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I died of boredom in Genoa City, part II

Continued from the last thread, since Part One is almost full

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by Anonymousreply 350January 28, 2023 8:55 PM

JaBottom is engaged now

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by Anonymousreply 1December 21, 2022 3:05 AM




by Anonymousreply 2December 21, 2022 3:23 AM

MM needs to get married so Swicklor can hang out together again and not raise suspicion.

by Anonymousreply 3December 21, 2022 3:59 AM

As I said in another thread....

JaBottom is STRAIGHT????!?!?!????

No way.

by Anonymousreply 4December 21, 2022 4:35 AM

His insta always made him seem sad and lonely (and probably pining for Swickard). This girl popped up out of nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 5December 21, 2022 9:26 AM

Oh look. NuNoah and Allie have become another worthlessly boring couple. How does Y&R manage to do this year after year? (Writer after writer?)

by Anonymousreply 6December 21, 2022 5:34 PM

Mealor has been eating this girl’s pussy for awhile now. Sorry, fags. Mealor and Swickard are totally STRAIGHT. Somewhere, Alan Sarapa is crying.

by Anonymousreply 7December 21, 2022 9:04 PM

Y&R seems to deliberately cast the flattest, most expressionless younger actors. I can only assume it's done on purpose so that Hans, Aunt Jack and Nikki aka Tits McGee aren't outacted by them.

Even The Staff has lost her edge. She is truly There For The Mortgage Payment. We lost Gina Tognoni for THIS?

by Anonymousreply 8December 21, 2022 11:20 PM

So when is the Tucker, Jeremy, and Daniel three-way? .. After all, they're all staying in THE EXACT SAME HOTEL ROOM .. lol.

Hilarious because Room 405 (Jeremy), Room 406 Tucker), and Room 407 (Daniel) are all in the same place in the exterior hallway and all have the same (corner) view from rear window in the room. The only thing the set people are changing inside the room now is the painting in the small sitting area.

They might as well rename the Grand Phoenix, Genoa City's Motel 6.

by Anonymousreply 9December 22, 2022 1:03 AM

Meanwhile, GH has multiple restaurants, kitchens, a stable, a roof top pool in the summer...

Y&R doesn't even try.

I think Bill Bell hired some bad actors over the years but he wrote so much story for them, and the actors showed up and played it every day that fans didn't always notice how bad the actors were.

Noah and Allie are no Grant Aleksander or Lisa Brown but they have no story either.

WRITE SOMETHING. That'll hide their not-so great acting, which I don't think is actually all that bad.

by Anonymousreply 10December 22, 2022 6:36 AM

The set budget has been repeatedly slashed over the years in order to pay the veteran actors to stay.

by Anonymousreply 11December 22, 2022 7:09 AM

Did they do away with the lobby of the Grand Phoenix? It seemed like everything happened there for about two years. I was shocked that they still had Lola's apartment set to use for Chelsea.

Do Kevin and Chloe live in the servant's quarters at Chancellor mansion, or are the bunking with Lauren and Michael at the penthouse?

by Anonymousreply 12December 22, 2022 9:28 AM

R12 Around the time Chance and Abby were going to get married, they made a point of saying Kevin, Chole, and their two kids were moving out of the Chancellor Estate. At some point, Chance told Abby that Esther was going with them, prompting him to suggest that he and Abby live there. Don't ask where the others moved to, though, I really don't think we know .. lol!

by Anonymousreply 13December 22, 2022 9:38 AM

Thanks R13 . It's the little things that stand out. For some reason I thought Esther's inheritance from Katherine was contingent on her staying at the mansion. $20k per month, or something unseemly like that. No biggie, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 14December 22, 2022 9:45 AM

The guy who plays Noah is so dull. Mopey all the time. No wonder he got taken off contract.

by Anonymousreply 15December 22, 2022 12:42 PM

Dumb Dylan has been pouting because everyone at SON was making fun of Josh Griffith. Poor Dumb Dylan.

Dumb Dylan is also sad because Mark Grossman turned him down. Bummer

by Anonymousreply 16December 22, 2022 2:19 PM

Genoa City needs to have a big flood and wipe out half the residents. We really never need to see a whole lot of them ever again: Michael and Kevin, Chloe, Chelsea, Lauren, and a few others, for starters.

by Anonymousreply 17December 22, 2022 4:24 PM

I need Ron Carlivati to write this show so Carmine's twin will come to GC and finish the job of fucking Lauren and Fen, but denying Michael, thus driving him to suicide.

by Anonymousreply 18December 22, 2022 7:03 PM

Is it wrong to hope that the tree lights short circuit and cause a fire in the cabin that kills Jabottom, Summer, Diane and Harrison?

by Anonymousreply 19December 22, 2022 7:13 PM

R18 I don't see Carlivati being the right fit for Genoa City.

btw - There's no reason for Carmine to have a twin. He's not dead. It was revealed that the authorities faked his death and put him in witness protection after he agreed to turn state's evidence against some mobster they were after. .. We saw LaBladwin track Carmine down and take a photo of him holding a newspaper with the current date on it in order to clear FenMo of murder charges. .. And a return would be entirely believable, since we later heard that the mobster Carmine helped put away was murdered in prison, so there's no real reason why witness protection would still be required.

Carmine lives! .. And he's definitely among my top characters to mount a return.

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by Anonymousreply 20December 22, 2022 8:34 PM

Dear gawd in heaven! SOD is using BrendaD's face filters on their covers now!

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by Anonymousreply 21December 22, 2022 8:57 PM

I've noticed for the last few years that Lauren has become an angry bitch. What caused this change in character?

by Anonymousreply 22December 23, 2022 2:27 AM

Lauren was always a bitch, r22.

by Anonymousreply 23December 23, 2022 2:50 AM

When Kay died, the writers should have (but had no interest in) re-defined who was in the house.

Put Jill and Esther in there; have Nina move in. Pit Devon and Mac against each other in some kind of inheritance battle.

But instead they moved Billy in there and painted the place battleship blue/gray.

Soaps need writers who love the shows, love the characters...

by Anonymousreply 24December 23, 2022 2:59 AM

Gee. I wonder what's causing Sally not to want to drink coffee tonight.

by Anonymousreply 25December 23, 2022 3:01 AM

Dumb Dylan is butt hurt because not everyone loves Josh Griffith like he does.

by Anonymousreply 26December 23, 2022 3:17 AM

Y&R really does have a problem writing for the younger characters. The show did not do anything with Moses and Faith. They did not do anything much with Mattie, Charlie, and Reed. One of the oldest tricks in the book is to have a couple who is torn apart by a third party--and working to find their way back to each other. The problem with Allie and Noah is that they were thrown together so abruptly that it doesn't matter if someone else comes along to tear them apart. They don't feel like a couple that's worth rooting for. And I really don't care about Noah and Audra's past relationship in London.

by Anonymousreply 27December 23, 2022 3:30 AM

[quote] The problem with Allie and Noah is that they were thrown together so abruptly that it doesn't matter if someone else comes along to tear them apart

Kyle and Summer redux

by Anonymousreply 28December 23, 2022 3:35 AM

It also doesn't help that Allie and Noah have zero chemistry.

by Anonymousreply 29December 23, 2022 3:42 AM

R29 Also Kyle and Summer redux.

Apparently just pushing two people together is supposed to do all the work of chemistry. Same with Abby and nuChance.

Abby and Devon fucking is at least somewhat interesting.

by Anonymousreply 30December 23, 2022 3:49 AM

Chance and Noah: that's the couple they should have pushed.

by Anonymousreply 31December 23, 2022 4:03 AM

How did Lily have Dru and Malcolm as birth parents and not inherit one ounce of personality? Has she had a boyfriend of color on the show?

by Anonymousreply 32December 23, 2022 9:33 AM

[quote] How did Lily have Dru and Malcolm as birth parents and not inherit one ounce of personality?

Seriously. Her long tenure boggles my mind.

by Anonymousreply 33December 23, 2022 3:04 PM

Is this Christmas baby shit a fucking joke? How much worse can Y&R get?

by Anonymousreply 34December 23, 2022 5:52 PM

It was a new low, even for this shit show

by Anonymousreply 35December 23, 2022 6:53 PM

A holiday message from CBS Daytime:

Greetings Y&R viewers!

In case you missed it:

The Y&R characters known as Tessa & Mariah are MARRIED.

Yes, they are WIVES.

That's two women (plural) who happen to be WIFE & WIFE.

And as a MARRIED couple they will be doing MARRIED things just like any other MARRIED couple.

We know you will love our happily MARRIED WIVES -- yes, both of them -- just as much as we do!

by Anonymousreply 36December 23, 2022 8:53 PM

What Christmas Baby Shit?

by Anonymousreply 37December 23, 2022 8:54 PM

It's too dreadful to even waste time explaining it.

by Anonymousreply 38December 23, 2022 9:35 PM

R32 They started to develop a relationship between Lily & Tyler Michaelson. But the nutso Lane stans weren't having it and bashed Tyler (and Redaric) constantly.

Part of the story had to do with Tyler's history, where they let it be known that he'd previously been in a serious relationship with a woman who very much resembled Lily. This woman's name was "Mariah."

At that point, "Mariah" was not supposed to be this pale redhead played by Camryn Grimes. We'd already seen part of Mariah's body in a flashback or two, and she had the complexion and body of Christal Khalil. One rumor was that CK was going to play a double role, or they were still looking for an actress who resembled her.

In any event, around this same time, McDaniel (CBS) wanted Grimes back on contract, and the show needed some kind of entrance story, so they quickly changed things and had her become Tyler's "Mariah." (JFP tried to sell the lie that this had been the plan all along .. lol!) Needless to say, Camryn and Redaric had zero chemistry. The whole thing was quickly dropped. Redaric was soon written out; thereby putting the kibosh on anything more between Tyler and Lily.

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by Anonymousreply 39December 23, 2022 10:10 PM

Question of those of you who keep up with the character histories:

The carnival childhood story that Sally told Nick about on Thursday's show, did that jive with the Sally character's history that was established on B&B? Or was this a retcon for Y&R purposes?

by Anonymousreply 40December 23, 2022 11:11 PM

Tessa and Mariah are the WORST pairing ever on Y&R. Tessa has the most annoying nasally delivery and Mariah is just a fat blob. Ugh. And Josh Griffith is going to be the sole show runner???????? As our dear beloved Jeanne Cooper would say - Dear God in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 41December 23, 2022 11:35 PM

R40 I did a search on the transcripts, and Sally Junior had the following conversation with Gay Saul on B&B in 2017:


Sally: I would give anything for a simple life in The Valley (*). My parents were carnies.

Saul: Stop. No. No, they were not.

Sally: Yep. Yeah, they were. They were in the carnival circuit all over California and Nevada. You name it, we were there.

Saul: So -- so you and Coco, you went with?

Sally: Yeah. Yeah, we traveled all the time when I was young.

Saul: [Scoffs]

Sally: But Coco was obviously still a baby. And then my, uh, parents, they did some sketchy stuff on the side.

Saul: Like what?

Sally: Ran some scams. Rigged some games -- card games. They were always dealing cards. And, uh... that's not the only thing they were dealing.

Saul: Wow.

Sally: They would do anything to make some extra money. That's just how Spectras are. You know how grams always says that Spectras are survivors?

Saul: Mm-hmm.

Sally: Yeah, we're more like swindlers. We come from a long line of very talented con artists.

Saul: I just had no clue that it was that crazy.

Sally: Well, eventually, my parents were unable to care for me and Coco.

Saul: So that's when you moved in with Shirley?

Sally: Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for grams, we would have been thrown into the system.

Saul: Wow, thank goodness for Shirley, huh?

Sally: Yeah, I mean, she tried to give us a really good life. She worked hard at the bakery, she scratched and clawed for every buck. Yeah, and now here we are, turning this place into a knock-off shop.

Saul: Well, there's nothing wrong with that.

Sally: We come from generations of hustlers, years and years of scammers, and then out pops Coco. She's like this angel baby, the most innocent little girl that you have ever met in your life. And thinking of taking advantage of her... I don't know. I don't know. Maybe this is her fate. Maybe she is destined to become one of us.

by Anonymousreply 42December 23, 2022 11:40 PM

Thanks r42.

by Anonymousreply 43December 24, 2022 12:55 AM

Does Town Mattress Sharon keep a log of all the men she sleeps with?

by Anonymousreply 44December 26, 2022 6:23 PM

Y&R is horrible.

Horrible message sent with mental health, sexual assault of men, story telling.


by Anonymousreply 45December 26, 2022 6:29 PM

Putting Dull Devon and Boredway together at least consolidates the fast-forward material.

If these two get together, it would present the perfect opportunity to just write them both out to New York, or Paris, or Norfolk, happy and settled, with their kid.

by Anonymousreply 46December 26, 2022 8:14 PM

Where will Sharon and Chance fuck? The countertop at Crimson Lights?

Sharon appears to live in that coffee shoppe now. And since Chance moved out of the Chancellor Estate, one images he now sleeps in the backseat of his police-issued vehicle.

by Anonymousreply 47December 26, 2022 9:02 PM

I love Michael Damian's Danny. He is the gayest man that never gayed. He looks great.

I hate Phyllis.

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by Anonymousreply 49December 28, 2022 7:12 AM

Never liked Danny - never thought he was cute then, and he looks like a troll doll now.

If only I'd gotten to see inside Thom Bierdz' pants back in the day.....

by Anonymousreply 50December 28, 2022 1:55 PM

Christian Le Blanc was injured!

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by Anonymousreply 51December 28, 2022 5:27 PM

He won't be able to jack off for a while!

by Anonymousreply 52December 28, 2022 5:30 PM

Chrissy wrote:

[quote] "NO WORRIES I am home and doing well.

IOW, there's nothing wrong with his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 53December 28, 2022 6:46 PM

Danny is even uglier!

by Anonymousreply 54December 28, 2022 10:22 PM

Why does Danny's head so BIG?

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by Anonymousreply 55December 28, 2022 10:29 PM

Damian would look so much better if he didn’t dye his hair.

by Anonymousreply 56December 28, 2022 11:47 PM

[quote]Damian would look so much better if he didn’t dye his hair.

So, true. It's so obviously dyed and looks so unnatural.

Even worse, his TV son has gray hairs, yet he has jet black hair.

by Anonymousreply 57December 28, 2022 11:55 PM

We'd need to know if Brian Hamilton has gone gray.

by Anonymousreply 58December 28, 2022 11:57 PM

Little Connie has quite the crush on Billy.

by Anonymousreply 59December 29, 2022 5:41 PM

When are they going to reveal that Connor is trans?

by Anonymousreply 60December 29, 2022 6:01 PM

Chloe's Paradise Island chest armor is quite a look.

by Anonymousreply 61December 29, 2022 6:14 PM

The two gay guys in the background when Traci & Danny started crooning Auld Lang Syne appear to be our token gay couple of 2022.

Maybe they're supposed to be "Troy and Dean" and part of the returns celebrating the show's 50th Anniversary .. lol!

(Click to enlarge.)

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by Anonymousreply 62December 29, 2022 9:22 PM

Michael was REALLY happy to see Danny.

by Anonymousreply 63December 29, 2022 9:36 PM

With what little they give him, melodramatic Chrissy is always playing to the back row of the balcony.

by Anonymousreply 64December 29, 2022 9:50 PM

R64 is right. He's a nice friendly guy who gives a shout out to the health care workers that took care of him; he has several daytimers from Y&R co-stars to Finola Hughes wishing him well.

Many ask what happened, what's wrong, what's your injury -- and he never answers.

Always leave 'em wanting more, I suppose.

It must be EXHAUSTING being around him in a regular basis and dear God, would you want to be there when the laughter stops.

That's mean, I know, but I've had people who blast out all that energy and attention in your direction. But it's never really sincere and it sucks when it stops.

by Anonymousreply 65December 29, 2022 10:33 PM

Yeah, right. I know it's a "classic."

But seriously? The Masquerade Ball, AGAIN?

And it's the holidays. They should have gone with one of the ancient, Christmas miracle shows.

by Anonymousreply 66December 30, 2022 6:50 AM

Michael was very happy to see Danny wasn't he?? Seeing Tracy, Lauren and Danny brought back good memories and I loved that Danny called Christine Cricket

by Anonymousreply 67January 1, 2023 9:36 PM

LOL that ball does nothing but highlight how long most of those hacks have been playing those parts

by Anonymousreply 68January 1, 2023 9:37 PM

Christian seems very well liked in the soap community.

by Anonymousreply 69January 1, 2023 10:09 PM

Chrissy is like Miss Popularity of the Daytime World Pageant!

(Otherwise known as that effusive gay guy who's always *on*.)

by Anonymousreply 70January 2, 2023 12:10 AM

Didn't they age Faith to finally have a relatable teen heroine? And she's gone, like Cousin Reed, Lily's twins and the son to be back to London Noah and that Asian girl. Get some balls Y&R and do a real gay sl. Nobody is invested in Mariah and Tessa. Make Faith a Greta Thunburger type who calls Victor out for his shit. Noah screams gay.

by Anonymousreply 71January 2, 2023 12:32 AM

He's extremely well liked. But he's like a butterfly, flying from one person to the next, never landing long enough to establish anything lasting.

You FEEL like he's your BFF.

But ... he's not.

by Anonymousreply 72January 2, 2023 1:49 AM

[quote] ... never landing long enough to establish anything lasting.

While he seems to flit from here to there on social media and often comes off like an overexposed teenager on Tik-Tok, I don't think I'd go that far.

He's been with the husband for nearly three decades now. He's also very close to his Louisiana family and friends. The photos and clips of his big 60th birthday gala down in New Orleans showed that. Plus, there are gay couples based down there whom he and Sid have been socially-tight with for years (e.g. husbands Bryan Batt/Tom Cianfichi and David Bernard-Charlie Urstadt to name a couple). And besides "their children" (three dogs and a cat), they both throw themselves into lengthy, detail-oriented home renovation projects of historically significant properties. That appears to be a shared passion. And unlike some daytime actors who seem to flounder when their airtime becomes scant or nil, he immediately pivoted to his other longtime passion: his art.

Beyond his frenetic social media persona, I'd say all of those relationships and activities in his 'other life' are lasting, long-term constants in his life that he's engendered.

by Anonymousreply 73January 2, 2023 9:50 PM

Relax R73 , or should I say Christian. No one here is mad at you.

by Anonymousreply 74January 2, 2023 9:55 PM

Just because a camera isn't in CLB's asshole every day doesn't make him aloof.

by Anonymousreply 75January 2, 2023 11:10 PM

H R74, half way through I though is this Christian?

I don't think he'd stay long enough.

R72, here and I sit corrected; R73 is quite correct. He has a long running marriage/relationship with Sid, the husband. I've never heard of any cheating on either side. Thes same can't be said for most actors.

No, I more meant how he buddies up to the flavor of the month in terms of new actors; he's all over social with them and then if that actor goes, he's on to the next one.

He's a little like Dickie in the Talented Mr. Ripley; when he shines his light on you, you feel like you're the only other person in the world and then when it goes away you're like ...huh? (That's not the right quote exactly but that's the gist of it.)

I've met him briefly and after, a mutual friend used the butterfly analogy. You can't let people like that get too close to you in show biz. You have to know it's not real or sincere except in that moment.

Not a bad guy. Just bad for some people.

by Anonymousreply 76January 3, 2023 1:22 AM

How many lines did Sharon Case do in her dressing room before filming today's ep?

by Anonymousreply 77January 3, 2023 6:03 PM

CRICKET >> Is there SOMEONE special in your life?

DANNY >> Well, umm, I, uhh, I've been seeing SOMEONE. .. It's uhh, ahem. it's, uhh, casual. .. I mean, you know .. given my schedule I don't really know where it's going. .. I guess time will tell. .. But I guess my life [my hole] is full right now.


So with that non-specific "someone" talk, it appears they've left the door open for Danny to finally come out and announce he's found the alpha top of his dreams!

by Anonymousreply 78January 3, 2023 9:12 PM

I just happened to catch Danny and Christine’s scenes yesterday. They both whisper talk.

by Anonymousreply 79January 3, 2023 9:19 PM

Danny and Cricket are the super couple we need! The new Nikki and Victor.

by Anonymousreply 80January 3, 2023 10:06 PM

Did Michael Damian piss someone off in the makeup department or lighting crew?

He looked about 10 years older today than he did last week.

by Anonymousreply 81January 3, 2023 10:43 PM

Cryptkeeper Romalatti

by Anonymousreply 82January 3, 2023 11:47 PM

When did Lauralee realize MD was never gonna marry her? Is that why Daddy switched her to the 14 years older than her, DOUGIE??

by Anonymousreply 83January 4, 2023 12:40 AM
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by Anonymousreply 84January 4, 2023 1:40 AM

He’s now got a face for voiceovers (radio)…

by Anonymousreply 85January 4, 2023 1:46 AM

Miss Damian's wig scares the children

by Anonymousreply 86January 4, 2023 4:57 AM

Will international recording superstar Danny cross paths with billionaire music mogul wunderkind Devon?

Will they combine their super powers to finally make Nikki's Concerto in Chancellor Park a reality?

by Anonymousreply 87January 4, 2023 10:23 AM

I didn't watch Y&R back then. I bet the Phyl/Cricket/Danny triangle was entertaining. Did Stafford play her as nuts as she does now?

by Anonymousreply 88January 4, 2023 12:29 PM

Also, I enjoyed the conversation b/t Nick and Lilly. How much older is he SUPPOSED to be than her?

by Anonymousreply 89January 4, 2023 12:30 PM

R88, at one point she ran Cricket down with a car. And that was here in grudge phase. Danny had gone off to a permanent tour circuit of Puerto Vallarta, Palm Springs, Mykonos and Provincetown. I mean, explain that?

by Anonymousreply 90January 4, 2023 1:38 PM

I could have told you all that Danny's as queer as a cat fart years ago.

He may be cute. But I'm.....bigger!

by Anonymousreply 91January 4, 2023 2:28 PM

[quote]Genoa City needs to have a big flood and wipe out half the residents. We really never need to see a whole lot of them ever again: Michael and Kevin, Chloe, Chelsea, Lauren, and a few others, for starters.

Phyllis is at the top of my list. I have never liked her. I mostly remember her talking Daniel's babysitter Joni's ear off as they both stood facing the audience. Was that a Bill Bell technique? I don't recall our Midwestern Marvels not facing each other while speaking with each other.

And there were her nasty bitchcunt from hell scenes with Drucilla. I loved Drucilla, and would love it if she could come back and get rid of Phyllis once and for all.

by Anonymousreply 92January 4, 2023 2:38 PM

Phyllis and Sheila were fun bitches but to see those women in their late 20s/early 30s was interesting. To see them now is just sad and desperate.

The inability to let go of some older, played out characters has really hobbled all the soaps, both defunct and still existent. I like history too, but sometimes these shows hold on to characters with no story way longer than needed.

by Anonymousreply 93January 4, 2023 2:52 PM

That's why I always thought Gina worked in the role. Her Phyllis retained some of the raw wildness, but she was a grown up and they largely wrote her as one.

by Anonymousreply 94January 4, 2023 3:55 PM

Gina was so good as Phyllis.

by Anonymousreply 95January 4, 2023 4:25 PM

GINA was a better actress. And prettier, younger, less loud, no mugging......I could go on and on.

by Anonymousreply 96January 4, 2023 5:00 PM

Gina is to Phyllis what Jess Walton is to Jill and Michelle is what Brenda Dickson was to Jill.

by Anonymousreply 97January 4, 2023 6:53 PM

R97 Have another cocktail, honey.

by Anonymousreply 98January 4, 2023 9:06 PM

Whatever she's become privately, I get the feeling Brenda Dickson just delivered Jill as directed. She played her much differently in her first go and in the early going of her return. She started wood chippering the scenery after the divorce from John Abbott, but even Clare Lawrence could tell you when the change in direction happened.

by Anonymousreply 99January 4, 2023 9:34 PM

[quote] Also, I enjoyed the conversation b/t Nick and Lilly. How much older is he SUPPOSED to be than her?

R89 The year Lily was born (1995), Nick was an 18-year old virgin getting his hole primed with spit by The Wartman in prison.

But seven years later, they SORASed Lily to 14 when she returned from Europe in 2002, so they added about seven additional years to her age.

Except for during the time when they egregiously aged Lily's twins to teenagers, Khalil has basically played her real-life age in the role. Joshua Morrow as well. She's currently 35. He's 48. btw, Morrow is actually three years younger than Khalil's long-term, ex-screen partner, Daniel Goddard (Cane). Meanwhile, Jason Thompson (Billy)is 46, yet looks older than Morrow. (ftr, Billy is only supposed to be two years older than Lily as he was born in 1993.)

I remember viewers noticed that Khlalil and Morrow worked well together during some make-believe, fantasy sequence several years agp. (I actually think they were shown to be married?) Anyway, they had a hot kiss and some viewers were calling for the characters to hook-up for real, saying they looked good together.

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by Anonymousreply 100January 4, 2023 9:42 PM

Wherever we were in the time continuum in 1995, Nicolas was born in 1988 so he’s only a few years older in some dimension…

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by Anonymousreply 101January 4, 2023 10:11 PM

Jason is getting the same Cryptkeeper treatment as MD. They both look like hell.

by Anonymousreply 102January 4, 2023 10:52 PM

Funny how when Billy was born (1993), the story was that Jack and his sisters were an entire generation older than him. John was done having kids, and Jill seduced him with martinis before he could have the vasectomy. He even wanted Jill to terminate the pregnancy.

With JT in the role, Billy now looks like their slightly younger brother.

by Anonymousreply 103January 4, 2023 11:55 PM

R103, Jason Thompson is one of my favorite actors and a truly nice guy.

He is miscast as Billy Abbott. Chuck Pratt asked him at the Emmys if he wanted to come over to Y&R; Chuck, who had no idea what Y&R was or where it should go. Jason, wanting a better deal at a more secure show (maybe) jumped ship.

AT GH, fans were not going to let go of 'Scrubs' easily so he was in a lose/lose.

However, he was much better as Patrick, the doting dad to Emma.

Patrick was a welcome breath of fresh air after all the mobster leading men on GH -- Sonny, Jason.

He looks like Fred MacMurray, he's aged. He should go back to playing Patrick.

The podcasts, the moaning over Delia...forgiving Chelsea for raping him...it's all so boring and dull and stupid.

by Anonymousreply 104January 5, 2023 12:02 AM


100% agree... he just is not Billy

by Anonymousreply 105January 5, 2023 12:06 AM

Weirdly, Jason T has started to look more and more like Peter Bergman.

He really couldn't be at GH much longer - especially since fat Kim Mc doesn't want to act any more.

by Anonymousreply 106January 5, 2023 1:57 AM

[quote] He looks like Fred MacMurray, he's aged.

LOL! .. I've thought the same thing about him!

And even after six long years now, they keep trying to sell the notion that he's Fuck-Up Billy, and "Fred MacMurray Billy" just doesn't read fuck-Up.

by Anonymousreply 107January 5, 2023 2:08 AM

LOL Aunt Jack and Jabottom fretting and wringing their hands over Diane's "safety" is so overwrought that it's hilarious. The only way the tedious Diane storyline pays off is if she's actually there to grift the Abbotts. Why bring back a devious character like that just to play grandmother to that odious Child of the Corn Harrison?

by Anonymousreply 108January 5, 2023 3:36 AM

Maria Bell NEVER should have killed off Diane and CBS Daytime never should have forced her to hire Maura as Diane; totally miscast. Walters is younger than Donnelley and West is younger than Walters.

Ironically, casting a non fat fuck up frat boy as Billy could have endangered Bergman since Thompson's Billy is just a young Bergman/Jack.

The show's a mess. Phyllis is an idiot for bringing Stark to town after everyone told her not to.

The show needs to have Tara come back and sue for custody, using the Abbotts' sins against them.

by Anonymousreply 109January 5, 2023 7:12 AM

[quote] The show needs to have Tara come back and sue for custody, using the Abbotts' sins against them.

Yeah, The Return of Tara causing trouble seems like Soap 101. I think they'd have to recast Tara, though, since the original actress who played the role was pretty subpar.

If Days doesn't plan on keeping Jessica Serfaty around as the recurring "Sloan Petersen," she'd be a welcome addition to Y&R. I'd say she's been the casting find of 2022. (Although, I can see where Serfaty may not want a contract, soap gig. She appears to make $ as a social media influencer, with her 1 million IG followers and related projects.

by Anonymousreply 110January 5, 2023 7:53 AM

The only Tara they need back is Lipinski to bring back GC's new Head of Surgery, Dr. Marnie Kowalski.

by Anonymousreply 111January 5, 2023 10:59 AM

Devon and Abby are gross.

by Anonymousreply 112January 5, 2023 11:28 AM

Hate to be mean (not really), but that kid playing Dominic is very unfortunate looking. He also seems drugged.

by Anonymousreply 113January 5, 2023 3:18 PM

When Daniel told Phyllis and Danny last week that he'd hit "rock bottom," he should have gone further in his conversation with Lily today and confessed that what he really meant was that things got so bad for him that he went to a seedy motel room, presented hole on Grindr, and bottomed for any anonymous guy who wanted to fuck him. .. He explains that it was both an expression of low self-esteem and a form of self-punishment.

And that's what really sent Heather packing, as it brought up the bad memory of Adam cheating on her with Rafe.

Lily thinks a bit and surmises, "So basically, you went from porn addiction to a form of sex addiction?"

Daniel glumly replies, "Yeah. But my therapist feels it was just a one-time blip, and I'm not in that dark place any longer."

"Well, that's good to hear," Lily continues, "And it's also good that you were at least honest with Heather."

Daniel sighs, "Yeah .. But I was kinda forced into telling her after I came down with monkeypox."

"Hey! Don't beat yourself up!" Lily says. "Monkeypox, chlamydia .. we've all been there!"

History folks!

by Anonymousreply 114January 6, 2023 12:11 AM

Not Rex Sterling!

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by Anonymousreply 116January 9, 2023 9:57 PM

The clever banter between Rex and Kay's dentures used to crack me up.


by Anonymousreply 117January 9, 2023 10:09 PM

Jesus, he looks old. And when I say old I mean looks like shit.

by Anonymousreply 118January 9, 2023 10:42 PM

It's too bad BrendaD left before the Quinn started playing Rex. She and David were plotting the scenario to hire some guy to seduce "the old SOT" LOL! right before her exit.

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by Anonymousreply 119January 9, 2023 11:30 PM

God, that's some bad writing, made worse by the Best Performance By a Termite in Beaded Eveningwear.

by Anonymousreply 120January 9, 2023 11:35 PM

Does anyone know what’s up with Thom Bierdz? He was a regular on Twitter and Instagram, but has posted anything in over a year. I hope he’s okay.

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by Anonymousreply 121January 10, 2023 12:31 AM

R121 He's posted on Fraubook twice in the last hour. Three hours ago, he put a photo up there from the time he and Quinn Redeker came back to the show as "dead" Phillip and Rex telling Kay to stop drinking. He wrote how much he enjoyed working with Quinn (RIP).

by Anonymousreply 122January 10, 2023 3:10 AM

Town mattress Sharon is wearing her sluttiest lipstick for Chance today. You go ho.

by Anonymousreply 123January 11, 2023 5:39 PM

Chance is the only male in town that Sharon hasn't slept with, isn't he?

She's clearly looking to correct that.

by Anonymousreply 124January 11, 2023 5:53 PM

Sharon hasn't gotten 'round to Nate, DuhVon, Kyle, Daniel, Poor Kevvie, or LaBaldwin either.

by Anonymousreply 125January 11, 2023 7:33 PM

Has Sharon bedded Billy yet?

Also hasn't had time to go after Jeremy Stark.

by Anonymousreply 126January 11, 2023 7:55 PM


Real Billy and Sharon did the nasty… he was one of three possibilities of being Faith’s dad

by Anonymousreply 127January 11, 2023 8:47 PM

I hope she sleeps with Nate, DuhVon, Kyle, and Daniel. I don't think any of them were born the first time she married Nick.

by Anonymousreply 128January 11, 2023 9:41 PM

What would revitalize this show? Anything?

by Anonymousreply 129January 12, 2023 6:41 AM

R128 Nate, Daniel, and DuhVon were born prior to Nick and Sharon's first marriage in 1996.

The funny thing about Chance is that the character should actually be about six months older than Nick, since they were both born the same year.

This is the issue with inconsistent soarsing among generations of kids compounded by casting/recasting with younger or older looking actors.

by Anonymousreply 130January 12, 2023 10:10 AM

Sharon is NuKay!

by Anonymousreply 131January 12, 2023 1:13 PM

The funny thing is that Sharon Case is actually six years older than Wilma Jeanne was when Jeff the Stableboy was banging her (age 51 vs. 45).

But back then, Kay was considered OLD OLD OLD .. lol.

by Anonymousreply 132January 12, 2023 7:40 PM

Actors have an age range; once they hit it, they're there for a long time -- if they're lucky.

by Anonymousreply 133January 15, 2023 11:36 PM

I died of boredom just looking at the photo of that tediously generic woman!

by Anonymousreply 134January 15, 2023 11:42 PM

FenMo appears January 25.

Perfect timing since JaBottom and Summer are having issues.

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by Anonymousreply 135January 16, 2023 12:41 AM

why has Y&R failed to give a new young leading man a proper platform and story?

Fenmore, Noah, Moses...Theo....can these guys not handle the material?

Morrow started i 1994 and over the next 3 years Nick fell for Sharon, fought Matt, went to jail for shooting him (innocent), had a prison storyline, got out of jail, married Sharon and was expecting Noah. He was hardly Kevin Bacon or Grant Aleksander in the acting department.

The writers just let these other guys sit there.

by Anonymousreply 136January 16, 2023 3:45 AM

Yeah, minus the guy who played Moses, the actors playing Fenmore, Noah, and Theo are all better than Joshua Morrow was when he first started. .. Same with Shemar Moore who showed up in 1994 too. .. Both of them were pretty green, but Bell stuck with them and played them and their sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 137January 16, 2023 4:56 AM

Moses was Gawd Awful, queerer than a 12 dollar bill. Even Little Dolly Parton's thespian skills couldn't save that storyline, had she been around.

by Anonymousreply 138January 16, 2023 6:01 AM

I agree on Moses but I didn't want to be called racist and so I included Moses.

They should change that name .

But no, Shemar and Joshua were not good actors (I can't believe Shemar beat out Kristoff and Christian Le Blanc in 98 for the Supporting Actor Emmy)

But yes, Bell stuck with them and wrote as if they could act. these writers today can't write so they don't know what to do. when in doubt, fire the last person hired.

by Anonymousreply 139January 16, 2023 7:10 AM

Good god, this "I'll just take a jaunt to Chicago and steal Nicki's necklace," plots is one of the stupidest things this show has done.

by Anonymousreply 140January 16, 2023 5:24 PM

^ And all we get is HEARING about it, before and after the theft occurred.

I wanted to see Mata Hari Jackie sneak in and pull this big heist off.

Of course, then they'd actually have to build a set and hire a couple of dayplayers.

Typical of Griffith's all-talk, no-action writing.

If I want, I can go read a book.

by Anonymousreply 141January 17, 2023 12:52 PM

R139 Oh yeah, because posters in DL soap threads are constantly being called out on their racism.

by Anonymousreply 142January 17, 2023 1:07 PM

Will Aunt "Cat Burgler" Jack still prance around on his moral high horse with Phyllis after committing grand larceny to protect known grifter Diane?

by Anonymousreply 143January 17, 2023 3:21 PM

Dear gawd in heaven.

They hire an older stud like James Hyde, but when Chance comes to search Jeremy's hotel room, they don't even have him shirtless, wrapped in a towel, and still dripping wet from his shower. Instead he's covered up in hotel robe.

I mean, Hyde may not have his "Sam Bennett" physique, but he's still a Hot Daddy.

This team doesn't know how to script sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 144January 17, 2023 10:48 PM

it's almost like they're tryingn to cancel the show but if they truly were I'd think they'd just start canning longtimers like meldoy and peter and eileen...(yeah, eileen's recurring but still)

it's awful; Bill's either laughing or crying up in heaven.

by Anonymousreply 145January 17, 2023 11:03 PM

Apparently the reason Zach Tinker is back on 1/25 is because a whole hour will be dedicated to Snoren Fenmore's 40 years on the show.

by Anonymousreply 146January 18, 2023 1:55 AM

I have never gotten the Tracy Bregman love. She has perpetual stink face, and she's a whiny snot like Melody T-S.

by Anonymousreply 147January 18, 2023 2:17 AM

They should get James into his skimpy wardrobe from his days touring as a dancer with Dead or Alive!

(He loses more clothing as the video goes on. 😉)

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by Anonymousreply 148January 18, 2023 2:51 AM

They should have killed off Lauren and Michael years ago, and had Fen take over with his Brazilian boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 149January 18, 2023 2:51 AM

As a Dead or Alive fan, I own that concert film at R148. It's a mashup of two concerts that occurred in Japan 1987. There are also some interesting outtakes included with the video filmed when they're not onstage. In one, the band is about to go onstage, and Pete mentions that it's "James birthday" implying he's got a very special 'gift' for him. The sexual innuendo is pretty obvious. Hyde worked with Pete in other projects besides this. You can spot him in other DOA music videos from the era.

by Anonymousreply 150January 18, 2023 8:06 PM

Before Jeremy is hauled off, he shouts: THIS IS A LOAD OF CRAP !!

Ha ha .. how true!

by Anonymousreply 151January 18, 2023 8:20 PM

R147, not the greatest actress but a sweetheart in real life.

The Lauren/Traci feud back in the day was huge.

by Anonymousreply 152January 18, 2023 8:50 PM

I think Lauren must be the character with the most crazy obsessive types out to kill her in the history of soaps .. lol.

Besides Sheila Carter more than once, she had Shawn Garrett, Rush Carerra, Shephyllis, Sarah Smythe, and Carmine Basco.

Traci should have just sat on her and made her implants explode.

by Anonymousreply 153January 18, 2023 9:24 PM

Many of these veteran characters who get little screen time had very well written, fun, storylines back in the day.

This show has taken so many missteps since then. Someone on another said thread mentioned the retconning of Jill and Katherine’s relationship. That’s a prime example. Phillip III’s return from the dead only to reveal he “died” rather than reveal he’s gay was another stink bomb.

by Anonymousreply 154January 19, 2023 1:25 AM

I gave MAB a pass on her Phillip is gay story, because something had to be done to undo Lathag's prior retcon that said Cane was the real PC3, and the the Phillip we'd known and seen Kay and Jill do battle over was just some anonymous baby. That was the real stink bomb.

by Anonymousreply 155January 19, 2023 3:51 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't Nikki's 'stolen' necklace need to stay in evidence to nail the case against Stark? Aunt Jack said it would put back and Nikki wouldn't miss it. Chance's arrest of Stark was just as stupid, no handcuffs - I would have handcuffed Stark, lol - and he's just ushered out of his room. How are these charges supposed to stick? Who writes this shit??

by Anonymousreply 156January 19, 2023 3:57 AM

The search of Stark's room was stupid. If Chance doesn't have a partner yet, then he should have grabbed a uniformed police officer to go with him. Not only that, police don't just go to a hotel like the Grand Phoenix without first checking in with hotel security and notifying them of what they're doing on the premises with someone from that office accompanying them to the guest's room.

Of course, maybe making Chance look dumb and not following protocol was written on purpose and will be what leads to Stark being released.

by Anonymousreply 157January 19, 2023 4:08 AM

You're both absolutely correct, r156 and r157, but if today is the last time we lay eyes and ears on James Hyde, all is forgiven.

by Anonymousreply 158January 19, 2023 4:11 AM

This is the worst Y&R has ever been.

Then again, writing JT as a wife-beater was pretty dumb.

by Anonymousreply 159January 19, 2023 5:31 AM

Being married to Vic-Snoria would turn almost anyone into a wife beater

by Anonymousreply 160January 19, 2023 3:20 PM

But JT in a wife beater and tight white Polo briefs would be just fine!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 161January 19, 2023 3:25 PM

Can CH go back to B&B? What’s this Sally obsession?

by Anonymousreply 162January 19, 2023 4:29 PM

[quote]JT in a wife beater and tight white Polo briefs

Lose the wife beater. Just the briefs. Whose idiocy was responsible for getting rid of JT? I'd long since given up on the show by then.

by Anonymousreply 163January 19, 2023 5:12 PM

Killing off Colleen, and then destroying JT to prop up Ictoria and Victor was just looney.

by Anonymousreply 164January 19, 2023 5:18 PM

Heather and Lucy are coming to Genoa City for a visit.

Does this mean we will also get to see Heather's dad, Paul?

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by Anonymousreply 165January 19, 2023 5:20 PM

[quote] Whose idiocy was responsible for getting rid of JT? I'd long since given up on the show by then.

Luckingbill only came back for that abuse story. (Boy's got bigger and better things to do than this silly soap.) .. As I recall, I believe he said something about the dark nature of it is why he signed on for Mal Young's story. He wanted to play something different.

At least JT's volatility, anger, and violence was explained by his brain injury that occurred when he was previously electrocuted. That fit with past story. And after it was all over and he'd had the surgery, he didn't try to excuse-away what he'd done. Instead, JT returned to his more 'noble' persona and simply plead guilty without trial, accepting his prison sentence.

I hope JT has found a hot twink at Walworth.

by Anonymousreply 166January 19, 2023 6:22 PM

edit ^ Luckinbill

by Anonymousreply 167January 19, 2023 6:23 PM

I just saw Bloom on a repeat of her season of Vanderpump Rules. I figured she was done after that.

by Anonymousreply 168January 19, 2023 7:23 PM

It was pretty obvious that something was going on with Bloom towards the end of her run on Y&R. And then her sudden dismissal was odd with her agent making some (excuse) statement.

Her admission on Vanderpump Rules of being a total cokehead while on Y&R explained a lot.

But it's not like this soap is unwilling to give actors who have gone to rehab and are sober a second chance. Look at Wilma Jeanne.

by Anonymousreply 169January 19, 2023 8:15 PM

[quote] Does this mean we will also get to see Heather's dad, Paul?

They'll probably just do the same thing they did when Danny recently visited, where it was mentioned that "Paul and Christine were on ski trip," then Danny asked about Paul when he met Cricket.

IOW, they might just have Heather meet with Daniel to discuss the status of their relationship (i.e. he's not planning on returning to Savannah) and to drop off Lucy. Then, Heather will say something about having dinner with Paul & Christine before she leaves town.

The next time we see Heather, it will probably by at Lucy's wedding or Paul's memorial service.

by Anonymousreply 170January 19, 2023 9:03 PM

Would Doug Davidson do a one or two day return? My understanding is he won’t.

by Anonymousreply 171January 19, 2023 11:25 PM

The scene I want to see is Heather walking into Society, seeing Adam at the bar, then going over to him asking, "Fuck any hot Latinboyz lately?"

Bonus points if the bartender that day is a sexy Cuban who looks over and licks his lips.

by Anonymousreply 172January 20, 2023 12:45 AM

Doesn't he have a different face from the last time she saw him? (Literally....wasn't that the whole thing with Justin H's Adam?)

by Anonymousreply 173January 20, 2023 12:52 AM

Some women had a meltdown over Adam sleeping with Rafe to keep him from blabbing some secret of Adam's that Rafe had come upon.

Meltdown. He wouldn't do that!

I tried to say he was so Machievellian that he would have done anything!

But he's not gay!

Ok, I said; So, he's straight so...he'd sleep with Esther?

"Well, no, he wouldn't do that."

by Anonymousreply 174January 20, 2023 6:23 AM

R173 When you have an ex-fiancé who's been presumed dead no less than three times since you last dated him - yet somehow keeps coming back to life - you might check his social media from time-to-time .. lol.

by Anonymousreply 175January 20, 2023 7:28 AM

This Jeremy Stark/jewelry theft story is one of the worst things I've ever witnessed on daytime. I'd rather revisit the reliquary.

by Anonymousreply 176January 20, 2023 5:59 PM

LOL it really is. It's like it was concocted by a fifth grader. Sally being pregnant is a close second.

by Anonymousreply 177January 20, 2023 8:09 PM

From Next Week's Preview ....

So who's the hot blond guy accompanying FenMo at Lauren's party?

Is Fen going to take the opportunity to introduce everyone to his boyfriend at the gathering?

And is that Corbin Fisher Tripp from DOOL? He looks like Lucas Adams.

I made a gif and slowed it down. Click for full-screen to show him standing to the left.

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by Anonymousreply 178January 20, 2023 9:19 PM

I don't recognize that set. Did they build it special so Chapman could chew it to sawdust on her one-day appearance?

by Anonymousreply 179January 20, 2023 9:27 PM

R179 I think the set is basically the Grand Phoenix reception area, perhaps scaled back and/or shot from a different perspective. You can tell that the fireplace and several decorative elements are the same. See old photo below. Once Phyllis left the hotel biz and after Noah's Glam Club opened, some were wondering if that set was still going to be around.

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by Anonymousreply 180January 20, 2023 9:58 PM

Thanks R180 . That photo really captures the current essence of Stafford's Phyllis.

by Anonymousreply 181January 20, 2023 10:07 PM

Looking at some screen caps of FenMo's return, the other guy isn't Lucas Adams.

But he is cute, and that suit coat they have him in is totally gay!

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by Anonymousreply 182January 20, 2023 11:14 PM

Instead of shirtless Jeremy we get Aunt Jack in bed with Dianejenkins.

I wonder if he took his sock garters off?

by Anonymousreply 183January 21, 2023 3:03 AM

The torrid romance of Jack and Diane will save the show!!!

by Anonymousreply 184January 21, 2023 3:06 AM

Peter Bergman will be 70 this year and I swear the show writes for him like he's still 50.

by Anonymousreply 185January 21, 2023 3:56 AM

they're wrapping up this Jeremy Stark, for lack of a better word, 'story, like the last 90 seconds of a Charlie's Angels episode.

I half expect to see David Doyle pop up and say, 'Our client, the real victim in all this is, is very pleased you for bringing her sister's killer to justice.'

Cut to Kris and Tiffany nodding. Kelly forces a half smile.

by Anonymousreply 186January 21, 2023 4:35 AM

Who will be the next fifty/sixty something actor dragged onto the show? I mean, TSJ is staying put so far but Burgi/Newman and James Hyde were in and out.

by Anonymousreply 187January 21, 2023 4:56 AM

Chance lamenting the case to Sharon in the coffee shop has me thinking this isn't over.

How irresponsible and criminal for Jack to set up Jeremy that way. Dude hadn't done anything (yet).

Maybe Will deVries will come on. I heard he screen-tested for Cutter or is it Tucker? against Hyde and Trevor SJ.

by Anonymousreply 188January 21, 2023 5:01 AM

They need to rehier me to tayke the show bak to Nuwber 1!!111

by Anonymousreply 189January 21, 2023 5:23 AM

Y&R did not become No. 1 until I was playing Jill.

by Anonymousreply 190January 21, 2023 6:11 AM

Just think! If Aunt Jack gets arrested for framing Jeremy, he can go to jail and give us his best Susan Hayward from "I Want to Live!"

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by Anonymousreply 191January 21, 2023 9:05 AM

I'll laugh if FenMo comes home with a boyfriend when it should've been Noah first, and after Rikaart has been asking for Kevin to be gay for years.

by Anonymousreply 192January 21, 2023 10:43 AM

I only remember Rikaart suggesting Kevin go gay when the "Harder" material was playing, since he and Chris McKenna had obvious screen chemistry and viewers could imagine Detective Harding pounding Fish's ass. Beyond that interlude, I've always found him very supportive of his female pairings, especially with Emily O'Brien (Jana) and Liz Hendrickson (Chloe).

I still remember this pretty hot slash fiction entry for Harding and Fish. I sort of imagined their hook-up the same way .. lol .. but someone did a really good job of at writing the scene.

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by Anonymousreply 193January 21, 2023 11:43 AM

How did the show get rid of Chris McKenna’s character? He’s an actor I’ve always liked since his Joey Buchanan days on OLTL.

by Anonymousreply 194January 21, 2023 1:34 PM

I think they made him a serial killer. I'm sure Paul Williams shot him up real good.

by Anonymousreply 195January 21, 2023 3:25 PM

In the old days, if a performer popped on screen and jazzed up interest, they'd make room for them on the canvas.

The issue with Y&R is that they won't do that any more, because one of the ancients might get offended the new star is taking their shine. So it will remain a dishwater dull rehash of what has been said before.

Chris McKenna should have had a three year run, but instead, the minute he started to spark onscreen, they made him a killer. No wonder soaps are dying.

by Anonymousreply 196January 21, 2023 3:36 PM

Have the lezzies adopted a kid yet? THAT is the storyline that will bring in viewers by the millions!

by Anonymousreply 197January 21, 2023 4:10 PM

Sharon Case's latest face leads me to believe she has one of those "no grandchildren" clauses in her contract.

by Anonymousreply 198January 21, 2023 5:01 PM

Lucky for Sharon and Melody....two talent free cunts who nevertheless have parlayed their utter lack of measurable talent into 30+ year runs on the top rated soap.

by Anonymousreply 199January 21, 2023 5:27 PM

As if we didn't see this coming.....Victor blackmails Jack into firing Adam when he realizes Jack and Diane did the necklace heist. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

by Anonymousreply 200January 21, 2023 7:46 PM

A third-grader could figure out who did the necklace heist.

by Anonymousreply 201January 21, 2023 8:01 PM

Did everyone catch Miss Connor getting sassy with Johnny? She was making fun of him for being an old, just like a DL'er.

by Anonymousreply 202January 21, 2023 8:05 PM

That's "Crystal" Connor to you, grampie!

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by Anonymousreply 204January 21, 2023 11:22 PM

I hope Cricket remembers to tell Society to serve Spare Ribs & Sauerkraut at Paul's wake.

by Anonymousreply 205January 22, 2023 2:24 AM

They need to bring ME back! I'll take the show BACK to Number 1!

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by Anonymousreply 206January 22, 2023 2:36 AM

When Kevin pulled some shit and was going o be locked up overnight in holding, McKenna played Harding so tenderly towards Kevin; don't worry, he said. I told the guards to look out for you.

I imagine there was some fan fiction where Kevin's about to be raped and Harding comings in and saves him the way Victor did Nick from Shark.

by Anonymousreply 207January 22, 2023 5:09 AM

The only time I liked Kevin was with Harding. So stupid they didn't go there. Then to make Harding the killer....stupid. That was 10 years ago????

by Anonymousreply 208January 22, 2023 6:24 AM

He was - well, is - so, so fucking hot.

But like I said, anyone who isn't one of the Ancient Six is used up and tossed out.

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by Anonymousreply 209January 22, 2023 2:46 PM

Which ones are the ancient six?

by Anonymousreply 210January 22, 2023 2:54 PM

Hans and Melody

Aunt Jack and Staff


Josh M and Sharon. (I suppose we could make it seven and include Boretoria).

by Anonymousreply 211January 22, 2023 2:57 PM

It would have made perfect sense, if Harding had just been one of those gay guys who are 'out' in their personal life, but don't discuss their sexuality at work, especially since he was a police officer.

And they had the perfect set-up for Kevin to discover this when they wrote that little bit about Harding having asked Fish to take care of his pet, "Roscoe," while he was out of town.

Kevin later reported to The Scooby Gang that he thought Roscoe was going to be something like a Doberman or python, but that's when we learned Roscoe had turned out to be - surprise! - a cute little bunny rabbit.

Not only that, but Roscoe also turned out to be a "she," and to Harding's surprise, had baby bunnies while he was gone. .. There were jokes made about this, including something about Harding being confused about the female of the species and his general ignorance about women. .. Noah even snarked to Harding that perhaps his unseen girlfriend named "Lonnie" - who apparently had just dumped the dateless detective - had turned out to be a guy. .. Hmmm.

Instead of that lameness, they should have shown Kevin go to Harding's apartment -- a fashionably-appointed abode, no less! .. And while he was taking care of Roscoe, done some typical Kevin-like snooping around.

That's when Kevin would come across items that made Harding's sexuality perfectly clear: perhaps a framed photo of the gay rugby team that he played for when he lived in Chicago .. a copy of Mark Perry's gay superhero novel, "Hero," on the bookshelf (with an inscription and a "Love Always" from another guy) .. a colorful assortment of designer jockstraps in his dresser drawer .. and that tub of Boy Butter in the nightstand along with several classic DVDs from Raging Stallion, Falcon, and Titan Men studios. .. And right when Kevin is holding the copy of "Trespass 2," Harding would come home early asking. "Wanna watch that one with me, Fish? You might learn a thing or two."

And of course, post-sex, we'd learn Mark asked Kevin to go to his apartment and take care of Roscoe on purpose. .. This was his plan all along.

by Anonymousreply 212January 22, 2023 11:05 PM

I liked that Chris McKenna is not pretty boy handsome, but ruggedly handsome.

by Anonymousreply 213January 22, 2023 11:21 PM

Love that R212. It would have hooked me. I can't stand that she-bitch Kevin is married to on the show.

by Anonymousreply 214January 23, 2023 1:08 AM

Chris McKenna showed peen in KING OF THE ANTS

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by Anonymousreply 215January 23, 2023 1:34 AM

ass too...

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by Anonymousreply 217January 23, 2023 1:37 AM

he's just a GUY, a MAN...Big loss to Y&R.

by Anonymousreply 218January 23, 2023 2:55 AM

[quote] I can't stand that she-bitch Kevin is married to on the show.

It's my understanding that Kevin and the she-bitch aren't actually married.

Recall, Kevin & Chloe married, divorced .. married, divorced .. and were about to get married for the THIRD time, when it was discovered that Chloe had murdered Adam. She ran off in her wedding dress before the ceremony got started. .. Then, after they faked Chloe's own death with her becoming "Helen Jones", we saw Kevin propose to "Helen," but he added that they couldn't actually get married, because it would be too risky.

I believe they just cohabitate, and unless they've mentioned getting hitched in some throwaway line, we've never seen a Wedding No. 3. And looking at them in a screen cap from next week's party for Lauren, I notice that neither of them are wearing wedding rings.

Perhaps there's hope for Kevin yet!

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by Anonymousreply 219January 23, 2023 7:04 AM

The guy walking in with FenMo at Lauren's Gayla is actor, Julian Larach.

His character is being identified by Soap Opera Digest as an employee of Lauren's named "Trey."

As seen below, Mr. Larach's Instagram is gayer than Gay Gayerson. This photo was tagged San Francisco.

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by Anonymousreply 220January 23, 2023 9:35 AM

Having fun in Provincetown....

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by Anonymousreply 221January 23, 2023 9:38 AM

Okay, I was trying to figure out why this guy has over 81K followers on IG.

Turns out he is or was a go-go boy in San Francisco. He also does massage out of WeHo.

There's a 14 page thread on him at [L P S G].

There's clips that posters say are of him getting pounded in other guys' OF videos (face not shown) .

He seems to have a lot of fans.

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by Anonymousreply 222January 23, 2023 12:02 PM

LeBlanc thought it was BYO rent boy to work day.

by Anonymousreply 223January 23, 2023 12:26 PM

Excellent video of his go-go dancing skills. Shake dat ass!

Maybe he'll dance for Lauren at the par-tay.

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by Anonymousreply 224January 23, 2023 7:51 PM

The walk through on Y&R was probably the most dignified work he's done in five years.

by Anonymousreply 225January 23, 2023 8:17 PM

Maybe he can bring some of his 203,000 TikTok followers to Y&R to boost the ratings.

Video about his twin brother...lol.

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by Anonymousreply 226January 23, 2023 10:24 PM

[quote]LeBlanc thought it was BYO rent boy to work day.

Bring Your Own Rent Boy to Work Day is something I can get behind!

by Anonymousreply 227January 23, 2023 10:38 PM

If Chrissy were paying, the guy would be an Alpha (more along the lines of Carrigan, Paevey, Dapper, Vaughan or Palmer-Watkins).

by Anonymousreply 228January 23, 2023 11:21 PM

Devon is a remarkably unlikable character. Please someone make this character a pauper. These 'business' people on the show are a joke. Abby? She is just as unbelievable.

by Anonymousreply 229January 24, 2023 5:59 PM

I'm watching, too, R229 , and it's pretty fucking bad.

by Anonymousreply 230January 24, 2023 6:17 PM

Dull as Devon is, he’s right about this IPO nonsense with Jill.

by Anonymousreply 231January 24, 2023 6:50 PM

Jill is another one. Hairdresser to CEO, that happens all the time. Someone with Jill's high school education couldn't read a balance sheet.

by Anonymousreply 232January 24, 2023 7:35 PM

It was way back in 1980 when Steve Williams suggested to Jill Foster that she use her practical skills and experience from working at Hazel's Beauty Salon and co-managing The Golden Comb with Derek Thurston that she go and apply for a job at Jabot Cosmetics. (Original John and his cosmetics company had just been introduced.)

Jill was able to convince the stuffy old fart that her prior jobs had given her a real-life insight on what women wanted when it came to their makeup and how they wanted to look. John went on to hire Jill as some kind of lower-level marketing assistant where she then gained more on-the-job experience.

Also, RealJack didn't work at the company. Jill learned that John had always hoped his playboy, tennis-bum son would clean up his act and come work at the company, so that he could assume the mantle one day. This was his dream, not Jack's. .. It was actually Jill who sought Jack out and convinced him to come work at Jabot to make his father happy. At the start, Jack only agreed to do this, because he thought he could start something up with Jill, and of course, there were also the bevy of models the company hired. .. Jill took her work at Jabot seriously, while Jack was just there for fun and games.

by Anonymousreply 233January 24, 2023 8:38 PM

Soaps went to business stories to compete with Dallas and Dynasty, but they never came back.

by Anonymousreply 234January 24, 2023 9:00 PM

Spaulding and Lewis business stories could make me stop watching GL for weeks back in the '80s and '90s. I didn't really give a fuck who owned more shares in either company.

by Anonymousreply 235January 24, 2023 9:10 PM

They never knew how to tell business stories well, either, because none of the writers knew a damn thing about how business runs. Poor old Jabot got taken over so many times it was the Brooke Logan of corporations. Look at Succession. Business stories can be exciting dramas, but not on soaps. Granted, it's B team talent so it's unfair to expect much of them.

by Anonymousreply 236January 24, 2023 9:38 PM

Bill Bell relied on business stories more than any other HW.

Bell could write some excellent business stories, as well as some clunkers. But when the were good, they could be great. Some the Newman and Jabot stories could be quite compelling. Others left me rolling my eyes.

Conversely, Agnes Nixon couldn't do business stories. All of the business stories on AMC between Courtlandt Electronics and Chandler Enterprises were ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 237January 24, 2023 9:52 PM

I would suggest a business storyline where we see FenMo begin a relationship with Lauren's assistant, Trey,

But after Fen & Trey have been fucking for awhile, Fen learns that Trey has been forging department store purchase orders for men's high-end, designer underwear and jockstraps. .. Apparently, Trey has two muscle studs on Fenmore's loading dock who intercept these shipments. These are then funneled to Trey's network of international Instahos who sell the purloined undergear on the black market at deeply-discounted prices.

FenMo is then left with the dilemma as to whether to tell Lauren what he's discovered about Trey's illegal operations or just try to ignore it because he's fallen for bad boy Trey. .. As we know, Fen himself is no saint, and going on all-expense paid holidays with Trey to places like Fire Island, Provincetown, South Beach, Tel Aviv, Mykonos, Ibiza, Rio, etc. etc. etc. where all of Trey's sales operatives are located has been quite a bit of fun!

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by Anonymousreply 238January 24, 2023 10:15 PM

Some of the 80s/early 90s business stories were compelling or captivating. The original Jack vs Victor Jabot vs Newman was exciting. It's just lost its flavor the other 893,567,109 times Y&R did that story over and over.

Phillip taking over Spaulding to punish Alan was glorious. But GL also did the "control of the company" so many times. When teen mom/cop Harley became CEO, no one believed it or cared.

By then most shows were locked into what they're locked into now....pulling logs off the wall to burn them for a brief boost, not paying any mind to the house crumbling around them.

by Anonymousreply 239January 24, 2023 10:59 PM

Brooke's takeover of Forrester was brilliant; she'd been dumped by Ridge; ERic wasn't an option; Stephanie was threatening her.

Taking the company was sweet justice.

GL had Kyle take over Lewis Oil so Billy bet the whole company on one oil well coming through, which it failed to do by minutes....

At a big blowout, Reva, whom Billy banned from the company because he thought she'd eff it up, proclaimed, "I wouldn't have bet the entire company on one cockamamie oil well!"

by Anonymousreply 240January 24, 2023 11:02 PM

[quote]Some of the 80s/early 90s business stories were compelling or captivating. The original Jack vs Victor Jabot vs Newman was exciting. It's just lost its flavor the other 893,567,109 times Y&R did that story over and over.

This. Once Bill got the dementia and the writing passed to a series of talents in descent, yeah, been there too many times.

by Anonymousreply 241January 25, 2023 12:01 AM

SPOILER ... well, not really since it seemed obvious just from the preview ....

Just watched the Canadian day-ahead, and yes indeed, Trey is FenMo's BOYFRIEND. (Trey refers to Fen as "the man I love".)

Trey is a buyer at Fenmore's in Nashville. Michael and Lauren know about their son's relationship, but have never met Trey.

Trey considers Lauren an "icon," and is hoping to hear her more about her life. This is the jumping off point for Lauren to recount her character's last 40 years in Genoa City.

by Anonymousreply 242January 25, 2023 12:15 AM

FenMo gets to live his gay life offscreen. This show sucks.

by Anonymousreply 243January 25, 2023 9:29 AM

UGH, I can see it ALL now. "Ohmygawd, you are such an ICON. I just LURVE everything you do. Tell me EVERYTHING" while tripping over purses the entire time.

by Anonymousreply 244January 25, 2023 12:08 PM

She’s basically transformed her face but Tracey really does look great.

by Anonymousreply 245January 25, 2023 5:35 PM

Bregman does look great. This episode, despite the shoddy narrative, is really fun, watching the flashbacks. I started watching Y&R because of Lauren being buried alive (I loved that over the top soap shit) and stayed through the Sheila years. It sucks to be reminded how compelling it was, and how lame and boring it has become.

by Anonymousreply 246January 25, 2023 6:00 PM

Sheila made me go away from the show for years.

by Anonymousreply 247January 25, 2023 6:03 PM

[quote] Bregman does look great.

Just don't touch. Something might crack.

by Anonymousreply 248January 25, 2023 7:01 PM


by Anonymousreply 249January 25, 2023 7:25 PM

I had forgotten what a chipmunk face Lauren used to have

by Anonymousreply 250January 25, 2023 7:34 PM

[quote] I had forgotten what a chipmunk face Lauren used to have.

Those HUGE front teeth!

by Anonymousreply 251January 25, 2023 7:42 PM

[quote] She’s basically transformed her face but Tracey really does look great.

Her face isn't the only thing she transformed. I think she went from a B to an F-cup.

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by Anonymousreply 252January 25, 2023 8:31 PM

I recall when she played Don Craig's teenage daughter, Donna, on Days in the late 70s.

by Anonymousreply 253January 25, 2023 8:39 PM


I loved her as the killer in Happy Birthday To Me

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by Anonymousreply 254January 25, 2023 8:50 PM

Tracey as Donna Temple Craig on Days of Our Lives, circa 1979, when she was 16.

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by Anonymousreply 255January 25, 2023 9:11 PM

Unlike Dee, Tracey wore the ribbon.

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by Anonymousreply 256January 25, 2023 9:24 PM

[quote]Unlike Dee, Tracey wore the ribbon.

Pod people.

by Anonymousreply 257January 25, 2023 9:31 PM

Dee's old snatch can play my grandmother!

by Anonymousreply 258January 25, 2023 9:32 PM

It must have been strange for Donna Temple Craig to have a step-mother who was younger than her.

No wonder she was a troubled teen!

by Anonymousreply 259January 25, 2023 9:36 PM

Oh goodie! .. Another sex scene between Aunt Jack and Dianejenkins. .. Gag.

I was hoping to see Fen & Trey make use of a bathroom stall at The Glam Club.

by Anonymousreply 260January 25, 2023 11:30 PM

R242 R243 Did Fen ever come out onscreen, or did they are least drop hints that he may be at the very least bisexual? I don't watch everyday however I don't recall anything in reference to him being gay, not even a mention. I like it except I feel we got cheated out of a good coming out story.

by Anonymousreply 261January 25, 2023 11:45 PM

Fen didn’t come out onscreen. The actor actually only appeared in a handful of episodes back when they brought him on.

by Anonymousreply 262January 25, 2023 11:55 PM

R262 I didn't think so lol even though I sometimes take breaks from Y&R, I follow along with the storylines and I would've remembered him having a coming out story. If I'm not mistaken I think he was involved with Tessa's younger sister during his last brief stint, or they were hinting at a possible interest between them?

by Anonymousreply 263January 26, 2023 12:16 AM

I liked this episode mostly to see the clip of when Y&R was actually good

by Anonymousreply 264January 26, 2023 12:32 AM

[quote] I like it except I feel we got cheated out of a good coming out story.

A coming out story for FenMo would be quite boring, since NO ONE in The Baldwin-Fisher family would care.

I don't see any "story" beyond a 15 second scene:

MICHAEL >> That's my boy!!

LAUREN >> So Fen, exactly how many of my hot male buyers have you been fucking? .. Did you ever get with Landon in Chicago?

GLORIA >> Well, with a name like "Fenmore," it always seemed like Divine Providence! .. Plus, John would have wanted it that way.

CHLOE >> Seriously, Gloria! .. That's why Kevin and I named our son "Miles."

KEVIN >> If not me, then at least we're keeping it in the family! .. Are they serving munchies at this shindig?

by Anonymousreply 265January 26, 2023 12:33 AM

We need more JaBottom

by Anonymousreply 266January 26, 2023 12:43 AM

[quote] We need more JaBottom .. face down, ass up.


by Anonymousreply 267January 26, 2023 12:54 AM

R265 You have a point 😆 except I think it could've made it interesting by having Fen struggling to accept his sexuality, not necessarily his family or friends having difficulty with it. When Fen was his a teenager he seemed somewhat moody and at times withdrawn so they could've drawn from that, by having him explain how he always felt that he could be gay however he was repressing his feelings for other guys.

by Anonymousreply 268January 26, 2023 12:56 AM

JaBottom and Fen should end up together

by Anonymousreply 269January 26, 2023 12:58 AM

Lachlan Buchanan brought Kyle the gay. He was the real JaBottom.

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by Anonymousreply 270January 26, 2023 1:04 AM

Meant to say "when Fen was a teenager" lol I wonder if they made the decision based on him playing Sonny on DOOL...it would be nice to see Fen and Trey regularly however Y&R has downplayed male on male relationships (like Adam's bisexuality or gay-for-pay situation) in favor of lesbians like Mariah and Tessa. Fen and Trey's smush name could be Frey or Ten lol

by Anonymousreply 271January 26, 2023 1:05 AM

I bet Lachlan has a pretty hole.

And daddy JT should have opened Kyle's hole up and slammed it deep.

by Anonymousreply 272January 26, 2023 1:06 AM

There's another gay man in Genoa City? FINALLY!

Maybe I should drop by to see Chance and scope out the scene.

by Anonymousreply 273January 26, 2023 1:08 AM

R272 JT Hellstrom?

by Anonymousreply 274January 26, 2023 1:08 AM

Are there other JTs in Genoa City?

by Anonymousreply 275January 26, 2023 1:11 AM

R275 I'm not sure that's why I'm asking. There was another John besides John Abbott, who were actually both onscreen at the same time, so just wanted to be sure.

by Anonymousreply 276January 26, 2023 2:22 AM

JT = Jeffrey Todd Helstrom

by Anonymousreply 277January 26, 2023 2:26 AM

[quote] Lachlan Buchanan brought Kyle the gay. He was the real JaBottom.

Rather funny, though, that while Lachlan is openly gay, his Kyle didn't scream gay like JaBottom.

by Anonymousreply 278January 26, 2023 2:39 AM

[quote]Rather funny, though, that while Lachlan is openly gay, his Kyle didn't scream gay like JaBottom.

I completely agree.

by Anonymousreply 279January 26, 2023 2:45 AM

Something about Michael Mealor’s mouth just screams that he gives good head (to men).

by Anonymousreply 280January 26, 2023 11:51 AM

More shirtless JaBottom! More shirtless JaBottom!

by Anonymousreply 281January 26, 2023 12:15 PM

He sucks good and swallows too!

Ahem....so I hear.

by Anonymousreply 282January 26, 2023 2:45 PM

Now that Summer is being played by an out actress, they should refashion Kyle's relationship with his wife and reveal it to be an open, double-lavender marriage with a simple don't-ask-don't-tell policy.

by Anonymousreply 283January 26, 2023 9:55 PM

Do Hans and JaBottom get along behind the scenes?

by Anonymousreply 284January 26, 2023 11:27 PM

Since JaBottom isn't one of The Newmans, he'd probably have to be there at least 10 years, before Hans didn't think he was some new hire whose name he should try to remember.

by Anonymousreply 285January 26, 2023 11:50 PM

When Aunt Jack and Hans' old bratwurst finally die off, I think the future of Y&R is JaBottom and Adam

by Anonymousreply 286January 27, 2023 12:19 AM

Does anybody actually like Nikki? Does she have any positive qualities?

by Anonymousreply 287January 27, 2023 12:23 AM

The previous Kyle, Lachlan Buichanan, once mentioned this about Hans in an interview:

[quote] I mean, Eric Braeden [Victor Newman] has been on the show for years, and he sometimes still stops and goes, "I forget, whose son are you again?" And I said, "Jack Abbott," and he goes, "Ah, right, right."

by Anonymousreply 288January 27, 2023 12:25 AM

Have Victor and Esther ever fucked?

by Anonymousreply 289January 27, 2023 12:30 AM

Nikki's most positive quality is that she can multi-task.

I once came home early from work and found her entertaining three guys at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 290January 27, 2023 12:32 AM

One of the all time greatest scenes in Y&R history is when Diane beat the crap out of Nikki in the Jabot boardroom.

by Anonymousreply 291January 27, 2023 12:34 AM

R291 I agree. And Diane banging Nikki's head on the table is priceless. ONE, TWO, THREE times.

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by Anonymousreply 292January 27, 2023 12:42 AM

That was the best Diane - the OG!

by Anonymousreply 293January 27, 2023 12:44 AM

The Cast Photo for the 50th Anniversary

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by Anonymousreply 294January 27, 2023 12:56 AM

Not the same without Granny Cooper

by Anonymousreply 295January 27, 2023 1:04 AM

r292 Why can't Diane smash Phyllis' head on a table? Or a rock? Or drown her in a lake? Or sic a pit bull on her?

by Anonymousreply 296January 27, 2023 1:08 AM

Yes, r296! We haven't had a good, no holds barred catfight in ages! They probably can't afford to break any props these days.

by Anonymousreply 297January 27, 2023 1:16 AM

[quote] They probably can't afford to break any props these days.

Or risk any of these women breaking a bone due to osteoporosis.

by Anonymousreply 298January 27, 2023 1:24 AM

I'm still dead bitches!

by Anonymousreply 299January 27, 2023 1:27 AM

^ that one always makes me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 300January 27, 2023 1:45 AM

Seems like former stipper Nicki would know how to beat a bitch if she had to.

I get that Phyllis is terrible, but Diane is equally awful if not more so. Seeing her and Aunt Jack cuddled up in bed together makes me want to claw my eyes out.

by Anonymousreply 301January 27, 2023 2:13 AM

I've never seen "bad" Diane, and the actress is appealing in a way Phyllis/Michelle has never been. I really want someone to murder Phyllis. Or for her to be falsely accused of murdering someone and get the death penalty. I give her the finger when her slide comes up in the opening credits.

by Anonymousreply 302January 27, 2023 2:23 AM

It's funny to think that this thing between Jack and Diane has been going on now for over 40 years (1982). Original recipe Diane was the Jabot model that RealJack slept with from his bachelor party the night before he was to marry Patty Williams. Ashley found them in bed the next morning, and she and Diane had to drag his furry butt butt into the shower to try to sober him up before the ceremony.

by Anonymousreply 303January 27, 2023 3:08 AM

R302, keep that finger happy. She's also the 'headless slut' who saunters down the hallway at the end of the credits.

Ironic -- she was there the whole time Gina played Phyllis.

by Anonymousreply 304January 27, 2023 6:32 AM

Lanier was smart to casually come out like that.

If they can her, the press will be horrible.

But in the new cast photo she's up in the upper right corner by herself; they could crop her out and no one would notice.

by Anonymousreply 305January 27, 2023 6:34 AM

It's hard to believe, that with a cast that size, how very little happens on this show. I'm sure Y&R is still pulling most of their numbers from the nursing home crowd. I wonder how many code blues were charted when Fen came out on Wednesday?

by Anonymousreply 306January 27, 2023 9:55 AM

Hunter King will be back, it is inevitable. The nuSummer is too nice, she lacks the snootiness Summer inherited from Granny Nikki. Speaking of which, since Summer claims Weird Science Harrison as her 'son' - does Nikki see him as her great grandchild?

by Anonymousreply 307January 27, 2023 11:35 AM

Was Nikki created to be a snob? Or is it a result of acting choices by MTS?

by Anonymousreply 308January 27, 2023 11:47 AM

You're assuming MTS can act, R308 .

by Anonymousreply 309January 27, 2023 11:50 AM

I never thought MTS could act, r309. But her character is also so damn unlikeable.

by Anonymousreply 310January 27, 2023 12:16 PM

They don't call her Melody Thomas Snott for nothing.

by Anonymousreply 311January 27, 2023 12:35 PM

I really like Lanier in the role. I just wish they’d give her something to do. I always felt Hunter was overrated as an actress.

by Anonymousreply 312January 27, 2023 2:40 PM

I like NuSummer much better. Hunter always came off as trashy no matter how they styled her. The whole thing with Summer calling the Child of the Corn her "son" is a little odd. It's like the writers want us to forget that Tara even existed.

by Anonymousreply 313January 27, 2023 2:58 PM

Hunter does have TPF (Trailer Park Face).

by Anonymousreply 314January 27, 2023 3:16 PM

Hunter was quite good when she debuted in 2012. Really outstanding in that storyline about bullying Jamie (?). That was one of the best teen storylines I’ve ever seen.

Was Josh Griffin HW for that?

by Anonymousreply 315January 27, 2023 5:55 PM

We see little to no aspects of anyone's internal life, or any yearnings they might have. They're just plastic dolls that are wound up to smash into one another.

by Anonymousreply 316January 27, 2023 5:57 PM

R307, all future grand, great and great-great-grandchildren of Nikki and Victor's will refer to them not as granny, poppa, nan, or anything other than:

"Victor" and "Nikki"

by Anonymousreply 317January 27, 2023 6:05 PM

[quote] Hunter does have TPF (Trailer Park Face).

Lanier is a natural beauty.

Hunterr is already starting to look like her mother.

by Anonymousreply 318January 27, 2023 6:45 PM

Michelle's daughter on GH was played by an actress named Chloe Lanier, and now her daughter on Y&R is being played by another Lanier lol at first I thought they were related

by Anonymousreply 319January 27, 2023 6:54 PM

Noah calls Victor and Nikki "Grandpa" and "Grandma" all the time. And when Twink Reed and Faith were around, they did too.

by Anonymousreply 320January 27, 2023 6:55 PM

R315 Yes Josh Griffith was the hw when Hunter King first began. This was around the time they were shifting to him from Maria Arena Bell, Scott Hammer & Hogan Sheffer.

by Anonymousreply 321January 27, 2023 7:49 PM

R320 Do you remember when Nikki first became a grandmother and she wanted to be known as Nana? I guess the writers after that forgot to stay with it, unless they intentionally omitted it lol

by Anonymousreply 322January 27, 2023 7:52 PM

[quote] I always felt Hunter was overrated as an actress.

Hunter was okay, but after she booked that CBS prime time gig (Life In Pieces), McDaniel considered saw her as a *star." .. McDaniel was always trying to get actors from prime time cast on the soap, so she made sure Y&R did everything they could to accommodate HK doing both shows. As I recall, Mal Young had enough of that and eventually put a casting call out for a NuSummer, but McDaniel didn't want anyone else, and they ended up delaying story and leaving the role open until HK's prime time show went on hiatus at the end of the season. Once that happened, they played Summer almost every single day for a month or more since she was only going to be available for a short time. After the prime time show got canceled, she came back to Y&R full time. Lucky us.

by Anonymousreply 323January 27, 2023 7:54 PM

[quote] Yes Josh Griffith was the hw when Hunter King first began.

Right, and when JFP and Griffith came in (2012), they brought three of their actors over from the Nickelodeon telenovela, Hollywood Heights, that they'd just done for Sony. Hunter King and Melissa Boredway, as well as Robert Adamson to play Straight Noah, since MAB's planned gay storyline with Kevin Schmidt in the role needed to be completely erased.

by Anonymousreply 324January 27, 2023 8:01 PM

Somehow, "Grandma" and "Grandpa" just don't seem fitting for Eric Braeden and MTS. "Grandfather" and "Grandmother" seem more appropriate.

by Anonymousreply 325January 27, 2023 8:20 PM

Oma and Opa!

by Anonymousreply 326January 27, 2023 8:23 PM

R324 Yes lol I was going to mention Jill being instrumental in bringing Hunter in from Hollywood Heights along with them except I didn't want to go on and on lol thanks

by Anonymousreply 327January 27, 2023 8:54 PM

It would make sense if the grand kids called them The Old Goat and Miss Piggy.

by Anonymousreply 328January 27, 2023 9:17 PM

I've met Jill and it's not that she's not nice or pleasant but I've never remotely liked any show she's ever producer.

SB -- wasn't a fan. It was soo much. I did like the shows last year with Rauch and Pam Long at the helm. I know that's verboten to say to true SB fans.

GL - started out okay but once she lost Kimberly and Beverlee (!!!) and Sherry and then chose to kill off Maureen, GL felt less like home. Bringing on Tangie and a host of other ex-SB actors was a big mistake.

AW - Frankie Frame. AW was not ER.

OLTL. I don't even remember it.

GH. All mobsters all the time. Frank saved that show from cancellation.

Y&R. She didn't know the history of the show. Brought Steve on and gave him too prominent a role. Painted Chancellor mansion gray.

There's nowhere for her to go except DAYS. If she goes there, she'll do her usual stuff. Big story for a few vets, bringing on some pals from other shows. Some critical acclaim but she robs shows of their identities.

by Anonymousreply 329January 27, 2023 10:36 PM

What's next for Hans' old sausage?

by Anonymousreply 330January 27, 2023 11:27 PM

Braden is still recovering from knee replacement surgery.

by Anonymousreply 331January 28, 2023 1:27 AM

JaBottom is the future of Y&R!

by Anonymousreply 332January 28, 2023 1:37 AM

R329 good summary.

She blandifies everything she touches into a somewhat dark, noirish bad B movie.

by Anonymousreply 333January 28, 2023 1:41 AM

I loved the mob aspect on GH but I know I’m in the minority. But decisions like killing off Alan Quartermaine was unforgivable.

by Anonymousreply 334January 28, 2023 5:33 AM

Stuart went on to do guest spots, short runs on OLTL, DAYS (I think) and ATWT.

There's no reason he couldn't have been relegated to sitting behind Steve Hardy's old desk admonishing interns and do the Christmas prayer at the holidays for the sick kids.

They simply don't understand the value these type of characters have to fans.

by Anonymousreply 335January 28, 2023 5:38 AM

One thing Phelps wasn't was boring (until her Y&R stint, which I guess was because of SONY). I'm in no way an apologist, but we're still talking about the deaths of Frankie Frame and Maureen Bauer 24 and 30 years later, respectively. Her sweeps stunts were always well executed.

DAYS doesn't need her and couldn't afford her, or her vision.

by Anonymousreply 336January 28, 2023 10:08 AM

I didn't watch the entire episode. Did they show the scene where Lauren FINALLY apologizes to Tracey for all of her bullshit? It was about 7 or 8 years ago? I hadn't watched the show in forever but put it on one morning and it was THAT scene. It was touching.

OR was that a dream?

by Anonymousreply 337January 28, 2023 12:08 PM

[quote] Her sweeps stunts were always well executed.

Uh, ripping apart a show or murdering a much loved character isn't "well executed" story.

by Anonymousreply 338January 28, 2023 2:41 PM

"Well executed" might mean compelling story or heightened production values.

But being a "well executed" cunt comes naturally to you, R338.

by Anonymousreply 339January 28, 2023 3:12 PM

R339 Aw, its widdle feewings got hurt.

by Anonymousreply 340January 28, 2023 3:31 PM

Well sure. Stupid cunts always hurt people's feeling. That's why you do it.

by Anonymousreply 341January 28, 2023 3:37 PM

Anyway, back to ME!

by Anonymousreply 342January 28, 2023 4:06 PM

Brendad, stop fiddling with your vajeen.

by Anonymousreply 343January 28, 2023 4:08 PM

I indented home fryes but the Bowel Hollywould mafedora stole my padded.

by Anonymousreply 344January 28, 2023 4:11 PM

R336, people are still talking about the Titanic, too.

by Anonymousreply 345January 28, 2023 4:12 PM

That was my point too, R345, but our girl at R336 is a sensitive soul. Telling her the truth might hurt her feelings.

by Anonymousreply 346January 28, 2023 4:20 PM

Phelps was a short term fix. She ultimately ruined every show she touched. That was a weird thing about daytime. They kept recycling everybody. No matter how shit you were. You just had to get in. The longest she helmed a show was four years, the shortest a year (maybe less.) In fairness to her, those tenures are fairly consistent with most EPs. But I'd argue few left a show as consistently despised by fans as Phelps did or accused of such widespread vandalism to the fabric of the thing.

by Anonymousreply 347January 28, 2023 4:28 PM

JFP was at GH for a decade, r347.

by Anonymousreply 348January 28, 2023 8:36 PM

We have a JFP Lover Troll amongst us.

Must be the same sad, fat queen who was in The Locher Room the other day, making a fool of herself as everyone else watched the Maureen Bauer's death episodes.

by Anonymousreply 349January 28, 2023 8:45 PM

JFP's Cult Baby Retcon on Y&R -- which simply could not have happened based on what we saw -- just to shoehorn her boy, Steve Burton, into the canvas was just plain bad. .. I guess she thought by attaching "Dylan" to longtime vets, Nikki and Paul, viewers would be interested in the character, and this would provide Burton with some long-term job security being connected to them. .. Yet, how funny that after she was canned, he was one of the first to go.

by Anonymousreply 350January 28, 2023 8:55 PM
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