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LGBT-Friendly classic era stars from the Golden Age Of Hollywood?
by Anonymous | reply 195 | January 14, 2023 7:47 AM |
What exactly do you mean "LGBT-friendly"?
Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, for example, both very much liked gay men in private life (and one of Crawford's favorites was William Haines, her longtime decorator) , but they would disparage them to the press back in the day. So would they count?
Judy Garland was one of the few I can think of who never (to my knowledge) disparaged gay men.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 17, 2022 4:09 AM |
Lucy! She had a ton of gay friends
So did Natalie Wood
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 17, 2022 4:09 AM |
Gregory Peck was a proud liberal who appeared at the GLAAD Awards later in life
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 17, 2022 4:10 AM |
Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 17, 2022 4:10 AM |
Why are you looking at me, Darlings?
Is it because I've been known to be liberal and progressive, or is it just because I adore pussy?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 17, 2022 4:13 AM |
Humphrey Bogart greatly liked Noel Coward, it was said.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 17, 2022 4:14 AM |
Elizabeth Taylor, of course. I don't think she ever met a gay man she didn't like, and she did so much for gay men during the AIDS crisis before anyone else famous did.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 17, 2022 4:16 AM |
Richard Burton let himself be passed around among Laurence Olivier, Ralph Richardson, and John Gielgud even though he was technically straight (according to him). Does that count?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 17, 2022 4:17 AM |
R3- I would have licked đź‘… his balls and sucked his cock back in 1948.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 17, 2022 4:23 AM |
It seems most people were homophobic back in those days.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 17, 2022 4:56 AM |
Liz Taylor
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 17, 2022 5:12 AM |
R11 = R7
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 17, 2022 5:13 AM |
Miss Kay Francis surrounded herself with gay men, and even slept with a few.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 17, 2022 5:50 AM |
Kay Fwancis.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 17, 2022 5:51 AM |
Myrna Loy, another proud liberal, remained friends with Montgomery Clift at a time when many had dropped him due to his erratic behavior.
This photo was Loy was shot by Clift:
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 17, 2022 6:00 AM |
Burt Lancaster
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 17, 2022 6:13 AM |
Harold Lloyd was very supportive of his gay son, iirc.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 17, 2022 7:23 AM |
Lana Turner was supportive of her gay daughter
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 17, 2022 8:03 PM |
Carole Lombard!
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 17, 2022 8:12 PM |
I read that Eddie Albert was quite liberal.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 17, 2022 8:16 PM |
How did Grace Kelly, Vivien Leigh, Hedy Lamarr, Gene Tierney feel about homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 17, 2022 9:51 PM |
Vivien Leigh had a lot of gay friends. She supported John Gielgud after his "cottaging" bust
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 17, 2022 9:53 PM |
Who were all of the gays that Vivien Leigh got along with?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 18, 2022 3:07 AM |
Was Gary Cooper homophobic?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 18, 2022 5:41 AM |
What do you mean by "men and women", OP? Surely that's transphobic and therefore not T-friendly.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 18, 2022 5:50 AM |
^ Not from what I heard, I know he was friends with Gary Cooper
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 18, 2022 6:46 AM |
R23, Noel Coward, Cecil Beaton, John Gielgud, Terence Rattigan (among others)
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 18, 2022 6:48 AM |
[quote] I know he was friends with Gary Cooper
Super Duper.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 18, 2022 6:51 AM |
R21 Considering Vivien Leigh was bi, I'm sure she was fine with gay people
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 18, 2022 6:52 AM |
Crap, I meant Cary Cooper was friends with Cole Porter
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 18, 2022 6:52 AM |
Ava Gardner was friends with Dirk Bogarde and his partner, Tony
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 18, 2022 6:53 AM |
Gary Cooper allegedly had a go with roommate Anderson Lawler (pictured with Kay Francis at R13) back in the 1920s when everyone was carefree and gay.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 18, 2022 7:08 AM |
Was John Wayne homophobic?
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 18, 2022 8:34 AM |
What were Marilyn Monroe's views on homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 18, 2022 5:26 PM |
R33 Yes! He was also homosexual.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 18, 2022 5:57 PM |
John Wayne was nasty to Monty Clift but got along well with Rock Hudson
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 18, 2022 7:34 PM |
Elizabeth Taylor didn't get along with Cecil Beaton from what I have heard.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 18, 2022 11:21 PM |
Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Henry Fonda among others were all viciously anti-gay. Lesser know actors like Walter Brennan, Ward Bond, Charles Coburn were too
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 19, 2022 12:05 AM |
Grace Kelly despised gay men. She was a very nasty piece of work.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 19, 2022 12:25 AM |
R39, where did you hear that?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 19, 2022 1:22 AM |
R37. Who did? Even Garbo had issues with the nasty anti-Semite.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 19, 2022 1:27 AM |
Grace Kelly was close to (gay) agent, Rupert Allen
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 19, 2022 2:05 AM |
Grace was close to her gay uncle
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 19, 2022 5:58 AM |
I didn't know Grace had a guncle
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 19, 2022 6:08 AM |
Stop monopolizing posts by trying to make your hate of “guncle” a relevant or interesting opinion. It is not.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 19, 2022 6:13 AM |
Wasn't right-wing Ginger also cozy with some gays?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 19, 2022 6:19 AM |
Was Jane Wyman homophobic?
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 19, 2022 6:07 PM |
Not that I ever heard. Didn't she attend Rock Hudson's funeral
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 19, 2022 7:15 PM |
I'm not sure about how Gene Tierney felt about it
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 19, 2022 8:59 PM |
Wavishing Kay Fwancis, r14.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 19, 2022 9:04 PM |
[quote]Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Henry Fonda among others were all viciously anti-gay.
Source, r38?
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 19, 2022 9:07 PM |
r47 Yes. Tommy Kirk said she was really mean and homophobic.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 19, 2022 9:10 PM |
Gary Cooper was far from homophobic. He was bisexual, and early in his career he had a long, close relationship with a man. The studio told him to cut the guy off, and he did, although he was - as told by people who knew him - devastated. After that, I haven't heard anything, but that means he abided by the requisite discretion, by hook or by crook.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 19, 2022 9:42 PM |
Shelly Winters was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 20, 2022 1:37 AM |
Shelly was bffs with Farley Granger
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 20, 2022 1:45 AM |
[quote] What exactly do you mean "LGBT-friendly"?
I refuse to use the term.
Irrelevant then.
Irrelevant now.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 20, 2022 1:51 AM |
[quote] Burton let himself be passed around among Laurence Olivier, Ralph Richardson, and John Gielgud
This is the sort of ridiculous speculation that brings Datalounge into disrepute.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 20, 2022 1:56 AM |
[quote] Gregory Peck was a proud liberal who appeared at the GLAAD Awards later in life
How frequently?
Once? When he led in by his carer?
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 20, 2022 1:57 AM |
R57 is such a snowflake to freak out over a term that has been around for 30 years or more
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 20, 2022 1:58 AM |
[quote] Considering Vivien Leigh was bi…
More unsubstantiated nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 20, 2022 2:02 AM |
[quote] Gary Cooper was far from homophobic. He was bisexual, and early in his career he had a long, close relationship with a man.
Who?
His chauffeur?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 20, 2022 2:03 AM |
[quote] Elizabeth Taylor didn't get along with Cecil Beaton from what I have heard.
They never worked together.
But Cecil's diaries mention some froideur with Vivien in the 60s.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 20, 2022 2:08 AM |
[quote] Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Henry Fonda among others were all viciously anti-gay.
Gable got George Cukor fired from "Gone with the Wind."
This is likely because Cukor knew that Gable worked as a prostitute during his early days in Hollywood, before he made it big with "Night Nurse." The same dynamic was probably the reason for Cooper's homophobia--he also started out in 20s Hollywood as a gay-for-pay escort (he was from Montana and had to do something to pay the bills), and worried gay men who had heard the rumors or met him in that early period would rat him out.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 20, 2022 2:09 AM |
Tony Curtis was another homophobe who sold his ass on the way up.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 20, 2022 2:10 AM |
[quote] Source, [R38]?
R51 One drunk queen speaking to another drunk queen in a dark bar in 1953
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 20, 2022 2:15 AM |
R61, all that proves is that the phrase LGBT has been around quite awhile, before you snowflakes started complaining about it
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 20, 2022 2:15 AM |
R68 is Eric Cervini.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 20, 2022 2:18 AM |
R69 is Milo
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 20, 2022 2:22 AM |
Why has no one mentioned my idol John Payne?
Or Lew Ayres?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 20, 2022 2:27 AM |
R55/R56: "Shelly Winters"
Oh, fucking dear.
But R55 needs a boot to the ass, because Shelley was a vocal supporter of gays in the business. A friend of mine knew her - and everyone else - and at a party in New York in the 1950s she stopped the action by making a loud point of it when a young gay actor was fired.
Farley Granger was a friend, as noted, and she famously married her gay companion of 20 years when she was 85.
Fuck you, R55, for your pointless hate speech.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 20, 2022 2:39 AM |
[quote] Gary Cooper… had a long, close relationship with a man. The studio told him to cut the guy off…although he was …devastated.
But as Gary Cooper lay on his deathbed he whispered the name 'Randy'.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 20, 2022 2:51 AM |
I haven't read the biography of William Haines. Other than Crawford, which stars used him as their interior decorator?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 20, 2022 2:54 AM |
r74, according to this article:
Billy’s friends were clients: Joan Crawford, Gloria Swanson, Carole Lombard, Rosalind Russell, Constance Bennett, Marion Davies, Lucille Ball, Ann Rutherford, Jack Benny and George Cukor.
Cole Porter, another friend, rented Haines’ Brentwood house. Orry-Kelly was a close pal too.
And also Betsy Bloomingdale and Nancy Reagan
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 20, 2022 3:05 AM |
[quote] LGBT-Friendly classic era stars from the Golden Age Of Hollywood?
Next you'll be asking about the Cis-friendly Trans stars from the Golden Age Of Hollywood?
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 20, 2022 3:11 AM |
r76, oh, please. LGBT includes gay, lesbian, and bisexual people and there were plenty of those in Old Hollywood. You're just looking for shit to complain about
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 20, 2022 3:14 AM |
[quote][italic]Elizabeth Taylor didn't get along with Cecil Beaton from what I have heard.[/italic]
[quote]They never worked together.
I'm not R37 but he's right, R64.
[quote]The Hollywood couple were photographed by Beaton at a party thrown at the Rothschilds' home, Chateau de Ferrières, near Paris in December 1971. Shortly afterwards Beaton wrote in his diary: "I have always loathed the Burtons for their vulgarity, commonness and crass bad taste, she combining the worst of US and English taste, he as butch and coarse as only a Welshman can be."
[quote]He said Taylor had craved compliments during the brief shoot. "She got none. I felt I must be professional and continued, but not without loathing at this monster … Round her neck was a velvet ribbon with the biggest diamond in the world pinned on it.
[quote]”On her fat, coarse hands more of the biggest diamonds and emeralds, her head a ridiculous mass of diamond necklaces."
[quote]Ungallantly, Beaton described Taylor's hair as "sausage curls", adding: "Alexandre, the hairdresser, had done his worst.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 20, 2022 3:15 AM |
[quote]However, his real venom was reserved for Elizabeth Taylor, who he photographed in 1957.
[quote]“She’s everything I dislike,” he wrote.
[quote]“I have always loathed the Burtons for their vulgarity, commonness and crass bad taste, she combining the worst of US and English taste.
[quote]“I treated her with authority, told her not to powder her nose, to come in front of the cameras with it shining.
[quote]“She wanted compliments. She got none. “Don’t touch me like that,” she whined!
[quote]“Her breasts, hanging and huge, were like those of a peasant woman suckling her young in Peru. On her fat, coarse hands more of the biggest diamonds and emeralds...
[quote]“And this was the woman who is the greatest “draw”. In comparison everyone else looked ladylike.”
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 20, 2022 3:15 AM |
[quote] "sausage curls"
Yuck.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 20, 2022 4:22 AM |
Lauren Bacall was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 20, 2022 8:01 PM |
R81, but what about her friendships with Rock Hudson and Roddy McDowall? Did she just ignore their proclivities because they were celebrity peers?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 20, 2022 10:01 PM |
What did Shirley Temple think of homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 21, 2022 4:05 AM |
[quote] What did Shirley Temple think of homosexuality?
She was probably fine with it considering The Good Ship Lollipop was all about men sucking each other's cocks.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 21, 2022 4:11 AM |
Doris Day had many gay friends and was devoted to them. Of course, she just blocked that aspect of their lives out of her mind.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 21, 2022 7:28 AM |
R79 Who is that in the photo of the article?
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 21, 2022 2:47 PM |
Wasn't Shirley Temple conservative? Her daughter was a semi-famous bass player in punk and metal bands in the 80s-90s.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | December 21, 2022 2:48 PM |
R62 Vivien Leigh having sex with women and visiting lesbian bars isn't unsubstantiated nonsense. What's next, John Travolta being gay/bi is unsubstantiated nonsense?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 21, 2022 2:50 PM |
Anne Revere was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 21, 2022 11:16 PM |
Gale Sondergaarrd was awful.
And Henry Daniell was a beast!
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 21, 2022 11:43 PM |
R88 Unsubstantiated, undocumented nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 21, 2022 11:53 PM |
Cary Grant was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 22, 2022 3:31 AM |
R91 What does your post has to do with Vivien Leigh being bi?
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 22, 2022 2:46 PM |
Stanwick, R91, claims Vivien was a 'whore' but not a lesbian.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 22, 2022 10:21 PM |
[quote]Was Jane Wyman homophobic?
She nixed the introduction of a lesbian couple on Falcon Crest.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 22, 2022 10:48 PM |
Rosemary Clooney was like Doris Day in that regard. She had many gay friends and knew they were gay, but turned a blind eye to their love/sex life.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 23, 2022 2:31 AM |
R94 Where in that text does she mentions anything about being or not being a lesbian? Also, I said Vivien was bi, not a lesbian.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 23, 2022 4:46 AM |
[quote] I said Vivien was bi
How can you say Vivien was bi?
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 23, 2022 5:13 AM |
[quote] Bette Davis and Joan Crawford, for example, both very much liked gay men in private life (and one of Crawford's favorites was William Haines, her longtime decorator) , but they would disparage them to the press back in the day. So would they count?
Who did Bette like?
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 23, 2022 5:16 AM |
Angela Lansbury loved gays. She even married one.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | December 23, 2022 5:18 AM |
[quote] Harold Lloyd was very supportive of his gay son, iirc.
He was but he blamed his son’s homosexuality on himself for being an absentee father.
Buster Keaton seemed fine with it. Hell, he dressed in drag and displayed his feminine side a million times.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 23, 2022 5:21 AM |
Richard Burton was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 23, 2022 7:03 PM |
Jeffrey Hunter was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 103 | December 23, 2022 8:37 PM |
It's retarded to consider people born in the early 20th century homophobic because they said a few un-PC comments about gays. You all must be Gen Z morons.
Bette and Joan were both very supportive of gay men, I don't give a hang about off hand jokes or comments. Most old Hollywood stars were gay friendly, most of them WERE somewhat gay, for fuck's sake.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 23, 2022 8:40 PM |
R104 uses "retarded" as an insult. Probably a low IQ Trump voter. Baby boomer moron.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 23, 2022 8:46 PM |
[quote] Richard Burton was homophobic
He hated everyone, not just gay people. He was a miserable cunt through and through.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 23, 2022 9:42 PM |
There is NO documentation to say that Vivien ever touched Isabel.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 23, 2022 9:48 PM |
Richard Burton was close to gay men like John Gielgud and Alec Guinness
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 23, 2022 9:49 PM |
The alte great Vivian Blaine was pro-gay & pro-AIDS activism in her life/career =
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 23, 2022 9:50 PM |
Viv was doing AIDS benefits before some of the more diva stars attached their name to the cause. This is an '83 interview
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 23, 2022 9:52 PM |
[quote] Richard Burton was close to gay men like John Gielgud and Alec Guinness
He may have allowed Gielgud to direct him in a New York production 'Hamlet'.
He may have allowed Guinness to support him in that weak film called 'The Comedians'.
But they weren't invited to his private parties and you don't find their names in his personal life in his diaries.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 23, 2022 10:05 PM |
^ That's cool of her, there was a TON of stigma around AIDS back then.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 23, 2022 10:25 PM |
I agree R112. It's hard to believe that the woman performing with such a high voice in R109 is the same as the one in the interview below it.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 23, 2022 10:27 PM |
There is NIL documentary evidence to say that Ursula and Vivien connected.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 24, 2022 12:23 AM |
[quote] Jeffrey Hunter was homophobic
He may have been, but he would have had to put up with them being around because both Barbara Rush and Emily McLaughlin were very accepting of gay people and welcomed them into their homes.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 24, 2022 12:57 AM |
I know Barbara Rush said she loved working with Rock Hudson. So did Doris Day.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | December 24, 2022 12:59 AM |
Bacall wasn't homophobic, she hated everyone equally
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 24, 2022 1:39 AM |
Ursula and Vivien:
there's just twelve inches separating their lips.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | December 24, 2022 4:19 AM |
Mr. & Mrs. Alfred Steele with Jimmy Shields and Billy Haines
by Anonymous | reply 120 | December 24, 2022 5:30 AM |
These gays...they're trying to murder me!
by Anonymous | reply 121 | December 24, 2022 5:41 AM |
Haven't you eldergays daydreamed up some secret stories about Phillips Holmes?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 24, 2022 8:22 AM |
R114 What do you mean by connected?
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 24, 2022 11:54 PM |
How could Joan be homophobic when she was fucking women?
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 24, 2022 11:54 PM |
How could Cary Grant be homophobic when he was fucking men as recently as the early sixties.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 25, 2022 1:57 AM |
Carleton Carpenter said Cary Grant hit on him
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 25, 2022 2:08 AM |
So did Dick Sargent
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 25, 2022 3:16 AM |
I've learned so much from this thread.
Thanks, guys!
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 25, 2022 6:04 PM |
R38, Didn’t Jimmy Stewart play a gay man in Rope? And Henry Fonda was in Otto Preminger’s Advise & Consent. It seems odd to say they were viciously anti-gay.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | December 25, 2022 7:10 PM |
[quote] It seems odd to say they were viciously anti-gay.
R129 We shouldn't expect too much intellectual rigor in a thread written about the dead by the almost-dead.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 25, 2022 11:21 PM |
Anita Bryant
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 25, 2022 11:35 PM |
Ava?
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 26, 2022 5:59 AM |
Why have you omitted my god, George O'Brien?
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 26, 2022 6:25 AM |
Greta Garbo was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 134 | December 27, 2022 12:46 AM |
Garbo was a dyke
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 27, 2022 12:57 AM |
Ethel Merman was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 136 | December 27, 2022 8:57 PM |
R133 That man must be rolling his waistband downward because his elastic has failed.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 27, 2022 10:54 PM |
George O’Brien is of high interest to me now.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 28, 2022 12:30 AM |
I didn’t think George O’Brien actually played tennis in that loincloth at r133.
Apparently, he did.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 28, 2022 12:33 AM |
R91 That Barbara was a bitch.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 28, 2022 12:45 AM |
R1, liking gay men and women if you are opposite sex is not pro gay , it’s also a form of bigotry.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 28, 2022 1:02 AM |
Ethel Merman wasn't homophobic. She supported gay rights and had many gay friends.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 28, 2022 1:03 AM |
You can't give us a link that "She supported gay rights".
by Anonymous | reply 143 | December 28, 2022 1:08 AM |
I don't think Clark Gable had the power to have George Cukor fired from GWTW. Cukor himself said he had doubts about how he was doing, and Selznick didn't think he was getting it right (for example, the scene of the Atlanta bazaar had to be completely re-shot by Victor Fleming.) Cukor had done pre-production of the film for over a year. Possibly he was too close to the material, or even burnt out.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 28, 2022 1:27 AM |
R144 That sounds like a reasonable assessment.
There was third director needed on this massive production after a year's pre-production.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | December 28, 2022 1:29 AM |
Natalie Wood was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 28, 2022 9:27 PM |
So many accusations without anything to back it up.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | December 28, 2022 9:39 PM |
[quote]Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Henry Fonda among others were all viciously anti-gay.
Jimmy Stewart was also virulently racist. I don't know about Fonda or Cooper, but Gable was not racist at all and frequently attended Hattie McDaniel's parties, where he was one of only a handful of white guests. True story!
by Anonymous | reply 148 | December 28, 2022 10:02 PM |
Is Katharine Hepburn was gay I wonder what she thought of that homophobic scece in On Golden Pond where Henry Fonda condemns a lesbian couple living close by their lake house.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | December 28, 2022 10:20 PM |
R146, Liar!!
by Anonymous | reply 150 | December 28, 2022 11:36 PM |
[quote]I don't know about Fonda or Cooper, but Gable was not racist at all
I know very little about Gary Cooper, but Henry Fonda was not racist. He told the story more than once about how when he was a kid he witnessed a lynching.
[quote]Nebraska-born actor Henry Fonda was 14 years old when the lynching happened. His father owned a printing plant across the street from the courthouse. He watched the riot from the second floor window of his father’s shop.
[quote]"It was the most horrendous sight I’d ever seen . . . We locked the plant, went downstairs, and drove home in silence. My hands were wet and there were tears in my eyes. All I could think of was that young black man dangling at the end of a rope."
[quote]During Fonda’s long career, at least two of his best movies — Young Mister Lincoln and The Ox Bow Incident — featured lynchings as major plot points.
Not race related, but Fonda also had a falling out with his best friend James Stewart over the fact that Stewart had been providing names of suspected Communists to the FBI. I believe Fonda called Stewart a "stupid bastard" and they didn't talk for a few years.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | December 28, 2022 11:39 PM |
Fonda was pretty liberal, although he did make a homophobic comment about Charles Laughton when they worked together
by Anonymous | reply 152 | December 29, 2022 12:04 AM |
Jane Fonda was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 153 | December 29, 2022 6:31 PM |
"What do you know about men, you fat, ugly faggot!”
by Anonymous | reply 154 | December 29, 2022 9:13 PM |
Fonda may have been pretty in 1938.
He specialised in playing passive characters.
He never radiated a scintilla of intellect.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | December 29, 2022 9:36 PM |
"I don't think Clark Gable had the power to have George Cukor fired from GWTW. "
I disagree, I think that if Gable had told Selznick "It's Cukor or me", I think Selznick would have fired Cukor and kept Gable. Gable was the King of Hollywood, the whole world wanted to see him in the role, Selznick didn't have the kind of financial cushion that a studio had, he was always on the financial edge and couldn't afford to waste time and money in court when there was a huge movie to be made.
This doesn't mean that Gable *did* have Cukor fired, just that I think he could have if he'd really wanted to. He probably didn't, Gable wasn't given to throwing his weight around, he usually showed up and did a good job, and if he didn't like his co-star (as happened) he got on with the job.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | December 29, 2022 10:27 PM |
James Garner was a proud liberal so I can’t imagine him being homophobic.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | December 29, 2022 10:30 PM |
[quote] I can’t imagine him
The so-called 'Golden Age Of Hollywood' ended around 1954.
So I can’t imagine any of those people would have any idea what a 'LGBT' is.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | December 29, 2022 10:44 PM |
Was Jean Harlow homophobic?
by Anonymous | reply 159 | December 30, 2022 10:24 PM |
She held the rights to Terms of Endearment for years to make her big return to films in. She never could get it made though.
She’s usually boring as excement.
She broke up one of Hollywood’s most powerful marriages in her youth and married the producer husband. He then over managed her career to the point where she appeared mostly in boring projects when not tied to his overblown bombs. She still won an Oscar, but her career would have really been better if not shackled to him.
In later life (after marrying another multi millionaire) she had a hairdresser and makeup man drop by the house every morning and do her up. Because she didn’t trust a mortuary to make her look good for an open casket should she drop dead.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | December 30, 2022 10:28 PM |
r160 who the hell are you talking about? I don't recognize the woman in your link.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | December 30, 2022 11:53 PM |
R161 Jennifer Jones, one of the biggest stars of the 40s and 50s.
And I don't think she was boring, far from it.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | December 31, 2022 2:33 AM |
I seem to remember in Henry Fonda's autobiography that he said Dick Powell (the official director of the stage production, The Caine Mutiny Court Martial) was in way over his head, and that Charles Laughton (who I think was the producer, with Paul Gregory) took over and directed the actors on the bus as they toured from city to city prior to Broadway. He certainly comes across in the book as admiring Laughton.
Also, Advise And Consent was the first big movie to have a closeted gay character (played by Don Murray) and he's presented sympathetically in the film. I wouldn't think Fonda would accept one of the biggest roles in the film (and top billing) if he were homophobic.
Where is that quote where he called Laughton a faggot taken from? Is it a reliable source?
by Anonymous | reply 163 | December 31, 2022 7:01 PM |
That picture has Tyrone and Charles together.
I wish we had some RELIABLE, credible, FEASIBLE gossip about Tyrone's prvate life.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | December 31, 2022 10:08 PM |
What did Marilyn Monroe think of homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 165 | January 2, 2023 11:15 PM |
R34
[quote] What were Marilyn Monroe's views on homosexuality?
R165
[quote] What did Marilyn Monroe think of homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 166 | January 2, 2023 11:19 PM |
I don’t think Marilyn was totally straight.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | January 3, 2023 12:08 AM |
R164, Power and Laughton made a movie together, "Witness for the Prosecution" in 1957, of course they'd be photographed together.
As for Power, didn't Susielee describe him as someone very nice, obliging, and willing? Like he'd have sex if the other person wanted it, so it was out of the way and they could get to know each other, if I remember correctly and I probably dont.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | January 3, 2023 12:24 AM |
Tyrone Power was homophobic
by Anonymous | reply 169 | January 3, 2023 12:31 AM |
Tyrone Power was family. His best friend was Cesar Romero
by Anonymous | reply 170 | January 3, 2023 12:33 AM |
R170, Cesar Romero was straight
by Anonymous | reply 171 | January 3, 2023 1:12 AM |
^Straight into big hard dick.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | January 3, 2023 1:21 AM |
R165 She was bi so I guess she was okay with it.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | January 3, 2023 5:44 AM |
In one biog. of Power there was info about him having an early relationship with some other young gay man, very affedtionate in front of the other guy's family. It was a NY "society" family, I think.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | January 3, 2023 8:27 PM |
*affectionate
by Anonymous | reply 175 | January 3, 2023 8:27 PM |
Laughton also directed Power (and Raymond Massey, Judith Anderson) in John Brown's Body.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | January 3, 2023 8:36 PM |
Natalie Wood gay AND lesbian friendly . A big advocate
by Anonymous | reply 177 | January 4, 2023 6:31 AM |
R177, nope she was a homophobe
by Anonymous | reply 178 | January 5, 2023 8:42 PM |
Natalie Wood was quite close to a number of gays.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | January 5, 2023 10:23 PM |
Natalie wanted to play a lesbian in a movie involving twins in early 60’s and it never came to pass . She was ardently a champion for LGB rights and was courageous.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | January 6, 2023 2:08 AM |
[quote] She was ardently a champion for LGB rights and was courageous.
She was as courageous as St Joan of Arc.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | January 6, 2023 2:44 AM |
(Bogart and Lauren Bacall were friends with Clifton Webb, Noel Coward.)
by Anonymous | reply 183 | January 6, 2023 6:07 PM |
What did Elvis Presley think of homosexuality?
by Anonymous | reply 184 | January 7, 2023 12:47 AM |
Elvis adores the gays.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | January 7, 2023 1:09 AM |
Remember the story Tom Jones told about Elvis in a hotel room?
by Anonymous | reply 186 | January 7, 2023 1:16 AM |
R186, no I want to hear
by Anonymous | reply 187 | January 7, 2023 1:20 AM |
Is this the story?
It’s got nudity and transgressed boundaries, but it’s almost anti-homoerotic.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | January 7, 2023 1:24 AM |
Betty Grable loved gay men. Chuck Walters writes in his autobiography that when he and Betty were in "DuBarry was a Lady" on Broadway after the show they would go out and party in the Village all night with his (gay) friends.
Grable's best friends at Fox were the gay chorus boys and girls she worked with and she hooked up her friend and favorite co-star Dan Dailey with the hottest boys on the lot. She loved to hang out with her gay choreographers Hermes Pan and Jack Cole. Marge Champion was interviewed live about working with Grable in "Three For The Show" and said all Grables scenes had to be done in the morning before lunch, because she and Cole would have big boozy lunches with Coles hottest male dancers and was in no shape in the afternoon to do much.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | January 7, 2023 2:41 AM |
I consider gay acceptance if straight men have gay male friends and straight female have gay female friends. And accept both gay sexes
by Anonymous | reply 190 | January 7, 2023 3:07 AM |
Who were all of Tyrone Power's gay friends?
by Anonymous | reply 191 | January 8, 2023 7:48 PM |
One interviewer wrote that Ava Gardner told him she realized women turned her on when watching Betty Grable (left) and Charles Walters in the number. Well Did You Evah?, from DuBarry Was A Lady (starring Ethel Merman and Bert Lahr). Ava wasn't a star at the time. She said that later in Hollywood she told Grable this, and Grable just laughed.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | January 8, 2023 8:08 PM |
Isn't Raquel Welch homophobic?
by Anonymous | reply 194 | January 11, 2023 2:08 AM |
R184 I think Elvis was a product of his times but he was friendly with a lot of bisexual and gay stars like Nick Adams, Sal Mineo, Cary Grant, Sammy Davis Jr., Little Richard, Liberace, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | January 14, 2023 7:47 AM |