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Streisand's memoir "My Name Is Barbra" to be released November 7 - pre-order available

The long-awaited Streisand memoir now has a title and a release date ! The book will be available November 7, 2023 and the title is 'My Name Is Barbra'. It's 1040 pages, and has a retail price of $45 (currently). Available for pre-order at Amazon, and other book sellers. (Available in Kindle, too).

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by Anonymousreply 555November 8, 2023 9:30 PM

How many have pre-ordered this morning ?????

by Anonymousreply 1February 7, 2023 2:34 PM

1040 pages? Wasn’t there an editor?

by Anonymousreply 2February 7, 2023 2:53 PM

That’s the first thing I thought too, r2. But to be fair, what a life she’s led.

by Anonymousreply 3February 7, 2023 2:54 PM

I cannot imagine a narrator less reliable than Barbra Streisand. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 4February 7, 2023 3:05 PM

She will out-crazy Mariah in every imaginable way.

by Anonymousreply 5February 7, 2023 3:15 PM

I hope instead of chapters it is organized by grievance

by Anonymousreply 6February 7, 2023 3:20 PM

At least 500 pages will be ruminating on how her mother didn't let her eat ice cream because she was too fat.

by Anonymousreply 7February 7, 2023 3:20 PM

R2 It was first proposed that she would split it into 2 volumes. I guess they decided to keep it as one volume. She has a lot to cover in her 81 years. I hope she doesn't dwell on the 'hot water bottle doll' her mom had to make for her because they were too poor to own a real doll. And she can skip over the 'I was too ugly for my step father to buy me ice cream' stories.

by Anonymousreply 8February 7, 2023 3:22 PM

Speculation has been that she will be releasing (finally) her 12-disc DVD set, or maybe her back catalog remastered with bonus tracks on each album. It may be a big year for Streisand fans.

by Anonymousreply 9February 7, 2023 3:24 PM

Oh, it was the stepdad who didn't let her eat ice cream. Anyway, my favorite tidbit about her life is that she and Bobby Fischer were classmates at Erasmus and she had a big crush on him. When asked about Babs later in life, Bobby said he vaguely remembered a mousy girl who sat with him at lunch.

by Anonymousreply 10February 7, 2023 3:25 PM

[quote] Speculation has been that she will be releasing (finally) her 12-disc DVD set

What’s on the 12 discs?

by Anonymousreply 11February 7, 2023 3:29 PM

Does anyone recall when it was first mentioned that she was working on her memoir? Hasn’t this been in the works forever?

by Anonymousreply 12February 7, 2023 3:30 PM

Don't count on that, R8, and there will be more about who did and what was done to poor little Barbra. She'll also spend hundreds of pages defending her diva behavior.

by Anonymousreply 13February 7, 2023 3:33 PM

I heard that the chapters are going to be named the same as each book in the Bible. The Book of Revelation should be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 14February 7, 2023 3:33 PM

Lies, lies, lies!!!!

by Anonymousreply 15February 7, 2023 3:33 PM

Will she be selling it in her shopping mall?

by Anonymousreply 16February 7, 2023 3:37 PM

That's because she said she didn't remember a lot and had to ask other people, R12. Elliott Gould said she asked him why they broke up. He said it was because they became "her" instead of "us," like a housewife would couldn't handle her husbands high pressure time consuming career that brought home the big bacon $. Home desperate to be an object of heterosexual desire Barbra didn't buy it.

[quote]she and Bobby Fischer were classmates at Erasmus and she had a big crush on him

Again, every mention of a male has to include her desire for him.

by Anonymousreply 17February 7, 2023 3:38 PM

It should be in three volumes

The fellowship of the me

The two titties

The return of the me

by Anonymousreply 18February 7, 2023 3:39 PM

[quote]Again, every mention of a male has to include her desire for him.

Let's hope not.

by Anonymousreply 19February 7, 2023 3:45 PM

Will she offer explicit details on the men she has fucked?

Elliott, Sydney, Omar, Ryan, Kris, Don, Jon, Andre, Anthony and of course, Jim.

by Anonymousreply 20February 7, 2023 3:55 PM

Is it true that Beanie Feldstein has secured the movie rights?

by Anonymousreply 21February 7, 2023 4:03 PM

In a side by side comparison which book would say 𝑰 the more often. Bab's book or Obama's.

by Anonymousreply 22February 7, 2023 4:06 PM

[quote]Again, every mention of a male has to include her desire for him

Again, every mention of a male has to include his desire for her.

by Anonymousreply 23February 7, 2023 4:07 PM

I won’t have to sign an affidavit saying I agree to watch Yentl again in order to buy the book, will I?

Once was enough.

by Anonymousreply 24February 7, 2023 4:17 PM

R20 Will it include Verifcatia of sizemeat?

by Anonymousreply 25February 7, 2023 4:17 PM

who?

by Anonymousreply 26February 7, 2023 4:18 PM

It’ll be like buttah!

by Anonymousreply 27February 7, 2023 4:19 PM

[quote]Bab's book or Obama's.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 28February 7, 2023 4:19 PM

She’s had some real hotties but some of her choices in men are just bizarre. Baskin Robbins owner???

by Anonymousreply 29February 7, 2023 4:20 PM

Will there be a chapter on when she found out Jason was a feygele? Then another when she found out he was POZ? Or just one chapter?

by Anonymousreply 30February 7, 2023 5:26 PM

R29 she loved his coffee ice cream

by Anonymousreply 31February 7, 2023 5:29 PM

R11 - The 12 DVD set was first proposed in 1991, following the 4-CD set. It was to include all her television appearances, from the Jack Paar Show to the Barbara Walters interviews. (It was not going to include her movies or TV specials). Fans have been waiting for 30+ years; every now and then her camp says it will be released soon.

R12 - She first announced this around 2012.

R21 - Lea Michele has secured the movie rights, not Beanie.

by Anonymousreply 32February 7, 2023 5:37 PM

My proposed title was “It’s Barbra”.

Close.

by Anonymousreply 33February 7, 2023 5:43 PM

It's 1040 pages!!!!! Do we know if she'll be reading the audio book.

DLers: block off November 2023. This will take up all our time/discussion.

by Anonymousreply 34February 7, 2023 5:54 PM

Will she tell when she noticed decline of her voice?

by Anonymousreply 35February 7, 2023 5:59 PM

Will it be for sale at her mall?

by Anonymousreply 36February 7, 2023 6:03 PM

R35 2001

by Anonymousreply 37February 7, 2023 6:05 PM

Will there be lots of photos of her preferred profile?

by Anonymousreply 38February 7, 2023 6:26 PM

So who won the name titie from that DL thread guessing what she would name her book?

by Anonymousreply 39February 7, 2023 6:27 PM

In all honesty I really do hope she delves deep into the details of her early career beginnings in Greenwich clubs and off-Broadway. I'd love to hear her take on those experiences and her remembrances of working with Phyllis Diller, Joan Rivers and others. And how she developed her look and early kooky persona. How she chose her songs and clothes, etc.

And, of course, a chapter on her famous appearance on the Judy Garland Show with thoughts on Ethel Merman.

by Anonymousreply 40February 7, 2023 6:30 PM

Bill Clinton's autobiography ("My Life") was 1,008 pages. Makes sense that Babs' book is 1,040 pages.

Can you imagine Babs taking advice from an editor or ghost writer? No, Babs does not take advice.

Too bad Reader's Digest no longer releases condensed versions of books.

by Anonymousreply 41February 7, 2023 6:38 PM

Yes, 1,000+ pages is almost twice what Jane Fonda and Barbara Walters churned out in their hefty memoirs.

Honestly, I'm amazed this is actually happening. I really thought it would be another phantom project, like "Gypsy" and the Catherine the Great movie, that would never see the light of day...

by Anonymousreply 42February 7, 2023 6:40 PM

Wasn't Walters' memoir close to 1,000 ? It was well-written and worth every page.

by Anonymousreply 43February 7, 2023 6:42 PM

Walters' autobio was 628 pages.

by Anonymousreply 44February 7, 2023 6:46 PM

Actually this might bring back the old DL for a solid month. I'm excited. I envision numerous 600 post threads that are just excerpts from the book.

by Anonymousreply 45February 7, 2023 7:03 PM

R36 meet R16

by Anonymousreply 46February 7, 2023 7:09 PM

I hope she rips that thieving gypsy Lainie Kazan to shreds.

Also curious to see what she says about Hello Dolly. She'll set the record straight on curmudgeon Walter Matthau and incompetent director Gene Kelly.

by Anonymousreply 47February 7, 2023 7:16 PM

Ms. Streisand wishes to inform you bitches that Amazon will only post 5-star reviews for this title.

by Anonymousreply 48February 7, 2023 7:23 PM

I enjoyed her comedies.Like Cher,shes a fabulous comedienne .I rarely enjoyed her music,too schmaltzy for my taste even back when.

by Anonymousreply 49February 7, 2023 7:26 PM

R37 Till I Loved You album was the first indication

by Anonymousreply 50February 7, 2023 7:27 PM

It's 4 pages longer than GONE WITH THE WIND.

by Anonymousreply 51February 7, 2023 8:04 PM

Frankly, r51, Barbra doesn't give a damn.

by Anonymousreply 52February 7, 2023 8:05 PM

Thank you, OP.

We've already pre-ordered, fantasy "experienced" it (reading being too mundane for Barbra), and virtually tossed it into the trash at page 857 of Volume 1, "Funny Butterfly Emerging", Chapter 39, Part 7, "Deepening My Precious Experience of My Gifts in the Nuances of That First Semester My Sophomore Year at Erasmus Hall High."

by Anonymousreply 53February 7, 2023 8:20 PM

Will she forgo her usual end of year album in lieu of this memoir?

by Anonymousreply 54February 7, 2023 8:38 PM

She must have been paid a shitload of money. Publishers don’t usually announce books 9 months in advance of the pub date. They’re trying to lock down placement at B&N, the warehouse clubs and bookstores and garner as many preorders as possible.

The publisher is also looking to lock in major media. I expect a CBS Sunday morning or 60 Minutes at the very least. It’s not a presidential election year, but I wouldn’t publish on Election Day.

by Anonymousreply 55February 7, 2023 8:38 PM

The photos, at least, might be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 56February 7, 2023 8:41 PM

The unabridged audiobook will probably be 30 hours long. I hope she lets Elliott, Ryan, Jon, Don, James etc. to read the spicy bits with her, just to provide a break from unalloyed Barbra. Maybe a chorus of cloned dogs can bark happily between the chapters.

by Anonymousreply 57February 7, 2023 8:44 PM

Sad, Last Days

by Anonymousreply 58February 7, 2023 9:02 PM

Barbra's fans who are still alive will definitely be buying this memoir.

by Anonymousreply 59February 7, 2023 9:02 PM

I do hope the photos are never-seen-before mementoes from her personal collection.

by Anonymousreply 60February 7, 2023 9:12 PM

R60, that's what I was thinking, as well. "Knowing" Barbra, though, she may only release flattering photos of herself, which may exclude 90% of her personal collection.

by Anonymousreply 61February 7, 2023 9:20 PM

I doubt you're going to get any TRUE bitching or revealing non flattering stories about anyone or about HER in this book. It's the end, there will be no other books. Streisand is into all of this California happy stuff where negativity of any kind is considered bad karma. Plus at age 80, she's not so much about venting or settling scores, similar to the last (of several) Billie Jean King autobiography. It's about painting a pretty picture, a definitive picture for posterity.

If Streisand has told a lot of truth, I hope she finally comes clean and admits she was influenced by several female singers and performers never mentioned before. On a radio show a few years ago, her sister said Barbra listened to Lena Horne. I hear it, hope she admits it along with the usual Garland plugs.

by Anonymousreply 62February 7, 2023 9:22 PM

[quote]Barbra's fans who are still alive will definitely be buying this memoir.

Buy and putting on the shelf after looking at the pictures.

by Anonymousreply 63February 7, 2023 9:24 PM

I hope they are James Brolin nudes R60

by Anonymousreply 64February 7, 2023 9:25 PM

R50 her voice had deepened due to aging but the rasp didn’t set in until 2001. When she sang You’ll Never Walk alone was the first time we heard a rasp that wasn’t planned. In fact, she inserted the vocals from her studio recording on the live video on YouTube to cover it up.

Also, one can argue her vocals were stronger in 1993-1994 for Back to Broadway and her concert tour. However, from 2001 onward it was a clear decline. 1988 could be considered a fluke.

by Anonymousreply 65February 7, 2023 9:26 PM

Now that the Yellow Pages are gone, everyone needs a door stop.

(Marketing campaign for when the sales begin to slide.)

As for the audio edition, imagine what her voice will sound like at page 926?

by Anonymousreply 66February 7, 2023 9:34 PM

I'm younger Gen X and I've never known any gay guys my age or younger who are really into Barbra. My generation was all about Madonna. Millennials are only vaguely familiar with her, and Gen Z doesn't know her at all. I've always found it odd that she's always touted as this huge thing that gay men of all ages worship. So not true. She's very generation-specific. Her contemporary Cher has a much wider age range in her fan base.

She's definitely a Boomer thing.

by Anonymousreply 67February 7, 2023 9:59 PM

It will just be soft focus pictures of her, her homes and gardens- interspersed with poems, uplifting sayings and the occasional anecdote.

by Anonymousreply 68February 7, 2023 10:10 PM

R67 From her social media pages, nothing you posted is even remotely true. She still has a huge fan base from every generation. Will Zoomers be willing to try to read her memoir at over 1,000 pages when they are accustomed to reading only texts ? That remains to be seen.

by Anonymousreply 69February 7, 2023 10:11 PM

A reguluh War & Peace, sounds like.

by Anonymousreply 70February 7, 2023 10:35 PM

Sorry r69 she's not relevant to younger generations. Of course there are always a few outliers. And Instagram is full of bots.

by Anonymousreply 71February 7, 2023 10:49 PM

She will remain a relevant beacon to all of the future little girls out there with off-beat looks who identify as screen sirens, r71.

by Anonymousreply 72February 7, 2023 10:52 PM

Instagram is full of bots.

by Anonymousreply 73February 7, 2023 10:54 PM

I'm a boomer and have to agree with R71. Barbra Streisand is a known name for people 45 and over, almost totally unknown to those under 40. Younger people could be familiar with a few of her movies, but even the good ones (Funny Girl, The Way We Were) are insufferably sappy and dated. The good music - the 1960s, imho - is of their grand & great grand parents' generation and not something they can easily relate to (I'm being kind). They certainly don't get why she's supposed to be so "important."

Babs should be absolutely THRILLED that a publisher would pay her whatever and wait ten years, and publish 1,000 pages with her name on it.

by Anonymousreply 74February 7, 2023 11:37 PM

Are you serious, R72????

by Anonymousreply 75February 7, 2023 11:39 PM

Well, r75, who's a current version of "If she can make it with *those* looks..."?

by Anonymousreply 76February 7, 2023 11:48 PM

$45?? Can anyone get it for me wholesale?

by Anonymousreply 77February 7, 2023 11:51 PM

Does her mall have a B. Dalton's or a Barnes & Noble?

by Anonymousreply 78February 7, 2023 11:59 PM

[quote] 1040 pages? Wasn’t there an editor?

Barbra wrote it, edited it and was her own ghost writer. She also did the make-up and costumes, and designed he cover.

by Anonymousreply 79February 8, 2023 12:01 AM

R76, people don't think that way today. In fact, I don't think may EVER thought that way.

by Anonymousreply 80February 8, 2023 12:01 AM

She actually handmade the paper, r79...

by Anonymousreply 81February 8, 2023 12:03 AM

This sounds as if it will be a more excruciating read than a new hot water heater’s assembly instructions.

by Anonymousreply 82February 8, 2023 12:05 AM

Who will have more page references in the index: Donna Karan, Jason, or Samantha?

by Anonymousreply 83February 8, 2023 12:08 AM

[quote] Barbra's fans who are still alive will definitely be buying this memoir.

There must be six or seven of them still!

by Anonymousreply 84February 8, 2023 12:12 AM

I'd rather Kate Jackson's

by Anonymousreply 85February 8, 2023 12:14 AM

4 pages longer than GONE WITH THE WIND!

by Anonymousreply 86February 8, 2023 12:16 AM

Her editor at Viking said on Insta that it was a 10-year project.

by Anonymousreply 87February 8, 2023 12:18 AM

Sorry, but this would be like being sequestered in a room to read/hear a narrative version of "Yentl" that will go on until the end of my life (and then some). I'm intrigued, but not *that* intrigued. Babs desperately needs a director (or, in this case, an editor) and we all know that ain't happenin'. Sorry to rain on your parades.

by Anonymousreply 88February 8, 2023 12:19 AM

"My puberty in Brooklyn was drab."

by Anonymousreply 89February 8, 2023 12:20 AM

Who do you think will read it for the audio version? Lainie Kazan?

by Anonymousreply 90February 8, 2023 12:21 AM

100 pages a year is all I could manage. I have a fucking mall to run!

by Anonymousreply 91February 8, 2023 12:22 AM

I wonder what she'll say about Sandra Gould?

by Anonymousreply 92February 8, 2023 12:22 AM

Mario Cantone, r90

by Anonymousreply 93February 8, 2023 12:25 AM

Your name is BarbAra!

by Anonymousreply 94February 8, 2023 12:30 AM

Will it debut at 50% discount like 'Spare' ??

by Anonymousreply 95February 8, 2023 12:31 AM

I'm certain all the book sellers will be offering it at a discounted price through the end of the year, to make sure it hits #1 on the NY Times Best Seller list. That's what the publishers do with all their high-profiled books (like 'Spare').

by Anonymousreply 96February 8, 2023 1:00 AM

[quote]Who do you think will read it for the audio version? Lainie Kazan?

I'm hoping for Fran Drescher.

by Anonymousreply 97February 8, 2023 1:13 AM

Is this going to be an honest autobiography or Barbra's fantasy version of her life story?

by Anonymousreply 98February 8, 2023 1:14 AM

I wonder how many chapters will be devoted to her movie YENTL being ignored by the Oscars and her claiming 'sexism in Hollywood' at the time ?

by Anonymousreply 99February 8, 2023 1:23 AM

My name is Barboura.

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by Anonymousreply 100February 8, 2023 1:27 AM

Audio version is by Lea Michele. Why not?

by Anonymousreply 101February 8, 2023 1:33 AM

You know she won't talk about the Ann Francis kerfuffle.

by Anonymousreply 102February 8, 2023 1:41 AM

Audio version will be by Melania Trump. Yup - she's going to read ALL 1,040 pages in her broken English.

by Anonymousreply 103February 8, 2023 1:41 AM

Now I'm obsessed with the question of who would be the most memorable for the audio version.

James Earl Jones? Roseanne?

I vote for Sir Patrick Stewart.

by Anonymousreply 104February 8, 2023 1:46 AM

Forget that, R99. She SAID there would be numerous chapters on the horrible 1976 Star is Born.

by Anonymousreply 105February 8, 2023 1:46 AM

Do you think she's mention Liza?

by Anonymousreply 106February 8, 2023 2:02 AM

I am not a very big fan of hers, but I might buy it just to see how she talks about the late 70s, from Jon Peters and "A Star is Born" through Sue Mengers and "All Night Long."

by Anonymousreply 107February 8, 2023 2:03 AM

1,040 pages of garbage

by Anonymousreply 108February 8, 2023 2:10 AM

[quote]R47 I hope she rips that thieving gypsy Lainie Kazan to shreds… She'll set the record straight on curmudgeon Walter Matthau and incompetent director Gene Kelly.

What will she say about her dear little sister Roslyn?

Perhaps there will be a surprise dedication to her??

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by Anonymousreply 109February 8, 2023 2:16 AM

Lessee, Streisand by age 27 had gone to the top of every show business venue, club, concert, B’way stage, TV, film, recording. She had sung for presidents, fund raised for them, donated her Funny Girl salary to a hospital in Israel. She maintained her success critically and commercially for decades. She became a stalwart fund raiser for Democrats and was among the first to advocate for gay marriage rights in the early 90s after also being one of Hollywoods earliest AIDS philanthropists (her Foundation). In her 70s she sold out arenas all over the world and produced recordings that went to the top of the charts. She fearlessly challenged and called out Trump and shined a light on women’s heart disease by funding and promoting biomedical research. She remained stable and private throughout. She embraced her Jewish legacy and succeeded to do in show business what no woman had previously from contracted creative control to all manner of production. Yeah she likes to collect, but much of what she has collected shrewdly she has donated to charity, and bequested to museums. Yeah she cloned a beloved dog- but since when is anything about dog pedigree remotely natural?

No drugs, no drama, giving back from the get go- fearlessly fighting the good fights to this day- give a woman who rode to the pinnacle of success and fame based on raw talent and self confidence a break for the eccentricities along the way. There cannot be a more interesting bio potential than from such a woman. No one in show business come close to her talent, her success and her humanitarian in one person which have each beenfront and center for 60 years.

My parents were philanthropists and knew of those who were similarly devoted. Most of Streisand’s philanthropy is unpublicized and even anonymous. She gives back in the best of her heritage’s tradition and then some. And her voice will be listened to for as long as recordings last. She is one of the great ones.

Yeah, I’ll buy her book.

by Anonymousreply 110February 8, 2023 2:25 AM

I hope she talks about Elliot Gould's dick and hairy butt.

by Anonymousreply 111February 8, 2023 2:25 AM

[quote]R105 She SAID there would be numerous chapters on the horrible 1976 Star is Born.

The problem is I have no interest in her life or career beyond that Oscar win for “Evergreen.”

She kind of wimped out after that.

by Anonymousreply 112February 8, 2023 2:45 AM

[quote]Elliot Gould had bad breath and farted and had dingleberries.

[quote]Omar Sharif's breath smelled like cold coffee and cigarettes and cologne marinade.

[quote]Ryan O'Neal had bad breath.

[quote]Jon Peters had bad breath but my hair never looked better.

[quote]Kris Kristofferson smelled terrible.

[quote]Richard Baskin had minty breath but his hair smelled bad.

[quote]Mandy Patinkin smelled like slick ham and talked like Minnie Mouse unless the mike was on.

[quote]My husband James Brolin is perfect and his breath is a lot better than when we met.

by Anonymousreply 113February 8, 2023 2:49 AM

r110, you didn't mention...the Bridge.

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by Anonymousreply 114February 8, 2023 3:06 AM

[quote] there cannot be a more interesting bio potential than from such a woman.

***to be whispered in hushed and deeply awed tones***

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 115February 8, 2023 3:10 AM

[quote]R98 Is this going to be an honest autobiography or Barbra's fantasy version of her life story?

Mary, please (!)

This bitch is convinced everything she ever did was right. Including [italic]The Mirror Has Two Filters.

by Anonymousreply 116February 8, 2023 3:28 AM

R110 is Barbara

by Anonymousreply 117February 8, 2023 3:39 AM

Come back to the five and dime, Barbra Streisand, Barbra Streisand!

by Anonymousreply 118February 8, 2023 3:49 AM

[quote] donated her Funny Girl salary to a hospital in Israel.

Link?

by Anonymousreply 119February 8, 2023 3:50 AM

I think the big reveal is going to be that she was supposed to be at 10050 Cielo Drive on August 8, 1969, but bowed out at the last minute due to one of her legendary migraines.

by Anonymousreply 120February 8, 2023 5:13 AM

Apparently, Barbra's gloves are off and her nails have been sharpened:

[quote]When aging clown Carol Channing stole my "Funny Girl" Tony, I graciously withheld comment, choosing instead to bide my time and then eventually surprise the world, and poor unsuspecting Carol, with my youthful and charming Dolly Levi recorded for posterity on film. This revealed to a grateful audience, much bigger than Broadway's, exactly how the role should have been acted and sung in the first place!

[quote]Desperate Katharine Hepburn tried to steal my limelight with her so-called tie for my first Oscar. I was planning to demand an immediate recount before giving my acceptance speech, but when she couldn't even dare to show her face at the ceremony I realized she was running scared and would, wisely, never again challenge me with her crooked math games.

[quote]Glenda Jackson, who cannot sing a note or find a more glamorous hairstyle, has always had more than a touch of classlessness, never more so than when she brazenly snatched my richly deserved "The Way We Were" Oscar from my waiting hands. Memories of that Oscar night still light the corners of my mind with bonfires of rage!!

[quote]James L. Brooks, can you hear me??? You couldn't direct traffic in the studio parking lot!! "Yentl" was widely proclaimed for its landmark directorial vision and tastefully erotic male nudity, and yet my Oscar was stolen by this TV hack for his glorified shit-com "Terms of Endearment."

[quote]The current fashion for rescue dogs has created a wayward backlash against my tireless efforts to maintain "best in show" standards by any scientific means necessary! Being overlooked year after year for the Nobel Prize in Medicine in spite of my decades of groundbreaking work in the field of cloning Cotons de Tuléar has been like receiving repeated slaps in the face. Slaps I will NEVER forget or forgive!

[quote]When Viola Davis finally won her EGOT for reading her brief and underwhelming memoir, I refrained from commenting, knowing that it would only draw attention to the undeniable fact that when I win the Grammy next year for the emotional reading my own epic life story, I will become the greatest EEEGGGGGGGOOT star!

by Anonymousreply 121February 8, 2023 6:47 AM

[quote]No drugs, no drama

Uhm.

by Anonymousreply 122February 8, 2023 9:34 AM

r109=Lorna Luft

by Anonymousreply 123February 8, 2023 10:33 AM

R106, WHY?

by Anonymousreply 124February 8, 2023 11:45 AM

Very funny, R121, but Babs doesn’t write that well. Who’s the ghost writer, Donna Karan?

by Anonymousreply 125February 8, 2023 11:55 AM

And you know this how, r125?

by Anonymousreply 126February 8, 2023 12:10 PM

How do I know Streisand is not that good a writer, R126? Everybody knows that.

by Anonymousreply 127February 8, 2023 12:42 PM

To be fair to Babs, R67: most of Gen Z doesn't know much about anything beyond their immediate age group.

by Anonymousreply 128February 8, 2023 1:04 PM

I wonder if she will mention Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin and Dionne Warwick ? All were her contemporaries in the 60s, getting started when she did.

by Anonymousreply 129February 8, 2023 1:11 PM

I’m sure it will be the number one bestseller in her bookstore in the mall, in the basement, of her mansion, in Malibu, on a cliff, by the sea.

by Anonymousreply 130February 8, 2023 1:14 PM

"much of what she has collected shrewdly she has donated to charity"

R110, come again? Much of what she collected she sold at auctions. And she donated her salary from Funny Girl to Israel? That's the first I've heard of that, but if you say so.

I love her but she's done nothing but whitewash and airbrush (literally) her image for 40 years now, so I can't imagine her book will be a departure from that and that she'll suddenly be refreshingly candid--at least about herself.

by Anonymousreply 131February 8, 2023 1:17 PM

R114, do you have to pay a toll to cross it?

by Anonymousreply 132February 8, 2023 1:26 PM

I fear the same thing most people have already said. Barbra lives in a fantasy land most of the time where she was the object of everyone’s desire and lust. We want chapters on her feud with Lainie Kazan. What we will get will be chapters on Robert Redford flirting with her for two months while they filmed TWWW

by Anonymousreply 133February 8, 2023 1:28 PM

[quote]I wonder if she will mention Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin and Dionne Warwick ?

NO, because they're not in the same category as music to theater to movies Streisand. Even though she went Top 40 dreck in the 1970s, Barbra the "actress who sings," doesn't really know those others. Her true peers were the Peggy Lees, Judy Garlands and Lena Hornes. Although I must say in Barbra's conquest to appear young she may hit those notes to make people think she was aware of regular pop music of the time.

What's this obsession with Lainie Kazan? Lainie got a break and took advantage of it. The only interesting thing about the event was Barbra Streisand's massive insecurity and terror that someone else got press from "her role." I doubt there were any words between them - before or after.

As far as the dedication, it will go to James Brolin. I'm willing to wager on it.

by Anonymousreply 134February 8, 2023 2:08 PM

Her DVD commentary for "What's Up Doc?" was the worst I have ever heard.

It provided no insight into her work. And she obviously had little memory of doing it. "I just did what I was told. [Car drives onto a car truck] Oh, that was funny." Five minutes later, it's done.

She probably has written this book to settle scores, not illuminate her life.

by Anonymousreply 135February 8, 2023 2:30 PM

[quote]doesn't really know those others

Barbra famously complained about Diana Ross "Why is she trying to steal my act?"

She wasn't wrong. Diana did release a Funny Girl album. And, much to Streisand's annoyance, released the title song to the film before Barbra. That was pretty cheeky.

by Anonymousreply 136February 8, 2023 2:32 PM

At over 1,000 pages, R135, she must have a LOT of scores to settle.

[quote]Babs desperately needs a director (or, in this case, an editor) and we all know that ain't happenin

She has an editor. The original finished manuscript was 5,000 pages!

by Anonymousreply 137February 8, 2023 2:35 PM

I would love if she addresses this scathing article written by Frank Pierson about the nightmare of working with her and Jon Peters on A Star Is Born which was published in New West magazine right before the movies premiere.

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by Anonymousreply 138February 8, 2023 2:37 PM

R136, unless you can provide a link to a direct quote, be advised that the controversy was invented by J Randy Taraborrelli for a Diana Ross book. He even quotes Streisand as saying Ross stole her producer. She didn't use Bab's producer, that's bullshit like most of his book.

by Anonymousreply 139February 8, 2023 2:39 PM

[quote]Do you think she's mention Liza?

"I stopped the very important thing I was saying to turn around to see where the horrendous noise was coming from. It was the famous boozer daughter of an even more famous (and talented) boozer. She was on the other side of the party braying my name and telling me how much she loved me. It put me on the spot. As I have mentioned well over one hundred times already, I always try to be nice. But the poor thing had a dreadful, loud voice that blasted out every note without regard to the lyric. It wasn't as if I could tell her I loved her too. Suddenly, I thought of a lovely compliment: 'I loved singing with your mother. She told me I was the only person she ever sang with that she admired.' With that pleasantry done with, I turned my back on the woman and finished my important remark."

by Anonymousreply 140February 8, 2023 2:45 PM

Of course, R138, it'll be part of the ten chapters devoted to the film.

by Anonymousreply 141February 8, 2023 2:47 PM

Streisand owes her carreer to Connie Francis, who laid the foundation for her.

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by Anonymousreply 142February 8, 2023 2:54 PM

Streisand on "A Star is Born:"

[quote]So "Funny Lady" was finally done and my obligation to Ray was finished. Everyone said I was great in the film but it had problems beyond my control. All throughout filming, I kept thinking (when not trying to slap James's hand away from my tush), "If I only I were directing this scene, this would be Best Picture!" Next, I think I did "A Star is Born." Then, I teamed up with Ryan O'Neal again to do a very important picture about boxing and perfume. It was very profound how we tied those two things together and interwound them. Of course, it went right over the audience's heads. But what can you do? You can't make people like classy entertainment when they are used to garbage, right?

by Anonymousreply 143February 8, 2023 2:59 PM

R142 Who?

by Anonymousreply 144February 8, 2023 3:00 PM

The article at R138 is a must-read!

by Anonymousreply 145February 8, 2023 3:25 PM

[quote]—Barbra previews brilliant commentary on her costars and lovers from her Me-Moir.

Pronounced "mem-WAH"

by Anonymousreply 146February 8, 2023 3:31 PM

Brendad, remember that time you met Barbra? On her album cover.

by Anonymousreply 147February 8, 2023 4:03 PM

I'm most interested in her take on the Jon Peters era. That was when she was at her peak as a superstar. So much crazy shit went down between them and around them during that time.

The making of A Star is Born was one of the wildest and craziest moments in movie history. I can't wait to read her take on Kristofferson's drug and alcohol problems, Jon Peters rushing over to Kris's house one night to stop him from beating up Rita Coolidge, and their falling out with Joan Didion and John Gregory Dunne. That should be worth the price of the book right there.

I'm sure Barbra will talk about all of the movie roles that she turned down that eventually went to Jane Fonda, like Klute, They Shoot Horses Don't They and Julia. She'll also talk about turning down Cabaret and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. So many lost Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 148February 8, 2023 4:34 PM

She'll be nice to that illiterate asshole Peters, R148.

by Anonymousreply 149February 8, 2023 4:37 PM

I never understand the idea that a role would have won or even been nominated for an Oscar even if a different person had played it. Maybe that's true for a handful of extremely well written films, but most of the time good casting is good casting.

by Anonymousreply 150February 8, 2023 4:52 PM

That's right, R150. She might have turned down all those roles that won Oscars or Oscar nominations, but I sure can't picture her winning Oscars for any of them.

by Anonymousreply 151February 8, 2023 4:55 PM

I wonder if she will come clean about all of the plastic surgery and especially the BREAST IMPLANTS.

by Anonymousreply 152February 8, 2023 4:58 PM

[quote]I'm sure Barbra will talk about all of the movie roles that she turned down that eventually went to Jane Fonda, like Klute, They Shoot Horses Don't They and Julia. She'll also talk about turning down Cabaret and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. So many lost Oscars.

It will be funny if the only things she writes about are things like which color flower works best with which wallpaper.

And if she talks about her costars, I bet she will not be brutally honest. She is hypersensitive to her rep for being a bitch. She isn't going to add to it in her book.

by Anonymousreply 153February 8, 2023 5:00 PM

[quote] As far as the dedication, it will go to James Brolin. I'm willing to wager on it.

I wonder how he handles her. Just ignore her and go on trips?

by Anonymousreply 154February 8, 2023 5:29 PM

[quote] She probably has written this book to settle scores, not illuminate her life.

I'd be interested to read a "settling scores" autobiography.

by Anonymousreply 155February 8, 2023 5:30 PM

Barbra in Klute would've been ridiculous. No way would she be believable as a high-priced call girl.

by Anonymousreply 156February 8, 2023 5:40 PM

Oh, nuts, r156.

by Anonymousreply 157February 8, 2023 5:49 PM

Since Barbra said she had to go to others for info since she's forgotten a lot of her life and career, it obviously won't a true memoir - it'll be theirs.

Picture this:

Hello, Lainie, this is Barbra. Barbra Streisand. What was that thing about you in Funny Girl? I forgot.

Don't bother me, Barbara, I'm trying to escape from Fazio's with an unpaid for rotisserie chicken!

by Anonymousreply 158February 8, 2023 5:58 PM

There seems to be a great deal of commotion about a book that no one will admit to buying or reading.

by Anonymousreply 159February 8, 2023 6:09 PM

She should have called it "My Name is Barbara", just to mess with everyone.

by Anonymousreply 160February 8, 2023 6:10 PM

[quote]R136 Barbra famously complained about Diana Ross "Why is she trying to steal my act?"

Seems like the one she’d really have reason to resent was Bette Midler (the other ugly girl)

by Anonymousreply 161February 8, 2023 6:59 PM

[quote] It will be funny if the only things she writes about are things like which color flower works best with which wallpaper.

That's probably what she's going to do. And it won't be funny: it will be exceedingly boring.

She has lived a remarkable life, and yet she is fundamentally a very tedious person. Control freaks always are.

by Anonymousreply 162February 8, 2023 7:05 PM

[quote]R148 I'm most interested in her take on the Jon Peters era. So much crazy shit went down between them and around them during that time.

What about the journalist that was almost ripped to shreds by their attack dogs when visiting the Malibu compound? Settled out of court.

I don’t think I could ever forgive myself if I caused something like that. But I bet Babs just ordered some tea and tiny avocado sandwiches after the ambulance pulled away, never to miss a blink of sleep.

by Anonymousreply 163February 8, 2023 7:12 PM

[quote]NO, because they're not in the same category as music to theater to movies Streisand

Because Streisand has covered three different categories - movies, music and theater - she has different peers in each category.

For starting out in the music business in the 60s, her peers would most definitely be Ross, Warwick and Franklin (among others).

She has already acknowledged in the past that Diahann Carroll was a contemporary of hers, as they both started out in the same nightclub circuit in Manhattan in the early 60s, then off to recording studios, both moved onto Broadway, and then both moved onto Hollywood movies. She had nothing but pleasant memories of her friend Carroll over the years.

She and Ross both started out together at the same time in music and Ross was just a few years behind her in movies. Gordy had made no secret that he wanted Ross to be on the same trajectory of Streisand, and turn her into the 'ebony Streisand'. He was well on his way for 20 years, until she left him in 1981 to manage her own career.

I'd like to hear her recollections of being in the business with Carroll, Ross, Warwick and Franklin (who was her labelmate at Columbia for a short period of time) in the early 1960s.

by Anonymousreply 164February 8, 2023 7:54 PM

I want *all* the dish on Marianne McAndrew!

by Anonymousreply 165February 8, 2023 8:17 PM

There’s a jokester at Amazon. The book is now ranked:

#1 Romance Fiction Writing Reference

#1 Culinary Biographies and Memoirs

#12 Memoirs (Books)

by Anonymousreply 166February 8, 2023 8:40 PM

[quote]But I bet Babs just ordered some tea and tiny avocado sandwiches after the ambulance pulled away

No, cucumber sandwiches.

by Anonymousreply 167February 8, 2023 9:11 PM

I'm looking forward to reading about her recording with Donna Summer, one of the greatest duets of all time. The two remained friends untils Summer's death in 2012, which Streisand has said (since) she was surprised to hear about it, as Summer never mentioned anything about being diagnosed with cancer to her.

by Anonymousreply 168February 8, 2023 9:24 PM

[quote]For starting out in the music business in the 60s, her peers would most definitely be Ross, Warwick and Franklin (among others). She has already acknowledged in the past that Diahann Carroll was a contemporary of hers, as they both started out in the same nightclub circuit in Manhattan in the early 60s

ADULT pop vocalists were a different category than teen pop singer/groups or R&B in the 1960s. Streisand had crossover appeal, but her audience was mainly adults over 30, not teens. Diahann Carroll was fellow theater folk and sang Cole Porter in nightclubs, not folk or Carole King songs. Barbra and Diahann were a higher category since their audience was older and could get into a drinking establishment like the Copa. In the 1960s, no way would Streisand consider herself equal with the Supremes, Herman Hermits, Dionne Warwick OR Neil Diamond. She was above them - in category.

Eventually the era of adult popular vocalists ended as everyone got older and the record companies banished them unless they would sing contemporary pop. Sinatra retired in 1971 because of that (and unretired two years later).

by Anonymousreply 169February 8, 2023 9:25 PM

[quote]r138 I would love if she addresses this scathing article written by Frank Pierson about the nightmare of working with her and Jon Peters on A Star Is Born

My favorite bit, from an intimate preproduction meeting with the director, as she curls up on a couch:

[italic] She is upset with me. "I don't feel you really want to love me. All my directors have wanted to make me beautiful. But I feel you hold something back; there's something you don't tell me. You never talk to me." I realize she's serious.

"You'll pay," she says, "for every lousy thing Ray Stark ever did to me."

by Anonymousreply 170February 8, 2023 9:53 PM

I hope the book includes a long list of those lousy things...

by Anonymousreply 171February 8, 2023 9:56 PM

From the press release:

The book is, like Barbra herself, frank, funny, opinionated, and charming.

by Anonymousreply 172February 8, 2023 10:03 PM

Even the press release is a whitewash. I guess she writes them, too.

"The book is, like Barbra herself, frank, funny, opinionated, and charming."--Barbra Streisand

by Anonymousreply 173February 8, 2023 10:06 PM

I wonder if the book is like Barbra, funny, opinionated, and charming.

by Anonymousreply 174February 8, 2023 10:08 PM

Of course the press release is white wash - they ALL are. I posted it because it's funny, R173.

by Anonymousreply 175February 8, 2023 10:12 PM

R175, I was going to say that I know they're whitewashed in general, but in this case, times ten.

by Anonymousreply 176February 8, 2023 10:16 PM

R170 I also like:

“ I am staging a moment when Kris marches onstage: screaming extras rush through security guards to get close to the stage, deluge him with flowers. Barbra arrives late and, seeing the extras poised, ready to attack the stage, fails to understand they will move. She screams at me: "Why are they here? They should be over there!" I start to speak. She shrieks in a baby's desperate wail: "I want it!" It has the power of primitive will, full of loneliness. I ignore it.

The days and nights wear on. Discussion and rehearsals are impossible. Barbra can never settle on a final reading or version, and nothing gets done. Our exhaustion begins to deepen.”

by Anonymousreply 177February 8, 2023 10:22 PM

And Babs deciding that Esther Hoffman wore exactly the same clothes as she did.

by Anonymousreply 178February 8, 2023 10:30 PM

"Ms. Streisand's clothes...from her closet"

by Anonymousreply 179February 8, 2023 10:33 PM

I have no doubt Streisand (and Peters) were egomaniacal imbeciles during the filming of A Star is Born, but be advised that "director" Frank Pierson was an arrogant asshole with a big agenda.

by Anonymousreply 180February 8, 2023 10:34 PM

I hope she digs into her grievances with The Oscars and TMHTF

by Anonymousreply 181February 8, 2023 10:34 PM

[quote]—Actual on-line credit to herself

Hence my post.

by Anonymousreply 182February 8, 2023 10:42 PM

That's right, R180. Pierson comes off as a combo of sycophant and truth teller. As Pauline Kael astutely said in her scathing review of "A Star Is Born," in mentioning that Pierson article: "He rigged things both ways for himself: if the picture we got to see was anything less than great, it would be because Streisand and Peters wrecked it in the final cut, while if it *was* great, we had him to congratulate. Pierson doesn't mention that he had previously directed only one movie...it was a failure."

In fact, that article he wrote was so shallow and self-congratulatory that it was hard for me to imagine how someone who wrote what I think is a brilliant screenplay ("Dog Day Afternoon") could also write something so trite.

by Anonymousreply 183February 8, 2023 10:48 PM

She's had plenty of years to settle scores. What, was she waiting for some of us to die?

by Anonymousreply 184February 8, 2023 11:06 PM

She didn't wait for me to.

by Anonymousreply 185February 8, 2023 11:06 PM

Girl, please.

by Anonymousreply 186February 8, 2023 11:08 PM

Actually she writes quite well and has been published in quite a few newspapers- political commentary. Ever listen to her Harvard talk from the early 90’s. She’s incredibly bright and articulate.

by Anonymousreply 187February 8, 2023 11:26 PM

Frank Pierson more or less destroyed his career. Streisand on the other hand kept blazing away post Star with film, recording, concert, TV, etc. so…

by Anonymousreply 188February 8, 2023 11:29 PM

[quote]She’s incredibly bright and articulate.

Of course she is. We all are.

by Anonymousreply 189February 8, 2023 11:37 PM

Whatever Streisand and Peters did with ASIB, they did it right - it was one of the top films at the box office for 1977. It had one of the best selling soundtracks of 1977. They knew what the American audience was craving in the mid / late 1970s.

by Anonymousreply 190February 8, 2023 11:49 PM

R187, do you actually believe she wrote that shit herself?

by Anonymousreply 191February 8, 2023 11:49 PM

R180 = equates box office with quality. Idiot!

by Anonymousreply 192February 8, 2023 11:50 PM

It also got critically panned and is often cited as the worst version of ASIB. I do have a soft spot for it however. It’s a perfect time capsule of 1976.

by Anonymousreply 193February 9, 2023 12:17 AM

R193 It did, but the bottom line = it made a shitload of money for Warner Bros. And really, in Hollywood, that's all that matters. (Personally, it's not my favorite Streisand movie - one of my least favorites from her).

by Anonymousreply 194February 9, 2023 12:19 AM

One of my favorites is "All Night Long" with Gene Hackman and Dennis Quaid. Underappreciated, imo.

by Anonymousreply 195February 9, 2023 12:22 AM

[quote]Her true peers were the Peggy Lees, Judy Garlands and Lena Hornes.

Where did they keep the spares?

by Anonymousreply 196February 9, 2023 12:23 AM

Fyi: the book's editor is a regular on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 197February 9, 2023 12:23 AM

Babs is on DL?

by Anonymousreply 198February 9, 2023 12:24 AM

It was definitely the end of my Barbra "period". I wasn't *that* into her and it was so self-indulgent. I just stopped seeing her movies. I've never seen, Yentl, Tides or Mirror.

by Anonymousreply 199February 9, 2023 12:25 AM

Good R197. Maybe they can explain why this is coming in over 1,000 pages.

by Anonymousreply 200February 9, 2023 12:31 AM

OMG, I saw NUTS...ew.

by Anonymousreply 201February 9, 2023 12:43 AM

R196 In the trunk of her Mercedes.

by Anonymousreply 202February 9, 2023 12:47 AM

Yeah, it's terrible, R201.

by Anonymousreply 203February 9, 2023 1:06 AM

Barbra's editor is a sweetie. Hope he's a regular here.

by Anonymousreply 204February 9, 2023 1:08 AM

R121 You had me going there for quite a while. THAT I'd read. Damn!

by Anonymousreply 205February 9, 2023 1:28 AM

Darling, R194, you are not a movie exec nor a major stock holder. So WTF does box office have to do with film quality?

by Anonymousreply 206February 9, 2023 1:29 AM

R204 = Barbra's book editor

by Anonymousreply 207February 9, 2023 1:31 AM

I predict: The book is, like Barbra herself, [italic]highly [/italic]selective, unawares, long winded, and maddening.

by Anonymousreply 208February 9, 2023 1:51 AM

[quote]R180 Frank Pierson was an arrogant asshole with a big agenda

And what was that?

by Anonymousreply 209February 9, 2023 1:54 AM

[quote] I'm sure Barbra will talk about all of the movie roles that she turned down that eventually went to Jane Fonda, like Klute, They Shoot Horses Don't They and Julia. She'll also talk about turning down Cabaret and Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore. So many lost Oscars.

I can see her doing Klute or They Shoot Horses, Don;t They?, but she would not have been as good as Jane Fonda in those roles. She's not half the actor Fonda is.

She would have been unimaginably bizarre in both Cabaret or ADLHA.

by Anonymousreply 210February 9, 2023 1:57 AM

Will she talk about when she moved out to Hollywood and crimped her hair? And sang songs like: "Free again...lucky, lucky me, I'm free again."

by Anonymousreply 211February 9, 2023 2:17 AM

We know why she would turn down Julia...

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by Anonymousreply 212February 9, 2023 2:24 AM

[quote] 1,000+ pages is almost twice what Jane Fonda and Barbara Walters churned out in their hefty memoirs.

But Jane Fonda and Barbara Walters didn't star in "Cycle Sluts"

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by Anonymousreply 213February 9, 2023 7:58 AM

Hopefully she'll reveal why she turned down The Excorcist.

by Anonymousreply 214February 9, 2023 8:01 AM

Exorcist*

by Anonymousreply 215February 9, 2023 8:03 AM

Barbra said she turned down Horses because she was exhausted just reading the script. Funny. I don't see her wanting to look all sweaty and disheveled doing a dance marathon.

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by Anonymousreply 216February 9, 2023 10:25 AM

With those teeths she was afraid that everyone would say she was the horse.

by Anonymousreply 217February 9, 2023 12:04 PM

Her teeth are fine, R217. She's not Sarah Jessica Parker.

by Anonymousreply 218February 9, 2023 12:40 PM

R206 Where in the world did I connect 'film quality' and 'box office' in my post ? The answer is 'nowhere'. So WTF are you babbling about ?

by Anonymousreply 219February 9, 2023 1:06 PM

I wonder if the plans to release two volumes of her memoir happened, she was planning on calling them "My Name Is Barbra" and "My Name Is Barbra, 2" ?

by Anonymousreply 220February 9, 2023 4:01 PM

Gee, I wonder what the French edition will be called.

by Anonymousreply 221February 9, 2023 4:06 PM

Or "The Second Barbra Streisand Memoir."

by Anonymousreply 222February 9, 2023 4:07 PM

I wonder if she'll talk about Ray Stark raping her? Doubtful, since Jon Peters was going to talk about it in his unpublished memoir and Barbra put the kibosh on it.

Looking forward to her stories about Sue Mengers. You know she has some doozies.

by Anonymousreply 223February 9, 2023 4:21 PM

Stark raped her? Streisand said as recently as a couple years ago she had never had her own #metoo issue. Why would she, of all people, hold her tongue then or now? I don't buy it.

by Anonymousreply 224February 9, 2023 4:28 PM

Do people actually read books that long these days?

by Anonymousreply 225February 9, 2023 4:33 PM

R225, this is hardly Dostoevsky.

by Anonymousreply 226February 9, 2023 4:54 PM

[quote]I'd be interested to read a "settling scores" autobiography.

She will settle scores with her critics, not other celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 227February 9, 2023 5:04 PM

By the way - the book ends in 1996 with her meeting Jim. The last 26 years are coverd in an epilogue.

It was famous photographer Francesco Scavullo who was attacked by the guarddog Big Red (pictured on the back of her Songbird album). He did not press charges but had the advantage of a super cooperative Babs in their next sitting. A far cry from their first encounter where he got directed by Barbra to the point where he put the camera down and told her to take pictures of herself.

by Anonymousreply 228February 9, 2023 5:19 PM

Is Jon Peters still among the living? If so, what has he been up to in the last 50 years?

by Anonymousreply 229February 9, 2023 5:22 PM

Untangling Barbra's hair from "A Star Is Born" strand by strand.

by Anonymousreply 230February 9, 2023 5:24 PM

R228 where did you get that story about Scavullo?

by Anonymousreply 231February 9, 2023 5:26 PM

R223, Jon Peters is a bullshitter, starting with the Ray Stark story.

[quote]I wonder if the plans to release two volumes of her memoir happened, she was planning on calling them "My Name Is Barbra" and "My Name Is Barbra, 2" ?

No, the second volume would be My Name is Barbara TWO - like the album.

by Anonymousreply 232February 9, 2023 5:35 PM

I can't wait for people to start posting excerpts from the book on here because I ain't spending a dime on the goddamn thing.

by Anonymousreply 233February 9, 2023 5:58 PM

Will she hold a book signing in her mall?

by Anonymousreply 234February 9, 2023 6:01 PM

R231

an early 80ies bio of Babs

as told by Scavullos assistant to the authors.

by Anonymousreply 235February 9, 2023 6:03 PM

How bad was Scavullo injured? Was it a very serious attack?

by Anonymousreply 236February 9, 2023 6:07 PM

I am looking forward to the interviews! She is the originator of the Streisand effect, and I really admire her for dealing with that as well as many other things.

by Anonymousreply 237February 9, 2023 6:21 PM

Babs seems to have a problem with her dogs biting innocent people. I recall she was on someone's private plane years ago with one of her disagreeable little shit dogs and the cunty little Coton bit someone also riding on the plane. Apparently, she was all over the person, heaping apologies upon them in order to avoid a potential lawsuit.

Muzzle those fuckers, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 238February 9, 2023 6:33 PM

People reports on dog biting.

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by Anonymousreply 239February 9, 2023 8:08 PM

Why is she cloning dogs who bite?

by Anonymousreply 240February 9, 2023 8:11 PM

Dog also bit Pierce Brosnan.

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by Anonymousreply 241February 9, 2023 8:15 PM

[quote]By the way - the book ends in 1996 with her meeting Jim. The last 26 years are coverd in an epilogue.

This is what she said two years ago when she was doing promo for 'Release Me, 2'. Back then, she mentioned the book was over 700 pages, and there were two volumes planned. Now that there is only one volume planned, and it clocks in at 1,040 pages - I wonder if Viking asked her to drop the 'epilogue' and continue through to the present ?

by Anonymousreply 242February 9, 2023 8:16 PM

I've heard that this volume's last sentence reads, "And then I stepped onto the Bon Soir stage. And life would never be the same."

by Anonymousreply 243February 9, 2023 8:22 PM

That bullshit that her nasty little dog never exhibited that kind of behavior before was clearly a lie.

by Anonymousreply 244February 9, 2023 8:33 PM

[quote]Babs seems to have a problem with her dogs biting innocent people

What about those who deserve it - the guilty people?

by Anonymousreply 245February 9, 2023 10:43 PM

[quote]R228 It was famous photographer Francesco Scavullo who was attacked by the guarddog Big Red (pictured on the back of her Songbird album)

Maybe there was more than one attack, as is often the case with bloodthirsty guard dogs?

Anyway, I read it in “Her Name is Barbra: An Intimate Portrait of the Real Barbra Streisand” by Randall Riese. I could be misremembering it - yet I seem to recall the whole staff was scared of these dogs.

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KIRKUS REVIEW: Big, strongly researched life of the actress/singer that gives a rich sense of her life as a human being—and as an outsized ego. According to Riese (The Unabridged James Dean, 1991, etc.—not reviewed), the death of Streisand's father at age 35, left unexplained by her mother, gave the future star fears of a similar early death. Moreover, since childhood, she has heard clicks and a wailing in her ears that may or may not be tied to emotional abuse she suffered from her wife-beating stepfather. With her younger, pretty sister Rosalind the family darling, Streisand did chores and washed floors as both Cinderella and the Ugly Duckling. Though her singing voice was early recognized in her Brooklyn neighborhood, she focused on acting in summer stock upstate and on acting lessons in Manhattan and has ever since declared herself an actress, not a singer, since her voice comes from her mother (whom she allots $1,000 monthly) but her acting talent from her own hard work. At 19, in her Broadway debut in I Can Get it for You Wholesale, she stopped the show—and then took off like a rocket, performing in supper clubs, making records, harmonizing on TV's The Judy Garland Show, and, at 23, blowing the theater critics to tatters as Fanny Brice in Funny Girl, which led to an Oscar for her film version. Though Riese apparently hasn't interviewed Streisand, he makes statements and assumptions about her emotional life that seem to be based on information from those close to her (``Despite sexist speculation that she was a pussycat on the Funny Girl set because she was being satisfied in bed [by her married hairdresser, Jon Peters], Barbra was her typically malcontent self during the production'). The star's directing and acting in The Prince of Tides takes up major space here. Warm, sometimes fanzine-toned treatment of an often gripping artist.

by Anonymousreply 246February 9, 2023 11:08 PM

Wasn't she shtupping Omar Shariff during the making of "Funny Girl"?

by Anonymousreply 247February 9, 2023 11:12 PM

..."gripping"?

by Anonymousreply 248February 9, 2023 11:32 PM

[quote]R247 Wasn't she shtupping Omar Shariff during the making of "Funny Girl"?

Yes. And she had him flown back to the set, though he’d completed filming his role, to stand behind the flats while she sang the climactic “My Man.”

by Anonymousreply 249February 9, 2023 11:35 PM

I never heard she had a relationship with Peters during the film. it was Barbra! Omar!

by Anonymousreply 250February 9, 2023 11:44 PM

I wonder if she'll talk about how Greta Garbo was obsessed with her and used to stalk her in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 251February 9, 2023 11:47 PM

They actually had an encounter, r251. Barbra ducked into an epicurean shop. When Greta followed her in, Barbra was ready and hit her in the head with a fondue pot. I believe that's when the stalking ended.

by Anonymousreply 252February 9, 2023 11:52 PM

Unfortunately, because of the Garbo estate and Barbra's lawyers, these characters and the fondue pot weren't allowed in any version of the film or game board of "Clue".

by Anonymousreply 253February 9, 2023 11:57 PM

I wonder if she will spend a chapter taking down Kaye Ballard, who dared to criticize her in "How I Lost 10 Pounds in 53 Years:."

by Anonymousreply 254February 10, 2023 12:17 AM

R247, Omar had at least two other women on the side during that experience.

by Anonymousreply 255February 10, 2023 12:40 AM

What did Kaye say, R254?

by Anonymousreply 256February 10, 2023 12:52 AM

When is volume 2 being published?

by Anonymousreply 257February 10, 2023 1:19 AM

I fear half the book will be her going into great detail about the lifeless interiors of her home. Again.

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by Anonymousreply 258February 10, 2023 1:22 AM

R257 There is no Volume 2. Viking nixed that idea.

by Anonymousreply 259February 10, 2023 1:25 AM

"Lifeless" is the word, R258.

Volume 2? It took her 10 years to write volume 1. She'd be 92 by the time she finished it, at which time she'll be in preproduction as Mama Rose in Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 260February 10, 2023 1:27 AM

Since she’s so into acquiring money (god knows why, given what she already has) it would be a brilliant move for her to do the audiobook herself in a year’s time. The book will sell out and the audiobook would sell out.

But she would take so long recording and editing it that it would take YEARS.

by Anonymousreply 261February 10, 2023 1:42 AM

[quote]Since she’s so into acquiring money (god knows why, given what she already has)

She's very charitable, r261.

by Anonymousreply 262February 10, 2023 1:45 AM

There was a certain level of sarcasm there, right, R262?

by Anonymousreply 263February 10, 2023 1:46 AM

She’s “so in to acquiring money”? Huh? Yeah she’s made a lot and is a shrewd investor and collector, but where does that comment come from?

The better statement is that she’s knows how to use wealth-

Ray Stark did not rape her. But he did drive her crazy professionally.

by Anonymousreply 264February 10, 2023 1:49 AM

I heard she titled it 'My Name Is Barbra' because her first choice - 'Spare' - was already taken this year.

by Anonymousreply 265February 10, 2023 1:54 AM

R265 = Roslyn

by Anonymousreply 266February 10, 2023 1:59 AM

Roz...

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by Anonymousreply 267February 10, 2023 2:02 AM

R256

[quote]Sometime after Barbra Streisand became a full-fledged superstar, she and I happened to be having dinner at the same restaurant. A fan approached her during dinner and asked for an autograph. “Can't you see I’m eating my dinner?” Barbra snapped at the woman. The lady responded loudly, “Well, I enjoyed your last movie!” I can understand that to someone of Barbra’s stature, fans, and especially paparazzi, could get very overwhelming at times. What I can’t understand is how, once you've reached the “star” level, you can be rude to the people who put you there.

by Anonymousreply 268February 10, 2023 2:09 AM

I will read the fuck out of this book. I care not at all if it is all fantasy bollocks, she is such a legend, it will be a marvelous ride we are being invited on.

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by Anonymousreply 269February 10, 2023 2:34 AM

[quote]What did Ray Stark do to her?

Just made her a star, that’s all.

What she resents is that in order to be cast in Stark’s film version of Funny Girl, she had to sign a multi picture deal with him for future projects. She somehow found this obligation objectionable.

Cunt.

[italic] “I never had a father: I was always in charge of myself. I came and went as I pleased. I can't stand for someone to tell me what to do. Ray Stark always used to bully me, the son of a bitch. I made him and he made millions from me, millions!”

by Anonymousreply 270February 10, 2023 2:59 AM

Will she mention "Buyer and Cellar?"

by Anonymousreply 271February 10, 2023 3:02 AM
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by Anonymousreply 273February 10, 2023 3:06 AM

[quote] Powell told a story about the night when Stark and Streisand met to discuss a Funny Girl sequel. The luminaries, she said, had a complicated relationship stemming from the original production.

[quote] “They had an amazing relationship,” Powell said. “There was going to be a sequel to Funny Girl, but she was still mad at Ray — all of those years later. I said, ‘Can we sit down? Just Barbra and Ray and me and figure this out so the world can have this film.’ It was one of the most amazing nights of my life. I got to be Freud.”

[quote]Powell said that Stark and Streisand refused to speak to each other directly. Every bit of conversation had to go through her, even though Streisand and Stark were at the same table.

[quote]“Ray would say, “Marykay, I gave this really great party for Barbra and she sat in the corner the whole time,’ and Barbra would say, ‘Marykay, Ray won’t understand that I was afraid of all of these people,’ and Ray would say, ‘Markay, ask her how she can be afraid when she’s the biggest star in the world.’

[quote]“At the end of dinner, I asked, ‘Have we concluded anything? Have we accomplished anything tonight?’ Barbra said, ‘No, I’m not finished. Let’s go into the living room.’ Five hours later, they left and we had solved nothing.”

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by Anonymousreply 274February 10, 2023 3:08 AM

R229, between lawsuits and a quicky marriage and divorce from Pamela Anderson, Jon Peters is a vocal Trump supporter.

by Anonymousreply 275February 10, 2023 11:28 AM

I wonder if her sister Roz and brother Sheldon will be mentioned in the 1,040 pages ? I wonder of she will mention her crazy stalker Rosie O'Donnell ?

by Anonymousreply 276February 10, 2023 1:51 PM

If you want to know Jon Peters - read some of this: “I Am the Trump of Hollywood”

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by Anonymousreply 277February 10, 2023 2:27 PM

My favorite Barbara story will always be the one that swirled around Hollywood many years ago on one of her later movies -- when she was shown her trailer off set she stormed out furiously a few minutes later and started yelling at everyone near by. Her complaint? She had to turn to see her crap in the toilet. Apparently she refuses to flush a toilet while looking at her business; the plunger must be in front of her.

by Anonymousreply 278February 10, 2023 2:43 PM

When I was little, my mother told me that some children had gone to Barbra's house to bring her soup because it was cold outside. When Barbra heard that they were at the door, she yelled, "Get rid of those brats!"

The story really stuck with me. I now wonder if my mother made it up because she didn't like how much her son was fascinated by Barbra Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 279February 10, 2023 2:49 PM

Did she name her cloned dog Samantha after her "mother" so that both dogs would not just be exact DNA replicas but also have the same name, in other words, be the same dog?

by Anonymousreply 280February 10, 2023 3:19 PM

Bring her soup--in Malibu, R279? Because it was cold--in California?

R278, what kind of toilet configuration has the plunger facing you? Very confused by that.

by Anonymousreply 281February 10, 2023 3:31 PM

R281: A chain coming down from the ceiling in front of her, which is what they installed.

by Anonymousreply 282February 10, 2023 3:34 PM

[quote] She had to turn to see her crap in the toilet. Apparently she refuses to flush a toilet while looking at her business; the plunger must be in front of her.

R278, are you mixing something up in the description? That makes no sense. She "had to turn" to see it, yet she doesn't like to be looking at it? And what does the plunger have to do with it - in case it gets stuck?

by Anonymousreply 283February 10, 2023 3:34 PM

Sorry, R282. I still can't picture it. Even with those old fashioned toilets with a long chan to flush the toilet are behind you. At least as I pictured them.

by Anonymousreply 284February 10, 2023 3:37 PM

R279, that story comes from the Rex Reed hatched job that appeared in the NYT and in his book Do You Sleep in the Nude, in 1966-67. Babs and crew had worked 30 hrs straight on the TV special Color Me Barbra, and someone had the brilliant idea of having press come in and observe. Cover stories appeared in both Life and Look magazines. Reed admits he embellished and was trying to make a name for himself. It worked.

What happened according to Red Reed: some fans appeared at the gate of the Philadelphia Museum of Art where they were taping, with a pot of chicken soup. Streisand said to send them away, and "these (something I don't remember) follow me everywhere." I accepted and didn't care that she was a bitch, but I was only 12 when I read this. I didn't take into consideration that Barbra was exhausted,

by Anonymousreply 285February 10, 2023 3:43 PM

Mike Wallace asked Barbra about how long she's been in therapy and Barbra cried.

Also, Oprah said that Barbra spray-painted her (Oprah's) microphone white to match Babs' outfit.

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by Anonymousreply 286February 10, 2023 5:26 PM

R282 - "I'll take things which never happened for $500, Alex"

by Anonymousreply 287February 10, 2023 6:21 PM

Amazon ranking today:

#1 Romance Fiction Writing Reference

#1 Comedic Drama & Plays

#1 Culinary Biographies & Memoirs

I’m waiting for it to be #1 in Manga

by Anonymousreply 288February 10, 2023 7:37 PM

The more lists she tops, the more promo the book is getting.

by Anonymousreply 289February 10, 2023 7:39 PM

It was not a serious question R259, but you sound so authoritative and in the know. Did you puff your chest out when typing?

by Anonymousreply 290February 10, 2023 7:40 PM

Mike Wallace was a notorious asshole who was also rude to Bette Davis.

by Anonymousreply 291February 10, 2023 7:42 PM

When I was a kid in the '70s, a sleazy tabloid/movie mag ran a story about her alleged porn loop, [italic]Barbra Streisand in Hardcore.[/italic] She laughed it off later in a [italic]Playboy[/italic] interview, but it does kind of look like her.

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by Anonymousreply 292February 10, 2023 7:48 PM

It was Barbra Streisand!

by Anonymousreply 293February 10, 2023 8:30 PM

I believe Lainie.

She knows things!

by Anonymousreply 294February 10, 2023 9:42 PM

R291, Mike Wallace was a HUGE asshole. He was rude, vindictive, and soul-crushing to a very vulnerable Maria Callas in an interview he did with her later in life, making her defend herself, and basically letting it be known to her (and us) that he thought her career was over.

And let's not forget that ludicrously homophobic documentary he made called "The Homosexuals." He was a screaming, smarmy, self-serving CUNT.

And yeah, he actually made me feel some sympathy for Streisand in his interview with her.

by Anonymousreply 295February 10, 2023 10:01 PM

Yes Wallace was a huge asshole but it was one of her best interviews. She comes across as a real human being more than I've seen her before in interviews. His interview with Callas though was pure cruelty.

by Anonymousreply 296February 10, 2023 11:04 PM

Those "tears" Streisand shed were a fucking glycerin ratings grab!

by Anonymousreply 297February 10, 2023 11:31 PM

[quote]Babs and crew had worked 30 hrs straight on the TV special Color Me Barbra,

The reason they had to work that long is that they had planned to use three, new color TV cameras for the special. But the cameras were untested and two of them didn't work. So they had to shoot everything three times using just one camera.

by Anonymousreply 298February 11, 2023 12:10 AM

Color her...

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by Anonymousreply 299February 11, 2023 12:12 AM

^ Ewwww

by Anonymousreply 300February 11, 2023 12:16 AM

It's interesting that she said she was basically lazy but she always seemed to be an obsessively hard worker whenever she had a project.

by Anonymousreply 301February 11, 2023 12:18 AM

R299 Back when Barbra didn't take herself so seriously.

by Anonymousreply 302February 11, 2023 12:21 AM

According to Martha Stewart Babs likes her bathroom movements to be easy on the joints.

I invited Barbra Streisand to stay at my house,” Martha said. “And, she didn’t like the fact that she had to turn slightly to reach the toilet paper. So, the next thing I know, she is delivering these to my home so that you can put it in front of you.”

Here´s another Babs and Martha story:

Sure, she whips up her own recipes and doles out cooking tips to millions on television. But domestic doyenne Martha Stewart isn't above trying treats from the package, either.

Just the other day, Stewart went to Barbra Streisand's home for lunch. Joining her were Skip Bronson, a member of the board of directors for the Mirage Resorts Hotel in Las Vegas, and his wife, Edie."Barbra served us her favorite dessert, which was angel food cake with Cool Whip," Bronson says. "And Martha loved it. `I've never had Cool Whip before,' she told Barbra. `It's not bad.' "

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by Anonymousreply 303February 11, 2023 12:30 AM

Barbra's Special's *were* special, r300. The song lists and the design elements placed them high above those of, say, your Ann-Margret or your Mitzi Gaynor.

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by Anonymousreply 304February 11, 2023 12:37 AM

I'm old and know all that shit, R304.

by Anonymousreply 305February 11, 2023 12:41 AM

How nice, how nice for you, r305. I was merely responding to your Ewwww reaction. I find nothing Ewwww about it whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 306February 11, 2023 12:44 AM

I remember Martha Stewart's Cool Whip story. Now, I feel like eating Cool Whip.

by Anonymousreply 307February 11, 2023 12:53 AM

Cool Whip on...what was it? Was it Twinkies?

by Anonymousreply 308February 11, 2023 1:01 AM

Call her memoir: “ The Way She Was”

by Anonymousreply 309February 11, 2023 1:08 AM

^ Sorry. I hadn't read that upthread.

by Anonymousreply 310February 11, 2023 1:11 AM

'It's not bad' is not 'I loved it.'

by Anonymousreply 311February 11, 2023 2:13 AM

Cool Whip on angel food cake R308

by Anonymousreply 312February 11, 2023 2:21 AM

Did you expect her to say, "It's not bad...it's absolutely bilious", r311?

by Anonymousreply 313February 11, 2023 2:21 AM

Angel food cake.

by Anonymousreply 314February 11, 2023 2:38 AM

^^ oh dear. I see the matter’s been addressed.

by Anonymousreply 315February 11, 2023 2:39 AM

No, thank you, r315. I hadn't remembered it being angel food cake. Store bought, I imagine.

by Anonymousreply 316February 11, 2023 2:45 AM

So, what did she put the Cool Whip on?

🙄

by Anonymousreply 317February 11, 2023 2:47 AM

Cool Whip is an American brand of imitation whipped cream, referred to as a whipped topping by its manufacturer, Kraft Heinz. It is used in North America as a topping for desserts, and in some no-bake pie recipes as a convenience food or ingredient that does not require physical whipping and can maintain its texture without melting over time.

Cool Whip is sold frozen and must be defrosted in the refrigerator before being used. It has a longer shelf life than cream while frozen. On the other hand, it does not have the same flavor and texture as whipped cream, and costs nearly 50% more per ounce. It was originally marketed as being "non-dairy" despite containing the milk protein casein; it now also includes skimmed milk.

by Anonymousreply 318February 11, 2023 2:49 AM

You can eat frozen Cool Whip.

by Anonymousreply 319February 11, 2023 2:58 AM

I love it.

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by Anonymousreply 320February 11, 2023 3:02 AM

I expected her to say it's disgusting. She certainly would if I served it to her.

by Anonymousreply 321February 11, 2023 3:08 AM

R278 and and 279 are full of what they say Barbra did not want to look at- sheesh.

by Anonymousreply 322February 11, 2023 3:48 AM

In my actor/waiter/model days I once waited on Anne Meara, Marge Redmond (from the r320 commercial) and one of their peers (maybe Lynn Cohen) and I was suddenly, strangely star struck by seeing SARA TUCKER in the flesh. Those ads were [italic]everywhere[/italic] back in the 70s and 80s. I told her I grew up wanting to run away to Tucker Inn and live on Cool Whip.

She smiled and said, “That was a great job.”[/italic] She must have made a fortune.

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by Anonymousreply 323February 11, 2023 4:01 AM

I was more impressed that she was Angie's standby in Sweeney Todd, r323.

by Anonymousreply 324February 11, 2023 4:10 AM

R303, Babs thinks her shit doesn't stick--literally. But she still doesn't want to look at it.

by Anonymousreply 325February 11, 2023 4:15 AM

*Babs thinks her shit doesn't stick or stink.

by Anonymousreply 326February 11, 2023 4:16 AM

R309, it should be called "The Way She Still Is."

by Anonymousreply 327February 11, 2023 4:17 AM

Herb Ross, Arthur Laurents,Jerome Robbins, Ray Stark, Gene Kelly, Walter Matthau.

What a lovely bunch of "People" to deal with as a young woman in the 1960ies.

...just sayin´

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by Anonymousreply 328February 11, 2023 4:35 AM

And, r328, she's...still here.

by Anonymousreply 329February 11, 2023 4:36 AM

Her life story begins with somebody else.

by Anonymousreply 330February 11, 2023 5:50 AM

It’s a DESERT TOPPING! It’s a FLOOR WAX! It’s a DESERT TOPPING! It’s a FLOOR WAX!

by Anonymousreply 331February 11, 2023 6:14 AM

Streisand's interview in 1991 with Wallace was her best ever. Everything happened according to plan to get people in seats at their local theater to see Prince of Tides. Everything - right down to the teardrops. She was selling a drama about a dysfunctional family with deep hidden secrets, and the 'money shot' was watching tough football coach Nick Nolte ('Tom Wingo') shed a tear. So of course, Wallace said something about a deep hidden secret in her life, so she'd shed her tears...right on cue!

Later on she claimed she felt like she was 'raped' - insulting rape victims around the globe.

by Anonymousreply 332February 11, 2023 3:40 PM

"It’s a DESERT TOPPING!"

Oh, dear, R331.

And yes, that was a funny SNL skit.

by Anonymousreply 333February 11, 2023 3:47 PM

R332, I would agree with you, except Wallace was an attack dog with Callas and others.

by Anonymousreply 334February 11, 2023 3:48 PM

[quote]So, what did she put the Cool Whip on?

Her pussy, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 335February 11, 2023 4:08 PM

Wallace vs Maria Callas, Bette Davis and Barbra. Did he have a problem with famous women?

by Anonymousreply 336February 11, 2023 4:53 PM

The antagonism was part of his schtick, r336.

by Anonymousreply 337February 11, 2023 4:56 PM

His line about not liking her is so stupid but I love her facial reaction to it.

by Anonymousreply 338February 11, 2023 4:59 PM

R337, so it worked just as much for his ratings as it did for her.

by Anonymousreply 339February 11, 2023 6:19 PM

NO ONE liked Wallace, R338. And the expression on her face looked very real. Not like she was acting. She looked genuinely hurt.

by Anonymousreply 340February 11, 2023 6:20 PM

What Mike Wallace achieved: making Streisand come off as a lot more appealing than Wallace himself.

by Anonymousreply 341February 11, 2023 6:29 PM

R337 nailed it. I don't know why dummy Barbra didn't know that, everyone else did!

by Anonymousreply 342February 11, 2023 6:41 PM

a clip

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by Anonymousreply 343February 11, 2023 7:21 PM

I didn't believe the Barbra Wept interview for second.

by Anonymousreply 344February 11, 2023 7:24 PM

R339 "60 Minutes" was the #1 network television show at the time, which certainly wasn't lost on Streisand knowing she was going to be promoting her Prince of Tides movie to over 21 million viewers that Sunday night without a penny coming out of the POT budget. He certainly didn't need her for his ratings when they were already sitting at #1. She needed his 21+ million viewers to sell the movie to for free.

By later saying he 'was mean' and she felt like 'she was raped' only kept the buzz going longer, and keeping POT in the media until it opened four weeks later. You can't buy that kind of publicity. She knew what she was doing.

by Anonymousreply 345February 11, 2023 8:09 PM

R345, suffice it to say that it was mutually beneficial for her to appear on "60 Minutes."

by Anonymousreply 346February 11, 2023 8:13 PM

*it was mutually beneficial for her and him

by Anonymousreply 347February 11, 2023 8:14 PM

I think that's where the *mutually* comes in, r347.

by Anonymousreply 348February 11, 2023 8:16 PM

R345, she didn't "later" say he was mean about that interview. She said to his face in the interview that she thought he was mean when she appeared on his show early in both their careers, when he said he didn't like her.

by Anonymousreply 349February 11, 2023 8:16 PM

I know, R348. I meant "mutually beneficial," period.

by Anonymousreply 350February 11, 2023 8:19 PM

What exactly was the benefit for Mike Wallace ? Again, his show was #1 in Primetime that season, averaging 21+ million viewers per week. He didn't need any 'ratings boost'. How did the Streisand interview benefit him or '60 Minutes' ?

by Anonymousreply 351February 11, 2023 8:38 PM

Streisand interviews were *gets*, r351.

by Anonymousreply 352February 11, 2023 8:40 PM

R351, stop pretending that the exalted "60 Minutes" didn't have its ratings because of segments that included celebrity profiles like Streisand's, which they had every week (still do?), and which were a staple the audience expected.

Also, she was a big movie star at the time. And a recording artist.

by Anonymousreply 353February 11, 2023 8:49 PM

R353 It was no benefit to Wallace or '60 Minutes'. Stop pretending like it was. They were at the top of the ratings - Streisand needed them and their 21+ M viewers, more than they needed her. Streisand did her homework - she knew what interview shows were capturing the most viewers, and she went with the #1 show.

There were plenty of movies starring A List stars coming out that Christmas season. There were also plenty of A List singers coming out with albums that season also. I'm sure they could pick someone else who wanted that slot and their 21M viewers. They truly didn't need her.

by Anonymousreply 354February 11, 2023 9:43 PM

[quote]It was no benefit to Wallace or '60 Minutes'.

Of course it was, r354. Let it go.

[quote]They were at the top of the ratings

How do you think they *got* there? Now you're just being disingenuous.

by Anonymousreply 355February 11, 2023 9:56 PM

"There were plenty of movies starring A List stars coming out that Christmas season. There were also plenty of A List singers coming out with albums that season also."

And yet they chose to profile her. I wonder why.

R354, of course it was a benefit for "60 Minutes" to have a major movie star with a major movie coming out. You're a chode.

by Anonymousreply 356February 11, 2023 9:56 PM

r354 is OP, r356. Check out their other posts.

by Anonymousreply 357February 11, 2023 10:01 PM

Mike Wallace being sort of sadistically blunt with Jean Seberg.

She shows incredible poise for a 19-year-old… though it’s interesting seeing the play of mixed emotions cross her face during his intro.

He really seems to go for the jugular at the 12:00 mark.

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by Anonymousreply 358February 11, 2023 10:12 PM

Hi, Lili...

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by Anonymousreply 359February 11, 2023 10:17 PM

He did the whole judge, jury, and executioner thing to look tough when really he just looks like an asshole. Maybe it's successful women he hated. I hope it was cigarettes that killed him.

by Anonymousreply 360February 11, 2023 10:17 PM

Mike Wallace had a major problem with depression all his life. He seemed miserable most of the time.

by Anonymousreply 361February 11, 2023 10:29 PM

Good.

by Anonymousreply 362February 11, 2023 10:30 PM

Well, he certainly seemed a miserbale son of a bitch, R361.

by Anonymousreply 363February 11, 2023 10:31 PM

* miserable

by Anonymousreply 364February 11, 2023 10:31 PM

[quote] I'm sure they could pick someone else who wanted that slot and their 21M viewers. They truly didn't need her.

How can people be this stupid?

They were successful because of their stories and guests, not in a vacuum.

They NEEDED big names (which she was at the time) to get those ratings.

by Anonymousreply 365February 11, 2023 11:53 PM

Yes. Plus - she was fairly selective about giving out interviews. I have mixed feelings about her and get the impression she’s a somewhat horrible person, but booking her was a coup back then.

by Anonymousreply 366February 12, 2023 1:32 AM

Can we stop talking about Mike Wallace? It’s getting rather boring.

by Anonymousreply 367February 12, 2023 1:35 AM

Can you imagine being hate fucked at both ends by Mike Wallace and Bill O’Reilly?

I can.

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by Anonymousreply 368February 12, 2023 2:25 AM

ew

by Anonymousreply 369February 12, 2023 2:39 AM

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by Anonymousreply 370February 12, 2023 2:40 AM

[quote] Wallace vs Maria Callas, Bette Davis and Barbra. Did he have a problem with famous women?

He was an absolute dick to Vanessa Redgrave in this 60 Minutes clip but held her own quite well against his antagonistic grilling of her.

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by Anonymousreply 371February 12, 2023 3:00 AM

Will she mention that Gregory Peck cut corners to make her an Academy member, thus voting for herself and ensuring a tie for her Oscar win?

by Anonymousreply 372February 12, 2023 8:30 AM

r168 She only performed that song after Donna died. Never performed it live with her.

by Anonymousreply 373February 12, 2023 8:34 AM

"Meu nome é Barbra."

by Anonymousreply 374February 12, 2023 11:17 AM

It's not necessarily the questions Wallace asks that characterize him as a bitch; it's the way he asks them.

by Anonymousreply 375February 12, 2023 2:01 PM

Why was Peck so desperate to get Babs into the Academy so she could vote for herself and the tie with Hepburn? Though I don't know if it has to be an exact tie or within a certain number of votes.

by Anonymousreply 376February 12, 2023 3:07 PM

Was Wallace equally hard on male actors, male politicians and corporate men?

by Anonymousreply 377February 12, 2023 3:09 PM

Mike Wallace INVENTED ambush TV journalism. I's what made 60 Minutes a top ten rated program. In fact, it was the number #1 rated program on TV for a long time. People loved his aggressive no bullshit interviews. If Streisand wanted to be pampered, she should have done daytime.

by Anonymousreply 378February 12, 2023 3:28 PM

She did. That's why his was so good with her. No goddess worshipping.

by Anonymousreply 379February 12, 2023 3:56 PM

Read Ira Rosen’s Ticking Clock, his memoir of being a long time producers on 60 Minutes. All the correspondents were deplorable and horrible people, he pulls absolutely no punches calling the, out. I’ve lost any and all respect for the show.

by Anonymousreply 380February 12, 2023 4:43 PM

Barbra is short for Barbrassiere.

by Anonymousreply 381February 12, 2023 5:03 PM

Or someone who wears a bra at the bar, or a barbellshaped bra...

by Anonymousreply 382February 12, 2023 5:18 PM

Weren't even the women journalists like Diane Sawyer totally cutthroat?

by Anonymousreply 383February 12, 2023 5:29 PM

Shouldn't the title be "My Name is Actually BarbAra"?

by Anonymousreply 384February 12, 2023 5:34 PM

I want to see how she finesses the failed "The Normal Heart". For all her pontification about her desire for "the Truth", she repeatedly lies about her attempts to raise the money for it.

From Barbra's official website, from her official statement:

"I tried very hard to get it made, but when it became clear that we couldn’t raise the money to do it as a film due to the controversial nature of the material, I thought, all right, we’ll do it on TV. At least it would reach a wide audience. But even HBO would only pay Larry $250,000 for the rights, and he would not let it go forward for anything less than $1,000,000 and no company was willing to move on it."

From the Barbra Archives site:

"In 1996, Columbia/Tri-Star Pictures had budgeted The Normal Heart at $32 million and Streisand wanted Kenneth Branagh to star as Ned Weeks. “I had wanted certain actors to be in it,” Streisand said, “one said he would do it, but the schedule was off. It was at a time when I had just bought my new house and was trying to design it. I didn't want to be here for construction, so I thought, I'm going to do The Mirror Has Two Faces!"

She needs to shut up about "We couldn't raise the money". She had it. But as usual futzed over it and lost interest. Given her long history of taking on projects and dumping them, I suspect she may have ADD.

by Anonymousreply 385February 12, 2023 5:44 PM

But was it true about Larry asking for a million? Didn't he just want to see the movie get made and then takes points on the back end? Or did Babs get scared or bored.

by Anonymousreply 386February 12, 2023 5:52 PM

R332, I heard her response- she very much qualified what she said troll.

by Anonymousreply 387February 12, 2023 6:21 PM

She didn’t lie R385 and nothing you’ve posted indicates that she did- and you take her quotes out of context.. She tried very hard to get made and put up preproduction costs herself. Kramer by the way as you may know was notoriously difficult and demanding. He was an effective rabble rouser but impossible to work with- kicked out of both act Up and GMHC both of which his activism helped create. But he went after his peers like a maniac.

When he did get NH made by HBO, she congratulated him.

by Anonymousreply 388February 12, 2023 6:29 PM

R388=Babs

by Anonymousreply 389February 12, 2023 6:30 PM

R388 Larry is a legend, you fuck face.

by Anonymousreply 390February 12, 2023 6:39 PM

[quote] Kramer by the way as you may know was notoriously difficult and demanding.

Excuse me, bitch, R388--compared to HER???

by Anonymousreply 391February 12, 2023 6:48 PM

R110 comparing a cloned dog to a pedigreed dog is absurd. It is another one of her eccentricities. Otherwise everything else you say rings true. i wonder if much of her philanthropy that the public doesn't know will be mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 392February 12, 2023 6:58 PM

[quote]Mike Wallace INVENTED ambush TV journalism. I's what made 60 Minutes a top ten rated program. In fact, it was the number #1 rated program on TV for a long time. People loved his aggressive no bullshit interviews. If Streisand wanted to be pampered, she should have done daytime.

EXACTLY. As I said before, Barbra did her homework and knew where to go to promote the movie with her 'exclusive interview'. She was well aware of Wallace's interview style, as was everyone. SHE had a choice who to give the interview to - but she knew '60 Minutes' was the ONLY choice with 21+M viewers each week. 'The Today Show', 'Good Morning America', 'Barbara Walters Interview', 'Larry King', etc did not have the number of viewers she was looking for to promote POT. Sure she would have been pampered on those shows, but they didn't come close to giving her 21M viewers.

IF Streisand passed on Mike Wallace for that interview, he could have easily filled that slot up with Kevin Costner / Oliver Stone promoting JFK, or Warren Beatty / Barry Levinson promoting BUGSY - both films looking for big audiences for their December opening.

by Anonymousreply 393February 12, 2023 7:19 PM

She wanted a copy of her dead dog. But though she said it looked like her it had a different personality. I wonder if that disappointed her.

by Anonymousreply 394February 12, 2023 7:44 PM

[quote]IF Streisand passed on Mike Wallace for that interview, he could have easily filled that slot up with Kevin Costner / Oliver Stone promoting JFK, or Warren Beatty / Barry Levinson promoting BUGSY - both films looking for big audiences for their December opening.

And yet they went with Barbra, r394...

by Anonymousreply 395February 12, 2023 7:54 PM

^r393

by Anonymousreply 396February 12, 2023 7:54 PM

r388. :

Barbra: "We couldn’t raise the money to do it as a film due to the controversial nature of the material."

Columbia/Tri-Star Pictures budgeted The Normal Heart at $32 million.

She had the funding.

by Anonymousreply 397February 12, 2023 7:56 PM

[quote]And yet they went with Barbra,

Or Barbra went with them ? It's always been the celebrity's agent calls the show and lets them know they are available for interviews in the coming weeks/ month to push a project. Then the booking agent for the show discusses this with the producer, and they put the wheels in motion. But it's always the celebrity who makes the initial contact to them, letting them know they would like to be interviewed and are available.

This set up has been explained in so many books covering talk shows and news shows.

by Anonymousreply 398February 13, 2023 2:50 AM

Bottom line, r398, it was mutually beneficial.

by Anonymousreply 399February 13, 2023 2:54 AM

I can't believe Barbra will be 81 soon. Before Googling I thought 73ish.

I'm an older millennial and grew up in Ireland so I never knew Barbra was a gay icon. When she came to perform here the audience was middle aged, upper middle class people. The show was a disaster. It took place on the grounds of a country house (Castletown House) with poor transport links to Dublin. It's not a concert venue. It rained (shocker), the ground turned to liquid mud. These barristers and doctors walking about in plastic ponchos, mud splashing onto their khaki pants were not happy. They Karened up the radio stations for weeks after demanding compensation and refunds. My English teacher was there and said Barbra took pity on the crowd and invited them to approach and take photos during her encore! My teacher got a great close up.

Soon after I was watching some American sitcom - W&G probably - when I heard the whole Judy, Liza, Barbra, Bette thing and I was like oh really? The others I understood - I was drawn to Bette and Liza myself as a child seeing them on talk shows...Most of what I know about Barbra has come from DL threads.

Anyway, I'm rambling but I've pre-ordered the book and will have to rely on DL to get the truth behind what she will present as her truth!

by Anonymousreply 400February 13, 2023 7:58 AM

Barbra is EVERGREEN!

by Anonymousreply 401February 13, 2023 10:37 AM

From the index:

[quote]A Star is Born, 307; A certain shade of cerise, 18, 112, 118, 189, 204, 229, 286, 299, 307, 367, 388, 391, 402, 443, 453, 487, 909, 936, 989.

by Anonymousreply 402February 13, 2023 3:12 PM

I would have liked to take Mike Wallace's cigarette off his hand and put it out in his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 403February 13, 2023 3:57 PM

I would have liked to take Mike Wallace's cigarette off his hand and shove it up his ass.

Freaking homophobic piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 404February 13, 2023 5:45 PM

Is all of this Mike Wallace hatred because he upset poor little Barbra?

by Anonymousreply 405February 13, 2023 6:37 PM

R405 He was a car wash cunt.

by Anonymousreply 406February 13, 2023 6:39 PM

Did anyone ever through a glass or vase of water on Mike Wallace, or toss some spaghetti in his lap the way Dolores Gray did to Gregory Peck in the "Designing Woman" movie? Folks should have had something ready once he appeared -- he was always on the prowl to take someone down. Granted, many times it was warranted in something crooked, but for these movie star ladies -- they should have sharpened their claws just in case. He wasn't a soft Mary Sunshine interview, and they should have known it.

by Anonymousreply 407February 13, 2023 7:40 PM

throw, that is, not "through"

by Anonymousreply 408February 13, 2023 7:41 PM

[quote] Will she mention that Gregory Peck cut corners to make her an Academy member

More details please. Aren't all nominess automaticaly made members?

by Anonymousreply 409February 13, 2023 8:05 PM

Sylvia Miles threw a bowl of spaghetti on John Simon.

by Anonymousreply 410February 13, 2023 8:33 PM

Spaghetti will have to do, r410.

by Anonymousreply 411February 13, 2023 8:47 PM

That's not what Miles told Henry Alford.

"It was at O'Neals' in the back room," she told me. "I was sitting and chatting cheerfully, and just as I looked up I saw him standing at the bar. He was facing me and talking to Bob Altman. So I went to the table and filled up a plate with steak tartare, coleslaw, potato salad, and cold cuts."

Then she walked over to Simon and dumped the food on his head, saying, "Now you can call me a plate-crasher, too!"

Miles said to me, "He called me a gate-crasher! How could I crash anything? I was invited to everything! I was the Gwyneth Paltrow of the day."

The food-covered Simon lashed out at Miles, calling her "Baggage!" He said, "I'll be sending you the bill for this suit," to which Miles countered, "It'll be the first time it's been cleaned."

Miles explained to me that she had phoned the publicist of the O'Neals' event before going, to make sure that no photographers would be present. She didn't want people to think that she exacted her revenge for the publicity. She also told me that she thought Simon had been gunning for her because he knew that she had visited the city in Serbia that he hails from — Miles remembers its name as Glub-Glub — and that she thought it was a dump.

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by Anonymousreply 412February 13, 2023 8:53 PM

I was a mailboy at CBS. I delivered mail to the 60 minutes offices.

Morley Safer was always pleasant. Ed Bradley gave off mammoth straight dick vibes. The rumors were that he fucked his Asian secretary in his office every lunchtime. Harry Reasoner was quiet and drunk in his office.

Mike Wallace was very creepy, covered with deep facial acne scars and heavy Trumpiuan orange makeup. Thick shiny black shoe-polish hair. I remember his calling out loudly for Latina producer Meredith Viera "Where's that little Sp...?!"

I did not deliver mail to Dan Rather but all the behind the scenes workers on the CBS news program iked him a lot. A real gentleman. He treated everyone with graciousness.

by Anonymousreply 413February 13, 2023 9:45 PM

Meredith Viera is Portuguese, born and raised by her Portuguese parents in East Providence, RI - a mainly Portuguese community.

by Anonymousreply 414February 13, 2023 10:39 PM

R414 Does she know what a cucumber is?

by Anonymousreply 415February 13, 2023 10:41 PM

How you say...koo-com-bair?

by Anonymousreply 416February 14, 2023 1:42 AM

R416 = Hillaria Baldwin

by Anonymousreply 417February 14, 2023 1:57 AM

I hope she talks about the luncheons she had with her famous friends, like Liz Taylor and Shirley MacLaine. They would all get together every so often and have lunch and gossip, gossip, gossip. The kind of gossip that only the A+++ listers knew.

I wonder if she'll mention the alleged falling out she had with MacLaine about a decade ago. They used to be BFFs, even celebrating birthdays together, but they have been estranged for years. I'd love to know what happened between them.

by Anonymousreply 418February 14, 2023 1:59 AM

R418, Barbra and Shirley were friendly, but they were NEVER BFFs.

by Anonymousreply 419February 14, 2023 12:24 PM

Where’s the source of this alleged falling out with Shirley MacLaine?

by Anonymousreply 420February 14, 2023 12:28 PM

No asshole, R405, it's a career of cunting against "the homosexuals" and every successful woman he interviewed. There's been a list here. Do keep up.

by Anonymousreply 421February 14, 2023 12:52 PM

I'm curious how she will remember Joan Rivers, whom she had the longest 'celebrity friendship' with since they started out together in the 60s. Rivers always had kind things to say about Barbra, and very fond memories - which she said they would laugh over every time the two of them got together for dinner (which was quite frequently, according to Rivers).

by Anonymousreply 422February 14, 2023 1:08 PM

R422. Joan and Barbra were enemies until they "made up" on the red carpet after she married Brolin. I don't know where you were in the 1970-mid-1990s. Joan even made snarky remarks about Babs during an interview with Peter Bogdanovich.

When did Rivers claim she and Barbra had dinner, source? I can't see them ever socializing.

by Anonymousreply 423February 14, 2023 1:31 PM

I don't think Joan Rivers will be mentioned R422.

by Anonymousreply 424February 14, 2023 1:32 PM

She is more likely to mention Phyllis Diller.

by Anonymousreply 425February 14, 2023 1:57 PM

All this stuff about her being "enemies" with Rivers and "estranged" from MacLaine--receipts, please?

by Anonymousreply 426February 14, 2023 2:14 PM

Joan is on some talk on you tube talking about how she started out with Babs and if they meet up at some event they talk a bit about the old days. And then she made an unpleasant remark about Babs looks. It was a WTF moment for me.

by Anonymousreply 427February 14, 2023 2:23 PM

R423 When Rivers was interviewed on Larry King back in the 00s, he had asked her about her friendship with Streisand. Rivers pointed out that the two of them were friends since 1961-62, when they were first starting out and they shared the stages in NYC nightclubs (which is where they both met Phyllis Diller one night, and became lifelong friends with her).

Rivers told King that she knew Barbra long before she dropped the extra A in her name. The two of them try to get together frequently whenever they're in the same city together - whether it's NYC or LA (Rivers was living in NYC permanently at the time, and Streisand in LA). She said when they would meet in the restaurant, Rivers would hug her and say, "Is this my friend Barbra with 3 A's ?" Streisand would respond, "Is this my friend Joan Molinsky?" (she said Barbra always called her Joan Molinsky, she never called her by her stage name). Rivers said they would sit in the restaurant and laugh all night together, sharing memories and gossip. They would discuss their children and bringing them up in Hollywood, as both kids were only 13 months apart and knew each other since they could speak (Jason is older than Melissa).

When King asked Rivers if Streisand ever got offended by jokes Rivers made at her expense over the years, Rivers said 'never'. She praised Streisand for being a 'truly funny girl' with a wicked sense of humor herself. 'She gets it', Rivers told him. She said Streisand 'gets' the value of humor, and knows how to laugh at herself -it's how she became the success that she had been for decades. (She said Cher is the same way, which is why Rivers and Cher were friends since the 60s - Cher gets humor and can laugh at herself). Rivers then went on to say that 'today's younger celebrities' (I think she meant Paltrow and a few others) take themselves too seriously, and don't appreciate humor, and are too sensitive to laugh at themselves, and are boring and dull to be with.

Later on, Rivers shared a story with another interviewer, saying she had dinner with Streisand recently, and at the end of dinner Streisand reached into her handbag and pulled out tickets for her upcoming concert at MSG and invited Rivers to her show. Rivers, on cue, reached into her handbag and gave Streisand tickets to her upcoming show at a comedy club in Manhattan - same night as Streisand's concert ! The two of them both laughed, and Rivers told Streisand, 'Won't it be funny if I show up and take the stage at MSG, and you showed up at the comedy club ?"

When Rivers died in 2014 at the age of 81, Streisand tweeted a beautiful tribute to her friend, and she referred to her as 'Joan Molinsky' because that is what she always called her since they first met in the 60s (validating what Rivers said on King's show).

This BS about them being 'enemies' until they met on the red carpet after she married Brolin in 1998 is just that - pure BS. Unless you have 'receipts' to prove this BS you're conjuring up.

by Anonymousreply 428February 14, 2023 2:44 PM

Do you have a link to ANY of that, R428? Not sure who to trust on these stories.

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by Anonymousreply 429February 14, 2023 3:14 PM

r413 r414 Who is this Meredith "Viera" you speak of?

by Anonymousreply 430February 14, 2023 3:18 PM

R429 I'm not going to do your homework for you. You can probably find the King interviews in his show archives somewhere, if it matters that much.

In the meantime, feel free to share the links you must have to the contrary.

by Anonymousreply 431February 14, 2023 5:02 PM

Joan Rivers DROPED NAMES like a gumball machine. She talked all the time about how she started out and was "close friends" with Lilly Tomlin, Richard Pryor, Dick Cavett, etc. Joan was never part of their inner circle, nor Streisand's. And Streisand is not the slap on the back friend with everyone she knew way back when, or at anytime. She's more reserved and lets few people in.

[quote]Rivers said they would sit in the restaurant and laugh all night together, sharing memories and gossip.

No one wants to remember that shitty play they did together, and there was nothing else. Mark my words, IF Streisand mentions Joan Rivers in her book, it'll be in a list with others.

by Anonymousreply 432February 14, 2023 8:04 PM

[quote]When Rivers died in 2014 at the age of 81, Streisand tweeted a beautiful tribute to her friend, and she referred to her as 'Joan Molinsky'

Is there a link, R428

by Anonymousreply 433February 14, 2023 8:06 PM

R433 Google it.

by Anonymousreply 434February 14, 2023 8:11 PM

R390, I met Larry in the late 70s- his lawyer at the time was one of my best friends. He was not a nice guy although he was talented and earnest in his work- understatement. Perhaps if I had gotten to know him well I would think differently. He came on to me and when I politely rebuffed him I got a lecture on what a jerk etc I was- didn’t exactly make me want to be his friend. So… I thought it was sad the way he went after fellow activists who were every bit as devoted to their activism as he was. He would say horrible things to and about people. But he was effective because he was a good writer and his outrageousness got attention. I respected him in time but never liked him.

by Anonymousreply 435February 14, 2023 9:45 PM

I never knew this -

"Unfortunately, her story was almost complete bunkum. The play was Driftwood, not Seaweed. It contained no mention of lesbianism, as its author Maurice Tei Dunn explained in 1995. “I can’t imagine where Joan got that,” he said. “In those days, it would have been suicide in the theatre.” The women didn’t even share any scenes; the photograph of them together which Rivers included in her book was snapped during rehearsals."

Joan was full of shit until the day she died.

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by Anonymousreply 436February 14, 2023 11:39 PM

Joan Rivers played Babs’ lesbian lover in some off-off-Broadway play that only had a few performances. I think that’s where they met.

by Anonymousreply 437February 15, 2023 12:40 AM

Oh, dear! Here I am perpetuating falsehoods!!

There’s apparently no lesbian theme in the play DRIFTWOOD (Joan was a big fat liar!) and the two didn’t even have any scenes together!

And, the play ran for 6 weeks. Sorry.

I was too trusting - (signed) r437

by Anonymousreply 438February 15, 2023 12:46 AM

I own a few cottages in a resort town. A wealthy guy and his wife rented from me for a year while they were building a mansion on the lake.

We got chummy and he told me that his brother has got a huge show biz job—can’t remember if he’s a partner at a big agency or pr firm—but one of those. Anyway, Barbara is one of his firms clients. And because he’s the only one Barbara trusts at the agency, she makes him write all her Tweets for her. So this Hollywood big executive is on the horn daily with Barbara discussing what to Tweet.

by Anonymousreply 439February 15, 2023 3:42 AM

Is there some reason you insist on spelling her name that way, R439?

by Anonymousreply 440February 15, 2023 3:45 AM

I don't think it's a bad idea.

by Anonymousreply 441February 15, 2023 3:45 AM

R440, R439 is referring to the late Barbara Hale.

by Anonymousreply 442February 15, 2023 10:08 AM

I took it as Zombie Barbara Payton.

by Anonymousreply 443February 15, 2023 4:07 PM

r440 Well that IS her real name.

by Anonymousreply 444February 15, 2023 6:44 PM

So, R444? She changed the spelling. And you're decidedly not her mother.

by Anonymousreply 445February 15, 2023 7:33 PM

Oy! So the name I gave her wasn't good for her? Why does she make her mother suffer?

by Anonymousreply 446February 15, 2023 7:56 PM

No ice cream for her!

by Anonymousreply 447February 15, 2023 8:44 PM

Actually I do need to know, because she usually gives me a 5% discount at her mall.

by Anonymousreply 448February 15, 2023 8:48 PM

Will Miss Barbra get into how perturbed and nervous she was (is) that Jason does not and never did want to WORK?

by Anonymousreply 449February 15, 2023 9:14 PM

I think having her for a mother is work, R449.

by Anonymousreply 450February 15, 2023 11:28 PM

Bitch r449, trust me, she's work.

by Anonymousreply 451February 15, 2023 11:29 PM

[quote]r440 Is there some reason you insist on spelling her name that way, [R439]?

Because he is not one of her FAAAAAANS!

by Anonymousreply 452February 15, 2023 11:34 PM

Work is way way overrated. It is soul crushing and takes up all your day after which you use all your free time to recover to go and do it all over again.

by Anonymousreply 453February 16, 2023 1:30 AM

[quote] If Streisand has told a lot of truth, I hope she finally comes clean and admits she was influenced by several female singers and performers never mentioned before. On a radio show a few years ago, her sister said Barbra listened to Lena Horne. I hear it, hope she admits it along with the usual Garland plugs.

Yes, Streisand's music tutelage began under her gay boyfriend who introduced her to the music of all the great female singers and performers -- not just Garland and Horne -- but I'd be willing to bet she thinks her unique style came bellowing forth fully-formed without being influenced by anyone.

by Anonymousreply 454February 16, 2023 2:37 AM

Barbra was a big fan of Joni James. She talks about it here at 28:00.

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by Anonymousreply 455February 16, 2023 3:02 AM

Joni fuckin’ [italic]James?[/italic]

What about me??

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by Anonymousreply 456February 16, 2023 8:26 AM

R455, Joni James was Babs’ teenage and preteen listening on the radio. I think she named her as a favorite because she didn’t want anyone to DARE THINK her style was influenced by another actress who sings.

by Anonymousreply 457February 16, 2023 12:52 PM

Streisand always admitted she was a huge fan of Johnny Mathis when he came on the radio in the 1950s. She has called him the greatest male vocalist in the past, and was excited to do the duet with him in 1993. He has returned the same adoration towards her.

by Anonymousreply 458February 16, 2023 1:05 PM

If you want to know Streisand’s most important influence vocally- listen to cantor singers which of course she grew up listening to- quasi operatic with emotional dynamics in phrasing combined with vocal soaring- I call it throwing the voice belting. I’ve heard her speak of cantor singers in her childhood, but never in terms of a direct influence. She always has said that she hears in her mind what she wants to produce and then does it without much thought of how but with tremendous will to do so. Most great singers from Pavarotti to Aretha and Judy sort of come fully formed naturally- perfect vocal storms- no training.

by Anonymousreply 459February 16, 2023 1:10 PM

Good point, R455. I never thought of that before. I think her maternal grandfather was a cantor, but I could be confusing this with another singer.

by Anonymousreply 460February 16, 2023 1:37 PM

[quote]If you want to know Streisand’s most important influence vocally- listen to cantor singers

OMG! Lena Horne was a cantor?

by Anonymousreply 461February 16, 2023 1:43 PM

Where did you ever get the idea that Streisand was an observant Jew who attended Temple, R459? This may be a new idea for you, but there are many many Jewish people - then and now - who do not go to religious services and eat pork and shellfish.

Streisand did not listen to opera or to cantors. In fact, because her plan was to be an actress, singing professionally didn't occur to her. Johnny Mathis, Joni James etc. have absolutely nothing to do with her later singing style.

by Anonymousreply 462February 16, 2023 2:05 PM

R460, her grandfather was a cantor in Russia. She never knew him.

by Anonymousreply 463February 16, 2023 2:05 PM

Though a great natural talent Pavarotti as an opera singer had to have a lot of training. It would be like Nureyev having had no ballet training and just going out and dancing without ever having had taken a class. Pop singers yes, classical artists no.

by Anonymousreply 464February 16, 2023 2:27 PM

[quote]Johnny Mathis, Joni James etc. have absolutely nothing to do with her later singing style.

No one said they did, so cool your ass. It was only mentioned that growing up, these were the vocalists she admitted to listening to on the radio and admiring their talents as singers. No one said she was influenced by their singing style.

by Anonymousreply 465February 16, 2023 2:40 PM

R463

I remember going with my grandfather to Shul, listening to his beautiful voice, join the chorus of other voices, in prayer and blessing.

Those moments with my grandfather showed me the power of the human voice – to praise, to bless, to sing…to celebrate the wonders around us, and also, to call out when we see that the world is in need of repair.

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by Anonymousreply 466February 16, 2023 3:09 PM

[quote]He has returned the same adoration towards her.

Of course he did, the big queen.

by Anonymousreply 467February 16, 2023 11:58 PM

I watched Funny Girl recently. She's a natural as a comedienne. Her schmaltzy taste in songs was regrettable--she could have been one of the great ones. It was as though Judy foresaw this in the famous duet on her TV show, when Babs is belting it out and Judy takes her by the arm as though to rein her in.

by Anonymousreply 468February 17, 2023 12:15 AM

[quote]she could have been one of the great ones.

I can't stop laughing!

by Anonymousreply 469February 17, 2023 1:20 AM

[quote] she could have been one of the great ones.

I can't, either, R469! 😂😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 470February 17, 2023 2:07 AM

That’s the best title they could come up with?

by Anonymousreply 471February 17, 2023 2:34 AM

This Barbara Walters interview with Barbra and Jon Peters is so amazing! The best part starts at 8:30. I didn't realize that Barbra and Kris K. dated before ASIB.

I wish that I could have lived during the 1970s. It seems like such a fun time to have been young, beautiful and carefree. The gay men who came of age during that decade must have had a ball.

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by Anonymousreply 472February 17, 2023 3:06 AM

[quote] The gay men who came of age during that decade must have had a ball.

And then what happened to most of them, R472?

by Anonymousreply 473February 17, 2023 3:07 AM

R473 Then they had the other ball, and then the cock.

(I'm not R472)

by Anonymousreply 474February 17, 2023 8:08 PM

Anything else?

by Anonymousreply 475February 18, 2023 3:29 PM

R475 What else are you looking for ?

by Anonymousreply 476February 18, 2023 3:50 PM

And then they died, R474.

by Anonymousreply 477February 18, 2023 4:27 PM

[quote] It was as though Judy foresaw this in the famous duet on her TV show, when Babs is belting it out and Judy takes her by the arm as though to rein her in.

Oh, please. Judy was VERY competitive in duets (just ask Liza, who said her mother transformed into a very competitive non-mother when they sang together). Judy was terrified that this newer singer with the much better voice would outsing her on her own show.

by Anonymousreply 478February 18, 2023 4:36 PM

Maybe that's why, R478, Judy said on that episode, when complimenting Babs' voice, said, "I hate you!" Secretly or not so secretly, she meant it.

by Anonymousreply 479February 18, 2023 5:15 PM

Judy got in trouble for pawing, grabbing and fondling her female guests on that show - to the point where the network reprimanded her.

by Anonymousreply 480February 18, 2023 5:25 PM

Judy's voice when in prime estate wasn't inferior to Barbra's; it just that Judy had literally been fed junk for much of her life and she wasn't as good as she had been at the point.

by Anonymousreply 481February 18, 2023 11:00 PM

Barbra couldn't keep up with Merman and Judy when they sang "There's No Business Like Show Business" at the end of the episode; you can barely hear her over the other two. Maybe she wasn't trying or didn't know the words.

by Anonymousreply 482February 18, 2023 11:01 PM

Streisand clearly showed that she knew it was a campfest, R482. Her thing was not being as loud as Merman, she tried to add nuance to lyrics when singing (in other songs), an "actress who sang.:" Merman was interested in VOLUME. There was nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 483February 18, 2023 11:20 PM

Streisand coud certainly "keep up" with both of them, R482.

by Anonymousreply 484February 19, 2023 2:13 AM

When you're singing to 4,200 people in the Brooklyn Paramount without autotune the last thing anyone is thinking about is nuance.

by Anonymousreply 485February 19, 2023 3:56 AM

What I love about the Barbra/Judy/Merman clip is you can see in Barbra's eyes a look of bemused wonder/curiousity, and you get the feeling she's telling herself, "I am NOT going to end up like THIS!"

by Anonymousreply 486February 19, 2023 3:56 PM

That is what Barbra thought about her mother- who was a mermanesque type of a woman.

by Anonymousreply 487February 19, 2023 4:12 PM

R462, you don’t have to be an observant Jew to attend temple and have a solid understanding of cantor singing. Streisand to my knowledge has not acknowledged the influence public ally but she sure has acknowledged its influence in her life.

To another poster- yes Pavarotti trained a lot- bit as any biography of him has noted, he astounded from the get go, and like Streisand ang Garland, did not read music.

by Anonymousreply 488February 19, 2023 5:09 PM

Streisand sounds a bit like a synagogue cantor on her next to last syllable of her final word "parade" on the last phrase of "Don't Rain on My Parade" on the OCR. That "Pa-----" even has a bit of a interval jump after the first note, with a modal glissade which sounds like some cantors at synagogue.

by Anonymousreply 489February 20, 2023 2:23 AM

Barbra's Mom was a wannabe singer who most likely chose a life of conventionality over a career. Barbra made at least one recording with her -- she had a lovely soprano voice if I recall.

by Anonymousreply 490February 20, 2023 2:24 AM

[quote] Actually she writes quite well and has been published in quite a few newspapers- political commentary. Ever listen to her Harvard talk from the early 90’s. She’s incredibly bright and articulate.

You think she wrote that stuff herself?

Oh, [italic]honey.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 491February 20, 2023 2:27 AM
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by Anonymousreply 492February 20, 2023 2:32 AM

Who would not be? Who would not be proud of this girl?

by Anonymousreply 493February 20, 2023 2:37 AM

musical interlude

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by Anonymousreply 494February 20, 2023 8:52 AM

How old is Barbra in R492?

by Anonymousreply 495February 22, 2023 5:17 PM

Movie wise I think the book will be the following (if her interviews the last twenty years are any indication):

She will spend an inordinate amount of time on making Prince of Tides, Mirror has two faces, Yentl and Funny Girl.

The Way We Were will get a couple of pages. Mostly about how hot Redford was and how attractive he thought she was. ASIB will get a mention mainly in discussing Jon Peters.

What's Up Doc will get a page at most.

Everything else will be ignored.

by Anonymousreply 496February 22, 2023 5:47 PM

R496, she’s already said that ASIB will get several chapters.

by Anonymousreply 497February 22, 2023 6:08 PM

No way does she ignore ASIB. It was her first time taking in charge of a movie (she was co-producer, whether she got the credit or not) and made her a name to reckon with in Hollywood at a whole new level.

by Anonymousreply 498February 22, 2023 6:18 PM

[quote]r496 The Way We Were will get a couple of pages. Mostly about how hot Redford was and how attractive he thought she was.

She was livid that Redford did not want to meet her during preproduction. Then, displeased with how she looked, she had the original cinematographer fired after the first day’s rushes were shown.

by Anonymousreply 499February 22, 2023 6:20 PM

You're confused, R499. Not having Streisand and Redford meet before production was all director Sydney Pollack. He wanted them to be uneasy and not overly familiar with each other so the first similar acting scenes would come along more naturally. What Pollack seemed to forget is that he hired ACTORS for the film, not the local inexperienced town folk. Streisand and Redford would have had no problems acting their roles if they met long beforehand. Actually, they had met a few years before.

Streisand didn't ask that the cinematographer be fired. The cinematographer was Harry Stradling Jr - the son of Streisand's beloved Harry Stradling, who did Funny Girl, and she loved him. Actually, I wish he had been fired for someone better.

Peter Bogdanovich was offered The Way We Were and turned it down. I wonder how he, or anyone, would have done with the story. Not fond of Sydney Pollack.

by Anonymousreply 500February 22, 2023 7:53 PM

[quote]she’s already said that ASIB will get several chapters.

More like her romance with Jon Peters will get several chapters. Unless she wants to settle a decades long score with Frank Pierson, I can't imagine her having much to say about it. Up until the Gaga remake, all she would say about it was that she only did it so Jon could get his foot in the door of Hollywood. She had no great love for it.

by Anonymousreply 501February 22, 2023 9:22 PM

[quote]Up until the Gaga remake, all she would say about it was that she only did it so Jon could get his foot in the door of Hollywood. She had no great love for it.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT ?

I've neevr heard her say any such thing over the past 47 years. ASIB was her pride and joy - it opened her up to a whole new younger generation of fans over the past 40+ years (including me) and launched her into the peak of he career - the #1 female box office star, the reigning pop queen on the Top 40 in the 70s, etc. It did everything it was supposed to do for her.

by Anonymousreply 502February 22, 2023 9:48 PM

Variety interview, April 7, 1977:

Streisand: "I only did it so Jon could get his foot in the door of Hollywood. I have no great love for it."

by Anonymousreply 503February 22, 2023 10:45 PM

I hope she has several chapters on Hello, Dolly! Starting with losing the Tony to Carol Channing and shaking her fist in front of the James vowing to steal the film role from her.

by Anonymousreply 504February 22, 2023 11:26 PM

Curious if she is bitter about helping Peters. He really used her and took advantage of her. They split quietly but acrimoniously.

by Anonymousreply 505February 23, 2023 12:21 AM

R503 Do you have a link to the whole interview ? That sentence looks like it could be taken out of context.

by Anonymousreply 506February 23, 2023 12:29 AM

R504, I'm taking wagers that Hello Dolly doesn't get more that a very short paragraph.

by Anonymousreply 507February 23, 2023 1:13 AM

[quote] They split quietly but acrimoniously.

Really, R505? Then why is she godmother to his child?

by Anonymousreply 508February 23, 2023 1:22 AM

r29: She may have softened up for a spell.

But after his memoirs promised a lurid tell-all about his relationship with her she got her lawyers on him fast.

Hes a toxic Republican who is a Trump supporter. He's slime. And she knows it.

by Anonymousreply 509February 23, 2023 1:52 AM

She and Redford actually had an affair during the shooting of TWWW. He would took her riding on his motorcycle out to Malibu and they would have sex. I wonder if she'll talk about their affair.

by Anonymousreply 510February 23, 2023 2:50 PM

No, R510, because it never happened.

by Anonymousreply 511February 23, 2023 2:55 PM

I wonder if the printers will update this to include her winning the Justice Ruth Ginsburg Award ? I'm sure she would want that included.

by Anonymousreply 512February 23, 2023 3:58 PM

Of course that never happened, R510. The unadulterated bullshit that oozes from this thread is quite amusing.

by Anonymousreply 513February 23, 2023 8:08 PM

R506, it was sarcasm.

by Anonymousreply 514February 23, 2023 9:20 PM

Barbra did like to shtupp her leading men though. But Bob Redford was married to a lady named Lola, which is name for a fun kind of lady (unless the Lola is the pre-Mr. Applegate Lola of "Damn Yankees").

by Anonymousreply 515February 25, 2023 4:48 PM

Redford's wife Lola was a Mormon, not a stripper, R515.

Couldn't it be extremely possible that Redford DIDN'T want to shtupp Streisand? The only actress I've ever heard Redford might have had an affair with was Natalie Wood in the mid-sixties.

by Anonymousreply 516February 25, 2023 8:23 PM

Re: the DVD collection of her career history...

She stated in an interview once that "it exisits!".

I, personally, can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 517February 26, 2023 1:42 PM

Since when does a star refuse to schtupp another star because he's married? Only if he is not attracted to her does he use the I'm married excuse.

by Anonymousreply 518February 26, 2023 7:53 PM

Streisand also has a pushy personality that’s the opposite of mellow Redford’s. Undoubtedly he recoiled from her.

by Anonymousreply 519February 26, 2023 8:02 PM

True, R518. But Redford is an odd duck - very reserved and buttoned down. I find him totally sexless.

by Anonymousreply 520February 26, 2023 8:30 PM

Robert Redford redefined "narcissism"

by Anonymousreply 521February 28, 2023 6:57 PM

I think Streisand should reconsider naming her memoir to "Papa, Can You Hear Me ?" and dedicate the book to Papa.

by Anonymousreply 522March 16, 2023 9:37 PM

She could choose the last line from her #10 hit single 'Comin' In And Out Of Your Life' for the title:

'But I Can Remember...'

by Anonymousreply 523March 17, 2023 1:32 AM

R522, she’s over that - by 40 years

by Anonymousreply 524March 17, 2023 11:36 AM

The first million copies had to be recycled because it was misspelled 'Babar'.

by Anonymousreply 525March 17, 2023 1:13 PM

It will be dedicated to her whole family - parents, Jason, but most of all, Jim.

by Anonymousreply 526March 17, 2023 1:42 PM

Nice piece of Oscar memories

feat. Joan Rivers interviewing Babs on the red carpet (incl. a freudian slip by Joan- "beautifull/happy woman")

Julie Andrews and Michael Kidd

Celine performing Babs´ nominated song while Streisand went to the loo

Goldie ,Bette and Dianne presenting and arguing over Streisand vs. Streizand

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by Anonymousreply 527March 29, 2023 3:15 AM

[quote] "I cannot imagine a narrator less reliable than Barbra Streisand. Pass."

I can think of at least one, R4.

by Anonymousreply 528March 29, 2023 3:18 AM

[quote] Joan Rivers interviewing Babs on the red carpet (incl. a freudian slip by Joan- "beautifull/happy woman")

OMG, that was hilarious, R527! Joan says about Striesand and Brolin: "Maybe that will make her a good looking woman... er... a happy woman." (Around the 2:05 mark)

by Anonymousreply 529March 29, 2023 4:08 AM

Joan Rivers trashed Streisand relentlessly on her radio show in the late 1990s, even during interviews with other people. It wasn’t funny, more like hate and revenge.

by Anonymousreply 530March 29, 2023 10:30 AM

This interview was´nt available for a long time on the net.

Jane Pauley trying to go full Baba Wawa on Babs during a press junket.

At 10:21 Babs states her boundaries "Jane i swear to God....."

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by Anonymousreply 531March 30, 2023 5:35 AM

This thread shouldn’t end on ^

by Anonymousreply 532April 1, 2023 11:41 PM

Wow I just watched the interview. Barbra was PISSED at the end.

by Anonymousreply 533April 2, 2023 4:26 AM

r278's story was also in SPY in the late 80s.

by Anonymousreply 534April 2, 2023 4:42 AM

R278, why can't she simply do her business AT HOME before going to work like everyone else does?

by Anonymousreply 535April 2, 2023 2:48 PM

I lover her and will get it but I'm afraid it will be too self-important.

by Anonymousreply 536April 3, 2023 2:00 PM

My life was a filthy whirlwind as well, but I had the good taste - and good business sense - to split MY memoir into two parts.

by Anonymousreply 537April 3, 2023 2:09 PM

I was on and off for decades, and totally through with Babs after her self indulgent "wedding album" after marrying Brolin, "A Love Like Ours" in 1999. However, I think I'll buy her book in Nov. Don't know if I'll be able to get through 1,000+ pages, but I'd love to hear her defend some of her behavior, shitty movies & music, and Jon Peters. I doubt there will be much self criticism. I hope she doesn't spend six chapters on her decorating.

by Anonymousreply 538April 3, 2023 2:33 PM

[quote] I hope she doesn't spend six chapters on her decorating.

NOW you tell me!

by Anonymousreply 539April 3, 2023 5:04 PM

After the clinically depressing tour of her “dream” mill house, i don’t expect much from her memoir. It will be cold. Damply cold.

She’s not big on sharing her feelings. And when she does, they’re not engagingly universal. It’s just disappointingly… average.

by Anonymousreply 540April 3, 2023 5:48 PM

I can’t believe she narrated the audiobook and it’s 11 hours.

by Anonymousreply 541May 31, 2023 9:15 PM

I got that book on her houses at a remainder price. I was expecting so much more. What a boring book. All that money and effort to come up with an Architectural Digest reject. The woman despite her great talents has no aesthetic imagination. Certainly not in poor taste just costly mediocrity.

by Anonymousreply 542June 1, 2023 8:29 AM

"My Name is Barbra?"

Should've been Paint It White.

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by Anonymousreply 543June 1, 2023 10:05 AM

R541, I just pre-ordered the Audible audiobook and it's listed at 47 hours!

by Anonymousreply 544September 1, 2023 11:34 PM

Will Barbra's mall be redesigned to include residences and office space? Have any of the shops closed? Has Barbra's mall been subjected to the "smash and grab" robberies?

by Anonymousreply 545September 1, 2023 11:40 PM

R544 here again - I forgot to add that Audible is also taking pre-orders for another audiobook that could be interesting, although I'll wait for more information in this case. It's called Bing and Billie and Frank and Ella and Judy and Barbra and is about the artists the author names as the major interpreters of the American songbook. No price yet. I copy/pasted this info:

Written by: Dan Callahan Narrated by: Paul Bellantoni Length: 12 hrs and 58 mins Unabridged Audiobook Release date: 2023-09-05

by Anonymousreply 546September 2, 2023 12:04 AM

I just finished listening to the audiobook I mentioned in R546, "Bing and Billie and Frank and Ella and Judy and Barbra." I enjoyed most of it and it passed the time pleasantly while I took walks. The author spent a disproportionate amount of the total time singing Bing's praises, but otherwise was mostly even-handed with the time he spent on his praise and criticisms of each singer.

The one big annoyance (to me) with the book was his analysis of the performance of specific songs. He rarely mentioned pitch, phrasing, emotional input, articulation, attitude, approach, breath control, support, humour, bite, melodic improvisation, etc. All he seemed to mention, ad nauseum, was vibrato. "He ended the song with a long note with no vibrato!" (This is his highest praise. The song is therefore a big success.) "She allowed vibrato to seep into her final note!" (So, to him, the song was a failure.)

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Barbra Streisand's audiobook in November more than ever now. I'm pretty sure she won't use any vibrato when she reads.

by Anonymousreply 547September 13, 2023 9:42 PM

The promotion is gettin started. Looking forward to Babs on Howard Stern.

CBS Sunday Morning 11/5 (although Gayle King is listed instead of Rita Braver)

CBS Morning Show (11/6) - likely this is Gayle

Radio: Howard Stern (11/7). Stern does have a video component to his show, but I don't know if that's live

Radio: NPR All Things Considered (11/7) - only NY and LA airtimes listed

Radio: NPR Fresh Aire (11/9) only NY and LA airtimes listed

Colbert (11/13)

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by Anonymousreply 548November 2, 2023 10:00 PM

R478 With the much better voice? I think you mean with the better set of pipes. Babs admittedly had the set of pipes, but she never quite knew how to use the voice did she, poor thing? It's impossible to imagine her bringing down the Palladium the way Judy did. She had neither the soul nor the charisma.

by Anonymousreply 549November 6, 2023 4:33 AM

A shot of James and Barbra from the Gayle King interview.

They look cute together.

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by Anonymousreply 550November 8, 2023 12:35 AM

I will say for those who have read it it she does deliciously rip Mandy Patinkin to shreds during the Yentl chapter for his unprofessionalism and claims she almost fired him.

by Anonymousreply 551November 8, 2023 1:32 AM

I wanted to shtup her. Is that so wrong?

by Anonymousreply 552November 8, 2023 1:41 AM

I love Streisand but I fear this book will be an even more narcissistic wallow than I expected.

by Anonymousreply 553November 8, 2023 2:00 AM

She actually comes across down to earth in the book.

by Anonymousreply 554November 8, 2023 2:04 AM

How eldergay am I? Apparently a lot. I got Streisand's book and Cher's Christmas cd yesterday. In the same box.

by Anonymousreply 555November 8, 2023 9:30 PM
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