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Advice needed, puhlease

I have a some old photos on a photo site that I took (when I was VERY young, although I look pretty much the same) of NYC in the 1970s.

I got an email from someone asking if they could use one of my pics for a documentary they're making for "A+E Networks".

At first I wrote back and just said, sure, go ahead.

Now she's written back saying she needs my written permission.

Part of me thinks maybe they should offer to pay me something before I sign. In the past my pics have been used in publications such as The New York Observer and others, without even asking my permission, though I was acknowledged.

What do YOU think? I don't even know what "A+E Networks" is, I live in England.

by Anonymousreply 18January 29, 2023 5:57 AM

Ask for the money, honey.

by Anonymousreply 1January 24, 2023 4:06 PM

Ask for $$—even if it’s nominal. Eg $100 per image.

by Anonymousreply 2January 24, 2023 4:08 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking, R2.

by Anonymousreply 3January 24, 2023 4:14 PM

I may be wrong, but I think if they pay you for your images, they now own them, and can use them for whatever/whenever.

I'm sure someone more familiar with public domain/copyright laws could shed more light.

Any nudies?

by Anonymousreply 4January 24, 2023 4:25 PM

We need to see the photos to give you a truly informed opinion.

by Anonymousreply 5January 24, 2023 6:07 PM

OP, a friend of mine works in this field and he says it runs the gamut, from the rights holders offering a photo's use for free, or getting a smallish fee. These docs are usually made by small independent companies and then rented by A&E, although they're all different. The fee for a non-famous photo might be a couple hundred bucks, but perhaps not more than $350.

Video of a very specific thing that can't be found anywhere else would have a higher use fee.

by Anonymousreply 6January 24, 2023 6:22 PM

Thanks for the info, R6. Much appreciated.

by Anonymousreply 7January 24, 2023 7:38 PM

Keep ownership rights. Many people sign away their rights for a small fee. Then, a corporation swoops in, uses the image and makes millions off of it. Your photos must be valuable if a large company wants them. See a lawyer.

by Anonymousreply 8January 24, 2023 7:45 PM

[quote] Your photos must be valuable if a large company wants them.

Maybe. They've had half a million views on Flickr alone.

I've posted them on Facebook NYC photo groups and have thousands of thumbs up and I've since found them posted on all sorts of blogs etc. that I hadn't even been aware of. People have a big fascination with New York in the '70s. It's often photos that I think are the least interesting that get the biggest reaction.

by Anonymousreply 9January 24, 2023 7:52 PM

R8 beat me to it. Even if you allow them to use the photo for free, retain the rights and indicate that you are allowing them to use the photo one time in one medium. Do a Google search for a copyright lawyer who can draw up a simple one page contract.

by Anonymousreply 10January 25, 2023 1:11 AM

[quote]They've had half a million views on Flickr alone. I've posted them on Facebook NYC photo groups and have thousands of thumbs up and I've since found them posted on all sorts of blogs etc. that I hadn't even been aware of.

So why are you reluctant to post some of them here, or post a link?

by Anonymousreply 11January 25, 2023 1:27 AM

You are the guy who loved 🥰 big American cars when you were a kid. I started the thread about big American cars of the 1970’s a while back.

by Anonymousreply 12January 25, 2023 2:05 AM

Would it kill you to just say no?

by Anonymousreply 13January 25, 2023 2:16 AM

Say no, and if they end up using it, sue them for a lot more money than they would have paid you if you had said yes.

by Anonymousreply 14January 25, 2023 2:20 AM

[quote]Say no, and if they end up using it, sue them for a lot more money than they would have paid you if you had said yes.

Not how documentaries work.

Every production must buy insurance for such things, therefore EVERY copyrighted image or video must be accompanied by a signed release by the rights holders granting permission for its use in the project. These images include even tattoos and observable album cover photography and images. The lawyers demand document approval for every image before the film is locked and released. The situation you suggest rarely if ever happens in real life.

by Anonymousreply 15January 25, 2023 2:44 AM

Oh drag, i thought it was pictures of u op. I thought he must be hot hot.

by Anonymousreply 16January 25, 2023 2:50 AM

License your photos to them for a fee with explicit stipulations on how, where and when they can use them. But specify that you retain ownership and all copyrights of the photos.

by Anonymousreply 17January 25, 2023 3:00 AM

UPDATE:

So I wrote back and suggested she offer me a fee and it seems to have scared her off. Silence has fallen.

Makes me glad I didn't get involved, quite frankly.

by Anonymousreply 18January 29, 2023 5:57 AM
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