Tom Drake was a deeply closeted gay guy and he was easily given to despair. He was never known to have had a serious romance, although he bedded both Rock Hudson and James Dean. As an adult he lived with a profound drinking problem and he lived a life of fear with having his gayness found out. John Carlyle worked regularly on television, on stage in and around Los Angeles, and toured in summer stock. In one production, he appeared with Tom Drake. He and Drake would have a one-night-stand. Drake also had an affair with Merv Griffin. Both Carlyle and Griffin had a relationship with Judy Garland, with whom Drake worked in Meet Me in St. Louis (1944).
Judy Garland's love interest in Meet me in St. Louis was gay
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 1, 2023 1:03 AM |
Mama schure loved her gaysch!
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 30, 2022 5:52 PM |
Are you implying he was a friend of Esther?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 30, 2022 6:02 PM |
R1- You’re funny 😆
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 30, 2022 6:02 PM |
And Vincente Minnelli was kind to give him a decent role two decades later in The Sandpiper.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 30, 2022 6:13 PM |
Isn’t it a bit odd for three generations of women (Judy’s mother, Judy, Liza) to all marry gay men?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 30, 2022 6:15 PM |
R5 no odder than Mama and daughters all had substance abuse issue These patterns repeat in families
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 30, 2022 6:23 PM |
Tom Drake was hot when he was young.
He also slept with Van Johnson, too (allegedly)
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 30, 2022 6:29 PM |
Merv Griffin??? Ewww.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 30, 2022 6:33 PM |
[quote]He also slept with Van Johnson, too (allegedly)
All the boys fucked Van. He had the loosest hole in Hollywood, after Crawford.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 30, 2022 6:43 PM |
Broderick Crawford was a greasy holed sling slut?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 30, 2022 7:01 PM |
Broderick was a doll, baby. I paid his bail for a few of his DUIs. You know what Crawford I'm talking about.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 30, 2022 7:05 PM |
[quote]All the boys fucked Van. He had the loosest hole in Hollywood, after Crawford.
That's rich coming from a broad with blown out, well worn cavern like yourself.
Must be like the consistency of Jack Link's these days.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 30, 2022 7:18 PM |
No worn out cavern on me, baby. I do my exercises. Keeps things nice and tight down there.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 30, 2022 7:24 PM |
R4, I wondered if Minnelli tapped that
Or George Cukor
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 30, 2022 7:34 PM |
[quote]Keeps things nice and tight down there.
More like pickled and preserved by all the hooch!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 30, 2022 7:45 PM |
Yes, OP, we know.
Thank you for rushing to start this badly written thread to tell us something we ALL know and which we have discussed here many, many, many, many, many, MANY times.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 30, 2022 7:58 PM |
R17 has stated your boundaries.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 30, 2022 7:59 PM |
You know he must have been gay because Judy slept with him.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 30, 2022 8:01 PM |
Sometimes I think to myself how wonderful it will be to one day open Datalounge and read, "R17 is Dead to Me! (Stick Up His Ass Finished Him Off)"
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 30, 2022 8:04 PM |
The guy who played her brother was way cuter.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 30, 2022 8:07 PM |
They were both hot
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 30, 2022 8:36 PM |
But the really cute guy was the boyfriend of Judy’s sister, the one who called from Yale or Princeton or whatever. You just know that dick sucking had something to do with his casting.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 30, 2022 9:33 PM |
"Mama schure loved her gaysch!
—Lizascha!"
You had a certain knack for picking out just the right queens to marry, Missy.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 30, 2022 10:19 PM |
R20 ah, it must be relaxing to be such a basic bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 30, 2022 10:30 PM |
Aw, how cute. R25 is trying to be witty.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 30, 2022 10:59 PM |
I can't think of a more depressing end than living in Torrance.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 30, 2022 11:15 PM |
Try living in Darfur.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 30, 2022 11:40 PM |
Isn't he the guy who was Elizabeth Taylor's groom in Father of the Bride?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 31, 2022 12:05 AM |
I've always crushed on Tom Drake in "MMISL" with Judy, especially the scene when he finally catches up to and joins her and their other friends on the trolley car. (I know, this is my "MARY!" moment.) Such beautiful eyes, face and voice.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 31, 2022 12:35 AM |
R30, time, tide and trolley wait for no man.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 31, 2022 12:39 AM |
OP, Judy Garland met and fell in love with and married the Gay man who directed this movie..... and thus...Liza with a "Z"
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 31, 2022 12:50 AM |
He died broke
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 31, 2022 1:39 AM |
R33 yes, as OP's article told us.
[quote] He was taken by pneumonia, alone & mostly forgotten in a tiny apartment in Torrence, California in 1982.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 31, 2022 1:43 AM |
On John Carlyle -
Darkly handsome actor who was once represented by the notorious Henry Willson, the manager/agent who changed the name of Roy Fitzgerald to Rock Hudson and made the actor a huge star. Tried to promote Carlyle as the "next Montgomery Clift" but the promo fell short. A homosexual, Carlyle authored "Under the Rainbow: An Intimate Memoir of Judy Garland, Rock Hudson and My Life in Old Hollywood" [ISBN-13: 978-0786718535] that was published shortly after his death. He dishes sympathetic dirt on Garland, peccadilloes with the likes of Tom Drake and his own personal and professional shortcomings in an era of homophobia.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 31, 2022 4:14 AM |
See, now Drake was a pretty decent actor and could have had a decent career, but IMO homophobia destroyed his opportunities.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 31, 2022 4:50 AM |
[quote]But the really cute guy was the boyfriend of Judy’s sister, the one who called from Yale or Princeton or whatever.
Warren Sheffield!
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 31, 2022 5:25 AM |
I always loved his speaking voice
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 31, 2022 4:59 PM |
He did not age well. He look like an alcoholic in THE SINGING NUN Puffy
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 31, 2022 9:50 PM |
Tom attended a taping of "The Judy Garland Show", and Judy introduced him in the audience and said sweet things about him to the viewers.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 31, 2022 9:53 PM |
Per the Clarke bio, Judy was very chilly to Drake after he couldn't get it up for her.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | January 1, 2023 1:03 AM |