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Harry and Meghan Arrive in New York City Ahead of Gala

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan are back in New York City.

The couple landed on Monday, arriving ahead of tonight's 2022 Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Ripple of Hope Award.

Alongside Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy and others, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are set to receive an award that honors their work as "exemplary leaders across government, business, advocacy, and entertainment who have demonstrated an unwavering commitment to social change and worked to protect and advance equity, justice, and human rights," per the foundation's website.

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by Anonymousreply 264December 12, 2022 12:14 AM

William and Kate who?

by Anonymousreply 1December 6, 2022 8:47 PM

[quote]exemplary leaders across government, business, advocacy, and entertainment who have demonstrated an unwavering commitment to social change and worked to protect and advance equity, justice, and human rights,

He carries on his mother's work. Yes, he is the People's Prince.

by Anonymousreply 2December 6, 2022 8:51 PM

Do they fly commercial?

by Anonymousreply 3December 6, 2022 9:52 PM

How long did it take to get their arses in gear for the content for the streamers? Didn't production teams need to be brought in and threats made? And Dimbo's book was ghost-written. How hard that must have been. Jeeze.

R3, they probably think commercial isn't safe, what with MM being so hounded and chased like Diana *eyeroll*. They probably charge all their private jet flights to Archewell.

Hopefully the press will publish any photos of MM in ridiculous get ups in the documentary. I'm hoping that red dress and her other public outfits were only the tip of the iceberg. The red dress proved she was delusional.

by Anonymousreply 4December 6, 2022 9:58 PM

Gold.

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by Anonymousreply 5December 6, 2022 10:04 PM

[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]

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by Anonymousreply 6December 6, 2022 10:07 PM

Doing their part to reduce carbon emissions!

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by Anonymousreply 7December 6, 2022 10:28 PM

My puke is still puking, and now it's puking puke.

by Anonymousreply 8December 6, 2022 10:33 PM

And what, ostensibly. have they done to be rewarded for?

by Anonymousreply 9December 6, 2022 10:33 PM

Dear Klan Grannies:

[bold]HOW MANY OF THESE FUCKING POSTS DO YOU NEED TO DUMP ON THIS FUCKING BOARD EVERY SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING DAY??[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 10December 6, 2022 10:42 PM

Harry's eyes are so close to each other.

by Anonymousreply 11December 6, 2022 10:46 PM

exemplary leaders across government, business, advocacy, and entertainment who have demonstrated an unwavering commitment to social change and worked to protect and advance equity, justice, and human rights,

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by Anonymousreply 12December 6, 2022 10:57 PM

I'm too busy being a Humanitarian to call my father!

by Anonymousreply 13December 6, 2022 10:59 PM

Is the emcee still Alec Baldwin?

We hope you’ll join us for this year's Ripple of Hope Award Gala in New York City on Tuesday, December 6, to honor Frank Baker, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Siris; Brian Moynihan, Chair of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Bank of America; Michael Polsky, Founder and CEO of Invenergy; Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex; and President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. The ceremony will also recognize NBA legend and civil rights icon Bill Russell (1934 – 2022) with a posthumous award, and will feature emcee Alec Baldwin. 6:00 pm Cocktails | 7:00 pm Dinner | Cocktail Attire

by Anonymousreply 14December 6, 2022 11:01 PM

Maybe we'd better arrive in a Prius, dear.

by Anonymousreply 15December 6, 2022 11:02 PM
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by Anonymousreply 16December 6, 2022 11:04 PM

“Now look at me with adoration and do what I say and nobody will get hurt”

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by Anonymousreply 17December 6, 2022 11:22 PM

Thirsty ho alert!

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by Anonymousreply 18December 6, 2022 11:29 PM

“Excuse us. Humanitarians coming through. Keep it moving Toots”

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by Anonymousreply 19December 6, 2022 11:32 PM

You're welcome, New York.

by Anonymousreply 20December 6, 2022 11:33 PM

This explains the stench wafting through town today.

We thought it was from the downtown fish market.

by Anonymousreply 21December 6, 2022 11:38 PM

Don't look at me, for once!

by Anonymousreply 22December 6, 2022 11:41 PM

She is overdressed for "cocktails"

by Anonymousreply 23December 6, 2022 11:42 PM

They are at a pre-gala reception. Cocktails served.

They are perfectly dressed.

by Anonymousreply 24December 6, 2022 11:51 PM

Do you see ME?

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by Anonymousreply 25December 6, 2022 11:51 PM

THE ENTIRE EVENT is specified for "cocktail attire". She will be the only woman there in a gown.

by Anonymousreply 26December 6, 2022 11:55 PM

Couldn't find a +1, r26?

by Anonymousreply 27December 6, 2022 11:57 PM

I still can't believe she did an interview with Andy Cohen. Would have thought it would be beneath them.

by Anonymousreply 28December 6, 2022 11:59 PM

I have never ever make excuses for Meghan before thsi--I think she's horrible.

But I will say this in favor this one time: if you are a royal duchess as well as one of the guests of honor, it is absolutely impossible to overdress.

by Anonymousreply 29December 7, 2022 12:00 AM

Now THIS is what Meg signed up for, before the pesky pandemic shut things down.

Eyes! Hair! Mouth! Figure! Dress! Voice! Style! Movement! Hands! Magic! Rings! Glamour! Face! Diamonds! Excitement! Image!

by Anonymousreply 30December 7, 2022 12:00 AM

She finally learned how to bring the bronzer down correctly from the face to the décolletage with a sweep over the shoulders.

Then blend, blend, blend.

by Anonymousreply 31December 7, 2022 12:05 AM

Her ski nose is ridiculous.

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by Anonymousreply 32December 7, 2022 12:10 AM

Is Kerry Kennedy really wearing that too-short cocktail dress over tree stump thick legs accented by Mary Jane pumps that draw attention to her awful legs? At least she knows or acknowledges what cocktail attire means... Those two would have been better off trading their frocks.

by Anonymousreply 33December 7, 2022 12:10 AM

Do Kerry Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy get along?

by Anonymousreply 34December 7, 2022 12:12 AM

Alec and Hilarious

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by Anonymousreply 35December 7, 2022 12:13 AM

Expect boos.

Have any of you read the comments left on the H & M stories on the Daily Mail site? Oh goodness. These two are h a t e d by Brits. Just set the comments to Best Rated.

Forget their past actions and words about the royals. Still, this award was not earned. So many others do so much for this cause, it seems so unfair that she is getting it.

Oh well. Why can't they live in Canada? Let's deport them. I know the Britons do not want them back. God help me, I'm beyond sick of both, but especially the long-time privileged spoiled brat who belongs in a bozo costume.

by Anonymousreply 36December 7, 2022 12:14 AM

Alfre Woodard

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by Anonymousreply 37December 7, 2022 12:14 AM

I want to see Hilaria, and Meghan try to out attention whore each other. Meghan actually looks decent for once.

by Anonymousreply 38December 7, 2022 12:15 AM

Are you following me Mr. Cameraman?

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by Anonymousreply 39December 7, 2022 12:15 AM

41 and she STILL doesn't understand her own body. Jesus. Someone help her. Boxy and too long. She's thinner, but not quite enough for that length. ... she looks lovely, for a civilian. But not a star.

by Anonymousreply 40December 7, 2022 12:17 AM

Oh Lord. It’s “broadcast journalist” Gayle!

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by Anonymousreply 41December 7, 2022 12:17 AM

Still puking and I think I'm getting dehydrated so I'm heading for Urgent SussexaaarrghhAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!dribbledribbleHEAVE Care now.

by Anonymousreply 42December 7, 2022 12:19 AM

Meghan is dumb. I know the Royal family is stodgy, but she should’ve played along, at least for a while. Better to be big fish in a smaller pond. She and Harry come off as a more modern couple and would have been more popular than W&K, who I think anyone under 65 can agree are pretty boring. Sure M&H are phony as hell, but so are the rest of the Royal family. They both blew it.

by Anonymousreply 43December 7, 2022 12:19 AM

Ooooh. Now it’s a party.

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by Anonymousreply 44December 7, 2022 12:21 AM

R36 what do the Brits have to do with this? They’re receiving this in NYC. Not London. They aren’t getting boos

by Anonymousreply 45December 7, 2022 12:21 AM

Meghan thrives in front of the camera with all the attention. It's the only time she looks truly happy.

by Anonymousreply 46December 7, 2022 12:22 AM

r18 I thought Prince Harry said the flashlight from media cameras traumatized him.Odd he seems quite happy there in the limelight.

by Anonymousreply 47December 7, 2022 12:23 AM

"Never marry an actress."

by Anonymousreply 48December 7, 2022 12:23 AM

The Unholy Trinity.

Why is she always clutching his arm?

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by Anonymousreply 49December 7, 2022 12:25 AM

R14 Never heard of any of the honorees so they invited La Markle and spouse to get some attention. Zelensky obviously isn't going to show up in person. And what has he done for black people? Hmm? I recall all those Africans bitching about being mistreated in Ukraine.

by Anonymousreply 50December 7, 2022 12:25 AM

R50 being a humanitarian isn’t just about black people…. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 51December 7, 2022 12:27 AM

Say it ain’t so R50. Word on the street is that Zelensky is going to present Megs with Sean Penn’s Academy Award!

by Anonymousreply 52December 7, 2022 12:30 AM

R51 then what are Don Lemon, Gayle King, Alfre Woodard doing there?

by Anonymousreply 53December 7, 2022 12:30 AM

R53 please tell me you’re joking.

by Anonymousreply 54December 7, 2022 12:32 AM

Megs looks great.

by Anonymousreply 55December 7, 2022 12:35 AM

Richard Kind with a fresh dye job.

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by Anonymousreply 56December 7, 2022 12:35 AM

R50, did you ever hear of President Obama, who was awarded previously?

by Anonymousreply 57December 7, 2022 12:38 AM

Has Lazy Colon Campbell weighed in yet?

by Anonymousreply 58December 7, 2022 12:43 AM

She looks elegant her dress is much nicer than Kate's Kermit the frog dress. Harry's suit is well tailored.

by Anonymousreply 59December 7, 2022 12:43 AM

The dress looks like something a high school girl would make in Home Ec class. Awful.

by Anonymousreply 60December 7, 2022 12:44 AM

A gaggle of Kennedy gals

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by Anonymousreply 61December 7, 2022 12:44 AM

No, she's dilating what passes for her pussy R58.

by Anonymousreply 62December 7, 2022 12:44 AM

Ginger Kennedys

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by Anonymousreply 63December 7, 2022 12:46 AM

R21 Sorry 'bout that! She has the huge slit up the middle of her dress just to air out her undercarriage!

by Anonymousreply 64December 7, 2022 12:46 AM
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by Anonymousreply 65December 7, 2022 12:48 AM

Whore!

by Anonymousreply 66December 7, 2022 12:49 AM

Gayle making friends wherever she goes!

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by Anonymousreply 67December 7, 2022 12:51 AM

Some of the Kennedys no longer have that traditional Kennedy look. It has been a few generations now so it's to be expected.

by Anonymousreply 68December 7, 2022 12:52 AM

Meghan isn't really dressed liked a guest of honor. More like an attendee.

by Anonymousreply 69December 7, 2022 12:54 AM

Pigs the both of them with their piggy little eyes.

by Anonymousreply 70December 7, 2022 12:55 AM

Who are these people?

by Anonymousreply 71December 7, 2022 12:55 AM

People who can't win elections, book movies or TV shows, and a fat old man who killed someone.

by Anonymousreply 72December 7, 2022 12:58 AM

Alec explaining to the crowd how the bullet he fired had a different trajectory from the bullet that killed Bobby.

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by Anonymousreply 73December 7, 2022 12:59 AM

Her dress is divine, you jealous queens.

by Anonymousreply 74December 7, 2022 12:59 AM

r63 Is he the Kennedy who lost an election in recent years despite all the partys big guns and media allies backing him?

by Anonymousreply 75December 7, 2022 1:02 AM

R74 agreed. She looks terrific and not overdone.

by Anonymousreply 76December 7, 2022 1:04 AM

R74 what does it cost?

by Anonymousreply 77December 7, 2022 1:06 AM

Custom Louis Vuitton isn't cheap.

by Anonymousreply 78December 7, 2022 1:11 AM

It does take a lot of money to look at cheap as Meghan!

by Anonymousreply 79December 7, 2022 1:13 AM

Is Andy Cohen there?

by Anonymousreply 80December 7, 2022 1:15 AM

My God she's done the lampshade imitation again!

Louis Vuitton bespoke and Kate looked better in a $100 rental.

Two private jets in one week.

Travelyst, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 81December 7, 2022 1:16 AM

Lipstick. Pig.

by Anonymousreply 82December 7, 2022 1:19 AM

The dress doesn’t look good on her. Unfortunate, as it’s a nice dress.

by Anonymousreply 83December 7, 2022 1:22 AM

I imagine so much of this drama really is about William and Kate for them. Harry’s lifelong resentment of his brother, and Meghan’s competitive envy toward a privileged type of woman. So much of what they do seems to be to present themselves as a counterpoint to William and Kate. Will is stuffy and constrained, so i’m going to be a barefoot guitar-playing California beach dude, look at me, I’m so free and happy. Kate’s so stiff and perfect, I’m going to be carefree and breezy with dangling tendrils, and an outspoken feminist. It’s immature. All disguised as a global campaign for equity. Just my own speculation.

by Anonymousreply 84December 7, 2022 1:22 AM

I believe MM has the hots for William, or, at least, his position.

by Anonymousreply 85December 7, 2022 1:25 AM

This is not a good look on her and the shoes are all wrong. Harry looks like he crawled out of a Hamburg club in the 60s.

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by Anonymousreply 86December 7, 2022 1:28 AM

“Only Meghan can make LV look like a sack”

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by Anonymousreply 87December 7, 2022 1:40 AM

I get why Markle needs the texture and detailing at her waistline. When you don't have one, you create a diversion with the horizontal band and draped pleats.

But, while Markle looks OK, she could look better.

That gown is unwieldy and unbalanced.

I don't know if the shoulders band and length, when combined with the waistline details, is throwing it off, but, it's off.

Oh well, she's back to missing the mark after looking fantastic at Q E II's funeral.

by Anonymousreply 88December 7, 2022 1:42 AM

She looks downright dumpy here.

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by Anonymousreply 89December 7, 2022 1:43 AM

It does look a little lumpy, doesn't it?

I'd feel sorry for her - she just has no luck with clothes - except she's such a rotten bitch, so it's just one more thing to look down at her for.

by Anonymousreply 90December 7, 2022 1:43 AM

So she went to a suitcase designer for her dress?

Well, I guess that makes sense given her shape.

by Anonymousreply 91December 7, 2022 1:46 AM

That white color isn't doing her any favors either.

She has the skin tone to wear bold color. I don't know why she doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 92December 7, 2022 1:47 AM

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by Anonymousreply 93December 7, 2022 1:52 AM

It looks like a maternity dress. Is she hiding a bump?

by Anonymousreply 94December 7, 2022 1:53 AM

I doubt it R94. If she had a bump, she be cradling it in every shot.

by Anonymousreply 95December 7, 2022 1:55 AM

It’s unworthy of me to think it, but I do wonder if she wore a contrasting white dress to emphasise that she is a woman of color.

by Anonymousreply 96December 7, 2022 2:02 AM

Harry’s word salad: “we live in this world now where sharing experiences and sharing stories has an enormous impact. Therefore, if you are in a position of influence and leadership….blah, blah, blah.”

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by Anonymousreply 97December 7, 2022 2:20 AM

The woman of bottled colour did a light tanning application tonight, except for the white as printer paper chicken legs

by Anonymousreply 98December 7, 2022 2:22 AM

Remember the great bump debacle of 2019?

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by Anonymousreply 99December 7, 2022 2:26 AM

The 2nd tier Kennedys giving a 2nd tier “honor” to second tier royals. Perfect!

And the fact that Hilaria Baldwin is there is the cherry on top of this ludicrous event.

by Anonymousreply 100December 7, 2022 2:33 AM

Hilaria will be able to relate to Meghan’s struggle: just two women of color, reluctantly being drawn into a spotlight they would much rather have avoided…

by Anonymousreply 101December 7, 2022 2:36 AM

Harry should never be photographed from above.

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by Anonymousreply 102December 7, 2022 2:37 AM

This is really the awards ceremony where Will Smith should have smacked somebody…

by Anonymousreply 103December 7, 2022 2:42 AM

R102 and with the goddamn arm draped over her shoulder and her clutching his hand!

Can any DL psychiatrists explain this obsessive need to clutch each other? Or is it really that they are true soulmates and the rest of us are just pea green with envy at their love?

by Anonymousreply 104December 7, 2022 2:42 AM

It’s sounds superficial of me to say, but when his hair goes, I think he’ll get a lot less sympathy for his little-boy-lost spiel. I think a lot of the goodwill he gets is because he is remembered as the little boy he was when Diana died. That will get harder to remember as he ages.

by Anonymousreply 105December 7, 2022 2:46 AM

As usual, the dress is wearing her. She seems unwilling to dress cor her ACTUAL height and body shape, it the one she wishes she has. It's why she never pulls it off. I agree too on that nose. Eek! I wouldn't want her looks or figure.

by Anonymousreply 106December 7, 2022 4:15 AM

I. Simply. Cannot. Believe. That. Dress. Is. COUTURE!!!!

She had it designed to look that way!

by Anonymousreply 107December 7, 2022 4:17 AM

That's all her r104. She's a stage five clinger. It's because of her raging insecurity.

by Anonymousreply 108December 7, 2022 4:17 AM

R106 I agree. The dress is nice but would look better on someone like Charlize Theron.

by Anonymousreply 109December 7, 2022 4:22 AM

I bet the dress is symptom of the problems she has had on all of her projects: she is unrealistic and think she knows best. Any competent stylist would have told her that the bottom half of that dress is all wrong for her.

To be fair, the neckline is pretty on her.

by Anonymousreply 110December 7, 2022 4:39 AM

Once again, Meghan's stylist clearly HATES her.

by Anonymousreply 111December 7, 2022 4:48 AM

I must have missed the memo in which the definition of "humanitarian" was officially changed to "self-serving, lying, grifting hypocrite".

by Anonymousreply 112December 7, 2022 4:59 AM

Sometimes I feel DL is an alternate universe. All the major fashion magazines were raving about Meghan's dress, which I thought was lovely.

And certainly better than Kate's "green screen" dress, despite wearing Diana's emerald choker.

by Anonymousreply 113December 7, 2022 5:01 AM

I need Harry deep inside me.

by Anonymousreply 114December 7, 2022 5:02 AM

So much for having any acting prowess: MM can't even pull off a fake smile convincingly at r6.

by Anonymousreply 115December 7, 2022 5:03 AM

Klan Granny central. I hope you can all go to sleep satisfied with your petty posts.

by Anonymousreply 116December 7, 2022 5:05 AM

Sister Samantha says Meghan had a surrogate

by Anonymousreply 117December 7, 2022 5:07 AM

The photo caption should have been 'Meghan and her accessory arrive in NYC'

by Anonymousreply 118December 7, 2022 5:08 AM

I didn’t like the dress. It looked more expensive than Kate’s green monstrosity though. Neither of them dress well for events. Kate is always matronly and Meghan’s clothes are never tailored well, even custom made pieces. One of them should hire Amal Clooney’s stylist. She nearly always knocks it out of the ballpark with evening wear.

by Anonymousreply 119December 7, 2022 5:13 AM

More unconvincing smiles at r49. No wonder her acting career peaked with Suits.

So did she get out the bronzer again or does the colour of the dress just make a natural contrast?

by Anonymousreply 120December 7, 2022 5:15 AM

If it makes the haters feel any better, the local news I watched in NYC didn’t mention this event at all. There were a bunch of other events going on that they did mention, which the newscasters were directly involved with.

by Anonymousreply 121December 7, 2022 5:19 AM

Cry Klan grannies, Cry!

by Anonymousreply 122December 7, 2022 5:19 AM

This was definitely a D list event for a D list starlet.

by Anonymousreply 123December 7, 2022 5:23 AM

Yes, previous recipients Hillary Clinton and President Obama thought it was D list but forced themselves to go.

by Anonymousreply 124December 7, 2022 5:25 AM

R124 Meghan, Kerry Kennedy wasn't so desperate back then.

by Anonymousreply 125December 7, 2022 5:26 AM

She looks lovely from the neck up. The dress isn't a disaster and looks good from some angles, but from most angles it looks like she got up from the couch and wrapped a blanket around herself.

She's truly beaming--this is what she wants. She has no awareness of how ludicrous they seem for being honored by emcee Alex Baldwin on the same roster as the leader of Ukraine.

by Anonymousreply 126December 7, 2022 5:27 AM

This event got more of the heavy hitters and press. Obama made a speech, not sure if he attended both.

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by Anonymousreply 127December 7, 2022 5:30 AM

Must everything be a competition!

by Anonymousreply 128December 7, 2022 5:36 AM

Sandy Hook event got Obama, McConaughey and Disney CEO. Now THAT is star power.

by Anonymousreply 129December 7, 2022 5:55 AM

For the first time, I wanted to see more photos and videos of Kate than of Meghan and was disappointed with how little we got. I guess I know what to expect with Meghan, it's been the same old story for the last few years but Kate is starting to show personality, like how she stared down Meghan at the walkabout, her swagger at Earthshot, her growing confidence and how she's starting to look like she's pissed and over shit. I'm becoming much more curious about her now and their trip to Boston was actually really dramatic and intriguing to see how they'd be received.

Likewise, if the Sussex docuseries is just a rehash of the last three years of internet drama and debate, I probably won't watch. I'd rather see something like The Newlyweds from them rather than just another explosive tell-all of grievances. Like, it's all a moot point now. They aren't in the royal family anymore and won't be going back. It's just to agitate drama, not accomplish anything.

Anyway, more Kate please.

by Anonymousreply 130December 7, 2022 6:21 AM

Every dead person now has an award. Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Often they bear the name of some inane phrase the dead person uttered in a speech. I assume that is the case with this one since its name is inscrutable.

Are these awards retired after a decent interval following the celebrity’s death? Or will we soon have tens of thousands of accumulated awards that will require annual recipients?

Accepting the growing list of empty and useless awards could at last provide a function for Harry and Meghan. Could we just award all future pointless awards to them?

by Anonymousreply 131December 7, 2022 6:32 AM

R113 lives in an alternate reality. As do most Meghan stans. Anyone with eyes can see it's a terrible fit. She's also way too short for it. As usual.

by Anonymousreply 132December 7, 2022 6:41 AM

If only they had The Sandy Hook Benefit Gala at The National September 11 Memorial & Museum in a special collaboration with The Whitney Biennial hosted by Gucci Mane, Nobel Prize Winner Malala Yousafzai, and National Youth Poet Laureate Amanda Gorman in a towering bespoke hairdo and turban by Romeo Hunte, my widweek need for ridiculous fame whoring would be satiated. 'Tis the Season.

by Anonymousreply 133December 7, 2022 6:45 AM

R117 how the fuck would she know? Whinge and Cringe are annoying whiny grifters, but let's stay in REALITY

by Anonymousreply 134December 7, 2022 6:50 AM

When you try so hard to be Kate, only to look like... this.

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by Anonymousreply 135December 7, 2022 7:03 AM

How often did the Queen attend events solely to receive an award? Base on my impression it was rare.

by Anonymousreply 136December 7, 2022 7:04 AM

She would always attend the Queen of the Year Awards, r136, but she'd get really pissed off whenever she lost to Beatrice of the Netherlands or Margrethe II of Denmark.

However, Sofia of Spain would never, ever win, even so she also always went; so they all would enjoy stocking up on ungenerous remarks about her from across the ballroom.

by Anonymousreply 137December 7, 2022 7:09 AM

Tee hee.

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by Anonymousreply 138December 7, 2022 7:11 AM

Last week Wills meets with the president, the Kennedys and David Beckham. This week Harry meets with… *tumbleweeds*.

by Anonymousreply 139December 7, 2022 7:24 AM

Kate's dress was $150, while sMEGs's was $10000. However, Kate has the body that can pull off wearing anything, even a trash bag. But for sMEGs's spongebob body, she may need an invisible cloak to even look ordinary. There's no contest here.

by Anonymousreply 140December 7, 2022 7:36 AM

Aside from the question of how the dress looks, the source & cost say a lot. She could have spent thousands less on a dress that was created by a Black designer in L.A. or Nigeria or some such.

by Anonymousreply 141December 7, 2022 8:17 AM

Is she pregnant?! 3 or 4 kids is the trend- two is terribly middle class.

by Anonymousreply 142December 7, 2022 11:09 AM

DAMN, Harry looks good in that photo.

by Anonymousreply 143December 7, 2022 12:18 PM

Those Kate v. Meghan pix are too easy; beneath commenting on when they're presented to compare Kate to any other woman of Earth, whoever that other woman is - Zendaya contemporarily, and, say, Charlize Theron and Angelina Jolie in their Red Carpet prime.

As r140 correctly points out

[quote] There's no contest here.

I would only add, there never was.

Markle, given her physical dimensions, isn't the human clothes hanger, the optimal dimensions for the drape of a gown, that Kate is. That's why it's no contest and not worthy of comment.

That is distinct, however, from style. That's where it is fair to compare the two. In a way Markle has an advantage, IF she had the wit, daring and edgy style to exercise it. Kate on the other hand, is constrained. she has to be, as the future Queen.

Kate also, wisely, knows an advantage to conservative- it only makes her rare dazzling choices dazzle even more- the over-the-top gold gown she wore to the premiere of Top gun: Maverick is iconic, and deserves to be.

At r138, the problem with that green gown isn't the color, it's that there is too much happening. That shoulder cape? in the words of Edna Mode, "No capes!", and the skirt vent is cut to an awkward length. I give Markle a pass on her posture and ass, we all have had an unflattering pic taken.

I agree with others who say if Markle had a stylist who knew how to maximize her assets and minimize her figure flaws, and put her clothes that made an edgy yet appropriate statement, she wouldn't listen and do it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 144December 7, 2022 12:44 PM

Kerry Kennedy has surprising pretty daughters, even though their father is fuggo Andrew Cuomo.

by Anonymousreply 145December 7, 2022 3:18 PM

(Meghan's dress can easily be converted to a straitjacket if necessary.)

by Anonymousreply 146December 7, 2022 3:51 PM

R143 not at the ones from the back. Big old bald spot

by Anonymousreply 147December 7, 2022 3:52 PM

...bakl spot with disgusting pube-like sprouts. Yuck

by Anonymousreply 148December 7, 2022 3:55 PM

Wasn't Harry constanly mocking William because of his hair loss?

The joke's on Harry now.

by Anonymousreply 149December 7, 2022 4:21 PM

They've done nothing for anybody but themselves. That picture is so appropriate, though: Dumb ginger trying keep up with ambitious, no-nonsense mommy.

by Anonymousreply 150December 7, 2022 4:35 PM

Honestly, I think the big takeaway from the gala is Meghan has been dieting and hitting the gym. She’s back to her Suits fighting weight. Especially shows in her face.

by Anonymousreply 151December 7, 2022 4:37 PM

R151 when you lose weight and you're over 40, your face doesn't miraculously go back to wrinkle-free. Fillers and botox. I'm surprised she hasn't forced Harry to get hair implants. Then again, I'm surprised she hasn't forced Harry to get veneers over his snaggly teeth.

by Anonymousreply 152December 7, 2022 4:44 PM

Lol, this isn't the Harry show.

by Anonymousreply 153December 7, 2022 4:50 PM

This woman has never hit the gym in her entire life, she was either starving herself or popping diet pills. She has got no muscle tone at all.

by Anonymousreply 154December 7, 2022 4:51 PM

I think you're confusing her with Kate.

by Anonymousreply 155December 7, 2022 4:55 PM

Ok Meghan @ R155. Now pop a few Adderall for losing more weight, it might even help with your back fat.

by Anonymousreply 156December 7, 2022 4:56 PM

I don't know why the Markle fans think there's some competition between 6th on the Call Sheet and the future Queen, but whatever. Have you seen the future Queen play football/soccer? She's athletic as hell. I've also seen films of her playing tennis and rowing. She's annoyingly fit for a 40 year old.

by Anonymousreply 157December 7, 2022 4:58 PM

I assume La Markle's weight loss is via Ozempic.

by Anonymousreply 158December 7, 2022 5:04 PM

Tbf, Kate is blessed with good genes, she was always toned. She looked even better when she had a few pounds more, but back then she was toned nevertheless. Meghan, on the other hand, is a Markle - and it shows whenever she's not popping those pills and doing the starving.

by Anonymousreply 159December 7, 2022 5:05 PM

I've always fantasized that if I ever made it to the big time (or at least invited to something fancy in my little boring world) I would ask you bitches to dress me. I'm 5 8 but built exactly like Meghan.

by Anonymousreply 160December 7, 2022 5:22 PM

I'm what some of the more easily deluded might call a Meghan H8r, and I think she looked pretty great at this event. To the poster who said Harry looked like he crawled out of a Hamburg club in the 1960s, I actually really like that look, and he looked good, too. (From the aerial view, he's a disaster, poor schlub.)

by Anonymousreply 161December 7, 2022 6:04 PM

R143, your optometrist called. You’re overdue for a check-up.

by Anonymousreply 162December 7, 2022 6:11 PM

[quote]She’s back to her Suits fighting weight.

Not quite there yet. She’s probably getting ready to stalk and trap husband #3.

by Anonymousreply 163December 7, 2022 6:16 PM

R160, then I’m sure you have a nice figure:) She’s hated here, so people call her fat. She is absolutely not fat and never was. Only thing I notice is that she has the thinnest legs I’ve ever seen. I think she’s a pretty woman and R152, she’s never had wrinkles. Dressy clothes on her are hit or miss.

by Anonymousreply 164December 7, 2022 6:24 PM

This full length shot does not make the dress look very elegant.

It hangs on her like a sack and the sleeves are too long.

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by Anonymousreply 165December 7, 2022 6:29 PM

Of course, post the one bad picture.

by Anonymousreply 166December 7, 2022 6:35 PM

(164) Thank you but NO, I have a horrible figure and it's very hard to dress my shape. I'm a linebacker on the top and wheelchair legs on the bottom. But thank you :)

by Anonymousreply 167December 7, 2022 6:36 PM

R113, smoke some more. Here's Vogue. Vogue. The Vatican of fashion magazines. Find me one "rave." It's a polite description. (It's also running way down the homepage.)

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by Anonymousreply 168December 7, 2022 6:36 PM

And just for comparison, R113:

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by Anonymousreply 169December 7, 2022 6:37 PM

"Is that a Bond girl or Kate Middleton we see? It was hard to tell at tonight’s world premiere of No Time to Die in London—the latest installment in the James Bond franchise, starring Daniel Craig. With husband Prince William, as well as the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall by her side, the Duchess of Cambridge wore one of her most glamorous gowns to date, complete with a dramatic cape and tons of shimmering gold sequins. She could have stepped out of Goldfinger. "

That, R113, is a rave. "Meghan Markle’s White Louis Vuitton Gown Speaks to Her Style Strengths" is an observation.

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by Anonymousreply 170December 7, 2022 6:40 PM

A DM columnist has a good take on the dinner (I guess they flew her over and bought her a cheap seat). It's worth the read. Shockingly, MM dined out on her suicide story, couched in her usual waffle:

'When you've been through anything that's challenging, and everyone — especially in the past few years with lockdown and Covid, that spike in numbers of people having an experience they might not be voicing — we all need to, when we can, if we feel brave enough, to just speak honestly about your own experience,' she says. She talks of being ashamed, but not in the way one might hope. 'Look, I was really ashamed to say it at the time and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry especially, because I know how much loss he has suffered, but I knew that if I didn't say it, then I would do it. I just didn't want to be alive anymore.'

by Anonymousreply 171December 7, 2022 6:40 PM

I wish she wasn't alive anymore either. What a liar. Narcissists never commit suicide. They threaten to commit suicide to get attention.

Kerry Kennedy looks like a rabid bunny.

by Anonymousreply 172December 7, 2022 6:43 PM

R168, you can read Elle and Harper's Bazaar on your own. There was nothing negative in the least in what you posted.

by Anonymousreply 173December 7, 2022 6:54 PM

Harry is so lame, I guess as a Prince everybody laughed at his jokes so he thinks he is actually clever.

by Anonymousreply 174December 7, 2022 7:06 PM

Woman's Wear Daily

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by Anonymousreply 175December 7, 2022 7:10 PM

This observation from Moir, who is vile, but not stupid:

"As the Sussexes leave the stage, applause thunders around the ballroom, with some attendees even getting to their feet. You can tell that this — this! — was what Meghan thought being royal would be like."

by Anonymousreply 176December 7, 2022 7:16 PM

British Vogue

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by Anonymousreply 177December 7, 2022 7:20 PM

Three years ago, when she was still a member of the Royal Family.

by Anonymousreply 178December 7, 2022 7:21 PM

Actually, if you bothered to read the article it says she'd already stepped away from the royal family. Good try though.

by Anonymousreply 179December 7, 2022 7:27 PM

She was fat, r164. But I give her a pass, as it was baby weight.

by Anonymousreply 180December 7, 2022 7:40 PM

I think she wanted that off-shoulder dress because Kate was wearing a similar dress. Meghan Is pathologically jealous and envious of Kate.

by Anonymousreply 181December 7, 2022 7:49 PM

I'm not even bothered. Good for them. May they get all that their hearts desire so that they can find their happiness and finally leave Harry's family alone.

More than that, I wish the press would back off and just quit reporting on these two.

by Anonymousreply 182December 7, 2022 8:16 PM

No matter how much success a malignant narcissist has in their life they will NEVER stop seeking revenge against anyone they perceive wronged them no matter how minor or long ago it was.

tRump will be calling Rosie O'Donnell fat and ugly until the end of time despite winning the presidency. If she dies first, he will drive 100 miles out of his way to go piss on her grave.

by Anonymousreply 183December 7, 2022 8:25 PM

R176 exactamundo. I would love to have read Meghan’s thoughts the moment she realized she had an actual shot at bagging Prince Harry: “Omg omg omg I could be a fucking PRINCESS, like fucking DIANA, omg omg. Ok….steady…..breathe…..” I mean, it would have been understandable.

by Anonymousreply 184December 7, 2022 8:35 PM

Yes, if you were understood to be one of those damaged schemers who actually uses the lives of other people to any extent, so long as it advances your own. I'm not naive, we all use other people over the years in a thousand different ways and a handful of misfits who get to the top of something use people in epic ways. I don't confuse it with acceptable (and am not saying R184 does either.) But she's not admirable. She's a wretch of a person. Let's not forget that.

by Anonymousreply 185December 7, 2022 8:40 PM

I was at an office holiday event last night and when the topic of Harry and Meghan came up, almost everyone groaned. One woman said, "my son might not be a Prince is not relatable. It's beyond a first world problem." And I agree. At least the regular royals just show up, keep their mouths shut, wave, cut the ribbon and go home. But H&M will never shut up. As long as the media (particularly the US media) thrives on celebrity victim hood stories, they will still be in the spotlight.

Also, anyone whose been in a LTR relationship knows that the constant PDA by H&M are total BS. After a while the desire to need constant physical contact (e.g. hand holding or always smiling) wanes not due to less love, but because the love matures. William and Catherine, for example, never hold hands but we do see them occasionally touching each other's backs which to me is a sign of a much more mature, deep love. Couples who feel they always have to display their love, usually aren't that in love...or at least not in a healthy relationship.

by Anonymousreply 186December 7, 2022 9:28 PM

Harry allegedly hit a reported with his umbrella last night and his security personnel told him to calm down...here is the video.

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by Anonymousreply 187December 7, 2022 9:34 PM

That’s inexcusable R187 but not surprising. Harry was a petulant little twat when younger. Now he’s a grown ass passive aggressive piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 188December 7, 2022 9:55 PM

R186, I saw a clip of the two of them from behind meeting people. Harry stepped forward to shake someone's hand. Meghan shot her arm to place her hand on the small of his back. I thought, she uses her hand as his leash. It was fucked up and very creepy.

by Anonymousreply 189December 7, 2022 10:17 PM

No way is she fat, but she is short waisted and doesn't have that long slender profile that Kate does. But most people would look chunky standing next to Kate. I will say this: Haz looks better than he has in awhile. He just looked sort of bloated & disheveled, but he cleaned up well, looks fit and even (somewhat) smiled.

by Anonymousreply 190December 7, 2022 10:21 PM

Ripple of Hope sounds like ice cream or a potato chip.

Stupid.

by Anonymousreply 191December 7, 2022 10:24 PM

In the second video at R187, Harry never covers her with the umbrella and she treats him like a chauffeur who helped her out of the car, then she bolts.

by Anonymousreply 192December 7, 2022 10:48 PM

R186 correct! I'm married and I love my spouse. We occasionally hold hands or give each other a peck in public as do most of my friends who are in LTR. But it's out of true affection.

The non-stop clutching between these two is really disturbing. Initially, I thought it was an act--what Meghan wants to project to the world: true soulmates so incredibly in love that no one can tear them apart. And, also, see how everyone else's love pales in comparison to ours?

But, now, I'm not so sure. Someone up thread says she uses PDA like a leash--never letting him forget for one goddamned minute who he should be focused on and who is the only person who matters.

It probably a combination of pretense and control, but whatever the reason, it's quite sick.

by Anonymousreply 193December 7, 2022 11:11 PM

According to this (hilarious) article, they didn't even bother to show up for the cocktail party, which cost idiot partygoers an extra fee--on top of the ludicrous cost of dinner admission.

The two continue to give people what they pay for! Spotify. Netflix. Their stupid charity. Bullshit award ceremonies. No one collects a penny except for H/M.

by Anonymousreply 194December 7, 2022 11:19 PM

^oops....here's the article

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by Anonymousreply 195December 7, 2022 11:20 PM

I doubt Harry even knows who Robert Kennedy was. Or what he stood for. And when he realized he didn't, he didn't ask anybody to educate him. He's really pretty dumb.

by Anonymousreply 196December 8, 2022 12:00 AM

The show starts streaming at midnight in CA. Can't wait!

by Anonymousreply 197December 8, 2022 12:12 AM

There video on Twitter @MeghansMole of a short, female security guard telling Harry to "stop, relax" as he pushes his umbrella towards the photogs.

At first I wasn't sure, but you can see her reach her hand up into the umbrella to stop him and pull it back as he closes the umbrella on her. As they enter the hall she snaps at him and he seems to turn back to her and apologize.

It's a strange, aggressive move and makes me wonder if Meghan doesn't cling to him to keep him in line. Maybe he's always been psycho and the BRF aren't afraid she'll leak about them, but what she'll say about him.

by Anonymousreply 198December 8, 2022 12:18 AM

Kerry looked silly in her minidress. Furthermore, I don't think the world realizes how infinitesimal of a fuck Americans - especially younger ones – give about the Kennedys nowadays. Nobody knows who the members even are anymore. I doubt many young people have much of a clue who Bobby and even Jack were. That ALL went away with Jr.

by Anonymousreply 199December 8, 2022 12:22 AM

Meghan called the paps so they'd get their picture up on TMZ and then Harry attacks one of Meghan's paps?? Huh?

by Anonymousreply 200December 8, 2022 12:25 AM

I don't think in this particular case Meghan had to call the paps, r200

by Anonymousreply 201December 8, 2022 12:27 AM

I still can’t get over his stupidity and betrayal. Harry I'm your brother, Wills, and I was stepped over!

William That's the way Pop and Grand mummy wanted it.

Harry It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

by Anonymousreply 202December 8, 2022 12:31 AM

Amateur.

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by Anonymousreply 203December 8, 2022 12:44 AM

^ Agree! Harry needs to get a tan.

by Anonymousreply 204December 8, 2022 12:48 AM

The problem with Meghan's physique is that prior having babies, she had a semblance of a waist, even if it was short. But after 2 kids, her rib cage and hips have expanded and has given her a straight thick waist.

She needs to consult some drag queens for Creative Body Modification with Fabrics course.

by Anonymousreply 205December 8, 2022 2:40 AM

R189 - yup she does literally use her hand as a leash. Check out this video of them, especially after the 3-minute mark

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by Anonymousreply 206December 8, 2022 3:51 AM

R199, that's why the Kennedy Center Honors are so meaningless.

by Anonymousreply 207December 8, 2022 3:54 AM

I've seen photos from her Suits days where she clearly had no waist. Between photoshopping and the wardrobe department, she was made to appear to have a waist. Didn't that awful woman who helped her bully Charlotte once dress her, before she got ghosted too? She must laugh her arse off at Markle's wardrobe. Markle in that red Carolina Herrera dress was a gift from the comedy gods. On top of all the issues with the dress, the shoes didn't even match.

by Anonymousreply 208December 8, 2022 4:20 AM

R207 What are you, five? The Kennedy Center honors have been given out for decades, and their "prestige" has nothing to do with the family members today.

by Anonymousreply 209December 8, 2022 4:32 AM

R209, the point is, the Kennedys are hardly forgotten.

Now, please fuck yourself

by Anonymousreply 210December 8, 2022 4:35 AM

R229 There are no exciting Kennedy right now and you know it.

by Anonymousreply 211December 8, 2022 4:39 AM

The Kennedys aren’t forgotten, but they are mostly irrelevant these days. Their continued legacy died with John Jr. He was the only one anyone cared about of the next generation. Caroline tried to get appointed to a senate seat a few years back and it was a disaster.

by Anonymousreply 212December 8, 2022 4:43 AM

How much do you think harry drinks or smokes pot?

by Anonymousreply 213December 8, 2022 4:45 AM

I found some behind-the-scenes footage of Meg savoring her current moment of triumph, starting at 1:21.

(Though I doubt there are any theater queens on this thread.)

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by Anonymousreply 214December 8, 2022 4:48 AM

Remember r177, they had to discount that issue to £2 before it even went on sale, so her stans could afford it. It's comical how easily you buy her fakery.

by Anonymousreply 215December 8, 2022 5:12 AM

R212 It was obvious the Kennedys were finished even in Massachusetts when Joe Kennedy III left his Congress seat to primary Markey for Senate and lost massively.

by Anonymousreply 216December 8, 2022 6:05 AM

R212 And the Windsor's "legacy" died with me and you know it.

by Anonymousreply 217December 8, 2022 6:12 AM

Ok Harry @ 217. Now get yourself some pussywhipping again.

by Anonymousreply 218December 8, 2022 9:31 AM

R207 The Kennedy Centre awards are supposed to national awards from a government institution. That the performing arts complex is named Kennedy is secondary.

They are a US equivalent of the Ordre national de la Légion d'honneuror or perhaps the lesser Ordre des Arts et des Lettres

by Anonymousreply 219December 8, 2022 9:39 AM

The KC Honors may be lame & look like an elder-fest, but it's one of the few attempts that I can think of to have some national recognition of the arts. Yes, there are vibrant art communities all over the country, but nothing that recognizes people on a national level. Generally speaking, I think it's well done & if anything, the KC is looking pretty dated & could use a bit of a lift. But if you've ever been in DC & viewed the Kennedy Center with their pride colors out, it's really a thing of beauty. Maybe not Paris, but still beautiful.

This particular offshoot of the clan, however, has always been more about celebrity culture (and dodging their latest legal scrapes)

by Anonymousreply 220December 8, 2022 9:45 AM

Kerry and Meghan needed their hemlines to come to an equilibrium.

by Anonymousreply 221December 8, 2022 10:40 AM

The article is ridiculously breathless, but Meghan can only dream of looking this regal. (Scroll down for full length view)

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by Anonymousreply 222December 8, 2022 11:40 AM

The Kennedys were nothing but a fantasy cooked up by an ambitious patriarch, that survived on the myth of a murder. They're nothing. Graceless but moneyed.

by Anonymousreply 223December 8, 2022 11:52 AM

That is a stupefyingly superficial summation, R223.

To take just one example, their closest advisers, including Bob McNamara, really thought the Cuban Missile Crisis deadline was to be the end of the world. Unbeknown to anyone but Jack, Bobby was in last-minute negotiations with the Russians that turned it around. The Civil Rights Bill might have got through under LBJ, but it was Kennedy's legislation. Both Kennedy brothers were amazing in that they learned from their mistakes, and Bobby's grief at his brother's murder was turned not into hatred but into a gateway to compassion. It was also arguably the smartest West Wing ever.

It sounds like a lot of people on here haven't even read the "Tiny Ripple of Hope" speech, which is one of the most inspiring there is.

And I'm not even American.

by Anonymousreply 224December 8, 2022 12:07 PM

The columnist Moir said it best when she said of Harry and Meghan: treachery masquerading as philanthropy. I would add philanthropy in word only.

by Anonymousreply 225December 8, 2022 12:25 PM

Would the Cuban Missile Crisis have occurred if Kennedy weren't president?

Proposing good legislation doesn't really mean much. Getting it passed was the miracle test LBJ accomplished. Many president promised plans for universal health insurance coverage. Obama got it accomplished.

Kennedy wasn't a bad president but his reputation is based on youth, glamor, and tragedy.

by Anonymousreply 226December 8, 2022 12:32 PM

[quote]The Kennedys were nothing but a fantasy cooked up by an ambitious patriarch, that survived on the myth of a murder. They're nothing. Graceless but moneyed.

I don't think it was fantasy but I do think the Kennedy mystique is a result of factors & a world that no longer exists, but I do think RFK was a transformative figure that had he lived maybe would've ended the war, Watergate certainly never would've occurred - a whole list of things.

It's easy to forget because between the anti-vaxxer nonsense, dramas, drug overdoses, etc., the RFK clan have used their father's martyrdom to their own ends, most of them bad. You've got to give Caroline credit - she's spent her life burnishing JFK's image, not shitting all over it like RFK Jr.

by Anonymousreply 227December 8, 2022 12:48 PM

R224, I can only wish the stupefaction made you less verbose, as I am sure most people in your actual life would agree. The point is they've coasted on murder and myth ever since.

They weren't the first smart administration, nor will they be the last. One would hope they would have been a smart administration, given, you know, the country they were supposed to be running. Lincoln did pretty good too, I gather, but I'm not sure he ever made People.

by Anonymousreply 228December 8, 2022 1:04 PM

Bobby was a complicated guy.

by Anonymousreply 229December 8, 2022 1:06 PM

I didn't say they were the first smart administration, I said they were arguably the smartEST. The talent they had advising them, between Secretaries and advisers, was of an incredibly high standard.

The Cuban Missile Crisis would have happened whoever was President. The Bay of Pigs happened shortly after Kennedy entered the job and was presented to him as a fait accompli by the Joint Chiefs. It would have been a rare person to flatly refuse his military experts while he was still new. His sense of reluctance about it resulted in the lack of air cover and the disaster, but it was likely to fail anyway and unlike most Presidents he learned a thorough lesson from it. He defied the advice of the Joint Chiefs on the Missile Crisis. He even had to persuade Bobby round to his side on that one but he was determined to make the right decision.

Kennedy didn't just propose the Civil Rights legislation, he had it drafted and ready to go, and then he died. It would indeed have been a miracle if he could have got it through while dead. OTOH, you can't argue that LBJ did what JFK could not have done, because he didn't get the chance to try.

RFK Jr was very damaged by his father's death. RFK knew he was likely to be assassinated if he ran for President in 68 and he took a long time to make up his mind. Junior encouraged him to run, and I think was also with him in California. Not surprising a young teen couldn't recover from that.

by Anonymousreply 230December 8, 2022 1:26 PM

JFK was not a particularly good Representative or Senator. (His father had to get one of the political leaders to set up a phony committee for JFK to head.)

But he was young, good looking and well spoken. And there was money to finance his Presidential campaign.

Old Joe Kennedy made a deal with the Mob using Frank SInatra as conduit to see that JFK miraculously won the strongly protestant West Virginia primary. Don't believe it? Sinatra's daughter has confirmed this.

Not hard to believe since the old man had plenty of contacts with the mob from his rum running days.

But Old Joe's stroke put him out of action and whatever influence he might have exerted to pave the way was lost.

[quote] The Cuban Missile Crisis would have happened whoever was President.

Wrong.

Kennedy bungled the Vienna Summit with Nikita Khrushchev and NK pegged him as a weakling.

That's why he put the missiles in Cuba.

Want to thank someone for not having nukes used with the Missile Crisis, thank Nikita Khrushchev.

As for JFK's team - yes smart guys. Many of whom, including McNamara, stayed on with LBJ. One of LBJ's big mistakes. Because they were supposed to be so smart, LBJ followed their advice (again McNamara, for example) about Vietnam. And most people know how the advice from those "smart" men worked out.

See the excellent "Path to War" from 2002 with a splendid cast, using extensive historical research which is an excellent depiction of the ghastly steps suggested and followed dealing with Vietnam.

JFK was not a very good President.

His death was awful. Terrible for his wife, children, family and the nation. But it served to burnish his memory way beyond what it should have been.

BTW, I remember reading that both Eisenhower and Truman thought the JFK funeral was way, way over the top and inappropriate.

And if you really want to see an abuse of power, read up on the story of Ted and his team and they way they "handled" the Chappaquiddick Incident.

I speak as someone who grew up believing the whole myth. But I have put away childish things.

And I hate being lied to.

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by Anonymousreply 231December 8, 2022 3:23 PM

Imagine if JFK had lived out his presidency and won re-election - #metoo would have eaten his memory alive, without the sacredness of myth to protect him.

by Anonymousreply 232December 8, 2022 3:38 PM

Actually r179, if you'd bothered to comprehend what you were reading you'd have read that the British Vogue issue Markle was involved in was the September 2019 issue, which comes out in August, and she stepped back from royal duties several months after that.

Edward Enninful OBE, the editor of British Vogue, has a good relationship with Charles and there's no way Enninful would want to ruin his reputation with the royal family.

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by Anonymousreply 233December 8, 2022 3:52 PM

R179, nice try. She edited the magazine when she was a member of the royal family. It hit the stands in September 2019, she ran away to shine her light on the world in 2020. Suck it, stupid.

by Anonymousreply 234December 8, 2022 3:56 PM

[quote]See the excellent "Path to War" from 2002 with a splendid cast, using extensive historical research which is an excellent depiction of the ghastly steps suggested and followed dealing with Vietnam.

This really was a good movie; Michael Gambon as LBJ was very good and even though he was a blustering fool, McNamara convinced him that the war was winnable - until it wasn't - and then turned on him.

by Anonymousreply 235December 8, 2022 4:01 PM

How did this thread go from Harry and Meagan to JFK & RFK? The Kennedys may have been the first to try to "manage news" but the Windsors are the master media manipulators as all the rabid fraus on this thread prove.

by Anonymousreply 236December 8, 2022 5:52 PM

The BRF and the Murican RF (Trumps) have lot in common.

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by Anonymousreply 237December 8, 2022 5:53 PM

Charles III does not deserve Meghan the Cunt.

For fuck's sake, even Richard III didn't deserve Meghan the Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 238December 8, 2022 6:16 PM

The Duchess may not be interested in looking regal. I think her real dream is to be an A-List beautiful person Entertainment celebrity. A VIP with some "humanitarian" cred. The issue is neither of them have the experience, skills, patience, and hard work to be humanitarians. Their foundation is an empty shell. And the Duchess has no great acting skills.

Don't expect anything new and good from this couple. Neither in entertainment or humanitarian and human rights work. Nor as business folks.

Face facts. They are hasbeens already. They shot their load. There are no new tricks coming. IF they are smart, they will downsize their lifestyle and build back a bit of good will.

by Anonymousreply 239December 8, 2022 6:17 PM

The Trumps are America's royal family?

by Anonymousreply 240December 8, 2022 11:32 PM

Meghan's tragedy is that she never got higher in Hollywood than 6th on the Call Sheet on a Canadian cable soap. And then she married a Prince and thought she would be the Leading Lady only to discover she'd married the 6th in line to the throne.

by Anonymousreply 241December 8, 2022 11:53 PM

But we're #1!

by Anonymousreply 242December 9, 2022 1:23 AM

But you've described the Bidens r237. You forgot the drugs and pedophilia tho.

by Anonymousreply 243December 9, 2022 4:16 AM

From that hilarious opinion piece in the DM it notes that the organization giving the award is connected to someone connected to the Netflix documentary. So this award was just a bought and paid for PR prop for the show.

Can these two get any lower or more whorish? They should win Poseurs of the Year, scratch that, Decade Award.

by Anonymousreply 244December 9, 2022 7:23 AM

I think on some level Meghan always knew that though she has some measure of charisma, she has and never will have the regalness that Kate and William have quite natural. Poor pathetic Harry has neither.

by Anonymousreply 245December 9, 2022 4:02 PM

Class is something you can't "fake it til you make it". Which is her game.

by Anonymousreply 246December 10, 2022 12:10 AM

Harry barely has a brain. Lucky he wasn't born before William, although even in that position he'd find something to complain about.

by Anonymousreply 247December 10, 2022 12:13 AM

Whatever goodwill Harry had for losing his mother at such a young age, is gone (at least for a lot of people)

He really shit all over his legacy

by Anonymousreply 248December 10, 2022 1:14 AM

I like Kate, but regal doesn't come to mind.

by Anonymousreply 249December 10, 2022 1:52 AM

R247, he definitely would. He'd be traumatized by his responsibilities and the expectations placed upon him, feel trapped (" I never had a choice to be king!"), blah blah blah, and then probably abdicate or Megxit in the end anyway.

by Anonymousreply 250December 10, 2022 3:16 PM

R250, Harry isn't even fit for purpose to be an honorable, mature man let alone a king.

by Anonymousreply 251December 10, 2022 3:55 PM

Harry is a worthy heir to his godfather Prince Andrew.

by Anonymousreply 252December 10, 2022 5:37 PM

R249 is a nice example of how to say "I have no class" without saying it out loud.

by Anonymousreply 253December 11, 2022 5:57 AM

Anyone with class never uses the word.

by Anonymousreply 254December 11, 2022 6:17 AM

Meghan described her mother as "classy" in the documentary. 😬

by Anonymousreply 255December 11, 2022 7:04 AM

And? You proved my point

by Anonymousreply 256December 11, 2022 7:29 AM

Considering Harry's sub 80 IQ, he's done very well.

by Anonymousreply 257December 11, 2022 3:19 PM

That makes sense R252 considering Andrew could possibly have been yacht girl Meghan’s first Royal.

by Anonymousreply 258December 11, 2022 3:24 PM

R32 her nose is the very least of what is wrong with her: flying private jets while guilt-tripping commoners about their carbon footprint is what I take issue with. But it works! The same 100 people are celebrating themselves, a perfect circle jerk.

by Anonymousreply 259December 11, 2022 5:12 PM

Except she's at the circle jerk, just not in the circle. She's on the edge, trying to work her way... to a fucking circle jerk. How sadly hungry is that?

by Anonymousreply 260December 11, 2022 5:19 PM

You know that LV dress really was beautiful, but she looked like a kid playing dressup in her Mum's clothes. She's too short for that kind of sheath with a broad off the shoulder look.

With that kind of dress, you really need LENGTH, which she hasn't got.

The distance between who Meghan is and who she thinks she is is nowhere more apparent than in her choices in dress. This gown is a classic illustration of that distance.

by Anonymousreply 261December 11, 2022 9:43 PM

She seems to be totally unaware of what she looks like. Normally a celeb would have a stylist who can explain what does and doesn't work, so I assume she has one and she ignores what they tell her. The red, back-fat dress was the worst.

by Anonymousreply 262December 11, 2022 11:23 PM

She takes pride in being her own stylist. Apparently she feels it's the only thing she can control. The people at Carolina Herrera should never have let her have that red dress.

The fact that people can comment about the Harkles on DM articles and content is made about them on social media really gets under their skin. Harry mentioned those things in his early letter to the press, and also in one of his lawsuits. His comment about free speech in the US shows they really can't handle not having control 9f their "narrative ".

by Anonymousreply 263December 11, 2022 11:28 PM

One of the reviews of their reality show pointed out their whole problem. They want a shitload of publicity, be constantly in the news but they want to prevent anybody from saying anything unflattering about them. They're basically Trumps.

by Anonymousreply 264December 12, 2022 12:14 AM
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