Actors who have connived, fucked, stripped, manipulated, or lucked their way into fair-to-middling careers

the cast of full house. (vs the olsen twins)

More about Cory Michael Smith plz

Billy Porter

Amy Schumer

Chelsea Handler

Harvey's girls

Cocktease (or more) to any gay guy who could do him some good, R2

Bobby Cannavale?

Amy Schumer is likable and funny.

It would be an overstatement to say that most of those listed had middling careers. The names Mike Doyle, Joel Johnstone, Corey Michael Smith, David Eigenberg and Chris Carmack . . .don't register with me, at all and Adam Rapp has Kevin Spacey to thank for my recognizing his name.

Chelsea Handler has no talent. I’ve heard rumors about her too.

Debra Messing

Lens Dunham

Beanie Feldstein

Chris Meloni

Wasn't Bobby Cannavale a hustler who fucked the right person who got him introduced to Sidney Lumet and eventually married Lumet's daughter? That's how Cannavale got his career jump-started, I hear.

Most of Broadway. (I was going to list but really, even if they've had great careers that are on decline... there's just so, so many. And more so in the last few years, if we open it up to producers, too. The current politics has everybody faking it to some degree. Like a couple years ago, you had multiple singers apologizing for performing stereotypical, bawdy, taboo, comical songs. .. the microaggression and trigger warning obsession has finally died down and they're right back toi it.)

True, R10. If we're talking directors, I would have to say Sam Gold is the biggest low-rent manipulator who's ever conned his way into a career. He's almost completely devoid of talent, but played the phony gay card when it suited him, then attached himself like a barnacle to playwright Annie Baker. He's a douche to people as well. Glenda Jackson HATED him.

Jordan Roth

Sorry, I know OP specifies actors, but wow is Roth ever the lucky bitch.

Leonardo DiCaprio

Orlando Bloom

Tobey Maguire

Jake Gyllenhall (Maggie, too) - they have moments of mega success but they kind of middle out between them.

Michelle Williams, Lea Michele, Amy Yasbeck (milked their hubbies/bfs deaths in a tasteless way.)

Chrissy Teigen & John Travolta (for all the dead babies but none of the jokes)

Middling careers, R14. They all have pretty good careers on your list.

I own this thread.

Said the people who live their parents basements and have no careers.

David Eigenberg? Who did he (allegedly) fuck to get ahead?

R17 is so much fun.

Women, R18. Female directors, female playwrights, female tv show runners on hit HBO shows.

Joel Johnstone was mentioned on another thread as being a major user and gay baiter.

R21 And the subject of speculation on an old thread on whether he was the actor with a big cock who got representation after having a nude scene in an off off Broadway show.

Adam Rapp is a playwright - generally a lousy one, though THE SOUND INSIDE was very good. OP is thinking of Anthony Rapp.

R11, more about Jackson and Gold, please. Gold certainly made a mess out of LEAR and MACBETH, and I heard his GLASS MENAGERIE was a shit show.

I wonder if Jackson disliked Gold more than Joe Mantello, who directed her in THREE TALL WOMEN. When she accepted the Tony, she got Mantello's first name wrong (called him John) and made it clear that they had a contentious relationship. I get the impression that she dislikes directors in general.

I wouldn't even call David Burtka's career "middling".

That's right, R22.

Whew gurl this thread is VOID without our COLTON

[quote]Adam Rapp has Kevin Spacey to thank for my recognizing his name.

When you say Adam Rapp, don't you mean his brother, Anthony Rapp? Adam is a playwright, his brother Anthony is the actor.

R22, if this is a sign of anything, the only picture of Johnstone on Broadway World is one with his shirt off.

R23 and R26, yes, sorry, I meant Anthony Rapp. Although a woman friend of mine dated his brother Adam and she said he was abusive to her.

Based on some of Rapp's more button-pushing plays, I believe he would be abusive.

Jada

Madonna (as far acting goes)

Janet Jackson (how did it go on for so long and nobody took them aside to say, no girl, just no.)

Dolly/Bette/Barbra/Cher lucked their way into it. (They're not consistent. They have a few great performances and a lot of shit)

Julia Roberts (okay, she's a mega but there's a lot of fucking, conniving, manipulation.)

Jennifer Saunders (mega cunt.)

Cybil Shepherd

Chloe Sevigny

Traci Lords

Paris Hilton

Pamela Anderson

Jackie Chan

Ewan mcgregor (he's more known by his dick than his movies)

r14, Michelle Williams is pretty damn talented!

R23, Glenda Jackson, from the moment Gold opened his mouth, knew she had a loser director to work with. She totally washed her hands of him about midway through rehearsals and just went with her own instincts and hoped for the best. She really thought he was a moron. Mantello she fought with, but she respected him.

r15 John Travolta hasn't been viable in decades... Jake is forgotten between successes (people forget Maggie once became more famous than he did.)

r31 Still, she tried to use Heath's death to her advantage - so, did she become successful on her own or was it sparked by said death? Lea Michelle is another one that over did that.

MIDDLING careers.

r34 you might emphasize careers instead. Go ask a tiktok kid about Travolta's films.

Ben Hardy.

R27 You have to go way way back and off off Broadway (these are the hundreds of little showcase repertory theatre productions in tiny 60 seat theaters. It was one of these three.

I think he was nude in two of them, R37.

[quote]It would be an overstatement to say that most of those listed had middling careers.

Just because you're not familiar with them doesn't mean they haven't had middling careers. You can go to imdbd, ibdb, and/or just Google to find out what they've done. No one said any of these people had great careers.

R27 Here. This horny blogger covered the event.

^ 35 ^ He's a nobody now... a dinosaur from the past that has one too many gayish encounters that got into the tabloids. . . they don't know jack about him besides a movie or two, but doubt most of them can associate his name with them.

Quite the smug mug at R40.

Brandon Routh

OP is just one of the Spacey loons trying to attack Anthony Rapp

Thanks, R32.

OP doesn't give a shit about either of them, R44.

I'd be fine with Bobby Cannavale conniving, fucking, stripping, and manipulating me.

Probably many also were, R47.

Speaking of Sam Gold, it's interesting that Daniel Craig has the opposite opinion of him vs. Jackson, though I have to wonder if the failure of MACBETH changed his mind.

Didn't Daniel Craig also say he wouldn't give his kids any of his wealth when they grew up and make them work for it, R49? Craig sounds. like an asshole to me. An asshole would like another asshole.

Glenda Jackson being famed for being such a nice person?

Just because she's smart and tough doesn't mean she's an asshole, R51.

r47 his slutty gay son it has tried it but I dont think it took, not getting fucked by the right mens!

r52 No, it's her acting like an asshole which makes here an asshole

Apple doesn't far fall from the tree, does it, R53? I think there was some picture I saw of Cannavale father and son and it looked they were a couple, the way they were tuching each other.

Jake Cannavale has drug issues. I think that was also part of it. A user in both senses of the word.

R22 quite big bulge.

Michelle Williams tried to use dudes death as z springboard... uhm, I don't remember a single interview, nothin.

"tried to use dudes death as z springboard... uhm"

How old are you, dear R58?

If that’s how Cannavale got ahead, I’m glad. He’s a terrific actor and I enjoy his work.

A casting couch and/or a huge penis or tight ass is the only thing that can explain Billy Magnussen's rise. He's fine enough, but nothing special.

I agree, R60!

You can teach a young dog new tricks.

Jake Cannavale was as cute as fuck in Nurse Jackie.

I guess the dude at R40 is entitled to a smug mug if he has a big weiner.

Agreed, R65, it looks like has big dick energy.

*he looks like has big dick energy.

You leave my fair-to-middling eldergay ex-lover Mike Doyle alone!

asshole energy

David Burtka? Career????? Oh! My sides!!!

r63 Even funnier given his time on OF showed he actually is into that puppy play stuff

R69, you may be right. Asshole energy and big-dick energy often go hand in hand.

Ezra Miller must be blackmailing somebody.

And Harry Styles. And Miles Teller.

Johnstone is average verging on homely. Who would want to see him naked anywhere?

Mike Doyle went to Juilliard and is very handsome. It got him a Newsweek cover and a few TV shows. Rannells has to be the ugliest most annoying individual in the history of the planet. Why Doyle ever let him into his home let alone into him is a mystery greater than that of any ancient pharaoh.

The "I Don't Find Any Guy Handsome" troll had arrived, R75.

Who was looking at his face, darling R75?

Ed Arellano he fucked his way into America by getting a girl to marry him, then left her for a disabled woman and then he destroyed her house and accused her of being a drunk so he could have fuck buddies. Why didn’t he just leave? Hahaha such a stereotype

[quote]A casting couch and/or a huge penis or tight ass is the only thing that can explain Billy Magnussen's rise. He's fine enough, but nothing special.

FWIW, I thought he was excellent in the three things I've seen him in: VANYA & SONIA, the INTO THE WOODS movie, and a very well written and intriguing Off-Broadway play called SEX WITH STRANGERS. Who knows if he put out at all to help him get roles, but regardless, I do think he's very talented. He also seems to be good about choosing roles in which he's very well cast rather than trying to go outside of his wheelhouse.

Jennifer Lopez owns this thread.

A dick does not a person make. And neither does being a dick which Johnstone seems to have sewn up.

"A dick does not a person make."

Who needs a person when a dick is at the ready?

Who, R79?

"Who would want to see him naked anywhere?"

I wouldn't say no, R75.

R76, why was Miss Doyle on the cover of Newsweek? Youngest person to graduate from Juilliard? (She wasn't.)

"Rannells has to be the ugliest most annoying individual in the history of the planet."

How very dare you, R76! That would be me!

Conniving and luck are the only answers for the middling careers of both Grenier and Carmack. Two of the most talent-free himbos around.

Thanks for the info, R20.

Billy Magnusson isn't aging well. I like him better on stage vs film.

I saw Chris Carmack onstage in that notorious Off-Broadway production of ENTERTAINING MR. SLOANE that also starred Alec Baldwin and Jan Maxwell, and Carmack was quite good in it, complete with what sounded to my ears like a very credible lower-class Brit accent. Actually, his performance in that show was far better than Baldwin's.

I don't know how Rannells got the hotness that IS Tuc Watkins, either.

Either he has a foot long cock or can suck the chrome off a bumper.

[quote] Adam Rapp is a playwright - generally a lousy one, though THE SOUND INSIDE was very good.

His stock in trade is misery porn. Plays filled with awful and/or tragically sad people doing awful and/or tragically sad things. Lots of shrieking and screaming, drugs, shitting in bathtubs, all that sort of thing.

r92 Even if he does have a foot long cock (he doesn't, his dick pics are out there) what good would it be on him?

anthony rapp

Nancy Cocksucker Reagan sucked her way to the middle with a couple of mediocre roles.

True, R96. She truly owns this thread.

Back in the day…. CARMEN ELECKTA

R98, you just know she's an excellent cocksucker.

Speaking of, Pam Anderson, of course, belong on this thread.

r92 Tuc is the one who is hung. Not sure of this paring either, When he was on OLTL he would fuck any muscled extra who showed a passing interest.

R26 you are right of course. But the subject of the thread is actors, so I think OP meant Anthony.

R100, did David A. Gregory show any interest?

Who said Doyle was the youngest person to go to Juilliard?

What's the problem?

Gretchen Mol owns this thread. So does Oivia Wilde and every other woman who fucked the walking skin tag for Hollywood clout, only to realize they never had the talent to sustain it anyway.

Tommy Tune

Tommy Tune had a middling career? Nine was the last great musical staging I saw.

I don’t know anything about Hollywood, but I just assume that any handsome young male aspiring star in Hollywood has to put out to get ahead.

Most of us haven't seen the Broadway actors or plays some of you are referring to. Can we have more examples of people who are more well known, or that we have heard of, or seen somewhere?

R109 “Most of us?” Who are you? The shop steward?

I'll always think of Billy Magnussen as "Butters."

That's the nickname the writer at AfterElton (the very funny Brian Jeurgens) gave Magnussen when he was doing the daily recaps of the gay storyline (Nuke) on soap opera, As the World Turns. Billy played one of Luke and Noah's friends, "Casey Hughes," but he quickly became known as "Butters."

OP, please tell us what you've heard about Mike Doyle.

R110 How do you get "shop steward" from my just stating a probable fact? Unless most people on this board are from the NYC area and attend the theatre frequently, or follow NY theatre religiously from afar, it's just a probability that posters won't be familiar with references to Broadway performers. I mean, I see posters on the board from across the US, Canada, and from Europe.

R113 I doubt even New Yorkers could name the star of most Broadway shows since tourists are flocking to all those jukebox musicals and film to stage adaptations Pretty Woman, Tootsie, Mean Girls, Mrs. Doubtfire . . .

You do what you have to do to survive.

Flies in the buttermilk: shoo, shoo, shoo!

R113, more than half the people on the OP list are also known partly or mostly for tv and movies.

HOW DARE YOU MISANDRISTS TALK ABOUT THESE BEAUTIFUL, INNOCENT MEN LIKE THIS!!! HOW VERY DARE YOU!!!

R112, he was very willing to strip for several stage productions especially early on in his career. He didn't connive or manipulate his way into a career, though. He was naked in about 4 stage productions and then he stripped for Oz and other movie/tv things.

If ya got it, flaunt it.

Addition of manipulated or lucked would include virtually every actor on the screen.

"Addition of manipulated or lucked"

Oh, dear, R120.

R116 I was talking about all the posts about Broadway and off Broadway actors.

You want all the posts about Broadway and off-Broadway to accommodate you and add pictures and a resume for every actor you don't know?

Nick Adams owns this thread.

THIS Nick Adams . . .

KAREN RICHARDS: "A part in a play... you'd do all that, for a part in a play..."

EVE HARRINGTON: "For a part that good, I'd do much more than that!"

I'm more interested in what Adrian Grenier has done for fame? Anything gay?

[quote}You want all the posts about Broadway and off-Broadway to accommodate you and add pictures and a resume for every actor you don't know?

No, I didn't say I wanted pictures and resumes of people I don't know. I said:

[quote]Most of us haven't seen the Broadway actors or plays some of you are referring to. Can we have more examples of people who are more well known, or that we have heard of, or seen somewhere?

Don't you understand English?

[quote]You want all the posts about Broadway and off-Broadway to accommodate you and add pictures and a resume for every actor you don't know?

No, I didn't say I wanted pictures and resumes of people I don't know. I said:

[quote]Most of us haven't seen the Broadway actors or plays some of you are referring to. Can we have more examples of people who are more well known, or that we have heard of, or seen somewhere?

R123 Don't you understand English?

And you know this because you “heard”? Stupid thread.

R129, you're askng for another thread that caters to you. Here's some English for you: start your own thread, or wait until you recognize an actor on this thread.

R130, I'm sure there's a more sophisticated thread for you--on Datalounge.

You rang.

Yes, indeed, R133.

Who was/is that at R133?

Channing Tatum, R135.

Why is Adrian Grenier almost 50 with no wife and kids? Shouldn't DL be speculating about his sexuality? Or does No one care?

Trust me, R137, no one cares. Remind us why we should?

R137: Conversely, wife and kids doesn’t mean you’re straight.

No, it sure doesn't.

Ben Platt, Beanie Feldstein and her brother Jonah Hill, Lens Dunham - none of these people had to fuck anyone for anything. Their uber-rich daddies paid for their middling careers, thank you very much.

Cody "Cakes" Christian

R121, the original heading used “manipulated” and “lucked”, however incorrect.

“Actors who have connived, fucked, stripped, manipulated, or lucked their way into fair-to-middling careers.”

Christopher Atkins

Helmut Berger

Adrien Grenier- he’s so washed up since that forgettable show Entourage went off the air.

R137- I thought he was gay when he was on Entourage.

R92- They both seem cut from the same cloth- Both stereotypically GAY.

Keanu Reeves- I heard he was submitted tothe GAY casting couch 🛋

Grenier was at least straight enough to jack off for a woman on cam a couple of times

boring thread without actual scoop and pictures.

I'm pretty sure the word "lucked" is correct as used in the OP.

R148 The hell you say!

^ He's not even a "fair-to-middling" actor but he has a great career.

^ Beauty has it's privileges.

“Actors who have connived, fucked, stripped, manipulated, or lucked their way into fair-to-middling careers.”

That's completely correct grammar, R143.

And yet, R150, here you are.

R150 actually wants to see pictures of these actors conniving/fucking/lucking their way into careers. Idiot.

R156- And yet , here you are- isn't that a line from Tess in Working Girl?

R155, don’t disagree but just responding to the R121 “oh Dear”. I will just shut up.

R9- Bobby Carnavale never seemed straight to me anyway.

In fairness to earlier posts you should understand I hate everybody. Fuckers the lot of you!

And you'd be right to, Glenda/R160!

Aren't fair and middling the same?

How fucking dare you, OP!

The only thing Bobby fucks is me.

I'm lucking my way out of this thread! Extensionally!

No-one would have ever heard of Amanda Loots if her hubby hadn't died from Covid. She owns this thread. Well, she and Taylor Lautner.

^Kloots. KLOOTS.

Billy Barty

[Quote]Why is Adrian Grenier almost 50 with no wife and kids?

R137 he is 46 and he is married as of June 2022

R168- He's still a connoisseur of COCK.

[quote]If that’s how Cannavale got ahead, I’m glad. He’s a terrific actor and I enjoy his work.

Bobby Cannavale was director Sidney Lumet's son-in-law (married to Jenny Lumet). Getting your first legit agent and first few small tv roles can take YEARS. It took me forever!

Euan Morton

R156 Is your prolapsed hole continuously bleeding again? Please plug it up and move along.

Why, R172? Just because you proved yourself to be a fucking moron?

Thanks, R40. That is quite the five-star review of Johnstone's cock and ass. I did a search to see more about him and it looks like he's now dating one of the Maisel cast members. I guess his wife and kids are out of the picture.

Making kissy faces with their SAG awards.

Why are so many actors sluts?

How else are they going to get their foot in the door? From there it takes charisma and or acting talent. Not necessarily both. At least that's what Lana Turner and Keanu Reeves told me.

R142 poor Cody.

Who did Bobby fuck?

[quote]KAREN RICHARDS: "A part in a play... you'd do all that, for a part in a play..."

[quote]EVE HARRINGTON: "For a part that good, I'd do much more than that!"

Eve's actual reply is, "“I'd do a lot more for a part that good." I remember the line because of Anne Baxter's way of saying "good" at the end of the line, in a sort of low, gutteral way. This is the scene where she reveals herself as a sort of cold, clawing animal you'd better fear if you know what's good for you.

Thanks for the correct quote, R180. The correct version is a far better and punchier line.

So this guy Johnstone has left his family for an Oscar nominee? That's a good career move.

He's cute but wow what a piece of shit.

R180, I think the actual line is, "I'd do much more for a part that good." Kind of like this guy Johnstone would.

I know plenty of male actors who would fuck a guy for a role and still claim to be straight. One guy was so desperate to get a six-week contract role on a daytime soap, he let a male producer fuck him because it go him in the union.

R184 Yeah you're right.

Being a whore is part of the job decription for some actors, R185.

Will Johnstone dump Hsu when she loses?

r187 I understand it. There are a million wanna-be hot guys in LA. This was pre only fans, pre Instagram of course. If he didn't ten other guys would have.

OP, how do you know this? Unless you can verify sources, there's no way this can be proven.

R190, the answers have been sprinkled through this thread for at least half the actors on that original list. Can you read?

"verify sources"

R190 thinks this is a NY Times article.

- sighted reference, Tom from the club. You know Tom. He swears it's true.

"sighted reference"

Oh, dear, R193.

[Quote] he let a male producer fuck him because it go him in the union.

I misread union as unicorn.

r195 oh it got in him in the unicorn too.