Actor Julian Sands missing — Part Two

Tragedy on Mt. Baldy

Maybe he was cast in an upcoming live-action version of Disney's "Frozen" and was just being a "method" actor.

Annie Wilkes got him!

Stupid young man. He's lucky.

Who, R4?

There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area. He was reported missing about three days after Sands.

Here's a nice look at the area posted near the top of the thread, so everyone can get a good look at how steep and rocky the area is. Those gray stripes are avalanche chutes.

Hope they find his boday at the least.

Perhaps he’s in the ski hut?

Bodacious boday.

Do these massive searches with air and rescue, etc. happen for the random 6 yr olds from the sticks?

Simplified view.

I can’t believe they closed the previous thread while he’s still missing.

It’s like a major coverup is underway.

I think a thread is closed when it reaches 600 posts, r13.

OP Tack Sappington exhausted me.

Threads on Datalounge are limited to 600 posts R13. All threads - without exception.

After 600 posts someone starts a new thread like this one. There's no coverup. Get a damn grip.

R16 Jesus, they were kidding, obviously.

Many years ago, an acquaintance of mine was cross country skiing on Mt Shasta. He went up higher than what was allowed, and he slipped into an icy ravine and broke an ankle. He wasn't able to climb out due to the ice and the broken ankle, and he died of exposure. It took weeks for search crews to find him because they didn't think to look in regions that were higher up than what was allowed.

Sometimes people do foolish things.

R7 On the last thread there was a post that said Mt Baldy was 4,000 ' Maybe it was meant to be meters, because the summit is at over 10,000'. I've summited a couple of times; the summit is "bald" and not particularly steep... but that is almost more disorienting... I can imagine in the wind in winter it would be easy to get lost or confused at the top, and the trail up the bowl is steep...with an icy trail you could easily slip down, break a leg, etc.

There is not reason to believe he went up Mt. Baldy. He could be dead in a canyon.

Yes. Yes. I'm new here. I've been a paid member since 2004 R17.

This is the best online guide I’ve found for Mt. Baldy hiking. There is a good photo of the trail near the summit, showing how precarious it is and how it looks blanketed in snow. As the text notes, if you fall from this area, it’s to “a pcertain death.”

“a pcertain death.”

Thanks, Mr Pfeiffer.

R24, is the “f” not silent?

I have vertigo and the backbone is horrifying I had to skip that part in the video.

What is a primitive bathroom?

The second hiker who was missing on My. Baldy has been found safe!

A hole, R27.

He says there is no shame in crawling the devil's backbone on your hands and knees.

that would seem to be even more dangerous. I can't believe they let thousands walk across that every year. But I guess it's nothing too dangerous if you don't have vertigo.

People get hooked on hiking, it is a natural high. For some, hiking is conducive to their good mental health. They need that time out there ALONE and away from the mobile devices. Sands more than likely has hiked alone even in precarious conditions without a problem many times before until this one time where he cannot make it back.

Last summer, a couple went out unwisely during the heat of summer with their dog and infant, they were quickly exposed to insanely hot temperatures and died. This is the sort of experience the couple had made many times previously and documented on their social media accounts. They did not have a death wish, they made a miscalculation that cost them their lives.

what kind of name is Tack?

[quote]I can’t believe they closed the previous thread while he’s still missing. It’s like a major coverup is underway.

I know, right?

Just like with Dyatlov Pass!

What’s Dyatlov Pass?

R35 It is a Russian seduction technique, Rose.

I only hiked once or twice with a few buddies. It was not treacherous and we had a great time.

That other hiker who was found safe is ten years older than Julian Sands. He spent two nights in freezing temperatures. Unclear what kind of equipment he had with him but it probably wasn’t much since he was supposed to be in the area for only half a day.

R37 Was it winter, and during a snow storm?

R37 = the good time had by all.

Maybe Jin Chung is an assassin.

I meant, I have only hiked very casually once or twice in non treacherous conditions and had such a great time I understand why people pursue this more intensely. They don't have a death wish, they love that high.

I was the one who said the summit was 4000+' and I was going off a Google search bc even when i skimmed the wiki article, I didn't see a height for the summit.

I kind of thought that sounded low; pretty sure I'd heard of people jumping off the summit and parasailing a looooooong way down.

Also, I love hiking and have done a lot of it. But I don't favor hikes that are up very steep mountains; the closest I've come is doing an 11 mile hike up Mt. Tam on the Marin Headlands. If I was in better shape, I could see doing steeper hikes, but that one was pretty tiring. (FYI, it was an out and back hike). I prefer ones that are not so tiring and allow me to enjoy the views instead of just wanting it to be done and over with.

Still?!?!?!?! At what point do you give up and go home? To quote the blacks, “He dead.”

Julian Sands: Are you an assassin?

Jin Chung: No, I'm an errand boy with your Kung Pao Chicken.

So no more hot skinny dipping?

I hadn't noticed this before.

Cell phone pings from the actor's iPhone showed evidence that he was nearing Mount Baldy's summit at the time of his disappearance, according to the sheriff's office.

[quote]There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area.

I said it before and I’ll say it again.

Jason got these people!

[quote]The second hiker who was missing on My. Baldy

Is that what you kids are calling it now? We just used to call it trimmed pubes.

I wonder if there are any good cruising spots on Mt. Baldy?

Apparently on the last thread someone speculated there were bears up there. I guess if that’s your thing. Personally, I prefer jocks and twinks.

I heard that L.A. bears can be very aggressive!

You cruisin' for a bruisin' fatal fall?

Thank you for the geolocalisation info. I was hoping he had not headed up there. But anyway its moot now because he's dead.

Maybe he’s met a wild man who’s chopped off his arms and legs and is keeping him locked up unable to escape

So much craziness on Mt. Baldy. This really happened in December 2021: Two hikers slid 150 feet down the mountain. They needed rescue, but they both lost their phones. However, they landed near a phone that was left behind when ANOTHER hiker slid at the same place 5 days earlier. They were able to use that phone to call for help. The battery was at 1%.

here's an idea. Since thousands of yahoos are walking that tightrope, why don't the put a guideline. Or some nets. Because it would kill the natural aspect of it? Is there signage - warning inexperienced hikers to be more careful at the peak? Maybe not to attempt it but take a safer, amateur route?

Holy cats, r57. One of those hikers was obviously needed on earth to start the ripple which would eventually culminate in some major event that has, or will, take place.

[Quote]Tragedy on Mt. Baldy

A working title for the Joey Lawrence biography.

R57 That is a weird coincidence. It just wasn't their time yet.

r60 you got the ROFL award from me tonight. Bravo!

Tack Sappington, the young guy who was just rescued on Mt. Baldy, is an actor.

An actor? How tacky.

[quote] Tack Sappington, the young guy who was just rescued on Mt. Baldy, is an actor.

Given his prominent mole, I'm surprised they made any effort at all to find him.

Tack Sappington’s ordeal:

Is hiking the new AA for L.A. actors?

[quote]what kind of name is Tack?

I love it!

His arm bruises remind me of carpet burns,

They are scabs not bruises.

Tack seems fake.

[quote]r65 Given his prominent mole, I'm surprised they made any effort at all to find him.

It’s how they spotted him from the aircraft.

[quote] Tack Sappington went hiking Friday, Jan. 13…

Mistake No. 1

R21 Yep, I think the more likely scenario is he slipped into one of the canyons, broke some bones and couldn't get back up.

R58 I've been to the summit twice, and it's not as perilous as some of those pics (and stories) might suggest. You don't have to do a loop; many if not most just go up and back the same, relatively safe trail. Even at that section at the top people are saying is so dangerous, the slope on each side isn't really that steep... except in a couple of places if you slip and step off the trail... you, well, step back on the trail. Gravity and physics, your friends. HOWEVER, ice and wind and ice and wind... yeah, changes everything.

These are all the people the family thanked in their recent statement.

Tack sho is ugly

This could do wonders for his career. His IMD list is pretty undistinguished.

The mole will hold him back, R77.

Julian Sands: Are you an assassin?

Tack Sappington: No, I'm a fanboy.

He's got a face for radio, and my God, you couldn't ask for a name with more zip and zing! I could see an FM morning show in his future.

"Tack Sappington and the Rise 'N Shine Zoo Crew"

Was Julian Sands tapping Tack Sappington atop the peak when things went sideways?

That's a different movie, r81

This is a very good documentary about an Andean climb that goes very wrong.

Yes R81, he was so sapped after tapping Tack Sappington, that he dropped his backpack of snacks, which led to a fatal bear attack.

DL in good form tonight!

maybe he was attacked and killed by a mountain lion - like in Six Feet Under.

He was a booze bag. Should have tried AA.

Some alkies “bottom out” by sliding headfirst to the bottom of a mountain.

[italic] A young boy darts to the back door of a local pub and roots around in the bins, trimphantly retrieving an armful of empty wine bottles. ‘I would always take a swig to see if anything was left…’

I did that once r87. Except all the bottles were piled up on my counters and I figured I was still too drunk to drive to get more wine.

So glad I'm over that now.

#MeToo

"There is so much more about Sands’ love of wine to share: geographical areas not touched on; his penchant for drinking from silver goblets; [bold]his habit of decanting fine red into plastic containers to take hiking…[/bold]"

Guess he really* did* die doing what he loved!

Someone pointed out on Twitter that Julian appeared in a film called The Survivalist (2021) but he had a supporting role.

I just learned from the other thread that he had 4 brothers. God bless his parents.

He's not in the trailer for the film.

Yes apparently one brother was a sexy bachelor but I couldn't find a pic.

I’m sort of amazed that we have 700 posts on this. I think “missing hiker” is a definite DL sub-genre.

Yeah, I think the missing (then found dead) Pleasanton Hiker was also a longer one. Also, Gaby Petito kind of fits this too. Then they found that cute missing hiker (dead) at around the same time as Gaby was missing and he'd been missing for awhile. As I recall, that was a smaller thread. Then Sherry Papini, who was a "missing" runner...and wasn't really even missing.

And did they ever find that hiker in Washington who went out alone in a National Forest a few months back?

R95, it's not that surprising that this story is getting a lot of interest on DL -- it involves the disappearance of an actor in the mountains, plus many DLers have fond memories of Julian's naked scene in "A Room With A View":

^^ That’s probably what “paradoxical undressing” looks like. How eerie.

[quote] Jin Chung

Elderly Korean hikers are hardcore, man. (No, I'm not kidding). They're all geared out and prepared as fuck.

[quote] Is hiking the new AA for L.A. actors?

Hiking for actors and actor-wannabes usually means Runyon Canyon and the Santa Monica Mtns, but maybe they're branching out eastward into the San Gabriel Mtns?

Is Tack Sappington gay?

These videos of people getting lost while hiking are addictive!

Maybe his real name is Sack Tappington but that sounded too gay so he transposed the first two letters.

Is it possible that Julian was Tappington Sack?

A misunderstanding over a game of hacky sack at the top of the Baldy stack saw Tack Sappington throw hands with Julian Sands!

[quote] There’s also been no word about the other hiker who went missing in the Crystal Lake area.

If someone is lost in the Crystal Lake area, they almost certainly went up to Mt. Islip via the Windy Gap Trail. Or more like Mt. "I Slip" considering the snow up there right now.

This is pretty interesting…..

Mountain climbers lost in Alaska……

Tack Sappington definitely pings to me.

Dumb guy gets lost in the Sierra Nevadas in Fresno county…..

Tack Sappington as Julian Sands in the Lifetime movie - Sands in the Snow: The Final Hike.

He's already drafting the script for a Lifetime movie to star himself as himself. It's the part he was born to play.

There seem to be conflicting reports. One says the ground searches for the second hiker had provided an opportunity for secondary sweeps. But another says fresh searches on higher ground are still not possible due to poor conditions.

R109 Sorry, I can’t help it. Not an “Oh, Dear!”, just my obligation as a lifelong Californian:

It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”

For any latecomers who want to get caught up. Here is the link to Part 1 113 replies later...

I've only been lost while solo hiking once, and it was in the high Sierras near Lake Tahoe, and I realized I was lost and realized a storm was moving in at just about the same moment! Of course since I'm me, I didn't panic, I was in a valley with a lake in the middle, and I just looked around and picked out the area where the trail had entered the valley. Sure enough, I was right, the trail was where I thought it was, and I made it back to my car before the rain got me too wet.

A couple of years later, a co-worker started talking about the single most terrifying experience of her life, when she'd gotten lost in the same region with the same weather conditions! She wasn't even alone, she was with a more experienced hiker, but she'd panicked anyway. If she'd been alone she'd have probably gotten herself lost.

Well, smell you, man of steel r115

Really expected R115 to be Greg.

When I was a boy I hiked from our beach cottage to a state beach to spend quite some time dallying in the nude changing house and showers. When I arrived home after many hours I explained that I had been lost in the pine forest and had been scared and I was relieved to be home.

I hope you came across some Penis Radiata on your adventure, R118!

[quote]It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”

R113 r109 Interesting. Always thought saying “the Sierra,” instead of the Sierras, was due to 70s activism, & a little misguided. We say the Rockies, the Alps, and the Andes, it’s how English speakers nickname mountain ranges. So even though sierra means mountain range in Spanish, the Sierras oughta be acceptable in English, ¿verdad?

R115 if visibility had been reduced by snow or rain, you might not have made it out of there just to get minced in a DL thread.

Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails? Or are there always just so many people out that there is no opportunity for foul play? I am now a fat whore but even at the peak of my fitness I would never go alone on a weekday hike in most of the Appalachian ranges except in the most touristy areas.

"It’s either “The Sierra”, or “The Sierra Nevada.”"

People who live within driving distance of the Sierra Nevada mountains call them "The Sierras". Tough beans if that's grammatically incorrect.

[quote]Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails?

Not in the snow. It’s too cold.

Is he still missing? Asking for a friend.

R119 Penis rigida, dear, East Coast.

Given that there are mountain lions living in the Los Angeles hills, I’m assuming there are sufficient megafauna to take out a human in more outlying areas.

I had frostbite on my penis, why aren't you talking about ME and my struggles instead of this C-lister?

R126 Yes, there are mountain lions in that area. I remember one of the most popular postcards available for sale in Mt. Baldy Village was of a mountain lion sitting on a boulder near the mountain’s summit.

R126 Mountain lions prey on mule deer which are prevalent in the San Gabriel Mountains. In winter, the deer migrate to lower elevations, so I think the mountain lions would also do so. However, if there was a lion on the upper mountain and Julian was the only edible available, a lion could have gotten him.

I heard he was distraught about being so unpleasantly bald and went to Mt. Baldy to finish things right.

Thank you hallowed perv at R123.

R120 That was an interesting article, thank you. I am a native Californian who has hiked in California mountains for over 50 years. Checking my own usage: I do say "the Sierras", but also say, "the Sierra Nevada", and where I go a lot, I'd say "the Eastern Sierra", singular.

No question that English usage has put pressure on form, and "Sierras" is common, if not "standard" yet.

I wonder if some of the critics in that article - who say it's a violation of, and disrespect for, Spanish, would also say Latinx. I am a left wing, Spanish speaker, and although I get the political impact and intent of Latinx, no Spanish speaker I know outside the Academy uses the term.

And, last, to bring this post back to the topic of the thread.... I have hiked in the mountains around Baldy since I was a kid. We would call that range "the San Gabriels" - plural.

I think plural nicknames for immense mountain ranges make the mountains sound more individual and therefore “friendly” to hikers. On the other hand, “the Sierra Nevada” sounds more intimidating than “the Sierras.“ It’s a colloquialism, so I don’t understand the debate over its usage. I’m more concerned about Californians calling “San Pedro” “San Pee-dro.” What’s up with that?

R121, the California trails are safe when it comes to other human beings. It also would have been really hard to move a dead body away in those treacherous conditions.

[quote] Are there not pervs and predators along these California mountain trails?

The most dangerous thing about the San Gabriels are how steep they are. Unprepared city people do so many dumb things/don't realize the danger.

R133 Because they are speaking English. For example I bet you say Pear Ess, not Pah Ree for the capital of Frances. I bet you say Mex - ee- coh, not Meh - hee - coh... because you are speaking English.

Even Los Angeles... to apply your frustration with Pee-dro... you'd recommend the largest city in CA be pronounce. Lowz - An - He - Les.

Here's the fine Mr. Sands with his four brothers. Two of them are quite handsome. I still think Julian's hot, even as a crazy-eyed old man. (RIP)

[quote] Tragedy on Mt. Baldy

Is this a euphemism for something else?

[quote] for the capital of Frances.

Isn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?

Re: the Sierra debate. It’s not about grammar, or respecting language. It’s about redundancy. Sierra means “mountains”, therefore Sierra Nevada is already a plural name. Adding an an S to either word is unnecessary and redundant. Other place names such as the Rocky Mountains, Cascade Mountains, become the Rockies and Cascades to refer to the entire range. I understand the urge to do the same with the Sierra. But Sierra Nevada means “snow-covered mountains”. The extra S wouldn’t even make sense.

How did Julien refer to the mountain range? That’s what matters here.

Show some RESPECT.

He was such a cool guy

[quote]IIsn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?

[quote]—Oh dear

Her noggin. And capital.

[quote]IIsn’t the capitol of Frances his noggin?

No, silly, it’s F.

[quote]Here's the fine Mr. Sands with his four brothers.

Eww.

Eww.

Eww.

Eww.

Oh, wait, there’s five of them.

Eww.

[quote] It also would have been really hard to move a dead body away in those treacherous conditions.

Who said we’re moving a body? We don’t care if it’s found.

He was a mood

We do not require any more week-old news reports that contain no new information.

R148 I meant only to post the (to me) sexy pic, but the article link came with it. I know we all know as much as there is to know at present.

R136 The difference between “San Pedro” vs. the other mispronounced words and phrases you mention is that “Pedro” is a common name in California, pronounced correctly in all other contexts, which is why it’s so weird that San Pedro is an exception.

I haven’t noticed any comment in the news from James Ivory. He gave Julian Sands one of his first roles in A Room With A View. That’s actually the only really good film Sands was ever in. Sands was due to play the title role in Maurice, Ivory’s next film. He backed out at the last minute and James Wilby got the part. That was one of the stupidest career decisions any actor has ever made. Does anyone know why Sands backed out? Afraid to play a gay character?

Room With a View is a favorite. Daniel Day Lewis is very funny in it. Julian Sands? Never looked better.

In a 1987 interview, Ivory said Sands had backed out of "Maurice" "for personal reasons." Sands' first marriage (to the journalist Sarah Sands) was unravelling and they were divorced in 1987. By coincidence, Sarah's brother, Kit Hesketh-Harvey, was chosen by Ivory to co-write the screen adaptation of "Maurice" when Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, Ivory's regular collaborator, said she considered the novel to be minor Forster and didn't want to adapt it.

I’m a native born Californian. They’re called the Sierras.

I call them the Eastern Sierra if I'm traveling up the 395.

I grew up in California and most people usually refer to them as the Sierras, as in, "I'm going hiking/camping/etc in the Sierras."

I live in Northern California and grew up in Southern California. Pretty much uniform no matter where I live(d).

Lay-Z boy here but did anyone mention if drones are being used in the search?

R157. Yes, drones and helicopters.

UPDATE from the San Bernandino County Sheriff: The search for Julian Sands continues by air only. The California Highway Patrol –Valley Division Air Ops from Auburn, California, is currently assisting us in the search using a RECCO device RECCO - Be Searchable. RECCO technology can detect RECCO reflective material, electronics, & in some cases, credit cards. We are hopeful our partners, Officers Hertzell & Calcutt, can pinpoint an area where we can focus our search efforts, and we thank them for their assistance.

Maybe the aliens took him

In tribute;

[quote]R159 San Bernandino County Sheriff: We are hopeful our partners, Officers Hertzell & Calcutt, can pinpoint an area where we can focus our search efforts, and we thank them for their assistance.

Does this strike anyone else as mildly passive aggressive?

R162 See, Linda sang Sierra.

I watched the movie Everest and there was one scene where a helicopter was initially unable to land because of high winds, though it eventually did. I think Tack mentions the same thing in the first attempt to rescue him.

Tack in in TikTok but DL won't let me attach his videos.

[quote]R163 See, Linda sang Sierra. —no s

Like r156, I’m from California, and we say Sierras. It’s not a word that comes up in conversation very often, so we don’t think it through or dwell on it.

We all know it’s the Sierra Mountain Range, but if someone said, “I’ll be away this weekend, in the Sierra,” we’d look at them oddly, wondering if they meant a car.

More specifically a hearse.

If you really want to be correct, you must roll the Rs, for example: “I will be vacationing the SIERRRRA.”

Actually it's pronounced "throat warbler mangrove".

…and don’t forget to stomp your feet and do air castanets every time you say “the SIERRRRA!”

...while following it up with shouts of Ole! Andale! Arriba!!!

R170

R129 I live in one of the foothill cities at the base of the San Gabriels and I just received an email notification from the city about a mountain lion sighting about half a mile from me (on a residential street.)

… and France.

[quote]R173 I just received an email notification from the city about a mountain lion sighting about half a mile from me (on a residential street.)

Does it look full, like Julian might be in its belly?

He kind of looks like a mountain lion — maybe he was adopted by a pride and they’re sheltering him in a cave somewhere en las Sierra.

R155 knows what's up.

Is there any chance he's still alive?

If he's faked his death and started a new life somewhere else, R178, he might still be alive.

But if he's still on Mt. Baldy, he's dead. They're just looking for the corpse, at this point.

Maybe he didn't have his credit card with him so that technology is not going to work.

Are there no grizzled mountain men who could have found him half dead, carried him by sled to their off grid cabin, gotten him into a steaming bath and nursed him back to health?

[quote]Are there no grizzled mountain men who could have found him half dead, carried him by sled to their off grid cabin, gotten him into a steaming bath and nursed him back to health?

It’s San Bernardino County, so he might have been picked up by a biker gang, and they’re training him how to cook meth at their secret compound in the woods.

Are they bumping uglies?

Cause that would be hawt.

Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor.

Yes R176. The actually happened to me.

[quote]Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor.

Sounds like it's way for them to continue the search, r184.

I think the scaling back is that they won't do any more land searches even in passable weather.

I dragged him back to my cabin, where I gave him a full body rubdown before we made passionate love.

My read was that they had ceased searching entirely, r184/r187, and using RECCO was a way to continue, but maybe you're right.

Friend actor Kevin Ryan speaks on video.

Kevin Ryan

So Julian Sands has hiked in Runyon Canyon. Any of you WeHo guys seen him there?

Hot friend!

R193 Tack Sappington could play his younger brother.

For his family's sake I hope that they find his body someday. It must be torture to have a loved one disappear.

If Caitlyn Jenner is shown on TMZ with a new gal pal named Julia Sanders in the convertible with her, I'm going to start wondering.

"Authorities say the use of RECCO devices by air crews is part of the scaling back of efforts to find the missing actor."

Like I said, they're just looking for the corpse at this point.

[quote]Maybe he didn't have his credit card with him so that technology is not going to work.

But he still had NATURE'S credit card.

On the positive side, Julian has gone out with a dramatic bang. After years of a declining career, this is the most attention he has received since "A Room With A View".

Here’s a good summary of rescue efforts for all of the missing hikers in the Mt. Baldy area.

While we’re waiting for Julian’s body to be found, we could watch a movie. Gripped - Climbing the Killer Pillar is a recent movie about mountain climbing. It’s pretty good. I talked to the lead actress, Amanda Maddox, several times a few years ago. Between acting jobs, she worked as a waitress at Villa Blanca in Beverly Hills, where I’d occasionally eat lunch.

It certainly would be a romantic way to go.

The main actor in Gripped is Kaiwi Lyman. Never heard of him, but he’s HOT. You can watch the movie free on Tubi.

And the Lifetime Original Movie rights belong to his survivors, which is nice.

^^ in response to

[quote]r202 It certainly would be a romantic way to go.

My brother and I are currently in Big Bear, and skiing at Snow Summit. Conditions are nearly perfect, with three to four feet of snow and bright sunshine. However, I’m not fully enjoying myself since the snow can be fun to ski, but it would be awful to be injured and helpless in freezing weather. I keep thinking about Julian Sands and hope that if he’s met his end, it was quick and as painless as possible.

Actor Julian Sands is due to join his four brothers for their regular weekly pub meeting in their native Yorkshire in two days. But there is little doubt now — even as the family’s mood oscillates between hope and fear — that he will be absent.

Each week, the four UK-based Sands brothers: Nick, Robin, Jeremy and Quentin — who live a short drive from each other in Yorkshire — meet for a drink, and sometimes a meal, near Gargrave.

‘And at least three times a year, bless him, Julian makes sure he comes home to see us, just for the one night,’ says Nick. ‘He gets the train up from London to Skipton, then never wants a lift to Gargrave. Instead, he walks the five miles over our local hill, Sharp Haw, which looks down on our village, then breezes through the front door of my office there.

Nick had been scheduled to meet Julian in London this week, where he was due to discuss a film project followed by their Yorkshire trip.

For now, his fellow Monday Club members wait in hopeful anticipation. Nick has a bottle of claret his brother gave to him and he wants nothing more than to see him ‘striding down our hill, in defiance of all of us, into Gargrave, to share it with us.’

Yeah, he’s gonna need a rain check.

[quote]My brother and I are currently in Big Bear

Remember some years back when Stephanie Forrester and Brooke Logan had a huge confrontation at Big Bear?

R209, are you referring to the Valley from where that slut Brooke Logan is from?

R207 where is that from? If true, that's really sad for those brothers.

From the Dailymail.co.uk.

R207, I wouldn't bother pouring that fifth glass.

His body may not be found till spring/summer, if ever. How long before they legally declare him dead? How is that done?

R214 In California, a missing person can be presumed dead after five years.

I’m fucking SICK of Julian Sands teasing this out indefinitely.

[italic]Show your face, demon!

One can only hope that he got caught in an avalanche, and is found intact with the spring thaw.

Well, since he already looked like beef jerky, when they find him he'll probably be mistaken for Ötzi' the Iceman's older American brother.

Rose Red ate him.

Julian Sands has three children. His disappearance is very sad.

[quote]R119 Penis rigida, dear, East Coast.

Sorry to derail things, but I used to catalogue forestry reports in northern British Columbia. My favourite tree was [italic]Pinus contorta[/italic], or lodgepole pine, R125!

[quote]and is found intact with the spring thaw.

I think it’s a little late for that.

If he was cut or uncut, I’m sure it’ll remain the way it was.

Ha ha

It looks like everybody has given up hope now.

You mean there was hope?

R224 State the fucking obvious.

[quote]A close friend and hiking partner of Julian Sands said it is obvious "something has gone wrong" after the British actor's disappearance in California's San Gabriel Mountains.

The kind of astute observation only a close friend could make.

Is said close friend's name "Captain Obvious?"

R222, Julian is cut. His cut cock can be observed in his nude scenes above.

Do there's been more winter weather going through California, snow at moderate evelations, cold, and wind.

If there had been any hope before this weekend, it'd be gone now.

“Julian is a male human,” longtime confidante has revealed

It's pissing rain now, which means more snow at Mt. Baldy.

Bless your heart, r229.

Yet ANOTHER hiker rescued from Mt. Baldy, but still no sign of Julian Sands.

Why not just rename it Suicide Mountain?

This is an interesting article on why Mt. Baldy is so enticing but also so dangerous.

[quote] Yet ANOTHER hiker rescued from Mt. Baldy, but still no sign of Julian Sands.

That poor man Juliette Sand, he’s so polite, he keeps letting other people get ahead of him in the line to get rescued. He might regret that!

"Why not just rename it Suicide Mountain?"

I prefer "Damn Fool Mountain".

"Mt. Baldy" is an ugly, offensive name.

Its better than mt hairy

Oh, someone had to invoke how it's sad because he had three children.

How important to add.

Sad.

Should be renamed Mt. Julian!

I’ll start the petition.

Mt. Julian is a beautiful name.

Mount Julian first, then mount Rupert Graves, then mount Daniel Day Lewis, etc.

He must’ve been a weak ass bitch if everyone else can get rescued but he can’t

Julian is a mountain town in San Diego County. I used to live about 8 miles away from it growing up and it was still somewhat quaint up there, known as "apple country" where people would drive to in the Fall for a weekend day getaway to get some apples (or famous Julian Apple Pie) and walk around the very small town. If you drove a little East of it in the winter, you could go sledding sometimes as well.

I know it's changed a LOT since I moved away in the late 80s and now has fast food places; it's apparently nothing like its former self.

[quote]Should be renamed Mt. Julian!

Mt. San Antonio (aka Mt. Baldy) is named after a canonized friar who devoted his life to helping the sick and the poor, so renaming it after a Hollywood actor who thought hiking was fun might not be such a great idea.

He was 65, so at least he lived a good life, even though he was still fit and could have probably gone on another decade or two at least. He had to understand the risks of his hobby, especially after almost dying once. I don't think it is so terrible to go out doing what you love, as long as the suffering wasn't too prolonged. I hope it was a fall that killed him instantly.

He loved being at one with nature.

While we’re waiting for what will undoubtedly be sad news, here are some pictures to look at documenting the last few years of Julian’s life, primarily at events in Los Angeles.

[quote]I don't think it is so terrible to go out doing what you love, as long as the suffering wasn't too prolonged.

It's that sort of idiotic attitude that leads to more and more deaths like this. You are a fool.

R251 Are you reeling in the years?

Someone must have objected to his Wiki page having Julian described as WAS because he is now back to being IS.

It's actually a bummer that this is how the story ends. I forgot how much I liked the guy and his disappearance reawakened a lot memories for many of us. Now I'm feeling nostalgic for the guy, and sad about his demise. It's just a weird-ass situation. I hate the lack of closure, too.

[quote] a weird-ass situation

His muscled arse has gone.

He had a muscled ass, but he couldn't hike forever.

Do they lavish this amount of attention when a Black goes missing?

[quote]I hate the lack of closure, too.

Oh, Jesus.

There’s closure: dude’s dayd.

[quote] Julian is a mountain town in San Diego County. I used to live about 8 miles away from it growing up and it was still somewhat quaint up there, known as "apple country" where people would drive to in the Fall for a weekend day getaway to get some apples (or famous Julian Apple Pie) and walk around the very small town. If you drove a little East of it in the winter, you could go sledding sometimes as well. I know it's changed a LOT since I moved away in the late 80s and now has fast food places; it's apparently nothing like its former self.

I was there a few years ago and the downtown area is still very charming. I didn't see fast food stuff but that may have been away from town itself. It seems very charming (if somewhat limited in scope) and I've wanted to go back for a while, but it's just sort of in a weird spot that isn't easy to get to from where we're usually traveling (either along the cost or to the "inland empire").

During the 19 years I lived in San Diego, I used to go up to Julian occasionally. A challenge, even in the best weather, because there were only 2 different routes to drive up there, both very steep and twisting. Accidents are frequent.

Apart from that, it's a pleasant getaway, cooler in summer. And its apple pies are justifiably famous. In addition, after a season of wildfires, it was found that daffodils thrived in the area; so residents went about planting them everywhere.

Daffodils are my second favorite flower, after Hawaiian plumeria. Since moving west, I missed them. But, somehow, I never got around to driving up there to see them.

So now they’re famous for apples and daffodils.

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Did they find him yet? Any updates or have they given up?

No, he hasn’t been found. They’re still searching by helicopter and drones. There are dangerous winds and threats of more avalanches on the upper slopes where Sands was hiking. Local authorities say conditions on Mt. Baldy are now “seriously treacherous.”

Thanks for the update R264. The media is very quiet about this. He must be dead after all this time.

I’d rather die doing what I love best, relaxing in a comfortable safe place while pleasantly stoned,

I’ve just returned from skiing at Big Bear, which is about 50 miles east of Baldy. There was a tremendous depth of snow at Big Bear, the heaviest in years, so it must also be very thick at Mt. Baldy. If Julian Sands fell and was injured or killed, the heavy snowfall would have easily covered him, making his body undetectable by aerial surveillance. Even worse, there have been avalanches at Big Bear and Mt. Baldy. If an avalanche buried him, his body probably wouldn’t be found until Spring.

I keep saying this and I think I might be right - Annie Wilkes got him.

He didn't get in the cockadoody car!

Are you hoping that it gets funnier with repetition, R268?

Yes. Yes I most definitely am R270.

R271, slightly off topic, but I love people like you who don’t take things too seriously and can roll with a joke.

You make this place a pleasant experience.

Fucking Mercury Retrograde strikes again

Can't they send in an Imperial Probe or something?!

“Stop hiking up Mt. Baldy. It’s dangerous.”

He’s having a train run on him by a gang of Sasquatchs as we speak

When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?

Remains identified by dental records

Clothing matches that worn on the last day he was seen

Recognized by searchers

He waved and said, “finally, motherfuckers”

This should have been a poll

[quote]When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?

Advanced, I'd wager, unless he was deeply frozen, like a caveman in a glacier.

Leave his corpse up there like they do on Mt. Everest. Let him be slowly absorbed back into the earth (or whatever is left after the local wildlife had their fill). I think he'd like that.

[quote]When they find him, what state of decomposition will he be in?

California, I’m guessin’.

More stay-away-from Mt. Baldy opinion.

Off-trail

Dangerous and possible record breaking windchills in northern New England for Friday and Saturday. The winds are going to be strong and the chill on Mt Washington may reach minus 50 degrees. Hikers are being warned not to hike above treeline on any mountain in the Whites for those two days. I hope not to hear of any hiker deaths.

P.S. Ski areas are closing and that is extremely rare.

Boy, is he gonna be surprised when they finally thaw him out, r279.

They really ought to close trails like Mt. Baldy during winter snow conditions or summer heat waves, but it's hard to effectively close a hiking trail - determined hikers feel totally free to walk around any "DO NOT ENTER" sign or climb any fence, and are fit enough to get around any sort of barrier the forest service has available. Even if the road to the trailhead is closed, people like Sands would be fit enough to park downhill and walk a few extra miles, and get themselves in trouble in spite of the official attempts to save their fool lives.

Every corpse on Everest was once a highly motivated and extremely fit individual, after all.

Another good, and depressing, newspaper article about the folly of climbing Mt. Baldy in winter conditions.

Hot friend, hiking partner and fellow actor Kevin Ryan updates his concern. "Julian is beyond experienced and I'm hoping that he's tucked away somewhere and can pull through."

Ryan said the severe weather was 'something that Julian would have seen as a challenge'.

Still, he admitted that 'each day that does go by puts more pressure and I guess brings a lot of doubt in.'

I am also concerned

R288 paywall

Use 12ft ladder, r291.

Julian's Wikipedia page now says:

"This article is about a person who has been presumed dead." 😞

collect that insurance, baby.

So they still haven't found him? Why would he go do something like that, knowing his family would be worried to death and not have any closure, possibly for years? I just couldn't do that shit to my family.

Will they find his decomposed body in time for him to be included in this year's Oscars "In Memoriam" segment? That's pretty much the only interesting question regarding this story left.

Thanks for the tip on 12 Ft ladder

R299 The In Memoriam segment will be for people who died in 2022. Julian will have to wait for another year. Maybe his body will be found by then.

[quote]Thanks for the tip on 12 Ft ladder

You're welcome, r300. I try to pay for whatever I can, but sometimes, ya just gotta find a work around. It doesn't work for everything: New York Times, for example.

It's a useful tool.

I, uh, thought "12ft ladder" was someone being sarcastic.

r303 I totally did too

That would be funny if he's shown in the In Memoriam segment then he storms on stage and screams "I'm not dead, bitches!!!"

Sometimes they seem to include recent deaths but he has not been declared dead, except on Wiki.

He's fine. He's having tea and crumpets with a family of black bears. He sends his love.

They’re still conducting aerial searches for the guy. This seems interminable.

He's still dead, Jim.

R301, they usually include people who died up until the time when the In Memoriam segment is edited together, so anyone who dies early in 2023 has a shot.

if the search is now intermittent you wonder how intermittent that means.

He’s dead, Mr. Finch. Let the dead bury the dead.

I just got a text from a friend who’s skiing Mt. Baldy this weekend. There’s plenty of snow and three of four lifts are open. Skiers are cautioned about avalanche threat in off-piste areas. More snow is forecast for tomorrow. Julian Sands is probably going to be concealed by snow until spring.

Did they warn skiers about tripping over Julian's corpse?

Jada IS Julian Sands in the Lifetime movie.

Intermittent searching?

At this point, with weeks past and deep snow on the trail, that probably means that whenever the forest service people see some guy with a drone, they ask him to have a look.

I'm actually shocked that NONE of his co-stars of ARWAV issued a pained statement, declaring how wonderful he is/was and how devastated they are. He must be quite a tool. Did Ivory even bothered to say anything ? he must be senile anyway. Maggie is above social media, and so are DDL and Bonham-Carter, but at least Simon Callow ? Funny how everyone involved in this instant classic became a mega star, except for the lead. Like all of you who were teenagers when it first came out, my videotape of the movie was embarrassingly white stripped during the naked pond scene, due to heavy slow-motion replay. Poor guy was evidently not well liked in the business, I wonder why exactly ?

R317, maybe they're waiting until his body is found

R317 I had wondered why I couldn’t find any comments from any of the ARWAV crew. I thought at least James Ivory would have said something. I had wondered why Julian had backed out of Maurice at the last minute. That was certainly a very bad career move. I thought it might have been because Julian didn’t want to play a gay character and this had led to a falling out with Ivory, hence Ivory giving no public comment on Julian’s disappearance. Maybe we’ll never know.

Ivory said in 1987 Sands withdrew from "Maurice" for personal reasons. His marriage was crumbling and he was divorced that same year.

I didn't think he was very ggod, or attractive in the movie, but I must say I felt a little pang at the news of his, well, death, let's not fool ourselves. It brought me back to these wonderful years of MY BEAUTIFUL LAUNDERETTE, or ANOTHER COUNTRY, when it seemed to this teenager that fucking hot guys was a completely normal and desirable thing. Nobody said it was gay, back then, or these were gay movies. not everything and everyone were tagged and branded. Good times

Oh yeah, back in the 80s guys fucked each other all the time in mainstream movies and no one thought twice about it. (Commences series of eye rolls)

By the way, My Beautiful Laundrette and Another Country could be found in the "Cult/Gay" section of the video store.

R320 I can easily imagine James Ivory invoking ‘personal reasons’ as a euphemism for more than Sands’ divorce proceedings. It’s notable that Sands never worked with Ivory again. I also wonder if Sands was uncomfortable with playing a gay character.

It may be an unpopular opinion here, but I don’t really think Sands is a good actor. He has an interesting presence at times, but he doesn’t convey much character in his performances. In ARWAV, he was vapid and blank-faced. Daniel Day Lewis, despite having to play a ridiculous character, at least gave a fully rounded performance. He was even able to engender sympathy at times.

R322, rest your eyes, hun, I was living in Europe back then, with my parents, not in fascist Murica. All these movies were completely mainstream

Sands played gay in Man in An Orange Shirt

r305 more likely.. breaking news: a celebrity has been arrested in the Philippines.

Did Ivory try anything on him during the shooting ?

Maybe Ivory followed him on Mt Baldy and pushed him over the edge so that he wouldn't sue for the bare-assed sequence in ROOM WITH A VIEW ?

r232 He railed against the trope of casting brits as gays in early interviews, if I recall. . . but perhaps that was a reaction to the tabloids when he was Jodie Foster's merkin.

his mysterious and Thoreauesque demise on mt Baldy gives him a certain allure that compensates for the botched career. He will be remembered as the beautiful blond nature lover of "a room with a view "who died untimely in the great big open, rather than "what's his name the guy who flopped from room with a view"

The story of Gerry Largay at r283 is so sad. At one point searchers were within 100 feet of where her remains were found. It’s possible she heard them but was too weak to cry out…🥺. The friend who had accompanied her on the hiking trip but had to drop out because of a family matter must have been riddled with guilt.

R330 Yes, his claim to fame will be freezing to death on Mt. Baldy. Good career move, as they say.

Has well known Mount Baldy hiker Susan Dey made a comment yet?

I'll stick up for the deceased here. He was fine in Room with a View because all he had to play was the natural, hunky, truth and beauty-seeking, sexy child of god. He was the foil to DDL's mannered, unsexy aesthete. He didn't have to do much acting, he just had to show up. (Well done, James Ivory.)

As to his botched career--maybe he wasn't in it for stardom? It takes a lot to have and maintain an A-list career. Maybe being a jobbing actor with lots of time for family and outdoor pursuits was good enough for him.

i watched the Gerry Lagay video too and cried a little. Definitely touched me that she wrote letters to everyone.

On top of Mt. Baldy, all covered with snow.... 🎶

[quote] his mysterious and Thoreauesque demise on mt Baldy

His character in 'A room With A View' invokes H. D. Thoreau.

The 'sacred' pond in which they are 'baptised' in the nude invokes Walden Pond.

Maybe he's alive and surviving by drinking his own urine and eating his own limbs.

R332=Natalie Wood, posting from the great beyond

He always seemed special needs to me, but never more so than in the pond sequence. " Freddy", OTOH, was so HOT it made my eyes bleed.

Julian didn't know that he was being filmed nude in ARWAV. They promised him nothing would be shown. The emotional distress and toll on his life and career led to his suicide on Mt Baldy. On behalf of his family, I would sue for damage reparation in excess of $1 billion

[quote] eating his own limbs.

each cheek could provide for a week at least, that is, after a few days chomping on that chode alone

We lived in Europe and was all Europeany and mondain and homoeroticism and love between hommes was completely mainstream and ordinaire and never labelled because we were, after all very Europeany and cosmopolitan and sophistiqué.

EXACTLY R344. At least one here understands one's experience in the sophisticated world of rarefied aired Europe.

If they lower Helena Bonham Carter down from helicopter in the middle of it all, wouldn’t that draw him out?

[quote]Julian's Wikipedia page now says: "This article is about a person who has been presumed dead." 😞

And yet Keanu's Wikipedia page is about a person who is presumed alive, and still walks among us. And I'm angry, again.

R342 = Leonard Whiting. Or maybe Olivia Hussey.

R325 I’m now wondering if playing a gay man in Maurice was more than he could take in the early part of his career. He had the chance to play the lead role in a film by a director who was riding the acclaim of ARWAV. It’s hard to imagine any young actor passing up that opportunity. There were several intimate scenes in Maurice, including two males kissing. That may have frightened him.

It wasn’t until 35 years into his career that he played a gay role, his only performance as a gay man. The character was older and there were no intimate scenes in which his masculinity would be challenged. Also, at this point in his career, he was working playing minor parts in only one or two productions a year. He was probably accepting just about anything he was offered.

R330

MARY!!!!!!

Missing what?

R349 He was in an all boy boarding school in England, so he must have been really tired of sucking cock, or having his sucked, by the time he reached 18. as Tu-tu Weld said, I didn't want to play LOLITA, because I WAS Lolita.

R353 Love The Killing Fields.

Wiki page changed again deleted presumed dead notation.

Status is missing.

R354 Well, we hope you’re going to like The Killing Mountains just as much then!

Maybe he just wants to be left alone.

[quote]Missing what?

A pulse, Rose!

I dod hope they find him. But I don't think there is even a remote chance of him being alive now. It's been too long. He's dead.

I haven't been watching the news much. Is he still missing?

Yes and where are down to intermittent searching.

Are we still searching for Natalee Holloway?

We're still searching for Judge Crater.

Well, I'm still searching for the REAL killer.

OJ should join the search, maybe the real killer will be hanging out on Mt. Baldy

R357 LOLZ !

There was another rescue from Mt. Baldy this past weekend.

did they CHECK THE CABINS ??????????

Maybe the little bunnies and the little fawns and the turtle are feeding him ?

Has Susan Dey issued a statement?

R371 Sure when you post the same thing, but include a Little Women’s era picture the WW come tumbling in, but not for me at R333!

But you’re hotter than he is, so you’ve got that going for you.

Let the poor dear have his.

(I’m only teasing, r371!)

I condole you, r372.

Julian Sands is supposed to be an experienced hiker who was very familiar with Mt. Baldy. I’ve read that he hiked it numerous times, so he must have been carrying the right equipment. It’s a little baffling why they can’t find any trace of him. Several other hikers who got into trouble on the mountain have been rescued, but not Julian.

Buried under an avalanche, perhaps? There were several deaths in the Alps from avalanches over the past week or so.

I suspect he injured himself, and could not get help.

He should've bought a Life Alert.

I think his body will probably be found at the bottom of the Baldy Bowl. The trail that traverses the rim of the bowl is one of the longest segments of the trail to the mountain’s summit. It’s also very precarious, with a drop of 500 to 900 feet. I’ve hiked it many times, but never in winter. It’s treacherous enough when dry. I’ve read many stories of hikers in winter realizing that the trail is actually a thick slab of ice with a deceptive cover of snow. Going up the trail, the precipitous drop is to the hiker’s right. To the left is a steep upward slope. Large chunks of ice the size of bowling balls or larger routinely break off and roll down the mountain striking hikers. This happened to one of the hikers who recently had to be rescued. Fortunately, he wasn’t knocked off the trail and down into the bowl. There’s a good possibility that this is what happened to Sands.

That doesn't sound like a remotely pleasant hike.

How strange to be reading about this ghoulish looking man all these years later

[quote]That doesn't sound like a remotely pleasant hike.

These reckless idiots don't care if the hike is "pleasant." They probably prefer that it's unpleasant. They're just trying to prove something to themselves and to other people, and many of them end up dead, which they deserve for deliberately putting themselves in a dangerous situation when there was no real need to do so other than satisfying their own egos.

R379, indeed, a woman who died on Baldy this winter was seen tumbling down a slope without making any apparent effort to stop herself. It is thought that she may have been hit by ice and knocked unconscious. My guess is that Julian Sands died in an avalanche, which is at least a quicker death than being stuck on the mountain for days.

R383 Wasn’t that a plot point in the Lindsay Lohan Christmas RomCom movie on streaming?

This movie gets the MST3K treatment on the Netflix reboot, and I highly recommend it.

Nothing in the world could force me to go hiking in a snowy moutain. Or anywhere else for that matter. Why do people even do that ?

R381 = Helena Bonham-Carter

What happens if they never find his body?

How long before he is declared dead?

r386 I had a relationship with a guy who would go winter camping - in the snow, in New York. I kid you not.

We did not do that together.

r386 I am wondering the same thing. What is the attraction?

R399 Reincarnated Shackleton and crew reliving their past lives looking for an out.

[quote] a woman who died on Baldy this winter was seen tumbling down a slope without making any apparent effort to stop herself.

LOL

For R383

He's dead! I just know it! He had a hot ass (35-40 years ago) but he couldn't live forever.

R394 Is the late Denholm Elliott speaking from the grave

[quote] I suspect he injured himself, and could not get help.

Oh good, Jane marple has arrived

I wonder if Julian's disappearance will serve as a cautionary tale to future hikers.

[quote]I wonder if Julian's disappearance will serve as a cautionary tale to future hikers.

It's more likely that they'll see it as a challenge to succeed where he failed.

Hiking Mt. Baldy? Soft snow can rapidly turn into unforgiving ice.

watching THE KILLING FIELDS for the first time as I type. Good movie right there, but WTF ??? San Wasterston is so sensual and sexy in an blatantly homoerotic way. Is Joffé gay ??

The yellow guy is watching semi naked Sam and biting his lip !!! Sexy Sam is eye fucking him !!!! What's happening here ?????

it's a love story between two guys !!!!!!!!!!!! it's not even covered up !!!!!!!!!!!!! it's right there on the screen. Yellow guy cries because he doesn't want to leave Sidney, and Sidney is beaming with joy / cut to the scene where yellow guy at home tells wife that she's gonna be evacuated with the US army, and there's a giant framed picture of Sidney in their living room !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's a Gay war movie . What ???????

Still reporting from THE KILLING FIELDS. Julian is so beautiful in this. So young. Strange to think that while I'm watching, his dead body is still lying on mt Baldy under a pile of snow. This has got to be one of the weirdest celebrity deaths of all time. Also because it's a shout out to a long gone era. I was fckng 15 when A ROOM WITH A VIEW opened, and had never heard of, or given a thought to the guy again. Now he's entered the pantheon of my 80's heroes

[quote] fckng 15

Ooh, do tell.

R404 you gross. Don't be that person.

Ending my report here : KILLING FIELDS is a great movie, highly recommandable, I really enjoyed it. Beautiful acting, beautiful storytelling, amazing cinematography. I loved the first part better than the rest. Ben is a naughty boy, Argo is a carbon copy of it. The two romantic leads are perfect. Sam is HAWT. He's much hotter as a gay man. I felt sorry that the other actor was murdered, his life story is as riveting as the movie itself, and he was very handsome and charismatic. I also felt sorry for myself for not seeing it at the time. Julian was stunning, and very good. It's amazing that he didn't become a STAR after this and ARWAV. Also, I want to go back to the 80's.

What r379 describes is more like alpining, which a lot of people like doing- I really wouldn't call it hiking. Did it twice (Mt. Baldy and somewhere in the Sierras), it's way too taxing- you have to wear crampons, your backpack (if you're doing overnights-mine was 35-50 lbs), and sometimes if it's too steep, you have to go up sideways, foot over foot, rather than your body being oriented forward. It's just fucking trudging to the top. And if you're in altitude, it feels like you have asthma with the thinner air.

If Julian brought overnight supplies (sleeping bag, food, tinder, etc), he might be camping out in a hollow, or mini cave. He wouldn't die of dehydration though, because of the snow.

R407 that's most probably what's happening, darling. Julian is camping out in a mini cave, having his water supply from the snow, and he will be found very soon now.

R408- that was IF. Highly doubtful if he did.

[quote] you have to wear crampons,

What if it’s not your time of the month? Are these still necessary?

[quote]Are we still searching for Natalee Holloway?

[quote]We're still searching for Judge Crater.

What are we? Nothing but maggot invested rotted flesh?

The Lindbergh baby was found.

You can stop looking now.

I thought snow was not healthy to eat.

R382 You call people who engage in risky sports “reckless idiots.” There’s a lot of truth in that. But it’s possible to take knowing risks with a level of skill that is equal to the risk. In my twenties and early thirties, one of my favorite sports was mountain climbing. I took classes in it and spent a lot of time on what’s known as a “practice wall” that simulates climbing challenges. There was a practice wall at a facility in West LA where I spent a required 100 hours before making my first climb. I climbed with experienced, knowledgeable people, and we had the right equipment. I never climbed in the winter, but there was often snow and ice at upper elevations. When we reached the summit or whatever our climbing goal was, there was an incredible sense of accomplishment and satisfaction. But I’ll also admit that there’s a lot of narcissism in all this.

Nowadays, I limit climbing to whatever can be done without any specialized equipment. I pretty much limit my activity to simple hiking, arduous or not.

Julian Sands was apparently a very experienced climber, so I’m sure he had the required skills and equipment. What he lacked was simple common sense. He went hiking alone, which is the single worst thing a climber can do. When I mentioned that there’s narcissism involved in completing a climb, there’s an even greater level of narcissism in thinking that as a lone person, you can meet any challenge. Julian Sands must have been this narcissistic and has paid the price.

No, just the yellow snow.

I'm normally very judgy, but I don't get why people are being so judgmental here. Of course he knew he was taking a risk. He'd almost died on a mountain many years ago. He knew it was dangerous. He chose to take the risk. Calling him narcissistic or stupid or whatever is silly. Different people, different choices.

(I do understand about people being pissed off about emergency services being forced to look for people who hike on steep, snowy mountains. But driving is also dangerous; cops and EMTs have to scrape people off the highway.)

Look. Anytime a person engages in some high risk foolishness he puts others at risk. Period. The people who refuse to evacuate for hurricanes or tornadoes, and fires, and go mountain climbing in snow and ice etc. all depend on others to rescue them if they have bad luck or fuck up.

[quote]I'm normally very judgy, but I don't get why people are being so judgmental here. Of course he knew he was taking a risk. He'd almost died on a mountain many years ago. He knew it was dangerous. He chose to take the risk. Calling him narcissistic or stupid or whatever is silly.

R417 has one excellent answer for you. Another answer is that presumably everyone who indulges in high-risk activity for no good reason other than thrills has at least SOME family and/or loved ones in their lives, so their death while doing something completely unnecessary deeply impacts those people.

I've watched a few recent interviews and it seems to me that Julian, apart from looking ghastly, was not there-there

R419 He comes across as almost loony in this. I always thought that he had an odd and stilted way of speaking. That’s very evident in this video v

[quote] He comes across as…

He is talking in 'theater mode'. His director should have told him to use 'subtle mode'.

IMDB says Julian has five films or television shows in post production, so he’ll be on a screen several times in 2023. Ominously, one thing he’s in is called “The Last Breath”.

Glad to see him working, I miss his hot face on my TV screen

His mouth forms words as though he has suffered a stroke. Maybe he did actually have a stroke at some point?

I don't think there's anything weird about the way he speaks in that video. Some of you cranks just don't recognize good, clear, pronunciation of English with a Brit accent when you hear it

R424 I remember his odd way of speaking as far back as A Room With A View. He seems very affected in the way he speaks and does contorted things with his mouth and jaw. I thought he was great looking in ARWAV but his stiff and contrived manner was very off-putting.

R424 He's talked like that in all his films.

[quote] Yes and where are down to intermittent searching.

Is he doing intermittent fasting? I tell you, it works!

R424 He speaks (well, probably, “spoke”) with Received Pronunciation. Obviously a challenge for our American contributors to understand but the rest of the world seems to understand with no problem.

R429 “Spake” perhaps?

Received Pronunciation (RP) is the standard dialect of British English. It is the accent of English that is considered to be standard or neutral. RP is also known as the Queen’s English, Oxford English, or BBC English. The term “Received Pronunciation” was first used by Alexander Ellis in 1869.

I may be feeling sentimental due to the poor man's demise, but I'm enjoying the video from R419 very much. I'd like to hear Julian speak with his original Northern England accent, but they likely flogged it out of him at school.

[quote]What he lacked was simple common sense.

Plenty of people misjudge the weather or base their decision to go ahead on the last time they hiked the area, unaware of changes or differences since then, and that's not a lack of common sense. He'd been hiking for so long that I would guess whatever happened to him was either a mistake or bad luck, rather than carelessness or cluelessness.

I think he had bad luck, R433. I think he was injured and couldn't get help and died.

R433, perhaps you missed the little tidbit of info that Sands almost died on a mountain years ago. If someone has a near-death experience when doing something that's completely unnecessary, except for the thrill factor, and then chooses to do it AGAIN, then I would say that person lacks simple common sense.

R433 it’s simple common sense to never hike or climb alone, particularly in a remote area with known dangers.

I think this is going to be fabulous! Julian is part of what looks like an incredible movie.

R437 I’ve read that Julian was given the part at the insistence of John Malkovich.

A reminder of his former beauty.

[Quote]I thought snow was not healthy to eat.

you must be from New York

R437 - Geez unless Julian has no lines they could have given him something in the trailer as a tribute.

My theory is his remains will be found the morning of the Oscars just to fuck with the In Memoriam tribute.

Tilda Swinton IS Julian in the Lifetime movie!

Bad decisions.

"What he lacked was simple common sense. He went hiking alone, which is the single worst thing a climber can do."

Worse than going hiking alone, was that he went hiking in SERIOUS storm conditions. The week he went missing was a week when California saw the most serious storms it's seen for a decade or two, when there was deep snow where it wouldn't be expected, stealth ice, landslides and avalanches, etc. I know Sands had lived in California for "twenty years", but as both his work and his hobbies meant frequent travel, he may not have been in California when it was being seriously pounded by winter storms, he may not have realized that he was walking into conditions where the wind might blow him across the ice on the trail and into the Baldy Bowl avalanche basin, or whatever happened.

Well, there are worse ways to go out than to die doing something you love, and I say that because I'm in my sixties too and I still take risks. If I go out now, then boo hoo I won't have to deal with old age, so bring on the sea kayaks and live volcanoes! I just hope it was quick for him. Or for me, if it comes to that.

My. Baldy forecast: Clear tomorrow, more snow Saturday night. Julian’s body is safely encased in ice and snow.

Let’s meet up in 60 years!

The ice and snow should keep him well-preserved until spring, when he’ll finally be found. He’ll still be ready for his closeup.

R444 I try hard to feel sympathy for these two human dumpsters, but I can't. I think they deserved their fate, and she should have died gruesomely too. NO, actually, she deserves to live to regret her stupidity. Unequipped, unprepared, told no one of their whereabouts and warned against the hike by the locals. They couldn't even speak english. When that cunt was in the hut, she couldn't read the instructions for the radio. People like that make me sick. Like these dutch or swedish female tourists who go camping alone in remote parts of terrosists infested muslims countries, or hike in the Columbian jungle. Or that guy who went swimming in rough waters off the coast of Australia last summer, fully clad in a seal suit, and was filmed being chomped to pieces by a great white. I can't. I even call my mother on the phone (upstairs) when I climb up a step to replace a light bulb.

He hasn't looked well for some time. Depression? (Along with a bad case of mange). Maybe he wanted to check out and he chose this way. One last hike, found a nice spot to sit or lie down in and let the cold do the rest of the work. I've read accounts from people who nearly froze to death, that you start feeling very, very sleepy and just drift off.

[quote]r427 He's talked like that in all his films.

Well then, I’m glad he’s dead!

[quote]r429 He speaks (well, probably, “spoke”) with Received Pronunciation.

Is that caused by receiving a lot of cock in your mouth?

No, R452 - it’s caused by not being an American rube.

Gotta love the UK—you have to learn and then keep a specific accent (not the one you grew up with) just to have a chance to do well. I’ll stick with the hood ok’ USA, where how your $ talks is what’s important, not to your adopted accent.

* good ol’ USA

I never faked an American accent.

[quote]I've read accounts from people who nearly froze to death, that you start feeling very, very sleepy and just drift off.

I'll believe it when I hear it from someone who actually froze to death.

R454 The Brits are retaining their regional accents. This detailed video is accurate—

[quote]or hike in the Columbian jungle.

Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.

[quote]Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.

Marry me!❤

Well, there was that girl that got stabbed to death in Morningside Park a few years ago…

And, Morningside is in Harlem not the UWS.

It seems pretty far-fetched to think that Julian is still alive, but it’s nice to know that some people still hold out hope.

[quote]Or that guy who went swimming in rough waters off the coast of Australia last summer, fully clad in a seal suit, and was filmed being chomped to pieces by a great white.

Wait. Whut?

R464 Here it is.

That poor little Kintner boy.

Reality is setting in. Julian is a goner.

In planning a hike in a wilderness area, two of the most important things are to let someone know where you’ll be and to have at least one hiking partner. Julian told his wife where he would be hiking that Friday and what time he intended to be home. But he went alone, which was foolish, especially for a location such as Mt. Baldy. His wife contacted the Sheriff’s office Friday evening when he hadn’t returned. The Sheriff started a foot search that evening, despite deteriorating weather conditions. This continued on Saturday, until a heavy storm set in, but an aerial search was begun. No time was lost in searching for him. His body must have been covered in snow after he presumably fell, since there was heavy snowfall that started on Friday night. He could also have been buried under an avalanche. I don’t think his body is going to be found until the snow and ice begin to melt.

[quote]Parts of the Upper West Side may be rough, but I'd hardly call it a jungle.

Now Hudson University, on the other hand ...

He looks like a hobo in recent pictures

Maybe he hit his head on a rock and lost his memory, found his way onto the valley, and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ? these things happen

[quote] Nothing in the world could force me to go hiking in a snowy moutain. Or anywhere else for that matter. Why do people even do that ?

The San Gabriel Mtns/Angeles Forest has the misfortune of being located right next to one of the country's largest metros, and so they attract lots of city people who aren't necessarily familiar with the dangers of the great outdoors. City people can tend to treat mother nature like a theme park.

A song, for Julian:

[quote]Maybe he hit his head on a rock and lost his memory, found his way onto the valley, and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ? these things happen—Valene Ewing

They most certainly do.

A friend of mine is an avid hiker. He said he did Mt Baldy in summer and there was still snow in parts and that it was still sketchy. He said going up there in the dead of winter is a deathwish

Years ago I did a snow hike and lost my footing and was unable to self-arrest. I remained surprisingly calm while sliding and thought this is it. Luckily for me, I hit a lone scrubby pine which stopped my slide into oblivion. In spring they found a young woman's body in the area, and I never felt like hiking in snow again. It really scared me. I still ski, however.

I think other hikers will find his body; he probably bivouacked but still died of exposure.

It’s very sad.

Oh please, can we talk about the elephant in the room ? the tragic hair ?

R472 This pretty well sums it up.

Is he dead yet?

Yes—

Nute 😵‍💫

Julian Sands played a key role in Season 5 of "24" -- widely thought to be the best season of the show and some phenomenal television.

I love Julian to death, but "leading man" is a bit far fetched. He had a prominent part in ONE hit movie, that was massively women driven. Carter was the lead, and Smith was a co-lead IMO. Also, he looked divine, but spoke all of his lines as if his brackets had suddenly unhooked and been caught in in tongue in the middle of the take. (which might account for his non-career)

Betty Bacall LOVED the costumes

The man admitted to packing his favorite vintage wines for his treks in an article linked either upthread or in previous one. Interpret that as you will.

I don't recall if it was mentioned, but is anyone familiar with the wild life in the areas where he may have been hiking? Bears, coyotes, wild cats, etc.?

Julian had his naked pics from when he was training to be Tarzan on his cellphone. one of you Angelenos needs to go find him and retrieve that.

R486 - it was mentioned before but again - Coyotes, raccoons, black bears, mountain lions, big horn sheep, mule deer, bobcats, gray foxes and long-tailed weasels are some of the larger animals that survive in the habitats of Mt. Baldy’s mountainous regions.

[quote]Coyotes, raccoons, black bears, mountain lions, big horn sheep, mule deer, bobcats, gray foxes and long-tailed weasels

Furries paradise.

[quote]I love Julian to death,

Unfortunate choice of words.

R483 He was the lead in 'Warlock' and 'Boxing Helena'!

The more I read about him via this thread, the more I like him. RIP on that cold mountain, mon ami.

R486 there are bears, coyotes, mountain lions, mule deer, bobcats, bighorn sheep, and raccoons. .

It’s hard to believe it’s been 33 years, but I saw a first cut of Arachnophobia at the Disney studios where a friend worked as a story editor. I remarked to my friend that the music score was bad and that Sands had a weird and disembodied voice. I thought his line readings were even more stilted than in ARWAV. She agreed and said his voice was best suited to playing pompous characters and villains.

[quote]and is now working as a waiter in some small town diner, with no recollection of who he is ?

Yeah, but can he scat his intro? I think not.

R486, others have said there are bears up there.

I’ve only noticed twinks and eldergays.

R496 I’m one of the elder gays you’ve seen hiking Mt. Baldy. But only when most of the snow has melted. I’ve skied Baldy in the winter, but I prefer Big Bear if I’m going to ski locally. I wonder how Julian Sands’ disappearance and likely death will affect the mountain’s popularity. I’m afraid it’s going to increase the number of people who hike it.

[quote]I wonder how Julian Sands’ disappearance and likely death will affect the mountain’s popularity. I’m afraid it’s going to increase the number of people who hike it.

Which tells you a lot about anyone who would be stupid and reckless enough to do so, especially without taking all necessary precautions, including but not limited to not hiking alone.

Sounds good to me.

[quote] there are bears, coyotes, mountain lions, mule deer, bobcats, bighorn sheep, and raccoons.

So plenty of food! He might have survived after all!!!

I ain't goin' no where there's mountain lions, bobcats and bears. Fuck that.

So the Eagle bar is a no go for you?

So, when will he just be declared fucking dead!!!

Julian is somewhere in this photo. Can you spot him?

R504, when he'll be found next spring, you know what he will be "missing" = eyes, tongue, lips, and other soft tissues

R503, why are you so impatient for him to be declared dead?

[quote]Julian is somewhere in this photo. Can you spot him?

No, but I can spot Wally.

Maybe r503 is the beneficiary of Julian's life insurance.

R507 As a Brit, Julian would get that reference, but here in the US he goes by Waldo.

[quote]but here in the US he goes by Waldo.

Why would he change his name?

He’s secretive like that, hiding in plain sight, changing names, keeping off shore bank accounts.

R504, isn’t that him in the upper right corner? About the 12:53 (pm, not am) position? See him? It’s right there. No, not there, a little further over. No, a little mo—Jesus! Do I have to point it out to you?!

R504 - the trees were blue that day.

R504, that photo was taken before Julian's last hike so I doubt he's in it.

I’ve been looking at some of the hiking/mountaineering websites I often use, and every one has cautions about hazardous conditions. People are even reporting that it’s difficult to go beyond the ski hut, and that’s far from the Baldy Bowl trail that Julian was probably on. There’s apparently huge, thick slabs of ice that make it difficult to dig in crampons just to follow a trail. There are also large chunks of ice that are hurtling down slopes, endangering hikers. No matter what time of year, there are powerful winds in the area. They’re apparently especially strong today. They can easily cause a hiker to lose his balance. On top of all this, more snow is expected tomorrow. With conditions like this, more foot searches for Julian are going to be difficult.

Hiking up Mount Baldy doesn’t sound like much fun to me.

It’s official: There’s a winter storm warning in effect for Mt. Baldy for today (Tuesday). Julian will have to keep waiting to be found.

Waiting For Julian

R518 = Mt Baldy resident mountain lion

Should he shoot up more flares or wait?

Still more snow to come.

A renowned climber-skier named Zach Milligan died on the weekend climbing alone in the Canadian Rockies; he was 42. The linked profile from a couple of years ago gives a good sense of the psychology of extreme solo climbers.

Thanks R522. Interesting read!

R522 I’ve been following Zach Milligan’s adventures for years, but I hadn’t heard about his death. That’s very sad. I was a climber for about 15 years when I was younger, but never anything as adventurous as what Milligan did. Ice climbing, in particular, is something I never would have attempted. As for skiing down Half Dome, the mind boggles!

Earlier in this thread, I talked about the hazards of Julian hiking in a dangerous area with precipitous drops when there was snow and ice on the ground. My brother and I arrived in Mammoth last night for some skiing. This morning, I slipped on some ice in a restaurant parking lot. As I fell, I managed to set off someone’s car alarm. Better than falling to my death down Baldy Bowl.

[quote]As I fell, I managed to set off someone’s car alarm. Better than falling to my death down Baldy Bowl.

We would have preferred the latter.

The Polar Circus

They’re still trying to find him. I hope this latest search is successful.

I’m getting a bad feeling about this.

NOW you're getting a bad feeling about this, R528?

They just found someone in the Alps who was lost 50 years ago!

Why didn’t he at very least take a flair gun?

He took wine on his hikes? De definitely died happy!

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He aged backwards to 32? Was there some time travel involved in all of this?

[quote]Why didn’t he at very least take a flair gun?

Maybe because he wasn’t planning on doing his hair. Or any decorating for that matter.

R530 That's nothing!

Ok, that missing woman has been found. Can we back to looking for me?

Here’s the weather forecast for Mt Baldy for the next few days. The chart also shows the high and low temperatures for four different elevations of the mountain. It looks like there will be generally clear weather, but the temperature at upper elevations, where Julian likely is, will be well below freezing. This should be good weather for the planned ground searches.

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It seems like Julian doesn't want to be found.

Has anyone called “Olly, Olly Oxen Free!” yet?

I've done my part by watching "A Room With a View" today.

Here’s a lot more detail plus a brief video of the finding of the latest body. It’s hard to understand how this supposedly experienced hiker would have embarked on such a dangerous hike with imminent bad weather. Exactly the same can be said of Julian.

R543 At least this hiker posted his hiking route on the internet. But apparently he couldn’t follow his planned route and got lost due to the heavy snowfall. And the worst part of it is that he went ALONE. It sounds like he may have fallen and then died of exposure.

More bad weather news for Southern California mountain areas.

Graupel- I don't think I've ever encountered it, even from various winter hiking and ice cllimbing events.

I’ve never heard of Graupel. DL is so educational.

I predict Julian’s body will be found by 30 August.

Thank you Nostradamus. What a comfort to have you with us!

It's awful to think that he, of one of the greatest screen kisses ever, and a visage and floppy blond hair over which millions sighed over, is now being nibbled by critters.

How strange the journey of life can be.

R549 Yes, life has its ups and downs.

This is the first comment I’ve read from John Malkovich. I’ve seen him described as Julian’s best friend.

Here’s a longer article about Julian and John’s friendship. Very nice photo of them together. And showing their age!

Wow the English Curse is strong in r552's photo.

John Malkovitch isn't english

He should be, r554.

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R556 Incredible that more than 20 people conducted a ground search a few days ago and couldn’t find anything. They apparently were searching where a Recco device had indicated a chance of something. Avalanches of not just snow but huge slabs of ice are known to occur in that area. Julian is likely buried under tons of ice. On top of all this, one of the biggest and coldest storms in years is due to hit the area in a day or two.

Can't they just defrost him when they find him?

Maybe he run off to hide in the wilderness because he’s ashamed of the way he looks

[quote]Can't they just defrost him when they find him?

They don't have that big of a microwave.

There’s an official Winter Storm Warning in effect for the next few days for Mt. Baldy. Heavy snowfall predicted that will bury Julian even deeper. That earlier prediction that he wouldn’t be found until the end of August might be accurate after all.

Dude is CLEARLY dead. Isn't there anything more important for search and rescue to do?

Told you I was hardcore!

R550 = Charlotte Bartlett

and R549 =Eleanor Lavish, obvioulsy

There is NO point in sending Search-and-Rescue up there! Corpses covered by snow are invisible, and just going up there in the snow, ice, and wind is dangerous for the searchers.

There can't be pressure from other hikers, we hikers and climbers understand that although we're willing to risk our own lives, we don't want other to risk theirs to save us from the consequences of our actions - especially if the search is obviously futile. So any pressure is probably coming from some fool administrator who doesn't want to be known as the administrator who failed to find a celebrity corpse, or members of the public who don't know enough to be taken seriously. The ONLY sensible thing to do at this point, is to wait for the snow to melt. So what if that takes until August, waiting won't do Sands any harm.

The storm hitting CA over the next few days makes searching impossible. I suspect we won't find any trace of him until mid- March.

I’m currently in Mammoth, and the storm has already arrived here. It’s a FIERCE blizzard. Tons of snow is coming down, and I’m sure Baldy will be getting a heavy blanketing of new snow.

FOR CHRIST’S SAKE, TWO MORE HIKERS HAD TO BE RESCUED BY HELICOPTER FROM THE SIDE OF MT. BALDY TODAY!

Is it like this every fucking winter?

Why haven't idiots stopped climbing Mt. Baldy?

IMO they ought to ban hiking during extreme weather the same way they close beaches. When someone needs to be rescued they a ren't just putting themselves at risk. Dumb fuckers.

They're talking about snow as low as 1500 feet and even in the Santa Monica Mountains, which rarely get snow.

Here’s what’s coming.

It's odd how they found Robert Gregory but not Julian.

A California hiker who went missing a month ago has been found dead near a frozen summit in the San Gabriel Mountains, officials said.

The body was discovered about 300 feet below the summit of Mount Islip in the Angeles National Forest

Search and rescue personnel confirmed that the hiker’s body was recovered in "snow/ice" on the mountain.

Gregory died of blunt force trauma and his manner of death was ruled an accident, the Los Angeles County coroner said.

[quote]Powerful winter storm to bring low-elevation snow, heavy rain and frigid temps to Southern California

Come on, fellow hikers! Who could resist?

[quote]Why haven't idiots stopped climbing Mt. Baldy?

In "the film "Star Trek V", Mr. Spock asks Captain Kirk why he is climbing the mountain and Kirk replies "Because it is there". (Spock then has to rescue Kirk when he falls off).

I guess hiking the mountains is just too tempting for some people.

R571 Watch the news = They are Dataloungers trying to locate Julian's phone to retrieve his nude pics as Tarzan from the 80's. there are scores of them on Mt Baldy RIGHT NOW, most of them eldergays.

R578 We need to locate a youngster to hack into Julian's cloud storage. Think of the lives spared!!

The County Sheriff's department has warned unprepared, unequipped DL eledergays not to try climbing Mt Baldy, especially since most rescue cases had never hiked before, or even left their mother's basement.

“Weather will be dangerous……heavy snowfall……hurricane force winds…..dangerous wind chill……hypothermia within minutes”

This will bring out all the REAL MEN.

And this is expected to last until next week.

Lost/stranded and eating snow -fresh snow, haha- is not advised because it uses up too much of your body energy to melt it. If you have a camp stove or can make a fire to melt it, then okay.

Can’t we just send Leo DiCaprio out there to find him, he knows how to kill a bear and survive in its warm body so he has the skills needed.

[quote]It's odd how they found Robert Gregory but not Julian.

What's odd about it? There can be any number of reasons why one was found but not the other, depending on exactly what happened to both men.

This is a really bad career move on his part. I doubt he'll get signed for many more movies.

Los Angeles County gets its first ever blizzard warning! It may be just for the mountains, but “LA” and “blizzard” don’t usually go together. Julian is going to have to be patient.

R569 Those two young hikers who had to be rescued by helicopter from the side of Mt. Baldy yesterday got into trouble because “their equipment failed.” What does that mean? Their crampons failed? Their ice tools failed? At least their cell phone didn’t fail and they were able to call for help. It sounds like these two guys were inexperienced and foolishly set out to hike a dangerous mountain during a period of bad weather. The people who have to save this type of hiker must really be fed up at having to risk their own safety to save them.

We’re in Mammoth, snowed-in and stuck here until the weather improves. It’s extra cold and windy, which makes skiing less fun, so we stayed in today. What we saved in not having to buy lift tickets will be spent on some icy martinis.

Wow. I'm not even sure he will be found this year.

‘It never snows in Southern California…”

Nothing wrong with being compost.

Have they called off the search? There are any number of caves he could be living in.

[quote]There are any number of caves he could be living in.

Some caves even have furniture.

Will this finally end California's drought?

How long until he's declared dead, so the family can have his stuff?

Call me Ötzi 2!

Mt. Baldy Resort is closed today. No skiing! Too much snow!

Here’s the harrowing story of a woman who survived a 200-foot fall in the vicinity of Mt. Baldy.

Anyone up for a Thread Part III? This one is closing out in two posts.

I’m ready for Part Three.

Here’s Part Three.

It was Spock's fault that he fell, R577.