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Dateline Port Charles: O Charmin-baum

If the Corinthos bowl of moss can have its own thread, then Esme's toilet paper Christmas tree deserves one, too!

Deck the halls with balls of cotton,

Fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la

Locked in the tower, you're forgotten,

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

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by Anonymousreply 348February 3, 2023 6:15 AM

Previous thread:

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by Anonymousreply 1December 14, 2022 6:59 PM

When is Shearoun Stiegele debuting as nuAudrey??

by Anonymousreply 2December 14, 2022 7:15 PM

Is Britt going to suicide in front of all her pals at her birthday bash? How about a murder-suey with Austin?

by Anonymousreply 3December 14, 2022 7:34 PM

I'm going to suicide if they don't wrap up this story. Liesl and Nina moaning about it in the boxing gym is fucking embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 4December 14, 2022 7:47 PM

I’m loving Spencer and Cam with their floppy longish hair.

by Anonymousreply 5December 14, 2022 11:11 PM

Tabyanna's goodbye tweet to Rory actor:

"Good luck in your future endeavors."

Ouch!

I guess she didn't like the pairing either.

by Anonymousreply 6December 15, 2022 8:59 AM

I wonder if there'll be repercussions for tweeting that before he's actually killed on-screen? Oh who am I kidding, I don't care. She needs to go away, too. She looked like a five year old standing next to Joss yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 7December 15, 2022 9:28 AM

I agree, between the annoying hoarse baby voice and her stature she just comes off as a little kid in every scenario, friends, family and potential love interests.

Cameron actor also tweeted "was a pleasure my man" to Rory actor. I don't recall them ever sharing a scene but was definitely a warmer sentiment than Tabyana's.

by Anonymousreply 8December 15, 2022 9:40 AM

Ha ha ha to that mini person homophobe who played Rory. Good fucking riddance. And that baby voiced Trina can follow him out the door.

by Anonymousreply 9December 15, 2022 11:00 AM

Between the opening title & description of this thread and the comments from R7, R8 & R9, it's already more interesting than watching the show 😆 btw, in the latest released ratings for the week of 11/21-11/25, GH is down 62,000 viewers, which could be written off as a holiday week, except Y&R is up 91k while B&B is up 195k for that same week. On a brighter note, GH is experiencing "Season Highs" overall, however, going by their current weekly ratings, they can't afford to sink further away from the Bell soaps than they already are. Frank will do another headwriter swap before he'll allow himself to take the heat lol

by Anonymousreply 10December 15, 2022 2:51 PM

Today was good old fashioned soapyness. Punching, stabbing, longing stares,flatlining.

by Anonymousreply 11December 15, 2022 8:24 PM

MC's entire acting repertoire consists of dead-eyed blinking and staring.

Does FV have an alcohol or substance problem? Why does he make such poor casting decisions?

by Anonymousreply 12December 15, 2022 9:50 PM

Frank is long overdue to be fired. That’s bullshit that only he can manage the budget. We change presidents every 4 or 8 years but there’s no one else in the world who can manage a soap opera budget???? Please.

by Anonymousreply 13December 15, 2022 10:40 PM

How were they able to determine that the hook killer is attempting to kill anyone connected to Joss, when it's clearly ppl that are connected to Trina? Her mentor Ava, Joss (which ended up being Brando), her lawyer Diane, the guy who could've helped Trina's case, now her boyfriend Rory. Joss isn't even acting like anyone who has a killer after them, for she's too wrapped up in Dex and hiding it from Cameron. If it's the other lawyer in Trina's case, then that's a weak copout. If anything, the idea some of you had where Trina has somewhat of an alternate identity who's breaking from reality and is stabbing ppl without any knowledge of it is intriguing, however I don't think the writers nor the actress can handle a story of that magnitude.

by Anonymousreply 14December 15, 2022 11:12 PM

R12 There's a longstanding rumor that Frank likes the booger sugar lol however you can take that with a grain of salt, or in this case, sugar.

by Anonymousreply 15December 15, 2022 11:15 PM

I'm going to take a "stab" in the dark and say that the Hooker is Finn's dad, Gregory Harrison. Motivation? Because all the stories have to revolve around Finn.

by Anonymousreply 16December 15, 2022 11:22 PM

I wouldnt mind if someone would hook Finn. I can't stand him. Couldn't stand him on OLTL and I can't stand him now.

by Anonymousreply 17December 15, 2022 11:42 PM

[quote]I'm going to take a "stab" in the dark and say that the Hooker is Finn's dad, Gregory Harrison. Motivation? Because all the stories have to revolve around Finn.

That would explain why they put Gregory Harrison on contract back in August.

If Finn's dad is the Hookler, they needed to make sure he was available when it came time for the reveal.

by Anonymousreply 18December 16, 2022 12:17 AM

MC still horsing around with Mo. I'm disappointed in Kin fraternizing with these two. Comments are turned off probably due to the firing rumors.

Is that Mo's house?

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by Anonymousreply 19December 16, 2022 12:18 AM

The show plays fast and loose with timelines, but it seems pretty clear from this stabbing that Trina was elsewhere when it happened. It also probably would have been too difficult to for this actress to portray that Trina had a schizophrentic break.

They've also made it clear that the killer is a woman. Now seems they're going back to the easiest answer - the asst DA who tried to get Trina in jail

by Anonymousreply 20December 16, 2022 12:40 AM

[quote]Is Britt going to suicide in front of all her pals at her birthday bash?

Reminds me of the film "It's My Party" starring Eric Roberts and GH's very own Gregory Harrison as his love interest. The Eric Roberts character is stricken with terminal AIDS and decides to have one last bash before he ends it, which he does, surrounded by all his friends and loved ones. Not literally in front of them, he sneaks off to his bedroom to do it, but still.

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by Anonymousreply 21December 16, 2022 6:29 AM

I'm sticking with the Assistant DA as the hook theory, as lame as it is. The whole story has been lame.

I will say, the last few minutes yesterday were actually pretty compelling, even though I don't care about anyone involved.

I hope NLG does get canned so she can write her bridge-burning book and never work again.

by Anonymousreply 22December 16, 2022 9:47 AM

The fact that NLG refuses to do Cassadine storylines alone should be grounds for her dismissal or at least downgrade to recurring.

Last year they did a comical Cassadine Thanksgiving where they ALL got together and bickered. I was hoping they would make it a yearly tradition but no such thing this year. NLG driven decision?

by Anonymousreply 23December 16, 2022 10:04 AM

Nik was especially catatonic today during his big divorce scene.

by Anonymousreply 24December 16, 2022 2:46 PM

Actors act and writers write. No actor should be able to dictate what stories they do. Fire Nancy if she refuses to comply.

by Anonymousreply 25December 16, 2022 2:46 PM

Catatonic is the perfect description of MC. Send him back to the sea org.

by Anonymousreply 26December 16, 2022 2:49 PM

[quote]Actors act and writers write. No actor should be able to dictate what stories they do. Fire Nancy if she refuses to comply.

Absolutely! No actor should ever have storyline approval, much less have the power to rewrite dialogue.

by Anonymousreply 27December 16, 2022 5:49 PM

Will both of these babies survive? At first, it looks like Esme's baby would be the goner, but the child already has stronger GH legacy ties - Cassadine, grandchild of Ryan and Heather Webber, Kevin, etc.

The other baby might die of boredom being the offspring of Michael and Willow. And storyline-wise, the child is still just another Wiley.

by Anonymousreply 28December 18, 2022 4:09 AM

When Diane was attacked in Brando's garage, she said the hooker was wearing something like a jangly charm bracelet. Well, last week Heather was describing just such a chain that she took from the cabin when she left, with the "charms" being little souvenirs (from his victims, I assume) Ryan was keeping on the chain. Now let's see if she's missing a large gold hoop earring...

by Anonymousreply 29December 18, 2022 7:20 AM

We'll see if the writers even remember the charm bracelet. What's it been, 3 years since Avery found the heart necklace in the woods? And that mother/daughter mess still isn't resolved.

by Anonymousreply 30December 18, 2022 9:37 AM

Heather was referring to a charm that Esme used to track down her birth father, Ryan.

We saw that Esme was still trapped in the tower so she can't be the hooker

by Anonymousreply 31December 18, 2022 1:14 PM

Of course Esme isn't the hooker. Someone in production likes her.

After Frank decided that Nelle and Michael had too much chemistry to pursue the "Nelle is Carly's daughter given away in Florida" story, thus avoiding revisiting the classic Carly destroys Bobbie's life, I have ZERO belief that GH can pull off an interesting maternity/paternity story. Making Heather and Ryan Esme's parents is a fanboy copout.

by Anonymousreply 32December 18, 2022 3:04 PM

[quote]Heather was referring to a charm that Esme used to track down her birth father, Ryan.

Yes, but it was just one piece of the whole. Heather said that when E was a baby she reached up and grabbed at the chain, yanking off one of the dangling charms. It sounded like H still has the rest of it. Even if she's not the hooker, this chain could still cause a lot of trouble since they implied the charms were souvenirs of Ryan's victims. Maybe Heather gets blamed for some of Ryan's kills, or offers it up to cut a deal for herself.

by Anonymousreply 33December 18, 2022 6:33 PM

Alan Sarapa and Frank Valentini write this show. Co- headwriters!

by Anonymousreply 34December 18, 2022 9:59 PM

what a bitch

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by Anonymousreply 35December 19, 2022 4:56 PM

Fuck Coloma. Who needs future employment when they can just shit where they eat? He will not be missed.

Bring back Adam Huss.

by Anonymousreply 36December 19, 2022 5:12 PM

I really hope Ava (or Esme or Liz or Spencer) puts Nikolas out of his dumb misery.

by Anonymousreply 37December 19, 2022 5:40 PM

Adios! Au Revoir! Auf wiedersehen!

Go back to the sea org or thetan headquarters in Clearwater, you lame excuse for an actor.

by Anonymousreply 38December 19, 2022 5:54 PM

[quote]Marcus Coloma has been written out of General Hospital, according to set side sources. The actor, who joined the soap as Prince Nikolas Cassadine in 2019, reportedly declined to film his final scenes after learning he'd been let go.

Why doesn't surprise me that he's refusing to film his final scenes.

His firing is three years overdue.

by Anonymousreply 39December 19, 2022 5:59 PM

Nikolas should be on canvas. They’d be stupid not to have a recast on deck.

MC wasn’t right for the role but you have to admit, his Nikolas got really shitty writing from the start.

by Anonymousreply 40December 19, 2022 6:15 PM

Kirsten Storms, Sleepy Monaco, Duelly, Willow actress, Michael Easton and Roger Howarth should be axed next.

by Anonymousreply 41December 19, 2022 6:17 PM

So dancing with Mo doesn't guarantee job security?

by Anonymousreply 42December 19, 2022 6:20 PM

Why is Michael Fairman tagging MC in the announcement? Makes it difficult to express a negative opinion. I suppose that's the point since so far only compliments for MC. Fairman trying to get MC some sympathy? Fairman have a crush?

by Anonymousreply 43December 19, 2022 6:43 PM

Well, Phyllis is still alive after all.

by Anonymousreply 44December 19, 2022 9:04 PM

If Maura doesn't tweet well wishes to MC I will take that as confirmation the rumors they had a falling out are true.

by Anonymousreply 45December 19, 2022 9:16 PM

Frank is no dummy. This kind of BTS drama distracts online commenters from the fact that TPTB have no idea how to wrap up the hook story, deal with Sprina's lack of chemistry, or how to write Joss's reaction to Dex having been born Danielle.

by Anonymousreply 46December 19, 2022 9:41 PM

That’s a pretty dumb assumption, R45. First, she’s hardly ever on Twitter. Second, you have no idea what’s been said to who and when bts. I wish folks would stop using social media as the center of everything. Plain and simple, they cycled out his contract like they did with Emme Rylan recently and Becky Herbst back in 2011, except Becky’s firing caused a major backlash.

by Anonymousreply 47December 20, 2022 5:27 AM

Are they killing Nik off?

by Anonymousreply 48December 20, 2022 6:26 AM

[quote]Are they killing Nik off?

I doubt it, but they may have him go disappear for an extended time to Cassadine Island or some such. Between Esme's imprisonment, the taped confession that Ava is holding and Heather and Ryan's vow to make him pay, he has plenty to run away from right now.

by Anonymousreply 49December 20, 2022 6:33 AM

r47, I was thinking the same thing about you! It's pretty dumb of you to assume that I value your opinion.

by Anonymousreply 50December 20, 2022 9:11 AM

Watros is really slipping into Annie Dutton mode. Her raised voice and exaggerated expressions are a lot.

by Anonymousreply 51December 20, 2022 10:41 AM

I want Marcus Coloma inside me - quite deeply!

by Anonymousreply 52December 20, 2022 12:20 PM

With Nina telling Phyllis how important she is and saying "what would I do without you" I'm wondering if Phyllis is about to get hooked. Or maybe she is the hooker.

by Anonymousreply 53December 20, 2022 1:32 PM

Shocking news! Sonya Eddy, who played Epiphany, has died!!! She was only 55 years old.

No cause of death has been reported yet.

by Anonymousreply 54December 20, 2022 7:05 PM

Wow!

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by Anonymousreply 55December 20, 2022 7:07 PM

RIP Sonya…just when Epiphany was getting a promotion and a boyfriend. She’ll be missed.

by Anonymousreply 56December 20, 2022 7:15 PM

Very sad. Loved Epiphany. Have always wanted the current regime to feature her more.

And Sonya had so much personality. She will be missed.

by Anonymousreply 57December 20, 2022 7:21 PM

Dibs on her scrubs.

by Anonymousreply 58December 20, 2022 7:27 PM

And as usual, no cause of death given.

by Anonymousreply 59December 20, 2022 8:05 PM

What happened? I'm assuming an illness, a heart attack or maybe an accident. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 60December 20, 2022 8:06 PM

Anorexia, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 61December 20, 2022 8:16 PM

She had a fat ass but she couldn't live forever.

by Anonymousreply 62December 20, 2022 9:05 PM

R.I.P. to Sonya Eddy she was an amazing talent.

by Anonymousreply 63December 20, 2022 9:29 PM

Bob Iger's intentions to spin ABC/ESPN away from Disney next year could be a good thing for GH, since that may bring more creativity without having to be directly under the Disney umbrella of virtues lol however it could also mean GH possibly going to a streaming service, such as Hulu. Frank will obviously still have storyline control though maybe this will keep Disney from directly controlling stories as well.

by Anonymousreply 64December 20, 2022 9:36 PM

Well I’m sure the weight didn’t help.

by Anonymousreply 65December 20, 2022 9:49 PM

Jmo, an organization for Scientology accused Disney of being hypocrites in 2018, during the Shiloh cult storyline, followed by Frank's "refusal" to give Michelle a raise (and instead asked her to take a pay cut) in 2019, resulting in her becoming irate with him while jumping ship to Y&R (where her friend Josh Griffith paid her what she wanted) combined with bts executive changes over the summer, prior to Johnny Wactor's exit, then Bob Iger's return, and now Marcus exiting, it's not too far of a reach for everyone who's connecting this to Scientology lol. Not saying the incident with Maura couldn't have been a reason, however the Scientology peddling has seemed to be a problem. Johnny Wactor was also accused of being an asshole to certain ppl, and he was a part of this group of "good old boys" that consisted of Mo, Steve, Ingo and Marcus, and look who's the last man standing lol

by Anonymousreply 66December 20, 2022 9:55 PM

Has Chrissy Metz released a statement yet?

by Anonymousreply 67December 20, 2022 10:06 PM

Sorry to hear about Sonya Eddy. She was one of the few things about the show that I liked.

by Anonymousreply 68December 20, 2022 10:14 PM

The show already has several alternatives ready to easily to recast Nic, but it would be very difficult for them to recast Epiphany, so it's likely that the character also will die But it speaks volumes of how talented and memorable Sonya was.

by Anonymousreply 69December 20, 2022 11:32 PM

They’re definitely not going to recast. Sure she was a fan favorite but that would be a waste. Kill her onscreen and do a decent send off for the character.

by Anonymousreply 70December 20, 2022 11:41 PM

Maybe she'll go to medical school at Harvard and then practice in a needy community.

by Anonymousreply 71December 21, 2022 12:02 AM

They should take Hatman with her whatever they do.

by Anonymousreply 72December 21, 2022 12:29 AM

According to TMZ, she died from an infection after surgery.

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by Anonymousreply 73December 21, 2022 5:13 AM

And Austin, Fat Maxie and Finn too R72

by Anonymousreply 74December 21, 2022 5:14 AM

Agreed Epiphany's death should be on-screen sometime Feb/Mar, doubt they'll recast. It'll also give Hatman more storyline with other characters mourning her as well, or they might wait to have her death near their Nurse's Ball, where she'll be honored.

by Anonymousreply 75December 21, 2022 6:45 AM

Maybe they'll give her job to Elizabeth so we can stop hearing about how poor she is.

by Anonymousreply 76December 21, 2022 9:31 AM

So were Octavia and Sonya scissor sisters? Neither ever married. Hmmmmmm. What a visual!

by Anonymousreply 77December 21, 2022 10:32 AM

R9 How is the Rory actor a homophobe?

by Anonymousreply 78December 21, 2022 12:09 PM

Also, what are the odds they bring back Tyler Christopher (the one and ONLY NC)?

by Anonymousreply 79December 21, 2022 12:13 PM

They need someone with gravitas and a commanding presence in the Nik role.

Tyler burned bridges and caused a lot of production problem$ with his behavior. However, stranger re-hires have happened in soap history and on tv in general (i.e. Charlie Sheen). The fact that DOOL hired him after GH despite his problems being known speaks to ratings being the number one concern and a multitude of sins being forgiven in the pursuit of ratings. Of course DOOL regretted it...

I suppose there is a very slim chance they might give TC a limited opportunity that stipulates he be accompanied by a sober coach and only on a recurring basis as opposed to contract so they aren't locked in with him. His looks have faded so some of the attraction is gone. He looked rather dumpy on Mo's youtube show, in my opinion. Actually, his looks had faded even before he left GH, bloated, sweaty and looking older than his years. Personally, I'd rather they find someone else and make a sound decision this time not just who Maura liked kissing or whatever her lame reason for wanting MC was.

by Anonymousreply 80December 21, 2022 12:40 PM

Unpopular opinion, but they'd be fine killing this character off. If this show still wrote dramatic stories, it would give Genie, Chavez, West and others, lots of meaty material, and months of story around wills, property, co-habitating on the island, etc. Coloma (and the writing) has ruined Nik for me.

by Anonymousreply 81December 21, 2022 12:49 PM

Has Genie lost any weight yet? They dress her in ‘slimming’ black all the time. Remember when she bitched about Carol Scott shaking her head at Genie’s weight?

by Anonymousreply 82December 21, 2022 4:34 PM

Adam Huss was a perfectly acceptable Nikolas when he subbed a few weeks back.

Competent actor. Could play subtext. Had the physical presence to play Nikolas and was the right age (ie. he wasn't a scrawny looking man who appeared to be five years older than Spencer).

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by Anonymousreply 83December 21, 2022 5:27 PM

Huss was and would be great. Let's see what Frank decides.

by Anonymousreply 84December 21, 2022 5:30 PM

Alan wants Jordi Vilasuso as NuNuNik so that’ll probably end up happening.

by Anonymousreply 85December 21, 2022 5:37 PM

Who is Alan?

by Anonymousreply 86December 21, 2022 5:39 PM

I know R85 is probably a troll, but Jordi would actually be great. 41 is the perfect age, and he's got the chops.

by Anonymousreply 87December 21, 2022 6:02 PM

It feels like they’re writing Nik off, though. The character is backed into an irredeemable corner. His scenes opposite Spencer yesterday were incredibly sad (mostly because Chavez is so good, but still).

by Anonymousreply 88December 21, 2022 6:19 PM

You know the actress who plays Phyllis killed Sonya Eddy so that she could get Epiphany's storylines. The quickest way to becoming a doctor and gaining a love interest (Hat Man).

by Anonymousreply 89December 21, 2022 7:21 PM

Alan is Alan Sarapa, the social media HOTTIE (my god he’s gorgeous, lol) who knows everything about soaps, along with equally HOT CaseySHutch ( a FAT slob). These twitter queens should shut the fuck up. They embarrass themselves.

by Anonymousreply 90December 21, 2022 7:50 PM

So Maura and Marcus had an affair that went bad????? WOW!!!!

by Anonymousreply 91December 21, 2022 8:02 PM

^^^I wouldn't be surprised. Her over the top defense of him in the beginning and cheerleading him on social media calling him her "prince" was too much.

A DLer reported a few years ago that LW was able to get the Dillon actor fired just for refusing her advances. An affair gone wrong with a lead actress would definitely result in the newbie getting canned.

Whatever the case, I'm glad blandy mcblanderson MC is gone.

Also, ABC better be on standby, the scientologists are a litigious bunch....

by Anonymousreply 92December 21, 2022 8:38 PM

YES ! Phyllis in as new head nurse!

by Anonymousreply 93December 21, 2022 9:36 PM

It wouldn't be too farfetched for Jordi Vilasuso to play Nik, seeing how Frank loves to dip from the Y&R/AMC wells. If anything, I can see Adam Huss filling in again to finish Marcus' exit scenes, then Nik being brought back down the line with him or someone else in the role. The temp actors aren't always the permanent recast however there are exceptions to every rule.

by Anonymousreply 94December 21, 2022 9:50 PM

Esme as Heather and Ryan's offspring would've worked better with Robin Mattson, for I could actually see her as a mini combination of both actors, casting wise.

by Anonymousreply 95December 21, 2022 9:55 PM

If Phyllis applies for the Head Nurse job, she better not stand at the top of any stairs with Liz around.

by Anonymousreply 96December 21, 2022 10:14 PM

So was Epifany having the FAT surgery??

by Anonymousreply 97December 21, 2022 10:31 PM

R96 Your post needs classic organ music at the end.

by Anonymousreply 98December 21, 2022 10:38 PM

Sure was a lot of Disney merchandise in yesterday's episode.

by Anonymousreply 99December 22, 2022 2:25 PM

Slight tangent: this Donny and Marie special with none other than Lady Geary.....trying valiantly to land a note or two.

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by Anonymousreply 100December 22, 2022 4:21 PM

This never fails to make me laugh

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by Anonymousreply 101December 22, 2022 4:23 PM

I find it curious that Kin Shriner follows Scott Baio on twitter.

Isn't Kin gay? Yeah, yeah I know, Kin's "girlfriend" plays the blonde waitress at the Metro Court but that doesn't mean anything in Hollyweird.

by Anonymousreply 102December 23, 2022 12:42 AM

Good ep today! Lots of laugh out loud moments coupled with all the Christmasy feelz.

The writers couldn't have been more prescient about the current weather conditions.

by Anonymousreply 103December 23, 2022 10:14 PM

There is NO reason for Howarth to still be on this show. You could literally see him glowering in the background today. Put him out of his (and our) misery.

by Anonymousreply 104December 23, 2022 10:28 PM

Frank should have a surplus in the budget now that Nik Manuel-Miranda is gone. He couldn't spring for a live baby?

by Anonymousreply 105December 23, 2022 10:43 PM

When does Tony Geary prance back onstage? He committed to coming back for the 60th.

by Anonymousreply 106December 23, 2022 11:36 PM

Today’s episode was terrible. I miss the real Q days. Edward, Alan, Tracy, Lila and the staff - who really made the holiday episodes so entertaining. Was Monica upstairs sleep? Geez.

And holy shit, does wardrobe even bother with KSt anymore? Hilarious little Georgie begged her to not be “fashionably late.” Maxie looked like shit. The slathered on makeup, the cheap 15 piercings in each ear, bad roots, NO NECK. Recast already.

by Anonymousreply 107December 24, 2022 1:43 AM

I love how Olivia mentioned Monica was upstairs and still not feeling well at the beginning of the episode. Then they have the fucking Virgin Mary screaming her fucking ass off giving birth with 3 other doctors trying to delivery a baby. Monica didn't hear any of the commotion? BTW Maxie looks like shit all the time, I was hoping the private jet was going to crash because they forgot to de-ice the wings!

by Anonymousreply 108December 24, 2022 3:13 AM

deliver not delivery

by Anonymousreply 109December 24, 2022 3:19 AM

I’ve heard LC wants to retire completely. I know she had a fall a few months ago. It’s time to make some kind of decision about the character if she can’t/ won’t return for episodes every now and then.

by Anonymousreply 110December 24, 2022 5:52 AM

And KSt can barely talk with that thick tree trunk that’s replaced her neck. She’s very difficult to look at.

by Anonymousreply 111December 24, 2022 5:53 AM

Maybe Monica and Epiphany should run off together offscreen.

by Anonymousreply 112December 24, 2022 6:33 AM

I was only half paying attention and was surprised to see Ellie Trout. Has she even been on once in a decade? And is she shacking up with Griffin? These writers just pull shit out of their ass all the time.

by Anonymousreply 113December 24, 2022 9:37 AM

Is Griffin coming back?

by Anonymousreply 114December 24, 2022 9:59 AM

Did Lezzy Charleson and Sonja ever bump pussies???

by Anonymousreply 115December 24, 2022 11:25 AM

Have they acknowledged Sonya's death yet? I keep looking up the actors on IG to see who's posting about it. MB hasn't. LW liked a comment. Ryan Carnes liked a comment. Finola, Amy the nurse, and someone else who can't remember made nice posts. And some cast members from "Those Who Can't" did as well

by Anonymousreply 116December 25, 2022 2:21 PM

I noticed tributes for Sonya from co-stars on twitter from Britt, Liesl, Nurse Amy, Felix and the other nurse whose name I don't know and Mrs. Wu.

The only acknowledgements Marcus Coloma got of his sacking were from Maurice and Finola. No Maura, No Genie, No Chavez, No Avery, No Charles Shaughnessy who is constantly on twitter. No one. Nada.

by Anonymousreply 117December 25, 2022 7:12 PM

Wasn't even aware that LW liked a comment about it lol since she didn't say anything. I know ppl grieve differently except there was an outpouring from Steve (Jason), Finola (Anna), Nancy (Alexis), Kelly T. (Britt), Lisa (Olivia), Kim (Robin) with Kirsten (Maxie) & Lexi (Kristina) commenting under Kim's tribute, also Sebastian (Jerry) from what I'm remembering without looking so there may be more, although nothing I've seen from Maurice.

by Anonymousreply 118December 25, 2022 8:18 PM

About Marcus lol alot of ppl are rubbed the wrong way when someone has a heavy involvement in Scientology. Others have mentioned it here; not everyone's interested in it & lots of ppl consider it a cult.

by Anonymousreply 119December 25, 2022 8:30 PM

I'm regifting a Christmas gift to you all 😃 these are soap opera blind items from Soap Opera Digest, courtesy of Soap Opera Network:

1. Regarding the performer terrorizing the show's cast/crew, including "unleashing their fury on. producers, directors, and other crew," the. magazine notes, "Staff does their best to avoid. contact, but co-stars and key departments are. forced to smile and play nice to not upset. production. It's a tense situation."

2. With COVID testing and positive outcomes becoming a regular part of our everyday lives, it's a wonder why "This soap is keeping a lid on which cast member, who figures prominently in a current storyline, [that] tested positive for Covid and had to quarantine at home."

3. According to the magazine, "An actor declined to name his/her significant other, although that person's identity is prominently displayed on social media." The answer is maybe too evident if you ask us.

4. A leading lady on her soap is threatened by the "rising storyline prominence of a more recent hire."

5. Meanwhile, two familiar faces will be "on this soap in the coming weeks."

by Anonymousreply 120December 25, 2022 9:00 PM

no 2 puzzles me... why would that be a big deal anymore??

no 3 is the guy who plays Adam on Y&R, the actress who plays Sally is all over his SM

by Anonymousreply 121December 25, 2022 9:13 PM

I’d say no. 4 is Sharon Case and Melissa Claire Egan from Y&R or Eden McCoy and Tabyana Ali from GH.

by Anonymousreply 122December 25, 2022 11:08 PM

4. B&B's Brooke jealous of NuTaylor.

by Anonymousreply 123December 25, 2022 11:13 PM

R121 I think it's because the vaccination policies aren't in place on the Sony produced shows, so they are possibly trying to avert any negative press/attention they could receive by reporting on a positive case. GH is the only soap where there's constant reporting on an actor/actress contracting Covid, which up until recently had the vaccine mandate. It's tough to believe that GH is the only soap where they're still catching it.

by Anonymousreply 124December 25, 2022 11:34 PM

The first blind item is young Mr. Chavez.

by Anonymousreply 125December 25, 2022 11:39 PM

r116 LW tweeted "💔💔" in reply to a tweet confirming SE's death.

by Anonymousreply 126December 26, 2022 1:04 AM

I guess I could've looked for it but...This is nice.

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by Anonymousreply 127December 26, 2022 10:41 AM

Also, this guy gets A LOT of flack here but this fucker is HOTTTT

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by Anonymousreply 128December 26, 2022 10:43 AM

Poor Sonya had the anorexia.

by Anonymousreply 129December 26, 2022 11:54 AM

Sarah Joy Brown will be on Mo's show next Sunday, Jan 1st.

I wonder what her mental health issue is or if she's going to instead talk about her daughter's father blackballing her career. What happened with her on Cold Case? Was she too difficult or did her ex have a hand in her dismissal? A few years ago all she talked about on SM was how he sabotaged her career.

Also, I thought SJB had issues with MB and SB. They must have resolved their differences or she just needs exposure.

by Anonymousreply 130December 26, 2022 12:04 PM

Hmmm...

by Anonymousreply 131December 26, 2022 12:25 PM

Scoche Marin (Kay Chancellor, Y&R) refuses to go on Mo’s show. He has invited her so much that she has changed her phone number.

by Anonymousreply 132December 26, 2022 2:48 PM

She’s rarely on Twitter but I would have liked to hear something from Becky Herbst. She worked with Sonya the most and both have mentioned in multiple interviews how good friends they were. I understand not everyone has to take everything to social media though.

by Anonymousreply 133December 26, 2022 6:22 PM

Has Genie been on Mo’s show yet? That’s an episode I’d watch.

by Anonymousreply 134December 26, 2022 6:23 PM

r130 Has Vanessa Marcil been on yet? Lord knows she has plenty of issues she could talk about.

by Anonymousreply 135December 26, 2022 6:29 PM

Months ago Mo said Vanessa was filming an episode.

by Anonymousreply 136December 26, 2022 6:35 PM

R134 Sarah never really had serious issues with Maurice or Steve, she had slight disagreements with them, and she later vented about how there was a pay discrepancy when it came to her getting paid less than the both of them, though she didn't fault either one. Any issues with MB or SB were not nearly to the extent of her main issues with Wendy Riche, Bob Guza and Tony Geary, then in more recent years, Vanessa Marcil (they fell out after being friends for years). Tamara had the most issues with Maurice and Steve out of all the Carly's lol (along with her also having serious issues with Guza and Jill Farren Phelps).

Sarah's mental issues seemed to stem from being gaslighted by her ex, even if she had underlying issues before, he brought them to the surface. Some were saying she had somewhat of a mental breakdown and needed to stay away from social media outlets. He blackballed her career in soaps particularly with Sony and especially outside of soaps; she quit GH both times on her own, and she also quit ATWT, however things got a little tricky at Sony with B&B/Days (B&B dropped her from contract to recurring after a little over a year, in a "storyline dictated decision" then she was out almost immediately after that. She was fired from DAYS in yet another "storyline dictated decision" as a result of a hw change and Sony refused to rehire her at B&B or at Y&R). Sarah stated that Sony didn't want her on their shows as a result of being blackballed.

Yes Sarah was fired from Cold Case. They told her that she wasn't exactly a good fit without any further explanations given. Her termination was most likely because of her ex.

by Anonymousreply 137December 26, 2022 7:07 PM

What were the issues between Tamara and Mo/Steve?

Is that part of the reason she left Dool so she would not have to deal with SB?

by Anonymousreply 138December 26, 2022 7:28 PM

Sorry R134 that was meant for R130 (what was posted at R137)

by Anonymousreply 139December 26, 2022 8:04 PM

R138 Tamara fell out with Steve and Maurice when their backstage antics and politics didn't exactly align or sit well with hers (tanking scenes; trying to get ppl fired; the favoritism they received, etc.) although she was close with Ted King (Lorenzo) who was another person that Maurice didn't particularly care for, and Alicia Leigh Willis (Courtney), so it was pretty cliquish when it came to Maurice/Steve's crew against Tamara's with Ted & Alicia's. However, Tamara has seemed to somewhat resolved her issues with them by the time she returned in 2017 (even though she was cast as Kim, Frank/ABC were planning to bring her back as Carly, for in early 2016, Laura Wright had planned to quit GH and join Y&R in the Fall of 2017, when her contract was up, however when her friend Jill Farren Phelps was fired from Y&R a year prior, that derailed her plans so she stayed at GH, so Kim was made for her, and she eventually fell out with Frank over the direction they took Kim in, resulting in her contract not being renewed) so no that's not the reason why she's leaving Days.

by Anonymousreply 140December 26, 2022 8:17 PM

Maurice openly admitted to bullying Tamara in his book to the point where he made her cry. They were cool until Carly fell for Lorenzo and that pairing became a bigger hit with viewers than Sam and Sonny. He would trash the storyline/pairing to her face and one day she burst into tears. Ted King also said things changed bts during that story. He was friends with Mo up until that point.

by Anonymousreply 141December 27, 2022 3:06 AM

I guess I'm naïve, because I really don't understand what an actor could get from "tanking" scenes. What's the benefit?

by Anonymousreply 142December 27, 2022 3:15 AM

Can input from fans affect story arcs, casting/recasting?

by Anonymousreply 143December 27, 2022 3:18 AM

Fans seemed to like Rebecca Budig's Hayden, but they canned her twice. People detested Wes Ramsey's Peter, but they kept him through his entire contract. Fans disliked Coloma as Nik, but I think his firing is more a result of backstage antics than what the audience wants. I've read that focus groups are what made Sonny the king of Port Charles, and we've been paying for that for decades.

by Anonymousreply 144December 27, 2022 9:17 AM

R141 Correct I didn't read his book however those stories were legendary on the old soap message boards, where insiders would share bts gossip, storyline scoops, casting news before they made it to the mainstream soap media, everything in between. Maurice was jealous of CarLo taking off and yes Sonny & Sam flopped (similarly to how Jax & Sam flopped before them, only for Sam to finally take off in a pairing and shed somewhat of her image if being labeled as "yet another Brenda Bot" with Jason, breaking up Jason/Courtney, which actually had a fan base of their own. Jason/Elizabeth, Jason/Brenda had their legions of fans too, even though Jason/Brenda were a marriage of convenience and not actually a couple, had Vanessa chose to stay, they were going for a Brenda/Jason/Carly/Sonny/Skye/Jax sextet of sorts). Jason has always had more popular pairings than Sonny; Maurice wasn't expecting CarLo's popularity to be as big as it was; Guza had Carly & Sonny reunite (Guza and Tamara clashed- he hardly ever wrote in her favor; Chuck Pratt was her friend so he would do his best to write more favorably for Carly, as would Elizabeth Korte, who's always been a fan of Carly's, no matter who played her). That's when the Kristina paternity lie came out, and Sonny dumped Carly seemingly "for good" only for Sonny to then eventually meet and fall in love with Reese, which Maurice was hoping would be a big romance for Sonny, only for them to flop too. Jennifer Bransford's Carly would've reunited with Sonny, and he advocated for her to stay, though they were planning to get rid of her all along for Laura Wright, who's Carly was meant for Jax. Skate (Sonny & Kate) and his pairing with Claudia were two pairings that finally gave him buzz again in regards to being in a couple, and obviously of course Brenda's return in 2010.

by Anonymousreply 145December 27, 2022 12:08 PM

R142 The benefit of tanking scenes is to not having to continue working with a certain actor or in a particular storyline that isn't exactly to an actor/actresses' liking, so they can tank the scenes in hopes of tanking the pairing and/or story.

by Anonymousreply 146December 27, 2022 12:12 PM

R143 Yes especially back in the day. And if the fans are vocal enough it could result in an actor being let go or a storyline dropped. Sometimes it's done on purpose; when Jennifer Bransford was hired as Carly in 2005, it came down to her, Sarah Buxton (Annie, Sunset Beach) and Jamie Luner (Peyton, Savannah). Jill and Brian Frons intentionally chose "the worst" out of the bunch, for Jill had planned to bring Laura on as Carly, however Laura's contract with Guiding Light wasn't up until Fall. To Jill's credit, she did ask Tamara to stay for at least six more months (which was how long it would take for LW to leave GL) however Tamara (who engaged in a screaming match with Jill on set, prior to leaving) refused. Jill then asked Sarah Brown to return for six months, and she refused as well. Jill knew Jennifer wouldn't take off with fans (which she didn't) so by the time it came down to bringing Laura on, fans were practically begging for Jennifer to be out (she did do a good job in Carly's breakdown story, however to some fans, that still wasn't good enough, and they wanted her terminated). Another example is when Guza tried to paint Nikolas and Liz in a bad light with their affair; if you can make a character unlikable enough, it can work to the show's favor in contract negotiations by highlighting how unfavorable they're faring with the public and/or focus groups. It backfired on Guza because Becky & Tyler both had strong fanbases, which really became evident when Becky was fired.

by Anonymousreply 147December 27, 2022 12:27 PM

R144 Brian Frons was probably the biggest Rebecca Budig fan 😆 he tried to place her on GH twice- in 05/06 as a Brenda recast, then in 2011 as an Elizabeth recast (the plan was for Liz to have a breakdown, fire Becky Herbst, send Liz off to a sanitarium, then return that Fall as Rebecca Budig, since AMC was being cancelled).

by Anonymousreply 148December 27, 2022 12:30 PM

R144 Frank almost cast Rebecca as a recast Robin when KMc didn't want to stay on a full-time basis; Ron had to talk him out of it, convincing him that he couldn't recast Robin, especially since she's been there as a child and practically grew up onscreen with only KMc playing the role. Robin has a huge fan base that would've voiced their opinions about the recast, however when it comes to Frank, he's one of those that doesn't necessarily listen to fans and does what he wants.

by Anonymousreply 149December 27, 2022 12:35 PM

Cam is starting to look cuter lol he always had like a boyish look to me now it's starting to be more mature like college boy. They should bring someone else on for him instead of this Joss/Dex situation that seems to be written more in favor of Dex than Cam.

by Anonymousreply 150December 27, 2022 2:00 PM

The Niz affair was meant to ruin Liz, R147. Nikolas didn’t get half the shit Liz got from that. From teary-eyed Lucky calling her every name in the book to Lulu publicly slut shaming her at GH. They wanted the viewers to turn on Liz so it would be easier to fire Becky. They had no idea how vocal her fanbase was. The most Rebecca Herbst has talked about this was on SOD’s podcast a few months back during her 25th anniversary. She didn’t name them by name but said Jill, Guza and Frons were “close minded”. She accepted her job back after Jill came to her and said a mistake was mad but made it known she wasn’t happy with how it was all handled. She was also asked to tell her fans to stop writing in/calling and she refused. Frons hated the character of Liz, didn’t understand her popularity. Before he became obsessed with Kelly Monaco, he was a huge Alicia Leigh Willis supporter which caused them to axe Jason/Liz for Jason/Courtney. Jason/Sam reunion in 2009 was also network mandated.

by Anonymousreply 151December 27, 2022 2:41 PM

It seems like every writing/producing regime at GH has tried to get rid of Herbst at one time or another. The fact that she's still there is amazing. I'm surprised that she didn't jump ship when it was rumored that Days wanted her to play Abigail Devereaux.

At least with 25 years under her belt, she will have a decent SAG pension.

by Anonymousreply 152December 27, 2022 3:59 PM

R151 That's all true except there was a bonus/incentive to use that affair in contract negotiations bts when it came to Tyler, which was referenced back then by insiders. His job wasn't on the line like Becky's, it's just a negotiation tactic that's used. It's happened to actors before him as well as after him, though firing Becky was the main goal with Brian Frons intending to place Rebecca Budig as Liz upon AMC cancellation

by Anonymousreply 153December 27, 2022 5:05 PM

R151 Then there was also Gia being swapped for Courtney as Sonny's sister, which was the original intention. Courtney was created by McTavish for Phelps and even named after Phelps real life daughter in 2001, then became a favorite of Frons when he became head in 2002. The running joke was how Frons had a favorite blonde on every ABC soap- Alison on Port Charles, Babe on AMC, Jennifer on OLTL, and Courtney on GH. So Courtney ended up with Elizabeth's love interest and the planned brother for Gia.

by Anonymousreply 154December 27, 2022 5:11 PM

R152 Imo, I really believe that she didn't take Days upon their offer as Abigail because she probably thought Days didn't have too much time left, seeing how they were at the bottom of the ratings. They were subject to a few cancellation rumors that she might have felt wouldn't have been in her best interest long-term, knowing she wouldn't have been able to return to GH had Days received a cancellation notice. Then there's also that old saying, the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know lol

by Anonymousreply 155December 27, 2022 5:15 PM

r154

Had they set up Gia to be Sonny's sister before Courtney cam along? Also who was Gia's brother that ended up with Courtney and I'm assuming Elizabeth's love interest was Jason?

by Anonymousreply 156December 27, 2022 5:20 PM

Another thing too is that Maurice actually saved Tamara's job lol Megan McTavish and Phelps were planning to kill Carly off in 2001/2002 for McTavish couldn't stand the character, while Phelps was upset that the network, particularly Felicia Minei-Behr, refused to let her bring over either Gina Tognoni or Robin Christopher from OLTL as Carly after Sarah Brown quit, leading to a casting call which resulted in Phelps hiring Tamara, saying simply how the show must go on. Phelps was ok with McTavish killing Carly off however Maurice wasn't, so he went over their heads to the network and convinced them to keep Tamara/Carly.

by Anonymousreply 157December 27, 2022 5:23 PM

The previous head writers, Elizabeth Korte and Michele val Jean, before they were fired in favor of Megan McTavish, wanted Gia to be revealed as Sonny's sister, with Gia being the product of a relationship between Mike and the mother of Gia. I think I may have typed too fast lol I was saying how Jason ended up with Courtney instead of Liz, while Sonny ended up with Courtney as his sister instead of Gia, so Courtney took both Liz and Gia's place in two different storylines

by Anonymousreply 158December 27, 2022 5:30 PM

Becky would’ve been better off at Days. I’m thinking she got pretty close to signing in 2016 as a few cast members started following her on social media including Billy Flynn. GH has underutilized her for years.

by Anonymousreply 159December 27, 2022 8:24 PM

R159 She was extremely close, even her husband Michael was excited about it, for he felt the same way, that she was being underutilized at GH. Frank was trying to low-ball her with contract negotiations so that's when Days took notice. Frank even had a few in mind as a recast Elizabeth, particularly Melissa Archer (Natalie, OLTL). Becky wasn't one of those that were close to Frank, for they barely spoke the whole four years he was there prior to those negotiations. Becky has always been known to be somewhat shy and quiet, so she wasn't always up under him like his "niece" Kirsten or besties Kelly Monaco (and former bestie Michelle). If Becky had went over to Days, that would've saved years of the Kate Mansi/Marci Miller back and forth along with Abigail's demise, for I think Becky would've stayed there (not always with Chad, however I think she'd still be there now).

by Anonymousreply 160December 27, 2022 9:10 PM

the PR machine at work

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by Anonymousreply 161December 28, 2022 1:47 PM

Sprina sex scene incoming

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by Anonymousreply 162December 28, 2022 2:30 PM

Someone is not advising him well. Sprina is expired, and I can see them getting rid of the girl this year.

Teenagers don't watch GH. The fans paying $20 for the fan club must be scary fraus or sketchy gays.

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by Anonymousreply 163December 28, 2022 5:53 PM

R161 Lol using that old "fulfilled their contract" excuse. Frank is notorious for not renewing certain actors contracts, leaving them blindsided (Billy Miller, Tamara Braun, William de Vry- although there were rumors his wasn't being renewed, among others) or forcing them out by either lowballing or not giving them what they want anymore (Michelle Stafford, etc.)

by Anonymousreply 164December 28, 2022 6:24 PM

MS was never going to stay at GH. The Dawn of Day story just made her leave sooner than planned. They screwed Gina Tognoni over big time.

by Anonymousreply 165December 28, 2022 10:24 PM

LINK------>>Coloma is making excuses for NOT filming final GH scenes. Of course he claims he was "exposed" to covid. What a coincidence. On the same day you got your walking papers?

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by Anonymousreply 166December 29, 2022 3:10 AM

I cannot believe Nick C has a patreon. Low Rent. Having said that, I WOULD subscribe to his OF.

by Anonymousreply 167December 29, 2022 3:17 AM

R165 Dawn of Day is what started the process to drive her out lol however when it came down to negotiations, she went to Frank asking for a pay raise, while Frank asked her to take a paycut, and wanted to slash her wardrobe budget (which was the highest). Frank wanted her gone by the time came for her to renegotiate her contract, or at least have her stay at a reduced rate, for he had grown tired of Michelle (allegedly) and was aware the backlash Nina had continuously received. Michelle was so livid with Frank that she called her good buddy Josh Griffith at Y&R after a "rumored" argument with Frank (which was probably built up from Dawn of Day lol along with the negotiations).

Gina T. definitely got screwed; her Phyllis had caught on with fans (more than Nina had caught on with GH fans) and some were not happy about Michelle returning to Y&R (including some of her co-workers; one being Sharon Case) though Josh gave her everything she wanted and wasn't going to get from Frank.

by Anonymousreply 168December 29, 2022 8:56 AM

However, it should be noted that Sharon seems fine with her now since Michelle's return, similarly to how Maura West is good with her now, even though Michelle couldn't stand Maura most of the time when they were on Y&R together, and when Maura first came to GH. Michelle has a pattern of falling out/making up with co-stars, particularly females that are around her age ( she usually gets along fine with the younger ones, who ppl have accused her of trying to groom towards Scientology)

by Anonymousreply 169December 29, 2022 9:03 AM

Btw lol when Michelle left Y&R for GH, it was because she didn't like Jill Farren Phelps and wanted to escape from her lol so that's when Frank (and Ron) got her on GH in a "surprise" industry move. Although there were familiar faces who auditioned for Phyllis (Laura Leighton, Sydney from Melrose Place and Jamie Luner, Peyton from Savannah/Liza AMC) Jill chose her friend Gina, who was actually flying in from the East Coast during her run. Gina was still there under Mal Young and would still most likely be there now if not for Michelle/Josh Griffith. When Michelle left GH, Frank was considering casting either Eden Riegel (Bianca, AMC) or Alicia Minshew (Kendall, AMC) as Nina, with insiders laughing at both presumed decisions, saying how they were both too young to be Nina. That's when Cynthia entered however she wasn't first choice.

by Anonymousreply 170December 29, 2022 9:15 AM

Nina would've been a perfect two-year character. Awakes from coma, discovers misdeeds done by her lover and mother, fakes paralysis, exacts revenge, and is murdered in a whodunit, with a long list of suspects. After eight years, she's exhausting.

KT is getting a bigger, longer, more dramatic sendoff than Tony Geary. I like her as much as the next guy, but it's a bit excessive.

by Anonymousreply 171December 29, 2022 9:27 AM

R166 😆 yeah especially since he just had it. Not to say he couldn't have contracted it agan however the spin isn't working because A) if someone quit on their own, why unfollow everyone, B) why dissociate yourself from your former job, and C) make a video where you seemed sad and in shock about leaving.

by Anonymousreply 172December 29, 2022 9:28 AM

R167 😆 not low rent. I think he'd have to be off GH to do an OF though lol that's probably where you'll find former soap stars. You might find someone like Bryan Craig over there lol I remember he used to charge fans just to talk to him/ask him anything.

by Anonymousreply 173December 29, 2022 9:31 AM

R171 Good point, except they were going off of Michelle then Cynthia portraying her; Frank is more about actor over character, so this is a prime example. Nina would only be insignificant to him if Cynthia were to leave without a "soap name" as a recast, or if he were to somehow get tired of Cynthia (like he did with Billy Miller & Tamara Braun) though Cynthia seems unproblematic.

by Anonymousreply 174December 29, 2022 9:37 AM

R171 To your other point, one main difference is that Ron was still the headwriter when Tony quit, and Tony couldn't stand Ron, which Ron was aware of lol so the Fluke story/Luke's background story could've been more than enough of a sendoff for Ron towards someone who didn't like him. Tony, however, did like Frank so I suppose Frank could've pushed for more of a sendoff, though he was more concerned with replacing Ron and saving his own ass since ABC wasn't too happy with the ratings dropping/negative feedback they were receiving (this was in 2015, when GH took a dive, with Maurice leading the mutiny to get Ron fired).

by Anonymousreply 175December 29, 2022 9:53 AM

Cynthia was always amazing as Annie on Guiding Light. Glad she found her way back to daytime. Nina was a dead end character until CW took the reins. FYI - She beat Lucci, Zimmer, Davidson, and Jackie Zeman (who had an amazing year)---for the Best Actress Emmy.

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by Anonymousreply 176December 29, 2022 11:04 AM

I don't disparage Watros or her Emmy win as Annie. But she's still playing Annie on GH.

by Anonymousreply 177December 29, 2022 11:53 AM

I cannot see Michelle Stafford playing any of the scenes Nina has had in the past two years. Cynthia has made Nina her own.

Cynthia may still be playing a version of Annie Dutton, but her Nina is a more fully formed character than she ever was while played by Stafford.

Cynthia has taken Nina places Stafford never could. I honestly can't see Stafford able to play any of the Nixon Falls storyline, much less being in love with Sonny.

Nina is actually a flawed but sympathetic heroine. under Cynthia rather than a scheming bitch that she was under Stafford.

by Anonymousreply 178December 29, 2022 10:54 PM

We get it, R178 . You like Watros' Nina. Take it over to daytime confidential with the rest of the GH fraustans.

by Anonymousreply 179December 29, 2022 11:19 PM

I wish they’d hired a few more extras for Britt’s party but at least they sprang for a real song for karaoke.

by Anonymousreply 180December 30, 2022 3:53 AM

Nik: "Mother, you are no match for Victor. Leave it alone."

Laura will kill a bitch, as she's done before. Shaughnessy plays Victor like some theater troupe dandy. That's like Andre reminding the audience the other day that Helena thought Aunt Val was the most lethal of the Cassadines.

by Anonymousreply 181December 30, 2022 10:09 AM

Did Tony G ever say why he disliked Ron's writing? It won him an Emmy

by Anonymousreply 182December 30, 2022 6:16 PM

I read on a gossip site today that John Stamos got his job at GH back in the day by....wait for it....fucking Gloria Monty.

Has ANYONE ever heard this before?

by Anonymousreply 183December 31, 2022 5:14 AM

[quote] Cynthia may still be playing a version of Annie Dutton, but her Nina is a more fully formed character than she ever was while played by Stafford.

She's an improvement over The Staff but we're all waiting for her to have that Annie Dutton Snaps moment. THEN shit will get real and it will be fun.

by Anonymousreply 184December 31, 2022 5:16 AM

I’m just gonna say it: I thought Maxie looked cute yesterday and today.

by Anonymousreply 185December 31, 2022 5:33 AM

This had to be the episode that finally got Coloma fired He was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 186December 31, 2022 9:40 AM

R182 This is from Tony, in his own words, in an exit interview he did with Michael Logan, in 2015, for TV Guide:

ML: In sending you off, GH head writer Ron Carlivati undid two epic events. Mob Don Frank Smith, who was killed by Like, came back from the dead and so did Luke's grandson Jake, whom Like accidentally slaughtered in a car accident. How'd you feel about the revisionist history?

TG: I loved that they brought back Emma Samms [Holly], Genie Francis [Laura], Jonathan Jackson [Lucky] and Nathan Parsons [Ethan] so I could work with them one last time, but I did not like the conceit that brought us all together. It was ill-conceived, cheesy and showed a lack of imagination. We saw Luke shoot Frank in the back over twenty years ago. And by the way, that character was old then. He would have been in his hundreds by now.

ML: And Jake?

TG: The audience saw that little boy dead on the operating table, and his organs were harvested. I do not understand the value of disassembling two of the best stories we've told. I guess the point of bringing the child back from the dead was so Luke could be redeemed, but I never felt he needed that. I hate redemption. I'm sure there are audience members who didn't want him to be a child killer and so they're pleased, which is fine. But I was not thrilled.

by Anonymousreply 187December 31, 2022 12:31 PM

R182 To give you an even better idea, when Ron decided to change Ethan's paternity from Luke to Robert, Tony was so upset that he went to over Ron's head and demanded that Ethan stay Luke's. Tony, similar to Maurice, weren't fans of Ron's writing, needless to say. Tony's main issue was Ron's rewriting certain stories, while Maurice's was Ron's supposed unfavorable writing of Sonny.

by Anonymousreply 188December 31, 2022 12:35 PM

Here's Maurice's (with Bryan Craig, who was described as his "hype man" lol) comments a couple of weeks after Ron's firing, with Chad Duell there also, at a GH fan club event:

Mo: As you guys know, just to get some deep part then we'll get to some other part....We got rid of the writer. I'm not one to bash but the thing with him was, obviously, he wasn't a fan of mine....and that's a stupid thing.

(With the crowd cheering in the background)

Bryan: You don't cross Sonny. Not Sonny.

Mo: The good news is, moving forward, I gotta tell you there's been some great stuff. So if you guys had any doubt about what's going to happen, I can tell you right now that the future looks so promising. This is the first time in I can't tell you how long that I can't wait to go to work, and work.

by Anonymousreply 189December 31, 2022 12:47 PM

The head writer is not the Executive Producer. You know, the captain of the ship, the visionary. If Ron was running wild with story, it was because Frank wasn't paying attention, or didn't care. Tony had nothing but contempt for the audience (and Genie, and likely himself). Fuck him.

And just like ABC mandated that GH do a live show with a wedding and a killing, they probably mandated that Luke be redeemed for Jake's killing. Much as they mandated dialing back the mob elements when they fired JFP. Tony isn't missed, nor would Maurice be if he was gone.

by Anonymousreply 190December 31, 2022 12:55 PM

IA the Frank Smith story was stupid. Ethan as Luke’s son never made any sense. And killing Jake was only to go along with firing Herbst.

by Anonymousreply 191December 31, 2022 2:11 PM

Geary's entire thing is him being sour and bitter that he wasn't spoken of in the same sentence as Olivier.

He and Kim Zimmer were the two daytime performers who would complain about anything and everything. But Tony was way worse. He didn't like much of anything that wasn't his original story written by Doug Marland and produced by Gloria Monty.

by Anonymousreply 192December 31, 2022 2:39 PM

Don't know how I said "Like" twice instead of Luke at R187 😆 and that's true R190 about Ron's storytelling; Frank had to rein him in certain times at OLTL and at GH, sometimes because of Frank not agreeing with certain ideas, network mandates, or even actors complaining. On the other hand, there were times where Ron had to actually rein Frank in at both OLTL and GH as well, with Ron making suggestions to Frank that he felt were necessary, for Frank had out there ideas as well.

It's funny you mentioned Luke & Laura, because he had this to say about that in the same interview:

ML: So we know your high points. What was the low points of your run at GH?

TG: I just get really tired of the whole Luke-and-Laura thing. I think Genie would tell you the same. We've both been dragging the corpse of that relationship around for 30 years. I was able to insist on moving away from it, but being hyphenated as Luke-and-Laura has been a real pain in my ass. It irritates me that, no matter what I did on the show, no matter how many Emmys I won, I could never unhitch from that. Every time I was introduced anywhere in the last 33 years, they'd run the clip of that fucking wedding. It's like having your high school graduation picture dragged out. [Laughs] Nobody wants that! And yes, this is a guy who is biting the hand that has fed him. I fully understand that. I think at age 68 I'm allowed to say these things, and certainly now that I am no longer under contract.

by Anonymousreply 193December 31, 2022 2:55 PM

Yeah, well the plumber who retires after 30 years probably doesn't want to relive crawling under people's houses in the dead of winter to unclog shit from frozen pipes, but it paid the mortgage and put food on the table. No sympathy from me.

by Anonymousreply 194December 31, 2022 4:49 PM

GH basically gave Britt a tribute since KT leaving but couldn’t put anything together for Stuart Damon or even Rebecca Herbst for 25 years at the show??

by Anonymousreply 195December 31, 2022 11:19 PM

I literally said the same thing at the same time as Britt. "Shoot her again." This show fuking sucks.

by Anonymousreply 196January 3, 2023 7:21 PM

[quote]GH basically gave Britt a tribute since KT leaving but couldn’t put anything together for Stuart Damon or even Rebecca Herbst for 25 years at the show??

A Stuart Damon tribute is much needed. I agree.

But it would largely depend on the availability of Leslie Charlson. It would be difficult to pull off without her.

Perhaps they are waiting to see how LC's health is.

by Anonymousreply 197January 3, 2023 7:29 PM

I’m assuming Tyler Christopher won’t be back but I’d like to see Colin egglesfield as Nik.

by Anonymousreply 198January 4, 2023 2:22 AM

I don’t see why wouldn’t have Nik leave town. He’s irredeemable.

by Anonymousreply 199January 4, 2023 2:51 AM

I guess I’d rather keep Nik than another Cody or Austin.

by Anonymousreply 200January 4, 2023 3:24 AM

Perhaps the show can write off Austin and then bring Roger Howarth back as Nikolas.

by Anonymousreply 201January 4, 2023 6:02 AM

Heather being the hook killer might've had more of an impact if she was revealed to be Esme's mother after the audience learned she was the murderer. They pretty much gave it away once she was confirmed as her mother since it gave her motive. Only other option on there was the lawyer who tried to prosecute Trina lol so at least this makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 202January 4, 2023 6:26 AM

Heather was pretty inept at hooking, so I hope she's a red herring. Making her the hook seems like a copout.

by Anonymousreply 203January 4, 2023 10:06 AM

I mean...was Britt SO impactful that she needed a tribute? That seems overzealous.

by Anonymousreply 204January 4, 2023 12:33 PM

R187 You are BRINGING it.

by Anonymousreply 205January 4, 2023 12:37 PM

R203 😆 along with how easily she seems to always keep escaping from maximum security, however I think she's now in a minimal security facility. It is a cop out although it makes more sense than the lawyer lol imo it shouldn't be either of them though. Imo, Felicia should've been Esme's mother like they were originally "rumored" to be headed towards, for her being Heather's daughter is also somewhat of a cop out.

by Anonymousreply 206January 4, 2023 1:22 PM

R205 Thank you so much sometimes what goes on bts is more interesting than what happens on-screen 😆

by Anonymousreply 207January 4, 2023 1:25 PM

R206, this stinks of rewrites. There are several "tells" when a soap story has been changed and this one has all the signs. Someone got cold feet, probably the network.

by Anonymousreply 208January 4, 2023 1:43 PM

R208 Which storyline do you think was changed, the hook killer or Esme's maternity? I'm in agreement 100% you can tell when stories are switched midway through the story lol I suppose they think we can't tell or that we will.just get over it since it's fiction. Sometimes it's by Frank other times its mandated by the network, which hinders story and can actually ruin it. I still think ABC made a mistake by not letting Todd Manning return in one of their mandated moves lol

by Anonymousreply 209January 4, 2023 2:15 PM

[quote]Which storyline do you think was changed, the hook killer or Esme's maternity?

Both.

I think Heather was brought in as a quick, easy cleanup.

I believe Felicia was going to be Esme's mother, but then they brought Cody on and didn't want Mac and Felicia to both be dealing with an unknown kid storyline. Remember, the show put her back on contract - the was a reason for that. And that reason was Esme, I'd bet anything.

It's also clear they had other plans for the Hook Killer. I'm not sure who the original killer was supposed to be, but this ain't it.

by Anonymousreply 210January 4, 2023 2:24 PM

R210 So Heather killed two birds with one stone, or one hook by absolving Felicia and a mystery woman going on a killing spree. I did see them making Esme Felicia's; besides her and Mac both having similar storylines with long lost kids, I think another reason is they possibly didn't want to deal with the ramifications of tying a kid with Ryan to Felicia, which actually seems like a network mandated decision, seeing how Ryan tortured Felicia for years, it sort of fits their non-rapist/victim policy to not tie them to each other. Even though Ryan never raped Felicia, he victimized her, so that most likely didn't sit well with Disney. I also think at one point Trina having an alter through schizophrenia was considered, aiming to kill anyone close to Trina, though that really doesn't seem like something Disney would approve either. Brian Frons was able to approve more of those type of storylines when he was in charge however once he stepped down, there did seem to be more of a change towards less dark stories, which is sad because soaps are known for telling a combination of light & dark (as well as in between) stories. Not saying Frons was the best, however certain stories like Kristina's abusive boyfriend Kiefer or Michael's prison rape wouldn't able to make the airwaves today, which means we're actually moving backwards instead of forward.

by Anonymousreply 211January 4, 2023 3:12 PM

I was wondering if they nixed Felicia as Esme’s mom because Kristina Wagner needed time off to grieve the loss of her IRL son.

by Anonymousreply 212January 4, 2023 4:23 PM

Didn't he die like a year ago?

by Anonymousreply 213January 4, 2023 4:24 PM

He died last June—but considering we learned that Ryan is her dad way back in March, there would have been time to work that in.

by Anonymousreply 214January 4, 2023 4:37 PM

Another shitty side bar to bringing on Heather is what about Jeff? They went to the trouble of having Liz kill Finn's wife who Jeff was fucking behind his wife's back 25 years ago, introduce a mother we had never seen, then had Jeff come to PC to make amends or whatever. I think he was there for 2 days? Meanwhile, Heather was reintroduced and brought to the hospital at the same time. Heather was obsessed with Jeff, and even more so with their son, Stephen Lars, 40 years ago. Were there no beats they could play regarding actual history? Sorry, but I still think Alley Mills and the writing are terrible.

by Anonymousreply 215January 4, 2023 5:32 PM

I too would like to be cuddled by a tall rich guy in a peacoat.

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by Anonymousreply 216January 4, 2023 5:42 PM

Looks like a vampire cuddling a troll doll.

by Anonymousreply 217January 4, 2023 6:02 PM

Jeff's return might have been better if they'd had him interact with longterm legacy characters who interacted with him when Jeff was a regular on the show in the late 70s, early 80s.

Ideally, he should have had scenes with his ex-wife Monica. But since Leslie Charlson seems to be unavaialble for health reasons, I suppose such scenes would not be possible. But Jeff could have had scenes with Laura and or Scotty.

Also could have made reference to visiting Audrey.

Jeff did have scenes with Heather but those sort of range flat since it wasn't the "real" Heather aka Robin Mattson.

by Anonymousreply 218January 4, 2023 6:29 PM

Thanks R218 . I missed his scenes with Heather.

by Anonymousreply 219January 4, 2023 6:32 PM

R215 IA and I still think they should've had Cameron Mathison as Steven Lars instead of casting him as Drew. Apparently they feel that Steven Lars isn't necessary enough to be on canvas however he had a close relationship with Liz, a brief dating history with Carly, an even more serious one with Olivia, GH could use another doctor, etc. Even though that would've made him and Rebecca Budig onscreen siblings lol in sort of a reverse situation of Melissa Claire Egan and Billy Miller portraying siblings on AMC then lovers on Y&R, I think some would've looked beyond the whole Ryan/Greenlee angle, especially since Rebecca B. is no longer on GH. This isn't a Liz story, nor a Heather, Jeff or Carolyn story, it's all about Finn, his frustration with Liz, his anger with Jeff. Did he even seem to be upset with his wife for cheating on him lol because she should be at fault too.

by Anonymousreply 220January 4, 2023 8:49 PM

R218 Right except this story was meant for Finn. Originally I think it was designated for Liz, especially when they were hinting at her possibly being molested by Jeff, though I feel that Finn had to be integrated more heavily into the story eventually. Imo it's a good thing they had to change it from Jeff being a molester, although their alternative is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 221January 4, 2023 8:53 PM

So Joss inherited Carly's promiscuous gene apparently lol if Dex turns out to be Brenda's son, I'm wondering if they'll retcon the racecar driver Alexander as his father and somehow make Sonny his dad, although Jax not Sonny was the one who would take trips to visit Brenda before she returned in 2010 iirc. Another angle they could go is when Brenda left Sonny in 2011, she wrote him a letter which I'm not sure if he read, so that could have been an admission of a pregnancy. A Sonny/Brenda offspring involved with one of Jax/Carly would have interesting potential if written right. Dex doesn't physically look the part of a Brenda/Sonny child however the story practically writes itself. Brenda's son was originally supposed to be Dante's and then Ron was considering having her possibly have one with Michael after they had presumably slept together, only for both stories to be nixed, with Maurice "allegedly" vetoing them.

by Anonymousreply 222January 4, 2023 10:18 PM

[quote] Perhaps the show can write off Austin and then bring Roger Howarth back as Nikolas.

The essence of that idea makes sense, but Roger and Genie are only 6 years apart......

Certainly Austin ain't working.

by Anonymousreply 223January 4, 2023 10:27 PM

Correcting myself at R222 Guza was the one who wanted Brenda's son to be Dante's while Ron wanted Brenda/Michael to have relations with a possible pregnancy.

by Anonymousreply 224January 4, 2023 10:34 PM

Lol if Roger Howarth has to start from scratch and come back as another character then he'll be neck and neck with Michael Easton:

ME- John McBain, Stephen Clay, Silas Clay, Hamilton Finn

RH- Todd Manning, Robert "Franco", Austin Gatlin-Holt

by Anonymousreply 225January 4, 2023 11:22 PM

[quote]I also think at one point Trina having an alter through schizophrenia was considered, aiming to kill anyone close to Trina, though that really doesn't seem like something Disney would approve either.

That sounds like a great story, but there was no way in hell the Network would have allowed that story.

And for the record, I still think that Brenda slept with Michael the last time she was in town and has a Michael kid waiting in the wings.

by Anonymousreply 226January 4, 2023 11:57 PM

Wow, hell of an episode today. Great performances by Gati, Lipton, and West, especially.

by Anonymousreply 227January 5, 2023 2:03 AM

Esme went off the parapet AGAIN, survived AGAIN and just so happened to swim in freezing cold water to The Haunted Star? Come on, GH. lol. Not to mention, Heather coming and going as she pleases in a so-called maximum security unisex prison. I hate blatant rewrites and plot point bullshit.

Also, please get rid of the Josslyn actress.

by Anonymousreply 228January 5, 2023 2:40 AM

It was a good episode today, and I'm probably in the minority, but can you really blame Joss? I mean just look at Dex. How could you not fuck that?

by Anonymousreply 229January 5, 2023 2:42 AM

I hate to admit that I’ve come to actually like Eden McCoy.

by Anonymousreply 230January 5, 2023 2:42 AM

R226 Brenda sleeping with Michael and having a baby by him would be interesting lol except Maurice would have to come around since he didn't want them to tell that story the first time, then there's also the fact that LW might have an issue with Carly being a grandmother to one of Brenda's kids, given VM and LW's history of not getting along with each other lol however Maurice was rumored to be the main one who didn't like that story, or the one with Brenda having a son by Dante. It was something about him worrying that it would tarnish the Sonny & Brenda legacy, which he still seems to be holding on to, even though Vanessa hasn't been back in almost ten years. Since it was around the 50th anniversary when that incident with Michael occured, it would be funny if they had her come back with his baby around the 60th 😆

by Anonymousreply 231January 5, 2023 3:40 AM

I never thought I'd say this lol Eden McCoy was actually pretty good today. I think if she tried to act less like Laura Wright and more like herself she'd be better lol

by Anonymousreply 232January 5, 2023 3:44 AM

This is so stupid - I think that Esme did not swim to the Lucky Star. That guy that was her "guard" , the one that she had the candlelight steak dinner with, was waiting down below and took her to the Lucky Star. She happens to walk through the door that Spencer and Trina are closest too. Now she has lost her memory? Come on this is too stupid to stop watching LOL!

by Anonymousreply 233January 5, 2023 4:08 AM

R228 R233 Well the writing is pretty bad lol it's been off the rails since around October/November 2021 and hasn't really been back on track or anything close to it since then. Some of the acting is what's saving these otherwise shitty stories

by Anonymousreply 234January 5, 2023 4:27 AM

[234] Yes the acting is really incredible on today's episode from all, well maybe except MC but even he tried to keep up. I can't believe they killed off Britt, but they didn't show her being pronounced dead. They skipped the whole transfer from the Lucky Star to GH. Unless I missed it.

by Anonymousreply 235January 5, 2023 5:00 AM

R235 I didn't see her being transported from the boat to the hospital either, iirc it went to commercial with her lying on Liesl then when they were back, Liesl was alone when Scott approached her, unless I missed something as well. I'm wondering if Britt is faking her death however it looked believable lol and we all know no one really stays dead on soaps

by Anonymousreply 236January 5, 2023 6:15 AM

You must be in my head R234 , because I've also clocked Fall of 2021 when GH went off the rails. I stopped commenting on some forums because the fans are so rabid they will forgive all transgressions and have emotional meltdowns if you say anything negative.

McCoy is good actress, but the character is repugnant. Joss crying to Cam about staying friends after already having sex with Dex twice was so Carly.

by Anonymousreply 237January 5, 2023 10:35 AM

R237 I must be 😆 it's so weird how quickly it changed course back then, idk if it was Frank, or the network mandating even further, but something shifted in a negative way. I know that having to let Jason go altered the outcome of his stories with Carly/Sonny & Britt, however I don't think that's enough to impact an entire show. It's almost like they just stopped trying and just started throwing everything against the wall just to see what would stick. You should just stay posting here lol because those other boards (especially Soap Central) are notorious for reporting ppl or having them blocked if your views don't align with their majority. I had to stop years ago (I was even blocked from Soap Central) from leaving comments anywhere else except for here. IA Joss was definitely in mini-Carly mode with that move she made lol Carly almost always compromised herself and her relationships for another man lol

by Anonymousreply 238January 5, 2023 12:47 PM

it's a matter of time before this show ends. I bet they announce it this spring.

Either that or they try to squeeze another year out and end it on the 60th

by Anonymousreply 239January 5, 2023 3:03 PM

Isn't its 60th this coming April 1st?

If it moves to Hulu I'll never see it again.

by Anonymousreply 240January 5, 2023 3:12 PM

R240 Oops you're right. I had 1964 in my head but it was 1963.

by Anonymousreply 241January 5, 2023 3:18 PM

I think they'll move it to Hulu or Disney+ before they actually cancel it, seeing how Days is on Peacock, they'll try their own relocation to streaming format, then it'll be easier to cancel it from there if it doesn't perform well. Just like it'll be easier to get rid of Days from Peacock then it would've been to just flat out cancel it from NBC. GH is like a million viewers behind Y&R, B&B so there's pretty much no way for them to catch up with them unless they moved GH to CBS 😆 so yeah they're probably not going to be on ABC as long as they're going to be on CBS.

by Anonymousreply 242January 5, 2023 4:43 PM

*GH is probably not going to be on ABC years from now as long as Y&R/B&B will continue to be on CBS.

by Anonymousreply 243January 5, 2023 4:45 PM

I took a long break from watching: I was driven off by the repetitive sonny storylines with the Balkan and Karpov.

I came back when they resumed production in 2020 since I was home and wanted to support the genre overall.

I’m enjoying the show much more than I did during those awful Balkan years although I don’t know everything I missed in between.

by Anonymousreply 244January 6, 2023 1:22 AM

Similar to R244, I came back to the show during the pandemic after not really watching since the late ‘90s. It’s amazing how many of the same cast members are still on.

by Anonymousreply 245January 6, 2023 8:25 AM

Yesterday’s scene in which Sonny breaks the Britt news to Spencer is an example of why Chavez is so good. He could’ve gone full soap histrionic, but instead you see an already sad young man just quietly collapse inside. Beautiful stuff.

by Anonymousreply 246January 7, 2023 5:35 PM

Is Jeff’s stint over?

by Anonymousreply 247January 7, 2023 6:07 PM

Coloma was worse than ever last week.

As much as I like the snide, flippant Liz, wasn't she just dealing with delayed emotional trauma and memory lapses? Did I miss the episode where all of that was resolved?

by Anonymousreply 248January 7, 2023 6:27 PM

I think figuring out what happened with Reiko resolved Liz’s blackouts and memory issues. I am enjoying her pivot to Shifty-Eyed Liz.

by Anonymousreply 249January 7, 2023 6:35 PM

Nancy Lee Grahn has COVID:

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by Anonymousreply 250January 7, 2023 11:38 PM

Coloma was looking HOT tho at the hospital with Liz. He just needs a new haircut.

by Anonymousreply 251January 8, 2023 11:52 AM

Coloma isn’t the best actor - not even the worst on the show - but I do think he would’ve fared better if he’d been originally paired with Becky Herbst. They have a good dynamic and actual chemistry. Their hospital scenes after Esme was brought in last week were entertaining. It’s mainly Becky though, who really thrives when Liz is being dry and snarky.

by Anonymousreply 252January 10, 2023 8:26 PM

He’d make a great orderly number three.

by Anonymousreply 253January 10, 2023 10:49 PM

Willow’s storyline is by far my least favorite current one, so today’s episode was a chore. To take my mind off it, can we discuss the big bowl of moss in Carly’s kitchen? When did this happen and why?

by Anonymousreply 254January 11, 2023 8:58 PM

5ish years ago R254 ? Whenever they gave the Corinthi that kitchen set. It has its own (pretty funny) twitter.

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by Anonymousreply 255January 11, 2023 9:37 PM

If Cam is still so bothered by the sex tape, he should recognize that the problem was trying to live a heterosexual life when he would be so much happier as an enthusiastic gay bottom. I could see him as the next Justin Owen with that glorious hair.

by Anonymousreply 256January 12, 2023 8:11 PM

I so loved the Carly/Nina scene. That’s what soap operas are all about!

by Anonymousreply 257January 13, 2023 8:43 PM

Shaved head, whiny Cam proved to the world that acting is not his strong suit. And clearly if his puffy body hasn't been to the gym by now, it never will be.

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by Anonymousreply 258January 14, 2023 10:25 AM

Queen Watros putting the *whole* jar of mustard on it when she finally called Carly a bitch. Glorious.

by Anonymousreply 259January 14, 2023 11:35 AM

Oh, please. Poor psychotic baby-snatching, husband stealing Nina was lied to.

by Anonymousreply 260January 17, 2023 1:53 PM

GH stans love Ava's friendship with Nina, and have chosen to think that Stafford's character, and her myriad of transgressions, is not the same character as Watros'. (For years now) I'd hoped that Ava was using Nina to convince Sonny to give her full custody of Avery, and that the friendship was all a ruse. But these writers have been on the job long enough for me to know that nothing that interesting will happen.

by Anonymousreply 261January 17, 2023 2:34 PM

You've guys must've given up on the show or just don't care enough about it anymore lol because there are barely any mentions of the Nina/Willow reveal

by Anonymousreply 262January 17, 2023 11:47 PM

From what's being referenced in regards to the 60th, they're suddenly wrapping up stories now so that way they can focus on the Nurses Ball, Tracy's visit, etc. I read that Epiphany's death will happen in March presumably leading up to their ball with a tribute.

by Anonymousreply 263January 17, 2023 11:52 PM

I know Laura Wright is generally despised on these threads, but I through she gave an amazing performance last week.

by Anonymousreply 264January 18, 2023 1:38 AM

My favorite actor on the show is Dominic Zamprogna. I’d love to see him have a big storyline.

by Anonymousreply 265January 18, 2023 1:41 AM

You must have insomnia r265 (?)

Does he help get you to sleep?

by Anonymousreply 266January 18, 2023 2:13 AM

[quote]My favorite actor on the show is Dominic Zamprogna. I’d love to see him have a big storyline.

I remember when Dominic started in 2009-2010, he was electric. You couldn't take your eyes off him. He was the most exciting thing on the show. He got fantastic writing and he gave great performances.

But the show hasn't really written for him in the past 6 to 8 years, especially the past two since he came back. The fact he can hold anyone's attention is a miracle.

by Anonymousreply 267January 18, 2023 2:23 AM

R267 = Video. Dante (Dominic) first week. Shirtless.

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by Anonymousreply 268January 18, 2023 2:58 AM

R268, thanks—I enjoyed that. I just started watching GH again last summer after an approximately 25-year hiatus. I remember when Rebecca Herbst first joined the show! There are a number of actors I remember clearly from that time who are still around, and I’m enjoying seeing ones newer to me. I find Dominic very authentic but I can see how he doesn’t come across to others as exciting nowadays. I do also love some of the more lively performers, such as Maura West. I really get a kick out of her.

by Anonymousreply 269January 18, 2023 4:08 AM

I've been waiting for Watros to open her can of Crazy Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 270January 18, 2023 4:42 AM

R264, I for one hate Carly but think LW is a gifted actress who plays the shit out of her:

by Anonymousreply 271January 18, 2023 7:17 AM

I’m in a similar boat to R265…quit watching in the ‘90s and then resumed during the pandemic. Zamprogna is an interesting case because he’s on almost every day—Dante the cop always has a reason to be standing around asking someone a question—but he never drives story. They must’ve given him a big guarantee to come back.

by Anonymousreply 272January 18, 2023 7:21 AM

I'm pretty sue Zamprogna reached out to TPTB to come back. Those steady paychecks are pretty missed when they're in the rearview mirror. I'm guessing eventually we'll get a Dante/Sam wedding so Lulu can wake up from her coma.

The thing about the reveal R262 is that since the audience has known for so long, and since they've written Willow as such a worthless cunt, the payoff wasn't that great. It wasn't written to Watros' strengths, or her "can of Crazy Bitch" as R270 called it.

by Anonymousreply 273January 18, 2023 10:24 AM

R262 The site has been on prime time since before Christmas. Only paying members can post.

by Anonymousreply 274January 18, 2023 12:55 PM

R274 Thank goodness

by Anonymousreply 275January 18, 2023 2:00 PM

R273 You're right he did lol for Frank has never really had much of an investment in Dante. When he first left back in 2016, it was because of Frank offering him a reduced rate contract with only five guarantees per month, and Dominic reportedly balked at such an offer and refused, so Dante was written out. He came back for a few guest appearances before Frank caved and let him return on a more permanent basis.

Also those are terrific points lol Willow is pretty insufferable especially since she's been with Michael and the whole waffling back and forth between him and Chase. As for Nina, even though that's what the audience wants, I don't think that's what Frank wants. Nina started off as a villain under Michelle then they watered her down to make her more worthy of being rooted for by victimizing her to be relatable and likable, which didn't necessarily work because a lot of ppl can't stand Michelle and/or her Nina. I think more ppl like Cynthia's Nina and he portrayal of Annie so they're expecting her to play like that lol except Frank/the writers don't want Nina to drive back down that crazy route, for they're positioning her as a heroine. The problem is that they're sort of weakening Nina because they don't have to make her crazy perse, yet they don't have to make her a victim either.

by Anonymousreply 276January 18, 2023 2:54 PM

R274 No wonder 😆 now it makes sense

by Anonymousreply 277January 18, 2023 2:54 PM

So since Esme and Willow are both pregnant and in the hospital...it looks like it could be an opportunity for Esme to lose her baby, only for Heather to sneak in and switch Esme's with Willow's, seeing how Willow will be ok other than despising Nina. It's a little too obvious and convenient so they shouldn't go there and be a little more creative lol however whatever creativity they've come up with is apparently being stifled (Esme's maternity, Hook killer'a identity, etc.) so even if they aren't switched there, they might be soon.

by Anonymousreply 278January 18, 2023 3:00 PM

Interesting R276.

Cynthia started as a heroine on GL as well, and then had time as sort of a troubled soul capable of both bad and good before she went full on crazy bitch.

But she was certainly most entertaining as a crazy bitch.

by Anonymousreply 279January 18, 2023 3:05 PM

R279 That's true lol she was sweet nurse Annie Dutton who was previously married to Dr. Rick Bauer (off screen I believe) then had an alcohol problem. Then she went off the deep end when her troubles got to her, primarily Reva returning from the "dead." I do think she'll rock it as crazy bitch Nina except they're probably not trying to go there since Nina has always played her crazy cards under Michelle and they don't want to undo any growth Nina has accomplished since then. However if they do go that route, Sonny should be sympathetic seeing how he's bipolar when everyone else writes her off as psychotic. It would be fun to watch, except they just might not go there.

by Anonymousreply 280January 18, 2023 5:49 PM

Lady Val's forehead is a work of art today.

by Anonymousreply 281January 18, 2023 7:42 PM

Entire reveal was a letdown. Mind you, Nina has been looking for her real kid since the Stafford days. I’m so tired of Carly skating in every story. These writers had the audacity to have Willow say she was better off with Harmony. The same Harmony who pimped her out to Shiloh. All of this to make Carly look good. None of this was to protect Willow - it’s because Carly was upset about Sonny and Nina. Beyond stupid.

And CW wiped the floor with LW during those scenes.

by Anonymousreply 282January 19, 2023 5:43 AM

Why the show has kept Willow---a mediocre boring character---is astounding. Course I can say the same thing about Cameron.

by Anonymousreply 283January 19, 2023 9:23 AM

At least Cameron has a penis.

by Anonymousreply 284January 19, 2023 3:16 PM

R284, a very tasty one!

by Anonymousreply 285January 19, 2023 3:18 PM

Cameron: "Sorry, Curtis. I thought your ad read "barback" not bareback.

by Anonymousreply 286January 19, 2023 5:55 PM

R282 Well damn 😆 tell us how you really feel 😆

by Anonymousreply 287January 19, 2023 6:13 PM

R282 No seriously those were accurate assessments. Then eventually Carly's going to be forgiven by Michael and Drew; Sonny will probably be upset longer than them however he'll come around too. Nina will confide in Ava and they'll agree how nasty and despicable Carly is, although that's how they already feel lol and nothing much will come from it. Nina could get revenge however they're writing Nina as more of a heroine so I guess they're Even Stevens now lol Carly kept Nelle and Willow away from Nina, while Nina is keeping Sonny and the Metro Court from her lol (even though Nina did try to give both of them back to her)

by Anonymousreply 288January 19, 2023 6:20 PM

R283 Because Frank likes her lol remember Willow and Sasha arrived around the same time; Willow was supposed to be Nina's daughter from the beginning, while the fake daughter Sasha was only scheduled to be short-term. Sasha grew on the audience more so Frank decided to keep her too. Nelle was really supposed to be Carly's except Frank wanted Nelle with Michael so badly that the writers were told to not make her related to Carly.

by Anonymousreply 289January 19, 2023 6:25 PM

Disagree intensely.

Cameron is especially likable.

Willow is a little bland bur an important part of the canvas.

Most of you just like to bitch about nothing.

by Anonymousreply 290January 20, 2023 8:11 AM

Willow is worthless and wouldn't be missed.

by Anonymousreply 291January 20, 2023 10:15 AM

I liked Sonny's self-awareness in his scenes with Carly yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 292January 20, 2023 11:27 AM

Hat wants that Emmy.

by Anonymousreply 293January 20, 2023 7:46 PM

All I want for Christmas next year is for Dex to smash Cam’s bussy.

by Anonymousreply 294January 20, 2023 8:53 PM

I can't stand the Hat man. And how many mental health stories do we need at one time!

by Anonymousreply 295January 21, 2023 2:13 AM

This show hasn’t had a decent story payoff in many, many years.

by Anonymousreply 296January 21, 2023 4:25 AM

At first I was thinking that Dex could be Brenda's son as some of you have also suggested, however after today anyone think it's possible that Dex is Sonny's? The only child that could've been born on-screen where the timeframe matches with Josslyn's birth is the son that Sonny lost with Claudia. Then there's also the possibility that Dex could be Sonny's nephew, by way of him being Rick's son, or maybe even Faith Roscoe's lol there's some sort of personal connection where Dex feels the need to get payback, which sounds more like a long lost child, other relative, or a child of an enemy.

by Anonymousreply 297January 24, 2023 10:51 PM

I am very attracted to the actor playing Dex. I would even be willing to give him my virginity.

I still love Cam’s hair but I’ve come to the conclusion that the actor playing him is truly atrocious. The way he speaks, especially when there are emotions involved, is not like people talk in real life.

by Anonymousreply 298January 24, 2023 11:01 PM

Can we have an honest discussion about Maxies obesity? This is way beyond a few extra pounds.

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by Anonymousreply 299January 25, 2023 2:39 AM

R298 Lol wait this is interesting are you a virgin in every way or just a partial virgin, like in certain areas? Or maybe you've been with women, and you want to lose your male virginity?

by Anonymousreply 300January 25, 2023 2:39 AM

Dex assuming the bj receiving position.

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by Anonymousreply 301January 25, 2023 2:52 AM

R300, I was joking. I’m a male whore like everyone else here.

by Anonymousreply 302January 25, 2023 3:08 AM

Well you can be a virgin many times, each first time with a different guy!

by Anonymousreply 303January 25, 2023 4:29 AM

Dex is like 5’2” and has tiny nipples. Still hot, though.

I enjoyed watching Cam not let Joss off the hook. Can someone direct him to her bitch mother, now?

by Anonymousreply 304January 25, 2023 5:24 AM

Dex still seems FTM to me.

Maxie and Sam, two brokedown whores, are having conversations in a bar, not at either's home, where their numerous children (by numerous men) are left fending for themselves.

by Anonymousreply 305January 25, 2023 9:50 AM

Why is Nicholas still in episodes.?..Wasn't he axed weeks ago? Shouldn't we have heard about a recast by now? Despite what Coloma says, he refused to film his final scenes. I have a bad feeling this is going to be a stupid "Nik disappears" plot.

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by Anonymousreply 306January 25, 2023 10:37 AM

Holy shit R299.

by Anonymousreply 307January 25, 2023 5:36 PM

The fact that they keep draping Maxie in that same pale peach sweater from Marshall’s and calling her a fashionista…

by Anonymousreply 308January 25, 2023 5:45 PM

R302 Lol it's rare to find any virgins these days so my interest was piqued lol I had questions, however I don't judge so it's nothing wrong with being a non-virgin.

R303 That's so true lol

by Anonymousreply 309January 26, 2023 3:02 AM

DEX....Evan Hofer...Totally Fem Teen....(22 second mark). There WILL be lisps!!...Giiiirl....

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by Anonymousreply 310January 26, 2023 7:50 AM

Evan...Off Script and FEM....(2:29)....With his "roommate"...Oh Dex...

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by Anonymousreply 311January 26, 2023 7:53 AM

That first interview at R310 screams Bryan Singer pool party poster boy. Evan's vocal coach must be rich as shit.

by Anonymousreply 312January 26, 2023 9:39 AM

I had assumed Carly and Drew were fucking since the cliffs of Jacksonville, but today was their first time? WHET soap whores? They’re all so prim and proper.

Also, die, Willow, die!

by Anonymousreply 313January 26, 2023 8:27 PM

I love Cliffs of Jacksonville!

by Anonymousreply 314January 26, 2023 11:34 PM

Send Drew back into captivity. Is he really only around to lick Carly’s ass? Embarrassing!

by Anonymousreply 315January 26, 2023 11:55 PM

Drew Ryan Lavery. I never realized CM had no range until he joined GH.

by Anonymousreply 316January 27, 2023 12:46 AM

Matheson was the perfect kind of bland for Hallmark. I wonder why he went back to soaps?

by Anonymousreply 317January 27, 2023 9:34 AM

R317 = Ryan is 53. Not exactly in his prime. I wouldn't be surprised if Hallmark sent him on his way.

by Anonymousreply 318January 27, 2023 9:51 AM

R317 He asked to come back because he needed steady work. Like R318 said he was sort of "aging out" for other actors like Ryan Paevey were starting to become Hallmark stars. Also, his hosting duties on Entertainment Tonight seemed to diminish as well. His Drew is more Ryan and less of Billy Miller's Drew, however Frank usually chooses actors over characters, even if some of his recasts or new characters don't make sense with particular actors in the role.

by Anonymousreply 319January 27, 2023 6:50 PM

Billy Miller's Drew would never have forgiven Carly. You are right -Matheson is playing himself, certainly not the character of Drew we knew.

by Anonymousreply 320January 27, 2023 6:54 PM

Colomas last episode was yesterday....Nick Recast. Is it Adam Huss? For the fans who think GH would ever hire Tyler Christopher back, I seriously doubt it. How many chances does one actor need? Plus he had issues on Days. I don't see his return happening.

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by Anonymousreply 321January 28, 2023 12:35 AM

Dex has no shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 322January 28, 2023 12:59 AM

Not sure if you all remember her as Amelia Joffee but Annie Wersching died. Amelia was the producer on Sam’s tv show “Everyday Heroes”. Her father was one of Sam’s many husbands before she showed up in Port Charles. Really liked her as an actress. Cancer sucks.

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by Anonymousreply 323January 30, 2023 5:16 PM

Carly's ass is ginormous.

Frank, where is the caftan budget?

by Anonymousreply 324February 1, 2023 7:43 PM

I love how EVERYBODY has forgotten how awful Nina is

by Anonymousreply 325February 1, 2023 7:58 PM

How many of us were pleading with Willow to go into the light?

by Anonymousreply 326February 1, 2023 8:15 PM

R325 = Laura Wright

by Anonymousreply 327February 2, 2023 1:00 AM

R323 Remember well, R.I.P. That's when Kelly Monaco was considering leaving for prime-time, so they wrote Sam sleeping with Ric, gave her multiple ex-husbands, had her stand by while Jake was kidnapped, etc. Then Kelly decided to stay at the last minute so they had to redeem her somewhat.

by Anonymousreply 328February 2, 2023 3:30 AM

Really wish they abstained from the cheesy smoke machine and white light effects in the Ghost Harmony scenes. How much more effective would those moments have been against a stark white background, unadorned?

I love how they styled Ghost Harmony in that black dress—she was promising Heaven but her look (and what we know about her) suggested someplace more sinister.

by Anonymousreply 329February 2, 2023 9:03 AM

Those scenes looked like a high school production of Beauty School Dropout from Grease. Supercuts employee of the month Harmony was leading weeping Willow to the wash station to rinse the activator out of her perm.

by Anonymousreply 330February 2, 2023 9:31 AM

The redemption of Harmony - who literally pimped out her child and murdered multiple people - to make Nina look terrible and Carly right for keeping the maternity secret is beyond ridiculous. I don’t understand the obsession with Carly on this show.

by Anonymousreply 331February 2, 2023 11:18 AM

R329 R330 😆 😆 😆 at the production value, Harmony in the black dress, and Weeping Willow

by Anonymousreply 332February 2, 2023 5:24 PM

R331 The obsession with Carly goes all the way back to when Sarah Brown first played her; scriptwriter Elizabeth Korte is a big fan of the character, since Carly's inception, and so is Frank, who loved 90's GH (Ron was a bigger fan of 80's GH) so no matter who's playing her, they're obsessed with the character. As former writer Michele val Jean pointed out years ago, Carly must always win (along with Sonny and Jason) so even if she's down, she's never out. They've positioned her as the leading female of the show, and that's why Frank thought he struck gold with Nelle, for she was slated to be Carly 2.0 lol unfortunately Nelle nor Chloe Lanier really caught on with fans like Sarah Brown, Tamara Braun.

by Anonymousreply 333February 2, 2023 5:32 PM

Also Laura Wright has her built in fanbase from Loving/The City & Guiding Light however there are ppl who still favor Sarah's and Tamara's Carly over hers lol

by Anonymousreply 334February 2, 2023 5:35 PM

Huh R333 ? "They've positioned her as the leading female of the show, and that's why Frank thought he struck gold with Nelle, for she was slated to be Carly 2.0 lol unfortunately Nelle nor Chloe Lanier really caught on with fans like Sarah Brown, Tamara Braun."

These threads have often reported that rather than making Nelle a Carly 2.0, Frank thought they should put Nelle and Michael together. Nelle always seemed to be poised to be a baby that Carly gave up before she left Florida to blow up Bobbie's life.

by Anonymousreply 335February 2, 2023 5:41 PM

R335 I'm one of the main ones who's reported that Nelle was supposed to be Carly's daughter 😂 which she was, until Frank instructed the writers to not make her Carly's daughter, however he wanted her linked to Carly somehow, which is where the Frank Benson angle originated from. In the story, it wasn't necessarily that Carly had voluntarily given Nelle up, that was going to be what Nelle was led to believe, for Carly (like Nina) would've thought she was stillborn or blocked it out, maybe Frank sold the baby, etc. (I don't think they were planning to have Virginia giving her up)

What I'm saying is that Frank still positioned her after Carly. Going back to when Nelle first arrived, how she was trying to undermine Carly, working under her, ultimately trying to destroy her life, attempting to (or pretending to) sleep with Carly's husband, then being involved with Michael, getting pregnant, etc. that was all based off of Carly's history with Bobbie, Tony, and AJ with Carly, Sonny, and Michael in those roles. Yes usually when someone is supposed to be a 2.0 version of a character, there is a relation, however, that's not always the case. There are characters who are based (either loosely or not) off other characters without any form of relation to them, on several other soaps. That's also why the Nelle backstory reveal happened in April of 2020, with the flashbacks, for Frank wanted that to air around the 24th anniversary of Carly's arrival in Port Charles. Frank thinks that Maxie is a 2.0 version of Erica Kane 😂 so he tends to see things differently than others. Since Chloe Lanier received such high praise for her portrayal of a young Pat Spencer, he kept her in mind, for he wanted to bring her back for a big role, which was a younger version of Carly. His problem was that he wanted to redo the Carly/AJ angle too, which was against what the writers were trying to do, which was have her as Carly's daughter. They even redid Carly falling down the stairs while pregnant with Sonny's baby when Nelle purposely fell and framed Carly for pushing her lol if Chloe wouldn't have asked to be let out of her contract, Frank would still be in the process of shoving her down everyone's throats.

by Anonymousreply 336February 2, 2023 7:16 PM

If Spencer doesn’t trim his claws I’m not going to let him finger me anymore.

by Anonymousreply 337February 2, 2023 10:45 PM

Chloe Lanier didn’t impress me in that Luke episode and she didn’t impress me as Nelle. She was a boring actress with a weird face. She would’ve been better in a Duggar biopic.

And while I understand GH always favored Carly, it’s never been this bad. LW’s one-note portrayal also doesn’t help.

by Anonymousreply 338February 2, 2023 11:19 PM

I liked Chloe Lanier. I always thought she did what she was supposed to do. Be a troublemaker and foil to Carly. I also never liked Carly when she first showed up but she evolved over time. Nelle never got that chance.

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by Anonymousreply 339February 2, 2023 11:39 PM

R338 😆 😆 other ppl have compared her to an Amish or Little House On The Prairie character so I see the comparison. Imo Esme is more of what Nelle should've or could've been, with a stronger actress in the role. IA that Chloe Lanier was underwhelming and less than stellar lol it also didn't help that she had developed somewhat of a "big head" on set. She let the accolades she received as Pat inflate her ego, so when Frank specifically handed the role of Nelle to her, the rumors were that she was walking around like she was younger Meryl Streep 😆 😆 which also led to her asking to be released early from her contract, hoping to go from one "big break" to an even bigger one outside of GH.

Well Wendy Riche didn't get along with Sarah, and Bob Guza/Jill Farren Phelps grew to dislike Tamara, so Laura for one doesn't have those backstage problems lol also, Sarah and Tamara, along with Jennifer Bransford, seemed to have a vulnerability about them that they brought to Carly, which lacks in Laura's performances. She plays Carly like a mean girl, smirking through her scenes with an air of conceit. The previous Carly's played Carly as insecure with abandonment issues, making her more sympathetic and relatable. Even when they schemed, you could see where they were coming from and why they did certain things. LW's version is more like a former bully who's now morphed into a suburban soccer mom who still has that mean girl streak lol while there have been some who've stated that essentially Laura Wright is playing herself 😆 😆

by Anonymousreply 340February 2, 2023 11:39 PM

R339 Chloe asked to be let go and Frank chose not to recast. She probably would've evolved under a different actress.

by Anonymousreply 341February 2, 2023 11:43 PM

Look at this punim.

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by Anonymousreply 342February 3, 2023 2:22 AM

Ergh, I mean *this* punim.

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by Anonymousreply 343February 3, 2023 2:24 AM

All right fuck this IBB is freaking out

by Anonymousreply 344February 3, 2023 2:25 AM

I hate to be this person, but Kelly's face is disturbing. And what the fuck happened to Josh Kelly. He used to be gorgeous. And poor Kirsten Storms, drugs are a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 345February 3, 2023 2:28 AM

Kirsten Storms would’ve been let go for looking the way she does in another era. She’s fat AND a lazy actress. Even makeup and wardrobe has given up on her.

by Anonymousreply 346February 3, 2023 2:31 AM

Actual screenshot of Maxie. Todays episode.

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by Anonymousreply 347February 3, 2023 6:11 AM

Spencer at 23..Rough. This will not be a pretty 30..

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by Anonymousreply 348February 3, 2023 6:15 AM
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