Mama's family

1986 was great with Bubba, Iola, Naomi and Vint

Aunt Effie - Heeelp. Heeeeelp.

You may find this thread of interest.

Rue McClannahan said that she was originally signed to play Naomi

However Carol Burnett used her influence to get Dorothy Lyman cast as Naomi. Since they had Rue under contract (and to avoid a lawsuit) - they created the dowdy part of Aunt Fran just for her

Naturally Rue was pissed, and glad when the show got cancelled

r3

thanks... I swear I did a search

Network Naomi is far better than syndicated Naomi. NN is sly, sexy and in control. SN is horribly wigged, maybe 4 iq points higher than Vint and I don't know what the fuck.was.with those shrill voice maneuvers.

I hated the show.

I've never known anyone to like the show strongly who wasn't from a background very much like that of the characters on the show.

Buzz was ugly.

The syndicated show was a lot of harmless fun.

According to Rue, she was always going to play Aunt Fran, but Aunt Fran was supposed to be more of a Naomi character. There was no Naomi in the original script.

The producers created the Naomi character for Dorothy Lyman after Rue had already signed on to play Fran. So Fran became kind of a pointless nonentity and Rue hated playing her.

Alan Kayser (Bubba) has a red bush per reports.

[quote]I did a search and nothing came up

Sure, just like the Golden Girls and Designing Women threads you started where you "did a search." Maybe this is what passes for humor on DL these days.

Oh yeah, R7…well I hate you!

(Throws can of Big Top beer at idiot R7)

DL has reminisced over Bubba’s tight jeans many times.

Bubba had a sexy body

and a big sexy package

Burnett loved Lyman’s character Opal Gardner on All My Children and brought her out to LA play a character like her on mamas family.

"Rashomama" (one of their best episodes) was on LOGO this evening.

Rashomama.

Vint’s daughter Sonya was a complete waste of space

The linked thread at R3 is grayed out. What kind of monsters on here would gray out a Mama's Family thread?

R18, Was I supposed to get the liquid????!!!!

[quote]your thoughts?

I still say, and will always say, that this show is one of the best sitcoms in history. And Beverly Archer is one of the greatest second bananas.

Rashomama was a good episode.

[quote] I've never known anyone to like the show strongly who wasn't from a background very much like that of the characters on the show.

My background is way different from Mama's Family and Raytown, but I enjoyed this series. I liked the Bubba seasons more than the earlier seasons. It's just silly humor and cheered me up through some depressing times.

I liked Iola a lot.

The people who don't like Mama's Family are the same types who think Tig Notaro is funny and love to brag that they don't own a TV. Mama's Family is just mindless fun. They weren't trying to reinvent the wheel, they just did funny stuff for a broad audience.

It was enjoyable in much the same way Keeping Up Appearances was entertaining: the show followed a formula and had strong comedic acting. It would have been great if there had been a Keeping Up/Mama's Family crossover... maybe they could have crossed paths on a Caribbean cruise?

Sure R26, and Bubba would be caught fucking Sheridan. Of course they would only show the back of Sheridan’s head.

Vint and Richard would become fast friends, I'm sure.

I loved the Bubba Got a Blowjob episode with LuAnn Fayette.

The show had layers. Look at the transformation of Bubba. Every season the jeans got tighter, the hair got bigger and he became this model teen. They even got rid of his sidekicks. Then there's the transformation of Iola into a looser character.

I never understood the fuss about Bubba.

Bubba in jeans.

Love the syndicated, hate the original except when Carol was full on Eunice

Bubba's ass was a thing of beauty. Mama Goes Hawaii is a 2 part favorite of mine. Bubba in a bathing suit!

According to IMDB, Lorna Luft was first choice for Iola. I wonder why she turned that down?

Her singing engagements at The Smoke House lounge in Toluca Lake couldn't have paid much.

Allan Kayser (Bubba), grown up and looking gingery.

Ahhh R32, Mama just got $800 from the automated teller.

What’s the matter? Ain’t ya ever seen an old lady waiting for a bus??

[quote]I never understood the fuss about Bubba.

Are you headless?

Reunion '92

Maybe it's an asshole that think gingers "smell funny down there".

I'd suck him until his nuts rattled even today.

R23 and R24, come cozy up next to me.

[quote] According to IMDB, Lorna Luft was first choice for Iola. I wonder why she turned that down?

I was molested god damn it!

I always thought it strange that Bubba looked in his mid 20s throughout the entire series but they treated him like a 10 year old most of the time.

Best part was Eunice. There's a little bit of Eunice in all of us.

Bubba smelled funny down there.

The show is for idiots and this idiot loves it.

I was offered the Buba role but turned it down.

I consider the Eunice/Family sketches from the Carol Burnett Show, the NBC version of Mama's Family and the syndicated Mama's Family as three different shows. The sketches on the CBS show were just sketches, they were dark and sad, but really funny because they struck a chord. For the weekly sitcom on NBC, the characters couldn't be so harsh and dark, so everything was toned down. For the syndicated version they just went full on broad comedy.

Personally, I prefer the CBS sketches and the syndicated version.

The only thing better about the Network version than the syndicated one was Naomi. She was a much better foil to Mama in her original form.

But the network version just seems so drab and dark. Sonia seemed like she was always covered with a thin layer of dirt and hair and needed a waxing. Buzz was ugly. Fran was boring.

The syndicated version was more light, colorful and campy. A better watch. Iola is fun. Bubba is hot.

I thought Eric Brown was nerdy cute. He starred in a couple of sex comedies in the 80s. The creepy Private Lessons and the unintentionally hilarious They’re Playing with Fire with the great Sybil Danning. I don’t think he got nude in either. He left acting to work in politics in DC. He’s a Democrat.

Allan Kayser works for the post office now. You can suck him off in his van.

Bubba smelled funny down there.

That monster child of reverend Meecham needed to be beat.

I have no doubt that Little Eugene is now a Datalounger.

The actor who played Little Eugene came out awhile back. He's had a rough go with Covid.

Bubba was sex on a stick, but Buzz is totally my type. He had a cute ass, too.

The Instagram account of Ryan Bollman, the Little Eugene actor.

Some of the best episodes (in addition to those already mentioned):

-- The chili contest

-- The flashback Mother's Day episode (DUKE REEVES!)

-- The film noir takeoff where everyone gets to play 40s archetypes

-- The one where Naomi has amnesia and Thelma turns her into a Stepford wife

-- The one where they fantasize about "what could have been" and Iola and Vint are married and Naomi is the goody two-shoes neighbor

I loved all the "Ray" gags: Chez Ray, McRay's, KRAY Radio, Lady Ray Fashions in the Galleraya Mall, Rayvis Auto Rental ...

My faves are-

-The one where Bubba writes a love letter to Naomi for Vint

- Thelma and Iola running against each other for President of the Church Ladies League

- When Thelma and Iola compete in the best flower contest

There are a bunch more, but those three were the first that came to mind.

There was also a good episode involving a Mama/ Eunice (Carol Burnett character) flashback.

A young Eunice (perfect casting for a yiung Eunice) showed up drunk for some school performance.

This was the dark back story of why Mama didn’t want her kids to drink, yet it was OK for her to crack open beers.

That was a dark episode, for MF.

Bubba

Here's "Soup to Nuts" (a.k.a. the chili cookoff). I loved that goofy sweater vest Bubba wore in the early syndicated seasons.

r58 That's the Mother's Day episode I mentioned.

[quote]I loved all the "Ray" gags: Chez Ray, McRay's, KRAY Radio, Lady Ray Fashions in the Galleraya Mall, Rayvis Auto Rental ...

St. Ray's Hospital, Ray-Mart, The Raymada Inn, the Safaray Travel Agency (where Thelma worked), Rayhound Bus Lines, The Ray of Hope Home for Wayward Girls, the Rayalto Theater.

The Bigger Jigger did not fit into the "Ray" theme, but it was a good name for a small town, neighborhood bar. In fact, there was a good episode, involving arm wrestling, that took place inside the Bigger Jigger.

r63 Have some RESPECT! It's where I DIED!

Did Iola ever get her cherry popped?

[quote] The people who don't like Mama's Family are the same types who think Tig Notaro is funny and love to brag that they don't own a TV.

Oh Jesus Christ: STAND DOWN, Mary. It's just a fucking TV show.

You are the most thin-skinned people I've ever known in my life. Who gives a shit if other people don't like Mama's Family? (Of all things.)

R59 That was the episode where even slutty LuAnn Fayette refused to suck off Bubba when they went on a date because he smelled funny down there.

The best episode is the one with Iola's freeze-dried cat. Vinton sits on her pussy! 🐱🤣🤣🤣🐈

I remember my father nearly fell out of his chair he was laughing so hard at this episode.

Allan Kayser work for USPS now, which is kind of perfect. He comes across as very nice and unaffected in his occasional interviews.

I know Allan Keyser is straight, but I hope he got tons of action when he played Bubba. he is such a nice guy, and he deserved his time getting tons of pussy back when he was so hot.

He delivers packages.

I think Iola got her cherry popped by the Norwegian sailor who a male version of her.

Beverly archer said when she was auditioning the other actresses were taking it very seriously and she auditioned like she was doing sketch comedy.

After the Rashomama episode, Burnett appeared only once more by phone for the mamas birthday episode where she calls mama on her birthday. The scribes that played young Eunice on that episode was perfect. Burnett and her husband Joe Hamilton were going by thru a contentions divorce and he was an executive producer on the show.

Burnett called Vicki Lawrence and a proposed a syndicated show where they played mama and Eunice again. Lawrence told Burnett that she had just agreed to do mamas family with Joe Hamilton for syndication. Burnett was furious and didn’t speak to Vicki for a few years.

Reunion '13

[quote] The scribes that played young Eunice

Scribes?

The more I watch the Iola episodes, I am struck by how good Beverly Archer is as Iola. She is that character through and through. She was the same way in all of the sitcoms I have seen her in, in the past. She did a great job in "Major Dad" too.

The only time I can think of when she almost broke Iola's character was when Mama was fucking around with some balloon animals and one broke and the remnants landed on Vicki's face and Vicki started to laugh and looked into the camera. Beverly reacts to it but really doesn't break character and the scene goes on.

Iola’s crush on Vint was hilarious. In the episode where Iola became Naomi, she (Iola) had cut-outs in her usual pink dress.

Vicki is still touring as Mama. She lives 20 minutes from me, but I never see a show in my area or I'd go.

R78, Mama is still big in the regions.

They don’t call me watermelon butt for nothing, Carol R79.

Isn’t Vicki a Trumper?

A ton more posts in the thread below, OP. Enjoy!

[quote]Isn’t Vicki a Trumper?

Not even close.

She was very pro-Biden during the election and Lyman does a lot for Democratic causes that Vicki "likes" and comments about on Instagram.

You LA folks can take a hop over to 1027 Montrose Ave. in South Pasadena to see Mama's house for yourselves.

Mama's house has a $1.8 million valuation. And it has a big lovely pool in the back yard.

Well, Bubba WAS on the swim team.

R8 is that tub of lard roselle huplander

I’ve never seen an episode. Why the hell did I read this entire thread???

I saw Roselle Huplander at Abdul's Garden of Eating before she left on her trip down the Ray River on the Dixie Belle.

(Lewdly) Was it a rear ender?

Those are the berries, you tramp.

One of my latter day favorites is where Bubba films a slice of life documentary for his college course with a defective camera.

[quote] Love the syndicated, hate the original except when Carol was full on Eunice

Absolutely the opposite for me. The "Family" sketches were great, and real, almost uncomfortably so.

The show was really.....well, it tried, didn't it?

Why did her dead husband spend so much of his life on the toilet?

And why were they all so comfortable discussing this years after his death on the can?

Well I saw that stuck up Nita Peterson eating at the Babylonian roof gardens with a big rip in her drawers!

I saw Kay Cheeseman going into Leslie LeMoyne's room at the Ray-mada Inn! Such a scandal!

Well, I could swear I saw Mayor Tutwiller dressed up like Ruth Roman at the Food Circus the other day!

FUCK THE PEPPER POT PLAYHOUSE!!!!!

You know I'm getting tired of always having to call Lolly Perdue about the CLL meetings, why doesn't she read the schedule like everyone else.

Your only post, r81? Hmmm.

I saw Aunt Effie at the Ray cemetery trying to dig up Aunt Fran and get those opal earrings back.

[quote]FUCK THE PEPPER POT PLAYHOUSE!!!!!

Face it, Eunice, you couldn't act your way out of a Niedermeyer's shopping bag!

I hear this year's guest artist in residence at the Pepper Pot Playhouse is going to be Phyllis Hammerow! She's coming all the way from MIami!

I thought it was really interesting they decided to make Bubba hot. on the Carol Burnett show he was never shown but he would get referred to (he was Eunice and Ed's son), and they implied vaguely he was repulsive, like one of the no-neck monsters. Then when he appeared on Mama's Family he was sexy and sweet-natured, if dim-witted. I thought that was smart because if he had also been repulsive looking like Vint (who was not repulsive in real life but styled to be such a geek), it would have been a hard show to watch.

OP your search button must not be working, because there was a MF thread earlier this year.

[quote]I hear this year's guest artist in residence at the Pepper Pot Playhouse is going to be Phyllis Hammerow! She's coming all the way from Miami!

Well, that hateful old biddy Barbara Thorndyke better not show her face in Raytown again. I never will forget that writers' workshop where she made poor Vernette Boylen cry after critiquing her mystery novelette, [italic]The Murderess Wore Support Hose.[/italic]

I met Allan Kayser at a horror convention several years ago and occasionally still communicate with him on social media. He’s totally down to earth and a sweetheart. We had briefly communicated via social media before I met him, so when I walked up to his table and we made eye contact he automatically knew who I was. We chatted at his table for about a half hour and I eventually got up the nerve to ask him how in the hell he was able to wear jeans so tight. He acknowledged that he has a big gay following because of them and said that they were actually comfortable and that he could still fit in them.

Zombie Bubba

Are Clint and Salomi still not fucking?

Bubba was also supposed to have been in legal trouble, a juvenile delinquent, who had been living in Florida. I didn't know he was supposed to be unattractive. Makes sense to make him appealing, though.

Dorothy Lyman was married to a man, who later came out. He's a stage director. They have a daughter who is a film producer

It was Vicki's idea to tighten up (literally and figuratively) Bubba's wardrobe. She told Allan that he was a leading man now and should dress like one.

r109 Funny that Dorothy went on to direct so many episodes of the Nanny - starring a woman whose husband eventually came out, as well.

I'm Midnight, Iola's evil cat. I ended up freeze dried - "like them little coffee crystals. "

[quote] Dorothy Lyman was married to a man, who later came out. He's a stage director.

Lyman daughter is a high-powered film producer for Martin Scorsese

So why hasn't she used her power to cast her mother (Dorothy Lyman) in her movies?

Maybe Dot is content with directing occasional episodic TV these days. Not everyone craves the actor's spotlight.

[quote] OP your search button must not be working, because there was a MF thread earlier this year.

Fuck off, self-appointed sheriff.

^Someone's got anger issues.

I thought Lyman had retired from acting but no, she seems to do a few guest spots a year.

R113, she's retired from acting.

Huh. For some reason I can no longer find Archer's and Lyman's interviews for TelevisionAcademy.com/Interviews.

R118 I thought the same, but her IMDB page lists several recent credits.

One time bubba had sex with a shark

Bubba and Buzz - there’s some good fanfic in there.

That’s nifty, R122.

Few guys on TV knew how to wear tight jeans better than Kayser.

That boy was ballsy, in more ways than one.

He was looking mighty fine long after the show was off the air.

Bubba came to live with mama straight out of reform school.

I’d bet money that Kayser and Lawrence were hooking up during the series. Though it might not have been willingly on Bubba’s part

^He is on the record as saying that he thought that Vicki looked hot during her Carol Burnette years. I think he mentioned it on that MF reunion on Vicki’s talk show.

I think I like the later seasons where it focuses just on the main characters without all the cousins and aunts.