‘The Real Friends Of WeHo’: Starring Brad Goreski & Todrick Hall premieres 1/20

Wasn't an unwatched version of this with lesser knowns on last year?

[quote]The Real Friends Of WeHo

What does that even mean? It sounds like babytalk, something Trump the lazy buffoon would utter.

R1 Men of West Hollywood was a different show.

I am so excited to see this!!!!!!!

Says no one.

They ALL look so straight

This is why I hate them.

[quote]and successful LGBTQ+ celebrities[/quote]

Why don’t they just say “gay”?

Todrick Hall has friends?

Something that nobody asked for or cares about

Brad Goreski makes even me feel homophobic.

Oh, please.

If he does have friends I am pretty sure Brad Goreski is not one of them, R8.

The Real Friends Of WeHo: Thirsty Bitches

If Todrick Hall acts as he did in Big Brother, he will lose more fans.

I’m here for trash TV… but I absolutely will not watch anything with Todrick Hall.

Chris Salvatore claims he was fired from the show after a week of filming because cast members refused to work with him when they discovered he had an OF.

Can’t link to it but it’s on his Twitter

I shall not be watching.

But let me know if Brad makes a fool of himself.

I loved IT'S A BRAD BRAD WORLD but that was mostly because of hubby Gary.

Chris Salvatore is very performative. I know he’s an actor but your real life shouldn’t feel like you’re acting.

I found Chris Salvatore adorable in his first Eating Out movie. His character became insufferable in the sequel.

Frankly, the show and other cast members actually made a huge mistake in cutting him out because of OF. That's the type of drama people want in a reality show. We WANT to hear the other bitches gossip behind his back and smile to his face.

To be fair none of these gays have an OF and clearly they didn’t want that stereotype of a gay man in sex work on their show. They make it a point to all be career oriented. Not that sex work can’t be a career, just not the type most would find respectable.

Chris Salvatore and Karamo were such a weird couple. I couldn’t see their personalities meshing.

[quote]To be fair none of these gays have an OF and clearly they didn’t want that stereotype of a gay man in sex work on their show.

So, they weren't interested in "reality" for their reality show?

They were interested in their reality. Not the reality of so many gay men doing sex work for easy cash.

Prostitution is not a real job. It's a lazy way out. It would be an insult to have a hooker on the show if everyone in the group is supposed to be a professional.

R25 Interesting you chose the word prostitute, because I saw a video recently of someone calling out OF workers and all the people who get upset when they are labeled as such, because that is what it is. Being on OnlyFans is you selling your body for money. It’s prostitution. But they don’t like being called that.

Chris probably would have been the most authentic person out of that group.

[quote] clearly they didn’t want that stereotype of a gay man in sex work on their show.

Jaymes Vaughan was a male stripper!

As if Brad Goreski got anywhere because he's talented

Salvatore doesn't do porn.

Just nude posing.

Not even an erection much less penetration/cum shots.

R28 he worked for Chippendales. They don’t do full nudity where they have their dicks out. He spoke about this. He also never wore anything less than a speedo.

Performing for Chippendales isn’t the same as jerking off and sucking dick on the internet for money. Let’s not act like they’re the same.

They are all "pussy boy bottom bitches"

They cannot be in the same room with other bottoms. Who are these producers kidding?

Bottoms can't stand each other like that!!

[quote]If Todrick Hall acts as he did in Big Brother, he will lose more fans.

This is his redemption from that fiasco.

"Sex work is work"

[quote]Performing for Chippendales isn’t the same as jerking off and sucking dick on the internet for money.

That's the thing, though.

Salvatore is NOT doing those things on his OF.

Sex Work = Digital Prostitution = Onlyfans = hooker = slut = hoe

All these Gen Whatevers try to make their bullshit into something it’s not, call it “scat” all you want honey you still eating doodoo…

[quote]"Sex work is work"

"A handjob is still a job!"

They’re going to be the worst stereotypes of gay men. Unfortunately most masc gays with any dignity would never sign up for a show like this, so we’ll never get well-rounded representation.

What??? R39 I am masc!

I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.

On episode 1 they will surprise the cast with an additional New Real Friend:

Which one?

1) Frankie Grande

2) Sam Smith

3) George Santos

They should have included at least a dyke or one faghag. Americans do not like to watch a bunch of gay men being the main character(s), unless they’re in drag or playing assistant.

Straight Eye works because they’re basically worshipping straight people. Will & Grace worked because they were sidekicks.

Is Brad Goreski’s dong as attractive, as sizable, as circumcised as Chris Salvatore’s? That’s the big dramatic question for me.

R43 the main cast are gay men. The hags will be friends of…

R45 and it will fail.

TV Show Ratings Poison: Toddrick Hall

Todrick has A LOT of skeletons in his closet. People HATE him.

Bob, Eureka & Shangela said no to Salvatore's sexy ass.

Salvatore showing off his ASSets.

[quote] They’re going to be the worst stereotypes of gay men. Unfortunately most masc gays with any dignity would never sign up for a show like this, so we’ll never get well-rounded representation.

Gay men are very uncomfortable with mainstream depictions of gay men. This is a show for str8s.

Never heard of him before, but Joey Zauzig looks quite handsome.

R49 most drag queens are mentally ill, it’s a fact, and they love nothing more than to persecute other gay men.

Shangela, J’Accused?

Pass.

Oh no. Oh hell no.

Y’all will watch. Stop.

MTV? Will no one think of the children?

R43. The A List NY (remember that trainwreck) added a woman to the main cast and it killed the show. She was terrible.

[quote]Wasn't an unwatched version of this with lesser knowns on last year?

It must have been a challenge to find people who were less known than these people.

Nope.

No R57. Todrick in anything is an absolute hard no. There will be no audience for this. Canceled after first season.

Some minimally talented, largely unknown attention whores. This sounds like it has the potential to be a very long series of eyerolls. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[quote] Y’all will watch. Stop.

No, these hoes are not playing. They don't want to see gay men in anything except porn. They have tanked every gay themed reality show. Remember "Coming Out Colton"? Me, neither.

And yet they did, R60 .

"Dorión Renaud" née Dorion Standberry. Youth shrouded in mystery.

They are all shady shady gays.

Great. This will set back LGBT people a decade and give the haters lots of fodder to vilify us with.

It’s creeping on us soon.

Wonder if Jonathan Bennett will make a cameo

Why couldn't these queens have been on that Nepal flight

r66 well Dorian has been around forever. He was on College Hill, a 2004 reality show about college students at historically black colleges. That predates most of anything these other guys were doing

I'll definitely watch to see how he's evolved over the last 20 years, he's a pretty cool guy

His nudes leaked online many years ago too 😛

Ok he just got more interesting.

Curtis Hamilton is fine as hell.

He was terrifying as Dr. Dre in "Surviving Compton"

Well he certainly won’t be cast in the future now.

I think not being a good actor would also help R74

They are already getting on my nerves with this Onlyfans foolishness... I know they are all hoes when not pulled up for MTV cameras, why judge someone else 🤷🏽‍♂️

Nah. OF cheapens what they’re going for.

r77 well if it's an "honest look" about gays in WeHo it surely would include someone who sells their body online.

It’s about career oriented gays r78. Not about gay stereotypes who sell their bodies for easy cash.

They’re all whores. What’s the point?

I have no idea who R71 is but he's now my favorite.

R67, you think homophobes will watch a show about gay guys in WeHo? Well, maybe the repressed, closeted ones will...

I'll watch this, but only so I can do research on the sinful gay lifestyle

I'm watching the premiere episode right now. Nice to see Brad and Gary. The rest are trash and not as important as they think they are.

I have SO BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS!!! It will give me and my friends an in-depth look at famous Los Angeles homosexuals! I rabidly follow Andy Cohen and Jeff Lewis already. We will really be on the inside track now.

I’m sure they’re great fun at cocktail parties, but my precious crunch-surfing time will not be wasted on this.

Why is Todrick hated? I vaguely remember something about him not paying his bills.

• Alleged scammer who doesn't pay his rent, vendors, or performers and exaggerates his wealth

• Played a vicious, sociopathic game on Celebrity Big Brother

• Alleged sex pest

It's not alleged. Many people have called out Todrick Hall on how he hires people for services, but never actually follows through on paying them. Manila Luzon called him out how she never got paid for a event she did for him.

And yeah, it's public record how he got sued for not paying rent. On this house that he tried to pretend he owned! Because he is that much of a petty person he needed people to think he bought it rather than renting it. It's so pathetic.

Can someone recap the episode instead of rehashing gossip about TH? He had numerous threads on him and those incidents already

Should this be called The Exhausting Try-Hards?

That would involve someone watching it r90.

"Can someone recap the episode instead of rehashing gossip about TH?"

Some nobody was getting engaged to another nobody, and they were throwing themselves an engagement party to which a lot of other nobodies were being invited.

That's all I got. I was more engaged with the solitaire game I was playing on my phone.

Joey is exhausting. Then there's some douche who keeps telling everyone he's an entrepreneur and travels with a bodyguard. Todrick is on some kind of a redemption tour. Brad at least has a career and a successful long term relationship/marriage to someone else who has a real career and they both seem out of place with these losers.

r94 = Brad

[bold]'The Real Friends of WeHo' Is a Colossal, Gay Nightmare[/bold]

[quote]MTV wants to use [italic]Drag Race[/italic] as a flagship franchise to launch a new property, and the six stars of [italic]The Real Friends of WeHo[/italic] see it as a paycheck and branding opportunity, rather than a job. That means that no one is actually considering what audiences ultimately want to see, because it sure as hell is not this.

Pretty boring

I just watched...bland for the most part.

Brad is the eldergay of the group. Agree with r94 about Joey, he's the trainwreck and Todd is on a damage control tour. Dorion had a bad attitude on College Hill and he still has it. Jonathan Bennett's husband is forgettable. Curtis is really the only compelling one to watch because he's just coming out as gay and dealing with it in real time.

The reviewer at r96 calls them arrogant self-branding machines, but what alterative is there? A-list gays (the handful of them) will never do reality TV, and if they did the gays would say they are desperate. And apparently Onlyfans whores are an underclass that we bust nuts too but don't want to see on TV. So here we are.

Speaking of A list gays, why was I never asked to be on this show?

Brad makes it clear he wasn’t one of the 3 cast members who refused to film with Chris Salvatore

R98. I actually forgot about Jonathan Bennett's husband who was at least honest enough to admit that they really wanted to cast Jonathan but he turned them down. Smart guy.

Why do they have to be celebrities r98?

I think a cast of a real gay social group that lives in WeHo and watching their antics would be more fun. Celebrities are going to be more hyper aware of the camera and their image. A Real World style show would be messier and more fun.

r102 those type of shows really only exist online now, ie Bad Boys Club on Zeus. The gays on these online shows are messy and violent as fuck, as they have no "brands" and images to uphold. MTV has a brand to uphold now as well, they can't have anything too crazy following RuPauls now multi-Emmy award winning show.

[italic]Bad Boys Los Angeles,[/italic] for those who didn't see it, came out about a year ago and was produced by [italic]Bad Girls Club[/italic] alum Miss Natalie Nunn. The cast includes Andrew Caldwell, who went viral for being "delivert" from wanting mens. It is, in a word, ELEGANT.

Well, r104, Bad Boys is a Bad Girls spinoff. Those shows cast people who are violent and crazy. Most other shows don’t do that.

Bad Boys is aired on Zeus because no regular network will air that shit in 2023.

Poor, victimized Todrick feels all the feelings in a nine-page handwritten statement after the show's premiere

Only fans whores is a better concept for a reality show. The ones on the way up, and the ones on the way down, and the never will be anythings.

r106 he has great handwriting if he wrote that

Official show Twitter deletes post bragging about 20,000 viewers

[quote] Can’t link to it but it’s on his Twitter

Of course you can link to it, dummy.

[quote] Official show Twitter deletes post bragging about 20,000 viewers

Why?

r108, that is the handwriting of a 17 year old girl. It is very controlled (no perceptible slant in letters and sentence line) , so he's being very careful of what he's writing about

R111 Because they have nowhere near that amount

[quote]Brad at least has a career and a successful long term relationship/marriage to someone else who has a real career and they both seem out of place with these losers.

I think part of the problem is that they cast this show around Brad, who is in his mid 40s. Its hard to imagine him associating with most of these guys. If this show was on Bravo and the rest of the cast was older it may have worked better.

Brad is exhausting.

I have no idea who any of these people are. Why would I care?

Jaymes is 39, Todrick is 37. I forgot who else is in this. The cast isn't much younger than Brad r114.

R114 their twink years are but a dim memory, hunty.

R115 = Rachel Zoe.

Expiration Date approaches for all of them. Todrick's shtick makes since for a guy 25-35 tops.

The show hinges on whether we aspire to be these guys. I can’t imagine anyone who does. It reeks of Life Plan B.

R121 I only WISH I'd used Plan B. Sorry to unleash this creature on the world.

r120 makes SENSE.

r121, I dont think that the intent. Do women who watch Real Housewives aspire to be like them? I doubt it. RH is trashy fun.

The real ratings are out. While Drag Race came in at number 6 for the night this shit lost all of that audience and debuted at 69.

People didn't even want to hate watch this.

According to those numbers, only 186,000 people watched WeHo. I can’t imagine any national advertiser being happy about that. That’s about 1 in 2,000 Americans.

I hated the first episode so much I'm not planning on watching another episode.

Who is the idiot who programs MTV.

He needs to lose his job, STAT.

Did Billy Eichner co-write Hall's ridiculous rant?

Could Deatbeat Todrick shut the fuck up?

Todrick is alright with me. Its not like he ran for office like George Santos.

They need to stop trying to make this format happen. Now, hand me a dating/reality/paradise hookup competition show with all gay men and that I’ll watch.

George Santos pays his rent and his employees.

It was neither good nor bad. I enjoy Brad Goreski. If he hadn't been in it, I probably wouldn't have watched more than 20 minutes.

R134 = I love Brad. I would have watched it for him but Todrick? No fucking way am I watching.

Brad is the definition of extra, and not in a remotely good way.

Brad's creepy canned laugh was disturbing.

It was an exhausting watch, even though it was as dull as ditchwater. We're the individuals interesting, likeable, or aspirational? Nope. Not in my book.

Honestly, I struggled watching it all. Todrick bleating on about the negative comments surrounding him was exhausting to watch. He's been banged to rights for his various short comings, he should suck it it and move on, but no we have this exhausting 9 page look at me diatribe.

I got to the end not wanting to know anymore about any of the dull individuals. I do think the idea of a less celebrity approach to the show would go well. Surely, there must be some interesting and not totally fucked up gay men in the gay nirvana that is West Hollywood!

If it is based on the female versions of Real Whatevers, then this cast of D and Q list "celebs" is appropriate. I rarely like the Real series though I found the Dubai one very illuminating, and with a lot of eye candy from Emirates glamour.

I found it riveting! All those A list gays lead fantastic lives! I'm so jealous!

Brad Goreski is a shrieking queen who's desperate need to be the center of attention is exhausting.

Can't wait for tonight's new episode!

Reality TV has devolved since the Real World popularized the genre.

Everyone is hustling and positioning themselves at every moment, looking to fuel conflict, thereby pushing and clawing their way into the spotlight for the benefit of their “brand.”

If you can enjoy it for the staged/heightened conflict, go forth. Or turn it off. It’s kind of good for the soul.

Todrick is wearing a caftan and at least one earring in OP's photo.

Sucked in cheeks, plucked eyebrows.

Todrick looks like the guy who is always wearing 2 pairs of spanx.

[quote]Todrick Hall

No.

This week's episode felt less awkward, but still bland.

Dorion and Joey both are self-branding douchebags! Dorion must've said CEO about 100 times in this episode.

Curtis is hot as hell and really the only interesting part of the show. Its hard to watch him struggle with the realization that he can no longer can't satisfy everyone in family and have his own life.

No wonder Todrick's home has been burglarized. He has the whole gayborhood up in there, using it for a dance studio, fashion studio and everything else.

This show was originally supposed to be "The A-List: Los Angeles", a reboot of "A-List New York". Dorion says it ended up being rebranded and put on MTV, instead of Paramount+, like it was originally intended. He also says the cast were largely unfamiliar with each other, and of course, some of them don't live anywhere near WeHo.

Explains a lot of why the show seems disjointed and out of place, it has been totally regurgitated by executives who likely thought gay people would watch it anyway.

I was totally bored by the second episode. I won't be watching again.

I only enjoy watching Curtis. Brad is funny…but he’s messy. James is fine but only in small doses and he’s best with Jonathan. The rest are ick

James came off way better in the episode, he actually seems like a nice person and I like that he still has an accent

Curtis was country as hell too, here he is during his football days way before he became an actor

I'm guessing everyone has checked out of this😆

James and Jonathan are cute together. I love Curtis and Brad's friendship, Brad is doing a great job of supporting Curtis taking baby steps as he comes out. Curtis is also smoking hot. Other than that, this show is DEAD!

I've shared thus before, but I've met Brad when I worked in Vegas. He's nothing like the character he plays on TV. (I also met Meghan McCain around the same time; both were quiet, verging on shy.) I'm 5'6" and there's no way Brad is taller than 5'8". His clothes are impeccably tailored, which makes him look taller on TV. Gary us also quiet and laid back. I know Brad's been completely sober for about x20 years. Not sure if Gary drinks.

You can take the boy out of Canada but you can't take Canada out of the boy. There's a limit to Brad's bitchiness-he will always be the voice of reason, he can't help it. His husband, on the other hand....

Dorion is so tough to watch. He's so uncomfortable in his own skin while declaring how comfortable he is in his skin. Sheesh. He could make a lot of psychotherapists very rich (which I guess a lot of us could but a lot of us aren't putting our baggage on display for a national TV audience of hate-watching gays).

Curtis's "in-and-out" storyline belongs in the 1970s. Jaymes is a non-starter and that other person screaming about how NO ONE IS CATERING TO HIS NEEDS needs a nap.

I second what R154 said. I've met Brad before (and frequently see him and Gary running errands together in LA). They are both very quiet and reserved in real life. And both are about 5'8". I have a hole where my heart should be, but even I think they seem very sweet together.

Am I the only one who thinks that Joey Z is exhausting? I didn't know who he was so looked at his Instagram. His whole hype man mantra posts are A LOT. "And that's on periodt, bestie!"

Let's just say he's lucky he's cute because the lights are on but nobody's home.

r155 Curtis grew up in an ultra-conservative black family in the midwest and now he's about as far from that as you can get, plus it's on TV. The poor guy needs time to adjust. He will eventually come to the realization that he can't live his own life if he's worried about what his family thinks, but I think that's more a front: he's really worried about black Hollywood never casting him again for leading roles if he queens out on this show.

What does Chris Salvatore do on his only fans?

asking for a friend

I’m told he doesn’t do hardcore. Just soft core and nudes.

I stopped watching but I love reading the comments here.

I'm indifferent to Brad, but I wonder what he thinks about the shitshow that the E! red carpet coverage has become? It should be another trainwreck today for the Grammy's.

Yeah don't waste your money checking out Salvatore's onlyfans. Pictures of his dick are freely available on Google and he doesn't offer anything more than that to the suckers who pay for his Onlyfans.

love Curtis. So gorgeous, great body and seems like a nice, humble guy. I hope he can at some point live his own life and not try to protect his small town family.

Brad is comic relief and entertaining.

Todrick is actually doing a good job at image rehab but it won't work since no one is watching the show (ratings in the toilet).. He's coming across quite well

James is OK but he's been annoying the last 2 episodes

Dorion and Joey are both fucking INSUFFERABLE. Both deeply insecure but express it in different ways. No Dorion, no one knows who the fuck you are. You can have a successful skincare line and celeb friends but that makes you fame-adjacent, not famous. The idea that he acts like he's too good for the show is pure projection. He wants to be seen as a bigtime star but it'll never happen. Cutting down other people does not elevate you

Joey on the other hand wears his insecurities on his sleeve and cannot handle the slightest bit of criticism. You can't even talk to someone like that without walking on eggshells.

this show really isn't that bad at all. Not sure why it's getting so much. There are plenty of other reality tv people and celebrities who have been quite problematic but gays still support them yet are quick to turn on other gays

The ratings for this shitfest suck. They lose about 80% of their lead in from RuPaul’s Drag Race. This is a one and done. Ha ha ha asshole Todrick. No one watches you. Dickwad.

r166 because it's another manufactured reality show in which we're supposed to pretend these people actually were "real" friends or that we should care abotu them beyond isn't that guy from blank, blank, blank. One would have hoped the former reality tv denizens would have moved on with their lives than returning to the mcdonalds of fame attempts.

Brad and Gary always have the hottest houseguests on their IG stories.

r168 in short, it's no different from 1000 other reality shows with a C-list ensemble cast, you just hate this one more because the cast is gay. NEXT.

r170 yes and no. No issue that it's "gay" -- given how diverse WeHo is now, I didn't assume they were all gay. Not that any self respecting homo would have saw living in WeHo as the ideal, regardless of how often they visited the clubs or gained weight at The Abbey pretending they just came in from the gym.

But yes, it's a tired concept... especially with the desperate need for scripting and celebutards.. if they ditched the scripting and the celebs, went back to the original voyeurism of mismatched strangers.. that would probably revive the concept.

Frankly, they could have even just faked it with some professional extras that didn't blur together so much as this cast does.

We've already seen the success through other social media endeavors using the ancient elders... really, try another attempt (I know there have been a few but poorly thought out) of silverfoxes in Palm Springs or elderdykes of Santa Fe just keeping in line with the same stereotypes. Next they could take up old Jews of Miami. Retired Ganstahs of Compton, Mormons of Utah, and so on.

One would think they would be able to read the social current... even as a hatefest, people aren't as interested in celebs. So, redo a potential feel good, rags to riches story with the plebs... from the lowest dregs of society but ideally, the least dysfunctional. Many are over the "Springer" examples as well.

Do you remember (assuming you're old enough) the original "Starting Over" house before it became like all the others. Oh, how the lesbians loved the dykey tomboy they suspected would inevitably come out.

or perhaps SiTv's reality show of taking kids from middle-upper suburbia to live in ghetto.

[quote]Not that any self respecting homo would have saw living in WeHo as the ideal, regardless of how often they visited the clubs or gained weight at The Abbey pretending they just came in from the gym.

r171, cast member Dorion said link at posted in r149 the whole WeHo and "Real Housewives" branding components were later added by MTV after the show was already shot. The show had nothing to do with WeHo until dim executives/producers thought it would be a brilliant idea pretend the show was set it WeHo, thinking it would be a sure fire approach for gays to watch. The cast had nothing to do with it.

r172 the cast, the producers, the bloody show... what does it matter? Not that interested it in it, little intern. Just here to grumble, fuss and add my unnecessary two cents.

Dorion wants to talk about fake? He was so fake this episode, being cordial to the guys but continuing to bash Joey in his confessionals

Joey and Dorion are 2 of the most obnoxious gays I've seen on tv

Curtis is hot. The only guy I would give with on this show

I wanted so badly for Dorion to have grown into being a nicer person, but he's a mean gay just like he was on College Hill. Its not a good look. I also can't believe he's only 35, Curtis is 37 and looks younger than him.

he was an ass on Hollywood Divas too

look at him arguing with all these women

the context is they were pissed at him (rightfully so) for saying on camera that his friend (who was by far the least well-known in the cast) was tarnishing her reputation being around them. Keep in mind Dorion and his friend were Kardashian hangers-on types.

So Dorion has always put on this spectacle of him and whoever he likes as being above everyone else. It's projecting his insecurities. He wants people to see him as this big boss baller.

I can’t believe there’s more than two people on earth who would even watch this shit.

r175 you better get in line lol. Those abs and chest were the star of this episode 🏆💪🏾

Curtis thinks he’s All That but he’s just another Butterface with Baggage. Zzzz

Give me a dumpy, femme guy who’s comfortable being gay over Curtis any day.

[r180] HI Brad! Welcome to DL!

Don’t read the thread though as the queens ok here HATE your show!

The ratings for this show suck. Bye bye fags.

R180 butterface where? You must be blind

Curtis is fucking gorgeous

plus he's a humble hottie. He doesn't go around declaring how hot he is or expecting people to stare at him. It just happens. He's very down to earth. His story is also relatable. Many guys come out in their late 20s and throughout their 30s. Not everyone is comfortable as a teen

Curtis is the only one I like or would want to meet

I’m Only attracted to Curtis. He’s hot and mainstream

Curtis is gorgeous. His brother is fucking hot, and clearly a good guy. The sister - fuck her.

Curtis is my type. Hot

Yeah, Curtis needs to leave that sister alone.

Dorion, good lord. That stick is so far up his ass. I'm glad he enjoys loving himself so much, because nobody wants to deal with his combative self. In another few years he will solidly be in daddy territory; I can see him paying twinks for their company and sending them on their way after they've violated his weird rules.

Dorion is 1 of the most miserable people ever on a reality show. I don't think he's just playing a villain either.

Even Curtis' 2 cousins at the party were good looking. The whole family must be wow. Shame about his sister.

LOVED the meeting of Joey and Brian's parents. Too bad Joey is so annoying

drama next episode with James still whining about Palm Springs and Dorion filling Curtis' head with poisonous thoughts

Joey's vocal fry is unbearable.

Dorion might be the worst reality show person in recent memory. He's just mean. Full of himself. Judgmental. And not in a fun, campy, intelligent way. He's just an unlikable wet blanket.

Why in the world did he do this show? He hates every minute of it. And he's doing a terrible job as a brand ambassador. Who in the hell would want to buy his clothes after he acts like such a jerk?

Joey is he most irritating of the bunch, but at least I know why he's on the show.

Now, this is crazy

Yawn

wrong video

I just fast forward to the parts with Curtis.

[quote]And he's doing a terrible job as a brand ambassador. Who in the hell would want to buy his clothes after he acts like such a jerk?

lol r191 Dorion IS doing a terrible job as brand ambassador; the gag is that he sells skincare, not clothes! 🙃😁

Joey is annoying. And Curtis’ sister - she’s a cunt.

Random appearance by RHOSLC’s Meredith Marks and her husband Seth.

Wonder if Joey tapped their twink son Brooks.

Haha R196!!

I actually knew I probably got it wrong, but I didn't care enough to look it up.

6 episodes and it's over! tonight was the finale. No way will it get renewed

holy shit is Dorion trash and a jerk

He projects his insecurity constantly onto others. No one knows who the fuck he is. He's always been fame adjacent. He needs to stop acting like he's too good to be around the others

He also gaslights. He said he's so real yet he's the fakest one there with his confessionals bashing everyone but Curtis. He says he hates drama and that's why he decided not to appear at the final gathering yet he caused the drama by riling up Curtis with a distortion of what happened. I'm glad producers showed Dorion was the one who asked both Brad and Todrick about Curtis' sister. They didn't go running to him to gossip or insult her. I don't blame Curtis for believing his friend of 10 years over people he knew not as well but hopefully he changes his mind about Dorion after tonight's episode

I was happy to see Curtis say he's interested in doing some gay acting roles.

R200, agreed. Dorion is horrible.

Oh gee, it’s over already??? What will Todrick do now? lol

So Dorion (sp?) is worse than Todrick? AKA, he stole Fraudrick's thunder?

Brad and Gary have to be relieved this dead horse has been put to pasture.

Its unfortunate that Curtis had to end the series looking like an asshole. He let Dorion manipulate him. Dorion is so fucking evil!

Todrick made good points, Curtis needs to understand that most people experience what he's experiencing when they come out. He's the one who brought his family issues to the show. He can't call people out for discussing that his sister obviously is not supportive.

Joey gives his overall thoughts now that the season is over

Butter face

R206 don't forget to buy Buttah Skin by Dorion Renaud

That Joey has crater face.

R208 - agreed. All of these queens love to use a filter on their social media photos and then wonder why their "fans" are let down when they see them in real life.

Time for a laser peel, Joey!

The ratings for this show SUCKED! They lost 80% of RuPaul’s lead in. There will NOT be any reunion. There will NOT be a Season 2. Just go away. You influence no one. No one knows who you are.

Well the bad reception of this show will just be used as further evidence to media execs that people only want to see gays portrayed as drag queens and servile sidekicks in the media. We clamor all the time about how we want a more diverse representation of gays in the media, but when that finally arrives everyone just turns their noses up. And we’ll continue watching reality shows about women who are equally non-influential, and continue supporting their careers without question!

R211 what exactly was there to support here?

Dorion is an asshole, but Joey is a famewhore nightmare.

[italic]The A-List[/italic] did it better.

r214 this show *IS* A-List, (see r149) - MTV just slapped a new name on it before it was shown on TV

[quote]6 episodes and it's over! tonight was the finale.

Who won? Was it FINALLY me?

R211 exactly

I respect Drag Race and what they do but not all gays are drag queens or into drag culture. I don't watch it. I want more gay reality shows that aren't about men acting and dressing up as women.

Some in the gay community are so toxic. This was supposed to be a fun trashy show but they went all in on the cancel culture bullshit (to be clear there are times when cancel culture is warranted but this is not 1 of them). They did the same thing several years ago with that Finding Prince Charming gay bachelor dating show because stupidly the producers picked a former escort as the lead. Rather than say, OK do better for season 2, many gays refused to watch and now we haven't had a gay dating show on tv since then.

Many straight celebs including female superstars have said and done problematic things yet continue to enjoy massive gay support. Why are the standards so much higher for gays from other gays? In the entertainment business by nature you're going to find a lot of assholes

Toddrick’s pussy stinks!

A List NY was fine until they added the fame hungry fag hag in season 2. She destroyed the show.

[quote] Some in the gay community are so toxic.

Has being this judgmental ever solved anything? Toxic this, this pushes gay acceptance back into the stone ages that. Nag, nag, nag. Whine, whine, whine. You think that's the opposite of toxic?

I've tried to watch it but have failed.

If these are aspirational gays, then god help us. They're not even interesting.

Who’s that queer who wore the shorts with a suitcoat? That queen rated himself a 9 out of 10??? Completely delusional and insufferable. He’s a reason why gays are hated.

Todtick Hall is a total fraud. He’s sub-Z-list.

[quote]holy shit is Dorion trash and a jerk.

I know a lot of the drama on these so-called "reality" shows is manufactured but I can't imagine that Dorion was happy with the way this ended, basically by showing him to be such a liar and manipulator whose sole objective was destroying Curtis's relationship with the others in the group. How could this possibly be good for his brand? Hopefully he will be able to convince people that he was made to look bad by the editing.

That chick from Macy’s made a “buttah” joke and Dorian didn’t get it. The producers made sure to keep that moment in the final cut.

Note to future reality show stars: do not piss of production because they can make you look like a stupid, ugly psycho on international TV.

I used to like Todrick Hall when he made an appearance on RuPaul. But, he's an insufferable piece of work.

I'm glad he's on the show, so that people can see what he's like.

Half shorts annoyed us all. Bye.

R225 I must have missed that part. What did she say? He takes himself way too seriously so not shocking he didn't get it

R224 well for someone who claims he doesn't care about the show, he was on social media Friday night fighting with people in the comments lol. He maintains that it's other people and production lying about him,, not that he was the liar. Most of the comments were bashing him but there were a handful here and there who supported him. I wouldn't be shocked if they were friends he sent to defend him

[quote]I used to like Todrick Hall when he made an appearance on RuPaul. But, he's an insufferable piece of work.

I don't know what show you guys just watched, but Dorian makes Todrick look like an angel in comparison. Todrick may pull his stunts but Dorian is the type of guy who will fuck up your whole life and not give a shit. He does not have feelings.

Seems like each one of the guys was ready to walk off the show at any point. The second they didn’t like the way it was going they “left” with only 6 episodes what were the behind the scenes drama that had everyone with one foot out. That’s the show that would be better to watch!

R229 spell his name correctly when you speak of him, peasant! It's Dorion with 2 Os, no As.

Despite looking somewhat foolish in the end, Curtis is gorgeous and seems like a good guy (I'm glad they included the little clip at the end showing that he and Brad made up). It will be interesting to see what effect, if any, being on this show will have on his career. Hopefully he will still get lots of work as an actor.

Was that Dorian Lord from OLTL???

Brad has forgotten all about the cast of this show. But when one of them books a big acting gig and needs a stylist for a high- profile red carpet, Brad will suddenly remember that he has a best friend in WeHo!

Welcome to Hollywood where your only value is making other people rich!

Did any of these guys come out of this looking good? Brad seems messy and a true Hollywood social climber. Curtis is a grown man with too many issues. James name drops his has been husband every five seconds while acting above this show. Dorian an insecure arrogant jerk. Joey desperate and annoying. Truth be told Toderick is the most likeable of this bunch.

I like Curtis

Hated it. They’re all narcissistic and truthfully, they are nobodys. No one knows who they are. No one cares who they are.

[quote] But when one of them books a big acting gig...

Don't think that will be happening any time soon...

r235 I dont think Brad came off as messy. This show was pretty subdued; there wasn't a lot of mess to be involved in. Brad genuinely helped Curtis through his come outing journey and I can tell their friendship will continue beyond the show. Curtis will be fine in a year or two, when he can reconcile those family issues. He's a good actor and he's already had leading roles on TV.

Dorian (yes r231 I will continue putting that "A" in his name, for asshole) is of course one of the most rotten personalities ever on TV!

If Curtis gets even a little bit of showbiz success, he’ll drop that homophobic family without a second thought but if he’s a burnout he’ll need to sleep on their couches.

R240 he could always get a sugar daddy if it comes to that

but really I'd like to see him get with an equally hot guy

Beautiful