Here’s the story of a cute, but stupid, hiker who just had to be rescued from My. Baldy. He left the same day Sands did and he didn’t have appropriate equipment for the terrain and wrap.
Actor Julian Sands missing — Part Two
|by Anonymous||reply 601||February 23, 2023 8:15 PM|
Tragedy on Mt. Baldy
|by Anonymous||reply 1||January 24, 2023 11:30 PM|
Maybe he was cast in an upcoming live-action version of Disney's "Frozen" and was just being a "method" actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||January 24, 2023 11:31 PM|
Annie Wilkes got him!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||January 24, 2023 11:33 PM|
Stupid young man. He's lucky.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||January 24, 2023 11:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 5||January 24, 2023 11:37 PM|
There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area. He was reported missing about three days after Sands.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||January 24, 2023 11:39 PM|
Here's a nice look at the area posted near the top of the thread, so everyone can get a good look at how steep and rocky the area is. Those gray stripes are avalanche chutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||January 24, 2023 11:53 PM|
Hope they find his boday at the least.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||January 25, 2023 12:04 AM|
Perhaps he’s in the ski hut?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||January 25, 2023 12:05 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 10||January 25, 2023 12:06 AM|
Do these massive searches with air and rescue, etc. happen for the random 6 yr olds from the sticks?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||January 25, 2023 12:09 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 12||January 25, 2023 12:10 AM|
I can’t believe they closed the previous thread while he’s still missing.
It’s like a major coverup is underway.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||January 25, 2023 12:14 AM|
I think a thread is closed when it reaches 600 posts, r13.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||January 25, 2023 12:35 AM|
OP Tack Sappington exhausted me.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||January 25, 2023 12:38 AM|
Threads on Datalounge are limited to 600 posts R13. All threads - without exception.
After 600 posts someone starts a new thread like this one. There's no coverup. Get a damn grip.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||January 25, 2023 12:38 AM|
R16 Jesus, they were kidding, obviously.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||January 25, 2023 12:42 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 18||January 25, 2023 12:48 AM|
Many years ago, an acquaintance of mine was cross country skiing on Mt Shasta. He went up higher than what was allowed, and he slipped into an icy ravine and broke an ankle. He wasn't able to climb out due to the ice and the broken ankle, and he died of exposure. It took weeks for search crews to find him because they didn't think to look in regions that were higher up than what was allowed.
Sometimes people do foolish things.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||January 25, 2023 12:50 AM|
R7 On the last thread there was a post that said Mt Baldy was 4,000 ' Maybe it was meant to be meters, because the summit is at over 10,000'. I've summited a couple of times; the summit is "bald" and not particularly steep... but that is almost more disorienting... I can imagine in the wind in winter it would be easy to get lost or confused at the top, and the trail up the bowl is steep...with an icy trail you could easily slip down, break a leg, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||January 25, 2023 12:50 AM|
There is not reason to believe he went up Mt. Baldy. He could be dead in a canyon.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||January 25, 2023 12:51 AM|
Yes. Yes. I'm new here. I've been a paid member since 2004 R17.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||January 25, 2023 12:54 AM|
This is the best online guide I’ve found for Mt. Baldy hiking. There is a good photo of the trail near the summit, showing how precarious it is and how it looks blanketed in snow. As the text notes, if you fall from this area, it’s to “a pcertain death.”
|by Anonymous||reply 23||January 25, 2023 1:09 AM|
“a pcertain death.”
Thanks, Mr Pfeiffer.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||January 25, 2023 1:12 AM|
R24, is the “f” not silent?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||January 25, 2023 1:15 AM|
I have vertigo and the backbone is horrifying I had to skip that part in the video.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||January 25, 2023 1:16 AM|
What is a primitive bathroom?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||January 25, 2023 1:17 AM|
The second hiker who was missing on My. Baldy has been found safe!
|by Anonymous||reply 28||January 25, 2023 1:17 AM|
A hole, R27.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||January 25, 2023 1:19 AM|
He says there is no shame in crawling the devil's backbone on your hands and knees.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||January 25, 2023 1:20 AM|
that would seem to be even more dangerous. I can't believe they let thousands walk across that every year. But I guess it's nothing too dangerous if you don't have vertigo.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||January 25, 2023 1:22 AM|
People get hooked on hiking, it is a natural high. For some, hiking is conducive to their good mental health. They need that time out there ALONE and away from the mobile devices. Sands more than likely has hiked alone even in precarious conditions without a problem many times before until this one time where he cannot make it back.
Last summer, a couple went out unwisely during the heat of summer with their dog and infant, they were quickly exposed to insanely hot temperatures and died. This is the sort of experience the couple had made many times previously and documented on their social media accounts. They did not have a death wish, they made a miscalculation that cost them their lives.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||January 25, 2023 1:22 AM|
what kind of name is Tack?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||January 25, 2023 1:25 AM|
[quote]I can’t believe they closed the previous thread while he’s still missing. It’s like a major coverup is underway.
I know, right?
Just like with Dyatlov Pass!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||January 25, 2023 1:26 AM|
What’s Dyatlov Pass?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||January 25, 2023 1:27 AM|
R35 It is a Russian seduction technique, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||January 25, 2023 1:31 AM|
I only hiked once or twice with a few buddies. It was not treacherous and we had a great time.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||January 25, 2023 1:31 AM|
That other hiker who was found safe is ten years older than Julian Sands. He spent two nights in freezing temperatures. Unclear what kind of equipment he had with him but it probably wasn’t much since he was supposed to be in the area for only half a day.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||January 25, 2023 1:32 AM|
R37 Was it winter, and during a snow storm?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||January 25, 2023 1:32 AM|
R37 = the good time had by all.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||January 25, 2023 1:34 AM|
Maybe Jin Chung is an assassin.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||January 25, 2023 1:36 AM|
I meant, I have only hiked very casually once or twice in non treacherous conditions and had such a great time I understand why people pursue this more intensely. They don't have a death wish, they love that high.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||January 25, 2023 1:39 AM|
I was the one who said the summit was 4000+' and I was going off a Google search bc even when i skimmed the wiki article, I didn't see a height for the summit.
I kind of thought that sounded low; pretty sure I'd heard of people jumping off the summit and parasailing a looooooong way down.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||January 25, 2023 1:40 AM|
Also, I love hiking and have done a lot of it. But I don't favor hikes that are up very steep mountains; the closest I've come is doing an 11 mile hike up Mt. Tam on the Marin Headlands. If I was in better shape, I could see doing steeper hikes, but that one was pretty tiring. (FYI, it was an out and back hike). I prefer ones that are not so tiring and allow me to enjoy the views instead of just wanting it to be done and over with.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||January 25, 2023 1:45 AM|
Still?!?!?!?! At what point do you give up and go home? To quote the blacks, “He dead.”
|by Anonymous||reply 45||January 25, 2023 1:48 AM|
Julian Sands: Are you an assassin?
Jin Chung: No, I'm an errand boy with your Kung Pao Chicken.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||January 25, 2023 1:48 AM|
So no more hot skinny dipping?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||January 25, 2023 1:51 AM|
I hadn't noticed this before.
Cell phone pings from the actor's iPhone showed evidence that he was nearing Mount Baldy's summit at the time of his disappearance, according to the sheriff's office.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||January 25, 2023 2:01 AM|
[quote]There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area.
I said it before and I’ll say it again.
Jason got these people!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||January 25, 2023 2:01 AM|
[quote]The second hiker who was missing on My. Baldy
Is that what you kids are calling it now? We just used to call it trimmed pubes.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||January 25, 2023 2:03 AM|
I wonder if there are any good cruising spots on Mt. Baldy?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||January 25, 2023 2:12 AM|
Apparently on the last thread someone speculated there were bears up there. I guess if that’s your thing. Personally, I prefer jocks and twinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||January 25, 2023 2:16 AM|
I heard that L.A. bears can be very aggressive!
|by Anonymous||reply 53||January 25, 2023 2:17 AM|
You cruisin' for a bruisin' fatal fall?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||January 25, 2023 2:18 AM|
Thank you for the geolocalisation info. I was hoping he had not headed up there. But anyway its moot now because he's dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||January 25, 2023 2:19 AM|
Maybe he’s met a wild man who’s chopped off his arms and legs and is keeping him locked up unable to escape
|by Anonymous||reply 56||January 25, 2023 2:22 AM|
So much craziness on Mt. Baldy. This really happened in December 2021: Two hikers slid 150 feet down the mountain. They needed rescue, but they both lost their phones. However, they landed near a phone that was left behind when ANOTHER hiker slid at the same place 5 days earlier. They were able to use that phone to call for help. The battery was at 1%.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||January 25, 2023 2:25 AM|
here's an idea. Since thousands of yahoos are walking that tightrope, why don't the put a guideline. Or some nets. Because it would kill the natural aspect of it? Is there signage - warning inexperienced hikers to be more careful at the peak? Maybe not to attempt it but take a safer, amateur route?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||January 25, 2023 2:29 AM|
Holy cats, r57. One of those hikers was obviously needed on earth to start the ripple which would eventually culminate in some major event that has, or will, take place.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||January 25, 2023 2:29 AM|
[Quote]Tragedy on Mt. Baldy
A working title for the Joey Lawrence biography.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||January 25, 2023 2:37 AM|
R57 That is a weird coincidence. It just wasn't their time yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||January 25, 2023 2:38 AM|
r60 you got the ROFL award from me tonight. Bravo!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||January 25, 2023 2:49 AM|
Tack Sappington, the young guy who was just rescued on Mt. Baldy, is an actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||January 25, 2023 2:50 AM|
An actor? How tacky.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||January 25, 2023 2:50 AM|
[quote] Tack Sappington, the young guy who was just rescued on Mt. Baldy, is an actor.
Given his prominent mole, I'm surprised they made any effort at all to find him.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||January 25, 2023 2:52 AM|
Tack Sappington’s ordeal:
|by Anonymous||reply 66||January 25, 2023 2:55 AM|
Is hiking the new AA for L.A. actors?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||January 25, 2023 2:58 AM|
[quote]what kind of name is Tack?
I love it!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||January 25, 2023 2:59 AM|
His arm bruises remind me of carpet burns,
|by Anonymous||reply 69||January 25, 2023 2:59 AM|
They are scabs not bruises.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||January 25, 2023 3:04 AM|
Tack seems fake.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||January 25, 2023 3:06 AM|
[quote]r65 Given his prominent mole, I'm surprised they made any effort at all to find him.
It’s how they spotted him from the aircraft.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||January 25, 2023 3:16 AM|
[quote] Tack Sappington went hiking Friday, Jan. 13…
Mistake No. 1
|by Anonymous||reply 73||January 25, 2023 3:19 AM|
R21 Yep, I think the more likely scenario is he slipped into one of the canyons, broke some bones and couldn't get back up.
R58 I've been to the summit twice, and it's not as perilous as some of those pics (and stories) might suggest. You don't have to do a loop; many if not most just go up and back the same, relatively safe trail. Even at that section at the top people are saying is so dangerous, the slope on each side isn't really that steep... except in a couple of places if you slip and step off the trail... you, well, step back on the trail. Gravity and physics, your friends. HOWEVER, ice and wind and ice and wind... yeah, changes everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||January 25, 2023 3:26 AM|
These are all the people the family thanked in their recent statement.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||January 25, 2023 3:31 AM|
Tack sho is ugly
|by Anonymous||reply 76||January 25, 2023 3:32 AM|
This could do wonders for his career. His IMD list is pretty undistinguished.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||January 25, 2023 3:37 AM|
The mole will hold him back, R77.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||January 25, 2023 3:43 AM|
Julian Sands: Are you an assassin?
Tack Sappington: No, I'm a fanboy.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||January 25, 2023 3:43 AM|
He's got a face for radio, and my God, you couldn't ask for a name with more zip and zing! I could see an FM morning show in his future.
"Tack Sappington and the Rise 'N Shine Zoo Crew"
|by Anonymous||reply 80||January 25, 2023 3:50 AM|
Was Julian Sands tapping Tack Sappington atop the peak when things went sideways?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||January 25, 2023 3:50 AM|
That's a different movie, r81
|by Anonymous||reply 82||January 25, 2023 3:54 AM|
This is a very good documentary about an Andean climb that goes very wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||January 25, 2023 3:58 AM|
Yes R81, he was so sapped after tapping Tack Sappington, that he dropped his backpack of snacks, which led to a fatal bear attack.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||January 25, 2023 4:02 AM|
DL in good form tonight!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||January 25, 2023 4:08 AM|
maybe he was attacked and killed by a mountain lion - like in Six Feet Under.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||January 25, 2023 4:11 AM|
He was a booze bag. Should have tried AA.
Some alkies “bottom out” by sliding headfirst to the bottom of a mountain.
[italic] A young boy darts to the back door of a local pub and roots around in the bins, trimphantly retrieving an armful of empty wine bottles. ‘I would always take a swig to see if anything was left…’
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 25, 2023 4:20 AM|
I did that once r87. Except all the bottles were piled up on my counters and I figured I was still too drunk to drive to get more wine.
So glad I'm over that now.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||January 25, 2023 4:25 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 89||January 25, 2023 4:32 AM|
"There is so much more about Sands’ love of wine to share: geographical areas not touched on; his penchant for drinking from silver goblets; [bold]his habit of decanting fine red into plastic containers to take hiking…[/bold]"
Guess he really* did* die doing what he loved!
|by Anonymous||reply 90||January 25, 2023 5:15 AM|
Someone pointed out on Twitter that Julian appeared in a film called The Survivalist (2021) but he had a supporting role.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||January 25, 2023 5:18 AM|
I just learned from the other thread that he had 4 brothers. God bless his parents.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||January 25, 2023 5:18 AM|
He's not in the trailer for the film.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||January 25, 2023 5:20 AM|
Yes apparently one brother was a sexy bachelor but I couldn't find a pic.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||January 25, 2023 5:23 AM|
I’m sort of amazed that we have 700 posts on this. I think “missing hiker” is a definite DL sub-genre.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||January 25, 2023 6:03 AM|
Yeah, I think the missing (then found dead) Pleasanton Hiker was also a longer one. Also, Gaby Petito kind of fits this too. Then they found that cute missing hiker (dead) at around the same time as Gaby was missing and he'd been missing for awhile. As I recall, that was a smaller thread. Then Sherry Papini, who was a "missing" runner...and wasn't really even missing.
And did they ever find that hiker in Washington who went out alone in a National Forest a few months back?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||January 25, 2023 6:14 AM|
R95, it's not that surprising that this story is getting a lot of interest on DL -- it involves the disappearance of an actor in the mountains, plus many DLers have fond memories of Julian's naked scene in "A Room With A View":
|by Anonymous||reply 97||January 25, 2023 6:41 AM|
^^ That’s probably what “paradoxical undressing” looks like. How eerie.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||January 25, 2023 6:48 AM|
[quote] Jin Chung
Elderly Korean hikers are hardcore, man. (No, I'm not kidding). They're all geared out and prepared as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||January 25, 2023 6:53 AM|
[quote] Is hiking the new AA for L.A. actors?
Hiking for actors and actor-wannabes usually means Runyon Canyon and the Santa Monica Mtns, but maybe they're branching out eastward into the San Gabriel Mtns?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||January 25, 2023 6:56 AM|
Is Tack Sappington gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||January 25, 2023 6:59 AM|
These videos of people getting lost while hiking are addictive!
|by Anonymous||reply 102||January 25, 2023 7:02 AM|
Maybe his real name is Sack Tappington but that sounded too gay so he transposed the first two letters.
Is it possible that Julian was Tappington Sack?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||January 25, 2023 7:02 AM|
A misunderstanding over a game of hacky sack at the top of the Baldy stack saw Tack Sappington throw hands with Julian Sands!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||January 25, 2023 7:08 AM|
[quote] There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area.
If someone is lost in the Crystal Lake area, they almost certainly went up to Mt. Islip via the Windy Gap Trail. Or more like Mt. "I Slip" considering the snow up there right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||January 25, 2023 7:08 AM|
This is pretty interesting…..
|by Anonymous||reply 106||January 25, 2023 7:11 AM|
Mountain climbers lost in Alaska……
|by Anonymous||reply 107||January 25, 2023 7:13 AM|
Tack Sappington definitely pings to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||January 25, 2023 7:15 AM|
Dumb guy gets lost in the Sierra Nevadas in Fresno county…..
|by Anonymous||reply 109||January 25, 2023 7:18 AM|
Tack Sappington as Julian Sands in the Lifetime movie - Sands in the Snow: The Final Hike.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||January 25, 2023 7:21 AM|
He's already drafting the script for a Lifetime movie to star himself as himself. It's the part he was born to play.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||January 25, 2023 8:21 AM|
There seem to be conflicting reports. One says the ground searches for the second hiker had provided an opportunity for secondary sweeps. But another says fresh searches on higher ground are still not possible due to poor conditions.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||January 25, 2023 8:28 AM|
R109 Sorry, I can’t help it. Not an “Oh, Dear!”, just my obligation as a lifelong Californian:
It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”
|by Anonymous||reply 113||January 25, 2023 8:32 AM|
For any latecomers who want to get caught up. Here is the link to Part 1 113 replies later...
|by Anonymous||reply 114||January 25, 2023 8:50 AM|
I've only been lost while solo hiking once, and it was in the high Sierras near Lake Tahoe, and I realized I was lost and realized a storm was moving in at just about the same moment! Of course since I'm me, I didn't panic, I was in a valley with a lake in the middle, and I just looked around and picked out the area where the trail had entered the valley. Sure enough, I was right, the trail was where I thought it was, and I made it back to my car before the rain got me too wet.
A couple of years later, a co-worker started talking about the single most terrifying experience of her life, when she'd gotten lost in the same region with the same weather conditions! She wasn't even alone, she was with a more experienced hiker, but she'd panicked anyway. If she'd been alone she'd have probably gotten herself lost.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||January 25, 2023 9:05 AM|
Well, smell you, man of steel r115
|by Anonymous||reply 116||January 25, 2023 9:10 AM|
Really expected R115 to be Greg.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||January 25, 2023 9:18 AM|
When I was a boy I hiked from our beach cottage to a state beach to spend quite some time dallying in the nude changing house and showers. When I arrived home after many hours I explained that I had been lost in the pine forest and had been scared and I was relieved to be home.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||January 25, 2023 9:35 AM|
I hope you came across some Penis Radiata on your adventure, R118!
|by Anonymous||reply 119||January 25, 2023 9:40 AM|
[quote]It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”
R113 r109 Interesting. Always thought saying “the Sierra,” instead of the Sierras, was due to 70s activism, & a little misguided. We say the Rockies, the Alps, and the Andes, it’s how English speakers nickname mountain ranges. So even though sierra means mountain range in Spanish, the Sierras oughta be acceptable in English, ¿verdad?
R115 if visibility had been reduced by snow or rain, you might not have made it out of there just to get minced in a DL thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||January 25, 2023 11:25 AM|
Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails? Or are there always just so many people out that there is no opportunity for foul play? I am now a fat whore but even at the peak of my fitness I would never go alone on a weekday hike in most of the Appalachian ranges except in the most touristy areas.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||January 25, 2023 1:05 PM|
"It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”"
People who live within driving distance of the Sierra Nevada mountains call them "The Sierras". Tough beans if that's grammatically incorrect.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||January 25, 2023 2:02 PM|
[quote]Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails?
Not in the snow. It’s too cold.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||January 25, 2023 2:58 PM|
Is he still missing? Asking for a friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||January 25, 2023 3:08 PM|
R119 Penis rigida, dear, East Coast.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||January 25, 2023 3:08 PM|
Given that there are mountain lions living in the Los Angeles hills, I’m assuming there are sufficient megafauna to take out a human in more outlying areas.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||January 25, 2023 3:13 PM|
I had frostbite on my penis, why aren't you talking about ME and my struggles instead of this C-lister?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||January 25, 2023 3:18 PM|
R126 Yes, there are mountain lions in that area. I remember one of the most popular postcards available for sale in Mt. Baldy Village was of a mountain lion sitting on a boulder near the mountain’s summit.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||January 25, 2023 3:23 PM|
R126 Mountain lions prey on mule deer which are prevalent in the San Gabriel Mountains. In winter, the deer migrate to lower elevations, so I think the mountain lions would also do so. However, if there was a lion on the upper mountain and Julian was the only edible available, a lion could have gotten him.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||January 25, 2023 3:31 PM|
I heard he was distraught about being so unpleasantly bald and went to Mt. Baldy to finish things right.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||January 25, 2023 3:31 PM|
Thank you hallowed perv at R123.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||January 25, 2023 3:52 PM|
R120 That was an interesting article, thank you. I am a native Californian who has hiked in California mountains for over 50 years. Checking my own usage: I do say "the Sierras", but also say, "the Sierra Nevada", and where I go a lot, I'd say "the Eastern Sierra", singular.
No question that English usage has put pressure on form, and "Sierras" is common, if not "standard" yet.
I wonder if some of the critics in that article - who say it's a violation of, and disrespect for, Spanish, would also say Latinx. I am a left wing, Spanish speaker, and although I get the political impact and intent of Latinx, no Spanish speaker I know outside the Academy uses the term.
And, last, to bring this post back to the topic of the thread.... I have hiked in the mountains around Baldy since I was a kid. We would call that range "the San Gabriels" - plural.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||January 25, 2023 3:59 PM|
I think plural nicknames for immense mountain ranges make the mountains sound more individual and therefore “friendly” to hikers. On the other hand, “the Sierra Nevada” sounds more intimidating than “the Sierras.“ It’s a colloquialism, so I don’t understand the debate over its usage. I’m more concerned about Californians calling “San Pedro” “San Pee-dro.” What’s up with that?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||January 25, 2023 4:52 PM|
R121, the California trails are safe when it comes to other human beings. It also would have been really hard to move a dead body away in those treacherous conditions.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||January 25, 2023 4:53 PM|
[quote] Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails?
The most dangerous thing about the San Gabriels are how steep they are. Unprepared city people do so many dumb things/don't realize the danger.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||January 25, 2023 4:57 PM|
R133 Because they are speaking English. For example I bet you say Pear Ess, not Pah Ree for the capital of Frances. I bet you say Mex - ee- coh, not Meh - hee - coh... because you are speaking English.
Even Los Angeles... to apply your frustration with Pee-dro... you'd recommend the largest city in CA be pronounce. Lowz - An - He - Les.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||January 25, 2023 5:09 PM|
Here's the fine Mr. Sands with his four brothers. Two of them are quite handsome. I still think Julian's hot, even as a crazy-eyed old man. (RIP)
|by Anonymous||reply 137||January 25, 2023 5:29 PM|
[quote] Tragedy on Mt. Baldy
Is this a euphemism for something else?
|by Anonymous||reply 138||January 25, 2023 5:32 PM|
[quote] for the capital of Frances.
Isn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||January 25, 2023 5:34 PM|
Re: the Sierra debate. It’s not about grammar, or respecting language. It’s about redundancy. Sierra means “mountains”, therefore Sierra Nevada is already a plural name. Adding an an S to either word is unnecessary and redundant. Other place names such as the Rocky Mountains, Cascade Mountains, become the Rockies and Cascades to refer to the entire range. I understand the urge to do the same with the Sierra. But Sierra Nevada means “snow-covered mountains”. The extra S wouldn’t even make sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||January 25, 2023 6:17 PM|
How did Julien refer to the mountain range? That’s what matters here.
Show some RESPECT.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||January 25, 2023 6:25 PM|
He was such a cool guy
|by Anonymous||reply 142||January 25, 2023 6:41 PM|
[quote]IIsn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?
Her noggin. And capital.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||January 25, 2023 7:46 PM|
[quote]IIsn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?
No, silly, it’s F.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||January 25, 2023 8:28 PM|
[quote]Here's the fine Mr. Sands with his four brothers.
Oh, wait, there’s five of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||January 25, 2023 8:29 PM|
[quote] It also would have been really hard to move a dead body away in those treacherous conditions.
Who said we’re moving a body? We don’t care if it’s found.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||January 25, 2023 8:30 PM|
He was a mood
|by Anonymous||reply 147||January 25, 2023 8:46 PM|
We do not require any more week-old news reports that contain no new information.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||January 25, 2023 9:13 PM|
R148 I meant only to post the (to me) sexy pic, but the article link came with it. I know we all know as much as there is to know at present.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||January 25, 2023 9:38 PM|
R136 The difference between “San Pedro” vs. the other mispronounced words and phrases you mention is that “Pedro” is a common name in California, pronounced correctly in all other contexts, which is why it’s so weird that San Pedro is an exception.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||January 25, 2023 10:19 PM|
I haven’t noticed any comment in the news from James Ivory. He gave Julian Sands one of his first roles in A Room With A View. That’s actually the only really good film Sands was ever in. Sands was due to play the title role in Maurice, Ivory’s next film. He backed out at the last minute and James Wilby got the part. That was one of the stupidest career decisions any actor has ever made. Does anyone know why Sands backed out? Afraid to play a gay character?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||January 25, 2023 11:13 PM|
Room With a View is a favorite. Daniel Day Lewis is very funny in it. Julian Sands? Never looked better.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||January 25, 2023 11:31 PM|
In a 1987 interview, Ivory said Sands had backed out of "Maurice" "for personal reasons." Sands' first marriage (to the journalist Sarah Sands) was unravelling and they were divorced in 1987. By coincidence, Sarah's brother, Kit Hesketh-Harvey, was chosen by Ivory to co-write the screen adaptation of "Maurice" when Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, Ivory's regular collaborator, said she considered the novel to be minor Forster and didn't want to adapt it.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||January 25, 2023 11:41 PM|
I’m a native born Californian. They’re called the Sierras.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||January 25, 2023 11:52 PM|
I call them the Eastern Sierra if I'm traveling up the 395.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||January 25, 2023 11:54 PM|
I grew up in California and most people usually refer to them as the Sierras, as in, "I'm going hiking/camping/etc in the Sierras."
I live in Northern California and grew up in Southern California. Pretty much uniform no matter where I live(d).
|by Anonymous||reply 156||January 26, 2023 12:06 AM|
Lay-Z boy here but did anyone mention if drones are being used in the search?
|by Anonymous||reply 157||January 26, 2023 12:06 AM|
R157. Yes, drones and helicopters.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||January 26, 2023 12:13 AM|
UPDATE from the San Bernandino County Sheriff: The search for Julian Sands continues by air only. The California Highway Patrol –Valley Division Air Ops from Auburn, California, is currently assisting us in the search using a RECCO device RECCO - Be Searchable. RECCO technology can detect RECCO reflective material, electronics, & in some cases, credit cards. We are hopeful our partners, Officers Hertzell & Calcutt, can pinpoint an area where we can focus our search efforts, and we thank them for their assistance.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||January 26, 2023 1:05 AM|
Maybe the aliens took him
|by Anonymous||reply 160||January 26, 2023 1:08 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 161||January 26, 2023 1:09 AM|
[quote]R159 San Bernandino County Sheriff: We are hopeful our partners, Officers Hertzell & Calcutt, can pinpoint an area where we can focus our search efforts, and we thank them for their assistance.
Does this strike anyone else as mildly passive aggressive?
|by Anonymous||reply 162||January 26, 2023 1:12 AM|
R162 See, Linda sang Sierra.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||January 26, 2023 1:16 AM|
I watched the movie Everest and there was one scene where a helicopter was initially unable to land because of high winds, though it eventually did. I think Tack mentions the same thing in the first attempt to rescue him.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||January 26, 2023 1:20 AM|
Tack in in TikTok but DL won't let me attach his videos.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||January 26, 2023 1:26 AM|
[quote]R163 See, Linda sang Sierra. —no s
Like r156, I’m from California, and we say Sierras. It’s not a word that comes up in conversation very often, so we don’t think it through or dwell on it.
We all know it’s the Sierra Mountain Range, but if someone said, “I’ll be away this weekend, in the Sierra,” we’d look at them oddly, wondering if they meant a car.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||January 26, 2023 1:52 AM|
More specifically a hearse.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||January 26, 2023 1:53 AM|
If you really want to be correct, you must roll the Rs, for example: “I will be vacationing the SIERRRRA.”
|by Anonymous||reply 168||January 26, 2023 2:26 AM|
Actually it's pronounced "throat warbler mangrove".
|by Anonymous||reply 169||January 26, 2023 2:29 AM|
…and don’t forget to stomp your feet and do air castanets every time you say “the SIERRRRA!”
|by Anonymous||reply 170||January 26, 2023 2:32 AM|
...while following it up with shouts of Ole! Andale! Arriba!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 171||January 26, 2023 2:36 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 172||January 26, 2023 2:37 AM|
R129 I live in one of the foothill cities at the base of the San Gabriels and I just received an email notification from the city about a mountain lion sighting about half a mile from me (on a residential street.)
|by Anonymous||reply 173||January 26, 2023 3:12 AM|
… and France.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||January 26, 2023 3:18 AM|
[quote]R173 I just received an email notification from the city about a mountain lion sighting about half a mile from me (on a residential street.)
Does it look full, like Julian might be in its belly?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||January 26, 2023 4:52 AM|
He kind of looks like a mountain lion — maybe he was adopted by a pride and they’re sheltering him in a cave somewhere en las Sierra.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||January 26, 2023 4:58 AM|
R155 knows what's up.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||January 26, 2023 6:19 AM|
Is there any chance he's still alive?
|by Anonymous||reply 178||January 26, 2023 6:34 AM|
If he's faked his death and started a new life somewhere else, R178, he might still be alive.
But if he's still on Mt. Baldy, he's dead. They're just looking for the corpse, at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||January 26, 2023 6:39 AM|
Maybe he didn't have his credit card with him so that technology is not going to work.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||January 26, 2023 8:28 PM|
Are there no grizzled mountain men who could have found him half dead, carried him by sled to their off grid cabin, gotten him into a steaming bath and nursed him back to health?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||January 26, 2023 8:45 PM|
[quote]Are there no grizzled mountain men who could have found him half dead, carried him by sled to their off grid cabin, gotten him into a steaming bath and nursed him back to health?
It’s San Bernardino County, so he might have been picked up by a biker gang, and they’re training him how to cook meth at their secret compound in the woods.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||January 26, 2023 9:51 PM|
Are they bumping uglies?
Cause that would be hawt.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||January 26, 2023 10:15 PM|
Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||January 26, 2023 10:21 PM|
Yes R176. The actually happened to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||January 26, 2023 10:52 PM|
[quote]Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor.
Sounds like it's way for them to continue the search, r184.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||January 26, 2023 11:23 PM|
I think the scaling back is that they won't do any more land searches even in passable weather.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||January 26, 2023 11:26 PM|
I dragged him back to my cabin, where I gave him a full body rubdown before we made passionate love.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||January 26, 2023 11:28 PM|
My read was that they had ceased searching entirely, r184/r187, and using RECCO was a way to continue, but maybe you're right.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||January 26, 2023 11:32 PM|
Friend actor Kevin Ryan speaks on video.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||January 27, 2023 1:02 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 191||January 27, 2023 1:04 AM|
So Julian Sands has hiked in Runyon Canyon. Any of you WeHo guys seen him there?
|by Anonymous||reply 192||January 27, 2023 1:07 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 193||January 27, 2023 1:15 AM|
R193 Tack Sappington could play his younger brother.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||January 27, 2023 1:20 AM|
For his family's sake I hope that they find his body someday. It must be torture to have a loved one disappear.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||January 27, 2023 1:27 AM|
If Caitlyn Jenner is shown on TMZ with a new gal pal named Julia Sanders in the convertible with her, I'm going to start wondering.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||January 27, 2023 1:52 AM|
"Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor."
Like I said, they're just looking for the corpse at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||January 27, 2023 3:04 AM|
[quote]Maybe he didn't have his credit card with him so that technology is not going to work.
But he still had NATURE'S credit card.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||January 27, 2023 4:44 AM|
On the positive side, Julian has gone out with a dramatic bang. After years of a declining career, this is the most attention he has received since "A Room With A View".
|by Anonymous||reply 199||January 27, 2023 7:20 AM|
Here’s a good summary of rescue efforts for all of the missing hikers in the Mt. Baldy area.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||January 27, 2023 3:50 PM|
While we’re waiting for Julian’s body to be found, we could watch a movie. Gripped - Climbing the Killer Pillar is a recent movie about mountain climbing. It’s pretty good. I talked to the lead actress, Amanda Maddox, several times a few years ago. Between acting jobs, she worked as a waitress at Villa Blanca in Beverly Hills, where I’d occasionally eat lunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||January 27, 2023 8:18 PM|
It certainly would be a romantic way to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||January 27, 2023 9:01 PM|
The main actor in Gripped is Kaiwi Lyman. Never heard of him, but he’s HOT. You can watch the movie free on Tubi.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||January 27, 2023 9:03 PM|
And the Lifetime Original Movie rights belong to his survivors, which is nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||January 27, 2023 9:03 PM|
^^ in response to
[quote]r202 It certainly would be a romantic way to go.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||January 27, 2023 9:04 PM|
My brother and I are currently in Big Bear, and skiing at Snow Summit. Conditions are nearly perfect, with three to four feet of snow and bright sunshine. However, I’m not fully enjoying myself since the snow can be fun to ski, but it would be awful to be injured and helpless in freezing weather. I keep thinking about Julian Sands and hope that if he’s met his end, it was quick and as painless as possible.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||January 27, 2023 10:39 PM|
Actor Julian Sands is due to join his four brothers for their regular weekly pub meeting in their native Yorkshire in two days. But there is little doubt now — even as the family’s mood oscillates between hope and fear — that he will be absent.
Each week, the four UK-based Sands brothers: Nick, Robin, Jeremy and Quentin — who live a short drive from each other in Yorkshire — meet for a drink, and sometimes a meal, near Gargrave.
‘And at least three times a year, bless him, Julian makes sure he comes home to see us, just for the one night,’ says Nick. ‘He gets the train up from London to Skipton, then never wants a lift to Gargrave. Instead, he walks the five miles over our local hill, Sharp Haw, which looks down on our village, then breezes through the front door of my office there.
Nick had been scheduled to meet Julian in London this week, where he was due to discuss a film project followed by their Yorkshire trip.
For now, his fellow Monday Club members wait in hopeful anticipation. Nick has a bottle of claret his brother gave to him and he wants nothing more than to see him ‘striding down our hill, in defiance of all of us, into Gargrave, to share it with us.’
|by Anonymous||reply 207||January 27, 2023 11:25 PM|
Yeah, he’s gonna need a rain check.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||January 27, 2023 11:28 PM|
[quote]My brother and I are currently in Big Bear
Remember some years back when Stephanie Forrester and Brooke Logan had a huge confrontation at Big Bear?
|by Anonymous||reply 209||January 28, 2023 7:19 AM|
R209, are you referring to the Valley from where that slut Brooke Logan is from?
|by Anonymous||reply 210||January 28, 2023 7:29 AM|
R207 where is that from? If true, that's really sad for those brothers.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||January 28, 2023 8:30 AM|
From the Dailymail.co.uk.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||January 28, 2023 9:56 AM|
R207, I wouldn't bother pouring that fifth glass.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||January 28, 2023 10:15 AM|
His body may not be found till spring/summer, if ever. How long before they legally declare him dead? How is that done?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||January 28, 2023 5:58 PM|
R214 In California, a missing person can be presumed dead after five years.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||January 28, 2023 8:59 PM|
I’m fucking SICK of Julian Sands teasing this out indefinitely.
[italic]Show your face, demon!
|by Anonymous||reply 216||January 28, 2023 11:22 PM|
One can only hope that he got caught in an avalanche, and is found intact with the spring thaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||January 29, 2023 1:48 AM|
Well, since he already looked like beef jerky, when they find him he'll probably be mistaken for Ötzi' the Iceman's older American brother.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||January 29, 2023 2:33 AM|
Rose Red ate him.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||January 29, 2023 9:39 AM|
Julian Sands has three children. His disappearance is very sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||January 29, 2023 9:53 AM|
[quote]R119 Penis rigida, dear, East Coast.
Sorry to derail things, but I used to catalogue forestry reports in northern British Columbia. My favourite tree was [italic]Pinus contorta[/italic], or lodgepole pine, R125!
|by Anonymous||reply 221||January 29, 2023 10:40 AM|
[quote]and is found intact with the spring thaw.
I think it’s a little late for that.
If he was cut or uncut, I’m sure it’ll remain the way it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||January 29, 2023 2:14 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 223||January 29, 2023 4:39 PM|
It looks like everybody has given up hope now.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||January 29, 2023 6:33 PM|
You mean there was hope?
|by Anonymous||reply 225||January 29, 2023 6:34 PM|
R224 State the fucking obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||January 29, 2023 6:40 PM|
[quote]A close friend and hiking partner of Julian Sands said it is obvious "something has gone wrong" after the British actor's disappearance in California's San Gabriel Mountains.
The kind of astute observation only a close friend could make.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||January 29, 2023 6:41 PM|
Is said close friend's name "Captain Obvious?"
|by Anonymous||reply 228||January 29, 2023 6:49 PM|
R222, Julian is cut. His cut cock can be observed in his nude scenes above.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||January 30, 2023 6:58 AM|
Do there's been more winter weather going through California, snow at moderate evelations, cold, and wind.
If there had been any hope before this weekend, it'd be gone now.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||January 30, 2023 12:27 PM|
“Julian is a male human,” longtime confidante has revealed
|by Anonymous||reply 231||January 30, 2023 12:42 PM|
It's pissing rain now, which means more snow at Mt. Baldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||January 30, 2023 2:01 PM|
Bless your heart, r229.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||January 30, 2023 5:28 PM|
Yet ANOTHER hiker rescued from Mt. Baldy, but still no sign of Julian Sands.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||January 30, 2023 8:12 PM|
Why not just rename it Suicide Mountain?
|by Anonymous||reply 235||January 30, 2023 8:25 PM|
This is an interesting article on why Mt. Baldy is so enticing but also so dangerous.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||January 30, 2023 8:42 PM|
[quote] Yet ANOTHER hiker rescued from Mt. Baldy, but still no sign of Julian Sands.
That poor man Juliette Sand, he’s so polite, he keeps letting other people get ahead of him in the line to get rescued. He might regret that!
|by Anonymous||reply 237||January 30, 2023 10:18 PM|
"Why not just rename it Suicide Mountain?"
I prefer "Damn Fool Mountain".
|by Anonymous||reply 238||January 30, 2023 10:48 PM|
"Mt. Baldy" is an ugly, offensive name.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||January 30, 2023 10:49 PM|
Its better than mt hairy
|by Anonymous||reply 240||January 30, 2023 11:07 PM|
Oh, someone had to invoke how it's sad because he had three children.
How important to add.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||January 30, 2023 11:20 PM|
Should be renamed Mt. Julian!
|by Anonymous||reply 242||January 30, 2023 11:36 PM|
I’ll start the petition.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||January 30, 2023 11:58 PM|
Mt. Julian is a beautiful name.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||January 31, 2023 1:22 AM|
Mount Julian first, then mount Rupert Graves, then mount Daniel Day Lewis, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||January 31, 2023 1:44 AM|
He must’ve been a weak ass bitch if everyone else can get rescued but he can’t
|by Anonymous||reply 246||January 31, 2023 2:11 AM|
Julian is a mountain town in San Diego County. I used to live about 8 miles away from it growing up and it was still somewhat quaint up there, known as "apple country" where people would drive to in the Fall for a weekend day getaway to get some apples (or famous Julian Apple Pie) and walk around the very small town. If you drove a little East of it in the winter, you could go sledding sometimes as well.
I know it's changed a LOT since I moved away in the late 80s and now has fast food places; it's apparently nothing like its former self.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||January 31, 2023 2:13 AM|
[quote]Should be renamed Mt. Julian!
Mt. San Antonio (aka Mt. Baldy) is named after a canonized friar who devoted his life to helping the sick and the poor, so renaming it after a Hollywood actor who thought hiking was fun might not be such a great idea.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||January 31, 2023 3:08 AM|
He was 65, so at least he lived a good life, even though he was still fit and could have probably gone on another decade or two at least. He had to understand the risks of his hobby, especially after almost dying once. I don't think it is so terrible to go out doing what you love, as long as the suffering wasn't too prolonged. I hope it was a fall that killed him instantly.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||January 31, 2023 6:39 AM|
He loved being at one with nature.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||January 31, 2023 7:24 AM|
While we’re waiting for what will undoubtedly be sad news, here are some pictures to look at documenting the last few years of Julian’s life, primarily at events in Los Angeles.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||February 1, 2023 1:45 AM|
[quote]I don't think it is so terrible to go out doing what you love, as long as the suffering wasn't too prolonged.
It's that sort of idiotic attitude that leads to more and more deaths like this. You are a fool.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||February 1, 2023 1:54 AM|
R251 Are you reeling in the years?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||February 1, 2023 1:55 AM|
Someone must have objected to his Wiki page having Julian described as WAS because he is now back to being IS.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||February 1, 2023 3:46 AM|
It's actually a bummer that this is how the story ends. I forgot how much I liked the guy and his disappearance reawakened a lot memories for many of us. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for the guy, and sad about his demise. It's just a weird-ass situation. I hate the lack of closure, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||February 1, 2023 3:51 AM|
[quote] a weird-ass situation
His muscled arse has gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||February 1, 2023 6:29 AM|
He had a muscled ass, but he couldn't hike forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||February 1, 2023 9:03 AM|
Do they lavish this amount of attention when a Black goes missing?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||February 1, 2023 9:08 AM|
[quote]I hate the lack of closure, too.
There’s closure: dude’s dayd.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||February 1, 2023 2:53 PM|
[quote] Julian is a mountain town in San Diego County. I used to live about 8 miles away from it growing up and it was still somewhat quaint up there, known as "apple country" where people would drive to in the Fall for a weekend day getaway to get some apples (or famous Julian Apple Pie) and walk around the very small town. If you drove a little East of it in the winter, you could go sledding sometimes as well. I know it's changed a LOT since I moved away in the late 80s and now has fast food places; it's apparently nothing like its former self.
I was there a few years ago and the downtown area is still very charming. I didn't see fast food stuff but that may have been away from town itself. It seems very charming (if somewhat limited in scope) and I've wanted to go back for a while, but it's just sort of in a weird spot that isn't easy to get to from where we're usually traveling (either along the cost or to the "inland empire").
|by Anonymous||reply 260||February 1, 2023 3:02 PM|
During the 19 years I lived in San Diego, I used to go up to Julian occasionally. A challenge, even in the best weather, because there were only 2 different routes to drive up there, both very steep and twisting. Accidents are frequent.
Apart from that, it's a pleasant getaway, cooler in summer. And its apple pies are justifiably famous. In addition, after a season of wildfires, it was found that daffodils thrived in the area; so residents went about planting them everywhere.
Daffodils are my second favorite flower, after Hawaiian plumeria. Since moving west, I missed them. But, somehow, I never got around to driving up there to see them.
So now they’re famous for apples and daffodils.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||February 1, 2023 5:06 PM|
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
|by Anonymous||reply 262||February 1, 2023 11:29 PM|
Did they find him yet? Any updates or have they given up?
|by Anonymous||reply 263||February 2, 2023 12:16 AM|
No, he hasn’t been found. They’re still searching by helicopter and drones. There are dangerous winds and threats of more avalanches on the upper slopes where Sands was hiking. Local authorities say conditions on Mt. Baldy are now “seriously treacherous.”
|by Anonymous||reply 264||February 2, 2023 12:29 AM|
Thanks for the update R264. The media is very quiet about this. He must be dead after all this time.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||February 2, 2023 12:32 AM|
I’d rather die doing what I love best, relaxing in a comfortable safe place while pleasantly stoned,
|by Anonymous||reply 266||February 2, 2023 12:37 AM|
I’ve just returned from skiing at Big Bear, which is about 50 miles east of Baldy. There was a tremendous depth of snow at Big Bear, the heaviest in years, so it must also be very thick at Mt. Baldy. If Julian Sands fell and was injured or killed, the heavy snowfall would have easily covered him, making his body undetectable by aerial surveillance. Even worse, there have been avalanches at Big Bear and Mt. Baldy. If an avalanche buried him, his body probably wouldn’t be found until Spring.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||February 2, 2023 12:49 AM|
I keep saying this and I think I might be right - Annie Wilkes got him.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||February 2, 2023 1:16 AM|
He didn't get in the cockadoody car!
|by Anonymous||reply 269||February 2, 2023 1:18 AM|
Are you hoping that it gets funnier with repetition, R268?
|by Anonymous||reply 270||February 2, 2023 1:18 AM|
Yes. Yes I most definitely am R270.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||February 2, 2023 1:20 AM|
R271, slightly off topic, but I love people like you who don’t take things too seriously and can roll with a joke.
You make this place a pleasant experience.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||February 2, 2023 1:29 AM|
Fucking Mercury Retrograde strikes again
|by Anonymous||reply 273||February 2, 2023 1:59 AM|
Can't they send in an Imperial Probe or something?!
|by Anonymous||reply 274||February 2, 2023 2:55 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 275||February 2, 2023 7:37 AM|
“Stop hiking up Mt. Baldy. It’s dangerous.”
|by Anonymous||reply 276||February 2, 2023 3:03 PM|
He’s having a train run on him by a gang of Sasquatchs as we speak
|by Anonymous||reply 277||February 2, 2023 3:18 PM|
When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?
Remains identified by dental records
Clothing matches that worn on the last day he was seen
Recognized by searchers
He waved and said, “finally, motherfuckers”
This should have been a poll
|by Anonymous||reply 278||February 2, 2023 5:37 PM|
[quote]When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?
Advanced, I'd wager, unless he was deeply frozen, like a caveman in a glacier.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||February 2, 2023 5:58 PM|
Leave his corpse up there like they do on Mt. Everest. Let him be slowly absorbed back into the earth (or whatever is left after the local wildlife had their fill). I think he'd like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||February 2, 2023 6:11 PM|
[quote]When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?
California, I’m guessin’.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||February 2, 2023 6:54 PM|
More stay-away-from Mt. Baldy opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||February 2, 2023 7:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 283||February 2, 2023 10:52 PM|
Dangerous and possible record breaking windchills in northern New England for Friday and Saturday. The winds are going to be strong and the chill on Mt Washington may reach minus 50 degrees. Hikers are being warned not to hike above treeline on any mountain in the Whites for those two days. I hope not to hear of any hiker deaths.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||February 2, 2023 11:09 PM|
P.S. Ski areas are closing and that is extremely rare.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||February 2, 2023 11:15 PM|
Boy, is he gonna be surprised when they finally thaw him out, r279.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||February 2, 2023 11:23 PM|
They really ought to close trails like Mt. Baldy during winter snow conditions or summer heat waves, but it's hard to effectively close a hiking trail - determined hikers feel totally free to walk around any "DO NOT ENTER" sign or climb any fence, and are fit enough to get around any sort of barrier the forest service has available. Even if the road to the trailhead is closed, people like Sands would be fit enough to park downhill and walk a few extra miles, and get themselves in trouble in spite of the official attempts to save their fool lives.
Every corpse on Everest was once a highly motivated and extremely fit individual, after all.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||February 2, 2023 11:34 PM|
Another good, and depressing, newspaper article about the folly of climbing Mt. Baldy in winter conditions.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||February 3, 2023 1:24 AM|
Hot friend, hiking partner and fellow actor Kevin Ryan updates his concern. "Julian is beyond experienced and I'm hoping that he's tucked away somewhere and can pull through."
Ryan said the severe weather was 'something that Julian would have seen as a challenge'.
Still, he admitted that 'each day that does go by puts more pressure and I guess brings a lot of doubt in.'
|by Anonymous||reply 289||February 3, 2023 2:28 AM|
I am also concerned
|by Anonymous||reply 290||February 3, 2023 3:05 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 291||February 3, 2023 6:18 AM|
Use 12ft ladder, r291.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||February 3, 2023 7:43 AM|
Julian's Wikipedia page now says:
"This article is about a person who has been presumed dead." 😞
|by Anonymous||reply 293||February 3, 2023 7:47 AM|
collect that insurance, baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||February 3, 2023 8:00 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 295||February 3, 2023 8:03 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 296||February 3, 2023 8:04 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 297||February 3, 2023 8:07 AM|
So they still haven't found him? Why would he go do something like that, knowing his family would be worried to death and not have any closure, possibly for years? I just couldn't do that shit to my family.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||February 3, 2023 8:45 AM|
Will they find his decomposed body in time for him to be included in this year's Oscars "In Memoriam" segment? That's pretty much the only interesting question regarding this story left.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||February 3, 2023 10:31 AM|
Thanks for the tip on 12 Ft ladder
|by Anonymous||reply 300||February 3, 2023 2:32 PM|
R299 The In Memoriam segment will be for people who died in 2022. Julian will have to wait for another year. Maybe his body will be found by then.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||February 3, 2023 2:53 PM|
[quote]Thanks for the tip on 12 Ft ladder
You're welcome, r300. I try to pay for whatever I can, but sometimes, ya just gotta find a work around. It doesn't work for everything: New York Times, for example.
It's a useful tool.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||February 3, 2023 4:32 PM|
I, uh, thought "12ft ladder" was someone being sarcastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||February 3, 2023 4:34 PM|
r303 I totally did too
|by Anonymous||reply 304||February 3, 2023 4:36 PM|
That would be funny if he's shown in the In Memoriam segment then he storms on stage and screams "I'm not dead, bitches!!!"
|by Anonymous||reply 305||February 3, 2023 5:38 PM|
Sometimes they seem to include recent deaths but he has not been declared dead, except on Wiki.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||February 3, 2023 7:39 PM|
He's fine. He's having tea and crumpets with a family of black bears. He sends his love.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||February 3, 2023 7:49 PM|
They’re still conducting aerial searches for the guy. This seems interminable.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||February 4, 2023 1:00 AM|
He's still dead, Jim.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||February 4, 2023 4:24 AM|
R301, they usually include people who died up until the time when the In Memoriam segment is edited together, so anyone who dies early in 2023 has a shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||February 4, 2023 7:53 AM|
if the search is now intermittent you wonder how intermittent that means.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||February 4, 2023 10:48 AM|
He’s dead, Mr. Finch. Let the dead bury the dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||February 4, 2023 12:29 PM|
I just got a text from a friend who’s skiing Mt. Baldy this weekend. There’s plenty of snow and three of four lifts are open. Skiers are cautioned about avalanche threat in off-piste areas. More snow is forecast for tomorrow. Julian Sands is probably going to be concealed by snow until spring.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||February 4, 2023 4:22 PM|
Did they warn skiers about tripping over Julian's corpse?
|by Anonymous||reply 314||February 4, 2023 7:29 PM|
Jada IS Julian Sands in the Lifetime movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||February 4, 2023 7:39 PM|
At this point, with weeks past and deep snow on the trail, that probably means that whenever the forest service people see some guy with a drone, they ask him to have a look.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||February 4, 2023 7:41 PM|
I'm actually shocked that NONE of his co-stars of ARWAV issued a pained statement, declaring how wonderful he is/was and how devastated they are. He must be quite a tool. Did Ivory even bothered to say anything ? he must be senile anyway. Maggie is above social media, and so are DDL and Bonham-Carter, but at least Simon Callow ? Funny how everyone involved in this instant classic became a mega star, except for the lead. Like all of you who were teenagers when it first came out, my videotape of the movie was embarrassingly white stripped during the naked pond scene, due to heavy slow-motion replay. Poor guy was evidently not well liked in the business, I wonder why exactly ?
|by Anonymous||reply 317||February 5, 2023 12:09 AM|
R317, maybe they're waiting until his body is found
|by Anonymous||reply 318||February 5, 2023 12:10 AM|
R317 I had wondered why I couldn’t find any comments from any of the ARWAV crew. I thought at least James Ivory would have said something. I had wondered why Julian had backed out of Maurice at the last minute. That was certainly a very bad career move. I thought it might have been because Julian didn’t want to play a gay character and this had led to a falling out with Ivory, hence Ivory giving no public comment on Julian’s disappearance. Maybe we’ll never know.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||February 5, 2023 12:18 AM|
Ivory said in 1987 Sands withdrew from "Maurice" for personal reasons. His marriage was crumbling and he was divorced that same year.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||February 5, 2023 12:23 AM|
I didn't think he was very ggod, or attractive in the movie, but I must say I felt a little pang at the news of his, well, death, let's not fool ourselves. It brought me back to these wonderful years of MY BEAUTIFUL LAUNDERETTE, or ANOTHER COUNTRY, when it seemed to this teenager that fucking hot guys was a completely normal and desirable thing. Nobody said it was gay, back then, or these were gay movies. not everything and everyone were tagged and branded. Good times
|by Anonymous||reply 321||February 5, 2023 12:24 AM|
Oh yeah, back in the 80s guys fucked each other all the time in mainstream movies and no one thought twice about it. (Commences series of eye rolls)
By the way, My Beautiful Laundrette and Another Country could be found in the "Cult/Gay" section of the video store.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||February 5, 2023 12:31 AM|
R320 I can easily imagine James Ivory invoking ‘personal reasons’ as a euphemism for more than Sands’ divorce proceedings. It’s notable that Sands never worked with Ivory again. I also wonder if Sands was uncomfortable with playing a gay character.
It may be an unpopular opinion here, but I don’t really think Sands is a good actor. He has an interesting presence at times, but he doesn’t convey much character in his performances. In ARWAV, he was vapid and blank-faced. Daniel Day Lewis, despite having to play a ridiculous character, at least gave a fully rounded performance. He was even able to engender sympathy at times.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||February 5, 2023 12:36 AM|
R322, rest your eyes, hun, I was living in Europe back then, with my parents, not in fascist Murica. All these movies were completely mainstream
|by Anonymous||reply 324||February 5, 2023 12:36 AM|
Sands played gay in Man in An Orange Shirt
|by Anonymous||reply 325||February 5, 2023 12:47 AM|
r305 more likely.. breaking news: a celebrity has been arrested in the Philippines.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||February 5, 2023 12:58 AM|
Did Ivory try anything on him during the shooting ?
|by Anonymous||reply 327||February 5, 2023 12:59 AM|
Maybe Ivory followed him on Mt Baldy and pushed him over the edge so that he wouldn't sue for the bare-assed sequence in ROOM WITH A VIEW ?
|by Anonymous||reply 328||February 5, 2023 1:01 AM|
r232 He railed against the trope of casting brits as gays in early interviews, if I recall. . . but perhaps that was a reaction to the tabloids when he was Jodie Foster's merkin.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||February 5, 2023 1:02 AM|
his mysterious and Thoreauesque demise on mt Baldy gives him a certain allure that compensates for the botched career. He will be remembered as the beautiful blond nature lover of "a room with a view "who died untimely in the great big open, rather than "what's his name the guy who flopped from room with a view"
|by Anonymous||reply 330||February 5, 2023 1:12 AM|
The story of Gerry Largay at r283 is so sad. At one point searchers were within 100 feet of where her remains were found. It’s possible she heard them but was too weak to cry out…🥺. The friend who had accompanied her on the hiking trip but had to drop out because of a family matter must have been riddled with guilt.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||February 5, 2023 1:24 AM|
R330 Yes, his claim to fame will be freezing to death on Mt. Baldy. Good career move, as they say.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||February 5, 2023 1:34 AM|
Has well known Mount Baldy hiker Susan Dey made a comment yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 333||February 5, 2023 3:03 AM|
I'll stick up for the deceased here. He was fine in Room with a View because all he had to play was the natural, hunky, truth and beauty-seeking, sexy child of god. He was the foil to DDL's mannered, unsexy aesthete. He didn't have to do much acting, he just had to show up. (Well done, James Ivory.)
As to his botched career--maybe he wasn't in it for stardom? It takes a lot to have and maintain an A-list career. Maybe being a jobbing actor with lots of time for family and outdoor pursuits was good enough for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||February 5, 2023 5:49 AM|
i watched the Gerry Lagay video too and cried a little. Definitely touched me that she wrote letters to everyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||February 5, 2023 5:53 AM|
On top of Mt. Baldy, all covered with snow.... 🎶
|by Anonymous||reply 336||February 5, 2023 5:57 AM|
[quote] his mysterious and Thoreauesque demise on mt Baldy
His character in 'A room With A View' invokes H. D. Thoreau.
The 'sacred' pond in which they are 'baptised' in the nude invokes Walden Pond.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||February 5, 2023 6:58 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 338||February 5, 2023 7:11 AM|
Maybe he's alive and surviving by drinking his own urine and eating his own limbs.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||February 5, 2023 10:59 AM|
R332=Natalie Wood, posting from the great beyond
|by Anonymous||reply 340||February 5, 2023 11:06 AM|
He always seemed special needs to me, but never more so than in the pond sequence. " Freddy", OTOH, was so HOT it made my eyes bleed.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||February 5, 2023 11:16 AM|
Julian didn't know that he was being filmed nude in ARWAV. They promised him nothing would be shown. The emotional distress and toll on his life and career led to his suicide on Mt Baldy. On behalf of his family, I would sue for damage reparation in excess of $1 billion
|by Anonymous||reply 342||February 5, 2023 12:08 PM|
[quote] eating his own limbs.
each cheek could provide for a week at least, that is, after a few days chomping on that chode alone
|by Anonymous||reply 343||February 5, 2023 12:37 PM|
We lived in Europe and was all Europeany and mondain and homoeroticism and love between hommes was completely mainstream and ordinaire and never labelled because we were, after all very Europeany and cosmopolitan and sophistiqué.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||February 5, 2023 12:59 PM|
EXACTLY R344. At least one here understands one's experience in the sophisticated world of rarefied aired Europe.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||February 5, 2023 1:09 PM|
If they lower Helena Bonham Carter down from helicopter in the middle of it all, wouldn’t that draw him out?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||February 5, 2023 1:28 PM|
[quote]Julian's Wikipedia page now says: "This article is about a person who has been presumed dead." 😞
And yet Keanu's Wikipedia page is about a person who is presumed alive, and still walks among us. And I'm angry, again.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||February 5, 2023 1:36 PM|
R342 = Leonard Whiting. Or maybe Olivia Hussey.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||February 5, 2023 1:39 PM|
R325 I’m now wondering if playing a gay man in Maurice was more than he could take in the early part of his career. He had the chance to play the lead role in a film by a director who was riding the acclaim of ARWAV. It’s hard to imagine any young actor passing up that opportunity. There were several intimate scenes in Maurice, including two males kissing. That may have frightened him.
It wasn’t until 35 years into his career that he played a gay role, his only performance as a gay man. The character was older and there were no intimate scenes in which his masculinity would be challenged. Also, at this point in his career, he was working playing minor parts in only one or two productions a year. He was probably accepting just about anything he was offered.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||February 5, 2023 3:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 350||February 5, 2023 3:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 351||February 5, 2023 5:11 PM|
R349 He was in an all boy boarding school in England, so he must have been really tired of sucking cock, or having his sucked, by the time he reached 18. as Tu-tu Weld said, I didn't want to play LOLITA, because I WAS Lolita.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||February 5, 2023 5:21 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 353||February 5, 2023 8:32 PM|
R353 Love The Killing Fields.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||February 5, 2023 8:35 PM|
Wiki page changed again deleted presumed dead notation.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||February 7, 2023 7:53 AM|
Status is missing.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||February 7, 2023 7:53 AM|
R354 Well, we hope you’re going to like The Killing Mountains just as much then!
|by Anonymous||reply 357||February 7, 2023 1:52 PM|
Maybe he just wants to be left alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||February 7, 2023 1:53 PM|
A pulse, Rose!
|by Anonymous||reply 359||February 7, 2023 4:27 PM|
I dod hope they find him. But I don't think there is even a remote chance of him being alive now. It's been too long. He's dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||February 7, 2023 4:37 PM|
I haven't been watching the news much. Is he still missing?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||February 7, 2023 4:44 PM|
Yes and where are down to intermittent searching.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||February 7, 2023 5:24 PM|
Are we still searching for Natalee Holloway?
|by Anonymous||reply 363||February 7, 2023 5:35 PM|
We're still searching for Judge Crater.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||February 7, 2023 5:42 PM|
Well, I'm still searching for the REAL killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||February 7, 2023 5:45 PM|
OJ should join the search, maybe the real killer will be hanging out on Mt. Baldy
|by Anonymous||reply 366||February 7, 2023 6:16 PM|
R357 LOLZ !
|by Anonymous||reply 367||February 7, 2023 6:56 PM|
There was another rescue from Mt. Baldy this past weekend.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||February 7, 2023 7:30 PM|
did they CHECK THE CABINS ??????????
|by Anonymous||reply 369||February 7, 2023 7:32 PM|
Maybe the little bunnies and the little fawns and the turtle are feeding him ?
|by Anonymous||reply 370||February 7, 2023 7:33 PM|
Has Susan Dey issued a statement?
|by Anonymous||reply 371||February 7, 2023 7:46 PM|
R371 Sure when you post the same thing, but include a Little Women’s era picture the WW come tumbling in, but not for me at R333!
|by Anonymous||reply 372||February 7, 2023 8:29 PM|
But you’re hotter than he is, so you’ve got that going for you.
Let the poor dear have his.
(I’m only teasing, r371!)
|by Anonymous||reply 373||February 7, 2023 9:31 PM|
I condole you, r372.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||February 7, 2023 9:39 PM|
Julian Sands is supposed to be an experienced hiker who was very familiar with Mt. Baldy. I’ve read that he hiked it numerous times, so he must have been carrying the right equipment. It’s a little baffling why they can’t find any trace of him. Several other hikers who got into trouble on the mountain have been rescued, but not Julian.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||February 8, 2023 12:38 AM|
Buried under an avalanche, perhaps? There were several deaths in the Alps from avalanches over the past week or so.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||February 8, 2023 12:42 AM|
I suspect he injured himself, and could not get help.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||February 8, 2023 12:47 AM|
He should've bought a Life Alert.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||February 8, 2023 1:00 AM|
I think his body will probably be found at the bottom of the Baldy Bowl. The trail that traverses the rim of the bowl is one of the longest segments of the trail to the mountain’s summit. It’s also very precarious, with a drop of 500 to 900 feet. I’ve hiked it many times, but never in winter. It’s treacherous enough when dry. I’ve read many stories of hikers in winter realizing that the trail is actually a thick slab of ice with a deceptive cover of snow. Going up the trail, the precipitous drop is to the hiker’s right. To the left is a steep upward slope. Large chunks of ice the size of bowling balls or larger routinely break off and roll down the mountain striking hikers. This happened to one of the hikers who recently had to be rescued. Fortunately, he wasn’t knocked off the trail and down into the bowl. There’s a good possibility that this is what happened to Sands.
|by Anonymous||reply 379||February 8, 2023 1:12 AM|
That doesn't sound like a remotely pleasant hike.
|by Anonymous||reply 380||February 8, 2023 2:18 AM|
How strange to be reading about this ghoulish looking man all these years later
|by Anonymous||reply 381||February 8, 2023 3:44 AM|
[quote]That doesn't sound like a remotely pleasant hike.
These reckless idiots don't care if the hike is "pleasant." They probably prefer that it's unpleasant. They're just trying to prove something to themselves and to other people, and many of them end up dead, which they deserve for deliberately putting themselves in a dangerous situation when there was no real need to do so other than satisfying their own egos.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||February 8, 2023 3:53 AM|
R379, indeed, a woman who died on Baldy this winter was seen tumbling down a slope without making any apparent effort to stop herself. It is thought that she may have been hit by ice and knocked unconscious. My guess is that Julian Sands died in an avalanche, which is at least a quicker death than being stuck on the mountain for days.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||February 8, 2023 4:01 AM|
R383 Wasn’t that a plot point in the Lindsay Lohan Christmas RomCom movie on streaming?
|by Anonymous||reply 384||February 8, 2023 5:16 AM|
This movie gets the MST3K treatment on the Netflix reboot, and I highly recommend it.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||February 8, 2023 5:33 AM|
Nothing in the world could force me to go hiking in a snowy moutain. Or anywhere else for that matter. Why do people even do that ?
|by Anonymous||reply 386||February 8, 2023 5:35 AM|
R381 = Helena Bonham-Carter
|by Anonymous||reply 387||February 8, 2023 5:37 AM|
What happens if they never find his body?
How long before he is declared dead?
|by Anonymous||reply 388||February 8, 2023 5:40 AM|
r386 I had a relationship with a guy who would go winter camping - in the snow, in New York. I kid you not.
We did not do that together.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||February 8, 2023 5:46 AM|
r386 I am wondering the same thing. What is the attraction?
|by Anonymous||reply 390||February 8, 2023 5:48 AM|
R399 Reincarnated Shackleton and crew reliving their past lives looking for an out.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||February 8, 2023 5:57 AM|
[quote] a woman who died on Baldy this winter was seen tumbling down a slope without making any apparent effort to stop herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||February 8, 2023 6:03 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 393||February 8, 2023 6:11 AM|
He's dead! I just know it! He had a hot ass (35-40 years ago) but he couldn't live forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||February 8, 2023 6:24 AM|
R394 Is the late Denholm Elliott speaking from the grave
|by Anonymous||reply 395||February 8, 2023 6:27 AM|
[quote] I suspect he injured himself, and could not get help.
Oh good, Jane marple has arrived
|by Anonymous||reply 396||February 8, 2023 6:33 AM|
I wonder if Julian's disappearance will serve as a cautionary tale to future hikers.
|by Anonymous||reply 397||February 8, 2023 7:00 AM|
[quote]I wonder if Julian's disappearance will serve as a cautionary tale to future hikers.
It's more likely that they'll see it as a challenge to succeed where he failed.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||February 8, 2023 7:03 AM|
Hiking Mt. Baldy? Soft snow can rapidly turn into unforgiving ice.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||February 8, 2023 7:07 AM|
watching THE KILLING FIELDS for the first time as I type. Good movie right there, but WTF ??? San Wasterston is so sensual and sexy in an blatantly homoerotic way. Is Joffé gay ??
|by Anonymous||reply 400||February 8, 2023 7:39 AM|
The yellow guy is watching semi naked Sam and biting his lip !!! Sexy Sam is eye fucking him !!!! What's happening here ?????
|by Anonymous||reply 401||February 8, 2023 7:48 AM|
it's a love story between two guys !!!!!!!!!!!! it's not even covered up !!!!!!!!!!!!! it's right there on the screen. Yellow guy cries because he doesn't want to leave Sidney, and Sidney is beaming with joy / cut to the scene where yellow guy at home tells wife that she's gonna be evacuated with the US army, and there's a giant framed picture of Sidney in their living room !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's a Gay war movie . What ???????
|by Anonymous||reply 402||February 8, 2023 8:18 AM|
Still reporting from THE KILLING FIELDS. Julian is so beautiful in this. So young. Strange to think that while I'm watching, his dead body is still lying on mt Baldy under a pile of snow. This has got to be one of the weirdest celebrity deaths of all time. Also because it's a shout out to a long gone era. I was fckng 15 when A ROOM WITH A VIEW opened, and had never heard of, or given a thought to the guy again. Now he's entered the pantheon of my 80's heroes
|by Anonymous||reply 403||February 8, 2023 8:56 AM|
[quote] fckng 15
Ooh, do tell.
|by Anonymous||reply 404||February 8, 2023 9:05 AM|
R404 you gross. Don't be that person.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||February 8, 2023 9:12 AM|
Ending my report here : KILLING FIELDS is a great movie, highly recommandable, I really enjoyed it. Beautiful acting, beautiful storytelling, amazing cinematography. I loved the first part better than the rest. Ben is a naughty boy, Argo is a carbon copy of it. The two romantic leads are perfect. Sam is HAWT. He's much hotter as a gay man. I felt sorry that the other actor was murdered, his life story is as riveting as the movie itself, and he was very handsome and charismatic. I also felt sorry for myself for not seeing it at the time. Julian was stunning, and very good. It's amazing that he didn't become a STAR after this and ARWAV. Also, I want to go back to the 80's.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||February 8, 2023 1:19 PM|
What r379 describes is more like alpining, which a lot of people like doing- I really wouldn't call it hiking. Did it twice (Mt. Baldy and somewhere in the Sierras), it's way too taxing- you have to wear crampons, your backpack (if you're doing overnights-mine was 35-50 lbs), and sometimes if it's too steep, you have to go up sideways, foot over foot, rather than your body being oriented forward. It's just fucking trudging to the top. And if you're in altitude, it feels like you have asthma with the thinner air.
If Julian brought overnight supplies (sleeping bag, food, tinder, etc), he might be camping out in a hollow, or mini cave. He wouldn't die of dehydration though, because of the snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||February 8, 2023 1:41 PM|
R407 that's most probably what's happening, darling. Julian is camping out in a mini cave, having his water supply from the snow, and he will be found very soon now.
|by Anonymous||reply 408||February 8, 2023 1:51 PM|
R408- that was IF. Highly doubtful if he did.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||February 8, 2023 1:59 PM|
[quote] you have to wear crampons,
What if it’s not your time of the month? Are these still necessary?
|by Anonymous||reply 410||February 8, 2023 2:02 PM|
[quote]Are we still searching for Natalee Holloway?
[quote]We're still searching for Judge Crater.
What are we? Nothing but maggot invested rotted flesh?
|by Anonymous||reply 411||February 8, 2023 2:05 PM|
The Lindbergh baby was found.
You can stop looking now.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||February 8, 2023 2:07 PM|
I thought snow was not healthy to eat.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||February 8, 2023 2:11 PM|
R382 You call people who engage in risky sports “reckless idiots.” There’s a lot of truth in that. But it’s possible to take knowing risks with a level of skill that is equal to the risk. In my twenties and early thirties, one of my favorite sports was mountain climbing. I took classes in it and spent a lot of time on what’s known as a “practice wall” that simulates climbing challenges. There was a practice wall at a facility in West LA where I spent a required 100 hours before making my first climb. I climbed with experienced, knowledgeable people, and we had the right equipment. I never climbed in the winter, but there was often snow and ice at upper elevations. When we reached the summit or whatever our climbing goal was, there was an incredible sense of accomplishment and satisfaction. But I’ll also admit that there’s a lot of narcissism in all this.
Nowadays, I limit climbing to whatever can be done without any specialized equipment. I pretty much limit my activity to simple hiking, arduous or not.
Julian Sands was apparently a very experienced climber, so I’m sure he had the required skills and equipment. What he lacked was simple common sense. He went hiking alone, which is the single worst thing a climber can do. When I mentioned that there’s narcissism involved in completing a climb, there’s an even greater level of narcissism in thinking that as a lone person, you can meet any challenge. Julian Sands must have been this narcissistic and has paid the price.
|by Anonymous||reply 414||February 8, 2023 2:12 PM|
No, just the yellow snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||February 8, 2023 2:13 PM|
I'm normally very judgy, but I don't get why people are being so judgmental here. Of course he knew he was taking a risk. He'd almost died on a mountain many years ago. He knew it was dangerous. He chose to take the risk. Calling him narcissistic or stupid or whatever is silly. Different people, different choices.
(I do understand about people being pissed off about emergency services being forced to look for people who hike on steep, snowy mountains. But driving is also dangerous; cops and EMTs have to scrape people off the highway.)
|by Anonymous||reply 416||February 8, 2023 4:58 PM|
Look. Anytime a person engages in some high risk foolishness he puts others at risk. Period. The people who refuse to evacuate for hurricanes or tornadoes, and fires, and go mountain climbing in snow and ice etc. all depend on others to rescue them if they have bad luck or fuck up.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||February 8, 2023 5:06 PM|
[quote]I'm normally very judgy, but I don't get why people are being so judgmental here. Of course he knew he was taking a risk. He'd almost died on a mountain many years ago. He knew it was dangerous. He chose to take the risk. Calling him narcissistic or stupid or whatever is silly.
R417 has one excellent answer for you. Another answer is that presumably everyone who indulges in high-risk activity for no good reason other than thrills has at least SOME family and/or loved ones in their lives, so their death while doing something completely unnecessary deeply impacts those people.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||February 8, 2023 5:18 PM|
I've watched a few recent interviews and it seems to me that Julian, apart from looking ghastly, was not there-there
|by Anonymous||reply 419||February 8, 2023 9:10 PM|
R419 He comes across as almost loony in this. I always thought that he had an odd and stilted way of speaking. That’s very evident in this video v
|by Anonymous||reply 420||February 8, 2023 10:24 PM|
[quote] He comes across as…
He is talking in 'theater mode'. His director should have told him to use 'subtle mode'.
|by Anonymous||reply 421||February 8, 2023 11:18 PM|
IMDB says Julian has five films or television shows in post production, so he’ll be on a screen several times in 2023. Ominously, one thing he’s in is called “The Last Breath”.
|by Anonymous||reply 422||February 9, 2023 12:39 AM|
Glad to see him working, I miss his hot face on my TV screen
|by Anonymous||reply 423||February 9, 2023 12:41 AM|
His mouth forms words as though he has suffered a stroke. Maybe he did actually have a stroke at some point?
|by Anonymous||reply 424||February 9, 2023 1:28 AM|
I don't think there's anything weird about the way he speaks in that video. Some of you cranks just don't recognize good, clear, pronunciation of English with a Brit accent when you hear it
|by Anonymous||reply 425||February 9, 2023 1:38 AM|
R424 I remember his odd way of speaking as far back as A Room With A View. He seems very affected in the way he speaks and does contorted things with his mouth and jaw. I thought he was great looking in ARWAV but his stiff and contrived manner was very off-putting.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||February 9, 2023 1:38 AM|
R424 He's talked like that in all his films.
|by Anonymous||reply 427||February 9, 2023 2:11 AM|
[quote] Yes and where are down to intermittent searching.
Is he doing intermittent fasting? I tell you, it works!
|by Anonymous||reply 428||February 9, 2023 2:23 AM|
R424 He speaks (well, probably, “spoke”) with Received Pronunciation. Obviously a challenge for our American contributors to understand but the rest of the world seems to understand with no problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||February 9, 2023 4:51 AM|
R429 “Spake” perhaps?
|by Anonymous||reply 430||February 9, 2023 9:19 AM|
Received Pronunciation (RP) is the standard dialect of British English. It is the accent of English that is considered to be standard or neutral. RP is also known as the Queen’s English, Oxford English, or BBC English. The term “Received Pronunciation” was first used by Alexander Ellis in 1869.
|by Anonymous||reply 431||February 9, 2023 10:13 AM|
I may be feeling sentimental due to the poor man's demise, but I'm enjoying the video from R419 very much. I'd like to hear Julian speak with his original Northern England accent, but they likely flogged it out of him at school.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||February 9, 2023 11:40 AM|
[quote]What he lacked was simple common sense.
Plenty of people misjudge the weather or base their decision to go ahead on the last time they hiked the area, unaware of changes or differences since then, and that's not a lack of common sense. He'd been hiking for so long that I would guess whatever happened to him was either a mistake or bad luck, rather than carelessness or cluelessness.
|by Anonymous||reply 433||February 9, 2023 11:46 AM|
I think he had bad luck, R433. I think he was injured and couldn't get help and died.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||February 9, 2023 11:50 AM|
R433, perhaps you missed the little tidbit of info that Sands almost died on a mountain years ago. If someone has a near-death experience when doing something that's completely unnecessary, except for the thrill factor, and then chooses to do it AGAIN, then I would say that person lacks simple common sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||February 9, 2023 12:36 PM|
R433 it’s simple common sense to never hike or climb alone, particularly in a remote area with known dangers.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||February 9, 2023 1:32 PM|
I think this is going to be fabulous! Julian is part of what looks like an incredible movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||February 9, 2023 2:25 PM|
R437 I’ve read that Julian was given the part at the insistence of John Malkovich.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||February 9, 2023 2:29 PM|
A reminder of his former beauty.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||February 9, 2023 3:17 PM|
[Quote]I thought snow was not healthy to eat.
you must be from New York
|by Anonymous||reply 440||February 9, 2023 3:19 PM|
R437 - Geez unless Julian has no lines they could have given him something in the trailer as a tribute.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||February 9, 2023 3:24 PM|
My theory is his remains will be found the morning of the Oscars just to fuck with the In Memoriam tribute.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||February 9, 2023 3:36 PM|
Tilda Swinton IS Julian in the Lifetime movie!
|by Anonymous||reply 443||February 9, 2023 3:45 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 444||February 9, 2023 10:18 PM|
"What he lacked was simple common sense. He went hiking alone, which is the single worst thing a climber can do."
Worse than going hiking alone, was that he went hiking in SERIOUS storm conditions. The week he went missing was a week when California saw the most serious storms it's seen for a decade or two, when there was deep snow where it wouldn't be expected, stealth ice, landslides and avalanches, etc. I know Sands had lived in California for "twenty years", but as both his work and his hobbies meant frequent travel, he may not have been in California when it was being seriously pounded by winter storms, he may not have realized that he was walking into conditions where the wind might blow him across the ice on the trail and into the Baldy Bowl avalanche basin, or whatever happened.
Well, there are worse ways to go out than to die doing something you love, and I say that because I'm in my sixties too and I still take risks. If I go out now, then boo hoo I won't have to deal with old age, so bring on the sea kayaks and live volcanoes! I just hope it was quick for him. Or for me, if it comes to that.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||February 9, 2023 11:46 PM|
My. Baldy forecast: Clear tomorrow, more snow Saturday night. Julian’s body is safely encased in ice and snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||February 10, 2023 1:00 AM|
Let’s meet up in 60 years!
|by Anonymous||reply 447||February 10, 2023 1:56 AM|
The ice and snow should keep him well-preserved until spring, when he’ll finally be found. He’ll still be ready for his closeup.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||February 10, 2023 1:56 AM|
R444 I try hard to feel sympathy for these two human dumpsters, but I can't. I think they deserved their fate, and she should have died gruesomely too. NO, actually, she deserves to live to regret her stupidity. Unequipped, unprepared, told no one of their whereabouts and warned against the hike by the locals. They couldn't even speak english. When that cunt was in the hut, she couldn't read the instructions for the radio. People like that make me sick. Like these dutch or swedish female tourists who go camping alone in remote parts of terrosists infested muslims countries, or hike in the Columbian jungle. Or that guy who went swimming in rough waters off the coast of Australia last summer, fully clad in a seal suit, and was filmed being chomped to pieces by a great white. I can't. I even call my mother on the phone (upstairs) when I climb up a step to replace a light bulb.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||February 10, 2023 3:54 AM|
He hasn't looked well for some time. Depression? (Along with a bad case of mange). Maybe he wanted to check out and he chose this way. One last hike, found a nice spot to sit or lie down in and let the cold do the rest of the work. I've read accounts from people who nearly froze to death, that you start feeling very, very sleepy and just drift off.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||February 10, 2023 6:12 AM|
[quote]r427 He's talked like that in all his films.
Well then, I’m glad he’s dead!
|by Anonymous||reply 451||February 10, 2023 6:56 AM|
[quote]r429 He speaks (well, probably, “spoke”) with Received Pronunciation.
Is that caused by receiving a lot of cock in your mouth?
|by Anonymous||reply 452||February 10, 2023 6:58 AM|
No, R452 - it’s caused by not being an American rube.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||February 10, 2023 7:09 AM|
Gotta love the UK—you have to learn and then keep a specific accent (not the one you grew up with) just to have a chance to do well. I’ll stick with the hood ok’ USA, where how your $ talks is what’s important, not to your adopted accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 454||February 10, 2023 10:06 AM|
* good ol’ USA
|by Anonymous||reply 455||February 10, 2023 10:06 AM|
I never faked an American accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||February 10, 2023 10:08 AM|
[quote]I've read accounts from people who nearly froze to death, that you start feeling very, very sleepy and just drift off.
I'll believe it when I hear it from someone who actually froze to death.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||February 10, 2023 10:10 AM|
R454 The Brits are retaining their regional accents. This detailed video is accurate—
|by Anonymous||reply 458||February 10, 2023 10:18 AM|
[quote]or hike in the Columbian jungle.
Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.
|by Anonymous||reply 459||February 10, 2023 10:33 AM|
[quote]Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.
|by Anonymous||reply 460||February 10, 2023 10:36 AM|
Well, there was that girl that got stabbed to death in Morningside Park a few years ago…
|by Anonymous||reply 461||February 10, 2023 11:40 AM|
And, Morningside is in Harlem not the UWS.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||February 10, 2023 12:18 PM|
It seems pretty far-fetched to think that Julian is still alive, but it’s nice to know that some people still hold out hope.
|by Anonymous||reply 463||February 10, 2023 1:26 PM|
[quote]Or that guy who went swimming in rough waters off the coast of Australia last summer, fully clad in a seal suit, and was filmed being chomped to pieces by a great white.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||February 10, 2023 3:52 PM|
R464 Here it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||February 10, 2023 7:00 PM|
That poor little Kintner boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||February 10, 2023 8:02 PM|
Reality is setting in. Julian is a goner.
|by Anonymous||reply 467||February 10, 2023 10:18 PM|
In planning a hike in a wilderness area, two of the most important things are to let someone know where you’ll be and to have at least one hiking partner. Julian told his wife where he would be hiking that Friday and what time he intended to be home. But he went alone, which was foolish, especially for a location such as Mt. Baldy. His wife contacted the Sheriff’s office Friday evening when he hadn’t returned. The Sheriff started a foot search that evening, despite deteriorating weather conditions. This continued on Saturday, until a heavy storm set in, but an aerial search was begun. No time was lost in searching for him. His body must have been covered in snow after he presumably fell, since there was heavy snowfall that started on Friday night. He could also have been buried under an avalanche. I don’t think his body is going to be found until the snow and ice begin to melt.
|by Anonymous||reply 468||February 10, 2023 10:35 PM|
[quote]Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.
Now Hudson University, on the other hand ...
|by Anonymous||reply 469||February 11, 2023 12:20 AM|
He looks like a hobo in recent pictures
|by Anonymous||reply 470||February 11, 2023 2:38 AM|
Maybe he hit his head on a rock and lost his memory, found his way onto the valley, and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ? these things happen
|by Anonymous||reply 471||February 11, 2023 6:59 AM|
[quote] Nothing in the world could force me to go hiking in a snowy moutain. Or anywhere else for that matter. Why do people even do that ?
The San Gabriel Mtns/Angeles Forest has the misfortune of being located right next to one of the country's largest metros, and so they attract lots of city people who aren't necessarily familiar with the dangers of the great outdoors. City people can tend to treat mother nature like a theme park.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||February 11, 2023 7:10 AM|
A song, for Julian:
|by Anonymous||reply 473||February 11, 2023 7:12 AM|
[quote]Maybe he hit his head on a rock and lost his memory, found his way onto the valley, and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ? these things happen—Valene Ewing
They most certainly do.
|by Anonymous||reply 474||February 11, 2023 8:14 AM|
A friend of mine is an avid hiker. He said he did Mt Baldy in summer and there was still snow in parts and that it was still sketchy. He said going up there in the dead of winter is a deathwish
|by Anonymous||reply 475||February 11, 2023 8:32 AM|
Years ago I did a snow hike and lost my footing and was unable to self-arrest. I remained surprisingly calm while sliding and thought this is it. Luckily for me, I hit a lone scrubby pine which stopped my slide into oblivion. In spring they found a young woman's body in the area, and I never felt like hiking in snow again. It really scared me. I still ski, however.
I think other hikers will find his body; he probably bivouacked but still died of exposure.
It’s very sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||February 11, 2023 9:26 AM|
Oh please, can we talk about the elephant in the room ? the tragic hair ?
|by Anonymous||reply 477||February 11, 2023 9:37 AM|
R472 This pretty well sums it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||February 11, 2023 1:51 PM|
Is he dead yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 479||February 11, 2023 7:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 480||February 11, 2023 7:18 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 481||February 11, 2023 7:18 PM|
Julian Sands played a key role in Season 5 of "24" -- widely thought to be the best season of the show and some phenomenal television.
|by Anonymous||reply 482||February 11, 2023 7:56 PM|
I love Julian to death, but "leading man" is a bit far fetched. He had a prominent part in ONE hit movie, that was massively women driven. Carter was the lead, and Smith was a co-lead IMO. Also, he looked divine, but spoke all of his lines as if his brackets had suddenly unhooked and been caught in in tongue in the middle of the take. (which might account for his non-career)
|by Anonymous||reply 483||February 12, 2023 9:10 AM|
Betty Bacall LOVED the costumes
|by Anonymous||reply 484||February 12, 2023 9:24 AM|
The man admitted to packing his favorite vintage wines for his treks in an article linked either upthread or in previous one. Interpret that as you will.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||February 12, 2023 9:58 AM|
I don't recall if it was mentioned, but is anyone familiar with the wild life in the areas where he may have been hiking? Bears, coyotes, wild cats, etc.?
|by Anonymous||reply 486||February 12, 2023 10:31 AM|
Julian had his naked pics from when he was training to be Tarzan on his cellphone. one of you Angelenos needs to go find him and retrieve that.
|by Anonymous||reply 487||February 12, 2023 10:52 AM|
R486 - it was mentioned before but again - Coyotes, raccoons, black bears, mountain lions, big horn sheep, mule deer, bobcats, gray foxes and long-tailed weasels are some of the larger animals that survive in the habitats of Mt. Baldy’s mountainous regions.
|by Anonymous||reply 488||February 12, 2023 11:20 AM|
[quote]Coyotes, raccoons, black bears, mountain lions, big horn sheep, mule deer, bobcats, gray foxes and long-tailed weasels
|by Anonymous||reply 489||February 12, 2023 11:23 AM|
[quote]I love Julian to death,
Unfortunate choice of words.
|by Anonymous||reply 490||February 12, 2023 12:50 PM|
R483 He was the lead in 'Warlock' and 'Boxing Helena'!
|by Anonymous||reply 491||February 12, 2023 1:40 PM|
The more I read about him via this thread, the more I like him. RIP on that cold mountain, mon ami.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||February 12, 2023 1:52 PM|
R486 there are bears, coyotes, mountain lions, mule deer, bobcats, bighorn sheep, and raccoons. .
|by Anonymous||reply 493||February 12, 2023 2:05 PM|
It’s hard to believe it’s been 33 years, but I saw a first cut of Arachnophobia at the Disney studios where a friend worked as a story editor. I remarked to my friend that the music score was bad and that Sands had a weird and disembodied voice. I thought his line readings were even more stilted than in ARWAV. She agreed and said his voice was best suited to playing pompous characters and villains.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||February 12, 2023 2:41 PM|
[quote]and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ?
Yeah, but can he scat his intro? I think not.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||February 12, 2023 3:02 PM|
R486, others have said there are bears up there.
I’ve only noticed twinks and eldergays.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||February 12, 2023 3:02 PM|
R496 I’m one of the elder gays you’ve seen hiking Mt. Baldy. But only when most of the snow has melted. I’ve skied Baldy in the winter, but I prefer Big Bear if I’m going to ski locally. I wonder how Julian Sands’ disappearance and likely death will affect the mountain’s popularity. I’m afraid it’s going to increase the number of people who hike it.
|by Anonymous||reply 497||February 12, 2023 3:49 PM|
[quote]I wonder how Julian Sands’ disappearance and likely death will affect the mountain’s popularity. I’m afraid it’s going to increase the number of people who hike it.
Which tells you a lot about anyone who would be stupid and reckless enough to do so, especially without taking all necessary precautions, including but not limited to not hiking alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||February 12, 2023 4:27 PM|
Sounds good to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 499||February 12, 2023 5:56 PM|
[quote] there are bears, coyotes, mountain lions, mule deer, bobcats, bighorn sheep, and raccoons.
So plenty of food! He might have survived after all!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 500||February 12, 2023 6:57 PM|
I ain't goin' no where there's mountain lions, bobcats and bears. Fuck that.
|by Anonymous||reply 501||February 12, 2023 7:54 PM|
So the Eagle bar is a no go for you?
|by Anonymous||reply 502||February 12, 2023 7:54 PM|
So, when will he just be declared fucking dead!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 503||February 13, 2023 1:03 AM|
Julian is somewhere in this photo. Can you spot him?
|by Anonymous||reply 504||February 13, 2023 1:05 AM|
R504, when he'll be found next spring, you know what he will be "missing" = eyes, tongue, lips, and other soft tissues
|by Anonymous||reply 505||February 13, 2023 6:25 AM|
R503, why are you so impatient for him to be declared dead?
|by Anonymous||reply 506||February 13, 2023 7:20 AM|
[quote]Julian is somewhere in this photo. Can you spot him?
No, but I can spot Wally.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||February 13, 2023 10:28 AM|
Maybe r503 is the beneficiary of Julian's life insurance.
|by Anonymous||reply 508||February 13, 2023 10:30 AM|
R507 As a Brit, Julian would get that reference, but here in the US he goes by Waldo.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||February 13, 2023 10:30 AM|
[quote]but here in the US he goes by Waldo.
Why would he change his name?
|by Anonymous||reply 510||February 13, 2023 10:45 AM|
He’s secretive like that, hiding in plain sight, changing names, keeping off shore bank accounts.
|by Anonymous||reply 511||February 13, 2023 10:51 AM|
R504, isn’t that him in the upper right corner? About the 12:53 (pm, not am) position? See him? It’s right there. No, not there, a little further over. No, a little mo—Jesus! Do I have to point it out to you?!
|by Anonymous||reply 512||February 13, 2023 1:46 PM|
R504 - the trees were blue that day.
|by Anonymous||reply 513||February 13, 2023 2:06 PM|
R504, that photo was taken before Julian's last hike so I doubt he's in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 514||February 13, 2023 2:22 PM|
I’ve been looking at some of the hiking/mountaineering websites I often use, and every one has cautions about hazardous conditions. People are even reporting that it’s difficult to go beyond the ski hut, and that’s far from the Baldy Bowl trail that Julian was probably on. There’s apparently huge, thick slabs of ice that make it difficult to dig in crampons just to follow a trail. There are also large chunks of ice that are hurtling down slopes, endangering hikers. No matter what time of year, there are powerful winds in the area. They’re apparently especially strong today. They can easily cause a hiker to lose his balance. On top of all this, more snow is expected tomorrow. With conditions like this, more foot searches for Julian are going to be difficult.
|by Anonymous||reply 515||February 13, 2023 3:54 PM|
Hiking up Mount Baldy doesn’t sound like much fun to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||February 13, 2023 10:06 PM|
It’s official: There’s a winter storm warning in effect for Mt. Baldy for today (Tuesday). Julian will have to keep waiting to be found.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||February 14, 2023 1:03 PM|
Waiting For Julian
|by Anonymous||reply 518||February 14, 2023 4:49 PM|
R518 = Mt Baldy resident mountain lion
|by Anonymous||reply 519||February 14, 2023 4:52 PM|
Should he shoot up more flares or wait?
|by Anonymous||reply 520||February 14, 2023 5:33 PM|
Still more snow to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 521||February 15, 2023 4:10 PM|
A renowned climber-skier named Zach Milligan died on the weekend climbing alone in the Canadian Rockies; he was 42. The linked profile from a couple of years ago gives a good sense of the psychology of extreme solo climbers.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||February 15, 2023 5:00 PM|
Thanks R522. Interesting read!
|by Anonymous||reply 523||February 15, 2023 6:57 PM|
R522 I’ve been following Zach Milligan’s adventures for years, but I hadn’t heard about his death. That’s very sad. I was a climber for about 15 years when I was younger, but never anything as adventurous as what Milligan did. Ice climbing, in particular, is something I never would have attempted. As for skiing down Half Dome, the mind boggles!
Earlier in this thread, I talked about the hazards of Julian hiking in a dangerous area with precipitous drops when there was snow and ice on the ground. My brother and I arrived in Mammoth last night for some skiing. This morning, I slipped on some ice in a restaurant parking lot. As I fell, I managed to set off someone’s car alarm. Better than falling to my death down Baldy Bowl.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||February 15, 2023 7:49 PM|
[quote]As I fell, I managed to set off someone’s car alarm. Better than falling to my death down Baldy Bowl.
We would have preferred the latter.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||February 15, 2023 7:53 PM|
The Polar Circus
|by Anonymous||reply 526||February 15, 2023 8:41 PM|
They’re still trying to find him. I hope this latest search is successful.
|by Anonymous||reply 527||February 17, 2023 5:20 PM|
I’m getting a bad feeling about this.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||February 17, 2023 5:52 PM|
NOW you're getting a bad feeling about this, R528?
|by Anonymous||reply 529||February 17, 2023 6:13 PM|
They just found someone in the Alps who was lost 50 years ago!
|by Anonymous||reply 530||February 17, 2023 6:23 PM|
Why didn’t he at very least take a flair gun?
|by Anonymous||reply 531||February 17, 2023 6:56 PM|
He took wine on his hikes? De definitely died happy!
|by Anonymous||reply 532||February 17, 2023 7:28 PM|
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]
|by Anonymous||reply 533||February 17, 2023 7:43 PM|
He aged backwards to 32? Was there some time travel involved in all of this?
|by Anonymous||reply 534||February 17, 2023 7:45 PM|
[quote]Why didn’t he at very least take a flair gun?
Maybe because he wasn’t planning on doing his hair. Or any decorating for that matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 535||February 17, 2023 9:20 PM|
R530 That's nothing!
|by Anonymous||reply 536||February 17, 2023 10:13 PM|
Ok, that missing woman has been found. Can we back to looking for me?
|by Anonymous||reply 537||February 19, 2023 2:11 PM|
Here’s the weather forecast for Mt Baldy for the next few days. The chart also shows the high and low temperatures for four different elevations of the mountain. It looks like there will be generally clear weather, but the temperature at upper elevations, where Julian likely is, will be well below freezing. This should be good weather for the planned ground searches.
|by Anonymous||reply 538||February 19, 2023 4:10 PM|
[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]
|by Anonymous||reply 539||February 19, 2023 5:58 PM|
It seems like Julian doesn't want to be found.
|by Anonymous||reply 540||February 19, 2023 6:19 PM|
Has anyone called “Olly, Olly Oxen Free!” yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 541||February 19, 2023 6:27 PM|
I've done my part by watching "A Room With a View" today.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||February 19, 2023 6:33 PM|
Here’s a lot more detail plus a brief video of the finding of the latest body. It’s hard to understand how this supposedly experienced hiker would have embarked on such a dangerous hike with imminent bad weather. Exactly the same can be said of Julian.
|by Anonymous||reply 543||February 19, 2023 10:58 PM|
R543 At least this hiker posted his hiking route on the internet. But apparently he couldn’t follow his planned route and got lost due to the heavy snowfall. And the worst part of it is that he went ALONE. It sounds like he may have fallen and then died of exposure.
|by Anonymous||reply 544||February 19, 2023 11:06 PM|
More bad weather news for Southern California mountain areas.
|by Anonymous||reply 545||February 20, 2023 2:55 PM|
Graupel- I don't think I've ever encountered it, even from various winter hiking and ice cllimbing events.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||February 20, 2023 2:57 PM|
I’ve never heard of Graupel. DL is so educational.
|by Anonymous||reply 547||February 20, 2023 2:59 PM|
I predict Julian’s body will be found by 30 August.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||February 20, 2023 3:01 PM|
Thank you Nostradamus. What a comfort to have you with us!
It's awful to think that he, of one of the greatest screen kisses ever, and a visage and floppy blond hair over which millions sighed over, is now being nibbled by critters.
How strange the journey of life can be.
|by Anonymous||reply 549||February 20, 2023 3:02 PM|
R549 Yes, life has its ups and downs.
|by Anonymous||reply 550||February 20, 2023 3:05 PM|
This is the first comment I’ve read from John Malkovich. I’ve seen him described as Julian’s best friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 551||February 20, 2023 5:02 PM|
Here’s a longer article about Julian and John’s friendship. Very nice photo of them together. And showing their age!
|by Anonymous||reply 552||February 20, 2023 7:27 PM|
Wow the English Curse is strong in r552's photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 553||February 20, 2023 8:44 PM|
John Malkovitch isn't english
|by Anonymous||reply 554||February 20, 2023 9:26 PM|
He should be, r554.
|by Anonymous||reply 555||February 20, 2023 10:21 PM|
[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]
|by Anonymous||reply 556||February 21, 2023 1:52 PM|
R556 Incredible that more than 20 people conducted a ground search a few days ago and couldn’t find anything. They apparently were searching where a Recco device had indicated a chance of something. Avalanches of not just snow but huge slabs of ice are known to occur in that area. Julian is likely buried under tons of ice. On top of all this, one of the biggest and coldest storms in years is due to hit the area in a day or two.
|by Anonymous||reply 557||February 21, 2023 2:00 PM|
Can't they just defrost him when they find him?
|by Anonymous||reply 558||February 21, 2023 2:05 PM|
Maybe he run off to hide in the wilderness because he’s ashamed of the way he looks
|by Anonymous||reply 559||February 21, 2023 2:33 PM|
[quote]Can't they just defrost him when they find him?
They don't have that big of a microwave.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||February 21, 2023 2:53 PM|
There’s an official Winter Storm Warning in effect for the next few days for Mt. Baldy. Heavy snowfall predicted that will bury Julian even deeper. That earlier prediction that he wouldn’t be found until the end of August might be accurate after all.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||February 21, 2023 6:48 PM|
Dude is CLEARLY dead. Isn't there anything more important for search and rescue to do?
|by Anonymous||reply 562||February 21, 2023 8:54 PM|
Told you I was hardcore!
|by Anonymous||reply 563||February 21, 2023 8:54 PM|
R550 = Charlotte Bartlett
|by Anonymous||reply 564||February 21, 2023 8:58 PM|
and R549 =Eleanor Lavish, obvioulsy
|by Anonymous||reply 565||February 21, 2023 9:12 PM|
There is NO point in sending Search-and-Rescue up there! Corpses covered by snow are invisible, and just going up there in the snow, ice, and wind is dangerous for the searchers.
There can't be pressure from other hikers, we hikers and climbers understand that although we're willing to risk our own lives, we don't want other to risk theirs to save us from the consequences of our actions - especially if the search is obviously futile. So any pressure is probably coming from some fool administrator who doesn't want to be known as the administrator who failed to find a celebrity corpse, or members of the public who don't know enough to be taken seriously. The ONLY sensible thing to do at this point, is to wait for the snow to melt. So what if that takes until August, waiting won't do Sands any harm.
|by Anonymous||reply 566||February 22, 2023 12:06 AM|
The storm hitting CA over the next few days makes searching impossible. I suspect we won't find any trace of him until mid- March.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||February 22, 2023 1:18 AM|
I’m currently in Mammoth, and the storm has already arrived here. It’s a FIERCE blizzard. Tons of snow is coming down, and I’m sure Baldy will be getting a heavy blanketing of new snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||February 22, 2023 1:35 AM|
FOR CHRIST’S SAKE, TWO MORE HIKERS HAD TO BE RESCUED BY HELICOPTER FROM THE SIDE OF MT. BALDY TODAY!
|by Anonymous||reply 569||February 22, 2023 2:00 AM|
Is it like this every fucking winter?
|by Anonymous||reply 570||February 22, 2023 2:08 AM|
Why haven't idiots stopped climbing Mt. Baldy?
|by Anonymous||reply 571||February 22, 2023 2:10 AM|
IMO they ought to ban hiking during extreme weather the same way they close beaches. When someone needs to be rescued they a ren't just putting themselves at risk. Dumb fuckers.
|by Anonymous||reply 572||February 22, 2023 2:17 AM|
They're talking about snow as low as 1500 feet and even in the Santa Monica Mountains, which rarely get snow.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||February 22, 2023 2:44 AM|
Here’s what’s coming.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||February 22, 2023 2:48 AM|
It's odd how they found Robert Gregory but not Julian.
A California hiker who went missing a month ago has been found dead near a frozen summit in the San Gabriel Mountains, officials said.
The body was discovered about 300 feet below the summit of Mount Islip in the Angeles National Forest
Search and rescue personnel confirmed that the hiker’s body was recovered in "snow/ice" on the mountain.
Gregory died of blunt force trauma and his manner of death was ruled an accident, the Los Angeles County coroner said.
|by Anonymous||reply 575||February 22, 2023 2:58 AM|
[quote]Powerful winter storm to bring low-elevation snow, heavy rain and frigid temps to Southern California
Come on, fellow hikers! Who could resist?
|by Anonymous||reply 576||February 22, 2023 7:14 AM|
[quote]Why haven't idiots stopped climbing Mt. Baldy?
In "the film "Star Trek V", Mr. Spock asks Captain Kirk why he is climbing the mountain and Kirk replies "Because it is there". (Spock then has to rescue Kirk when he falls off).
I guess hiking the mountains is just too tempting for some people.
|by Anonymous||reply 577||February 22, 2023 7:57 AM|
R571 Watch the news = They are Dataloungers trying to locate Julian's phone to retrieve his nude pics as Tarzan from the 80's. there are scores of them on Mt Baldy RIGHT NOW, most of them eldergays.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||February 22, 2023 10:43 AM|
R578 We need to locate a youngster to hack into Julian's cloud storage. Think of the lives spared!!
|by Anonymous||reply 579||February 22, 2023 12:09 PM|
The County Sheriff's department has warned unprepared, unequipped DL eledergays not to try climbing Mt Baldy, especially since most rescue cases had never hiked before, or even left their mother's basement.
|by Anonymous||reply 580||February 22, 2023 1:02 PM|
“Weather will be dangerous……heavy snowfall……hurricane force winds…..dangerous wind chill……hypothermia within minutes”
This will bring out all the REAL MEN.
And this is expected to last until next week.
|by Anonymous||reply 581||February 22, 2023 1:23 PM|
Lost/stranded and eating snow -fresh snow, haha- is not advised because it uses up too much of your body energy to melt it. If you have a camp stove or can make a fire to melt it, then okay.
|by Anonymous||reply 582||February 22, 2023 2:31 PM|
Can’t we just send Leo DiCaprio out there to find him, he knows how to kill a bear and survive in its warm body so he has the skills needed.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||February 22, 2023 2:44 PM|
[quote]It's odd how they found Robert Gregory but not Julian.
What's odd about it? There can be any number of reasons why one was found but not the other, depending on exactly what happened to both men.
|by Anonymous||reply 584||February 22, 2023 3:19 PM|
This is a really bad career move on his part. I doubt he'll get signed for many more movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 585||February 22, 2023 3:25 PM|
Los Angeles County gets its first ever blizzard warning! It may be just for the mountains, but “LA” and “blizzard” don’t usually go together. Julian is going to have to be patient.
|by Anonymous||reply 586||February 22, 2023 9:18 PM|
R569 Those two young hikers who had to be rescued by helicopter from the side of Mt. Baldy yesterday got into trouble because “their equipment failed.” What does that mean? Their crampons failed? Their ice tools failed? At least their cell phone didn’t fail and they were able to call for help. It sounds like these two guys were inexperienced and foolishly set out to hike a dangerous mountain during a period of bad weather. The people who have to save this type of hiker must really be fed up at having to risk their own safety to save them.
We’re in Mammoth, snowed-in and stuck here until the weather improves. It’s extra cold and windy, which makes skiing less fun, so we stayed in today. What we saved in not having to buy lift tickets will be spent on some icy martinis.
|by Anonymous||reply 587||February 23, 2023 2:00 AM|
Wow. I'm not even sure he will be found this year.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||February 23, 2023 3:46 AM|
‘It never snows in Southern California…”
|by Anonymous||reply 589||February 23, 2023 4:36 AM|
Nothing wrong with being compost.
|by Anonymous||reply 590||February 23, 2023 5:33 AM|
Have they called off the search? There are any number of caves he could be living in.
|by Anonymous||reply 591||February 23, 2023 5:49 AM|
[quote]There are any number of caves he could be living in.
Some caves even have furniture.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||February 23, 2023 7:18 AM|
Will this finally end California's drought?
|by Anonymous||reply 593||February 23, 2023 9:09 AM|
How long until he's declared dead, so the family can have his stuff?
|by Anonymous||reply 594||February 23, 2023 11:55 AM|
Call me Ötzi 2!
|by Anonymous||reply 595||February 23, 2023 11:56 AM|
Mt. Baldy Resort is closed today. No skiing! Too much snow!
|by Anonymous||reply 596||February 23, 2023 1:48 PM|
Here’s the harrowing story of a woman who survived a 200-foot fall in the vicinity of Mt. Baldy.
|by Anonymous||reply 597||February 23, 2023 1:59 PM|
Anyone up for a Thread Part III? This one is closing out in two posts.
|by Anonymous||reply 598||February 23, 2023 2:24 PM|
I’m ready for Part Three.
|by Anonymous||reply 599||February 23, 2023 2:25 PM|
Here’s Part Three.
|by Anonymous||reply 600||February 23, 2023 2:52 PM|
It was Spock's fault that he fell, R577.
|by Anonymous||reply 601||February 23, 2023 8:15 PM|