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North Dakota Could Jail Librarians Who Don’t Comply with Anti-LGBTQ+ Book Bans

North Dakota lawmakers have introduced legislation to ban books that contain “sexually explicit” content from public libraries, including a provision that could jail librarians if they don’t comply.

While Republican legislators around the country have introduced similar bills over the past year, most apply only to school libraries. House Bill 1205, however, would ban all public libraries from stocking “sexually explicit” materials in the name of protecting children, meaning that readers of all ages would be banned from accessing LGBTQ+-inclusive texts, which are largely what these bans restrict.

Introduced Tuesday by North Dakota House Representatives Mike Lefor and Vicky Steiner, the bill would redefine “explicit sexual material” to include “deviant sexual intercourse,” “sadomasochistic abuse,” “sexual perversion,” “sexual identity,” and/or “gender identity.” Neither “deviant” nor “perversion” are defined in the bill, a likely intentionally vague wording that could apply to just about anything. The public will be allowed to submit removal requests to libraries regarding books that violate the bill. Libraries must individually develop review processes for these requests, and if found guilty, they would be forced to remove the book within 30 days of receiving the request. Those who are found guilty of stocking such books would be guilty of a Class B misdemeanor, which carries a penalty of up to 30 days in jail, a fine of $1,500, or both.

Lefor cited the graphic novel Let's Talk About It: The Teen's Guide to Sex, Relationships, and Being a Human as one reason why he put the bill forth, according to the Bismarck Tribune. Referencing illustrations of nudity, Lefor stated that he thought the content was “disgusting,” and that public libraries “should put it in a restricted area where (children) need to get permission from their parents to take a book out like this, but they're offering it to junior high school kids ... and when we grew up, we didn't need things like this.”

“This is not a way to raise our kids, and we have to do everything we can to make sure that this doesn't get into the hands of children, especially without their parents' knowledge,” Lefor told the Tribune.

However, Allan Blume, the vice president of North Dakota’s Valley City Barnes County Public Library Board of Directors, defended the book’s educational value. “If I was a 13 or 15 or 17-year-old who had not gotten the education through the school system or through an interested and engaged family,” Blume said in comments reported by Valley News Live, “that book serves a crucial, crucial function.”

The bill comes just days after North Dakota lawmakers introduced a bill that would ban doctors from providing minors with transition-related healthcare, including hormones, surgery, and puberty blockers. The so-called “Help Not Harm” bill would strip doctors who provide such care of their licensing, and would allow patients who have been “harmed” by such care to take retroactive civil action against doctors up to the age of 25.

Both book bans and anti-trans healthcare bills proliferated in 2022. The American Library Association reported in September that 681 attempts to ban or restrict library resources had been filed in the first eight months of 2022, the highest number in decades. Fifteen bills restricting trans healthcare were introduced in 2022, with even more already introduced in state legislative sessions this year.

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by Anonymousreply 76January 25, 2023 9:51 PM

Shithole state.

by Anonymousreply 1January 24, 2023 4:46 AM

You guys say that about every state that isn’t NY or California r1. When in reality those states are beautiful despite their awful people.

by Anonymousreply 2January 24, 2023 4:49 AM

Dangerously backwards to seek to ban like this

by Anonymousreply 3January 24, 2023 4:51 AM

R3 get ready for a lot more of this. Recently the Proud Boys felt comfortable to walk around NYC protesting anti-gay shit. Wake up. They’re everywhere now.

by Anonymousreply 4January 24, 2023 4:53 AM

Shithole state. The upper Mountain and prairie states are some of the country's worst.

by Anonymousreply 5January 24, 2023 4:54 AM

Freedom!!!

by Anonymousreply 6January 24, 2023 4:54 AM

How much do any of you wanna bet this asshole diddled his kids or has CP on some computer?

Or… he’s got an active account on Grindr.

by Anonymousreply 7January 24, 2023 4:55 AM

Kids will go online for a look at this sort of stuff so pretty silly to ban it in libraries.

by Anonymousreply 8January 24, 2023 6:19 AM

Banning books = banning people. Forbid the symbols---for "In the beginning was the Word"---and the objects cannot be.

That is the hope; that is the plan.

by Anonymousreply 9January 24, 2023 6:31 AM

r8 They know this. It's not about protecting children. This specific action is about sending a hateful message. It's a public library, not a school full of minor children. There is no reason for it other than dog whistling.

by Anonymousreply 10January 24, 2023 6:33 AM

They do know their Christian bible is full of sexually explicit (and ultra violent) content, no?

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by Anonymousreply 11January 24, 2023 8:03 AM

Maybe some repeats from R11 but here's more Christian bible sauciness

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by Anonymousreply 12January 24, 2023 8:05 AM

They really are knuckle dragging barbarians, aren’t they? I can’t comprehend that half this country is this ignorant and hateful. These good Christian folk are rotten to the core.

by Anonymousreply 13January 24, 2023 8:14 AM

Sadly, not a surprise. As much progress as we’ve made we still have so much further to go. There has always been a strong streak of narrow-minded anti-intellectualism in this country. We’ve had to engage in this battle over and over again throughout our history. Hell, the assault on evolution by creationists is still going on 100 years after the Scopes Monkey Trial.

And, yes, we have to battle this every step of the way. It would be nice if we would have the backing of the Supreme Court, but since tRump was allowed to pack the Court with three reich-wing bigots to join the two who were already there, any assistance from them is shaky at best — but more likely nonexistent.

by Anonymousreply 14January 24, 2023 8:44 AM

In fairness to Christianity per se and not necessarily its purported adherents, the New Testament supercedes the Old.

That is to say, the alleged historical accounts of adultery, incest, and assorted debaucheries of the OT are not the tenets of the NT and thus not of Christianity, Jesus being only in the NT.

E.g., The God of Smiting One's Enemies is superceded by the Prince of Peace and Loving One's Enemies. E.g., The God of Killing Jezebel is superceded by the Jesus of Protecting and Forgiving the Adulteress Against the Hypocrites. And so on.

by Anonymousreply 15January 24, 2023 2:20 PM

R14 progress? The issue is the media pushes an agenda (and yes, they do) that they think will push “progress” but only ends up building more aggressive pushback. In everything, where there is “progress” pushing forward, there is just as much pushback.

This is what no one talks about.

by Anonymousreply 16January 24, 2023 3:29 PM

I always get a headache reading DL comments on these topics. The weird assumption it’s only religious people who are homophobic needs to die. There are people who are atheists who think it’s wrong and unnatural. They don’t view it as a “sin”, but they view it as an unnatural act that goes against basic human science.

by Anonymousreply 17January 24, 2023 3:30 PM

Ah, the right wing trolls arrive on schedule.

by Anonymousreply 18January 24, 2023 3:35 PM

[quote]When in reality those states are beautiful despite their awful people.

They're shitholes *because* of their awful people, r2. It doesn't refer to their landscapes.

by Anonymousreply 19January 24, 2023 3:37 PM

Maybe this will finally motivate librarians to reassess their priorities and do something better with their lives.

by Anonymousreply 20January 24, 2023 3:44 PM

I certainly did grow up around some ignorant people. Do you know what horrible thing the folks in my neck of the woods did once when I was a young ‘un? They burned books!

The townspeople made a big pile of 'em out in front of the library, and they threw a torch on top. Only, Big Daddy was outraged. He fought his way through that crowd, clawed his way to the top of that pile, grabbed that lit torch, and turned to that crowd and said, "What are you people doin'? This is lunacy. You start a fire from the bottom!”

by Anonymousreply 21January 24, 2023 4:39 PM

I grew up around ignorant people too. In NYC.

by Anonymousreply 22January 24, 2023 4:41 PM

Ouch! r20

by Anonymousreply 23January 24, 2023 4:45 PM

Shhhhhh!!!

by Anonymousreply 24January 24, 2023 4:55 PM

I always wonder what sane, open-minded, kind, intelligent straight people think when LGBTQ people are persecuted yet again? Do they cluck their tongues then just put it out of their minds? Are they enraged at the injustice? Is it like Nazi Germany: "Terrible, but we just can't afford to get involved..."?

by Anonymousreply 25January 24, 2023 4:58 PM

I also grew up around profoundly ignorant people in the NYC metro area. There are far, far more such people in the NYC area than in both Dakotas combined.

by Anonymousreply 26January 24, 2023 4:59 PM

Many lawsuits are in the works, I am sure. The first Amendment cannot be eroded and compromised.

by Anonymousreply 27January 24, 2023 5:23 PM

This is actually Democracy in action.

These red state hell holes are full of regressive losers and this is what they prefer and keep voting for. There are two solutions, vote them out, which would mean you'd actually have to register to vote and then show up to vote, or move the hell out and live in a less backward state.

by Anonymousreply 28January 24, 2023 6:01 PM

Well, just based on population that would be safe bet.

1.5 million (combined Dakotas) vs. 8.5 million (NYC).

by Anonymousreply 29January 24, 2023 8:46 PM

The “god” of the Old Testament is the same “god” of the new.

by Anonymousreply 30January 24, 2023 8:51 PM

R26, and yet NY isn't passing these kinds of laws

by Anonymousreply 31January 24, 2023 8:53 PM

R16 is blaming progressive (or even just moderate) people for the far right. No, they're to blame for their own hate

by Anonymousreply 32January 24, 2023 8:55 PM

Well I never in all my life!

by Anonymousreply 33January 24, 2023 9:21 PM

[quote] It doesn't refer to their landscapes.

North Dakota is not a beautiful landscape.

by Anonymousreply 34January 24, 2023 9:33 PM

The southern part of the state is quite beautiful, R34, but the rest is very plain. The people there are horrible, save the Indigenous people who have to tolerate the nutcases.

by Anonymousreply 35January 24, 2023 9:54 PM

I was sure that North Dakota must be the least visited state. There's nothing there and it's not on the way to anywhere else, but apparently the least visited are Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, Delaware and Vermont. WTF? Why are tourists flocking to North Dakota over all those places which seem much more to be vacation destinations (maybe not Delaware so much, but it has some nice beaches). I don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 36January 24, 2023 9:55 PM

There is a lot there if you like mountains and nature. It’s beautiful. You don’t go to those states to spend money you don’t have and take pictures by tall buildings. It’s for outdoorsy people.

by Anonymousreply 37January 24, 2023 9:57 PM

These morons have clearly never been on the internet? Who needs to go to the library to learn about these sexually deviant "topics"?

by Anonymousreply 38January 24, 2023 10:01 PM

Yeah, ND probably has some beauty spots, but all those northern states are outdoorsy and have skiing. I’ve just never heard of anyone vacationing in North Dakota. Must be a well-kept secret.

I think the MAGATs know full well that kids are exposed to everything online and not from library books. They just get upset about their “tax dollars” going to something they don’t like, plus the thrill of bullying librarians, teachers and school board members.

by Anonymousreply 39January 24, 2023 10:08 PM

R39 if you know anything about ND and SD, the natives wanna keep it that way. They don’t want tourists coming and fucking everything up.

by Anonymousreply 40January 24, 2023 10:11 PM

R39, I'd guess that the visitors to North Dakota are Canadians who may go there for cross-border shopping. I knew people who used to shop in Fargo at least once or twice a year, but that was before Trump and Covid.

by Anonymousreply 41January 24, 2023 10:13 PM

[quote] [R39] if you know anything about ND and SD, the natives wanna keep it that way. They don’t want tourists coming and fucking everything up.

Oh, please. Nobody is clamoring to go traveling through the barren wasteland of North Dakota's flat and underwhelming scenery. Maybe that place counts as beautiful in those flat prairies, but not to anyone west of the Rockies.

by Anonymousreply 42January 24, 2023 10:33 PM

This is not a winning issue to argue in favor of sexually explicit material in schools. Why do we shoot ourselves in the foot?

by Anonymousreply 43January 24, 2023 10:50 PM

Sure, Jan @ r26.

by Anonymousreply 44January 24, 2023 10:59 PM

This all stems from the trans and radical gender movement which has parents freaked out. Gays are just along for the ride because of that ridiculous “queer” bubble “gay” organizations (now taken over by trans) have created. We’re being lumped in with them and trannies have blurred the line between gay and trans.

At the end of the day, what kid even goes to the library? Many of them are closing down. Kids just go online.

by Anonymousreply 45January 24, 2023 11:07 PM

[quote] This is not a winning issue to argue in favor of sexually explicit material in schools. Why do we shoot ourselves in the foot?

Shit like this.

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by Anonymousreply 46January 24, 2023 11:09 PM

Appropriate for kids.

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by Anonymousreply 47January 24, 2023 11:09 PM

Yes r47. That was added to schools mandatory reading lists in some states for kids as young as 8 years old, which is what has caused this strong pushback. There was already pushback but now it’s stronger.

I am sorry but I agree with the parents upset about this.

by Anonymousreply 48January 24, 2023 11:12 PM

Oh, r45, why don't you go back to your Gloria Steinem bashing thread?

by Anonymousreply 49January 24, 2023 11:12 PM

R49 = Karen

Can someone get the manager for Karen?

by Anonymousreply 50January 24, 2023 11:14 PM

R45 that isn’t true though. Wake up. Gay men have always been targeted. Idk why you always lie.

Look at what just happened with that gay couple who adopted two boys and were raping them, making child porn with them and renting out their sons to men for sex. You should see the comments on posts about that.

Yes, it has to do with their fears and biases with GAY MEN. And people like those monsters who adopted then raped those innocent boys only confirm all the fears people like that have.

by Anonymousreply 51January 24, 2023 11:14 PM

R51 is a professional victim.

by Anonymousreply 52January 24, 2023 11:21 PM

Absolute trash in those desolate hellholes.

by Anonymousreply 53January 24, 2023 11:23 PM

[quote] I knew people who used to shop in Fargo at least once or twice a year,

People using their vacation time to go shop in Fargo sounds like the most depressing thing in life.

by Anonymousreply 54January 24, 2023 11:24 PM

I prefer Bismarck.

That’s where the Racoon Lodge’s national cemetery is.

by Anonymousreply 55January 24, 2023 11:34 PM

So funny, Josh Duhamel just mentioned Fargo on Live with Kelly and Ryan earlier.

by Anonymousreply 56January 24, 2023 11:37 PM

R52 where in that post is anything displayed as victimhood?

by Anonymousreply 57January 24, 2023 11:37 PM

This is the same state that sprayed Native Americans with water hoses during the Standing Rock/DAPL pipeline debacle. It pretty much tells you everything you need to know about them.

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by Anonymousreply 58January 24, 2023 11:39 PM

R58 as opposed to the NYPD who were beating up and arresting protesters all throughout 2020???

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by Anonymousreply 59January 24, 2023 11:46 PM

R59, I had no idea this thread was about New York City. You seem obsessed.

by Anonymousreply 60January 24, 2023 11:53 PM

R60 YOU seem obsessed sweetie. The point is you can’t point fingers at one for doing wrong and make the entire state seem terrible for it while turning a blind eye to states you deem as “cool” for doing just as bad shit or even worse.

by Anonymousreply 61January 24, 2023 11:57 PM

R61, New York City contributes a lot to my overall enjoyment of American culture, art, music, cinema, etc.

What exactly does North Dakota offer in comparison? Because from what I see, everything that comes out that state is some horrible new MAGA policy.

by Anonymousreply 62January 25, 2023 12:01 AM

R54, no one goes there for vacation, only for cross border shopping. Fargo's only an hour or two from the border, so people from that part of Ontario can go for an afternoon.

by Anonymousreply 63January 25, 2023 12:14 AM

R43, they're against ANY books about LGBT people, not just "explicit" ones. You Republicans are hypocrites on this issue, you grandstand about "free speech" and "freedom" but you only want freedom for yourselves, not for others

by Anonymousreply 64January 25, 2023 12:19 AM

R59, most members of the NYPD are as conservative as any nut from the Dakotas

by Anonymousreply 65January 25, 2023 12:20 AM

R48, name one "mandatory" list for young children that it was added to

And r45-r47 is one troll. You fuckers are obsessed with trans people but your fellow conservatives have always hated gay men

by Anonymousreply 66January 25, 2023 12:24 AM

These people are so stupid. If you don't want your kids to read LGBT books, don't let them check those books out of the library

by Anonymousreply 67January 25, 2023 12:26 AM

"Home of Paul Bunyan, Babe the blue ox"

by Anonymousreply 68January 25, 2023 12:30 AM

“Free our guns, restrict your books! That’s freedom!” 🇱🇷

by Anonymousreply 69January 25, 2023 1:06 AM

Why should anyone be able to tell anyone else what they can read at a public library?? It’s YOUR job as a parent to worry about what YOUR kids read, not someone else’s kid.

I recently went to my public library’s public board meeting where this little group of weirdos were trying to get about 20 books removed from the library. They got to speak first, but then they were floored when many more people got up to rationally explain why books shouldn’t be banned. The lead book banner dude was a TOTAL FREAK and doesn’t even have kids…but was passing around images from graphic novels. He tried to show them to me and I looked right at him told him to get out of my face.

The library board ultimately decided to not ban or remove any books. Sadly, I don’t think it’s over and I expect there will be more book challenges. I don’t even use the library that much, but I do not agree with censorship in any form.

by Anonymousreply 70January 25, 2023 2:04 AM

[quote]I recently went to my public library’s public board meeting

[quote]I don’t even use the library that much,

In spite of not using it frequently, you took the time to go to a public meeting and because you did there were some damn voices of sanity in there. For that, I thank you.

If we sit on the sidelines and keep our mouths shut, these assholes get away with this stuff.

by Anonymousreply 71January 25, 2023 2:10 AM

[quote] where this little group of weirdos were trying to get about 20 books removed from the library.

How much do you want to bet these conservative fucktards don't even read books at all?

Their idea of 'reading' is following QAnon.

by Anonymousreply 72January 25, 2023 2:15 AM

JFC, those cartoons at R46 & R47 are ridiculous.

“I got off by pressing the front of my jeans, the unopened BOX in my hand”!

Someone, please write a song with these lyrics. 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 73January 25, 2023 2:18 AM

[quote] they're against ANY books about LGBT people, not just "explicit" ones

So the defense strategy is to fight hard to keep sexually explicit material in elementary schools? Talk about being one's own worst enemy.

by Anonymousreply 74January 25, 2023 3:27 AM

Did you not even read the text you quoted?

ANY book depicting LGBT people, regardless if it’s explicit or not.

by Anonymousreply 75January 25, 2023 2:55 PM

r39, what exactly does Notre Dame have to do with this?

by Anonymousreply 76January 25, 2023 9:51 PM
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