AP updates it’s style for “the” labels

The French know what they did.

Can we still say The DataLounge?

Woke is ruining everything.

People who stink.

Oops.

Thank you, THE Associated Press!

The stupid.

r7 Please ignore Kristen she's clearly part French. Or overly fond of Brie to be polite.

So the people of France….

No wait - the French people…

Ugh. Still that pesky, dehumanizing “the.”

Ok, Frogs!

What do you have against the correct use of apostrophes, OP?

[quote] AP updates it’s style

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

They're not wrong. I lived in Europe for six years. Whenever anyone used the phrase "the Americans", it was a sure sign that Yankee stereotypes were incoming.

The Facebook, the Ukraine, the dementia, the COVID…

So the AP Board is advocating for wordiness over succinctness

The diabeetus?

That seems sensible.

The gays, they die of the AIDS.

They want us to say/write - "people who are French" ?

Relou!

People who JUST HAPPEN TO BE French.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

French people?

People who identify as French.

People of the land known as France.

Or is it?

Finally! No "The"!

[quote] We recommend avoiding general and often dehumanizing “the” labels

I guess the folks at Sixt rent-a-car didn't get the message.

Instead of “the French”, say “people who surrender”.

Well played R25, I chuckled.

The sugars, r15

Oh, ffs.

From Wikipedia: People-first language is a type of linguistic prescription. It aims to avoid perceived and subconscious dehumanization when discussing people with disabilities and is sometimes referred to (for example, by NHS England's style guide) as a type of disability etiquette. People-first language can also be applied to any group that is defined by a condition rather than as a people: for example, "those that are homeless" rather than "the homeless."

Actually, the preferred term is unhoused people.

Also, "it's" is a contraction for "it is," OP..

Freedom people instead French

Not sure what R12 means. The only English-speaking Europeans are the Brits and Irish and if they were bitching about Americans, they would just say 'Americans', not 'the Americans'.

Brits call it THE menopause, like the idiots they are.

Incredibly dumb and embarrassing for THE AP.

About people with disabilities---or is that people who are differently able?

guidelines are for the retarded.

The The

They backtracked.

The only ones I understand are the ones that are stigmatizing, such as "the homeless." There's nothing dehumanizing about referring to the citizens of a country as "the French." There's no stigma associated with a college education. Honestly, this policy sounds like it was written by a college freshman who misunderstood what a stigma is.

People afflicted by frenchness.

[quote] They backtracked.

Backtracked how? They just doubled-down.

[quote] The only ones I understand are the ones that are stigmatizing, such as "the homeless."

So we should make it sound like no big deal? Jesus Christ. This is lunacy. These agencies are nothing more than propaganda machines.

I think it makes sense.

Would “the gays” be okay?

Everyone so butthurt these days.

The term 'homeless' has been replaced with 'people without homes'- cause that's really going to solve the problem.

R42 Why don’t you ask us? We’re right here on DL.

Languages are precise and they don't care what the AP thinks, nor should you.

French people and NEVER French... ugh... "folks".

Gross.

[quote]Languages are precise and they don't care what the AP thinks, nor should you.

I'm a copy editor; I have to care what they think. They've been ridiculous lately.

“People suffering from Frenchness” is the consensus alternative.

Who writes these “updates” to the AP Stylebook? Seriously. I want their names and their ages.

[quote] Languages are precise and they don't care what the AP thinks, nor should you.

The woke mob says otherwise.

Remember when they said that black has to be capitalized now? They twisted themselves into pretzels trying to explain that one, too.

We don’t believe in labels.

When translating into French will all the Le, La and L’ also now be removed?

R50, That's "a mob that is woke" to you!

The intentions, paving the way to writing style Hell, are good, I think. That a human being not be implicitly defined by a limitation---autistic boy; handicapped girl; disabled woman; homeless man---but rather as a person first---boy with autism; etc.---is almost noble.

But when "limitations" are expanded to "any adjective under the sun," then writing descriptions becomes an exercise in absurdity.

Sally Who is Long and Tall.

Joe Biden who is President.

Harry, a Prince.

[quote] So we should make it sound like no big deal? Jesus Christ. This is lunacy. These agencies are nothing more than propaganda machines.

Yes, I am saying that because I understand where they're coming from, homelessness is not a big deal. I'm glad you were able to pick up on that. You seem very smart!

Please use "ze French, hon hon hon."

"French people and NEVER French... ugh... 'folks'"

Of course not, silly; it's "French folques".

Before they were the Homeless they were Bowery Bums. Perhaps we should go back to Hobo & Tramp.

Mentally Retarded replaced the older “cruel” clinical terms Idiot, Moron and Imbecile - which now don’t sound as bad.

We can’t solve unpleasant realities so we just scapegoat slightly dated euphemisms.

Developmentally disabled replaced mentally retarded a long time ago. In fact, mentally retarded, which is an insult, is offensive.

I had a boss openly mock sensitivity training on language issues and ask, "Why should we use these terms?" The response was "Because they are part of we, and they matter as much as you do." Great moments in the public humiliation of an asshole boss.

The AP screwed up and took People First one step to far to include a nonstigmatized group. So they messed up. Most of the time, they do just fine and the changes they make follow rather than prescribe usage.

^^^^^ to far should be too far.

"People who identify as French."

Actually, I think it would be "people who were assigned French at birth."

"The snail eaters" does have a better ring to it.

an' wot abo(u)t el Spanish?

R34, that brought back memories of when I worked in city government back in the 2000s and had to work with the prickly director of the Dept on Disability. He bristled when someone incorrectly used the term "the handicapped." "They are not 'THE handicapped!'" he admonished. "They are 'people or persons who are differently abled!'" One co-worker innocently described an incoming guest as "wheelchair-bound" and got the director hot under the collar. "He is not BOUND to anything! He is a PERSON in a wheelchair! You all need sensitivity training and training in person-first language!!!" We all learned not to say too much around him lest he chew us out for the slightest linguistic faux pas.

Can't you aging fucks see the distinction between "people-first" language and cartoonish overly correct nonsense? Do you have to be offended by everything? The AP is a little off with their use of "The French" as a semi-slur, but the rest of it is reasonable. It doesn't always make sense to put the word "people/person" in front of the proper noun, but it should be in there somewhere. Or you can just be specific/simple.

Examples:

The handicapped = People with disabilities, wheelchair users, people with a visual impairment, etc.

The homosexuals = Gays and lesbians, the LGBT community, people who roast rumps, etc.

The elderly = Older adults, people of high-waisted pants, humans of advanced age and vocal complaints, etc.

The important part - which you all are missing here, in your outrage - is to remember that you're talking about PEOPLE and not animals or inanimate objects.

It's not "The Gays." It's a bunch of humans who happen to like the cock.

Mr. French

the Andrews Sisters

[quote]Do you have to be offended by everything?

Pretty funny coming from a perpetually offended zoomer.

The point, R59, is that words put in place years ago to replace older words that are deemed insulting, are, in turn, deemed insulting by the next generation.

“The terms mental retardation and mentally retarded became popular in the middle of the 20th century to replace the previous set of terms, which included "imbecile", "idiot", "feeble-minded", and "moron", among others, and are now considered offensive.”

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R71, Long time?

Promises, promises R73

Love you too, R71!