Let’s see if he’s found before we need to start Part Four.
Actor Julian Sands Missing — Part Three
|by Anonymous||reply 391||March 25, 2023 8:31 AM|
I’ve never watched the movie Frozen.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||February 23, 2023 2:53 PM|
This is a nice remembrance of Julian by John Malkovich.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||February 23, 2023 3:00 PM|
I'd still like an answer:
[quote]How long until he's declared dead, so the family can have his stuff?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||February 23, 2023 4:25 PM|
He's in one of the cabins on Lake Piru. CHECK THE CABINS ON LAKE PIRU!!!!!!!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 4||February 23, 2023 4:35 PM|
Did he manage to push a small child to safety in a tree before disappearing?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||February 23, 2023 4:43 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 6||February 23, 2023 4:55 PM|
Thanks, r6, I guess we...er, I mean, they'll have to wait.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||February 23, 2023 5:04 PM|
Malkovich's new movie with Julian co-starring looks bonkers, but in a good way. If this hadn't happened to Julian, I'd have never heard of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||February 23, 2023 5:05 PM|
[quote]If this hadn't happened to Julian, I'd have never heard of it.
See? There's no such thing as bad publicity.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||February 23, 2023 5:07 PM|
Mount Baldy ski facilities temporarily closed because there’s too much snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||February 23, 2023 5:29 PM|
"He was so good looking in THE KILLING FIELDS and A ROOM WITH A VIEW". end of obituary
|by Anonymous||reply 11||February 23, 2023 5:37 PM|
R1 Let it go!
|by Anonymous||reply 12||February 23, 2023 5:39 PM|
He's probably drinking Caipirinhas in Brazil and laughing at us.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||February 23, 2023 5:50 PM|
R4 He could have fallen hundreds of feet down a slope into the valley and tumbled along a corridor right into the lake. Strangest things have happened. He could be dazed and disoriented and scared and hiding in one of the cabins right now. It's possible. I'm not saying likely, but possible
|by Anonymous||reply 14||February 23, 2023 5:58 PM|
R10 This is absolutely amazing that Baldy is getting so much snow. Mt. Baldy is so easy to get to from LA. And that’s going to cause a lot of trouble this weekend. People are going to read about all the snow and flock there for some skiing. The problem is that only a few of the runs on Baldy are suitable for beginners and the less-experienced. Baldy is a relatively steep mountain that requires more than basic skiing skills. The steepness is why so many hikers and climbers get into trouble there.
My brother and I live in LA and are currently in Mammoth. We made our reservations four months ago. We wanted to get in some really good skiing this winter. If we’d known about all this snow, we could have stayed in LA and have had just as good an experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||February 23, 2023 6:02 PM|
[quote] He could be dazed and disoriented and scared and hiding in one of the cabins right now. It's possible.
And surviving on what, honey? Berries?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||February 23, 2023 6:03 PM|
No, silly, other animals not as quick as him.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||February 23, 2023 6:47 PM|
From Part II:
[quote]They are Dataloungers trying to locate Julian's phone to retrieve his nude pics as Tarzan from the 80's. there are scores of them on Mt Baldy RIGHT NOW, most of them eldergays.
So I guess it’s true then. There are bears up there.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||February 23, 2023 6:47 PM|
[quote]He could be dazed and disoriented and scared and hiding in one of the cabins right now
I hope not. That doesn’t end well when the owners come home.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||February 23, 2023 6:48 PM|
Didn’t writer George Sand come to a similar demise herself?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||February 23, 2023 7:17 PM|
It was Spock's fault that he fell, [R577].
|by Anonymous||reply 21||February 23, 2023 8:16 PM|
[quote]And surviving on what, honey? Berries?
yes, and especially quagga mussels: Quagga mussels became established in Lake Piru and then downstream in the Lower Piru Creek in 2013. While this was the first discovery in Ventura County, they are an invasive species found in various rivers and lakes in the U.S. "
|by Anonymous||reply 22||February 23, 2023 8:23 PM|
Given the terrain and weather conditions he was in, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes years to find him, if they find him at all. He easily could have been eaten by wildlife at this point. I really liked him as an actor. He also was stunningly handsome in his youth. It's too bad. I can only hope this is some elaborate hoax and he's staged a disappearance, but by all logical conclusions, he's long gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||February 23, 2023 8:30 PM|
The body of Bob Gregory, the hiker who went missing the same weekend as Julian, was found 300 feet below the summit of the mountain he was hiking. The coroner’s report showed he died of ‘blunt force trauma.’ At least he didn’t have to suffer from the freezing weather while he slowly died. I hope Julian had a similar speedy end.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||February 23, 2023 8:32 PM|
Maybe Julian killed Bob and went on the run!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||February 23, 2023 8:36 PM|
Sadly, he is almost certainly deceased. It could be years before his remains are found. Assuming they're ever found. Shame.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||February 23, 2023 8:41 PM|
Forgot to mention, I'm actually surprised by the lack of media coverage.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||February 23, 2023 8:41 PM|
R2 I was just about to post the same.
A really lovely article.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||February 23, 2023 8:41 PM|
I’m surprised he and Malkovich were actual offscreen friends for so long. I like when there’s genuine Hollywood friendships and this seemed like one.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||February 23, 2023 8:55 PM|
[quote]Quagga mussels became established in Lake Piru
Where you should check the cabins. CHECK THE FUCKING CABINS.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||February 23, 2023 8:56 PM|
It’s possible his body won’t be found. There was heavy snow and an ice storm shortly after he went missing. His body could be preserved under ice. But with an eventual spring thaw, carrion eaters such as bears and coyotes could devour his body and scatter the bones. Gruesome thought! Mountain lions usually only eat fresh kill, so his body would be safe from them.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||February 23, 2023 9:00 PM|
R3 in California, a person can be declared presumed dead after five years.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||February 23, 2023 9:04 PM|
I don't mean to tell the county sheriff how to do their job, but did they search under the trees ? he could be under a tree, protected from the snow. Did they check the trees ?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||February 23, 2023 9:13 PM|
[quote] in California, a person can be declared presumed dead after five years.
But in Hollywood specifically, a person is declared dead after five flops.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||February 23, 2023 9:15 PM|
R34 If that’s the case, Julian has been dead for decades.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||February 23, 2023 9:19 PM|
[quote]but did they search under the trees ? he could be under a tree, protected from the snow. Did they check the trees ?
I want to know if they checked under the couch cushions. I’m always finding stuff there.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||February 23, 2023 10:09 PM|
Has James Ivory commented yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||February 23, 2023 10:21 PM|
R37. I don’t think Ivory has made a public comment, and I’ve been wondering about that.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||February 23, 2023 10:26 PM|
He should write a script about a formerly hot British actor who gets lost on while mountain climbing.
"The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill.....And Stayed There"
|by Anonymous||reply 39||February 23, 2023 10:52 PM|
R39 Could he include a sequence in which the Englishman meets a mountain-climbing twink and has a brief dalliance before continuing his hike? The twink could be played by Tack Sappington.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||February 23, 2023 11:09 PM|
With all the snow lately , they wont find him untill autumn if at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||February 23, 2023 11:11 PM|
R40 Here’s some info about the potential co-star, Tack Sappington. Went missing the same weekend as Julian.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||February 23, 2023 11:21 PM|
R40, r42 Maybe they could also include a part for Bob Gregory, the hiker who also went missing that weekend. Sappington could be spit-roasted by Gregory and Sands.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||February 23, 2023 11:26 PM|
The earliest anyone can hope to find him is high summer, and that's only if he was wearing brightly colored clothing. If the poor man was wearing fashionable gray, black, brown, or beige, he'll blend in with the rocky landscape.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's never found, or isn't found for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||February 23, 2023 11:59 PM|
I was just saying that today R44. I really don't think they'll ever find him.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||February 24, 2023 12:01 AM|
R44 reminds me of the Alfred Hitchcock Presents episode The Crystal Trench. Synopsis:
[quote] When Stella Ballister's husband dies in a mountain-climbing accident, he falls into a crevasse and is frozen within a glacier. Stella waits for the glacier to move so that she can see the frozen and perfectly preserved body of her husband. When it finally does so, she is shocked to discover that her husband's corpse is wearing a locket that contains a picture of another woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||February 24, 2023 12:09 AM|
R44 - looks like he was wearing dark colors.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||February 24, 2023 12:12 AM|
R47 Those photos were from him climbing the Alps, not Mt. Baldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||February 24, 2023 12:14 AM|
R46, I love that episode
|by Anonymous||reply 49||February 24, 2023 12:51 AM|
The Guardian interview with John Malkovich at R2 is a good read. Unlike all the fusspots going on about Sands' idiocy, JM has a sensible take on the situation.
And the clip from the Seneca movie wasn't bad. (But why is Julian in a clown costume with earrings?)
|by Anonymous||reply 50||February 24, 2023 5:03 AM|
R37 & R38, James Ivory is 94 -- almost 95. Perhaps he isn't in good health and can't comment right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||February 24, 2023 7:39 AM|
Lord, trying to make James Ivory the Susan Dey of this thread has gone over a few of your heads!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||February 24, 2023 1:31 PM|
I never knew that Julian and John Malkovich were such good friends. It would be fascinating to know more about their relationship. In particular, I’d love to have been able to eavesdrop on their conversations. Although they’re both very serious men, each seems to also have had a strong humorous streak. Julian’s death must be a real loss to Malkovich.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||February 24, 2023 3:23 PM|
Latest update on Mt. Baldy weather. It’s bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||February 24, 2023 4:15 PM|
R53 - he's missing not dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||February 24, 2023 7:18 PM|
R55, he’s dead, son. Accept it.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||February 24, 2023 7:32 PM|
He's cryogenically preserved! When the spring thaw comes, he'll wake up, fresh as a daisy,
|by Anonymous||reply 57||February 24, 2023 7:52 PM|
He'll wake up years from now, like Rip Van Winkle
|by Anonymous||reply 58||February 24, 2023 8:33 PM|
Will there be a "Missing, Presumed Dead" segment of the Oscars this year?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||February 24, 2023 8:51 PM|
Chris Rock would have made a joke about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||February 24, 2023 8:53 PM|
No maybe that is more Joan Rivers style.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||February 24, 2023 8:54 PM|
"Julian Sands - Warlock - Return to Mt. Baldy - can't wait to see it!"
|by Anonymous||reply 62||February 24, 2023 9:07 PM|
[quote]He'll wake up years from now, like Rip Van Winkle
The guy who played Fonzie?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||February 24, 2023 9:31 PM|
in 50 years, people will read about "the strange disappearance of actor Julian Sands" , ending with "his remains were never found."
|by Anonymous||reply 64||February 24, 2023 9:40 PM|
History’s Greatest Mysteries is already on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||February 24, 2023 9:41 PM|
In Search of ...
|by Anonymous||reply 66||February 24, 2023 9:44 PM|
Maybe it's just all a prank to promote his stupid movie with Malkovitch, like Joachim Phoenix did some years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||February 24, 2023 9:46 PM|
[quote]When the spring thaw comes, he'll wake up, fresh as a daisy,
one that's been picked a few days !
|by Anonymous||reply 68||February 24, 2023 10:47 PM|
John Malkovich has made a film that won’t be seen until November 18, 2115. The film has been placed in a vault that will automatically open on that date.
News reports at that time will probably report that the body of Malkovich’s friend, Julian Sands, had not yet been found, but the search is ongoing.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||February 24, 2023 10:52 PM|
is John Malkovitch now a chinaman ?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||February 24, 2023 10:54 PM|
Cue the tape.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||February 24, 2023 10:55 PM|
R69 Great idea!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||February 24, 2023 10:55 PM|
He’s the Michael Rockefeller of Hollywood!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||February 24, 2023 11:03 PM|
I'm not eating that.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||February 24, 2023 11:08 PM|
Even in his 60s, he looked sexy in the pics of him climbing in the Alps.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||February 25, 2023 5:24 AM|
He was delicious!
|by Anonymous||reply 76||February 25, 2023 6:00 AM|
His body will be found because hiking in that area will pickup due to curious and/or morbid people. Bragging rights for finding a dead celebrity and all that.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||February 25, 2023 7:31 AM|
[quote]Bragging rights for finding a dead celebrity and all that.
Is that a thing now?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||February 25, 2023 7:56 AM|
So, basically Julian is Schrodinger’s Mountain Climber right now, being neither dead, nor alive.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||February 25, 2023 9:23 AM|
R77 If Julian’s body is found by a hiker, it would be a hiker specifically looking for him. His body is likely at the bottom of Baldy Bowl, and there are no real hiking trails there. The sides of Baldy Bowl are volcanic rock, at a 45 to 50 degree angle. The easiest way to get there is to fall. Hiking down there is quite difficult. I’m afraid that the mountain’s new notoriety will cause more people to hike it, whether looking for Julian or not. More people are going to be put into danger. Mt. Baldy has a well-earned reputation for being one of the three deadliest peaks in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||February 25, 2023 2:39 PM|
The problem with Baldy is that it’s so easy to get to that a lot of the huge population of LA take it for granted and its familiarity makes it seem easily accessible. It even has something familiar to all Angelenos—a parking lot at its base.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||February 25, 2023 2:57 PM|
I’m having trouble getting around the paywall at the New York Times. They’ve got a fascinating-sounding new article called “Julian Sands, Mount Baldy, and the Joy of Dangerous Sports.”
Can any of you DLers copy the article and post it here?
|by Anonymous||reply 82||February 25, 2023 3:38 PM|
.By Rose George Ms. George is a British author whose books include “Nine Pints: A Journey Through the Money, Medicine, and Mysteries of Blood.”
On Friday, Jan. 13, the actor Julian Sands set off for a hike up Mount Baldy in California’s San Gabriel Mountains. He had done this kind of thing before: Mountain hiking was his passion. The 10,000-foot Mount Baldy is a difficult climb, but he had seen worse. In the Andes, he and three friends had reportedly been caught at 20,000 feet in a storm so violent, nearby climbers died. “We were lucky,” he later said. Mr. Sands didn’t make it down from Mount Baldy that day. The San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department began a ground search, but it has so far come up empty. Looking for missing hikers and climbers is very difficult under the best of conditions, and especially so in winter. Ferocious storms across the western United States have since made the prospects even bleaker. A friend of Mr. Sands’s recently described him as “an extremely advanced hiker” as well as “very, very fit.” Regardless, plenty of people will think this kind of expedition reckless. They will criticize those who set off in poor weather, in winter, knowing they could come to harm, for underestimating the risk. For going alone. For going anyway. I am used to people telling me my chosen hobby is risky, even “insane.” I’m not a mountain hiker, like Mr. Sands, but I, too, have devoted myself to a sport I enjoy despite — and to some degree because of — the danger.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||February 25, 2023 4:17 PM|
My love is fell running. “Fell” is an English term, from the Old Norse “fjall,” a mountain. In the north of England, and especially in Lakeland, the high, sometimes featureless hills are called fells, and the runners who like to run up and down and along them — and the hills of the Peak District and Yorkshire and elsewhere — are fell runners. There is no direct equivalent of fell running outside Britain. It’s not trail running, since there are few trails, and the terrain is boggier and both softer and tougher than a mountain runner would be used to. There will always be climbs, and there will always be descents that call to the inner child in me, to run down them as fast as I can.
My friends who do not fell run think I’m mad. I don’t agree. I think it is sane to pitch yourself among the wildest nature. I am 53 and having a sometimes difficult menopause: Running through high places on wild moorland is my quickest route to peace of mind. I defend myself against risk as best I can. I always carry a waterproof jacket and trousers, survival blankets, food and liquid, gloves, a hat, a compass and a whistle. But the most important defense is preparation. Many fell runners frown on GPS guidance, so you learn the route in advance, with a map and a compass. Critics think this policy is purist or old-fashioned, but the guideline is meant to increase the reliance on knowledge over luck, which can so easily fail. Once, I ran a race up the mighty Yorkshire hill of Ingleborough. It was an out-and-back route. You run up, and then back down the same way. But at the summit, there was thick fog. I strayed slightly off the footpath, looking for a better line over the rocks, and within minutes I could see nothing and hear no one. I was the worst kind of lost: Minutes from the manned checkpoint, minutes from the other runners, I didn’t know where I was or where I had to go.
The flanks of Ingleborough are punctured with potholes and caves, and I could easily fall down one by stepping the wrong way. Was I in danger? Possibly. It was too cold to wait for the fog to lift, and I had no signal with which to call Mountain Rescue. I chose to get off the hill as slowly and carefully as I could, then followed the sun when it appeared. I wasn’t lost anymore. I tell this story to fell runners to demonstrate how poor I often am at navigation, and to make them laugh: No one gets lost on an out-and-back. But it wasn’t funny, and I will probably always remember it and the speed with which the familiar changed to the bewildering, as fast as a breath. I’ve asked myself why — hypothetically — I should put pressure on rescuers for something that is a leisure activity. Because I know that in the hills your luck can turn as easily as a bird in the sky. I lessen my guilt by donating to my local branch of Mountain Rescue and by always stopping to help anyone who needs it. So still I set off into the hills or to the moors, even in poor weather. I do it because there is nothing like it. Mr. Sands once said, “a lot of time people who don’t climb mountains assume it is about this great heroic sprint for the summit. And somehow this great ego-driven ambition. But actually it’s the reverse. It’s about supplication and sacrifice and humility, when you go to these mountains.” I will not stop running in wild places because, probably like Mr. Sands, and probably like other missing hikers and runners, I have calculated the price of risk — the kind I cannot ward off no matter how prepared I am — against the reward of joy, and I think it worth paying.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||February 25, 2023 4:18 PM|
R83, r84 Thank you!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||February 25, 2023 4:28 PM|
[quote]The easiest way to get there is to fall.
I suspect that is true of any deep hole in the ground.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||February 25, 2023 4:32 PM|
How sweet of r83/r84.
You're a doll.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||February 25, 2023 8:31 PM|
R84 The writer says she has calculated the price of risk of dangerous activities against the reward of joy and thinks it’s a price worth paying. The problem is, other people also have to pay—the taxpayers who have to pay for the rescue services and the rescuers, who sometimes have to pay with their lives.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||February 25, 2023 9:02 PM|
R84 She does say that she donates to mountain rescue, and in this particular activity it's unlikely that rescuers would risk their lives, but that's absolutely the case with 'recreations' like base jumping and other dangerous sports.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||February 25, 2023 9:15 PM|
R89 Several rescuers have died in recent years on Mt. Baldy. The most recent was in 2019.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||February 25, 2023 9:25 PM|
R90 I was talking about fell running.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||February 25, 2023 9:38 PM|
R90 The man who was being searched for also died. His remains weren’t found until about six months later.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||February 25, 2023 9:47 PM|
Ir is my experience that the ones who bellyache most about paying taxes are the ones who have loopholes to avoid paying it. Most dogfaces get tax taken out of their wages without choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||February 25, 2023 10:10 PM|
R83 She really made that all about herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||February 25, 2023 10:49 PM|
R94 Yes, she really did make that all about herself. There was really no logical argument to support risky behavior, just platitudes about personal daring. I’m surprised The NY Times would print something so shallow.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||February 25, 2023 11:02 PM|
I disagree she was making it all about herself.
I do it because there is nothing like it. Mr. Sands once said, “a lot of time people who don’t climb mountains assume it is about this great heroic sprint for the summit. And somehow this great ego-driven ambition. But actually it’s the reverse. It’s about supplication and sacrifice and humility, when you go to these mountains.”
She knows Sands will get shit for killing himself on a mountain and she was offering her own experience to deflect some of the hate he will get. It seems to be working.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||February 25, 2023 11:07 PM|
R96 Oh blah blah blah. All these reckless fuckers should have to pay a bond that when they are lost the bond goes towards saving their stupid, self obsessed asses.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||February 25, 2023 11:14 PM|
R97 Blah blah blah fine with me. Write your congressman.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||February 25, 2023 11:17 PM|
Taking your chances hiking is fine so long as neither you or your family expect people to also risk their lives to go searching for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||February 25, 2023 11:22 PM|
R99 And yet, they do. See R90.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||February 25, 2023 11:44 PM|
I agree with some of the criticism of people who engage in risky adventures BUT ONLY IF THEY’RE INEXPERIENCED AND ARE NOT PROPERLY EQUIPPED. Julian can only be criticized for his plight for going hiking alone. However, it was only a week ago that two young hikers had to be rescued from the side of Mt. Baldy by helicopter. One person had fallen and the second person got into trouble when he tried to help. At least they had a cell phone and were able to call for help. From what I read, these two hikers were relatively inexperienced and weren’t properly equipped.
Julian did everything else that was correct. He told his wife where he’d be and what time he expected to return. When he didn’t return, she promptly called the San Bernardino sheriff, so no time was lost in looting for him.
From what I’ve read, Julian was very experienced, including having climbed Mt. Baldy numerous times.
I’m sure he was properly equipped with crampons, an ice axe and other ice tools, rope, climbing tape, and a backpack with emergency provisions. In the photo at r47, he’s shown wearing a proper climbing helmet. That’s something a lot of climbers are too macho to wear.
Julian seems to have been a responsible hiker/climber, so I don’t begrudge him the use of search services.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||February 26, 2023 1:44 PM|
R101 When one takes such a risky endeavor it should not be expected that people search for him should he go missing. So long as it is assumed that they are most likely dead and that there body will be searched for after the spring thaw at the cost of the hiker's family.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||February 26, 2023 8:40 PM|
R102 Indeed. And they should have to pay for any rescue or search. It was their choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||February 26, 2023 9:39 PM|
[quote]and that there body will be searched for
|by Anonymous||reply 104||February 26, 2023 9:40 PM|
Conditions on Mt. Baldy can be endlessly treacherous. Daytime temperatures can briefly rise and the snow will begin to melt. Then freezing sets in and the melted snow turns to ice. Ice is much more difficult and dangerous to hike on than snow, which will hamper any ground searches for Julian. Ice also melts much less quickly than snow, so the thawing period on Mt. Baldy will be extended. Everything is working against finding Julian’s body.
Years ago when I was into mountaineering, I heard a tale of a man who was hiking on Mt. Baldy in the early spring. A large slab of ice above him detached and almost completely decapitated him as it slid off the mountainside. Baldy is a really treacherous mountain.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||February 27, 2023 1:25 AM|
We used to post all the Ted C. blind items here
|by Anonymous||reply 106||February 27, 2023 2:35 AM|
Is NPH coming out?
|by Anonymous||reply 107||February 27, 2023 2:36 AM|
Did the SAG Awards include our Julian in their “In Memoriam” presentation?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||February 27, 2023 4:43 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 109||February 27, 2023 5:34 AM|
Not even a with a “death in abstentia” disclaimer?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||February 27, 2023 6:16 AM|
[quote]so no time was lost in looting for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||February 27, 2023 7:52 AM|
He must have been a selfish jerk to put his family to this.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||February 27, 2023 12:05 PM|
It's still snow and ice up there, is it?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||February 27, 2023 12:13 PM|
R113 Mount Baldy is “an icy death trap.”
|by Anonymous||reply 114||February 27, 2023 2:32 PM|
Couldn't he just slide down the mountain?
|by Anonymous||reply 115||February 27, 2023 2:34 PM|
R115 That’s what he probably did. He slid to his death.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||February 27, 2023 2:38 PM|
Julian “Avalanche” Sands they used to call him….
|by Anonymous||reply 117||February 27, 2023 3:17 PM|
It’s scary how steep Mt Baldy is and some of the trails appear to be very narrow. Are there deaths in the summer months?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||February 27, 2023 4:51 PM|
Thank you R114
What is it with these people with families? Do they not have enough adventure at home already?
[quote] One of the fatalities was Crystal Paula Gonzalez, an experienced hiker and mother of four, who was reported to have fallen at least 500 feet down an icy slope.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||February 27, 2023 4:55 PM|
She wasn't a regular mom, R119. She was a cool mom.
And then she was a frozen mom.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||February 27, 2023 5:09 PM|
he died screaming " BEAUTYYYYY"
|by Anonymous||reply 121||February 27, 2023 5:11 PM|
R120 Ain't that the truth!
|by Anonymous||reply 122||February 27, 2023 5:24 PM|
I like blue.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||February 27, 2023 5:41 PM|
R121 I did that line back in thread one, but I’ll allow because it’s a good one!
|by Anonymous||reply 124||February 27, 2023 6:01 PM|
I rather like to think that he really did, R121.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||February 27, 2023 6:40 PM|
This twat’ll be the talk of Mt Baldy all bloody season!
|by Anonymous||reply 126||February 27, 2023 6:42 PM|
While y’all are waiting for the body to be found, I’ve discovered the perfect book for DL to read in the interim!
|by Anonymous||reply 127||February 27, 2023 7:31 PM|
R124, it's not a theft, it's an hommage
|by Anonymous||reply 128||February 27, 2023 8:23 PM|
I’m surprised they didn’t mention his probable death at the SAG Awards. Let’s see if he gets a mention at this year’s Oscars ceremony.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||February 27, 2023 8:26 PM|
[quote]it's an hommage
It's a what, now?
That squiggly little line in your posts isn't to emphasize how great of a post it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||February 27, 2023 8:56 PM|
R129 - Maybe if Helena Bonham Carter or John Malkovich is a presenter, they might make a little statement.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||February 27, 2023 8:59 PM|
No, no, ladies.
You can't include him in the Oscar obits, only to find that he's faked his own death and is found 3 months later sipping Mimosas in Puerto Vallarta with his toyboy.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||February 27, 2023 9:20 PM|
[quote]R124, it's not a theft, it's an homage
It's not a comeback! It's a return!
|by Anonymous||reply 133||February 27, 2023 9:24 PM|
When asked what he wanted played at his funeral, Julian said he wanted Rufus Wainright’s version of “Get Happy.”
Great choice! Makes me like Julian even more.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||February 28, 2023 1:49 AM|
R134 Yes, he did!
|by Anonymous||reply 135||February 28, 2023 1:53 AM|
But does it count if he's not at his own funeral?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||February 28, 2023 2:12 AM|
Does it count if it's not Judy's version?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||February 28, 2023 2:14 AM|
[quote]When asked what he wanted played at his funeral, Julian said he wanted Rufus Wainright’s version of “Get Happy.”
Which, of course, is actually Rufus Wainwright's version of Judy Garland's version of "Get Happy."
What a gay old time that will be!
|by Anonymous||reply 138||February 28, 2023 2:22 AM|
Mount Baldy ought to be called Mount Deadly.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||February 28, 2023 2:00 PM|
They must NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, rename it "Mount Deadly"! It wouldn't discourage idiots from getting killed, the name change would actively draw every try-hard, douche, and Xtreme sports nutcase from around the world!
No, there's nothing to be done but charge anyone who needs rescuing a fortune for public services and volunteer searches - the local government can't even stop rescuing hikers because of legal issues, not to mention common decency. You can't not even try to rescue people, several lives have been saved already this year, But do something to discourage the idiots, since a front-page death hasn't done the job.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||March 1, 2023 12:41 AM|
R140 It obviously draws deluded nut cases already.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||March 1, 2023 12:44 AM|
Talking about British men aging badly...
Julian Sands was a gorgeous youth and hot as fuck when young man. Remember seeing him in "Warlock" and thinking phwoarrrrr!
|by Anonymous||reply 142||March 1, 2023 12:50 AM|
R142 Julian only looked good for a few years. When he was in his teens and twenties, his hair was a mess but that didn’t matter because there was so much of it. His hairline started receding at a very young age. A professional stylist could probably have done something with it, but Julian got no such help. He simply let his hair get long , which emphasized the bald areas. It also seems to have been cut unevenly, which made him look unkempt. You can tell he wasn’t gay by the lack of attention he gave to his hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||March 1, 2023 1:18 AM|
Poor guy. They're not finding him any time soon under these conditions. It's the first time in my lifetime that I've ever heard of "blizzard conditions" in Southern California forests into March.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||March 1, 2023 1:20 AM|
An unverified video on YouTube claims he is not dead and has been “found alive.”
|by Anonymous||reply 145||March 1, 2023 1:22 AM|
"What about me?"
|by Anonymous||reply 146||March 1, 2023 1:29 AM|
[quote]You can tell he wasn’t gay by the lack of attention he gave to his hair.
And this is no doubt what led to his death.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||March 1, 2023 1:41 AM|
[quote]An unverified video on YouTube claims he is not dead and has been “found alive.”
Where can I find that? With videos of Bigfoot sightings?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||March 1, 2023 1:43 AM|
A video shared on YouTube five days ago claims in the title that “missing Julian Sands” has been “found alive.” However, in the video, it has been claimed that he still remains missing.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||March 1, 2023 1:44 AM|
Perhaps Julian met a comely young member of the Baldy ski patrol. Love at first sight and all that. They could have been holed up at a motel in Victorville these past few weeks.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||March 1, 2023 1:55 AM|
[quote] holed up at a motel in Victorville
My idea of paradise!
|by Anonymous||reply 151||March 1, 2023 2:26 AM|
I loved his tortured composer schtick in Impromptu, opposite Bernadette Peters.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||March 1, 2023 5:19 AM|
That is MY film.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||March 1, 2023 5:44 AM|
Did Miss Bernadette Peters’ use the opportunity that her birthday was to call for more first responders to search the mountains to find him?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||March 1, 2023 6:25 AM|
[quote]Poor guy. They're not finding him any time soon under these conditions.
Will Julian become like Ötzi the Ice Man and be unearthed from the ice in several centuries from now?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||March 1, 2023 7:20 AM|
I don't care
|by Anonymous||reply 156||March 1, 2023 12:37 PM|
^ None of us does.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||March 1, 2023 12:38 PM|
The weather on Mount Baldy isn’t getting any better. More snow today.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||March 1, 2023 1:23 PM|
[quote] Will Julian become like Ötzi the Ice Man and be unearthed from the ice in several centuries from now?
You know damn well he's going to become the star of our yearly "Bodies of Mt Baldy" (like our "Bodies of Everest" annual threads--with frozen limbs in bright hiking clothes sticking out of the frost.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||March 1, 2023 2:11 PM|
[quote]Did Miss Bernadette Peters’ use the opportunity
|by Anonymous||reply 160||March 1, 2023 2:14 PM|
[quote]A video shared on YouTube five days ago claims in the title that “missing Julian Sands” has been “found alive.” However, in the video, it has been claimed that he still remains missing.
Stupid ass videos like that should be flagged.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||March 1, 2023 2:15 PM|
What could have possibly happened?
He should have been home by now.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||March 1, 2023 2:23 PM|
Julian looks an awful lot like a more gaunt version of Anders Behring Breivik.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||March 1, 2023 3:30 PM|
R163 Anders was good looking when he was young, but like a lot of Scandinavians, he turned into a boiled potato when he reached middle age.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||March 1, 2023 7:37 PM|
R164 If there is one prisoner in this world that deserves to be tortured to death it is him.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||March 1, 2023 11:37 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 166||March 2, 2023 2:53 PM|
Clearly a case of heatstroke.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||March 2, 2023 7:27 PM|
It was murrrrder!
|by Anonymous||reply 168||March 2, 2023 10:12 PM|
I know Julian’s eldest son came to LA within days of Julian going missing. He is also an experienced hiker and he was to have traced Julian’s steps accompanied by a San Bernardino official who was experienced with the terrain. I never heard anything about the outcome of that. I haven’t read anything about Julian’s two younger sons. I wonder where they are and how they’re handling all this. Julian’s wife, at least, made a public comment about a month ago thanking the people involved in the search effort. I guess this whole thing isn’t that interesting to most of the public.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||March 3, 2023 12:54 AM|
Henry Sands hasn't commented more since January.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||March 3, 2023 3:15 AM|
What comment is there to be made? "Well, he's clearly dead, hopefully we get to bury him sometime this year?"
|by Anonymous||reply 171||March 3, 2023 3:40 AM|
[quote]Henry Sands hasn't commented more since January.
Neither has Susan Dey.😶
|by Anonymous||reply 172||March 3, 2023 10:21 AM|
Heard on the news yesterday, that the search is halted for now - due to avalanche risks.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||March 3, 2023 10:28 AM|
Do they search for that long when a "normal" person disappear?
|by Anonymous||reply 174||March 3, 2023 10:31 AM|
Mount Baldy closed again due to avalanche risk.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||March 3, 2023 1:30 PM|
nobody knows how he died ? he just disappeared ? easy, the dinghy was probably banging against the hull, and he tried to tie it tighter, slipped and fell to his death
|by Anonymous||reply 176||March 3, 2023 8:54 PM|
This mountain opens and closes more than a whore’s legs.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||March 3, 2023 9:21 PM|
I read that in the nineteenth century, huge blocks of ice were harvested from Mt. Baldy during the warm months, taken by mule train to Los Angeles, and sold for cooling purposes. Julian’s body is probably well preserved under a slab of ice, waiting for his last public appearance.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||March 4, 2023 12:11 AM|
I went and checked every cabin on Lake Piru, TWICE. He's not there.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||March 4, 2023 1:18 AM|
R179 I TOLD you, he’s in a motel in Victorville.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||March 4, 2023 1:27 AM|
The My. Baldy ski slopes are open, but there’s also a “severe weather alert.”
|by Anonymous||reply 181||March 6, 2023 9:17 PM|
Why are we still talking about this pasty bitch?
He’s gone. GONE! May the wind scatter his bones.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||March 6, 2023 9:50 PM|
The bones are still frozen under snow and ice waiting for the spring thaw to roll about.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||March 6, 2023 9:54 PM|
Vultures could have dug them out, surely?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||March 6, 2023 9:59 PM|
Vultures aren't equipped to dig. And that takes too much energy anyway, they're not really into exertion.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||March 6, 2023 10:25 PM|
They’re fuckin’ layabout LEECHES!
|by Anonymous||reply 186||March 6, 2023 10:31 PM|
But we don’t know Miss Sands died in an avalanche. He could have fallen and hit his head, and the vultures swooped in immediately?
Or an eagle could have carried him off to a nest?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||March 6, 2023 10:35 PM|
A nest with a view.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||March 6, 2023 10:37 PM|
I'm over Mt Baldy, when does the Everest season begin?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||March 6, 2023 10:37 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 190||March 6, 2023 10:39 PM|
[quote]R188 A nest with a view.
Okay, this made me laugh!
[italic]Have they checked the nests around the lake ? !
|by Anonymous||reply 191||March 6, 2023 10:45 PM|
[quote] Have they checked the nests around the lake ? !
This isn’t Lord of the Rings.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||March 6, 2023 10:58 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 193||March 6, 2023 11:07 PM|
In California, the biggest carrion-eating bird is the condor. It was nearly extinct, but has been re-established in some areas, primarily in Southern California. The Los Angeles Zoo has a successful captive breeding program. These huge birds are beautiful in flight. If they’re feeding on Julian’s corpse, I think he would approve. Bon appetit!
|by Anonymous||reply 194||March 6, 2023 11:33 PM|
Could a condor have carried him off?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||March 6, 2023 11:34 PM|
It was the Wendigo!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 196||March 6, 2023 11:36 PM|
R195 It’s possible a condor could have carried him off. They’re huge, with a wingspan of 9.5 feet, or 3 meters.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||March 6, 2023 11:38 PM|
I ight now he’s being double teamed by a wendigo and Sasquatch
|by Anonymous||reply 198||March 7, 2023 12:09 AM|
Well, there’s our answer, then.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||March 7, 2023 12:17 AM|
Julian will be starring in a very different remake make of Three Days of the Condor depending on the number of days upon which he is finally found.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||March 7, 2023 2:01 AM|
The condor could be a movie buff who’s keeping him alive in its nest on grubs and worms. This could still have a happy ending!
|by Anonymous||reply 201||March 7, 2023 2:05 AM|
So the Condor is Misery, a super fan? Has the Condor broken his leg so he can’t escape?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||March 7, 2023 2:14 AM|
[quote[ the Condor is Misery
|by Anonymous||reply 203||March 7, 2023 2:28 AM|
R203 Are you saying Andrew Garfield should play the Condor Misery in the movie?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||March 7, 2023 2:32 AM|
That's no Andrew Garfield.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||March 7, 2023 2:40 AM|
R194 I want a sky burial :(
he's so lucky!
|by Anonymous||reply 206||March 7, 2023 2:50 AM|
R295 If not Andy, who?
|by Anonymous||reply 207||March 7, 2023 2:58 AM|
[quote] If not Andy, who?
Andy yes. Garfield no.
Murray aka Misery.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||March 7, 2023 3:21 AM|
I myself am sick of famous human actors taking roles away from animals who’ve paid their dues for YEARS in commercials, etc. Surely there’s an industry condor out there who can play the role. Isn’t there one in a current life insurance ad?
|by Anonymous||reply 209||March 7, 2023 3:21 AM|
R209 This is why I’m bothered by Andy Garfield coming in an stealing the role, another Brit playing a proud American Condor, unconscionable!
|by Anonymous||reply 210||March 7, 2023 4:10 AM|
A strange way to die
|by Anonymous||reply 211||March 7, 2023 5:06 AM|
Had to be posted.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||March 7, 2023 5:38 AM|
^^ more Species Appropriation.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||March 7, 2023 5:48 AM|
Max Irons played the lead role in the "Condor" series a couple years ago.
Showed off his nice ass:
|by Anonymous||reply 214||March 7, 2023 7:27 AM|
This commercial used ducks instead of condors. They’ve been shut out of the industry for too long.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||March 7, 2023 7:41 AM|
A dingo ate my Julian!
|by Anonymous||reply 216||March 7, 2023 10:22 AM|
R215 Duckwashing is no longer acceptable.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||March 7, 2023 1:45 PM|
Perhaps he fell down a rabbit hole and is hibernating in a cozy burrow with his new family of friendly woodland creatures.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||March 7, 2023 3:10 PM|
El Condor Pasa.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||March 7, 2023 5:44 PM|
I hope his frozen zombie comes stumbling into Los Angeles this spring looking for vengeance
|by Anonymous||reply 220||March 8, 2023 3:43 AM|
vengeance for what ? his lack of talent ?
|by Anonymous||reply 221||March 8, 2023 8:38 AM|
So I went hiking alone in the Arizona desert today, which some of you would consider a huge no-no. I didn't go far, I checked the weather and the cell phone reception, I carried a pole to help me stabilize on sand-covered rocks, I had water, hat, sunblock, map, etc.. But I did it, because I really, really, wanted to be out in the desert! Why be alive at all, if you aren't going to do what you love, even if it means risk? I mean I broke my leg hiking two years ago, I know things can go wrong, but dammit I'm going to do what I love, just take some reasonable precautions.
I mean I admire Sands's badassery, he'd climb the highest mountains, but climbing that mountain during the fiercest storm the region had had in decades was just stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||March 8, 2023 9:18 AM|
I understand what you’re saying about the joys of being in the wilderness. As I said upthread, as long as a hiker has the proper experience, gear, and lets someone know where they’ll be and time of return, I can’t be critical. Though it’s safer to hike with someone, that’s marginally less important.
People who criticize hikers for occasionally requiring public rescue services only have a point if inexperienced and improperly equipped persons require help. Our tax dollars go to many public services we’ll never use (or may not even approve of). Julian did all the right things and I don’t begrudge the search efforts for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||March 8, 2023 2:03 PM|
I disagree. If you are willing to take the risk to go hiking on your own, no searches should be made by anybody except your own family or friends willing to take that on themselves. No public resources should be used for your rescue.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||March 8, 2023 11:05 PM|
I thought he is assumed to have slipped in an area that was exposed to more rain than usual? Truly, an accident.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||March 9, 2023 12:40 AM|
Why do comments like R224 remind me of how the Bush administration delayed in helping people after Hurricane Katrina. They were told to evacuate and didn't so you will not be helped and deserve to die. There is something wrong with that kind of thinking.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||March 9, 2023 12:50 AM|
R225 It was snow and ice. Mount Baldy is notorious for its ice hazards. Julian probably slipped on an icy trail and tumbled 500 to 900 feet to his death.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||March 9, 2023 12:50 AM|
Things can happen to hikers through no fault of their own - they could be attacked by a bear, shot by some idiot hunter, trip on a log and break their leg...a million different scenarios. I think there should certainly be some initial search and rescue effort, but in Julian's case...it's been almost 2 months. Time to give it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||March 9, 2023 1:16 AM|
I think this is a recovery mission, the family wants a body to bury
|by Anonymous||reply 229||March 9, 2023 1:19 AM|
R229 Then let them pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||March 9, 2023 1:23 AM|
R226 Taking a hike on Mount Baldy during wintry stormy weather is no joke. It is being irresponsible and others shouldn't also risk themselves and spend public resources because of them. Mount Baldy which has some challenging and even treacherous trails. Comparing that to a natural disaster which the Bush Administration didn't take serious enough is a very poor analogy.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||March 9, 2023 1:35 AM|
Another thing about Baldy is since it’s the highest peak in the San Gabriel Mountains, it takes the full brunt of the wind. It’s always extremely windy there, and I’ve seen hikers blown off their feet by the wind. The storm that hit while Julian was on the mountain is said to have been accompanied by gale-force winds. Coupled with icy trails, Julian’s hike that weekend was almost an act of suicide.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||March 9, 2023 1:44 AM|
[quote] Another thing about Baldy is since it’s the highest peak in the San Gabriel Mountains, it takes the full brunt of the wind
I guess that’s why Sands looked so weathered the last couple of years.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||March 9, 2023 2:25 AM|
A condor could carry him off, but it would take 3 days.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||March 9, 2023 9:40 AM|
He's gone with the wind.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||March 9, 2023 11:20 AM|
[quote]Taking a hike on Mount Baldy during wintry stormy weather is no joke. It is being irresponsible and others shouldn't also risk themselves and spend public resources because of them.
The conditions were icier than anyone knew, and that was the problem. I've been looking at news articles and none of them say it stormed that morning. That Tack Sappington guy who was rescued the same day Sands disappeared said the problem was ice that had already built up in the area. There was also the older hiker who was rescued, Jin Chung, who had expected a short hike but got caught by the ice. Another hiker was interviewed saying that the conditions were so much worse than he'd been told.
Also the hiker found dead was an experienced hiker with years of hiking under his belt.
I just don't think everyone was being irresponsible, I think there was a lack of information about the conditions and people were caught off guard.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||March 9, 2023 11:51 AM|
R236 I’ve been reading about this since the day Julian went missing. Although there was a lot of snow and ice on Baldy, the day Julian went missing was not especially stormy, though hiking conditions were severe due to the snow and ice already on the ground .The storm was due to begin the next day. Julian’s wife called the local sheriff just before 7:30 pm on the day he was due to return. I remember being impressed that the sheriff started a ground search that same evening, even though the storm was beginning. A ground search was continued the next day in the thick of the storm.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||March 9, 2023 1:03 PM|
R236, r237 The website for Angeles National Forest for the period when Julian went missing indicated “extreme alpine conditions” on Mt. Baldy. You can’t get more dire than that. Julian was on a day hike, so his plan was to miss the worst of the oncoming storm, but conditions were already quite severe.
That Tack Sappington idiot was rescued even before the worst weather hit. He had no equipment and obviously hadn’t read up on current mountain conditions. You can’t get more irresponsible than that.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||March 9, 2023 1:30 PM|
Can't they close the access roads and parking lots when there is an extreme weather warning? Maybe it wouldn't deter every idiot, but you don't want to make it easy for them either.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||March 9, 2023 1:42 PM|
R239 They might soon require a permit to hike the mountain.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||March 9, 2023 2:13 PM|
[quote]They might soon require a permit to hike the mountain.
Are they going to deputize mountain goats to check permits?
|by Anonymous||reply 241||March 9, 2023 3:34 PM|
He didn’t go off to Jill himself, did he? How soon before we hear that there’s been sightings of him in South America?
|by Anonymous||reply 242||March 9, 2023 3:47 PM|
R242 I’ve wondered if this was a suicide.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||March 9, 2023 3:51 PM|
Hiking Mt Baldy is a little dicey even in the summer. I passed out briefly (MARY!) so I definitely wouldn't want to go if there was any amount of snow or ice on the trail.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||March 9, 2023 3:52 PM|
Julian and Jill walk up a bald hill…
|by Anonymous||reply 245||March 9, 2023 4:09 PM|
I’m 62 and have been hiking in Southern California since I was eight years old. I’ve reached the summit of Mt. Baldy many dozens of times, but only when the trail is dry. Anyone who has hiked in Southern California will be familiar with the combination of loose shale and sand which comprises most trails. Baldy is no different. After decades of hiking on this kind of unstable terrain, I know how to navigate a trail and maintain secure footing. People who aren’t used to this easily get into trouble. Much of the distance of the several trails to the Baldy summit are very narrow, with drops of hundreds of feet on either side. Also, many sections of the trail are not relatively flat, but are at an approximate angle of 45 degrees. Hiking in this kind of terrain is hazardous and requires both skill and vigilance. On top of all this, the winds on Baldy are ever-present and extremely strong. Every year, hikers are blown off their feet, sometimes to their deaths.
Mt. Baldy is known for its copious amounts of ice during the winter months. When ice is added to the other risks on the mountain, it is, to me, unconscionable to try to hike it.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||March 9, 2023 4:25 PM|
When Crystal Gonzales fell more than 500 feet to her death on Mount Baldy about a month ago, it was said that the strong winds were making hikers unsteady on their feet. In addition, large chunks of ice were rolling down the mountain, striking hikers on the trail. That entire mountain is bad news in the winter.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||March 9, 2023 6:58 PM|
California has been under drought conditions for years. People who hike were unprepared for the drastic change of weather conditions. I am guessing Sands and the others have hiked these trails for years with no issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||March 9, 2023 8:21 PM|
According to IMDb, Julian has six films yet to be released. That’s a lot, more than he’s had in any single prior year.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||March 9, 2023 8:22 PM|
A mother of four and very experienced hiker died after sliding more than 500 feet down Mount Baldy on Sunday, CBS Los Angeles reports.
Referred to as the "Hiking Queen" by her friends and family, Crystal Paula Gonzalez documented her most recent hike up the 10,000-foot mountain on Facebook. She detailed the dangerous conditions as an uncontrollable column of ice rolled downhill right past her.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||March 9, 2023 9:15 PM|
It seems as though hikers are dying on Mount Baldy or are needing to be rescued from it every other day.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||March 9, 2023 9:19 PM|
[quote] I’m 62 and have been hiking in Southern California since I was eight years old
Who else stopped reading at this point?
|by Anonymous||reply 252||March 9, 2023 9:22 PM|
R252 No one rang for you, heifer.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||March 9, 2023 9:26 PM|
R252 It got worse.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||March 9, 2023 9:29 PM|
"[R242] I’ve wondered if this was a suicide."
If a super-fit mountain-loving hiker wanted to commit suicide, I doubt they'd choose a place where falling to your death means hitting 200 million boulders on the way down, needing to bring rescue services out into storm conditions, or knowing your family would probably never find the remains. Better to go to Yosemite and let go while free-climbing El Capitan or Royal Arches, that way the final impact would be instantaneous and the bits would be easier to find.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||March 9, 2023 9:52 PM|
I googled what would happen to a dead body after 2 months. It isn’t pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||March 9, 2023 10:34 PM|
If a girl isn't pretty ...
|by Anonymous||reply 257||March 9, 2023 10:37 PM|
R256 But Julian’s body is likely frozen solid. It’s going to be quite a while before he defrosts and decomposition sets in.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||March 9, 2023 10:39 PM|
[quote]R247 it was said that the strong winds were making hikers unsteady on their feet. In addition, large chunks of ice were rolling down the mountain, striking hikers on the trail.
god I’d like to see that! Maybe as a reality show?
|by Anonymous||reply 259||March 9, 2023 10:43 PM|
A Mt. Baldy blooper reel? Make sure it's set to the opening music of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Benny Hill music would be too frenetic.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||March 9, 2023 10:56 PM|
This footage does not represent an experienced or responsible hiker.
She's taking a selfie in the dark. Her attire is skimpy enough to indicate the weather was warm and the trail was not covered with snow or ice.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||March 9, 2023 11:01 PM|
Who wears a full face of makeup for strenuous activities?
|by Anonymous||reply 262||March 9, 2023 11:25 PM|
R262 Hispanic women. They’re all hot tamales.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||March 9, 2023 11:26 PM|
Would t that be Shitty for your skin?
|by Anonymous||reply 264||March 9, 2023 11:35 PM|
[quote]r260 A Mt. Baldy blooper reel? Make sure it's set to the opening music of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Benny Hill music would be too frenetic.
You don’t mess with the classics!
Sliding on ice and Benny Hill music are a match made in Heaven : )
You KNOW this.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||March 9, 2023 11:35 PM|
Here’s the story of a woman who was nearly blown off Mt. Baldy by 60 mph winds. She had to abandon her hike because of the dangerous winds.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||March 9, 2023 11:36 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 267||March 9, 2023 11:42 PM|
I do suspect the wind was a factor. One theory of mine is that since the wind was probably from the west that day, the trail up to the high ridge was comparatively sheltered, and a hiker would not be prepared for the kind of winds that would be hitting the high ridge. Probably in gusts.
We'll never know exactly what happened, the odds of the body being found at all aren't great, considering the kind of rocky brushy terrain it probably feel into, and a corpse won't tell us exactly how it got there.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||March 9, 2023 11:48 PM|
R268 Hi- Your link doesn’t open to anything for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||March 10, 2023 1:32 AM|
R269, I have fixed R268's link:
|by Anonymous||reply 270||March 10, 2023 8:29 AM|
Didn't someone on a previous thread mention that he brings wine on his kikes? He was a tragedy waiting to happen!
|by Anonymous||reply 271||March 10, 2023 10:03 AM|
<- Oh that's not right, Jewish forced labor.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||March 10, 2023 10:23 AM|
R270 Thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||March 10, 2023 12:14 PM|
R271. Yes, Julian mentioned in an interview that he usually took wine with him when he hiked. Maybe he died happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||March 10, 2023 12:28 PM|
R270 There’s almost no snow in that photo, just a bit near the summit. Must have been taken in the summer. You get a really good idea how steep the sides of Baldy Bowl are. The trail is at the top, and it’s very narrow. Easy to see how someone could get into trouble. There would be no surviving a fall from that trail.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||March 10, 2023 12:34 PM|
[quote]Maybe he died happy.
I know I would! 🍷
|by Anonymous||reply 276||March 10, 2023 12:35 PM|
More freeze-thaw-freeze conditions today, so Baldy is making more ice to kill people with.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||March 10, 2023 12:47 PM|
Wet Slab Avalanche warning in effect for Mt. Baldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||March 10, 2023 9:53 PM|
I listen to EDM. EDM must be heard at elevated volumes. My iPhone buzzes when the earbud is blasting at a higher volume. Why not insert buzzers for people hiking in treacherous conditions?
|by Anonymous||reply 279||March 10, 2023 10:00 PM|
Julian leaving Mr. Chow restaurant in Beverly Hills. What a hassle having to deal with those autograph hounds and photographers. He finally gets into a car being driven by his wife and off they go.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||March 10, 2023 10:18 PM|
R280 I went to an event at the Hammer Museum in Los Angeles several years ago where Julian’s wife gave a reading of some of her work. I really can’t remember if Julian was there or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||March 10, 2023 10:22 PM|
[quote]R280 What a hassle having to deal with those autograph hounds and photographers.
The day the crowd disappears is the day a star dies inside.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||March 10, 2023 10:23 PM|
R28 - do you expect him to ignore his fans? They're life and death to him, baby. They're the ones who really made him.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||March 10, 2023 10:40 PM|
Maybe he got drunk and naked like those north English skanks in the winter
|by Anonymous||reply 284||March 10, 2023 11:14 PM|
Here’s an LA hiking guru who says DON’T HIKE IN THE SNOW. “Think of your own safety plus the safety of those who will risk their lives having to help you if you get into trouble.” This means you, Julian. Mt. Baldy’s specific dangers are mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||March 10, 2023 11:34 PM|
What I’m most looking forward to in tomorrow’s Oscars is whether Julian will be included in the In Memoriam segment.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||March 11, 2023 7:05 PM|
Will they have a "Still Missing" segment?
|by Anonymous||reply 287||March 11, 2023 7:12 PM|
All of Lake Tahoe at risk of 'widespread avalanche activity'
|by Anonymous||reply 288||March 11, 2023 7:14 PM|
I’m losing hope.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||March 11, 2023 7:22 PM|
[quote]What I’m most looking forward to in tomorrow’s Oscars is whether Julian will be included in the In Memoriam segment.
You're seriously wondering about that? No, he will not be included. He hasn't been declared dead. End of story.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||March 11, 2023 7:32 PM|
Someone pissed in r290's Wheaties this morning.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||March 11, 2023 7:40 PM|
[quote] Julian leaving Mr. Chow restaurant in Beverly Hills. a hassle having to deal with those autograph hounds
it's horrible, what an ordeal, just like "the killing fields" but worse; Also, what is a "restaurant" ?
|by Anonymous||reply 292||March 12, 2023 1:12 PM|
Is he dead yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 293||March 12, 2023 1:31 PM|
More freeze-thaw-freeze conditions for the rest of this week at a minimum. Mount Baldy is going to be nearly solid ice for the foreseeable future. It will be more of a death trap than usual. Good luck, Julian hunters!
|by Anonymous||reply 294||March 12, 2023 2:49 PM|
The clock is running out for him to be in the Memoriam section if he’s not found pronto, I hope they have an edit with him ready to go just in case. Perhaps it will be a breaking story during the telecast, a sweeping audience shot with all of them having their phones pinging at the same time! A shriek from the audience! Helena Bonham Carter’s collapse! Maggie Smith looking stoic with her stiff British upper lip! John Malkovich inconsolable, EMS guys giving him a sedative as he’s wheeled out on a gurney! This all could really bury that memory of the slap for sure!
|by Anonymous||reply 295||March 12, 2023 4:09 PM|
It would be great if they announced a surprise guest star to introduce the In Memoriam tribute…..and out walks Julian.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||March 12, 2023 4:20 PM|
Was he in any of the leprechaun movies?
|by Anonymous||reply 297||March 12, 2023 8:16 PM|
R297! I don’t know if he was in any Leprechaun movies, but based on what we saw in A Room With a View, he’s hung like a leprechaun.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||March 12, 2023 8:23 PM|
R296 - that would be in bad taste - even by Hollywood standards.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||March 12, 2023 10:28 PM|
He's going to run down the aisle and slap Jada Pinkett.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||March 12, 2023 11:26 PM|
Was Julian mentioned in the Oscars ceremony? I had the show on but didn’t really pay a lot of attention to it, so I may have missed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||March 13, 2023 3:35 AM|
R301 No, it did not.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||March 13, 2023 5:40 AM|
Is he likely to have been consumed by animals at this stage?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||March 13, 2023 8:05 AM|
He's likely to be under several feet of snow and frozen solid at this point, R303, so no. The animals will have to wait until he's freeze-dried.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||March 13, 2023 8:09 AM|
I see. Thanks, r304.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||March 13, 2023 8:27 AM|
I feel like anyone who calls herself "Hiking Queen" deserves a bit of a comeuppance.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||March 13, 2023 9:26 AM|
Did anyone at the Oscars make a plea for more search parties to look for Julian? Perhaps a human chain of actors to traverse the Mount after a lavish brunch the next day?
|by Anonymous||reply 307||March 13, 2023 9:39 AM|
Have the GLEE fans tweeted anything?
|by Anonymous||reply 308||March 13, 2023 9:44 AM|
I'm surprised that Helena Bonham Carter, Maggie Smith, Daniel Day Lewis and his other 'Room With A View' co-stars haven't said anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||March 13, 2023 9:51 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 310||March 13, 2023 10:32 AM|
R308 No, but there’s been much mention in this thread about checking the cabins for him!
|by Anonymous||reply 311||March 13, 2023 12:15 PM|
Not only Julian was not mentioned, Anne Heche wasn’t mentioned, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||March 13, 2023 2:31 PM|
How’s about AnnE, was she mentioned at all?
|by Anonymous||reply 313||March 13, 2023 2:32 PM|
It's pronounced Hoo-lian!
|by Anonymous||reply 314||March 13, 2023 2:35 PM|
Si si, Hoo-lian! Ay, pobrecito!
|by Anonymous||reply 315||March 15, 2023 7:06 PM|
Actor Donal Logue posted a tribute to Julian on Facebook today.
"Julian Sands went missing over two months ago while climbing Mount Baldy in stormy conditions. Every time I look to the east, to the snow capped San Gabriel mountains, I think Julian is up there. Somewhere.
I knew him like millions around the world did, through his work, but I also knew Julian from work. We did two gigs together-- Wim Wenders "The Million Dollar Hotel" and "Gotham." Meeting Julian was like meeting a rock star. After "A Room With a View" and "The Killing Fields," he was a bonafide superstar. Beautiful, intelligent, passionate, a little dangerous, he had so many qualities rolled into one it was almost unfair. But Julian's greatest quality (I was to discover) was his kindness and gentle nature. On all-night shoots, Julian was the guy I paired off with for lunch breaks at one in the morning. We instantly fell in step and talked life, family. He was funny. He was incredibly humble. He was proof (to steal a phrase from Tim Minear) that "God does indeed give with both hands."
I stepped outside today and felt the warmth of spring approaching and thought, Soon, Julian will be found and be with his family."
|by Anonymous||reply 316||March 18, 2023 9:37 PM|
[quote]Every time I look to the east, to the snow capped San Gabriel mountains, I think Julian is up there. Somewhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||March 18, 2023 10:26 PM|
I enjoyed him in Boxing Helena
|by Anonymous||reply 318||March 19, 2023 1:02 AM|
R316 "Soon, Julian will be found and be with his family.""
Um, in what capacity?
|by Anonymous||reply 319||March 19, 2023 1:31 AM|
We instantly fell in step
You mean like chorus boys?
|by Anonymous||reply 320||March 19, 2023 1:39 AM|
[quote]R316 "Soon, Julian will be found and be with his family.""
[quote]Um, in what capacity?
Did you miss the part about the arrival of spring? He meant that his body will be found once the snow melts and his family can bury him. Must everything be spelled out for you?
|by Anonymous||reply 321||March 19, 2023 1:53 AM|
Mount Baldy is notorious for its ice. Constantly fluctuating temperature causes its snow to briefly melt and then refreeze as ice. That prolongs the melting period, so spring is delayed on the mountain. Julian went missing relatively early in the winter cycle, so he’s probably under tons of ice. If he’s ever found, it will probably be in the summer or later.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||March 19, 2023 2:41 PM|
R309: there is such a thing as mourning privately.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||March 19, 2023 2:46 PM|
More snow is predicted for this area. An usual amount of precipitation all season long that makes recovery unfeasible.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||March 19, 2023 3:05 PM|
Will he be well preserved?
|by Anonymous||reply 325||March 19, 2023 3:08 PM|
Won’t his skin turn black and rot? I guess his bones will be r325 but weather and animals might scatter them.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||March 19, 2023 8:00 PM|
There are bears and coyotes in the area that could feed on his carcass and that would likely scatter his bones. Hopefully his body will be found before that could happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||March 19, 2023 8:04 PM|
[quote]Will he be well preserved?
Yes, in olive oil, a little bit of vinegar and salt! Yummo!
|by Anonymous||reply 328||March 19, 2023 9:54 PM|
I suspect his remains will be someday found in a ravine. A mountain gulch that he fell into, and out of sight. If he lived through that, it was likely with broken bones or a spinal injury where he couldn’t get out of the ravine. What a shame he didn’t have proper emergency equipment, like a beacon. All that technology available, and hikers/skiers will dump big $ on name brand apparel/gear instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||March 20, 2023 12:14 PM|
Would all of this been resolved the first weekend if he’d just worn an Apple Watch?
|by Anonymous||reply 330||March 20, 2023 2:17 PM|
R330 it could’ve been resolved before that if he hadn’t been a stupid selfish asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||March 20, 2023 2:30 PM|
We’ve had this discussion previously as to whether Julian was irresponsible or not in hiking alone in adverse weather. We really don’t know what kind of equipment he had with him.
First, I’m an experienced hiker and just a few years younger than him. I’d fault him for going alone, but it’s possible that having a hiking partner wouldn’t have helped. It was only a few weeks ago that two relatively young hikers had to be rescued from a ledge on Mt. Baldy by helicopter. One hiker had fallen onto a ledge and his partner tried to help but also fell into the ledge. They were able to summon help with their cellphone. Julian had his cellphone with him but never tried to call for help. It’s likely that he was completely incapacitated by a fall or simply died in a fall.
Searchers used a Recco device with no luck. This can detect a credit card or other security strip. It’s possible Julian left his wallet and cards in his car. Some hikers do that.
He apparently didn’t have a personal locator beacon. I can remember when these became generally available, and I never acquired one until recently. Julian is from a generation that didn’t rely on these devices. It’s too bad, but sometimes we old-timers don’t keep up with the latest technology.
The only thing I would really fault him for is hiking in winter weather. I’m a very experienced hiker who also went on rigorous climbs when I was younger. But I had taken mountaineering classes and was well-trained. Even so, my skills were limited to dry conditions. Hiking and climbing in snow and ice is very risky and requires a load of specialized skills that I don’t have. With all my experience, I can’t handle ice. I was in Mammoth a little over a month ago and fell flat on my ass the first day when attempting to walk on an icy surface. Fortunately, I wasn’t on a mountain trail. I was just attempting to walk across a restaurant parking lot. If Julian had slipped on ice on just about any Baldy trail, it’s likely he fell to his death. His body is probably at the bottom of Baldy Bowl, encased in ice.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||March 20, 2023 5:28 PM|
For his family's sake, I hope his bones will be found sooner rather than later.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||March 20, 2023 5:36 PM|
To make bone broth?
|by Anonymous||reply 334||March 20, 2023 5:38 PM|
[quote]We really don’t know what kind of equipment he had with him.
Didn't we see it in a movie once?
|by Anonymous||reply 335||March 20, 2023 5:43 PM|
Didn’t they get pings from his cellphone in the first day or two? And later I think it had run out of power. One guy sure has caused a lot of trouble. He’s also given us a lot to talk about.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||March 20, 2023 9:48 PM|
Are you saying Sands pinged?
|by Anonymous||reply 337||March 20, 2023 9:53 PM|
I read that Sands first climbed Mount Baldy several decades ago when he first visited LA. He often climbed it whenever he visited. Once he moved to LA permanently, it was his favourite place to spend his time. He must have known the trails well. John Malkovich was probably right that something drastic and irreversible happened. It’s too bad he had to go out this way.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||March 20, 2023 10:24 PM|
More heavy snow forecast for Mt. Baldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||March 20, 2023 10:47 PM|
I’ve actually got a couple of friends who are heading out to Baldy for some skiing soon. There’s still plenty of snow, and more is on the way. I hike on Baldy in the summer and fall, but I haven’t skied the mountain in several years. It’s too close to LA, so it can attract a crowd. As with hikers, its proximity to LA makes it seem familiar and friendly to skiers, and there’s a tendency to underestimate its challenges. Just as the mountain can be treacherous to hikers, it can also be treacherous to skiers. Only about 20% of the slopes are suitable for skiers of average ability. The majority of the slopes are more suitable to advanced or expert skiers. Some of the upper slopes actually border steep cliffs and skiers have to know the terrain really well to safely ski there. It’s a little surprising that not as many skiers as hikers get into trouble there.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||March 20, 2023 11:10 PM|
"The only thing I would really fault him for is hiking in winter weather. "
Agreed. I keep posting about hiking alone, which is something I do all the time, but I know my limits and have common sense! I do go hiking alone, but I don't go hiking with a metal walking stick in thunderstorms. and face it, hiking Mt. Baldy while the worst storms to hit SoCal in decades are going on was about that sensible.
He wasn't a native, he didn't spend all his time in the region, I don't think he had any idea what kind of conditions he'd be facing high on the trail.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||March 20, 2023 11:24 PM|
R341 It’s true Julian wasn’t a native, but he’d lived in LA for the past four years or so. I’d think he’d be familiar with the weather, but it’s true that this year’s winter is/was unusual. But he’d obviously have had access to the current weather report. Since most of Los Angeles has such relatively mild weather year round, he probably just underestimated how extreme the weather can be at a higher elevation. He seems to have been very well liked by people. His likely death is a real tragedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||March 21, 2023 3:20 PM|
There is indeed such a thing as mourning privately, for example his wife and children might not want to share their feelings with the world. They are his loved ones, it's only natural. When my dad died, I didn't want to talk about my feelings, I was too busy crying my eyes out But Helena et al, come one! They could have said something nice, honor him in that way.
Julian Sands Is/was an amazing actor. I don't know much about him but I have seen his movies and I know he loved poetry (Pinter, Keats etc). Some people say he was a bad actor. Obviously such people have not seen his movies or heard him read poetry.
I hope he is happy on top of the world, on a heavenly mountain, drinking great wine, communing with goddesses and gods.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||March 21, 2023 10:12 PM|
AND THERE’S STILL MORE SNOW COMING DOWN!
|by Anonymous||reply 344||March 22, 2023 1:09 AM|
R344- It will probably be a long time until they find him, if ever. I sympathize with his family. It has to be very difficult to not know where his remains are.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||March 22, 2023 1:14 AM|
R340 You’re right about Mount Baldy being a challenging ski venue. Some of the slopes are incredibly steep and only the most experienced skiers can handle them. I avoid the worst bits, but even the rest of the mountain is pretty challenging to ski. It’s good that snowboarders are confined to the lowest slopes where people with only average skills ski. It’s weird to think of people having fun and thrills skiing while Julian Sands’ body is somewhere under the snowpack.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||March 22, 2023 1:32 AM|
I went to Pomona College, which is at the foot of Mt. Baldy. We used to go up there to play in the snow (not that there was ever very much of it).
One of my professors died in a rockslide on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||March 22, 2023 4:40 AM|
Mount Baldy? Mount Nasty!
|by Anonymous||reply 348||March 22, 2023 7:35 AM|
It makes complete sense to me that most of his celebrity friends/colleagues are remaining quiet until the body is found.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||March 22, 2023 8:54 AM|
R349 They’re all frozen with fear!
|by Anonymous||reply 350||March 22, 2023 10:29 AM|
R347 One of your professors died in a rockslide on Mount Baldy? Is no one safe at any time on that mountain? It ought to be called Mount Death. L
|by Anonymous||reply 351||March 22, 2023 2:33 PM|
That name would be a lot less triggering for me, personally, r351.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||March 22, 2023 2:38 PM|
Nineteen inches of fresh snow on Baldy today. Freeze-thaw still going on, so lots of new ice to make everything difficult.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||March 22, 2023 2:44 PM|
Skiing in Southern California THROUGH THE END OF JULY!!! Maybe even longer! This is an incredible year. Too bad Julian isn’t around to enjoy it.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||March 22, 2023 3:10 PM|
Where do the animals go at times like these?
|by Anonymous||reply 355||March 22, 2023 3:21 PM|
To Florida, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||March 22, 2023 3:24 PM|
[quote]Where do the animals go at times like these?
|by Anonymous||reply 357||March 22, 2023 3:24 PM|
R355 Animals just go to lower elevations or hibernate in the winter. For those that typically hibernate, I’m not sure if hibernation for such an extended period is possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||March 22, 2023 3:25 PM|
Maybe Julian is hibernating.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||March 22, 2023 3:26 PM|
R356, R357 Why go all the way to Florida? Palm Springs is much closer and gay-friendly, too
|by Anonymous||reply 360||March 22, 2023 3:27 PM|
So, any news?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||March 22, 2023 3:33 PM|
[quote]For those that typically hibernate, I’m not sure if hibernation for such an extended period is possible.
I suppose if they were really tired and stayed up late the night before it would be.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||March 22, 2023 3:41 PM|
What’s a safer mountain to climb in the LA area?
|by Anonymous||reply 363||March 22, 2023 4:37 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 364||March 22, 2023 4:43 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 365||March 22, 2023 4:52 PM|
More than 800 inches of snow at Mammoth Mountain. I wonder how deep Julian is on Mount Baldy?
|by Anonymous||reply 366||March 22, 2023 8:25 PM|
He is in me quite deeply.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||March 22, 2023 8:31 PM|
Nothing good will come of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||March 22, 2023 8:33 PM|
Mt. Baldy is an insatiable bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 369||March 22, 2023 9:07 PM|
Julian’s movie, Seneca - On the Creation of Earthquakes, opens tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||March 22, 2023 9:34 PM|
I’m curious to read the reviews of “Seneca.” I’m wondering if the reviewers will be kinder than usual to Julian because of what’s happened to him. In the past, his acting hasn’t gotten very good reviews.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||March 22, 2023 9:45 PM|
The Hollywood Reporter -
An impressive supporting cast, which includes Mary-Louise Parker, Julian Sands, Geraldine Chaplin and Alexander Fehling. Chaplin has a lively confrontation scene with Seneca, but most of the others have truncated roles that allow them to do little but rant and then depart.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||March 22, 2023 11:08 PM|
R372 Uh oh.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||March 22, 2023 11:12 PM|
It's not as though Julian will be reading the reviews, R373.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||March 23, 2023 2:06 AM|
R363, Mount Wilson is safe, and on top is the old observatory that you can check out. It's a loooong climb though if you're starting at the LA Basin.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||March 23, 2023 2:28 AM|
A experienced friend of mine hiked Mt. Baldy one June. He said doing it in bad weather is having a death wish.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||March 23, 2023 2:31 AM|
R376 I wouldn't necessarily call it a death wish, but it is having unrealistic expectations that your experience will always be manageable and survivable.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||March 23, 2023 2:34 AM|
R375 Agree. LA’s charming old Mount Wilson Observatory, which dates from 1904, is a great end to a hike on Mount Wilson.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||March 23, 2023 2:47 AM|
R376 If not a death wish, then hiking on Mt. Baldy’s narrow, precipitous trails while being buffeted by gale-force winds would at least require a nonchalant acceptance of the possibility of death.
|by Anonymous||reply 379||March 23, 2023 2:54 AM|
He knew the weather was shit, and still chose to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||March 23, 2023 3:11 AM|
"Yeah, I can do this!"
|by Anonymous||reply 381||March 23, 2023 11:12 AM|
Here is a brief but very nice little piece about Julian from Australia.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||March 23, 2023 2:50 PM|
Complete review of “Seneca” from the Hollywood Reporter. It’s called “a lame historical lampoon.” Oh, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||March 23, 2023 6:20 PM|
R363 The Valley of the Dolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 384||March 23, 2023 6:39 PM|
R384 Actually, it sounds like Seneca- On The Creation of Earthquakes might rival The Valley of the Dolls in profundity.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||March 23, 2023 7:59 PM|
Deadline review. No special mention of Julian among the gaggle of idle rich but "As a film Seneca is almost unendurable...Malkovich truly delivers on the character’s pomposity, but for an actor to be so unbearable that the entire audience is willing him to take a double dose of hemlock is something of an own goal."
|by Anonymous||reply 386||March 24, 2023 4:15 AM|
George Sands never has these problems, but would probably be arrested in Tennessee nowadays.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||March 24, 2023 7:32 AM|
I’ve read several reviews of “Seneca” but not a single one mentions Julian. That’s consistent, though, with his film career. He was not a memorable actor, he was merely likable. In the film that is constantly mentioned when writing about him, A Room With A View, he was very undistinguished. I haven’t seen that film in many years, and I can recall numerous stand-out scenes and performances, but I have absolutely no lasting impression of Julian Sands.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||March 24, 2023 2:10 PM|
One thing the reviews I've read don't comment on is Geraldine Chaplin's ravaged face.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||March 25, 2023 3:35 AM|
R388, Julian Sands made a lasting impression on the gays as a result of this scene:
|by Anonymous||reply 390||March 25, 2023 6:47 AM|
I was watching the credits of a movie and the trailers for the set were provided by Vroom with a View. Clever.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||March 25, 2023 8:31 AM|