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I'm sick of doing things the honest way. Life is too hard and I'm not getting anywhere. It's time for a scam.

Anyone else feel this way? Life is too hard; I don't care if I sound like a whiney moaner for claiming that. Everything I need and want is out of reach. Owning a home, dental treatment, the freedom to pursue a career that doesn't make me suicidal and bored. Everything is too expensive. Unless you become a movie star or a doctor (or any other high-profile career), then you're likely to spend the rest of your life just paying rent and stressing about bills.

I'm sick of people who are born into the right circumstances getting everything handed to them. Inheritance, nepotism connections, emotional support, good looks, good social skills. Yes, I know average people from normal families can get good jobs/scholarships too, but you need to be in a good mental state to motivate yourself to make the most of your education. If you're a teenager/young adult from a bad situation, it's easy to fall between the cracks, just trying to get by day by day. And before you know it, you're almost 40 and still working low-paying jobs--it's harder to go back to college when you're an adult with bills and nobody to support you.

I've nothing against "welfare queens" or "losers on welfare" because they're usually low on self-esteem, come from unsupportive families, didn't make the most of their education, and are trapped in a poverty cycle. Yes, they can get minimum wage jobs, but they're still stuck with debts and poverty, and know they'll still be poor with a job. (Yes, I know poor people can get educated and train for a career, but that's easier said than done--especially once you're stuck in a rut.)

Anyway, I have a job and I hate it. I can't cope doing this for the rest of my life. I'm mid 30s and at this point, I'd rather just become a scam artist, like selling counterfeit goods or organizing a pyramid scheme. I wouldn't steal anybody's life savings or anything that would ruin lives, but I would do something like tricking thousands of people into a giving me 10 dollars a month or something like that.

Bad people are always getting what they want. I don't see the point in being good and honest anymore. I feel like Tony Montana from Scarface when he first came to America--fed up of crappy jobs, and wanting to make money through criminal activities because he was getting no respect as a dishwasher. I don't care if it's wrong. There's no point being the good guy.

by Anonymousreply 78December 18, 2022 10:26 PM

about time....

by Anonymousreply 1December 6, 2022 2:24 PM

No!!

by Anonymousreply 2December 6, 2022 2:25 PM

What's your job?

by Anonymousreply 3December 6, 2022 2:25 PM

Incel alert!

by Anonymousreply 4December 6, 2022 2:30 PM

Didn't read your post OP, but do you have any particular scam in mind?

by Anonymousreply 5December 6, 2022 2:31 PM

I understand your thoughts, OP. For me, I am just disgusted at the low salaries offered for positions that are pretty much the same salaries offered 20 or even 25 years ago (except certain IT positions.)

by Anonymousreply 6December 6, 2022 2:33 PM

Easy now buttercup, you don't want to end up like Todd Chrisley.

by Anonymousreply 7December 6, 2022 2:33 PM

Successful criminals who came from nothing often work pretty hard at it. That puts it as far out of reach as more traditional accomplishments for many personality types.

by Anonymousreply 8December 6, 2022 2:34 PM

OP, while good dental care isn't out of reach here (I assume you're in America), the rest very much is: Owning an apartment or house in a nice-enough city has become an impossible dream. Food is insanely expensive now, going out for dinner every now and then is becoming an extreme luxury. It could all be so much worse, of course, and I try to remember that at least 1/3 of the population would be green with envy with my apartment, clean water, heating, etc.

But fuck, it really does feel at times like I hit a wall.

by Anonymousreply 9December 6, 2022 2:34 PM

R6 again. I live in a fairly large and expensive metro area and I see job postings asking for people with Master's Degrees that pay 40K to 55K. It's just gross. How can a person ever hope to make their way ahead with those salaries. Yes, IT pays more but not everyone is cut out for that.

by Anonymousreply 10December 6, 2022 2:36 PM

I totally get this OP. Look at someone like Elon Musk - a rich father that owned an emerald harvesting business. His sociopath son buys businesses and then proceeds to openly scam the stock market, torture monkeys and produce exploding cars.

Look at Theranos, WeWork, Juicero, bitcoin scams. People are millionaires/billionaires from total scams. Amazon pays no tax. Deregulation is the norm and is literally killing the planet.

Your rage is understandable. We are being scammed.

by Anonymousreply 11December 6, 2022 2:38 PM

I wanna leave an instaho crying in the rain lol

by Anonymousreply 12December 6, 2022 2:51 PM

I feel the class rage and world weariness too.

I tend toward fantasies of a suicide gas pod taking it all away more than scamming anyone.

by Anonymousreply 13December 6, 2022 3:01 PM

Hey OP? Watch this movie -- it might give you a few ideas.

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by Anonymousreply 14December 6, 2022 3:27 PM

Don’t want to work your whole life for the basics. Nepotism is by far the favorite solution. Go find the wealthy people and hang with them. Yacht club in your area is a good place. Mind you they are wealthy because they are themselves the product of nepotism. What you need to do is make them more wealthy and you will get a cut. The next solution, your young, marry for money. Doctors are good and if you’re straight all you have to do is give them babies and you could be a houseboy. Outsource the babies care and bobs your uncle.

by Anonymousreply 15December 6, 2022 3:45 PM

OP = James Evans…

by Anonymousreply 16December 6, 2022 5:48 PM

OP don't go all Ballad of Gay Tony on us.

by Anonymousreply 17December 6, 2022 6:13 PM

That’s it no more mister nice guy! 🤡

by Anonymousreply 18December 6, 2022 6:14 PM

OPs boundaries have been stated.

He has none bitches.

by Anonymousreply 19December 6, 2022 6:15 PM

James Evans, think of our children! You’re the man they’ve always looked up to. And don’t forget THIS father (pointing to picture of lily white Jesus) that YOU have to honor.

Damn, damn, DAMN!

by Anonymousreply 20December 6, 2022 6:21 PM

R16 Who is James Evans?

by Anonymousreply 21December 6, 2022 6:31 PM

Lol, r21

by Anonymousreply 22December 6, 2022 6:32 PM

Melaleuca!

by Anonymousreply 23December 6, 2022 7:01 PM

I’m available to beat you with a bag of oranges.

It’s unclear how that will earn you any money though.

by Anonymousreply 24December 6, 2022 7:03 PM

I take it the Only Fans didn't work out?

by Anonymousreply 25December 6, 2022 7:14 PM

R21 Who is he? I googled his name and only found a lawyer with no wiki page.

by Anonymousreply 26December 6, 2022 7:15 PM

Find a topic so mundane and then master it to become a YouTube star. They make thousands a week!

by Anonymousreply 27December 6, 2022 7:30 PM

You seem to be adept at making whining an art, OP. Maybe something in that field?

by Anonymousreply 28December 6, 2022 7:34 PM

R27 Popular Twitch streamers make good money, too. All they do is play video games or, when they're bored of that, they'll just browse Reddit and YouTube trending videos.

Yes, people will watch and donate to others who are sitting on their arse browsing the internet. We live in crazy times.

by Anonymousreply 29December 6, 2022 7:36 PM

YouTubers and media influencer is the updated 1850s gold rush.

by Anonymousreply 30December 6, 2022 7:41 PM

[quote]I'm sick of people who are born into the right circumstances getting everything handed to them. Inheritance, nepotism connections, emotional support, good looks, good social skills.

Yet you think you will somehow come out ahead or equal to these people? By selling counterfeit merchandise? In a state of mental disarray?

The sensible thing might be to adjust your expectations. Neither a trunk loaded with fake Chanel bags nor a multilevel marketing scam is going to improve your looks, your prospects for an inheritance, your emotional support, social skills...

by Anonymousreply 31December 6, 2022 7:42 PM

only fans. whore yourself out there. you're in your 30s, you're in your prime! milk it! find a sugar daddy or mama.

by Anonymousreply 32December 6, 2022 7:43 PM

R31 I don't want to adjust my expectations. I'm not delusional. I know abundance would make living easier. Would I be happy? No, I'm clinically depressed, but that doesn't change the fact I need more money. I know it won't make me friends. However, it would make me better looking because I could fix minor flaws with cosmetic procedures.

by Anonymousreply 33December 6, 2022 8:05 PM

Two words, OP...Mary Kay

by Anonymousreply 34December 6, 2022 8:48 PM

Start a religion. OP's post is why I have some kind of admiration for Anna Delvey. A not-especially beautiful, decidedly uncharming kid swans into Manhattan and totally swindles all these smarter-than-though, richer-than-though, born-on-third-base assholes and almost got away with it. Good for her. Maybe she and OP can team up and form a religion. Since it was my idea, I want 20%.

by Anonymousreply 35December 6, 2022 8:49 PM

[quote] "Successful criminals who came from nothing often work pretty hard at it. That puts it as far out of reach as more traditional accomplishments for many personality types."

This is a very good point, R8.

by Anonymousreply 36December 6, 2022 8:50 PM

Virtue is its own reward.

by Anonymousreply 37December 6, 2022 10:56 PM

OP what political office do you plan on running for as a Republican? Surely you aren't thinking about becoming a street criminal, white color crime is the way to go.

by Anonymousreply 38December 6, 2022 11:13 PM

I have livened up my boring job by developing a thing for my boss. I did not mean for it to happen but it just did. I think she may have figured it out. I am not sure if she thinks I am joking or flirting. Do straight women state another woman is making them blush because her boss is being highly complimentary of the job being done? It was just light banter on slack.

by Anonymousreply 39December 6, 2022 11:21 PM

OP arguably working a 9-5 job is the true Scam.

by Anonymousreply 40December 7, 2022 12:13 AM

My suggestion is to find a way to monetize your talent for whining, OP. Maybe try becoming a Trump impersonator! You have the feeling of victimhood down pat and the small dick energy comes through. Grab some orange face paint, a cheap and ill-fitted suit, and soak your hair in some piss, and hit the comedy club circuit.

by Anonymousreply 41December 7, 2022 12:20 AM

The Locust Plague scam of 1874 amuses. An ad was placed in newspapers throughout the Midwest stating "Guaranteed to kill locusts."

People who sent money for the desperately needed product received a package in the mail some weeks later. In it were two table tennis type paddles.

Printed on one paddle was "Place locust here" and on the other "Hit locust."

Somebody got rich quick and it was legal.

by Anonymousreply 42December 7, 2022 12:31 AM

Yeah, legal scamming is the way to go, OP. Sit on your hands all day and contemplate the next item enough stupid Americans think they need and advertise on the Howard Stern Show.

After the constant bombardment of ads even I was beginning to wonder if we needed one.

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by Anonymousreply 43December 7, 2022 12:45 AM

R42, let us not forget the patent medicines of the era which promised to solve everying.

Damn you, Pure Food and Drug Act! We could make millions filling bottles with Lake Michigan water, booze and cherry syrup! I’d call it Old Faithful Impotence Tonic.

by Anonymousreply 44December 7, 2022 12:54 AM

Well OP, let's see how the biggest scamsters in the country, The Trump Organization, does now that they've been convicted on all counts.

by Anonymousreply 45December 7, 2022 12:55 AM

For r21 and r26….

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by Anonymousreply 46December 7, 2022 1:58 AM

There's a whole genre of rap now that's just about teaching you how to commit fraud and scam people. Maybe that could be helpful?

by Anonymousreply 47December 7, 2022 2:28 AM

I feel you, OP.

I don't know the answer, but a mass guillotining would be refreshing.

by Anonymousreply 48December 7, 2022 2:47 AM

Welfare queens?

So the KKK Thread has moved to a new establishment?

Don't forget to go after the drag queens and, you know, them kind.

by Anonymousreply 49December 7, 2022 3:12 AM

This a thousand times! Everything is rigged in favor of the rich. It's time we stop overpaying for everything and start stealing, scamming, and taking what we want.

by Anonymousreply 50December 7, 2022 3:58 AM

Two words; feet pics.

by Anonymousreply 51December 7, 2022 4:03 AM

A lot of people feel the same.

by Anonymousreply 52December 7, 2022 5:06 AM

OP I understand feeling that way and I have myself at times, but virtue is its own reward. A certain spiritual strength arises from not letting the world bring you down and letting your positivity shine out without expecting a reward for it.

Good luck to you, hon.

by Anonymousreply 53December 7, 2022 5:09 AM

OP, the world doesn’t owe you anything, stop whining. Just because some people are lucky assholes and the rest of us work with our noses to the grindstone- doesn’t mean you get to defraud people with fake shit. Suck it up buttercup, the 99.9% have to work hard to get by and we’re not rich.

by Anonymousreply 54December 7, 2022 5:16 AM

You sound pathetic, OP.

If you do manage to find a way to scam people— who may be struggling to make ends meet like you— I hope karma hits you hard.

by Anonymousreply 55December 7, 2022 5:54 AM

Gurl, you and me both. Also know that life can still be tough even if you are good looking, have connections, and family money. Looks fade, one self sabotage and burn bridges. However, things can always get worse and you don't want things to get worse to realize things weren't so awful to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 56December 7, 2022 6:12 AM

Skip-diving the bins behind Waitrose as we type!

by Anonymousreply 57December 7, 2022 9:57 AM

Don't scam people, scam corporations.

by Anonymousreply 58December 7, 2022 12:50 PM

How about crazy money or disability about a third of Americans are on some form of it. Just find a sympathetic psychiatrist and work it. You could end up with a thousand a month and meds. A good platform to troll the yacht clubs and golf courses from to find a highly paid spouse. Now you have a trajectory.

by Anonymousreply 59December 7, 2022 3:54 PM

R59 medical negligence is another one. I am looking into a legitimate claim, albeit one from 12 years ago (the longer ago the incident, the harder it is to make a case). From an online calculator I see that if successful I could potentially be awarded a few grand in compo for chronic psychological/emotional damage due to iatrogenic neglect. You can get a lot more for obvious physical harm you may have sustained from medical treatment or procedures.

by Anonymousreply 60December 7, 2022 5:10 PM

OP I vibe with you totally. I have come off the back of several years of underemployment with companies who were directly and criminally exploiting me and other employees. Now, after 18 months sabbatical out of work, I've decided I'm worth more than being treated like this, and want to find another way to make a living (and maybe even a little wealth). Idk how to do it, as I know fuck all about investment or self-employment or running scams etc., but I do not want to go back and toil at entry-level gruntwork jobs for people who will end up scamming me anyway.

by Anonymousreply 61December 7, 2022 6:51 PM

R61 invest in BORING stocks, preferably in ETFs (energy, housing, nutrition, transportation). Add money to it when you can, and don't think of cashing in for at least 10 years (your last investment should be somewhere around the 8-year mark).

Crashes can happen, there are no guarantees. But stay far from "sexy" stocks, don't touch crypto. Go with steady, undervalued (google undervalued stocks), penny stocks (buy lots) and BORING.

by Anonymousreply 62December 7, 2022 8:56 PM

Steal some toilet paper from the employee restroom and enjoy the frisson of proletarian revenge.

by Anonymousreply 63December 7, 2022 9:09 PM

This is how deeply corrupt leadership corrupts the rest of the society over which they lord. Because the normal person looks around, realises everything above them is corrupt, and then thinks "if you can't beat them, join them".

The trouble is, OP, that it's a big club, but you're not in it. What that means is that if you go corrupt, you'll be punished to the nth degree. Just because club members get away with everything does not remotely mean you will get away with even a one small thing. If you do decide to go this route, I would proceed with extreme - extreme- caution. They love to make dramatic examples of little guys. It's part of how they protect the Big Guys.

by Anonymousreply 64December 7, 2022 9:22 PM

R62, are you supposed to buy thousands in penny stocks or just hundreds?

by Anonymousreply 65December 7, 2022 9:38 PM

I just want all over at this point . Tired and done here.

by Anonymousreply 66December 7, 2022 9:45 PM

R65 Of course, one can buy one hundred shares for €1 or 1 share for €100.

But buyer, beware: the fundamentals remain the same whether you purchase stocks worth €1000 a share or €0,01, so be careful there and don't fuck with leverage (2x, 5x, 10x, 100x) until you know what you're doing. That said, you only really lose money when you sell. Or if you use a shady broker that has Stop Loss (avoid those!), resulting in a forced sale when the price hits X.

If you think a company could have a bright future and it's current share price is something like €0,006, e.g. Maptelligent ($MAPT) you could buy thousands of shares at a meagre price. This recent article may put you on the right track.

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by Anonymousreply 67December 7, 2022 9:51 PM

I've been recently hooked on a casino game called Crazy Time, particularly the Pachinko bonus round. I know gambling's addictive, but it gives me a form of escapism.

by Anonymousreply 68December 7, 2022 11:08 PM

I'm not young and not old either. But I've seen enough to see that many of the very successful business owners I know are assholes who screw people over and break the laws. They cheat their friends, family etc.

The good guys who follow rules and laws finish last.

by Anonymousreply 69December 7, 2022 11:53 PM

There are still non-corrupt human beings out there

by Anonymousreply 70December 8, 2022 10:04 AM

R70 there really are, but unfortunately none of them are doing bits or going anywhere, because society won't let people like that advance.

by Anonymousreply 71December 8, 2022 11:42 PM

Why don’t you open a fibro care home? You’d get lots of business, you could claim to treat it with homeopathy and crystals and have customers for years and years.

by Anonymousreply 72December 8, 2022 11:47 PM

You can live in the Oregon coastal country deep in the fir forest in a lean to hidden from everything. Plenty of people have given up and live in the woods. No shame in any of this. The desert is another option but only for cool seasons. I’d find myself some hot springs to keep me warm. Hawaii is best in climate but crowded try the mainland. Others have thought of this. Oregon coast has a nice balance. The beaches are vast and empty. Second I would get a boat and live at anchor in the bays and estuaries of the coast waterways. This does require an investment of modest proportions.

by Anonymousreply 73December 17, 2022 2:14 AM

Dagnabit, OP doesn't wanna do things Law Way!

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by Anonymousreply 74December 17, 2022 2:47 AM

People see that everything is rigged. They are tired of being used and taken advantage of. This PRI e gouging will cause a lot of people to stop playing by the rules.

by Anonymousreply 75December 17, 2022 4:47 AM

Sarah McLachlan's lyrics to Angel pretty much sums it up - so tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, there's vultures and thieves at your back.

by Anonymousreply 76December 17, 2022 6:56 AM

Life is hard. You work your ass off and the money goes to help everyone but yourself. You're left with just enough or not even to survive on the bare minimum.

by Anonymousreply 77December 18, 2022 10:23 PM

it's hard for many folks right now. with inflation and rising rents...

it's not fair. those migrants come in and straight away they get free food, medical and free housing...this ain't right.

by Anonymousreply 78December 18, 2022 10:26 PM
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