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Henry Cavill officially OUT as Superman, quit The Witcher for nothing

DC has had sufficient.

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by Anonymousreply 222December 20, 2022 5:50 PM

If Marvel were smart they make him Capt. Brittan.

by Anonymousreply 1December 15, 2022 2:34 AM

This is the funniest outcome. Wonder if he’ll try to crawl back to Netflix?

by Anonymousreply 2December 15, 2022 2:37 AM

What’s Capt. Brittan?

by Anonymousreply 3December 15, 2022 2:38 AM

Gunn is a sexual predator.

by Anonymousreply 4December 15, 2022 2:40 AM

r3 - he was a Marvel Hero created by Chris Clermont, one of the superstar X-Men writers for Marvel. Similar to Captain America but with more King Arthur mythology. He was changed into a superman level hero, a protector of the multiverse. His sister is Betsy Braddock. She was Psylocke and part of the Siege Perilous storyline where she became a psychic ninja. He was a huge part of the Excaliber comic books.

by Anonymousreply 5December 15, 2022 2:45 AM

Thank you, R5.

by Anonymousreply 6December 15, 2022 3:04 AM

I don’t think he’ll go back to Witcher, that program is such a mess. They ruined such good source material.

by Anonymousreply 7December 15, 2022 3:14 AM

Warner Bros and DC are going down in flames.

by Anonymousreply 8December 15, 2022 3:14 AM

He's a boring actor with the baggage of being a failed superman, I doubt Marvel will want him despite what the stories pushed by Henry's people say.

by Anonymousreply 9December 15, 2022 3:17 AM

[quote]Warner Bros and DC are going down in flames.

Good.

by Anonymousreply 10December 15, 2022 3:20 AM

Ouch! What a burn!

by Anonymousreply 11December 15, 2022 3:21 AM

OP has comments from Cavill. So this is how James Gunn described the Superman situation with Cavill:

[quote] “Peter & I have a DC slate ready to go, which we couldn’t be more over-the-moon about; we’ll be able to share some exciting information about our first projects at the beginning of the new year,” the director-turned-label-chief tweeted Wednesday evening.

[quote] “Among those on the slate is Superman. In the initial stages, our story will be focusing on an earlier part of Superman’s life, so the character will not be played by Henry Cavill.

[quote] But we just had a great meeting with Henry and we’re big fans and we talked about a number of exciting possibilities to work together in the future.”

Cavill didn't mention the part about working with Gunn on "a number of exciting possibilities to work together in the future," so he is smart enough to know they're blowing PR smoke with no promise of a commitment to future projects.

Cavill aged out, since Gunn will be "focusing on an earlier part of Superman’s life." Surprise.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 15, 2022 3:25 AM

"We wish you the best in your future endeavors."

by Anonymousreply 13December 15, 2022 3:27 AM

*Britain, R1.

by Anonymousreply 14December 15, 2022 3:30 AM

I do think this is the worst possible decision WB could have done, because it’s such a big FU to the fan base who supported them over a very long, turbulent period. I saw an interesting YouTube which posited there is something called the “Trust Thermocline” in which consumers can only be strung along so far before they abandon a product they use (this was in relation to Disney Parks declining quality, posted below); I think this will be the breaking point for the DC movie brand, at the very least for a while, until the properties are rebooted again under, presumably, Universal. Doing one more Superman movie under Cavill made sense because it’s inevitable that Universal, once the Warner Bros. acquisition is complete sometime in 2025, will reboot all DC properties with their own creative people presumably chosen by Donna Langley who has her own tastes. It makes absolutely no sense to institute a ten year plan. Warner Brothers doesn’t have ten years. It has exactly one year, four months and ten days. Then it goes away forever.

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by Anonymousreply 15December 15, 2022 3:30 AM

I also think it will be VERY hard to get a good Superman movie made because everyone in Hollywood knows Warner Brothers is on the auction block and that anybody who signs on for Gunn’s Superman will be in for a one-off. This is going to be a Superman Returns redux.

by Anonymousreply 16December 15, 2022 3:39 AM

Also the DC fans will be brutal to anybody who is cast as Superman by Gunn.

by Anonymousreply 17December 15, 2022 3:41 AM

This frees him for bond.

by Anonymousreply 18December 15, 2022 4:01 AM

^ I'm not sure about the Bond thing for Henry. He's too chucky and I'm not sure he'd be good at doing his own stunts. Just a feeling. His charisma is lacking too. I do love Henry by the way.

by Anonymousreply 19December 15, 2022 4:09 AM

[quote] He's too chucky

What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 20December 15, 2022 4:12 AM

He was a great Superman, but the entire franchise was trash

by Anonymousreply 21December 15, 2022 4:13 AM

R15, R16, and R17 are correct.

The Witcher deviated from the source material and upset it's fanbase (those who have read the series and loved it) and didn't even do so in a quality manner. Why would Cavill want to go back to that shite? The black hole of charisma with abs they hired to replace him will suffice once they give him a wig and toss some dirt on him.

I hope Henry finds something new and exciting to do now that he can put this role and WB's bullshit behind him.

by Anonymousreply 22December 15, 2022 4:23 AM

The most unfortunate thing about this is that we will no longer see Cavill's ass in Superman tights.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 15, 2022 4:25 AM

He shouldn't have opened his mouth until his name was signed on the dotted line. I know the studio told him it would be okay but it just seems silly.

[quote]Similar to Captain America but with more King Arthur mythology. He was changed into a superman level hero, a protector of the multiverse. His sister is Betsy Braddock.

R5, The world of comics is constantly shifting.

"Captain Britain" has been a woman (his sister Elizabeth Braddock) a while now. She was white. Then she was Asian after the Siege Perilous now she's white again.

Kwannon, whose body was switched with Elizabeth's when they made Betsy Asian is now "Psylocke" and she's alive and Asian.

And Brian Braddock goes by "Captain Avalon."

by Anonymousreply 24December 15, 2022 4:27 AM

No one wants a young Superman. They did that to death. Fuck, we had Smallville! Young people don’t buy comic books. Gunn is out of his league with this. He doesn’t know what he’s doing. He made two average films and a ton of bombs. Comcast needs to buy Warner Bros and fire all these boneheads. What they’re doing to HBO Max alone is insane.

by Anonymousreply 25December 15, 2022 4:35 AM

He’s such a good superman. Pisses me off. I don’t know what the hell is wrong with DC now. I am kind of happy though that they 86 the new wonder woman. After the last one was a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 26December 15, 2022 4:57 AM

The DCEU is dead to me. Fuck them.

by Anonymousreply 27December 15, 2022 5:03 AM

He should have told them he's non-binary.

by Anonymousreply 28December 15, 2022 5:04 AM

Now it is time for him to come out

by Anonymousreply 29December 15, 2022 5:21 AM

Can someone please explain in a Cliff Notes way, WTF is the deal going on with this shit? He's in, he's out, in, out.

by Anonymousreply 30December 15, 2022 5:43 AM

R31 Are you daft or what? It's over for him. He's finished.

by Anonymousreply 31December 15, 2022 8:52 AM

So much turmoil in the entertainment world, so many TV channels and studios up for sale, mergers, etc. resulting in cancellation of projects "the old guard" approved in favor of going "in a new / different direction".

by Anonymousreply 32December 15, 2022 8:56 AM

Poor Henry.

by Anonymousreply 33December 15, 2022 9:25 AM

Why did they even bother with the "Black Adam" cameo?

by Anonymousreply 34December 15, 2022 9:34 AM

Because until about 2 weeks ago Henry was still superman, James Gunn came in and decided he wanted an actor who can actually act.

by Anonymousreply 35December 15, 2022 9:39 AM

Even if he should have waited for a signed contract before he did anything they ask him to, the Warner studio comes across as not trustworthy and also taking cruel pleasure into building up fans hopes, only to have them wait and crush them in the end.

They had him release a message about being back, dresse as Superman. It wasn't Cavill's delusion. Then had the fans and the eager actor wait. And wait. When they worried nothing was done about Superman, Gunn stated it was of the Utmost importance for him. And then, they announce Cavill's out. Fans feel trolled and antagonized. A lot of them have a man crush on Henry that borders on irrational. They might be very resentful.

They might discover there is a limit to fans loyalty when they feel disrespected.

We'll see. But they don't make themselves look good.

by Anonymousreply 36December 15, 2022 9:48 AM

I doubt that's the criteria they are going for, R35.

by Anonymousreply 37December 15, 2022 9:51 AM

R25. Haven't his superhero movies been pretty well received? Admittedly I only know Guardians and Suicide Squad but people really seem to like them.

And he gets credit for Peacemaker as well which is apparently great.

I think Gunn does know what he's doing. And let's be honest, him wiping the slate clean is exactly what DC needs right now. It must hurt for Henry but he's just too identifiable with the trash that has come before. And it's not like his fandom online seems to have actually translated into box office success. Same problem with the Rock really.

I think it's a well-calculated move on Gunn's part. People online may love Henry but they don't seem to care enough to actually do much about it.

by Anonymousreply 38December 15, 2022 10:12 AM

James Gunn’s daft style works for some comic book movies. He could never make a serious, face value superhero movie. This is the equivalent of Richard Lester taking over Reeve’s Superman films, or Joel Schumacher replacing Tim Burton.

by Anonymousreply 39December 15, 2022 10:17 AM

I hope they get Brad Bird to direct it, I think he would be able to balance out the silly with the serious as well as creating an earnest version of Clark/Superman that's needed. He also knows how to direct action scenes in a way that you can tell what's going.

by Anonymousreply 40December 15, 2022 10:24 AM

Don’t be ridiculous, Gunn is directing this himself.

by Anonymousreply 41December 15, 2022 10:29 AM

He'd better hope and pray he gets Bond.

by Anonymousreply 42December 15, 2022 10:30 AM

Why not create a character called Captain T-Rex?

Perfect for Henry…

by Anonymousreply 43December 15, 2022 10:43 AM

This is such a shit show, coming so soon after he announced he was returning to the role - just an embarrassment for everyone all round really.

I definitely think Marvel need to snap him up quickly though, he's obviously perfect to play a superhero role and it's an obvious "fuck you" to DC. A lot of people have said Captain Britain, but I could also imagine him being cast as Reed Richards for the forthcoming Fantastic Four reboot, I was reading yesterday that John Krasinski hasn't been asked (yet) so it's not inevitable that he will be cast as Reed just because he was in Dr Strange 2.

by Anonymousreply 44December 15, 2022 10:45 AM

More time for acting lessons?

by Anonymousreply 45December 15, 2022 10:45 AM

Cavill never had a contract to return. The black Adam thing was a cameo he hoped he could parlay into an actual contract due to vocal fan momentum. It was a strategy that did not pay off! Gal Gadot was playing a similar strategy recently with a tweet praising the many fans of Wonder Woman—the actors hoped the studio would buckle to vocal fan demand, and the studio called that bluff.

by Anonymousreply 46December 15, 2022 10:53 AM

He’s not getting Bond R42. He was just fired from a huge franchise and effectively labeled old and box office poison. Bond won’t touch him. This is quite a dirty mess. It was a huge mistake to leave Witcher. He went from potentially three major franchises in both TV and film to zero in the space of one tweet. He’s got to be shitting his pants.

by Anonymousreply 47December 15, 2022 10:55 AM

R46, Warners told him to announce his return as Superman. It is OK if they don't want him, but they never should have him wasted his time and have him believe he had it. That was cruel and unprofessional.

Now, as for Cavill, doesn't he have a team that look out for his interests and have him sign a contract ?

He left the Witcher with class and only kind words, but... social media made his leaving the show a condemnation of the script writers. Not his fault, but he probably will pay for the anonymous incels.

What a mess. I blame the studio.

by Anonymousreply 48December 15, 2022 11:23 AM

I'm glad about it. Superman should be an American, just as James Bond should always be from the British Isles.

by Anonymousreply 49December 15, 2022 11:28 AM

WB definitely let him think he was going to come back in that role, then fucked him over. The same WB who is going to bat for that little freak Miller. WTF? That studio can re-boot their re-boots with whoever they want, they are still total shitheads who deserve to fail.

by Anonymousreply 50December 15, 2022 11:40 AM

I would just like to offer myself if Henry is in need of comfort right now. Call me, Henry…

by Anonymousreply 51December 15, 2022 11:44 AM

Didn't he shit himself throughout the man of steel shoot because of his weird bulking diet?

by Anonymousreply 52December 15, 2022 11:48 AM

I’m dubious about Bond as well. He’d have to considerably de-bulk to fit the role. Google images of him wearing a suit. He’s a hunk, but he’s not a refined and svelte Bond type. Same issue with Tom Hardy and Richard Madden, but at least Henry is tall.

by Anonymousreply 53December 15, 2022 11:50 AM

Cavill is bland, but I still can't believe they're keeping on wannabe cult leader Miller who assaults people and grooms non-binary teens (with vaginas, of course).

by Anonymousreply 54December 15, 2022 11:59 AM

Superman is one of the easiest roles to cast. "Send us someone who acts stalwart and stiff!" Hardly difficult. They won't have a moment's problem finding another. Although they might make him black or colored to rake in the dollars from that shtick.

He won't get Bond. Babs doesn't want wood. He's got all the money in the world and can go and pork out, and sit on a beach in Italy with a toyboy.

by Anonymousreply 55December 15, 2022 11:59 AM

[quote] WB definitely let him think he was going to come back in that role, then fucked him over. The same WB who is going to bat for that little freak Miller.

It is extremely weird. They must think they’re sitting on either an Oscar winning epic or a huge gold mine with The Flash to back him this far. Firing The Rock and Henry Cavill, but keeping someone on who is literally on trial for child endangerment? I mean……. This very public humiliation is definitely an eyebrow raiser. James Gunn is exceedingly problematic, he’d better be careful who he alienates. He’s not untouchable.

by Anonymousreply 56December 15, 2022 12:12 PM

I do wonder if they will shelve the Flash given the latest developments… they can write it off as a loss if they do it by the end of the year. Zaslav has no intention of running a movie studio, he is simply excited by finding new ways to manipulate the balance sheet.

by Anonymousreply 57December 15, 2022 12:25 PM

Precisely NOBODY wants that Flash movie or its creepy, sociopathic nonbinary freak.

by Anonymousreply 58December 15, 2022 12:42 PM

Henry Cavill officially OUT? It is to laugh.

by Anonymousreply 59December 15, 2022 12:47 PM

Dwayne Johnson is really to blame for all of this, he tried to make a power play and wanted Cavill (whose agent just happens to be Johnson's ex wife), and then Black Adam flopping fucked that all up. And then Johnson leaking a bullshit financials breakdown to Deadline, which just left everyone at WB even more pissed with him.

by Anonymousreply 60December 15, 2022 1:00 PM

I’d like to know how James Gunn, who was effectively canceled and disappeared for a year, has now become the head of a major franchise at a major studio despite doing middling service for their competitor for the better part of a decade. He’s directs slapstick. Who thought it would be a good idea to give him leadership of essentially a giant corporation when he’s such a mess publicly? This has already bitten them in the ass and he hasn’t even managed to get a movie out yet.

Zaslav and Gunn are not long for this world. Stick a fork in WB and DC. They’re done.

by Anonymousreply 61December 15, 2022 1:10 PM

James Gunn is basically a useful idiot for Zaslav. Remember Zaslav's intention is to dismantle Warner Brothers so it can be sold. But he still needs to have some movies in the pipeline because the acquisition may not be complete for two or three years. Enter James Gunn.

by Anonymousreply 62December 15, 2022 1:16 PM

Too bad Marvel already cast its Wonder Man -- Cavill would be perfect as the musclebound, rather dim, movie-star wannabe.

by Anonymousreply 63December 15, 2022 1:20 PM

R35 people wanna see him fired though

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by Anonymousreply 64December 15, 2022 1:22 PM

Henry Cavill is a bad actor with big tits.

by Anonymousreply 65December 15, 2022 1:27 PM

That describes most of Hollywood actors R65. Come to think of it, most actresses too.

by Anonymousreply 66December 15, 2022 1:36 PM

Is Grace Randolph reporting on this with glee?

by Anonymousreply 67December 15, 2022 1:38 PM

R67 she's sitting in her own wet spot.

by Anonymousreply 68December 15, 2022 1:38 PM

[quote]I'm glad about it. Superman should be an American, just as James Bond should always be from the British Isles.

Superman is Canadian.

by Anonymousreply 69December 15, 2022 1:40 PM

R58 maybe if henry were to come out as demisexual he might get the role after all? I remember that he and Demi Lovato once had an interaction on insta...

by Anonymousreply 70December 15, 2022 1:43 PM

Superman is an alien.

by Anonymousreply 71December 15, 2022 1:43 PM

The only possible good that can come of this is that he's now open to make Down Under Cover, which Chris Hemsworth was after him to play opposite. He'd play a male stripper who robs casinos.

by Anonymousreply 72December 15, 2022 1:46 PM

R47 The age-ism! But yeah here in this thread, you can see his hair becoming gray and thinner and he also starts too look like a gay bear. Metabolism can't keep up anymore with his crazy fat-muscles? I don't mind it but the he is probably deemed old now at 40 by hollywood?? A reminder to other stars to quit alcohol and cigarettes.

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by Anonymousreply 73December 15, 2022 1:48 PM

He's a little long in the tooth for "stripper."

by Anonymousreply 74December 15, 2022 1:49 PM

So was JLo but she still made that movie.

by Anonymousreply 75December 15, 2022 1:54 PM

J. Lo has aged better than Cavill.

by Anonymousreply 76December 15, 2022 1:56 PM

Henry Cavill has a handsome face. But that's about it. I don't care how much he works out, when I look at his body, all I can think is that he is too fat to be Superman.

by Anonymousreply 77December 15, 2022 2:01 PM

[Quote] Dwayne Johnson is really to blame for all of this, he tried to make a power play and wanted Cavill (whose agent just happens to be Johnson's ex wife), and then Black Adam flopping fucked that all up. And then Johnson leaking a bullshit financials breakdown to Deadline, which just left everyone at WB even more pissed with him.

If this isn't a sign that he needs to dump Dany (and her friend Natalie) as his girlfriend then he's even dumber than i thought.

[Quote] maybe if henry were to come out as demisexual he might get the role after all? I remember that he and Demi Lovato once had an interaction on insta...

And not long after that she almost died. Good thing they decide "to date".

by Anonymousreply 78December 15, 2022 2:02 PM

I wish all these fucking dumb, idiotic comic book/superhero movies would die in a heaping grease fire.

But we'll probably be bombed off the planet while our incel population argues about the 473,893,012nd reboot of some moronic Super Something fucking canon story.

by Anonymousreply 79December 15, 2022 2:05 PM

Wolves and otters, theys my favorite

by Anonymousreply 80December 15, 2022 2:06 PM

Someone earlier mentioned Wonder Man. He would have been perfect for that. Look-wise he’s perfect but can he do comedy? Anyway the character has already been cast. Henry was in talks at Marvel for something so who knows he might be playing another super hero sooner than later.

by Anonymousreply 81December 15, 2022 2:06 PM

The fitness program Marvel has would help get rid of the bulk he's put on. If they can lean out that tub of guts Pratt, then they can sculpt a hunk like Henry with little effort.

by Anonymousreply 82December 15, 2022 2:09 PM

Maybe they will cast Chris Evans as Superman because of his past experience as the leader of the marvel heroes? I didn't know he existed before I came to datalounge but the more you all mention him, the cuter I find him. So I'd love to see him in the superman costume.

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by Anonymousreply 83December 15, 2022 2:10 PM

R82 how did the enlarged guts get away actually? Was it surgery or a special diet?

by Anonymousreply 84December 15, 2022 2:11 PM

He prayed it away, dear.

by Anonymousreply 85December 15, 2022 2:12 PM

There is only ONE Superman

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by Anonymousreply 86December 15, 2022 2:15 PM

[quote] I didn't know he existed before I came to datalounge

You did not know Chris Evans existed before you found this site?

Are you some sort of mole person?

by Anonymousreply 87December 15, 2022 2:49 PM

I found video of R83 emerging

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by Anonymousreply 88December 15, 2022 2:53 PM

What DL has against Cavill's thick body? Big tits, ass, tights. Is this a gay forum or what...

by Anonymousreply 89December 15, 2022 3:03 PM

Superman is not an easy part to play, he doesnt have much personality and is so clean cut. Christopher Reeve played him as an adorable dork but the other supermans cant find a personality out of it. I dont think Henry with his limited skills and vision succeeded, but I dont think anyone right now would. Superman is a get money and leave franchise.

by Anonymousreply 90December 15, 2022 3:04 PM

r89 The emergency of Timothee Chalamet has created a lot of insane freaks with a human dandelion fetish

by Anonymousreply 91December 15, 2022 3:05 PM

R87 I'm not that interested in comic book heroes and so many actors are called Chris, so I really didn't know. I first read about him on here because of rumors surrounding him. At first I thought what an oaf doing all that stupid stuff but then I found out how polite and friendly he actually is and fell in love *_* Thanks Daytalosch

PS: In my country it was also highlighted in the news that he became sexiest men alive 2022 but everyone in the comment section was like: "who?". So I'm not alone!

by Anonymousreply 92December 15, 2022 3:11 PM

No no no no

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by Anonymousreply 93December 15, 2022 3:38 PM

Good. He has no on-screen presence or charisma or whatever you want to call it. He also can't act for shit. Also, he's a pathetic closet case.

by Anonymousreply 94December 15, 2022 3:46 PM

I can top that r93

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by Anonymousreply 95December 15, 2022 3:57 PM

[Quote] Also, he's a pathetic closet case.

Who used to be a friend of Bryan's 🤔

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by Anonymousreply 96December 15, 2022 4:01 PM

If they make a live-action Archer, he'd be perfect.

by Anonymousreply 97December 15, 2022 4:03 PM

The problem with the Superman films was not Cavill.

by Anonymousreply 98December 15, 2022 4:07 PM

Laverne Cox IS Superthey!

by Anonymousreply 99December 15, 2022 4:09 PM

Timothee looks cute at R95. He’d make a terrible Superman though.

by Anonymousreply 100December 15, 2022 4:15 PM

Henry Cavill deserves another shot at Superman, they've really treated him like shit.

by Anonymousreply 101December 15, 2022 4:18 PM

R99 this can be Superthey’s archenemy, Intersex Luthor

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by Anonymousreply 102December 15, 2022 4:18 PM

I thought I was going to be the next Superman? I forget who told me that.

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by Anonymousreply 103December 15, 2022 4:18 PM

La Belle Corenswet at 30 is probably too old for the new concept Gunn is pitching.

by Anonymousreply 104December 15, 2022 4:19 PM

"Henry Cavill deserves another shot at Superman, they've really treated him like shit."

I think he will be okay, he did well by them.

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by Anonymousreply 105December 15, 2022 4:22 PM

ykw this is good, maybe this would knock him down a peg, and he will finally show his ass for us again

by Anonymousreply 106December 15, 2022 4:25 PM

I wondered how long it would take for some braindead idiot to link to celebrity net worth.com.

by Anonymousreply 107December 15, 2022 4:27 PM

R94- I know Superman was release way back in 1978 so I can't blame him but Christopher Reeve was a closet case too.

by Anonymousreply 108December 15, 2022 4:28 PM

Production Staff: "Your concept is a younger Superman? So are we basically rebooting "Smallville" and sending the Sup back to high school?"

Gunn: "No, think younger. Think Muppet Babies. Superhero babies that fight crime between diaper changes."

by Anonymousreply 109December 15, 2022 4:31 PM

[quote]I'm glad about it. Superman should be an American, just as James Bond should always be from the British Isles.

Superman was created by two Jewish Canadian teenagers, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

by Anonymousreply 110December 15, 2022 4:33 PM

Gunn's new pitch actually mirrors JJ Abrams's awful script for Superman, known as Superman Flyby, which was going to be made by Brett Ratner (who wanted to cast Matt Bomer) and then McG. Fun fact; McG was fired from the film because he was too scared to fly to Australia. Then he was replaced by Bryan Singer who used his own script.

by Anonymousreply 111December 15, 2022 4:35 PM

Another fun fact: Warner Bros was offering to pay Paul Walker a huge amount of money to play Superman. Paul Walker was filming timeline with Richard Donner and asked his advice, and Donner told him to turn it down.

If Paul Walker had said yes, he would have never made The Fast and the Furious, and probably never would have burned to death in a fire.

by Anonymousreply 112December 15, 2022 4:37 PM

So how much more rosewater will he need to peddle now, in order to maintain his lifestyle? What other waters will he try and hawk?

by Anonymousreply 113December 15, 2022 4:39 PM

Who is McG?

by Anonymousreply 114December 15, 2022 4:41 PM

McG was a music video director in the 90s best known for Smash Mouth's All-Star who rebooted Charlie's Angels with Cameron Diaz, Drew Barrymore and Lucy Liu. He still works in television.

by Anonymousreply 115December 15, 2022 4:42 PM

Was it Grace Randolph who said he has a reputation in Hollywood, and it is a well known fact that some directors won't work with him, and that's why he hasn't scored some jobs?

by Anonymousreply 116December 15, 2022 4:43 PM

R116 = Grace Randolph, sitting in her wet spot, trying to find some way to bring Cavill's sexuality into her next broadcast

by Anonymousreply 117December 15, 2022 4:47 PM

I forgot McG produced Supernatural which was on for 15 years so even if he's not a household name he probably has a ton of money.

by Anonymousreply 118December 15, 2022 4:49 PM

[quote] Superman was created by two Jewish Canadian teenagers, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

Superman is an alien that landed in and was raised in the American Midwest. He’s broadly thought of as American. Ask any person on the planet where Superman is from and they’ll say America.

by Anonymousreply 119December 15, 2022 5:04 PM

R119- Clark Kent is American

Superman is a Kryptonitian

by Anonymousreply 120December 15, 2022 5:17 PM

No one cares about your nitpicking, comic incel ^

by Anonymousreply 121December 15, 2022 5:22 PM

Henry Cavill should sue the DC studios for the lost income he would have had with the fourth season of “The Witcher.” He can assert a claim of promissory estoppel.

by Anonymousreply 122December 15, 2022 5:34 PM

Promishory eshtoppel

by Anonymousreply 123December 15, 2022 5:37 PM

Why is every thread you start over 100 replies with at least 75% of the replies being yourself? This isn’t normal.

by Anonymousreply 124December 15, 2022 5:40 PM

R124 I started this thread and this is the first time I'm replying, what the fuck are you even going on about?

by Anonymousreply 125December 15, 2022 6:58 PM

r125 Ignore him, he's a loon who accuses everyone of being the same person. Next thing he'll be accusing you of not being intellectual enough to watch The White Lotus

by Anonymousreply 126December 15, 2022 7:11 PM

Ohhh he's also the OP of another thread about this topic lol, so he's jealous you beat him to it

by Anonymousreply 127December 15, 2022 7:13 PM
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by Anonymousreply 128December 15, 2022 10:36 PM

R125 r126 etc. you’re the same person. Replying to yourself. Maybe you should get your shit together. You have too much time on your hands.

by Anonymousreply 129December 15, 2022 10:41 PM

R125 r126 r127 all the same exact person. This is absolutely weird.

by Anonymousreply 130December 15, 2022 10:42 PM

On another note, he was fired.

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by Anonymousreply 131December 15, 2022 10:43 PM

They really did an underhanded thing to him.

by Anonymousreply 132December 15, 2022 10:44 PM

If he does OnlyFans, I'll support him!

by Anonymousreply 133December 15, 2022 10:44 PM

R127 That explains it, what a weird thing to behave like a schizo over.

by Anonymousreply 134December 15, 2022 10:45 PM

R131 what the fuck do you think this thread is about

Some people are so damn eager to post a link they don’t even bother thinking

by Anonymousreply 135December 15, 2022 10:46 PM

This made the national news in the UK today, well it and the weather!!! Slow news day i guess

by Anonymousreply 136December 15, 2022 10:52 PM

[quote]McG was fired from the film because he was too scared to fly to Australia.

This makes zero sense.

You're a wealthy movie director/producer.

Just take a Michael Jackson cocktail, sleep it off and wake wakey you're in the land down under.

by Anonymousreply 137December 15, 2022 10:58 PM

Gunn was successful with the Suicide Squad movies so they are handing him the reigns. They like his humor mixed with blood and guts. Peacemaker was a hit for HBO as well. Gunn can take very low level characters and make them interesting. Batman and Superman have bene done to death. WW was good but the second movie was terrible. Aquaman was great, we shall see on part 2. Ditto for the Flash. If they are smart they will use that movie to Flashpoint reboot the DC universe into the Gunn DC Universe

by Anonymousreply 138December 15, 2022 11:09 PM

R137 this is absolutely a true and well known story

Warner Brothers even offered to buy out the entire first class of a Qantas flight for him. I’m sure he was offered drugs as well. He finally agreed to go to Oz, but on travel day, he didn’t show up at the airport. He was promptly dropped.

by Anonymousreply 139December 15, 2022 11:15 PM

FYI so much rumor an innuendo about this failed production

-Warner Bros. first choice was Josh Hartnett and they offered him $20 million just for the first movie. He turned it down.

-the final two candidates were the studio’s choice Brendan Fraser and Ratner’s choice Matt Bomer. The studio fired Ratner when he wouldn’t choose Brendan Fraser. They didn’t want to hire an unknown (the rumor that Warner Bros. wouldn’t hire Matt Bomer because they found out he was gay has gained a lot of traction over the years but tons of gay actors get hired for big roles, including, probably, Henry; they simply go in the closet.) Oddly, Fraser and Bomer would costar years later in DC’s Doom Patrol.

-Henry Cavill straight out of high school tested for this role under McG but was deemed too young

by Anonymousreply 140December 15, 2022 11:51 PM

Gunn did ONE Suicide Squad movie and it failed at the box office due to WB’s decision to concurrently release it on HBO Max due to the pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 141December 15, 2022 11:53 PM

Now, he can play James Bond.

by Anonymousreply 142December 15, 2022 11:55 PM

Bomer never did the closet or bearding, he was known as gay in the Industry from day one and it was known he wasn't going to play the game to pretend to be straight. That's why they didn't cast him. Too bad, he would've been excellent as Superman.

by Anonymousreply 143December 16, 2022 12:06 AM

[quote] Precisely NOBODY wants that Flash movie or its creepy, sociopathic nonbinary freak.

They want Keaton and that’s what they’ve been banking on.

by Anonymousreply 144December 16, 2022 12:11 AM

R140 doubt Hartnett is true. He isn’t some big star that they’re willing to throw $20 million at him. He hasn’t been relevant since like 2001.

by Anonymousreply 145December 16, 2022 12:15 AM

[quote] Bomer never did the closet or bearding, he was known as gay in the Industry from day one and it was known he wasn't going to play the game to pretend to be straight.

We are talking about the same man who put his children in the closet for a USA Network original series?

by Anonymousreply 146December 16, 2022 12:16 AM
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by Anonymousreply 147December 16, 2022 12:18 AM

R138. I think this is the answer.

If Momoa is really shifting to Lobo I think it's just an indication of where DC is going. I think Gunn is finished with the big name heroes coming together Justice League style. Lobo is a more unknown character with anti-villain tendencies and, along with Suicide Squad, might indicate they're looking to focus on smaller, quirkier characters.

Superman might get the same treatment as Pattinson's Batman - but in the other direction tonally. So spun off into a separate (?) universe with a younger, more grounded Superman. Probably as optimistic and virtuous as his comic book namesake, and with a more self-contained and interesting story to tell. Who knows if the same will happen with the other big name heroes (WW and Aquaman), but I wouldn't bet against that.

Gunn needs to scrub Snyder's influence over the franchise. Not only because he needs to make his own impression and it's too much baggage, but because Snyder warped the characters quite significantly to tell the story he wanted to tell. His dour, overly-stylized and frankly superficial style of storytelling isn't a good fit for the direction DC needs to go.

by Anonymousreply 148December 16, 2022 12:23 AM

R147 that was for Superman Returns. Not Cavill’s Batman.

by Anonymousreply 149December 16, 2022 12:25 AM

No it was for Superman Flyby, which you would understand if you bothered to read anything.

by Anonymousreply 150December 16, 2022 12:34 AM

Josh Hartnett was offered Superman Returns. Not Man of Steel

by Anonymousreply 151December 16, 2022 12:38 AM

I never said he was offered Man of Steel, you freaking dumbass. He was offered Superman Flyby.

by Anonymousreply 152December 16, 2022 12:51 AM

Flyby would have been awful.

Krypton survived.

Luthor was Kryptonian.

That film would have been awful.

Just gives us a Pfeiffer Catwoman movie. She could still kill it.

by Anonymousreply 153December 16, 2022 1:53 AM

DC needs a movie like Iron Man or Capt American to build around. They Killed WW. Superman is no more. Batman been there done that and Aquaman wants to be Lobo.

by Anonymousreply 154December 16, 2022 3:42 AM

Gunn being hired had nothing to do with Suicide Squad and all to do with GOTG and how Marvel dumped him.

by Anonymousreply 155December 16, 2022 3:46 AM

Gunn’s Suicide Squad was terrible. Unwatchable. He hasn’t made a passable movie since the original Guardians of the Galaxy.

by Anonymousreply 156December 16, 2022 4:31 AM

Cavill is only pretty, he has no range as an actor so no he ain't getting bond. His best hope would be marvel to cast him in something.

by Anonymousreply 157December 16, 2022 4:39 AM

Dc wants to reboot from scratch. The idiot rock thought his garbage movie would be part of the reboot and cavill thought making a cameo and using leverage from fans would get him back as superman, dc is over the snyderverse turd which is why they want clean slate. After the flash movie they'll reboot and recast everyone. Thank fuck no more shutt gal gadot and alcoholic tits asslick as batman.

by Anonymousreply 158December 16, 2022 4:42 AM

Lmao, the snyder fans are desperate. Saying marvel should hire the hack to direct squadron supreme which is marvels copy paste justice league with their own batman, superman and wonder woman and cast the dceu actors in those roles. Marvel wants none of the dceu stink snyder created.

by Anonymousreply 159December 16, 2022 4:46 AM

I really think people are getting tired of these movies. I know I am.

by Anonymousreply 160December 16, 2022 4:49 AM

Squadron supreme

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by Anonymousreply 161December 16, 2022 4:50 AM

OP- I'd be FAR more impressed if you wrote just

Henry Cavill officially OUT

by Anonymousreply 162December 16, 2022 4:51 AM

How does dc not sue marvel? That's literally just wonder woman

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by Anonymousreply 163December 16, 2022 4:53 AM

R157 Marvel might not even be an option at this point, they've been primarily casting really good actors recently.

by Anonymousreply 164December 16, 2022 4:55 AM

Henry Cavill's Immortals movie wasn't all that successful either if I remember. I only watched it to see him with his shirt off but there weren't as many scenes as I thought.

by Anonymousreply 165December 16, 2022 4:59 AM

Henry Cavill is not a leading man. He is, or was, eye candy.

by Anonymousreply 166December 16, 2022 5:01 AM

13:40 He basically ruined his life.

(19:35 lmao the press tour)

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by Anonymousreply 167December 16, 2022 5:07 AM

Did Cavill leave The Witcher afte Season 2 or Season 3?

by Anonymousreply 168December 16, 2022 5:14 AM

Henry failed to become a movie star with his 2013 momentum. It's never going to happen for him. He's to old, to boring and untalented.

by Anonymousreply 169December 16, 2022 5:22 AM

[quote] to

by Anonymousreply 170December 16, 2022 5:24 AM

I actually can't stand him. I find him obnoxious in interviews. I hope he tanks as hard as cristina ricci.

by Anonymousreply 171December 16, 2022 5:29 AM

Grace Randolph sticks the knife into Cavill – again. From the 13.58 minute mark. "he's not well liked in Hollywood for two reasons: he has a huge ego, and he thinks he's a bigger star than he is....and Henry Cavill does not understand how the business works." Then talks about his bodybuilder manager Dany Garcia.

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by Anonymousreply 172December 16, 2022 5:53 AM

Garcia looks strong

by Anonymousreply 173December 16, 2022 6:01 AM

Found this on TheGuardian.com:

[quote] A Black Superman film written by author Ta-Nehisi Coates and produced by JJ Abrams is reportedly still going ahead, and will not be impacted by Gunn’s film.

by Anonymousreply 174December 16, 2022 6:56 AM

His Kryptonite will be Chicken and Waffles.

by Anonymousreply 175December 16, 2022 6:58 AM

[Quote] ykw this is good, maybe this would knock him down a peg, and he will finally show his ass for us again

It's nuts that he begged for The Witcher but refused to go nude. And then gave some bullshit answer in an interview about it.

[Quote] I forgot McG produced Supernatural which was on for 15 years so even if he's not a household name he probably has a ton of money.

He was everywhere in the early 00s and produced a lot of crap (like Terminator Salvation). Although i liked the Charlie's Angels movies and The OC.

[Quote] Another fun fact: Warner Bros was offering to pay Paul Walker a huge amount of money to play Superman. Paul Walker was filming timeline with Richard Donner and asked his advice, and Donner told him to turn it down.

Good on Paul. I can't picture him as Superman at all. But he would have made a better Lois than Kate Bosworth 🤣

by Anonymousreply 176December 16, 2022 8:30 AM

How long till we see a Sun headline of:

Henry: I’m GAY

by Anonymousreply 177December 16, 2022 8:35 AM

LOL at Cavill being used as a pawn by the old guard to pressure the new guys to stay on course with the franchise.

by Anonymousreply 178December 16, 2022 8:44 AM

R177 probably never because he's not gay. He's bi.

by Anonymousreply 179December 16, 2022 8:47 AM

The guy who played Rock Hudson (while looking nothing like Rock Hudson) in Ryan Murphy's "Hollywood" looks like a Superman.

by Anonymousreply 180December 16, 2022 9:30 AM

Grace Randolph's soft r's are very annoying.

by Anonymousreply 181December 16, 2022 9:33 AM

How did Gunn go from cancelled and fired from Guardians of the Galaxy to rehired and then running a studio?

by Anonymousreply 182December 16, 2022 9:57 AM

I like watching Grace Randolph because she almost makes you think braindead CGI'd cartoon movies for fat baby adults actually matter.

by Anonymousreply 183December 16, 2022 10:26 AM

Figures Gunn wanted a young Superman. Now he can audition every young guy in town.

by Anonymousreply 184December 16, 2022 10:38 AM

Gunn's DC stuff is the only I ever liked, but if he keeps on creeper Miller, I'm over it.

by Anonymousreply 185December 16, 2022 10:56 AM

R184 you're making him sound creepy.

by Anonymousreply 186December 16, 2022 11:07 AM

[quote]I hope he tanks as hard as cristina ricci.

You want him to co-star in a much-buzzed about cable series and get an Emmy nomination?

by Anonymousreply 187December 16, 2022 11:09 AM

Henry was great in the UNCLE movie with the cannibal guy that DL is obsessed with. Handsome, charismatic, and funny. I just think he needs the right script and director.

I would rather watch Cavil than Ratboy, Jared Leto or that Neanderthal Driver guy with all of the moles.

by Anonymousreply 188December 16, 2022 11:47 AM

R72 if Henry and Chris appear in a movie together as strippers, my dick might get so hard it spontaneously bursts.

I don't think Henry will get Bond - I heard Aaron Taylor-Johnson was in the running these days, and you know what I can see that working out.

Perhaps Henry needs to stay away from franchises for a while and focus on diversifying his portfolio with a few comedies. We all know that he's not the most charismatic guy around but I think he could shine in the right role.

by Anonymousreply 189December 16, 2022 11:50 AM

Uh, R77 do you have eyes? On what plane of existence is this man 'too fat' to play Superman!?

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by Anonymousreply 190December 16, 2022 11:52 AM

I've never heard of Grace Randolph but DAMN her voice is so fucking grating it cuts right through me. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 191December 16, 2022 12:01 PM

LOL a lot of garbage from Grace as usual

It was obvious Cavill was extremely unhappy with Witcher because of the direction it went in Season 2. Witcher basically started out as a supernatural Western with Cavill as the mysterious cowboy but by Season 2 Hissrich decided she wanted to do World Building and spin-offs and shift the focus to the politics in an attempt to mimic Game of Thrones. I have no idea what happened in Witcher season 2. Who are these people? What’s happening now? It was embarrassing and reminiscent of Westworld’s painful decline. I have a feeling Witcher would have had a vastly diminished season 3 audience even if the fiasco had never taken place. Netflix wanted Witcher to take the ball from the absence of Game of Thrones. Guess what? We have House of the Dragon now, and it’s a huge hit. We don’t need a Game of Thrones imitation. Witcher rather than try to become its own thing, is now a bad imitation of something people already have. It probably would have been cancelled after season 4 if Cavill stayed on because of high costs and diminishing returns, just like Westworld. Especially since Netflix is tightening their belts now after years of reckless spending.

And of course Grace is like, he wants to be a movie star now and then two hours later Cavill announces a Warhammer series for Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 192December 16, 2022 12:06 PM

R179 Same diff.

by Anonymousreply 193December 16, 2022 12:10 PM

I believe the Broccolis have said they want a Bond in his thirties.

I like ATJ and he’s the right age, but LBH they aren’t going to choose someone best known for his mommy-wife to play the world’s biggest stud.

by Anonymousreply 194December 16, 2022 12:11 PM

I do like The Witcher but I must admit I find all the political stuff takes up WAY too much time, I would be fine with it in limited amounts as a bit of backdrop and context but what I really wanted from the show was to see Geralt roaming from town to town slaying monsters and investigating supernatural crimes. It should have started like that and built over time, it was sprawling right from the start and with way too many characters to keep track of.

The spin-off releasing at Christmas looks awesome though!

by Anonymousreply 195December 16, 2022 12:13 PM

I'd say he's also very well known for having a very handsome face, hot body and huge cock R194, which surely are the perfect ingredients for playing a worldwide stud?

by Anonymousreply 196December 16, 2022 12:14 PM

James Gunn is so weird and fragile. He reminds me on Elon Musk. Universal will shitcan an him as soon as it gets control of Warner Bros. Donna Langley is very British and proper.

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by Anonymousreply 197December 16, 2022 12:38 PM

[Quote] Henry was great in the UNCLE movie with the cannibal guy that DL is obsessed with. Handsome, charismatic, and funny. I just think he needs the right script and director.

Which is why i'm curious to see how this next movie with Guy Ritchie goes. Even if it means enduring Eiza's shitty acting.

[Quote] Perhaps Henry needs to stay away from franchises for a while and focus on diversifying his portfolio with a few comedies.

I'm surprised he didn't do more with his production company. It's like he gave up after Stratton.

by Anonymousreply 198December 16, 2022 12:57 PM

Looks like Natalie is finally holding up her end of the deal with Henry.

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by Anonymousreply 199December 16, 2022 1:21 PM

So does all this mean they will release the already filmed Flash, Aquaman 2, and Shazam 2 movies and THEN reboot the universe, or will they shitcan those like they did Batgirl?

I was looking forward to the Black Canary HBO Max movie, but I guess that’s probably not happening either.

by Anonymousreply 200December 16, 2022 1:22 PM

Who keeps flogging this Grace Randolph tranny? Gurl, bye. No one knows or cares who you are or about your irrelevant and incorrect opinions.

by Anonymousreply 201December 16, 2022 1:34 PM

James Gunn is not suitable for a public facing position. He is not a franchise runner. He’s a director who has been coddled like he’s some visionary. I agree he’s not long for this world, and I think he’ll be gone long before any transition with Universal, if it happens.

by Anonymousreply 202December 16, 2022 1:38 PM

Grace Randolph: "he has a huge ego and thinks he's a bigger star than he is".... UH, DOESN'T THAT INCLUDE 100% ALL OF HOLLYWOOD???!!!

by Anonymousreply 203December 16, 2022 2:02 PM

The 2023 releases will go on as planned and I think they will continue with Pattinson’s Batman and its universe.

They will be unable to start a new extended universe because of the widely expected acquisition. When Disney acquired Fox, the old regime films got sidelined. It’s going to be assumed that the same will happen here. Therefore, they will be unable to recruit top talent because everyone assumes the film will be buried by Universal who will want a fresh start. WB launched Man of Steel with a huge and impressive cast (I remember career-peak Amy Adams was a huge get). So while Gunn’s new Superman origin story may get made, it’s going to be made with names from the B list. Like I said, this will be a Superman Returns redux. Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. Kevin Spacey. Some poor sap to be the new Brandon Routh.

by Anonymousreply 204December 16, 2022 2:28 PM

Just saw the Warhammer news. Cavill will inevitably end up stuck in garbage genre shit for the rest of his career, which is (to be fair) about the best he can do with his acting abilities.

by Anonymousreply 205December 16, 2022 4:55 PM

Isn't it rumored he gave a bunch of young actresses herpes?

by Anonymousreply 206December 16, 2022 7:55 PM

r204 we don't need another superman origin story. It is played out. Just like the batman origin. We have seen it. DC can't do an avengers type movie because too many of the main players have multipe actors, dead franchise movies etc. Teen titans are out, been done. They kind of did the JSA in Black Adam but then Stargirl took most of the other characters. They quasi introduced Darksied. I think they should start fresh with the New Gods. No involving earth, or humans, just introduce them all and a war with Apokolips.

by Anonymousreply 207December 16, 2022 8:57 PM

R206 apparently?

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by Anonymousreply 208December 16, 2022 9:29 PM

I still want to know how he became friendly with that Irish drag queen.

by Anonymousreply 209December 16, 2022 9:46 PM

A cool $500,000 for the two Superman cameos (Flash cameo will be cut along with Gal Gadot indicating she is out as WW)

THR blames Dwayne Johnson for using Cavill as a pawn

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by Anonymousreply 210December 16, 2022 10:08 PM

I don't know who this Grace Randolph snatch is, but her voice is enough to make your fucking ears bleed.

by Anonymousreply 211December 17, 2022 1:51 AM

I love her voice. Is that lesbian voice?

by Anonymousreply 212December 17, 2022 3:32 AM

R206 you can thank me for that.

by Anonymousreply 213December 17, 2022 11:34 AM

Grace Randolph is insane, like she's nuts and her crazy eyes look creepy.

by Anonymousreply 214December 18, 2022 7:26 AM

WB begged Todd Philips to take over DC, he said no. No one wanted this job likely for the reason as has already been suggested here:

NBCUniversal is said to be eyeing a purchase of Warner Bros. Discovery, so whatever strategic changes Gunn and Safran make could be jettisoned soon enough anyway. Zaslav denied that WB is for sale during a town hall, but the industry source insisted “they are a cash-poor company being stripped to be sold.”

WBD stock trading at $9 now.

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by Anonymousreply 215December 20, 2022 1:33 PM

That's just sad R215

by Anonymousreply 216December 20, 2022 2:19 PM

The cash poor part got me thinking

If Henry Cavill or Gal Gadot starred in another feature, they’d get $20 million each because of grandfathered pay raises. So obviously recasting them with new actors who would only be paid under a million for the first film makes enormous sense for a cash strapped company. Again this is where Gunn being a useful idiot comes in. Zaslav the penny-pincher avoids the fans wrath, the new Superman film is made with CW caliber talent like Superman Returns, and Universal can come in and reboot everything again once they buy Warner Bros.

by Anonymousreply 217December 20, 2022 2:31 PM

[Quote] Zaslav the penny-pincher avoids the fans wrath, the new Superman film is made with CW caliber talent like Superman Returns

Excuse me?

by Anonymousreply 218December 20, 2022 2:38 PM

r120, I worked on that Flash button- it had Henry, Gal, Sasha (Supergirl), Keaton, and Ezra. I was wondering about it until you posted that article. That said, seeing some of the dailies, I hate to say the Ezra was really appealing.

by Anonymousreply 219December 20, 2022 4:23 PM

Argh I meant r210

by Anonymousreply 220December 20, 2022 4:23 PM

FTC is very anti merger these days. They’ve made several moves in the past few weeks that have or will shut down huge corporations from buying other companies, Microsoft trying to buy Activision, for example.

I’m not at all convinced the FTC will let NBC Universal take WB, nor should they. There’s been entirely too many mergers for the past couple of decades, really. No one is reigning in these companies. I doubt that given the political atmosphere and what an absolute embarrassing public shitshow WB has become that NBCUni will bother.

by Anonymousreply 221December 20, 2022 5:45 PM

FTC allowed Disney to buy Fox’s assets. They can’t backtrack now.

Comcast will not buy all WBD assets, the only ones worth anything to them are Warner Bros and HBO. They don’t need CNN or a dozen reality garbage linear channels.

by Anonymousreply 222December 20, 2022 5:50 PM
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