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Financier who fatally plunged from NYC rooftop bar ID’d as Connecticut dad of 3


Handsome like a Ken doll.

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by Anonymousreply 356February 5, 2023 1:40 AM

Any armchair diagnoses of what precipitated his suicide?

by Anonymousreply 1January 26, 2023 4:41 PM

Handsome! There should be a day of mourning on The DL.

by Anonymousreply 2January 26, 2023 4:42 PM

Here's a more recent picture of the 46 year old.

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by Anonymousreply 3January 26, 2023 4:44 PM

[quote] Handsome like a Ken doll.

Not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 4January 26, 2023 4:44 PM

Oh please R1, you know he was guilty of fraud or stealing from his clients or the SEC was coming after him. Does it really matter? All these little privileged white straight finance boys collapse like a bad soufflé the moment they’re called out on their bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 5January 26, 2023 4:46 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 6January 26, 2023 4:46 PM

R1 - I'm guessing impending major embezzlement charges, where he would be looking at the rest of his lfe in Hotel Fed Pen, or scandalous, gay love affair which is boyfirend is blackmailing him.

by Anonymousreply 7January 26, 2023 4:47 PM

He founded his business in Darien? How VERY. Did he step on a ping pong ball or something?

by Anonymousreply 8January 26, 2023 4:48 PM

Maybe he was very depressed. Maybe he got a terminal diagnosis. Maybe he was on drugs. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

by Anonymousreply 9January 26, 2023 5:09 PM

His wife filed for divorce recently

by Anonymousreply 10January 26, 2023 5:11 PM

Divorce. Probably knew his wife would clean him out and keep the kids.

by Anonymousreply 11January 26, 2023 5:17 PM

He had a hot portfolio but couldn’t live forever.

by Anonymousreply 12January 26, 2023 5:19 PM

I wonder if he’d done this before.

by Anonymousreply 13January 26, 2023 5:30 PM

R5, you type old, fat and bitter.

by Anonymousreply 14January 26, 2023 5:44 PM

Dale Cheney? Of the Darien Cheneys?

by Anonymousreply 15January 26, 2023 5:53 PM

He looks like the actor from Ghosts. 😲

by Anonymousreply 16January 26, 2023 5:53 PM

R10- The Dailey Fail is saying he filed for divorce from his wife a few days ago.

Anyways, I do wish these financial types would be more considerate. Every time an investor leaps insouciantly from a midtown high rise, it affects the walking commute across town of hundreds of people by at least 10 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 17January 26, 2023 5:56 PM

*Daily Fail

by Anonymousreply 18January 26, 2023 5:56 PM

I always feel for the kids in these things.

Lost my dad when I was 5; cancer sucks!

Being gay and wanting a dad merged and I got stuck. If I were a hot 25 year old blonde female, I'd have no problem finding a daddy type in his 40s and society wouldn't blink.

Alas, I haven't been that lucky.

I wish these guys would think of their kids.

by Anonymousreply 19January 26, 2023 6:02 PM

1) NYPost mentions his sprawling "apartment" in Darien and further down shows the HOUSE. Shitty writing.

2) Who kills himself the day after filing for divorce, which is usually an optimistic "I have control" move?

3) Looks gayish - like George Clooney straight looking gay - in the "recent" pic.

4) He could have held on for his kids a couple of years. Very selfish.

by Anonymousreply 20January 26, 2023 6:08 PM

5) Didn't someone jump off that building from that same bar, last year?

by Anonymousreply 21January 26, 2023 6:08 PM

[quote]Divorce. Probably knew his wife would clean him out and keep the kids.

According to the article, his kids re in their late teens and early twenties.

by Anonymousreply 22January 26, 2023 6:11 PM

Yes, r21. She’s mentioned in OP’s link.

by Anonymousreply 23January 26, 2023 6:12 PM

George Santos needs to be introduced to Bar 54.

by Anonymousreply 24January 26, 2023 6:21 PM

R3- He looks quite GAY in your photo

by Anonymousreply 25January 26, 2023 6:27 PM

Yeah he looks gay and not even particularly douchebaggy or untrustworthy. He looks very pleasant in that pic.

Oh well. RIP

by Anonymousreply 26January 26, 2023 6:29 PM

Men don't kill themselves over a divorce, even if it means financial ruin. A finance guy like him would bounce back from a divorce-driven fleecing.

Men kill themselves when a big scandal is about to erupt and/or some malfeasance is about to be exposed.

by Anonymousreply 27January 26, 2023 6:32 PM

[quote]Cheney founded T-street Capital in 2013 in Darien, Connecticut, about 40 miles northeast of Manhattan, according to public records.

An Aryan from Darien!

by Anonymousreply 28January 26, 2023 6:33 PM

Why did such hot snatch have to kill such hot snatch?

by Anonymousreply 29January 26, 2023 6:35 PM

Was he wearing a jockstrap?

by Anonymousreply 30January 26, 2023 6:39 PM

Any pics of his kids. I wonder if they are hot like daddy.

by Anonymousreply 31January 26, 2023 6:40 PM

Judging by the recent pic he couldn't deal with those crows' feet.

by Anonymousreply 32January 26, 2023 6:46 PM

That was a lot of crows' feet for a 46-year-old.

by Anonymousreply 33January 26, 2023 7:04 PM

[quote]I wish these guys would think of their kids.

You watch your stupid mouth!

by Anonymousreply 34January 26, 2023 7:18 PM

A murder of crow’s feet

by Anonymousreply 35January 26, 2023 7:21 PM

Good job he didn't take anyone out when he landed.

by Anonymousreply 36January 26, 2023 7:25 PM

That's one hell of a drop. That wasn't a cry for help that was I'm going and I'm not coming BACK!

by Anonymousreply 37January 26, 2023 7:31 PM

DL EMTs, what's the splatter factor on a drop like that?

by Anonymousreply 38January 26, 2023 7:32 PM

I always feel bad for people that do this because half way down they wish they hadn't done it. (according to those that have survived such things)

If we knew why there was going to be a divorce it would probably answer most of the questions as to why

by Anonymousreply 39January 26, 2023 7:33 PM

I agree with R27. Financial shenanigans or something similar were about to be exposed.

by Anonymousreply 40January 26, 2023 7:36 PM

Always interesting how some people seemingly have it all and are so unhappy and depressed. This guy had a life that most people would envy but he hated himself.

by Anonymousreply 41January 26, 2023 7:37 PM

He actually looks better in the recent photo. The crows feet are fine.

by Anonymousreply 42January 26, 2023 7:37 PM

Why couldn't he go into the Connecticut woods and shoot himself? He traumatized so many people with this public display.

by Anonymousreply 43January 26, 2023 7:41 PM

Recently divorced ? That means gay love affair he didn't want anyone knowing about, but the twink in his office was coming forward.

by Anonymousreply 44January 26, 2023 7:51 PM

Did his HAF twink lover graduate from "Hot Kiss" and Yale?

by Anonymousreply 45January 26, 2023 7:53 PM

Honestly, these days r43 I'm just glad he didn't shoot up the place and then shoot himself. Taking your own life, and only your own life, instead of killing a bunch of strangers for some fucking imaginary grievance is actually kind of thoughtful. Almost quaint.

by Anonymousreply 46January 26, 2023 7:58 PM

It is my lucky day, for I have achieved a first for me on DL. I get to say those iconic words, "But what was on his iPod?"

by Anonymousreply 47January 26, 2023 8:18 PM

Sorry, honey. They don’t make iPods anymore.

by Anonymousreply 48January 26, 2023 8:21 PM

I feel for the pedestrians on the sidewalk who saw him splatter at 6:30 PM on a Wednesday. That would stick with you for a long time. It's quite a selfish act, as he could have killed people below.

by Anonymousreply 49January 26, 2023 8:34 PM

^ LOL. Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 50January 26, 2023 8:36 PM

R50 was for R48. xo.

by Anonymousreply 51January 26, 2023 8:36 PM

he lost everything, so he jumped. he isn't the first and won't be the last. many men in finance jump off buildings...quite common actually

by Anonymousreply 52January 26, 2023 8:44 PM



by Anonymousreply 53January 26, 2023 8:44 PM

"Suspected suicide"?

Why not 'suspected Russians'?

by Anonymousreply 54January 26, 2023 8:45 PM

What an attention whore

by Anonymousreply 55January 26, 2023 8:45 PM

You can bet his clients are frantically calling his firm to check on their account balances.

by Anonymousreply 56January 26, 2023 8:51 PM

At this rate you'd think the bar would have a commemorative drink. The Bar 52 Plunge or something.

by Anonymousreply 57January 26, 2023 8:59 PM

52 is a total dive bar.

by Anonymousreply 58January 26, 2023 9:01 PM

My son!

by Anonymousreply 59January 26, 2023 9:11 PM

He could of jumped into my bed

by Anonymousreply 60January 26, 2023 9:17 PM

[quote] Why couldn't he go into the Connecticut woods and shoot himself? He traumatized so many people with this public display.

Pathological narcissist, like every other finance bro.

by Anonymousreply 61January 26, 2023 9:19 PM


by Anonymousreply 62January 26, 2023 9:26 PM

R60 Oh dear!

by Anonymousreply 63January 26, 2023 9:31 PM

[quote] Men kill themselves when a big scandal is about to erupt and/or some malfeasance is about to be exposed.

Men also Jill themselves due to mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 64January 26, 2023 9:31 PM

Good looking guy. I cannot imagine the internal conflict that would drive someone to commit suicide. It must be horrible.

by Anonymousreply 65January 26, 2023 9:37 PM

And size meat verificatia?

by Anonymousreply 66January 26, 2023 9:45 PM

[quote] Men kill themselves when a big scandal is about to erupt and/or some malfeasance is about to be exposed.

This sounds like the most likely issue - money.

Either he did a Madoff kind of thing, or the expensive house and life were far beyond his means. The divorce may have been an escape he thought would work, but it could be that he realized that with alimony and his financial issues he'd have nothing.

by Anonymousreply 67January 26, 2023 10:06 PM

Sad, sad, sad.

by Anonymousreply 68January 26, 2023 10:27 PM

Jumping off a very tall building seems like a horrible way to kill yourself. As someone upthread said, I’d imagine you’d instantly regret it once you’re in the air. Then all the stuff that goes through your mind as you fall, including the fast approaching concrete.

by Anonymousreply 69January 26, 2023 11:07 PM

Agreed R69.

by Anonymousreply 70January 26, 2023 11:12 PM

Maybe he was part Russian they're always jumping off tall buildings I hear.

by Anonymousreply 71January 26, 2023 11:21 PM

I don't know that money or a club fed visit prompted this. He either had behavioral health issues coupled with a terminal diagnosis or a major felony, possibly something involving young women/men or possible illicit child content discovered on a computer.

A guy this young divorcing isn't surprising. In CT alimony is kept quite tight by the courts and if she worked there's a chance she'd only be getting child support. CT isn't the state you want to divorce in. But he'd find a gorgeous, smart, younger woman, hell, he could've been a murderer and on looks alone women would still be throwing themselves at him.

This is more than a divorce and financial acrimony.

by Anonymousreply 72January 26, 2023 11:39 PM

^ Everything but the kitchen sink!

by Anonymousreply 73January 26, 2023 11:46 PM

R72’s story had everything but the bloodhounds nippin’ at his heels!

by Anonymousreply 74January 27, 2023 12:06 AM

Maybe he was drunk and didn't realize what he was doing ?

by Anonymousreply 75January 27, 2023 1:28 AM

My friend’s brother in law shot himself in the head a few days after Christmas. The house was filled with family (including his children and his 87 year old mother). He was 54. My friend was the one who found him upstairs after the shot was heard. He said he had never seen so much blood in his life. No one knows why.

by Anonymousreply 76January 27, 2023 2:21 AM

[quote]He said he had never seen so much blood in his life. No one knows why.

Probably the bullet wound.

by Anonymousreply 77January 27, 2023 2:42 AM

Head wounds do tend to bleed a lot.

by Anonymousreply 78January 27, 2023 2:53 AM

That kind of desperation is scary.

by Anonymousreply 79January 27, 2023 2:59 AM

Money, scandel, divorce, illness etc...whatever... Someone who does that is mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 80January 27, 2023 3:05 AM

What did he know?

Do I need to diversify my portfolio?

Should I consider investing in precious metals?

Does anyone know a good bullion dealer?

by Anonymousreply 81January 27, 2023 3:12 AM

[R80] Yes, this is true. But they are 'normal' enough to leave a suicide note on a yellow post-it-note, asking that her daughter be kept away from her funeral because the daughter is mentally ill. That takes cajones the size of Texas.

by Anonymousreply 82January 27, 2023 3:13 AM

Rough calculation of the physics.

Speed at impact: 48.50 m/s or 174.59 km/h or 108 miles mph

Time until impact: 4.95 s

Energy at impact: 105840.00 joules

by Anonymousreply 83January 27, 2023 3:27 AM

I feel bad for his kids, and the people who witnessed it. Also glad that no one else got hurt. Unless it was some kind of psychotic break, and he wasn't really aware of what he was doing, jumping off of midtown building at 6:30 p.m. on a Wednesday night is just fucking selfish.

by Anonymousreply 84January 27, 2023 3:31 AM

Fuck the people who saw him do this.

Ever think about how I feel?

by Anonymousreply 85January 27, 2023 3:40 AM

I believe a fall at that height means the human body is like an overripe watermelon when it hits the ground. Just a big giant puddle with some chunks in it.

I agree with the other posters about how selfish it is to do this where people can witness it and be traumatized for the rest of their lives. A friend of mine once saw a woman get hit by a car, her head cracked open and her brains were all over the street. He still has nightmares about it and this happened many, many years ago.

by Anonymousreply 86January 27, 2023 3:56 AM

R83 Thanks for the physics.

You would not want to be under him when he landed.

by Anonymousreply 87January 27, 2023 9:50 AM

Do people in their right mind jump off of buildings? That’s REALLY extreme.

by Anonymousreply 88January 27, 2023 11:09 AM

[quote]Men also Jill themselves

Does it involve a bucket and a hill?

by Anonymousreply 89January 27, 2023 11:25 AM

He looked hotter in the most recent photo.

by Anonymousreply 90January 27, 2023 11:44 AM

[quote] fatally plunged from NYC rooftop bar

Died of natural causes

by Anonymousreply 91January 27, 2023 11:46 AM

No, he died of Covid.

by Anonymousreply 92January 27, 2023 11:58 AM

Did he close out his tab before leaving?

by Anonymousreply 93January 27, 2023 12:25 PM

R1, silly- many possible reasons, and the divorce filing part of the whole. But we can’t know.

by Anonymousreply 94January 27, 2023 12:50 PM

There really should be consideration of suicide decks on buildings that are well-designed and have landing areas that will not impact traffic or pedestrians.

by Anonymousreply 95January 27, 2023 1:47 PM

It's sad when there's no warning so people don't get the thrill of yelling, "Jump!"

by Anonymousreply 96January 27, 2023 1:53 PM

Well, at least he passed on his genes for good looks before he made the dive.

by Anonymousreply 97January 27, 2023 1:54 PM

R95 Just a flat place to catch all the suicidal bankers before they hit the sidewalk? Who's cleaning that up? Will it have bullseyes painted on it?

by Anonymousreply 98January 27, 2023 2:19 PM

Are they sure he jumped? He had just filed for divorce from his wife recently.

by Anonymousreply 99January 27, 2023 2:40 PM

R99 - his wife filed

by Anonymousreply 100January 27, 2023 2:47 PM

R49, Especially if they were wearing white.

by Anonymousreply 101January 27, 2023 2:58 PM

[quote]Did he close out his tab before leaving?

They close it out for you and add a 20% tip.

by Anonymousreply 102January 27, 2023 6:16 PM

Selfish fuck! 45th street is heavily-trafficked it is a miracle he didn't kill someone when he splashed down.

by Anonymousreply 103January 27, 2023 6:42 PM

[quote]OP: Handsome like a Ken doll.

A tragedy.

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by Anonymousreply 104January 27, 2023 6:44 PM

R103, Hey, it happens.

by Anonymousreply 105January 27, 2023 6:52 PM

What is the terminal velocity of an investment banker?

by Anonymousreply 106January 27, 2023 7:48 PM


by Anonymousreply 107January 27, 2023 7:48 PM

4.95 seconds doesn’t leave a lot of time for second thoughts.

by Anonymousreply 108January 27, 2023 7:50 PM

It probably feels like half an hour.

by Anonymousreply 109January 27, 2023 7:54 PM

R88 my friend’s mother was having lunch out with friends, excused herself from the table to go to the restroom and went to the top floor of the parking garage and jumped. Her friends said she seemed perfectly normal at lunch. You just never know what’s going on in someone else’s head.

by Anonymousreply 110January 27, 2023 7:55 PM

if you saw that, you would have nightmares.

My brother saw something similar, he saw a man jump in front of the subway and the mess afterwards. He couldn't eat for 2 weeks.

by Anonymousreply 111January 27, 2023 8:26 PM

Wow! The subway diet, R111

by Anonymousreply 112January 27, 2023 9:04 PM

He was distraught that he wasn't able to book a table at HAGS for Valentines Day.

by Anonymousreply 113January 27, 2023 9:10 PM

At least he didn't do it at Disneyland.

by Anonymousreply 114January 27, 2023 9:34 PM

[quote]Financier who fatally plunged from NYC rooftop bar

Times Square will do that to a person.

by Anonymousreply 115January 27, 2023 9:40 PM

I heard there's a fair amount of plunging in the back men's room at Club 54 (aka "NYC rooftop bar"). But nothing to die over.

by Anonymousreply 116January 27, 2023 10:51 PM

Law enforcement sources told The Post that police were called to his former Upper East Side home twice in 2008 over domestic disputes with his wife. One of the arguments was over finances.

Final score: Pig 0 Whore 1

by Anonymousreply 117January 27, 2023 11:10 PM

R59, Icarus WAS the son. Did you mean to sign yourself "Daedalus"?

by Anonymousreply 118January 27, 2023 11:19 PM

A high earner who fights with his wife and projects a perfect exterior? This guy was already a Law & Order archetype. If he didn’t leap, he’d have pushed her or he’d be a secret serial killer or something. It’s always something.

by Anonymousreply 119January 27, 2023 11:54 PM

[quote]Police said Cheney's death appears to be a suspected suicided, but said the Office of the Medical Examiner will officially determine the cause of death. The New York medical examiner has not responded about whether Cheney's autopsy has been completed.

[quote][bold]Cheney was facing two misdemeanor criminal charges stemming from a domestic incident at his Old Stamford Road home on Jan. 16, records show.[/bold]

[quote]New Canaan police said they were called to Cheney's home around 3:40 p.m. that day for a domestic dispute. Police said the dispute involved "Cheney and another occupant of the residence."

[quote]A police report describing the incident was not immediately available on Friday. But a brief summary of the incident provided by police said [bold]Cheney was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief and disorderly conduct. He was released on $25,000 bond[/bold] and did not enter a plea when he appeared in state Superior Court in Stamford the next day, records show.

[quote]Stamford court records show Cheney's wife obtained a restraining order the day after his arrest.


[quote]Records show [bold]Cheney filed for divorce from his wife on Jan. 23, two days before he was found dead[/bold] in New York City.

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by Anonymousreply 120January 27, 2023 11:57 PM

[quote]Cheney's death appears to be a suspected [bold]suicided[/bold]


I know it's a typo but what it's not?

by Anonymousreply 121January 28, 2023 12:01 AM


by Anonymousreply 122January 28, 2023 12:05 AM

[quote]Why couldn't he go into the Connecticut woods and shoot himself? He traumatized so many people with this public display.

R43, maybe he had to do it before he lost his nerve. Or, maybe he did it publicly so people would know he was dead. People disappear all the time, there is no guarantee someone would find his body in the woods or another remote location. Some life insurance policies cover suicide, given his financial situation it sounds like his wife and kids could use the money, it’s a backward way of thinking but someone who jumps off a rooftop isn’t in their right mind.

[quote]He actually looks better in the recent photo. The crows feet are fine.

Agreed, R42.

by Anonymousreply 123January 28, 2023 12:18 AM

My boyfriend knew a guy who called his wife and law enforcement from a location just a few feet off a rural road but not close enough to be seen by anybody in a passing car.

It had a familiar marker so they knew where to find him. He told them where he would be.

He took out a gun and shot himself to death.

No "look at me". No ruining anybody's day, not even his wife's.

My boyfriend said he heard from mutual friends that the guy had been diagnosed with cancer and was only expected to live another 6 months and that his wife knew he may have been thinking about going sooner rather than later.

by Anonymousreply 124January 28, 2023 12:30 AM

If he was solid MAGA, perhaps he was still distraught over the passing of Diamond of Diamond & Silk.

by Anonymousreply 125January 28, 2023 1:24 AM

I wonder if he was on LSD or shrooms and thought he could fly?

by Anonymousreply 126January 28, 2023 1:27 AM

Close friends are saying he was very upset over the Oscar nominations.

by Anonymousreply 127January 28, 2023 1:37 AM

Well, who could blame him? I mean really.

by Anonymousreply 128January 28, 2023 1:39 AM

Maybe he didn't want to live in a world that no longer had Lisa Marie Presley.

by Anonymousreply 129January 28, 2023 1:41 AM

He should have started an Onlyfans page. So many gays would have subscribed to this hot daddy.

by Anonymousreply 130January 28, 2023 1:45 AM

R129 You're terrible, Muriel. Come sit by me.

by Anonymousreply 131January 28, 2023 1:47 AM

[quote][R1] - I'm guessing impending major embezzlement charges, where he would be looking at the rest of his lfe in Hotel Fed Pen, or scandalous, gay love affair which is boyfirend is blackmailing him.

Either white collar crime or the wife was cheating and going to take everything in the divorce. She filed for divorce, and he was going to have to fund her and her affair partner's lifestyle.

[quote]Law enforcement sources told The Post that police were called to his former Upper East Side home twice in 2008 over domestic disputes with his wife. One of the arguments was over finances.

by Anonymousreply 132January 28, 2023 2:10 AM

From R120:

[quote]Cheney was facing two misdemeanor criminal charges stemming from a domestic incident at his Old Stamford Road home on Jan. 16, records show.


[quote]a brief summary of the incident provided by police said [bold]Cheney was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief and disorderly conduct.[/bold]


[quote]Records show [bold]Cheney filed for divorce from his wife[/bold] on Jan. 23, two days before he was found dead in New York City.

by Anonymousreply 133January 28, 2023 2:26 AM

R132 that's not how alimony works though. Cheating would null that and they can only pay under specific circumstances -- depending on state, you have to be married a minimum of so many years, they go by income of spouse, so if they work, that's accounted for, etc. I'm not sure where this idea came from that being married automatically grants alimony, let alone a high alimony.

I'm NYS you must be married a minimum of 10 years and you still have to justify receiving alimony, especially if there's no children or the children are legal adults. They also cap how long you get it. I could only see it being justified for a spouse that gave up a career to raise children for 18 yrs and has no decent income, so they aren't left homeless.

by Anonymousreply 134January 28, 2023 2:32 AM

"For marriages from 0 to 15 years, it is 15-30% of the duration of the marriage. If you've got a 10-year marriage, it would be 1.5 to 3 years of maintenance. If you have a 15-20-year marriage, it is 30-40% of the duration of the marriage. And more than 20 years, it is 35-50% of the duration of the marriage.".

They also account for splitting assets, like the house. I know plenty of divorced women that didn't get shit if they 1) had a job 2) weren't married for a long time 3) recieved a lot from assets. Again, it's only to prevent a spouse from being immediately fucked financially if the relationship was with the mutually understanding one doesn't make much (say a wife that does everything, cooks, cleans, etc., Which allows a husband to be a more successful breadwinner.)

Point is; if men are killing themselves over paranoia with alimony, they should probably look into it before jumping, instead of believing internet gossip that every divorce leads to financial ruin.

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by Anonymousreply 135January 28, 2023 2:38 AM

[quote]Connecticut banker, 46, jumps to his death from NYC rooftop bar

Think of all the people who, hoping to somehow save their own lives, were horrifically forced to finally jump to their deaths on 9/11. Such people in such moments would never understand someone deliberately doing it. Nor do I.

Suicide is so strange.

by Anonymousreply 136January 28, 2023 2:38 AM

[quote]R9 Maybe he was very depressed. Maybe he got a terminal diagnosis. Maybe he was on drugs. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Maybe it was a sham marriage!

by Anonymousreply 137January 28, 2023 2:56 AM

[quote]R88 Do people in their right mind jump off of buildings? That’s REALLY extreme.

Well, it doesn’t require a gun, pills, or elaborate pre-planning. It’s thorough - for when you don’t want to be revived.

by Anonymousreply 138January 28, 2023 3:02 AM

Has the wife started a GoFundMe?

by Anonymousreply 139January 28, 2023 4:22 AM

[quote]Well, it doesn’t require a gun, pills, or elaborate pre-planning. It’s thorough - for when you don’t want to be revived.

It definitely can't be categorized as a "cry for help."

by Anonymousreply 140January 28, 2023 7:33 AM

Were his last words along the lines of, "I'm doing this for you, Damien."

by Anonymousreply 141January 28, 2023 7:58 AM

R138, Think of it as parachuting without a parachute.

by Anonymousreply 142January 28, 2023 9:43 AM

It always amazes me the jumpers don't inadvertently kill people on the ground by landing on them. Do the people on the ground hear a scream? Is there enough time to get out of the way?

by Anonymousreply 143January 28, 2023 10:55 AM

R143, Shit happens.

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by Anonymousreply 144January 28, 2023 11:22 AM

R144 Everything but the pot of geraniums falling from Kitty's apartment!

by Anonymousreply 145January 28, 2023 11:32 AM

Hotel jumping is common to certain locations although rarely publicized because that would tarnish the brand name. I heard of one at DFW airport has an average of one a week. Hotel employees refer to them as "jumpers".

by Anonymousreply 146January 28, 2023 12:22 PM

Suicide is often impulsive.

by Anonymousreply 147January 28, 2023 12:32 PM

The Marriott Marquis in Times Square had to redesign its interior because so many guests were jumping to their deaths inside the building.

by Anonymousreply 148January 28, 2023 4:02 PM

Of course R118......no more posting after vodka time. I should remember my own rule.

by Anonymousreply 149January 28, 2023 4:09 PM

We had a building in the city I lived in where people would jump off of. The only problem was that below was a hotel. One day a guy with money troubles jumped and went straight through the roof of the hotel onto the ballroom floor, whilst there was a wedding reception on!

by Anonymousreply 150January 28, 2023 4:16 PM

R14 Uh huh. And if you're young, hot, and happy, you're not on DL.

by Anonymousreply 151January 28, 2023 4:25 PM

[qupte] I wonder if he was on LSD or shrooms and thought he could fly?

Maybe he was reenacting his favorite TV movie film with Helen Hunt to the delight of his dining guests, but chose the wrong place to do it.

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by Anonymousreply 152January 28, 2023 4:26 PM

R150 Very à propos. "In the midst of life, we are in death."

by Anonymousreply 153January 28, 2023 4:28 PM

R150, That’s a true wedding crasher.

by Anonymousreply 154January 28, 2023 4:29 PM

Lol. You guys!

by Anonymousreply 155January 28, 2023 4:31 PM

None of the WASPs in finance seem happy despite having it all. He does give closet case vibes, hooking up with guys on Grindr or Sniffies and then drinking away the guilt. His wife probably found out and got sick of it and filed for divorce.

by Anonymousreply 156January 28, 2023 4:31 PM

R156, HE FILED!!!

by Anonymousreply 157January 28, 2023 4:37 PM

Christ, those poor kids. My dad died when I was 5 and every time something came up -- father's day, father/son pancake breakfasts, teachers asking what does your dad do for a living -- I just wanted to fucking die.

Don't have kids if you're not in it for the long haul.


by Anonymousreply 158January 28, 2023 4:43 PM

R148 Several Marriott Marquis properties (Times Square and Atlanta, especially) are known for their massive interior atria.

In the 1970s and 1980s, Hyatt did the same with many of its landmark Regency hotels. The Hyatt Regencies in Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, Atlanta, and other cities all have massive atrium features that are both striking and unsettling to modern-day visitors. The Hyatt Regency in Kansas City (since sold) had a famous atrium with walkways suspended over the lobby floor. They collapsed during a tea dance in 1981, killing over a hundred people and putting a real damper on the whole "Logan's Run" indoor aesthetic.

by Anonymousreply 159January 28, 2023 4:50 PM

R159, here's a good history of that event.

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by Anonymousreply 160January 28, 2023 5:01 PM


Look at the fabric flair in his gray hair picture

by Anonymousreply 161January 28, 2023 5:03 PM

[quote]None of the WASPs in finance seem happy despite having it all.

Nobody in finance PERIOD seems happy, regardless of their ethnicity. It's a high pressure, cutthroat business full of people with severe personality disorders.

by Anonymousreply 162January 28, 2023 5:06 PM

I think he wanted to “show her.”

by Anonymousreply 163January 28, 2023 5:34 PM

R156 I was wondering how long it would be before someone suggested that he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 164January 28, 2023 5:45 PM


by Anonymousreply 165January 28, 2023 5:47 PM

From the article at R144: "Arlene Francis, once the star of stage, movies, radio, and later on TV, is mostly forgotten today."

Obviously this wasn't written by a DL-er.

by Anonymousreply 166January 28, 2023 5:53 PM

R166, And not just because she starred in the legitimate theatre.

by Anonymousreply 167January 28, 2023 5:58 PM

yet Keanu still walks among us....

by Anonymousreply 168January 28, 2023 6:00 PM

[quote]Do the people on the ground hear a scream? Is there enough time to get out of the way?

Perhaps the jumper should yell, "HEADS UP!"

by Anonymousreply 169January 28, 2023 6:02 PM

At this point, people walking by that hotel are on notice.

by Anonymousreply 170January 28, 2023 6:17 PM

They're going to have to do something about that open balcony or they'll get even more suicides.

by Anonymousreply 171January 28, 2023 6:23 PM

Perhaps a tactful “Please do not jump” sign?

by Anonymousreply 172January 28, 2023 6:25 PM

He's so gay, my God! If we were in the early seasons of Will & Grace, he would have been the successful, handsome guy Will crushes on, only to have to renounce him when he finds out how closeted he still is.

by Anonymousreply 173January 28, 2023 6:27 PM

why do some these hot daddies let women get to them this much? just find a gay hoe to make you happy!

by Anonymousreply 174January 28, 2023 6:48 PM

He sure is handsome @r3, but gay men don't have a habit of repeated violence against their wives. I'm betting that he was involved with a major financial scandal and was paying for prep school and Ivy League tuition for his FIVE kids, and household staff, in addition to the wife's spending habit. Both parents probably narcissists. Poor rich kids - but not rich anymore.

by Anonymousreply 175January 28, 2023 6:56 PM

He had FIVE kids!?

by Anonymousreply 176January 28, 2023 7:20 PM

[quote]He had FIVE kids!?

Obviously he was over-compensating for the fact that he was gay.

by Anonymousreply 177January 28, 2023 7:24 PM

[quote]Any armchair diagnoses of what precipitated his suicide?

It wasn't raining. I remember because my bus was late that night.

by Anonymousreply 178January 28, 2023 7:41 PM

[quote]Any armchair diagnoses of what precipitated his suicide?


As in his rendition of "raining men"?

by Anonymousreply 179January 28, 2023 7:43 PM

It’s Raining Men should’ve been the thread title.

by Anonymousreply 180January 28, 2023 7:46 PM

R174, isn’t that like saying, “Why do some of these hot gay daddies let men get to them this much? Just find a nice girl to make you happy!”

by Anonymousreply 181January 28, 2023 7:51 PM

Except "It's Raining Man" sounds like something you put "Burning Man" out with.

Pardon my English, please.

by Anonymousreply 182January 28, 2023 7:51 PM

There's a three level mall in my city which opened 25 years ago. A friend of mine was an undercover cop in the mall, who mingled in with security for the first twenty years. (Security could not arrest anyone for any crime, but he could). Anyhow, he had told me no one would believe the number of suicides which happened at that mall on a regular basis, since the press would not report it and give bad press to the mall. Most of them happened late at night, when the multiplex theater was still open, but all the stores were closed - so many jumpers from the third floor. Aside from that, so many ODs in the restrooms - in the common areas and the department stores. It was rather shocking.

by Anonymousreply 183January 28, 2023 7:58 PM

Five kids? Isn't that kind of un-WASPy?

by Anonymousreply 184January 28, 2023 7:59 PM

R163 nails it. Since this suicide happened during a divorce involving spousal abuse, the suicide was likely another type of abuse to the surviving spouse--a kind of well, you think you're moving on and getting on with life, "I'll show you." Essentially, in killing himself, he was attempting to punish her by hurting her and the children and to imply he was the one in the most pain and therefore not the abusive one. Sick thinking, but some suicides are spiteful, attempting to damage family.

by Anonymousreply 185January 28, 2023 9:22 PM

[quote]Hotel employees refer to them as "jumpers".

Gee, how original. I wonder how they ever came up with that name.

by Anonymousreply 186January 28, 2023 9:23 PM

[quote](Security could not arrest anyone for any crime, but he could).

Off topic, but anyone in the US can arrest another person, regardless of their profession. It’s called a citizen’s arrest.

by Anonymousreply 187January 28, 2023 9:24 PM

I’m convinced a long, slow, deep rimming might have made him think twice about taking a header.

by Anonymousreply 188January 28, 2023 9:34 PM

Image is the most important thing to these types of people. Having control and projecting an aura of perfection and superiority. Once that illusion is shattered in the case of a divorce or big scandal coming out. Suicide becomes very attractive and a sign of getting the last laugh. And many of these WASPy types are not that wealthy anymore but a dying class that insist on riding off their name and living beyond their means.

by Anonymousreply 189January 28, 2023 10:04 PM

R185, that is a good description of a suicide I heard about.

by Anonymousreply 190January 28, 2023 10:15 PM

Hmm... he was really quite handsome.

Oh, well.

by Anonymousreply 191January 28, 2023 10:17 PM

R184 His last name is Cheney and he's from New Canaan, Connecticut and his career and alpha meter (Harvard) just screams New England WASP. He even has the stereotypical look. His wife I don't know. It's a dying class and many marry outside now. He likely was living beyond his means. Also many men get off on having many kids to prove their virility. His suicide seemed spiteful.

by Anonymousreply 192January 28, 2023 10:17 PM

[quote]And many of these WASPy types are not that wealthy anymore but a dying class that insist on riding off their name and living beyond their means.

Dear god here we go with DLs WASP fantasy world. WASPs in 2023 are just "white people" now. The "WASP culture" you worship is pretty much extinct except for some old people. Darien CT hasn't been "WASP" in at least two generations. Lots of white ethnics, Jews and Asians. FFS the first selectman (mayor) of Greenwich is Italian.

This man worked in finance, he wasn't some blue blooded trust fund type. He was most likely working rich and had no generational $$$$.

by Anonymousreply 193January 28, 2023 10:18 PM

[quote]his career and alpha meter (Harvard)

His what now?

by Anonymousreply 194January 28, 2023 10:19 PM

[quote]His last name is Cheney and he's from New Canaan, Connecticut

I'm from CT and I've known working class people with the last name Cheney.

by Anonymousreply 195January 28, 2023 10:21 PM

[quote]his career and alpha meter (Harvard)

r192, his alpha meter makes me moist!

by Anonymousreply 196January 28, 2023 10:21 PM

The only violent boyfriends I've ever had were deeply closeted alpha types who could not handle the fact that they were gay. And pissed at me (and most other women) because we couldn't make them straight

by Anonymousreply 197January 28, 2023 10:22 PM

R193 I've seen plenty of young people who embrace their WASPiness . They obviously aren't the ruling class anymore and haven't been since the 1960s (they got eclipsed by Gilded Age industrialists of various European ancestries and entrepreneurs and now hedge fund billionaires of all racial backgrounds). But their culture still exists even if it's fading away. Visit an Episcopalian or Anglican or Unitarian church or Ivy League. Wes Anderson and movies embody a lot of WASP ideals.

by Anonymousreply 198January 28, 2023 10:23 PM

r198 there are lots of people who embrace that lifestyle. Come to CT and you'll see people from all sorts of backgrounds who live a pseudo-WASPy lifestyle but it isn't the same thing that DL thinks of.

by Anonymousreply 199January 28, 2023 10:25 PM

R199 Good point. It makes sense when they controlled a lot of cultural values in that region that people of all backgrounds would appropriate it. But the funny thing is many WASPs wanted that anyway due to their history with local politics, social reforms and civil service.

by Anonymousreply 200January 28, 2023 10:29 PM

that sounds right, R163.

A guy I knew killed himself and I think that was part of it. he wanted to show her.

by Anonymousreply 201January 28, 2023 10:30 PM

He's fine. They had essential oils on site. Thank god for tea tree!

by Anonymousreply 202January 28, 2023 10:30 PM

Other reports are saying he had three kids, not five, and they are all adults.

by Anonymousreply 203January 28, 2023 10:33 PM

Buck never would have jumped from a bar on the 54th floor.

by Anonymousreply 204January 28, 2023 10:33 PM

Did he have halitosis? That might explain it.

by Anonymousreply 205January 28, 2023 10:36 PM

Arlene Francis playing herself, a talk show hostess, on ATWT in January 1986 with 'Simply' Barbara herself.

circa 10:45

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by Anonymousreply 206January 28, 2023 10:36 PM

This has been mentioned by multiple people in this thread but apparently it bears repeating:

[quote]Cheney’s death came one day after [bold]he filed for divorce[/bold] from his wife, Lauren Cheney, Connecticut court records show.

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by Anonymousreply 207January 28, 2023 10:37 PM

I wonder if he left a suicide note.

by Anonymousreply 208January 28, 2023 10:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 209January 28, 2023 10:42 PM

R208, I wonder if he paid his bar tab.

by Anonymousreply 210January 28, 2023 11:09 PM

The reason he looks better, gayer, kinder in R3's photo is that it's A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUY. That photo is from a defunct LinkedIn profile or connected with someone else. No other media outlets are using that photo because *it's not him*. They are all using the first photo only. Don't let the beard fool you. Look closer.

On the other hand, I think his wife is here:

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by Anonymousreply 211January 28, 2023 11:22 PM

The wife looks tightly wound

by Anonymousreply 212January 28, 2023 11:33 PM

R212, Tight pussy?

by Anonymousreply 213January 28, 2023 11:43 PM

Tightly wound - chronically tense, unable to relax, highly reactive

Sorry, "tightly wound" might be a regional expression.

by Anonymousreply 214January 28, 2023 11:50 PM

Why don't the build an air chute from this bar's balcony to The Vessel, since they don't know what to do that since it turned into suicide central. And then they can install a blender in the center of the vessel. All the people who want to suicide can take a thrilling slide way over to the vessel and then be whipped into a mousse.

by Anonymousreply 215January 28, 2023 11:58 PM

[quote]I wonder if he left a suicide note.

He did. Alas, it blew away.

It was only on a bar napkin. When it was found, it said something about not letting Wy at the funeral. *shrug*

by Anonymousreply 216January 29, 2023 12:05 AM

My friend Julie's nephew works at one of those famous suicide hotels and the crazies who jump down the 50 story atrium are called "jumpers".

by Anonymousreply 217January 29, 2023 12:45 AM

Major financial scandal, which would have sent him to prison. My guess. Notably, he bailed out himself, 2 weeks ago. He's got plenty of cash.

P.S. Is it 3 kids, or 5 kids? Two different claims.

by Anonymousreply 218January 29, 2023 1:36 AM

Some of the comments from the post linked below

[quote]It’s psychological too. I know from this AMC play alone it hits you mentally. One can feel stupid and worthless and develop a bit of complex over it. Multiply that my millions or billions and include other peoples’ money and it’ll likely really hit a person hard.

[quote]Well it also can affect their family too. All the sudden you cant afford anything you’ve given them. I’m sure the Embarrassment and shear terror are over whelming.

[quote]Looks like he wasn’t too good during a bear market.

[quote]Thats why there were only 2 witnesses… they are needed to corroborate their story about how he “jumped”

[quote]Probably lost money for the wrong person.

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by Anonymousreply 219January 29, 2023 1:57 AM

[quote]the crazies who jump down the 50 story atrium are called "jumpers".

Very original.

by Anonymousreply 220January 29, 2023 2:00 AM

Someone in the post at R219 mentioned the Bed Bath & Beyond CFO's September 2022 suicide:

[quote]Gustavo Arnal, the chief financial officer of the beleaguered retailer, jumped to his death from a high-rise apartment in Manhattan on Friday afternoon, a law enforcement source previously told CNN. The NYPD said in a statement Sunday that Arnal, 52, was found unconscious and unresponsive outside his luxury 57-story skyscraper in the neighborhood of Tribeca.

[quote]The law enforcement source told CNN on Sunday that Arnal's wife witnessed him jump. The source said while no suicide note was found, no criminality is suspected.


[quote]Arnal was named as a defendant in a class action lawsuit accusing him, Ryan Cohen and other large shareholders of engaging in a "pump and dump" scheme to artificially inflate the price of the company's stock. The lawsuit was filed last month in United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

I hadn't heard about this.

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by Anonymousreply 221January 29, 2023 2:00 AM

[quote]Notably, he bailed out himself, 2 weeks ago.

Not too notable. He was charged with a violation (DisCon) and a misdemeanor (Crim. Mis), so it was probably $25 or $50 stationhouse bail.

by Anonymousreply 222January 29, 2023 2:01 AM

OMG the R152 clip had Christina Crawford in it. AKA Diana Scarwid.

by Anonymousreply 223January 29, 2023 2:27 AM

Had he been sharing his Netflix password, was that the last straw?

by Anonymousreply 224January 29, 2023 3:29 AM

[quote] Off topic, but anyone in the US can arrest another person, regardless of their profession. It’s called a citizen’s arrest.

A security guard can not put their hands on you, nor can they cuff you and arrest you. The most they can do is 'ask you to stay' until the cops get there. The perp can leave at any time. They are nothing more than a visual deterrent. They usually make minimum wage.

This is why so many places hire off-duty and undercover cops - they can actually put their hands on you and arrest you.

by Anonymousreply 225January 29, 2023 4:00 AM

R211 of course his wife’s name is Lauren. Has anyone EVER met a Lauren who wasn’t a tightly-wound, uptight control freak?

by Anonymousreply 226January 29, 2023 1:01 PM

R226, Excuse me?

by Anonymousreply 227January 29, 2023 1:14 PM

[quote]A security guard can not put their hands on you, nor can they cuff you and arrest you. The most they can do is 'ask you to stay' until the cops get there. The perp can leave at any time. They are nothing more than a visual deterrent. They usually make minimum wage.

Everything about this post, every single word, is patently false.

Maybe there are some COMPANIES that say not to do that, but not all.

For eight years I worked undercover retail loss prevention. We did all of those things. As can any civilian who is making a citizen’s arrest. I have absolutely no idea where you’re getting your information, but mine is from experience.

by Anonymousreply 228January 29, 2023 2:21 PM

Do we have a picture of the wife?

by Anonymousreply 229January 29, 2023 3:28 PM

Can we go back to the HAWT dead daddy?

by Anonymousreply 230January 29, 2023 3:34 PM

But he ain’t hawt no more!

by Anonymousreply 231January 29, 2023 3:36 PM

R228, you might be correct about the laws where you live but laws governing this change between states and jurisdictions and what you say is not true everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 232January 29, 2023 3:47 PM

R216 Never would've happened if he used a post-it!

by Anonymousreply 233January 29, 2023 4:00 PM

It’s true in every state in the Union, Tony.

Anyone, anywhere can make a citizen’s arrest in the United States for a crime that actually was committed. In other words, a civilian cannot arrest on “reasonable cause to believe a crime occurred,” they must have direct knowledge. If they’re wrong, though, that’s where state laws differ on the consequences.

by Anonymousreply 234January 29, 2023 4:02 PM

R234, False. It is not legal in Georgia.

by Anonymousreply 235January 29, 2023 4:09 PM

Bullshit. Where the fuck are you getting this?

Cite me the law that makes a citizens arrest illegal in Georgia.

by Anonymousreply 236January 29, 2023 4:14 PM

For the know-it-all Tony Woodward

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by Anonymousreply 237January 29, 2023 4:15 PM

For Tony

(Though I don’t know how the fuck you gonna call out someone who is in the fucking business!)

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by Anonymousreply 238January 29, 2023 4:16 PM

More for the arrogant douche bag know-it-all Tony.

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by Anonymousreply 239January 29, 2023 4:17 PM
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by Anonymousreply 240January 29, 2023 4:20 PM

I do love how some threads go off on a tangent

by Anonymousreply 241January 29, 2023 4:26 PM

R240, Tony, you’re even dumber than I thought. In the very article you linked, here’s what it says:

[quote] Under the repeal bill, people who are mere bystanders or witnesses generally no longer have the right to detain people. Deadly force can’t be used to detain someone unless it’s in self-protection, protecting a home, or preventing a forcible felony. The changes retain Georgia’s “stand your ground” law, which says a person who is being threatened isn’t required to retreat.

[quote]It [bold]still allows business employees to detain people[/bold] they believe stole something, and lets restaurant employees detain people who try to leave without paying for a meal. [bold]It also lets licensed security guards and private detectives detain people.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 242January 29, 2023 4:27 PM

That’s some dapper dick

by Anonymousreply 243January 29, 2023 4:32 PM

Bed Bath and Beyooooooooooooooooooooooood!!

by Anonymousreply 244January 29, 2023 4:36 PM

I wonder if the paid the check first.

by Anonymousreply 245January 29, 2023 4:39 PM

If BB&B is closing, where do we get Winter Candy Apple and Spiced Gingerbread candles??

by Anonymousreply 246January 29, 2023 4:57 PM

For Tony and R228 (if you are different people) :

"If you are detained by a security guard, keep in mind what they can and can't do. It is legal for an unarmed security guard to detain you, but they can't do so by using force or other methods used by police, such as handcuffing you or placing you in a holding cell. "

Exactly what I said above - they can not touch you (that's called 'using force'), they can not handcuff you. The most they can do to detain a person is to ask them to stay, or try to intimidate them into staying. Grabbing them by their arm (or any other type of contact) is seen as 'using force'. It's not legal. You can leave the premises at any time. You can not be physically detained by force or 'locked in' the building - that's kidnapping.

So, R228 what you proudly admit to doing as a security guard was illegal.

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by Anonymousreply 247January 29, 2023 4:59 PM

R246 There's always TJMaxx and Homegoods !

by Anonymousreply 248January 29, 2023 5:00 PM

Rather than reading a website, r247, please cite the specific law that says that’s illegal. And in what state?

Even Georgia’s law indicates detaining someone is legal in spite of them “tightening up” that law.

by Anonymousreply 249January 29, 2023 5:11 PM

Thank you, R243, for bringing this conversation back to what truly matters.

Has anyone asked who here had him yet? Has anyone here had him?

by Anonymousreply 250January 29, 2023 5:11 PM

R248 don't forget OLLIE'S.

by Anonymousreply 251January 29, 2023 5:13 PM

R246 You are confusing stores. Candles are at Frau paradise, Bath & Body Works.

by Anonymousreply 252January 29, 2023 5:26 PM

[quote]of course his wife’s name is Lauren. Has anyone EVER met a Lauren who wasn’t a tightly-wound, uptight control freak?

The one Lauren I know well is very sweet and the very opposite of an uptight control freak.

by Anonymousreply 253January 29, 2023 6:53 PM

I wonder what the last thing in his mind was?

by Anonymousreply 254January 29, 2023 6:55 PM


by Anonymousreply 255January 29, 2023 6:56 PM

No, the last thing *in* his mind was the sidewalk.

by Anonymousreply 256January 29, 2023 6:56 PM

Do people who jump off tall buildings very often kill people when they jump? I would think their survivors could get quite a lawsuit from the jumper's estate thereafter. That would be the most bizarre way to go, but I guess it would be a fast way to die since you would never know what hit you (literally).

by Anonymousreply 257January 29, 2023 7:02 PM

[quote]I wonder what the last thing in his mind was?

"I wish I had thought this through."

by Anonymousreply 258January 29, 2023 8:50 PM

"Do people who jump off tall buildings very often kill people when they jump? I would think their survivors could get quite a lawsuit from the jumper's estate thereafter. "

Wouldn't even have to be a survivor. The estate of a survivor could sue the estate of a jumper. I'm not sure how common that is, but technically it could be done.

by Anonymousreply 259January 29, 2023 8:56 PM

I would have thought quite often.

Given that tall buildings are generally located in large cities with considerable footfall below them.

by Anonymousreply 260January 29, 2023 9:54 PM

I would think that also, R260, but I don't regularly see that someone died as the result of someone jumping. In fact I rarely see it. Not saying it doesn't happen, but you'd think that would be part of the story for the jumping deaths that get any press.

by Anonymousreply 261January 29, 2023 9:58 PM

[R249] Geeez, I didn't link to the Mueller Report - the link I provided is a 90 second read. Do you lose interest in something if it's more than the length of a text message ?

by Anonymousreply 262January 29, 2023 9:59 PM

That’s right, you didn’t. You also didn’t link to any laws to substantiate your claim, which is false, so instead you hurl insults.

I see you’re new here, so I’ll explain. When you make a statement you want to be taken as fact, you support it with appropriate links, not a website that is very generic in its contention and cites no laws.

by Anonymousreply 263January 29, 2023 10:14 PM

R261 Yes, I completely understand what you're saying.

by Anonymousreply 264January 29, 2023 10:36 PM

The building that he jumped off of has a few setbacks. He probably never made it to the sidewalk. Also the Hyatt Centric on 45th has a big awning. His corpse may have stewed up there for days if no one noticed him jump.

by Anonymousreply 265January 30, 2023 12:26 AM

There's a famous news photo from many years ago that shows the body of a woman who jumped and ended up inside a parked car. She looks surprisingly good, but the car was certainly damaged. I'm not linking to the photo because I don't care to see it again.

by Anonymousreply 266January 30, 2023 1:18 AM

Sweetie, I linked to the website called "Findlaw". The article is there for you to read. The author (Holly South) can be contacted, if you wish to know the "laws" which backs her research. Have it - I'm not doing your homework for you.

There - this message is approximately 'text message' in length for you.

by Anonymousreply 267January 30, 2023 1:41 AM

Maybe they could put gigantic trampolines over the canopy of this hotel.

by Anonymousreply 268January 30, 2023 1:48 AM

R268- Oh, God. Someone would option that in midtown, call it "The Little Death," and charge brokers and day-traders $5,000 a go to test drive hurtling into oblivion on their lunch hour before taking their 1:30 bump and finishing their afternoon meetings off strong.

by Anonymousreply 269January 30, 2023 3:32 AM

R266 you're thinking of the pretty well dressed young woman who in the 40s jumped off the Empire State Building and landed on her back on the roof of a car. She looks like she sleeping in a crumpled mattress in the crushed roof of the car.

by Anonymousreply 270January 30, 2023 4:39 AM

Her name was Evelyn McHale.

by Anonymousreply 271January 30, 2023 7:00 AM
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by Anonymousreply 272January 30, 2023 7:09 AM

Wow at R272. She could have been a model. I wonder if that was just a flattering shot, or if she was that lovely and graceful while alive. And why did she kill herself?

by Anonymousreply 273January 30, 2023 7:43 AM

Thank you R272 for turning me on to such a cool website! These old photos are incredible.

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by Anonymousreply 274January 30, 2023 12:22 PM

[quote] Selfish fuck! 45th street is heavily-trafficked it is a miracle he didn't kill someone when he splashed down.

Honey, no one in their right frame of mind chooses to jump off a building.

by Anonymousreply 275January 30, 2023 12:29 PM

Why was she carrying a mirror?

by Anonymousreply 276January 30, 2023 12:32 PM

^ The woman in the photo.

by Anonymousreply 277January 30, 2023 12:33 PM

R276, One last lipstick touch up.

by Anonymousreply 278January 30, 2023 12:55 PM

She's not all that high up. She would have broken some bones or even her back. She could have fucked up her body or died if she landed on her head. That's clearly a cry for help.

by Anonymousreply 279January 30, 2023 1:58 PM

If you read the link, R279, she could have also impaled herself on a spiky fence to either side of her.

by Anonymousreply 280January 30, 2023 6:10 PM

R280, That happened to Romy Schneider’s son.

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by Anonymousreply 281January 30, 2023 6:22 PM

At the time of McHales death or even since then I wonder if anybody ever tried to find the back story of what brought her to the point of suicide. There had to be some point where she found life intolerable. What was the reason? A failed love affair? An unwanted pregnancy (remember this was the 40s and if you weren't married there was tremendous shame)? A lost job? Obviously she was very depressed but there is often some motivating factor or factors where it all becomes too much to bear.

by Anonymousreply 282January 30, 2023 8:43 PM

Did he shave his balls?

by Anonymousreply 283January 31, 2023 12:46 AM

Picture from his obituary

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by Anonymousreply 284January 31, 2023 3:36 AM

Obituary Excerpt:

[quote]He grew up in New Jersey and Northern Virginia with his two brothers and two sisters. He attended Brigham Young University (class of 2001) in Provo, UT where he studied Accounting and met the love of his life, Lauren Colton, his wife of 22 years (married August 5, 2000 in the Washington DC LDS Temple). He earned an MBA from Harvard Business School (class of 2006) where he learned to be an effective business leader and made lifelong friends. He served a two-year mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Cordoba, Argentina (1996-1998), where he grew to love the people and the gospel of Jesus Christ. This experience nurtured a profound love of serving others that became one of his guiding principles.

I guess I didn't read news articles closely, I was not expecting him to be a Mormon.

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by Anonymousreply 285January 31, 2023 3:41 AM

From the the obituary: "He loved life."

Sounds like it was more of a love/hate relationship.

by Anonymousreply 286January 31, 2023 7:06 AM

Wow R283 - way to bring the conversation down to idiot level.

by Anonymousreply 287January 31, 2023 8:20 AM

R284, BDF.

by Anonymousreply 288January 31, 2023 8:58 AM

Mormon closet case confirmed

by Anonymousreply 289January 31, 2023 9:13 AM

Being Mormon explained why he got married so young and had five kids very young. And the "smelling cookies" look. The church pushes people to get married post-adolescence even before they finish college and get established in their careers. Many Mormons live beyond their means to keep up appearances of perfection. They are extremely judgemental, superficial and materialistic people. Financial stress, pressure to be perfect and being a self-loathing closet case. Recipe for disaster. David Archuleta got out and I hope he becomes a voice for ex-Mormons, there's hope.

by Anonymousreply 290January 31, 2023 9:24 AM

R287 Fuck off. This is DL, not Mumsnet.

This invasion of straight women is seriously fucking annoying.

by Anonymousreply 291January 31, 2023 9:25 AM

R284 Hmm. Not quite as attractive as before. His head appears gigantic.

by Anonymousreply 292January 31, 2023 9:43 AM

R292, You can’t be serious. He was a gorgeous man.

by Anonymousreply 293January 31, 2023 10:21 AM

He looks dead inside. Very fake looking smile. I've never met a Mormon adult who had a real smile.

by Anonymousreply 294January 31, 2023 11:07 AM

So I’m guessing it was a closed casket then?

by Anonymousreply 295January 31, 2023 2:21 PM

Did we ever find out whether it was three or five kids?

by Anonymousreply 296January 31, 2023 2:24 PM

I've always been amazed at how the Mormon Church got to be so popular and gained so many followers. Joseph Smith was such a fraud and a charlatan, Mormonism was like the 19th Century version of Scientology. At least with Scientology, people in the mid-20th Century were more aware of bullshit when they saw it and Scientology never gained a mass following.

by Anonymousreply 297January 31, 2023 3:16 PM

R296, His obituary names the five children.

by Anonymousreply 298January 31, 2023 3:23 PM

Thanks, r298. I only read the excerpt quoted here. I had no interest in reading some rando’s obit.

by Anonymousreply 299January 31, 2023 3:26 PM

R297 I have little sympathy for MAGAT holy rollers or Catholics who are often fake and only use religion for their bigotry and thirst for power. While sinning non-stop outside the church. They know what they're doing.

But with people who are Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and members of other cults especially raised in them. I can't help but feel bad because these are very damaged people who are isolated from reality and are psychologically bound to their religious community. These cults emotionally abuse, spy on you, gaslight and shame you nonstop. People develop a dependency and learned helplessness from a young age. Even if they have great jobs and look happy, they still depend on their cult for solace. It's Stockholm Syndrome. I'm happy people are exposing Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Hillsong and Scientology, they exploit damaged people and abuse children.

by Anonymousreply 300January 31, 2023 7:53 PM

East Coast Mormons are few and far between.

by Anonymousreply 301January 31, 2023 8:40 PM

I was just thinking the same thing, r301. Was definitely surprised he was a Mormon. We don’t have hardly any around here.

by Anonymousreply 302January 31, 2023 9:36 PM

I just found out that a girl with whom I ran track and cross country in high school was the wife of the suicided financier.

When I knew Lauren Colton (now Cheney), she was an incredibly kind Mormon who was the fastest long distance runner on the girl’s team and was often the only one from our school to go to states for both indoor/outdoor track & field and cross country. She was a very devoted Mormon. There were many, many Mormons in our high school, right outside of D.C.

I had completely lost track of her through the years and was sort of shocked to learn this today. I feel sad for her.

R211, yes, that is her.

She was very focused and driven as an athlete when I knew her, sometimes to an extreme extent. So I can see why people have latched onto “tightly-wound.”

by Anonymousreply 303January 31, 2023 9:40 PM

[quote]don't forget OLLIE'S.

As if the Datalounge could EVER forget Follies.

by Anonymousreply 304January 31, 2023 9:41 PM

[quote]r282 At the time of McHales death or even since then I wonder if anybody ever tried to find the back story of what brought her to the point of suicide. There had to be some point where she found life intolerable. What was the reason?

Her mother had emotional problems and it broke up McHale’s family when she was a child. Her suicide note read, [italic] “I don’t want anyone in or out of my family to see any part of me. Could you destroy my body by cremation? I beg of you and my family – don’t have any service for me or remembrance for me. My fiance asked me to marry him in June. I don’t think I would make a good wife for anybody. He is much better off without me. [bold]Tell my father, I have too many of my mother’s tendencies” [/bold] [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 305February 1, 2023 5:42 AM

Wow. The unceasing torment she was living through.

by Anonymousreply 306February 1, 2023 8:43 AM

Diane Linkletter

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by Anonymousreply 307February 1, 2023 9:31 AM

Many Mormons in New Jersey nowadays. A lot of them moved East because there's way more money, jobs and opportunities here than in Utah or Idaho or Colorado where they're more dependent on the LDS church. The reason they seem very rare is many keep their beliefs to themselves being a minority religion and also East Coasters have little tolerance for proselytization. A few of my coworkers revealed themselves to be a Mormon to me and I had no clue. They told me they hid it not to be made fun of. There's also Mormon boys on mission on Eastern college campuses from the Mountain states and they always get made fun of for their ignorance (especially regarding race and sex) and condescension.

by Anonymousreply 308February 1, 2023 10:45 AM

Breaking 🚨 Criminal (domestic violence) charges pending following arrest - released on 25K bond 2 days before the plunge...

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by Anonymousreply 309February 1, 2023 12:28 PM

Well, a Mormon twist to this story. The DL does not disappoint

So, a devout Mormon with 5 kids. Cops called on him for domestic violence early in their marriage when they lived in NYC over financial issues, then again much later after 5 kids and a huge fancy house in CT. I know that despite having large families, the LDS "Church" puts great financial pressure on the father, and it goes way beyond tithing. Constant badgering from higher-ups. It's such a scheme.

This was the case for a colleague who had 6 kids, He was a couple pay grades lower than mine, still very middle-class, but was always under financial stress. The worst of it came during the anti-gay marriage Prop. 8 campaign in CA. Didn't work closely with him but heard the stories from those who did. This was at a company in SF, where there were a lot of gays, lesbians, and liberals on the staff. I told him that the campaign was offensive to me and suggested that it was a losing battle and to not waste his time and money - the measure in fact went down by a huge margin.

The "suicided guy" seems to have had a temper and was prone to violence -- wifey got a restraining order. Suicide (especially the way he did it) is a violent act and is also a huge sin in Moronism.

by Anonymousreply 310February 1, 2023 12:40 PM

He was a contemporary Jackson Pollock yet, unfortunately, left only one masterpiece.

But he put a lot of himself into it.

by Anonymousreply 311February 1, 2023 12:51 PM

I tried talking to him that night but he was all over the place.

by Anonymousreply 312February 1, 2023 12:56 PM

“The "suicided guy" seems to have had a temper and was prone to violence -- wifey got a restraining order. Suicide (especially the way he did it) is a violent act and is also a huge sin in Moronism.“

It’s also a final middle finger to wifey.

by Anonymousreply 313February 1, 2023 12:57 PM

He’s fine, he sends his love

by Anonymousreply 314February 1, 2023 12:58 PM

What a waste of a hot piece of ass.

by Anonymousreply 315February 1, 2023 1:00 PM

BREAKING! - R309 and NYPost offer no new news. We have known this for over a week.

by Anonymousreply 316February 1, 2023 1:01 PM

Do we believe Dale was obtaining sex outside the marriage?

by Anonymousreply 317February 1, 2023 1:02 PM

R316, It had not been previously reported that he was out on bond.

by Anonymousreply 318February 1, 2023 1:03 PM

Sure it was. But do get your clicks.

by Anonymousreply 319February 1, 2023 1:06 PM

Jan 27. And I read it even earlier.

"A police report describing the incident was not immediately available Friday. But a brief summary of the incident provided by police said Cheney was charged with fourth-degree criminal mischief and disorderly conduct. He was released on $25,000 bond and did not enter a plea when he appeared the next day in state Superior Court in Stamford, records show."

The NYPost is enjoyable, R309 - but notice as well that it is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE TABLOID SHIT with no scruples and will post anything for a click.

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by Anonymousreply 320February 1, 2023 1:12 PM

Sad story. The guy was highly stressed and struggling to cope. He needed psychological help, but probably didn’t seek or accept it.

by Anonymousreply 321February 1, 2023 3:23 PM

Did he do this to hurt her? Because she could very well be thinking thank god I don't have to worry ever again about him hurting me.

by Anonymousreply 322February 1, 2023 3:34 PM

Women are nutty now, she’s probably another upper class sociopath who called him a “fag” and told him he was “not a real man”, beat him, then demanded huge amounts of money for luxury items, when he finally half-ass backhanded her after 10 rounds, she intentionally fell to the ground screaming and crying that he was “GOING TO JAIL! WHAT KIND OF MAN HITS A WOMAN?!” allegedly…

by Anonymousreply 323February 1, 2023 3:49 PM

That’s not her at all.

by Anonymousreply 324February 1, 2023 4:08 PM

I wonder if he was wearing his magic underwear?

by Anonymousreply 325February 1, 2023 4:20 PM

R323 BLOCKED for being a humorless misogynist. At least be funny.

by Anonymousreply 326February 1, 2023 5:05 PM

Plenty of Mormons on the East Coast. The statement is inane.

by Anonymousreply 327February 1, 2023 5:06 PM

There are tons of Mormons in Northern Virginia which is where the wife grew up.

by Anonymousreply 328February 1, 2023 5:32 PM

East coast LDS population by state (approximations): GA—98k, VA—96k, NC—92k, NY—83k, PA—52k, MD—46k, SC—42k, NJ—34k, MA—28k, CT—15k, DE—15k, ME—11k, NH—9k, VT—5k, RI—4k, DC—3k.

There are about 700k Mormons on the East Coast, not counting Florida. The total population of that same area is approximately 100 million.

by Anonymousreply 329February 1, 2023 6:12 PM

[quote]Financier who fatally plunged from NYC rooftop bar ID’d as Connecticut dad of 3

I knew a plumber who plunged to his death.

It was quite a difference scene, but equally messy. But the colors were mostly different.


by Anonymousreply 330February 1, 2023 6:16 PM

R330 hardeeharhar you're a regular laugh riot! 😵‍💫💩

by Anonymousreply 331February 1, 2023 6:27 PM

R326 go fuck your Dad, FrauDyke

by Anonymousreply 332February 1, 2023 6:50 PM

If you're Mormon and you want to work, go to Salt Lake City, it's a boomtown! The only metropolis in the country where real estate values increased during the pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 333February 1, 2023 8:45 PM

well, that's simply not true, r333

by Anonymousreply 334February 1, 2023 8:52 PM

Salt Lake City #1

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by Anonymousreply 335February 1, 2023 10:05 PM

you are still a dumb bitch.

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by Anonymousreply 336February 1, 2023 10:14 PM

R331 deserves that familial malignancy.

by Anonymousreply 337February 1, 2023 10:23 PM

I keep wonder if there was some financial malfeasance going on as well where he lost himself and others a ton of money which could never be recovered.

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by Anonymousreply 339February 2, 2023 10:38 AM

Since he was 46, I assumed at least some of his five children were young, but apparently they are all in their late teens and early twenties.

by Anonymousreply 340February 2, 2023 11:02 AM

I hear Utah isn't fun if you're not Mormon. Salt Lake City has enough of a diverse population to mitigate the Mormon supremacy. But the rest of the state seems to be under a theocracy of sorts. Most of politicians in Utah are Mormon and alumni of BYU.

by Anonymousreply 341February 2, 2023 11:05 AM

R341, of course, very true. My comments about Salt Lake being a boomtown were a bit tongue-in-cheek, because, who really wants to live there? Not me. But don't tell people there are no jobs there, which really isn't the case.

by Anonymousreply 342February 2, 2023 11:12 AM

R342 Do those jobs pay the same amount as jobs in the Northeast, DMV area, Texas or West Coast? If you have a college degree and want to move up, usually you chase where the wealth is.

by Anonymousreply 343February 2, 2023 11:34 AM

Thanks for that r329. I live on the NY and CT border, near New Canaan where this guy lived. I have only known ex-Mormons living in NYC. I know in the mid-1990s the Mormons made a huge push to expand in the NYC metro area and bought up tons of real estate to build temples but it kind of fizzled out.

by Anonymousreply 344February 2, 2023 1:21 PM

He was having money problems? And he hit his wife?

by Anonymousreply 345February 2, 2023 2:17 PM

[quote]He was having money problems? And he hit his wife?

And he was also gay and closeted!

by Anonymousreply 346February 2, 2023 6:03 PM

Despite their deeply homophobic religion, many Mormon men look gay as hell. The forced smiling, soft-spoken tone and vanity probably plays a lot in this perception.

by Anonymousreply 347February 2, 2023 7:35 PM

Why do Mormon men present as gay?

by Anonymousreply 348February 2, 2023 11:22 PM

R348, see R347

by Anonymousreply 349February 2, 2023 11:35 PM

Mitt, Rafalca and I send condolences.

by Anonymousreply 350February 3, 2023 1:18 AM

Mitt is a man's man. No homo.


by Anonymousreply 351February 3, 2023 12:30 PM

R3, I can’t believe that’s the same man.

by Anonymousreply 352February 3, 2023 1:48 PM

R352, it’s not. Someone took it from an unrelated LinkedIn. That’s not him.

by Anonymousreply 353February 3, 2023 2:45 PM

Didn't some woman jumped from a hotel window in LA and landed on a pedestrian killing him instantly?

by Anonymousreply 354February 4, 2023 7:07 PM


by Anonymousreply 355February 4, 2023 7:16 PM

[quote]Didn't some woman jumped from a hotel window in LA and landed on a pedestrian killing him instantly?

I hope it wasn't Arlene Francis!

by Anonymousreply 356February 5, 2023 1:40 AM
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