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What happened to the Harry we all knew?

So how on earth did it happen? How did we end up here?

It is the question posed by the Duke of Sussex at the start of Harry & Meghan, Netflix’s six-hour deep dive into his self-imposed exile in California. And if he is confused, we can perhaps be forgiven for feeling that, halfway through this marathon soul-baring exercise, we are not much the wiser either.

What is clear is that a cheeky, fun-loving boy has grown into an introspective, embittered man – estranged from his family – who now clings to his feisty, beautiful wife like a life raft.

When I began reporting on the Royal family, Prince Harry was a lively, impudent five-year-old. Everyone at the Palace would tell me that he was full of mischief, always getting into trouble and not half as sensitive as his older brother: “Harry? Oh, no need to worry about him. He’s just naughty and enjoys it!”

Ken Wharfe, former protection officer to the boys’ mother, Diana, Princess of Wales, recalls how the young prince was fascinated by equipment and loved to play with the police radio. He invented games in which the boy was sent on “a mission”. But one day, instead of just hiding around the Kensington Palace grounds as agreed, he radioed in to tell a horrified Ken that he was actually in a record shop on the High Street. He was ordered to return immediately.

During one of my lengthy conversations with Diana in her Palace apartment, she told me that, in spite of the breakdown of her marriage, the boys were “generally fine”. “Harry in particular,” she said. “Everything seems to bounce off him. But I talk to them constantly about everything and make sure they ask any questions they want. And I shower them with love and cuddles, because I didn’t get any as a child.”

So it is good to hear from Harry’s own mouth that, in spite of all that has happened in the past few years, he will always be that “cheeky person inside”.

Not that there is much evidence of it in these first three episodes. Instead we hear a tale of love, hate and racism. The love story between Harry and Meghan is cute and interesting (if you are sufficiently invested in them to want to hear the minutiae of their dating history). The hatred that Harry says was directed at his wife and son is deeply unpleasant – although there is no evidence to support the worst of the claims.

There is, though, real hatred spewing from Harry towards the media: accredited press, experts, royal correspondents and paparazzi are all lumped together into one foul-smelling dung heap.

Indeed, the prince says that he feels it is his duty to uncover “the exploitation and bribery within the media”, which is a wild and unsubstantiated accusation. Yes, of course money is sometimes paid for people to tell their stories – but hang on Harry: haven’t you and Meghan just been paid millions of dollars to dish the dirt on your own family and country?

The whole sorry affair is shot through with accusations of racism in British society at large and in the Royal Family itself, even if it was “unconscious bias”.

Harry has certainly found his voice and, in doing so, has proved that he is more Spencer than Windsor. He admires his mother for making her decisions from the heart not the head. It’s something he is clearly proud to emulate.

“I am my mother‘s son,” he declares. The pain of losing her has caused him to block out many of his early memories. He takes a quick swipe at his father by saying he was left to deal with her death “without much help, support or guidance”.

Curiously, this contradicts what he said just five years ago, when he praised the King for having “been there” for his sons after Diana’s death and doing his best to protect them.

On a happier note, Harry does remember a childhood full of laughter and adventure, and he clearly cherishes his mother’s advice that he could “get into trouble, but don’t get caught”.

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by Anonymousreply 82December 16, 2022 6:36 AM

Oh do fuck off, you boring cunt.

by Anonymousreply 1December 11, 2022 10:07 PM

It’s a lesson he has learned the hard way. Being snapped wearing nothing but a necklace in a Las Vegas hotel room during a game of strip pool was certainly a low point. As was the fancy dress party at which he dressed up as a Nazi. In the documentary he describes his decision to wear the uniform as one of the biggest mistakes of his life, for which he sought retribution by going to meet a Holocaust survivor in Berlin.

Diana was not there to guide him through those mistakes, but he does remember her as his childhood protector, shielding him when she could from the press and paparazzi. It is clear that his resentment against the press dates back to his earliest years. He says he felt uncomfortable in front of the cameras “from the get-go”.

Indeed, the documentary shows Diana in warrior mode during a skiing holiday with her sons. Infuriated by the press intrusion, she marched over the snow to clap her hand over a cameraman’s lens and plead with him to allow her boys some space.

The princess was furious and told me later that she had done it because there were 80 cameras trained on the family and she felt she had to protect her sons.

“I feel raped,” she said. “I use that word a lot, I know, but I do feel raped by those prying eyes. I had to tell that cameraman he was making our lives hell.”

Curiously, she didn’t mention Harry, but said that it was William who didn’t like the cameras, even though he would have to get used to them. He was, she said, very sensitive. And now we know that his brother was equally so.

Harry uses this example in the programme to talk about the “pain and suffering” of women marrying into the Royal family, but doesn’t mention that Diana had chosen to jettison her protection officers, or that she regularly cooperated with a select band of reporters and photographers, briefing them with stories or tipping them off on her whereabouts.

He does, however, talk about his mother’s Panorama interview. He believes the princess spoke the truth of her experience in the BBC programme, even though it was obtained under false pretences by a rogue reporter.

I think he is right, because Diana had told me almost everything that was in that interview five months earlier. But the use of the Panorama footage is bound to upset Prince William, who has publicly called for the interview never to be broadcast again.

In Meghan, Harry seems to have found a new mentor from whom, he says, he has learned a great deal. “So much of what Meghan is, and how she is, is so similar to my mum. She has the same compassion; she has the same empathy; she has the same confidence; she has this warmth about her.”

The difference, perhaps, is that Diana believed strongly in the institution of monarchy. Harry is right to say she endured “pain and suffering”, but that was because of a desperately unhappy marriage. If the fairy tale had lasted, Diana would be Charles’s Queen today.

Meghan, by contrast, was clearly bewildered by the whole edifice of monarchy: the structure, the formality and the hierarchy. It was evidently a shock to find she had joined not just a family, but a firm: a firm of which she would never be the chief executive.

She complains that she was given no guidance, but tried to fit in, to blend into the background and not outshine any of the others. And she appears blissfully ignorant of the irony of declaring that she “didn’t want to embarrass the family”. Well, Meghan, you’ve certainly gone and done that now.

So far, the barbs in this latest onslaught have been hurtful but relatively harmless. But with another three hours of blood-letting to come, the Royal family may be more than simply “embarrassed”.

by Anonymousreply 2December 11, 2022 10:08 PM

i really don't get all of this whingeing from the British tabloid rag "press."

"You took our Harry away from us!"

"You brainwashed our Harry!"

Obviously, M3ghan gives him something he was looking for. She fills some kind of hole in his life.

I honestly can't tell if it's because she's biracial, or American, or an actress, or all of the above, that they have such a problem with.

But the bottom line is: IT'S HIS LIFE. Let him get on with it, and leave him and his wife the fuck alone!

by Anonymousreply 3December 11, 2022 10:11 PM

He's dumb as a post and he's pussy-whipped.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 11, 2022 10:18 PM

Calm your tits, R3

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by Anonymousreply 5December 11, 2022 10:18 PM

[quote]What happened to the Harry we all knew?

Can’t help you there OP. I had never heard of him until July 2016.

by Anonymousreply 6December 11, 2022 10:21 PM

John Lennon’s mom died young. He found a mommy in strong woman Yoko. Same thing happened to JFK Jr., he replaced mommy with a strong force of nature, Carolyn. These men with mother wounds just love a woman who isnt afraid to dominate them

by Anonymousreply 7December 11, 2022 10:23 PM

He married a fame hungry narcissist, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 8December 11, 2022 10:26 PM

[QUOTE]“So much of what Meghan is, and how she is, is so similar to my mum. She has the same compassion; she has the same empathy; she has the same confidence; she has this warmth about her.”

It sounds almost like he's trying to convince himself.

On a completely superficial level, what's happened to Harry's hair? Through his teens and twenties it looked smooth and straight. In his thirties it took on a frizzy, brillo pad texture that sticks out every which way. I've never seen this. Is it a consequence of chronic drug use?

by Anonymousreply 9December 11, 2022 10:54 PM

He's an asshole.

So is his wife, the narc famewhore.

by Anonymousreply 10December 11, 2022 11:54 PM

r3, you talk about him as if he were Greta Garbo. If he'd stop shoving his life down our throats everyone would be happy to leave him alone.

by Anonymousreply 11December 11, 2022 11:57 PM

R3 yeah. Really, the only thing about her that would irritate People is her racial background. Honestly, nothing else comes to mind. It’s a total mystery . Whay weird racial obsession is feeding this?

by Anonymousreply 12December 12, 2022 12:24 AM

R12, zzz ... try harder.

by Anonymousreply 13December 12, 2022 12:28 AM

[quote] Obviously, M3ghan gives him something he was looking for. She fills some kind of hole in his life.

Oh yes, she does --- she fills his asshole with her strap-on.

by Anonymousreply 14December 12, 2022 12:29 AM

Thecteais Harry on the DL and his wife is blackmailing him. Tbe Soho Club is where she allegedly witnessed his M/M shenanigans. She alluded to it with the "roast chicken" comment i that joint interview.

by Anonymousreply 15December 12, 2022 12:33 AM

[quote] he replaced mommy with a strong force of nature, Carolyn.

Who's Carolyn?

by Anonymousreply 16December 12, 2022 12:35 AM

R15, did you have a stroke?

by Anonymousreply 17December 12, 2022 12:36 AM

R13. You mistyped. It was rR3 with the brain dead post. You can correct that it your next post.

by Anonymousreply 18December 12, 2022 12:38 AM

He grew up and became a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 19December 12, 2022 12:47 AM

[quote] she fills his asshole with her strap-on

HOT!

by Anonymousreply 20December 12, 2022 12:58 AM

To answer my question at R9...

[QUOTE]Ultra-structural alterations of hair obtained from cocaine users -- In the examination of the hair shafts of cocaine abusers, it was found that the keratinized structure was damaged in all individuals and 97.2% of their hair samples, and hair shafts were detected as ribbon-like and irregular (Figure 2A). Electron microscopic examination of hair also reveals that cuticle layer, which is the most outer layer of hair shaft, was almost disappeared in 95.8% of the samples.

Hasn't DL suspected the couple uses cocaine prior to some engagements? A few years ago a YouTuber posted a compilation of pre-Harry clips with Meghan grinding her teeth/jaw.

by Anonymousreply 21December 12, 2022 1:00 AM

William is the one this question should be asked of. Actually we already know the answer, he became more like Charles. I will take Harry ANY DAY over William, Harry is so much more like Diana!

by Anonymousreply 22December 12, 2022 1:01 AM

R22. Batshit crazy Diana is so 1990s. Nobody wants someone like her in public life now. Yes, Harry is her true heir.

by Anonymousreply 23December 12, 2022 1:03 AM

R15 here, should read "The tea is that Harry on the DL"

by Anonymousreply 24December 12, 2022 4:02 AM

If R22 could only explain what he meant vis a vis the mother who so cruelly abandoned ... the poor helpless tot after decades.

The child she meant to be the UK monarch who she constantly championed over William, is nor special in any way, other than being an upper class doofus.

In other words, Diana was THE template for Harry's indefensible defense.

by Anonymousreply 25December 12, 2022 8:30 AM

[QUOTE]Are you afraid of the question you never answered?

Other than being decent enough to be invited when foreign dignitaries try to move away from their foreign fumes

William is the one this question should be asked of.

by Anonymousreply 26December 12, 2022 8:40 AM

Except that theatric cunts should be a demonstrated foul aside for other creative humans?

by Anonymousreply 27December 12, 2022 8:47 AM

"Except that theatric cunts should be a demonstrated foul aside for/from other creative humans?:

And here you go trying to demonstrate like others are irresponsible humans due to OUR RESPONSIBILITY when passers-by grab unwilling females?

Except, you are an expecting a new form of girls who are "newxies" You are a spectacular cunt who pretends to be a "human executive ."

by Anonymousreply 28December 12, 2022 8:58 AM

[quote]Being snapped wearing nothing but a necklace in a Las Vegas hotel room during a game of strip pool was certainly a low point.

One begs to differ!

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by Anonymousreply 29December 12, 2022 9:03 AM

When will useless male cunts stop being themselves?

by Anonymousreply 30December 12, 2022 9:25 AM

Without the face fur you can see what a fat fuck he is. Fat clown baby. He's a filthy rich bitch who's envious and resentful of others. It shouldn't be possible, but it is!

The Harry you knew was not the real Harry, clearly. You were wrong about him. He had you fooled. Not just him, the palace has been covering for him all of his life, helping to hide his true nature.

No matter how much we see and hear about celebrities, we don't actually know them! None of them.

by Anonymousreply 31December 12, 2022 9:57 AM

[quote] Without the face fur you can see what a fat fuck he is. Fat clown baby.

Harry has a very fit body.

William will never take off his shirt for a photo like this one because:

A) He's ugly.

B) No one wants to see him with his shirt off.

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by Anonymousreply 32December 12, 2022 10:43 AM

I assume this is who Harry always was.

by Anonymousreply 33December 12, 2022 10:46 AM

R72 and R81 are both correct.

I get the impression that the Americans/Europeans who love going to those places, don't live around many of those people.

Which is why you find them so interesting and "exotic."

Try growing up in areas on the coasts which are heavily populated with them.

I guarantee you won't find them so interesting or exotic any more.

by Anonymousreply 34December 12, 2022 10:49 AM

If you Google pictures of him before, say, 2017, he always seemed to be smiling, and exuberant. Then he got married and he always seems dour, miserable and angry. It’s sad.

by Anonymousreply 35December 12, 2022 10:58 AM

He was never the affable Harry we thought we knew.

He was a product of Palace PR spin.

Just like all the Hollywood celebrities' personas are manufactured by their PR teams.

by Anonymousreply 36December 12, 2022 11:01 AM

When he removed his shirt on camera, we all saw that he has moobs. The man needs a bro or manzier. Stat.

by Anonymousreply 37December 12, 2022 11:11 AM

He was a uterine abacus who produced N7MER LEAVING AN GRLOBUTEIR, RATHER THAN BE-USELEFS in a natural language, Re gardening

I'm another person otherwise!

by Anonymousreply 38December 12, 2022 11:15 AM

What would have happened if he married Chelsy Davy instead?

by Anonymousreply 39December 12, 2022 11:50 AM

^ She didn't want to marry him. Iirc, she said he was paranoid and rough in the sack. He was obviously disgruntled before he met Meghan. She's just made him worse. I think he's always been an entitled prick like uncle Andrew.

by Anonymousreply 40December 12, 2022 12:01 PM

Prince Harry became a sex offeder, right, as he became such an unusual rutch per the Palace.

by Anonymousreply 41December 12, 2022 12:18 PM

What happened to him? He grew a pair and decided to live his life on his own terms, not those of that tourist trap of a family stuck in the past of his.

by Anonymousreply 42December 12, 2022 12:22 PM

R38 is a typical William/Kate/BRF-STAN.

Totally incoherent, incomprehensible, and babbling gibberish.

Most likely mentally ill, as well.

by Anonymousreply 43December 12, 2022 12:24 PM

Snort!

by Anonymousreply 44December 12, 2022 12:26 PM

Feisty beautiful wife?? You spelled fug ass narcissist old hag wrong.

by Anonymousreply 45December 12, 2022 12:27 PM

Long Story Short - Harry Has Been Pussy-Whipped.

by Anonymousreply 46December 12, 2022 12:28 PM

[quote] What happened to the Harry we all knew?

In other words: "The Harry we all knew would NEVER have married a black!"

-William, Kate, Princess Blackamoor of Kunt, the British Tabloid Rag Media, Right Wing Brits, etc.

by Anonymousreply 47December 12, 2022 12:30 PM

Love that Harry isn't controlled anymore by the royal family, the British press or the Brits themselves. LOVE IT!

by Anonymousreply 48December 12, 2022 12:43 PM

Ok Meghan @ R48. Now do some pussywhipping again so that Harry will remain dumb and blind to your lunacy.

by Anonymousreply 49December 12, 2022 12:52 PM

R32-Who would have ever thought William would turn out the way he has. Remember back in the 90's when everybody thought he was gorgeous?

by Anonymousreply 50December 12, 2022 12:54 PM

The OP's photo of Harry reminds me of someone...

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by Anonymousreply 51December 12, 2022 12:56 PM

R49 You can't even think for yourself - you have to follow whatever the crazies say on here. Reach for the stars, Mary.

by Anonymousreply 52December 12, 2022 12:57 PM

Ok Meghan @ R52. Now go back to Harry telling him what to think and do.

by Anonymousreply 53December 12, 2022 1:00 PM

[quote] you have to follow whatever the crazies say on here.

Says of all people this site's resident Sussex stinkfish who obviously got herself another account because everybody has blocked her former one/s.

by Anonymousreply 54December 12, 2022 1:02 PM

R51! I tried to post the same! Great picture!

by Anonymousreply 55December 12, 2022 1:04 PM

R53, keep repeating what all the other ladies on here are boring us with, cunt.

by Anonymousreply 56December 12, 2022 1:04 PM

With Just Harry, I liked him and William both. I get the feeling though, there was no there, there. The Harry we knew was a jolly, kooky figment of our collective imagination. Now in CA, he is free to reinvent himself and just be a private citizen if he wants. The old Harry was entertaining at times. I liked the Diana-William-Harry triad they put out there. Their story was oddly comforting.

by Anonymousreply 57December 12, 2022 1:10 PM

You're welcome, Meghan @ R56. :-*

by Anonymousreply 58December 12, 2022 1:18 PM

^ You're welcome, Camilla.

by Anonymousreply 59December 12, 2022 1:23 PM

The truth is that Harry didn't change.

The people around him changed.

They're stuck up and judgmental, and they honestly had numerous problems with who he chose to be his wife.

That's where all the problems started.

Harry chose who he chose, and they didn't like it. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 60December 12, 2022 1:32 PM

R40, I think it was Cressida who said that. They dated for two years.

by Anonymousreply 61December 12, 2022 1:32 PM

R60 if my son chose someone like La Markle to be his wife, I'd have numerous problems with that, too.

Here's the reason why:

She's an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 62December 12, 2022 1:44 PM

[quote] if my son chose someone like La Markle to be his wife, I'd have numerous problems with that, too.

[quote] Here's the reason why:

[quote] She's an asshole.

But they didn't know her at the time.

They didn't know her at all.

So their judgment of her was clearly based on something else.

And we all know what that was.

by Anonymousreply 63December 12, 2022 1:47 PM

Harry needs to come out as a bisexual and find his own way.

That will win his way back into the hearts 💕 of the British people.

by Anonymousreply 64December 12, 2022 1:49 PM

William fucked it all up, by asking what color their kids would be.

I don't think that Harry realized it at the time, what a horrible, racist prick William really is/was.

William should have kept his fat, fucking mouth SHUT.

by Anonymousreply 65December 12, 2022 1:52 PM

Blocking R68/R63/R65 now, it's defo the Sussex stinkfish using a new account.

Bye, bitch. See you @ your next account (which will be blocked soon, too).

by Anonymousreply 66December 12, 2022 1:55 PM

^ thanks R66 he's so insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 67December 12, 2022 1:58 PM

R67 it's the Sussex stinkfish who keeps creating shitloads of these inane BRF threads, probably hoping that ALL the BRF threads will get deleted as a result.

by Anonymousreply 68December 12, 2022 2:00 PM

From OP / R60 / R63 / R65:

[quote] Between the anorexia breath and cigarette breath, having sex with Kate must be like having sex with Harvey Weinstein!

[quote I am William and I suffer from constipation

There are lots of similarly stupid posts. Tells you all you need to know about this very user.

by Anonymousreply 69December 12, 2022 2:06 PM

Harry should have married Cressida Bonas. She's aristocratic and would have fit in.

by Anonymousreply 70December 12, 2022 5:11 PM

Maybe if she had been treated nicer by that bunch of posh inbred bigots her inner asshole would have never come out and she and Harry would still be working for the Monarchy. But as with all who marry into that 'klan', it's the family's way or the highway. Some are willing to bend to their ways, for the money and station, but others are not. Harry was not going to let them do to Meghan what they did to his mother.

by Anonymousreply 71December 12, 2022 6:07 PM

What's a "Sussex Stinkfish?"

by Anonymousreply 72December 13, 2022 12:22 AM

Sunflower Stinks

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by Anonymousreply 73December 13, 2022 4:43 AM

What happened to the William we all knew?

Oh, that's right. He's still a dick.

by Anonymousreply 74December 13, 2022 6:22 AM

r73 There are some gems in there. Especially the Sunshine Sachs employees saying they hired an online terror orgnisation called the Psycho Squad to destroy the lives of any of the Sussexes critics. Also the Body Language guy. Nicely done.

by Anonymousreply 75December 13, 2022 6:27 AM

Harry is so much hotter than William.

Always has been.

Always will be.

by Anonymousreply 76December 13, 2022 8:39 PM

^also harbors a secret crush on Sam Smith.

by Anonymousreply 77December 13, 2022 8:49 PM

[quote] So their judgment of her was clearly based on something else. And we all know what that was.

Here we go...

by Anonymousreply 78December 13, 2022 11:18 PM

Harry's living his life outside the constraints of the royal family. William's life is scripted. Take your pick, bitches.

by Anonymousreply 79December 14, 2022 1:53 PM

R79, Harry is living his life inside the constraints of Meghan. His life is scripted by his wife.

So my pick is pretty clear, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 80December 14, 2022 2:06 PM

Hooray for Harry!! And yes, go William....just go.

by Anonymousreply 81December 15, 2022 4:01 PM

Here's a picture of William going . . .

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by Anonymousreply 82December 16, 2022 6:36 AM
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