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“The Embrace”
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I see it
“The Embrace”
by Anonymous | reply 251 | January 22, 2023 2:01 PM |
[quote] they box eaten
?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | January 14, 2023 5:41 PM |
I see two hands holding up a massive schlong.
Behold the only thing, greater than yourself!
Mmmmmm.... you betcha.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | January 14, 2023 5:44 PM |
[quote]they box eaten
by Anonymous | reply 4 | January 14, 2023 5:44 PM |
Someone fighting a Xenomorph.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | January 14, 2023 5:45 PM |
Hideous. Looks like he's slurping a turd to me.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | January 14, 2023 5:47 PM |
What is that supposed to be - an embrace? It looks nothing like that. How much did the city pay for that.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | January 14, 2023 5:54 PM |
$15 million
by Anonymous | reply 9 | January 14, 2023 6:03 PM |
Someone eating a large watermelon?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | January 14, 2023 6:07 PM |
Leave it to Boston.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | January 14, 2023 6:11 PM |
What a fucking waste of city money
by Anonymous | reply 12 | January 14, 2023 6:12 PM |
It looks like holding up a big turd.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | January 14, 2023 6:18 PM |
I would rather them just call me a slur....
Dr. King
by Anonymous | reply 14 | January 14, 2023 6:23 PM |
What the hell is it?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | January 14, 2023 6:30 PM |
What the fuck are they honoring? Some kind of acid trip? What kind of idiot SJW sculptor came up with this shit? And better yet how much taxpayer money went into this contraption?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | January 14, 2023 7:03 PM |
We should've left sculptures in the 20th century
by Anonymous | reply 18 | January 14, 2023 7:04 PM |
[quote] We should've left sculptures in the 20th century
20th century BCE!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | January 14, 2023 7:09 PM |
R16 is EASILY the best post of this winter.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | January 15, 2023 12:52 AM |
Is should have 2 heads though. Can you put this one on, as well?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | January 15, 2023 12:53 AM |
Looks like some giving a two handed hj to a bbc
by Anonymous | reply 22 | January 15, 2023 12:55 AM |
Does Popeye's have a 2 piece Box Eatin' box?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | January 15, 2023 12:56 AM |
That's a huge penis, of course it's honouring a black man.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | January 15, 2023 12:58 AM |
Hands holding a tumor?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | January 15, 2023 12:59 AM |
I know art is interpretive but this is ridiculous.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | January 15, 2023 1:00 AM |
Da fuck did I just look at?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | January 15, 2023 1:03 AM |
I thought it was someone eating someone's pussy when I first saw this. It's horrible.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | January 15, 2023 1:05 AM |
"'Free At Last," or, Help Me Steady This Snatch as I Munch It Out, Coretta!"
by Anonymous | reply 30 | January 15, 2023 1:08 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 31 | January 15, 2023 1:32 AM |
Boston is honoring somebody embracing a huge steaming trucker's log? Damn.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | January 15, 2023 1:42 AM |
They paid somebody to create this piece of shit?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | January 15, 2023 1:45 AM |
In my day, there was a sense of style about the whole thing, you know. Michelangelo, David. Gorgeous big men who kept their fig leaves to the imagination and just looked gorgeous, and gave the whole thing an air of dignity. Now what have you got? A bunch of recycled Quality Street tins that look like black lesbian arm wrestlers.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | January 15, 2023 2:18 AM |
"...I was a drum major for justice, peace, and cunnilingus."
—Dr. King
by Anonymous | reply 36 | January 15, 2023 3:18 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 37 | January 15, 2023 3:32 AM |
It’s ugly. Lots of public art is
by Anonymous | reply 38 | January 15, 2023 3:34 AM |
You sure is ugly
by Anonymous | reply 39 | January 15, 2023 3:46 AM |
[quote] You sure is ugly
Sho!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | January 15, 2023 3:47 AM |
Grotesque.
This fad for Gigantism is grotesque.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | January 15, 2023 3:49 AM |
I don't even know what it's supposed to be
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 15, 2023 3:50 AM |
^ It's two humans with heads.
It's abhorrent!
by Anonymous | reply 43 | January 15, 2023 3:54 AM |
Horny AF
by Anonymous | reply 44 | January 15, 2023 5:11 AM |
The rapist guy?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | January 15, 2023 5:30 AM |
best.thred.ever.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | January 15, 2023 5:31 AM |
Oh dear.
best.thread.ever.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | January 15, 2023 5:32 AM |
Absolutely vulgar!
by Anonymous | reply 48 | January 15, 2023 6:13 AM |
But, Marty loved white meat.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | January 15, 2023 6:57 AM |
it's supposed to be 2 pairs of arms embracing....
shit artist.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | January 15, 2023 11:41 AM |
Bad Black Artists Lives Matter
by Anonymous | reply 51 | January 15, 2023 11:51 AM |
Hahaha R51.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | January 15, 2023 12:01 PM |
snuck in like a Trojan Horse
by Anonymous | reply 53 | January 15, 2023 12:04 PM |
At the time of his assassination, MLK was about to be named in the divorce of a prominent Los Angeles dentist, whose white wife MLK had been fucking.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | January 15, 2023 12:11 PM |
The King Family lied to the media when Coretta died.
She died in a cancer clinic in Mexico, but the family quickly had her body sent to Atlanta and told the media that is where she died.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | January 15, 2023 12:13 PM |
Is potato?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | January 15, 2023 12:16 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 57 | January 15, 2023 12:17 PM |
I’ll always remember how kind he was to that little boy who was realizing he was gay.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | January 15, 2023 12:20 PM |
[quote] At the time of his assassination, MLK was about to be named in the divorce of a prominent Los Angeles dentist, whose white wife MLK had been fucking.
Link?
by Anonymous | reply 59 | January 15, 2023 12:24 PM |
R58 are you being sarcastic? His response was polite, yes. So in that respect "kind". But filled with the ignorance of the time and the church.
King was an immoral plagiarizing "scholar" and unfaithful husband yet PREACHER, and in the letter attached remains true to form - COMPLETE SPINELESS HYPOCRISY
by Anonymous | reply 60 | January 15, 2023 12:28 PM |
Bwah ha! Ha! Ha! R31!
by Anonymous | reply 61 | January 15, 2023 12:30 PM |
This sculpture is instantly infamous. It will bring tourists just to gawk and laugh. The city will be pleased. The King family? Not so much.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | January 15, 2023 12:35 PM |
Martin Luther King was so handsome
by Anonymous | reply 63 | January 15, 2023 12:39 PM |
Totally agree with r20
r16's post belongs in the DL Pantheon.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | January 15, 2023 12:40 PM |
Is that Lucy Luther King?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | January 15, 2023 12:45 PM |
It reminds me of the scene in Jurassic Park when Laura Dern "finds" Samuel L. Jackson.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | January 15, 2023 1:11 PM |
Whose face is that at R16?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | January 15, 2023 1:25 PM |
Looks like Clint Howard, R67.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | January 15, 2023 1:29 PM |
“My neck, my back, lick my…”
by Anonymous | reply 69 | January 15, 2023 1:39 PM |
Public Park of the Black Worm
- an intersectional re/work/theft of the Bram Stroker classic by American POC artist Hank Willis Thomas
by Anonymous | reply 70 | January 15, 2023 1:46 PM |
Jackie trashed MLK on the audio tapes of that 1964 interview with Arthur Schlesinger.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | January 15, 2023 2:07 PM |
Jackie was just mad that MLK wasn't slanging that good dick her way!
by Anonymous | reply 72 | January 15, 2023 2:16 PM |
R72 that doesn't mean Jackie's observations were false.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | January 15, 2023 2:24 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 74 | January 15, 2023 2:28 PM |
Well I hope you're happy. Scary Lucy sculptor is dead to me.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | January 15, 2023 2:35 PM |
I also hope they kept the original statue. If Miami ever wants a statue of native son Perez Hilton, they've got a head start.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | January 15, 2023 2:36 PM |
“getting they box eaten”
This place needs a bouncer.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | January 15, 2023 2:46 PM |
CBS Sunday Mirning featured the sculpture and the artist last Sunday. Everyone involved mutually appreciative but I didn’t see any white faces involved in the project.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | January 15, 2023 4:05 PM |
Coretta Scott King relative pens scathing editorial
by Anonymous | reply 81 | January 15, 2023 4:29 PM |
Seneca Scott nailed it. Bravo to him ! Incredible opinion piece which should go viral.
This sculpture is a joke, at best.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | January 15, 2023 4:46 PM |
R82 ‘Ten million dollars were wasted to create a masturbatory metal homage to my legendary family members—one of the all-time greatest American families.’
Sounds like she was masturbating thinking about nostalgic bullshit legacies when she wrote that, or maybe she was getting they box eaten.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | January 15, 2023 4:49 PM |
Seneca Scott also calls Coretta her "first cousin".
"You see, Coretta was my first cousin, my grandfather’s niece, and the daughter of my great uncle Obediah Scott."
Do black folks calculate this differently?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | January 15, 2023 5:01 PM |
R77 hahaha I knew that sculpture reminded me of someone! Thank you!
by Anonymous | reply 85 | January 15, 2023 5:03 PM |
R84 uhhh, yeah “that’s my cousin” can mean “daughter of my uncle’s ex-girlfriend’s sister’s boyfriend’s aunt’s 2nd cousin’s brother”
They’ll call people family all the time with zero blood relation.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | January 15, 2023 5:04 PM |
They's box gettin' eaten, y'all!
by Anonymous | reply 87 | January 15, 2023 5:05 PM |
Boxes gon be ate, cuz
by Anonymous | reply 88 | January 15, 2023 5:12 PM |
It's amazing how everyone disagrees which act is being operformed, and yet everyone agrees it's obscene. It's either a woman being eaten out, hands embracing a giant penis, or hands embracing a gigantic turd.
Who was responsible for overseeing this?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | January 15, 2023 5:18 PM |
This organization. Huge staff. Mostly people of color.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | January 15, 2023 5:21 PM |
I see a frenulum.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | January 15, 2023 5:22 PM |
From what I have found on line, Seneca is a male in his mid-40s who has run for politics in Maryland. How she can possibly be his first cousin (she would be in her 90s today) is beyond me.
As someone else said, in the black culture they do indeed play 'loose and fast' with familial ties.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | January 15, 2023 5:30 PM |
R89 The Danny Thomas Foundation.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | January 15, 2023 5:30 PM |
Is one hand Coretta's and the other MLK's? If it's both of them, who's eating what? I agree whatever they're holding looks like either a dick with Peyrone's disease OR a giant turd. What is it supposed to be?
by Anonymous | reply 94 | January 15, 2023 5:50 PM |
They are holding each others arms and shoulders. The heads and torsos have been cut off.
Several dozen people staff that foundation. They chose this. It makes NO SENSE. Was it a huge grift? Did the "artist" kick $$$$ back to the foundation?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | January 15, 2023 5:57 PM |
Both families Scott and King should pursue this insult. They should not shut up about it until the foundation is discredited and the work removed.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | January 15, 2023 5:58 PM |
It has nothing to do with “woke,” Seneca. Come on, now.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | January 15, 2023 6:00 PM |
Next up for Embrace Boston - a sculpture of Malcolm X waiting for Coretta's sloppy seconds.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | January 15, 2023 6:02 PM |
Who’s the artist?
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 15, 2023 6:06 PM |
r94/r96 etc: Seneca didn't make anything up, he was very clear about the relation to Coretta - she was his first cousin, once removed. She and his father were first cousins, she was the niece of his paternal grandfather. Coretta and MLK's children are his second cousins.
The genealogical illiteracy on this board never ceases to amaze me.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 15, 2023 6:27 PM |
pft, black men don't eat box (in general)
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 15, 2023 6:56 PM |
At least one of the hands is wearing a woman's bracelet, so I assume that's Coretta's.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 15, 2023 7:51 PM |
I like that in OP's pic, someone is trying to steal the bracelet.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 15, 2023 7:53 PM |
With the millions of dollars spent on that "sculpture" couldn't they afford to put heads on it?
by Anonymous | reply 104 | January 15, 2023 7:59 PM |
To be fair there's a lot of public art that's very ugly as somebody already said. I don't know why ugly appeals to so many people. That Lucy atrocity artist wanted another 10k to redo the sculpture saying some such nonsense of it not being representative of his art. A lot of grifters. This is a monument to turds.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 15, 2023 8:05 PM |
How the fuck could that have cost $10 million?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 15, 2023 8:19 PM |
Did you see all the salaries involved?? It's a massive grift, that's how.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | January 15, 2023 8:38 PM |
Martin Luther King shouldn’t be celebrated.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | January 15, 2023 9:21 PM |
This woman is the blind bonehead who approved this abomination.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | January 15, 2023 10:39 PM |
The Bad Art Friend meets BLM
by Anonymous | reply 110 | January 15, 2023 10:43 PM |
Munch dem black beef flaps!
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 15, 2023 10:47 PM |
This thing is repellant.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | January 15, 2023 10:49 PM |
OMG! Coretta Scott King loved to toss the salad too?!!
We're like total kindred spirits and kick ass game changers!
by Anonymous | reply 113 | January 15, 2023 10:54 PM |
[quote] The genealogical illiteracy on this board never ceases to amaze me.
Mary!
by Anonymous | reply 114 | January 15, 2023 10:55 PM |
Columbus went headless.
Now more headlessness in Boston.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | January 15, 2023 10:56 PM |
Blacks gonna grift.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | January 16, 2023 12:02 AM |
Ten Million Dollars could have paid for two BLM mansions.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | January 16, 2023 12:04 AM |
How much of the $10 mil did the sculptor get and how much went to the committee’s salaries. Someone investigate.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | January 16, 2023 12:06 AM |
My gorge rises at this monstrosity.
My bowels loosen as I watch it.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | January 16, 2023 12:19 AM |
Well, I like it . . .
by Anonymous | reply 120 | January 16, 2023 12:22 AM |
If this design was the 'best' that they picked, how bad were the others ?
Does anyone have an identity on the sculptor/ artist ?
by Anonymous | reply 121 | January 16, 2023 12:56 AM |
BTW- MLK III approved of this design, which is why they went with it.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | January 16, 2023 1:02 AM |
R122 This Boston Bowel-Loosener makes me do Da Poo Poo!
by Anonymous | reply 125 | January 16, 2023 1:04 AM |
It's very very unfortunate they were going for King Kong's turd.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | January 16, 2023 1:23 AM |
HWT designed a few other sculptures involving disembodied arms, and they are all creepy AF. That said, “The Embrace” actually looks OK at a few angles (at one point it looks like a Valentine’s heart), but walking around the entire thing must feel like a full-blown orgy.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | January 16, 2023 1:30 AM |
It looks like a turd from ALL angles.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | January 16, 2023 1:36 AM |
^🫣😵💫😱
by Anonymous | reply 130 | January 16, 2023 1:48 AM |
Bristol is most renowned across the globe because of its Bristol Scale, R129.
Boston will soon be most renowned across the globe for this Giant Bowel Excrescence.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | January 16, 2023 1:57 AM |
The sculpture is grotesque, but at least the artist is releasing his bile salts normally, which means his liver is in good health.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | January 16, 2023 3:44 AM |
Ten millions dollars for THIS? It's ghastly! "Scary Lucy" was a lot better than this thing.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | January 16, 2023 6:53 AM |
[quote] What the hell is it?
It is an abomination.
It is like a monstrous carbuncle on the face of a much-loved and elegant friend.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | January 16, 2023 7:57 AM |
That’s what friends are for… 🎶
by Anonymous | reply 135 | January 16, 2023 8:27 AM |
Lick my pussy and my crack.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | January 16, 2023 10:53 AM |
[quote] BTW- MLK III approved of this design, which is why they went with it.
He was probably just told the idea and/or shown a 3D rendering which looks nothing like the finished product.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | January 16, 2023 11:46 AM |
At least I hope.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | January 16, 2023 11:46 AM |
R81 I cannot see anything else than a huge schlong. How does it look like someone getting their box eaten? I cannot see how this makes sense. Please help me out.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | January 16, 2023 11:53 AM |
R139, From different angles, one can see alternate impressions.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | January 16, 2023 12:10 PM |
Does anyone have any directions to “Servicing Martin”?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | January 16, 2023 12:13 PM |
Would it have been too much to ask if they had included a frothy white fountain ⛲️ as the centerpiece?
by Anonymous | reply 143 | January 16, 2023 1:06 PM |
^Spewing love in every direction like an open fire hydrant
by Anonymous | reply 144 | January 16, 2023 1:21 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 145 | January 16, 2023 1:38 PM |
I subscribe to the Globe, and good god, the number of think pieces they've dedicated to defending this piece is something else.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | January 16, 2023 2:07 PM |
You WILL LIKE this.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | January 16, 2023 2:56 PM |
I wish I could see it from different angles, I can’t really make out what it looks like
by Anonymous | reply 148 | January 16, 2023 2:57 PM |
Urban blight.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | January 16, 2023 3:01 PM |
MLK III was on with La Lemon this morning and said he would have preferred if his parents’ faces were included.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | January 16, 2023 4:21 PM |
[quote]I cannot see anything else than a huge schlong. How does it look like someone getting their box eaten? I cannot see how this makes sense. Please help me out.
It’s the 3-dimensional equivalent of an inkblot test, R139.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | January 16, 2023 6:31 PM |
[quote]At least one of the hands is wearing a woman's bracelet, so I assume that's Coretta's.
Dont assume anything. MLK was non-binary and fought courageously for trans rights everywhere.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | January 16, 2023 6:42 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 153 | January 16, 2023 6:47 PM |
[quote]From different angles, one can see alternate impressions.
Oh, so it’s like those ‘90s 3D pictures?
by Anonymous | reply 154 | January 16, 2023 6:47 PM |
Dear Lord in heaven! It’s someone getting they box eaten!
by Anonymous | reply 155 | January 16, 2023 6:52 PM |
Can they take it down or would that be racist?
by Anonymous | reply 156 | January 16, 2023 6:54 PM |
What are some of the Globe's arguments in favor of this art work?
by Anonymous | reply 157 | January 16, 2023 7:00 PM |
r157 I will post some of the opinion pieces later (busy at the moment)
by Anonymous | reply 158 | January 16, 2023 7:04 PM |
thanks!
by Anonymous | reply 159 | January 16, 2023 7:06 PM |
R156 it's more racism to memorialise two black icons with such an awful statue, it's the insult
by Anonymous | reply 160 | January 16, 2023 7:13 PM |
what about the children? 👧🏼 👦🏼 🧒
by Anonymous | reply 161 | January 16, 2023 7:26 PM |
Stealth scat thread!!
by Anonymous | reply 162 | January 16, 2023 8:19 PM |
The View had their special MLK tribute today (pre-recorded last week) and nothing was mentioned about this atrocity. From what I read, this sculpture was unveiled a while ago.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | January 16, 2023 9:08 PM |
R164, Friday, January 13th.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | January 16, 2023 9:15 PM |
Can't they just add heads to it?
by Anonymous | reply 166 | January 16, 2023 9:37 PM |
No, R166.
Nothing can be done to remediate this mess.
This foolish women needs to sell it off CHEAP to the city of Detroit.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | January 16, 2023 9:42 PM |
omg, this fucking thing costs 10 million???? Refund!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 168 | January 16, 2023 9:53 PM |
The sculpture only looks ok from one angle which sort of defeats its purpose as a sculpture
by Anonymous | reply 169 | January 16, 2023 9:57 PM |
I think it only looks "questionable" from that rear view posted by OP (and only because of the amorphous lump that everyone is hating). Every other angle looks interesting to me.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | January 16, 2023 10:03 PM |
R170 Would you pay for it to be located to your back yard if you like it so much?
This steaming excrescence shouldn't be foisted on innocent city-dwellers going about their business.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | January 16, 2023 10:39 PM |
Will there be sound effects well hidden in the trees?
by Anonymous | reply 172 | January 16, 2023 10:42 PM |
Where’s the corn?
by Anonymous | reply 173 | January 16, 2023 11:07 PM |
For r157
"Is Boston ready to ‘Embrace’ a different story?"
At its heart, every monument is a story.
Can Boston tell a new story about itself?
That’s the big question raised by The Embrace: the imposing memorial to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and his wife, Coretta Scott King, unveiled Friday in a glitzy yet soulful ceremony on Boston Common.
Installed just steps from the start of the Freedom Trail, it now becomes a key component of the story Boston tells about itself.
Imari Paris Jeffries, that charismatic head of Embrace Boston, has spent a lot of time the past two years thinking about the stories that memorials tell.
For nearly 400 years, that story has been white, male, and Eurocentric. At long last, it has to make room for the rest of us.
“If a city was a memorial, Boston would be a memorial for America,” Paris Jeffries told me last week. “People come to Boston to get their American story reified. And if Boston can tell a different story about America, then America can start telling a different story about itself.”
The 22-foot bronze statue is stunning, impressive up close in a way photographs struggle to capture. (That’s partly due to the sheer mass of it.)
It is, of course, devoted to the origin story of the Kings. They met as students in Boston — he a Ph.D student at Boston University, she a student at the New England Conservatory of Music — before going on to change the world.
The monument was the brainchild of Paul English, the entrepreneur who was inspired by a memorial to Dr. King in San Francisco who thought Boston should have one of its own.
That was six years ago. And in the way these things happen, the mission would grow larger.
In a country that would be shaken by the murder of George Floyd, among others, and the quest for racial reckoning that would follow, The Embrace gradually became more than a statue.
There will eventually be an Embrace Center near Nubian Square that will connect King’s legacy with the ever-unfinished work of fighting for social change and racial and economic justice.
“I think in the conversations that I’m having, people are not talking about it as a statue anymore,” Paris Jeffries said. “People are contextualizing the Kings as the impetus of the memorial, but also why we need to have the memorial. I’m having more conversations around why we need to have the memorial and less about the memorial itself.”
The unveiling Friday was an event like nothing I’d ever been to in Boston. Just as Boston’s monuments are overwhelmingly white, so are most of its celebrations of itself. This was a radical departure from that, pointing the way to a different narrative.
From the MC duties of NBC10′s Latoyia Edwards to the stirring speeches by Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley and former governor Deval Patrick, the vibe of Boston celebration was unabashedly Black. Which, in itself, was a welcome change from a typical downtown celebration.
(cont'd)
by Anonymous | reply 174 | January 16, 2023 11:28 PM |
I was reminded that in the early days of this project, the very first controversy was where the monument should go. There was some sentiment for Roxbury, where King had preached in his student days. But English believed that placing a monument to racial justice in the center of the city would make a powerful statement. (Which is what I also thought, and wrote at the time.)
And now that it’s here, The Embrace feels like it is in exactly the right place.
There are a lot of statues in this town, and to think that one more can shake Boston’s self-image may be a lot to ask.
But part of our local reckoning with race is about coming to terms with a deep sense of segregation. Its impossible to come together without first being together. Friday’s unveiling was a testament to how that dream could become a reality.
In his only major Boston event, in 1965, Dr. King led a march from the Carter Playground in lower Roxbury to Boston Common, before speaking at the State House. It was a physical demonstration of how a bunch of distant Boston neighborhoods could be united — of how Boston could tell a different story of itself.
Decades later that challenge remains. If Boston is ready to embrace it.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | January 16, 2023 11:30 PM |
Also for r157:
"‘The Embrace’ is a tribute to love, justice, and the unsung"
Under a spotless blue sky one morning in early December, the artist Hank Willis Thomas teetered 40 feet up on a crane over Boston Common, gripped its rail tight, and looked down. Below him “The Embrace,” his 22-foot-tall bronze memorial to Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, shimmered in the morning sun, the arms of its entwined couple forming, from above, the shape of a heart.
Five years before, it had been just an idea, one with no guarantees. But after Thomas and his partner on the project, MASS Design Group, won the public competition to build the memorial in 2019, things got very real, very quickly. Now, countless sketches, renderings, computer models, and tabletop-sized 3-D printouts later, “The Embrace” was finally here, in the place it was meant to be.
Back on the ground, Thomas, visibly elated and uncharacteristically at a loss for words, shrugged, incredulous. “I mean, what can I say?” he mused, looking back at the piece over his shoulder, again and again, hardly trusting his eyes. “It’s here. I almost can’t believe it. But it really is.”
It was a last look for Thomas before the piece’s official unveiling on Friday, and he can be forgiven the disbelief. Just a few months ago, “The Embrace,” all 40,000 pounds of it, was in hundreds of pieces at the Walla Walla Foundry in central Washington State, one of few places on the planet capable of such a feat of fabrication. It arrived on a caravan of trucks to be assembled in November; now, with its seams ground smooth and its final patina a uniform shade of dusky bronze, it’s ready to speak for itself. With its spot on the Common just off Tremont Street, the bustle of downtown all around, the opportunity for conversation will be boundless.
It’s now a permanent feature of our urban landscape, an instant icon destined to be an enduring symbol of the city — our Statue of Liberty, as Karin Goodfellow, the city’s director of public art, once said to me. And what a symbol it is.
In a city infamous for its ugly history of racism, it’s profoundly hopeful, an emblem of racial tolerance, justice, and love — the Kings’ life’s work, in the place where they met as students, galvanizing their sense of purpose. But let’s also give the piece its due as a game-changing work of monumental public art more broadly.
For centuries, memorial monuments have hewed to a standard: a solitary figure, sometimes a group, upright and gazing stoically into the distance. In Boston, we tend to like ours on horseback: George Washington, down the way in the Public Garden, or Paul Revere at Old North Church. They epitomize a persistent myth: that a single person, usually a man, almost always white, can claim the mantle of greatness alone.
“The Embrace” rejects that convention explicitly: Surrounding the piece is a memorial plaza studded with the names of dozens of activists whose own devotion to the cause of racial justice never earned them comparable renown. Gathered here, they raise each other up and reaffirm that justice is the work of both the many and the unsung.
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by Anonymous | reply 176 | January 16, 2023 11:33 PM |
R60 seems a bit invested.
In something.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | January 16, 2023 11:34 PM |
Looks like Thing-Turd on Thing-Turd Action.
You know.
Art.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | January 16, 2023 11:35 PM |
The King story is not immune to hagiography: There are countless King tributes around the country very much in this vein. The King memorial in Washington, D.C., unveiled a little more than a decade ago in 2011, stands out among them with a creative sculptural strategy. King is pictured emerging from a towering block of granite, his partial encasement a material acknowledgment, perhaps, of work left unfinished. It’s not just an avatar but, conceptually, a piece of art. Even so, it steps barely outside convention: He stands resolute, arms crossed, a lone heroic figure with his eyes fixed on a far horizon.
“The Embrace” elides the myth-making trap with a visual grace tied to a moment: Its tangle of arms and hands is a three-dimensional imagining of a photograph of Martin and Coretta locked in celebration after his Nobel Peace Prize win in 1964. (Signage on site describes it; a QR code links to a website with the image itself). It’s a gesture of elation shadowed by the tragedy of the time, a ray of light amid the darkness of the often violent struggle for civil rights. Thomas’s extraction of their joyful embrace feels to me like an act of defiance — a statement, unequivocally, that love endures.
Its awkwardly ambiguous knot emanates warmth, endurance, exhaustion, and trauma all at once. We identify with a human gesture, with all its faults, before we identify them, specifically; it makes the piece relatable, inviting, universal, human. It doesn’t tell you what it is; it invites you to imagine what it could be, freighted with complexity and contradiction. There’s nothing more human than that.
That “The Embrace” exists as it does, exactly as Thomas and the MASS Design Group intended, is a minor miracle to be savored. Public art is almost always the product of withering compromise: In an effort to appease everyone, the end result often pleases no one.
The King memorial could have been on that path four years ago, as King Boston (now Embrace Boston), the nonprofit that willed it into being, had whittled down an open call for proposals for the project to five finalists. I remember looking them over in early 2019 and holding two very clear impressions in mind: I was convinced “The Embrace” was by far the most compelling proposal among them; and I was just as convinced, knowing what I did about art in public places, that its chances of winning would be next to zero.
The proposals were polished, professional, and, in keeping with public art convention, mostly anodyne, either choosing to memorialize the Kings with chilly architectural intervention (slabs of black granite embedded in the earth, proposed by Adjaye Associates) or preachy, lionizing tribute (Wodiczko + Bonder’s flashing towers and digital tickertape of human rights news).
Whatever form they took, the other proposals were far removed from anything human. When it comes to the Kings, isn’t humanity the point? Memorials, by their nature, honor the dead. “The Embrace” does that, surely, with a message for the living: that spirit, and purpose, and above all, love, lives on.
Soon enough, tricorne-hatted guides in Revolutionary War waistcoats will squire tourists to the memorial as they’re marched up and down the Freedom Trail. “The Embrace” is a new stop wisely added to the standard tour, a potent reminder that the Revolution of 1776 was only a starting point for the still-imperfect notion of American freedom.
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by Anonymous | reply 179 | January 16, 2023 11:35 PM |
But really, “The Embrace” is for Boston. We’ll come to it on the way to and from the movies or our lunch breaks; we’ll pass by it to ice skate at the Frog Pond, or shop on Newbury Street, or to chase grounders at the baseball field. As downtown workers stream by on foot, in cars, or on buses, its deep bronze hide will catch the glint of sunrise and sunset at every morning and evening commute. Every spring, it will be dusted with pollen as the Common’s urban forest shrugs off winter to bloom; every fall, it will be wreathed in autumn hues, fiery reds and golds and auburns, as those same trees prepare to surrender to the winter chill.
All of this will go on and on, long after anyone reading these words, on this day, is there to see it.
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by Anonymous | reply 180 | January 16, 2023 11:36 PM |
Thanks for posting them. Sheesh - few if any remarks about its shitty aesthetic. And the Director is very quick to dismiss the importance of the sculpture entirely because she has folie de grandeur and its all about the "Embrace Center" no doubt with her plush salary and executive suite. The entire affair is vomitous - but not surprising.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | January 17, 2023 12:03 AM |
I feel like meatloaf for dinner.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | January 17, 2023 12:05 AM |
“I think in the conversations that I’m having, people are not talking about it as a statue anymore,” Paris Jeffries said. “People are contextualizing the Kings as the impetus of the memorial, but also why we need to have the memorial. I’m having more conversations around why we need to have the memorial and less about the memorial itself.”
-Miss Imari Paris Jeffries, Director
by Anonymous | reply 185 | January 17, 2023 12:05 AM |
Could someone draw a picture outline of it and label each section? I really can’t see what it is.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | January 17, 2023 12:33 AM |
It is a hug worthy of Rodin.
Just low class fuckery.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | January 17, 2023 12:36 AM |
[quote] I cannot see anything else than a huge schlong. How does it look like someone getting their box eaten?
From some angles it looks like a head between somebody's backside or thighs. What a tribute to MLK and CSK!
by Anonymous | reply 188 | January 17, 2023 2:01 AM |
[quote]The sculpture only looks ok from one angle which sort of defeats its purpose as a sculpture
Nope. Still a turd.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | January 17, 2023 2:06 AM |
“Servicing Martin” is the people who are recognizing Dr King’s lifetime of service and moving Civil Rights a giant step forward. In this sculpture, we are paying him back!
by Anonymous | reply 190 | January 17, 2023 3:21 AM |
Nope, still a piece of art.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | January 17, 2023 4:26 AM |
[quote] Nope, still a piece of art.
That thing is a piece of shit not a piece of art.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | January 17, 2023 4:29 AM |
[quote] Imari Paris Jeffries, that charismatic head
A wanker living on public money for decade
by Anonymous | reply 193 | January 17, 2023 5:05 AM |
What people think is, and is not art, is an opinion.
Tasteful People on Data Lounge?
My sides, my sides.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | January 17, 2023 5:17 AM |
It would have been worse if the sculpture had included a bronze pack of menthols and a bronze bottle of malt liquor.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | January 17, 2023 5:19 AM |
What is a They Box?
by Anonymous | reply 197 | January 17, 2023 5:20 AM |
"I Was a Turd Fondler for Justice, Peace, and Righteousness"
by Anonymous | reply 198 | January 17, 2023 5:24 AM |
[quote] What people think is, and is not art, is an opinion.
R195 You must do a poll amongst your friends who aren't Dataloungers.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | January 17, 2023 5:31 AM |
I have a rather erudite group of friends. We all have different tastes in art.
The worst opinion I have heard is, it's not for me.
We are a Chicago based group so the Caulder, the Picasso, the Kapoor Bean, all have their detractors, but many enjoy them daily, as will with this sculpture.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | January 17, 2023 5:54 AM |
[quote] the Kapoor Bean
Wiki says it was initially disliked, but later grew fond of.
More simplistic gigantism as far as I'm concerned.
by Anonymous | reply 201 | January 17, 2023 6:59 AM |
Of course a frau made this tacky piece of shit.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | January 17, 2023 7:32 AM |
“I love it when you give me that social justice…” 😩
by Anonymous | reply 203 | January 17, 2023 7:45 AM |
R202 the artist is a man.
by Anonymous | reply 204 | January 17, 2023 9:07 AM |
The mess was approved for payment by the mayor — a woman.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | January 17, 2023 9:23 AM |
That would have been the way to word your statement the first time.
by Anonymous | reply 206 | January 17, 2023 9:37 AM |
Did Rodney St. Cloud model for this sculpture?
by Anonymous | reply 207 | January 17, 2023 11:59 AM |
R207, Austin Wilde was unavailable.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | January 17, 2023 12:14 PM |
[quote] I’ll always remember how kind he was to that little boy who was realizing he was gay.
John-John?
by Anonymous | reply 209 | January 17, 2023 12:37 PM |
R201 - Of course the park goers grew fond of it. The reflective surface let them know they were about to be mugged.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | January 17, 2023 12:39 PM |
[quote] “I think in the conversations that I’m having, people are not talking about it as a statue anymore,” Paris Jeffries said. “People are contextualizing the Kings as the impetus of the memorial, but also why we need to have the memorial. I’m having more conversations around why we need to have the memorial and less about the memorial itself.”
So in other words, a $10 plaster statue of Zulu would have sufficed. $15 million could have done a LOT more helping poor black neighborhoods than erecting this embarrassment, and would have lead to a far more important conversation. This guy is a huckster, and a transparent one at that.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | January 17, 2023 12:44 PM |
Hank was on CNN this morning with Don Lemon, Poppy and the other host - all who gushed over it. They did play comments by Seneca Scott and Megyn Kelly - both who said it looked like a giant penis being held up.
Hank did his best in 'rehearsed statements' to defend this piece of crap, said that he is not making changes to it, it's a piece of art and pubic art always brings controversy (or something along those lines). Lemon contributed by telling him 'as long as people are talking about it' - all that matters with public art.
by Anonymous | reply 212 | January 17, 2023 2:03 PM |
This sculpture is like a scene in The Magic Christian !
by Anonymous | reply 213 | January 17, 2023 2:17 PM |
R212, “pubic art”?
by Anonymous | reply 214 | January 17, 2023 2:21 PM |
The "Bean" is just a spectacle.
Okay, there may be some meaning to its reflective surface, reflecting society as it is - a bunch of deeply unintelligent people with unexamined lives, wallowing in the narcissism of their own images.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | January 17, 2023 2:58 PM |
It's apparently based on this photo, which helps me understand how the artist arrived at this abomination, but also passes me off even more. Translating a small part of a photo exactly without consideration for the medium you are working with, the statue's dimensionality, or the overall effect is so lazy and creatively bereft.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | January 17, 2023 3:19 PM |
Without faces it’s empty
by Anonymous | reply 217 | January 17, 2023 3:23 PM |
[quote]and would have lead to a far more important conversation.
Like the difference between lead and led?
by Anonymous | reply 218 | January 17, 2023 4:13 PM |
[quote]It’s apparently based on this photo
I don’t understand. There’s no one in the photo getting they box eaten. Is the artist imagining that it happened afterward?
by Anonymous | reply 219 | January 17, 2023 4:14 PM |
That really is hysterical. It really does look sexual... That crazy Dr. King.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | January 17, 2023 4:41 PM |
they boksheetin
by Anonymous | reply 221 | January 17, 2023 4:42 PM |
That sweet photo of King and his wife hugging was the inspiration for a huge piece of bronze that looks like a giant dingus being fondled? That is just totally crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | January 18, 2023 1:56 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 223 | January 18, 2023 2:08 AM |
Nom nom nom nom
by Anonymous | reply 224 | January 18, 2023 5:42 PM |
The artist's search for inspiration to honor MLK through his coprophilia brings this constant need of all humans to unite the city of Boston in an exploration and examination of human expression and creativity.
by Anonymous | reply 225 | January 18, 2023 10:04 PM |
You Phyllis Steins! Sometimes when you touch the honesty's too much.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | January 18, 2023 10:12 PM |
This town needs an enema.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | January 18, 2023 11:29 PM |
Elaine, the city’s a toilet. Ya gotta move to Long Guyland and have a BABY!
by Anonymous | reply 228 | January 18, 2023 11:45 PM |
R218 is very adept at entirely missing the point.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | January 19, 2023 1:42 AM |
It’s like when you take a photo of two arms pressed together, and then crop it so that the arms look like a butt.
by Anonymous | reply 230 | January 19, 2023 1:46 AM |
As a kid I used to press my calf muscles together to simulate a butt crack/cleavage/vulva.
by Anonymous | reply 231 | January 19, 2023 3:54 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 232 | January 19, 2023 11:23 AM |
[quote] It’s like when you take a photo of two arms pressed together, and then crop it so that the arms look like a butt.
It sounds like you have what it takes to be artist in today’s art world.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | January 19, 2023 3:21 PM |
Fish gotta swim. Birds gotta fly. I gotta eat one box Til' I die. Can't help Eatin' dat box of mine.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | January 19, 2023 5:04 PM |
They should put it in front of that ugly-ass city hall.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | January 19, 2023 5:17 PM |
15 m could have put a number of black kids through state college with no loans and with stipends so they could concentrate on studies rather than working.
by Anonymous | reply 236 | January 19, 2023 5:47 PM |
Imagine how many people could get they boxes eaten for $15 million.
by Anonymous | reply 237 | January 19, 2023 6:12 PM |
Box lunches for everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 238 | January 19, 2023 6:13 PM |
r235 that building is such an eyesore.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | January 19, 2023 6:59 PM |
Tell us you look at too much porn without saying “I look at too much porn”
by Anonymous | reply 240 | January 19, 2023 7:03 PM |
You don't have to look at porn to know that the sculpture looks like two hands jerking off a giant dick. They should've done it as a fountain.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | January 19, 2023 7:10 PM |
[quote]looking like someone getting they box eaten
She's coming at last
She's coming at last
Thank God Almighty she's coming at last
by Anonymous | reply 242 | January 19, 2023 8:17 PM |
I Had a Dong
by Anonymous | reply 243 | January 19, 2023 10:18 PM |
[quote] that ugly-ass city hall.
In which that foolish woman lives
by Anonymous | reply 244 | January 19, 2023 10:29 PM |
[quote] that the sculpture looks like two hands jerking off a giant dick. They should've done it as a fountain.
Then it would look like the giant dick is cumming!
by Anonymous | reply 245 | January 19, 2023 10:37 PM |
R242 wins the thread
by Anonymous | reply 247 | January 20, 2023 12:18 PM |
^ The enormous excremental log looks as though it's crumbling already.
Is it as smelly as it looks?
by Anonymous | reply 249 | January 20, 2023 11:05 PM |
Boston is still learning to live with this Boston University architectural abomination.
by Anonymous | reply 250 | January 22, 2023 5:33 AM |
“Jengatecture” such as that at r250 is hideous.
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