Georgia Senate Run Off Election 2022: Official Thread

Tomorrow is Election Day and n Georgia, if you have not yet voted please go to the polls.

I have already voted. I will be so humiliated (again) if the people of my state are stupid enough to vote for a man with the IQ of a head of lettuce. But then I have to remember MTG. Sigh. I hate the South.

Let’s not insult lettuce.

R3- My sincere apologies, lol. The last time i read an update RW was up four points .

HahA

Thanks for voting!

Warnock is an excellent man!

Haha

[r2] Thanks for voting. Warnock is excellent.

The US is going down the shitter fast when half of the likely voters are voting for a shitass, lying, hypocritical scumbag Herschel.

Warnock has the edge going into tonight -- he is leading in almost all of the polling by 1-4 points, depending on the pollster. Warnock is leading among women, younger voters, independents & black voters.

However, given how close elections have been in Georgia in the past few years, the Warnock campaign can't take anything for granted.

R2

Hold our beer.

-Texas

Hi PollTroll / r8!

I -heart- the Poll Troll!

Hi, R10 & R11. 😊

How is Hazzard County voting? Is is tearing the Duke family apart? Boss Hogg is probably a Trump Republican

The fact that Walker is even within 40 percentage points of being elected to the United States Senate is genuinely amazing to me.

Hershel Walker is an embarrassment, I shudder to imagine him as a US Senator.

Thankfully we won't have to live through that, I have no doubt Warnock has this.

Warnock overperforming last month's numbers in some counties so far. But early days yet.

We also need to have a conversation about Georgia's absurd election laws. A ton of wasted money doing these run off elections. It's so stupid.

You could do ranked choice voting like Alaska does instead. They do basically the same principle without forcing everybody to suffer through a second election.

LIVE: Watch Steve Kornacki as he crunches Georgia Senate runoff voting data in real time.

Maine uses rank choice voting too.

Democratic U.S. Rep. Jared Golden has officially retained his seat representing Maine's 2nd District in Congress.

Golden was declared the winner of the 2nd District race with 53% of the vote on Wednesday after a ranked-choice runoff held in Augusta.

He had a nearly 12,000-vote lead over former Republican U.S. Rep. Bruce Poliquin after the first tally of ballots cast on Election Day. But he failed to garner more than 50% of the vote, so Maine’s law required the race to go to a ranked-choice runoff.

And, after entering more than 315,000 ballots into the secure computer system, Secretary of State Shenna Bellows and her staff hit the button to retabulate the race.

In the end, 12,062 supporters of independent Tiffany Bond ranked Golden second on their ballots. That gave the Democrat more than enough votes to push him above the 50% threshold needed to secure a third term in Congress.

This is the second time in four years that Golden beat Poliquin in a ranked-choice runoff. Golden also beat Poliquin in 2018 with the help of Bond supporters who listed the Democrat second on their ballots.

Nate Cohn:

[quote]As I mentioned this morning, Warnock was likely to get around 59% of the advanced vote if no one changed since the general election. So far, he's tracking right in line with our expectations

How long before Deplorables start wondering how come Herschel is losing if "most of the map is red."

"Just the Democrats cheating again!"

Steve has a stiffie!

I dragged my pneumonia ass out to vote today. Warnock better win.

[quote] Steve has a stiffie!

Election result excite him.

One-third of the vote now in.

Warnock leads by 141,189 at this point in time. (56% vs. 44%).

Dave Wasserman predicting a closer runoff result tonight than some of the polls predicted, but still better to be Warnock:

Thank you for voting for Warnock.

Warnock is an excellent US Senator, a very good man.

Miss Lindsey is with Herschel tonight hoping for a victory speech. If Hershel loses, she’ll need a fainting couch, her smelling salts, a fan blowing her due to the vapors, and a bottle of vodka to treat her emotional outbursts including the hissy fits.

Walker is so dumb.

Rev. Warnock may be the best man in the Senate.

If Satan claimed to be a Republican many Republicans would happily vote for him.

Walker has to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen. Or maybe he was normal before the football concussions?

I can’t breathe

Well, he had better win. I sent a ton of money to his campaign.

[quote]Miss Lindsey is with Herschel tonight hoping for a victory speech.

"Gimme that cock, Bawana!

NYT needle currently predicting a *narrow* win for Warnock. Closer race than expected so far.

[quote]Walker has to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen. Or maybe he was normal before the football concussions?

I am guessing he was not the brightest bulb beforehand, but the concussions have not helped.

It is just depressing this is not a blow-out. The man has a history of being violet with his girlfriends and spouses - has lied about his academic career - about being a cop - has been caught paying for abortions - can barely get out a coherent sentence - debated about being a vampire versus a werewolf - clearly had handlers at every press appearance, and anywhere outside the Atlanta metro is voting for him heavily.

Predictions?

Warnock is over 10 points ahead. How is that a close race?

R39, the vote we are seeing now is predominantly early voting, which favors Democrats. Walker will narrow the lead as more of the Election Day vote comes in.

Kornacki’s at the big board with his khakis on

Walker is doing better in the rural counties than he did in November, but Warnock is doing betting in the metro counties than he did in November. Hopefully Warnock's improvements will outnumber Walkers.

This is just sad.

Would enjoy hearing a Walker concession speech. He’ll blame a loss on the vampires.

So sad this will be close. My God.

How have you not learned by now that it is not about what the current vote count says, it's about where that vote comes from and where votes are left r39.

Votes happen in predictable patterns, we know some counties will be blue and some red, we know there is partisan skew in person versus early voting. Got to do a little breakdown in what you are looking at.

R41, let us know when Kornacki’s at the big board with his khakis OFF.

So its metro vs rural. Who will win? Hopefully Atlanta showed up big for Warnock.

This is too damn close! WTF?

I see that some of the rural bumfuck counties are going for Walker 70-30.

Amazing. Alarming. Painful.

I saw interviews with people in Georgia, who said that they were voting for Walker because they wanted to make sure that Republicans had more sway in the Senate

It feels like 2016 all over again!

Almost 50% of the vote now in.

Race narrows to 53% for Warnock and 47% for Walker.

Mary calm down r52. Either way the Dems control the Senate, we want this seat bad but it's nothing like 2016.

If Herschel is not declared the winner, me and my mistress will give Raffensperger an ear full about a rigged election and demand he find more votes for Herschel to win or else…..

The NYimes needle moved in Warnock's favor!

Went from estimating a Warnock +0.6 victory to a Warnock +1.1 victory!

R56 Way too close.

Warnock now +1.8 on the NYT needle.

Now it swung to Warnock +1.8 victory.

Sure r57, but a win is a win. And the fact as votes are coming in it is getting more confident that Warnock will win is beautiful

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]At this point, turnout in metro Atlanta would need to be unusually rough for Warnock (D) to lose. It'll be a close margin, but he's in the driver's seat now.

Who wants to bet that the retard they made run against warnock's going to be found dead within the year.

My pussy stinks!

Warnock +2.4 on the NYT needle.

GA SOS results page:

R63 Yay!

Nate Cohn:

[quote]The model's becoming a little more confident in Warnock, as he's continued to outperform our projections in the Election Day vote by a pretty modest margin

At this rate it seems like Wasserman might be ready to call it by 9pm, becoming clear where this is headed.

My stomach is in knots (as always during any election) but a huge thank you and appreciation for PollTroll and FCI for being here to help explain how things are going.

Let me just exclaim again—who the fuck would have thought in 2016 that Georgia would elect a Jew and an African American to the Senate? Remember the Republican turds they replaced? I of course I’m assuming the African American is Warnock.

Thank God djt handpicked such an unqualified candidate!

We need to cut into the margins in rural America.

R71/FCI, that's true. That's what Fetterman was able to do in some of the rural PA counties last month.

Dekalb is only 5% reported. That'll be a great county for Warnock.

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]A pattern emerging: Walker (R) is hitting/getting close to the numbers he needs in the reddest, most rural counties. But he's falling a good bit short of the numbers he needs in small/midsized cities.

R66, the needle was as high as 78% or 79% earlier, it's been going down since.

R72 Candidate quality matters!

Exactly, R73

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]First majority Black county in metro Atlanta is in: Rockdale Co. (Conyers), and it's a great result for Warnock (D). Warnock +48.2 in November, Warnock +51.0 today.

Fetterman got out into the rural areas. Areas he should’ve had no chance in, not just in this race, but his prior races. Warnock traveled the state as well. Maybe if more candidates didn’t take votes/no-votes for granted seem they could do better than expected.

I need someone to call this election in favor of Warnock or I’ll start biting my toenails next!

Msnbc live results

Walker just 20,000 votes away, with large Republican sectors not yet counted. Largest Democratic sectors already counted.

Not good.

Look. Nothing wrong with going into rural areas to close the gap. Warnock did that too. But where our strength is, is with the younger voters and we need to work like hell to get them oput. When they show up we win. Look. Gun Safety, the Environment and student loan debt are hot issues for them, but so is healthcare. Minimum wage, employment oppportunities,etc.

Even seeing Walker ahead is nauseating.

Nate Cohn:

[quote]At this stage, the big question-mark is the Atlanta-area Election Day vote. Almost none of it has been counted. Walker will need it to be great -- especially given how he did in the Election Day vote (against our own priors, to be fair) elsewhere in the state

r82 = moron. Ignore it.

I am so fucking disgusted with southern/rural white trash. They really are just the absolute worst of this country. And fuck you if you're offended. No one who could vote for trash like Walker, like Roy Moore, like MTG, Tuberville, Cawthorn, Steve "David Duke without the baggage" Scalise, and be considered anything but trash who deserves to be treated as such. Low IQ/No morals garbage

Reporter interviewed a lawyer and this lawyer said, he is voting for Walker to take control of the senate. How stupid are lawyers in Georgia?

R82 Bro, we know where the vote is yet to be counted. Sit this out.

R82, Boris from Moscow Pushkin Sector, we call them districts here. Go take a swig of vodka, eat some borsch and go to bed.

I can't believe Walker could actually be elected to the US Senate.

R86, already had it on ignore, so he's obviously a shit who lingered before this thread.

R90 ahahahahahahahaha I didn’t catch “sectors”. My sides!

Dave Wasserman continues to think well of Warnock's chances.

I was actually bypassed by a Republican canvasser this election because I look so “Aryan” or so the guy said. “I don’t need to ask you I know who you’re voting for” with a half smile. I said, “straight Blue” but he legit didn’t believe me.

Warnock is a civil rights leader. He works at Martin Luther King’s church. How can this be so close? What the fuck is wrong with people?

It is so disgusting.

Everyone thinks well of Warnock's chances r94.

Every credible election analyst is making it clear that Warnock is currently on track to win. People should relax, it's looking pretty good.

Msnbc live results

[quote] Everyone thinks well of Warnock's chances [R94].

I'd feel better if the NYT needle hadn't gone down, after going way up, before it was paused.

I know it sounds stupid, but I almost find Republicans voting for Walker as the most offensive thing they've done yet. To vote for a guy who is literally either mentally handicapped and/or too brain damaged to even form a complete sentence is just.....I don't even know. There isn't even a word.

How do we know whether Republicans just stuffed the ballot boxes for Walker? With Graham and Trump, I wouldn’t be surprised if they cheated to get these numbers.

R101=MAGAt

Warnock back in the lead with 70% of the vote counted.

R103 - Whew 😅

73% in and Warnock ahead 23.5k

The Atlanta metro area is usually slow to count and favors Warnock.

And yet CNN is still hyping Walker

That it would be this close is just horrific

Was just going to post that R108

To think that many people thought "here is perhaps the dumbest and least honest man I have ever enountered but I am going to vote for him to be Senator just to own the libs."

Dave Wasserman says Walker continues to perform well in North Georgia but that it's probably not enough to offset what is happening in other areas.

R100, there are two words: moral idiots.

I think a normal Repub could have done well. But they went with a dim wit. Hopefully Warnock pulls it out in the end. Voting is like sports. Why be surprised when people support their “team.”

Atlanta/dekalb will favor Warnock (d), but by What Margin?

Because it used to not be like that R112

Those rural older voters whereby most didn’t go to or finish college, are big University of Georgia football fans. And UGA is in the playoffs seeking a repeat national championship. They identify Walker as a winner because of his glory days at UGA.

Athens, GA, home of UGA, has a Warnock plurality.

[quote]Reporter interviewed a lawyer and this lawyer said, he is voting for Walker to take control of the senate. How stupid are lawyers in Georgia?

Maybe he was looking ahead to 2024. A Walker win would make it easer for the GOP to attain a majority in that election.

It would be so embarrassing for the US to have Herschel Walker as a Senator. Even worse than some of the idiots in the House of Reps.

A batch of votes that came in Warnock won 92/8 r113, still a lot of votes left there too.

Nate Cohn & the NT needle are MIA.

[quote] And yet CNN is still hyping Walker

I'm shocked that FOX News-lite would be doing that.

To be totally honest any moron can be a Senator and plenty have been. You just vote the way the party tells,you. That’s about all you really have to do. And that’s what 90% of them do now. Ditto for members of Congress.

[quote]The cable news networks are treating the Georgia Senate race as a neck-and-neck thing right now, but anyone who knows anything about Georgia politics and doesn't have a reason to keep you tuned in is going to tell you a different story... . Walker's campaign is on borrowed time.

^ NYT needle

Biden won Dekalb with 83% of the vote vs. Trump's 15%. Right now only 45% of the vote is in from the county.

Nice numbers for Warnock in Augusta

[Quote]Richmond Co. (Augusta): Warnock +37.7 in November, Warnock +40.5 today. A terrific result for Warnock (D) in Georgia's third biggest city. #GASEN

As per R110, Wasserman notes that there is a sizable Hispanic population in North Georgia who seem to be voting for Walker

Where did PollTroll go?

[quote] I think a normal Repub could have done well. But they went with a dim wit.

They went with a Trump-approved MAGAt.

Oh I see him. My feed is slow.

R127/FCI, I'm still here. I've just been checking various numbers and websites.

Some perspective from Dave Wasserman

[quote] A pattern emerging: Walker (R) is hitting/getting close to the numbers he needs in the reddest, most rural counties. But he's falling a good bit short of the numbers he needs in small/midsized cities. #GASEN

Lindsey edging Herschel with his mouth as the vote goes back and forth.

Meanwhile on Fox News, Hannity is yammering about Hunter Biden…

Thanks for giving us all nightmares R132

Live results

Msnbc

Do we think Lindsey will be offering his hole to Hershel in celebration or as reparations?

Please don’t let the Republicans crow tomorrow over electing an idiot.

Someone should compose a MAG-opera R134

Whenever Trump gets dinged they can start:

[italic] What about her emails?

BLM Riots!!!

Hunter Biden's laptop!!!

Rachel is talking about Atlanta pulsing and throbbing!

The county in Georgia is one of the red-to-purple ones, we have a university. I am always shocked and offended. I voted for Warnock. I am watching MSNBC and experiencing some high levels of stress. If people had sense it would not be this close.

Doesn’t matter how they vote. Fulton County will produce the votes for Warnock to win. It may be Friday or Saturday before they find them in a van by the river but, rest assured, they will produce the votes…with “produce”, being the operative word.

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]As is often the case w/ runoffs, tonight is even more polarized by red/blue turf than the initial round: both parties are doing well in the areas where they concentrated their turnout efforts. On balance, you'd rather be Warnock.

Warnock retakes the lead by 32,000 votes.

Go Warnock!

R141 you are an absolute moron

Wandered over from Truth Social or Gab, R141? In any case, fuck your feelings.

It won't be this close once Fulton and Dekalb have fully reported.

R141 Cry harder

R145 and R146 are why we have trolls on DL R148 too

STOP FUCKING RESPONDING TO THEM

If you, don't have self-control just hit Ignore

Your mother has always been disappointed in you, R141.

Warnock won! 😃👍🎁🤗🎉💥

[quote] Lindsey edging Herschel

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

What county, r140?

You can piss off too, R149.

That 30K+ vote drop for Warnock was delicious.

Oh God please let Warnock win. I can't stop eating and pooping.

R149 wants to speak to the manager!

Walker just needs 11,780 more votes.

R132 Lindsey is sitting on the couch in the hotel room with Herschel watching results on TV. Lindsey is explaining to Herschel what is going on. That said, Lindsey controlling herself must be a big challenge. Maybe all the aides have been ordered out.

Please put the little Hitlerjugend trolls on ignore and let’s focus on the race.

They’re not worth the time it takes to type a reply.

I have come to the conclusion that hissing at trolls makes many DL Eldergays happy and is a way for them to release tension.

R159, I would expect for Lindsey to be blindfolded with his ass up in the air since he’s in a hotel room. It must take a lot of strength for him to stay dressed!

Nate Cohn has disappeared.

R159, I suspect Lindsey is on the edge on the bed with Hershel laying there… Probably Lindsey had two dolls explaining how men “do it” without getting pregnant… He’s likely explaining it all in an anger fucking sort of way… Lindsey is probably angry for supporting this cabbage…

As if Georgia wasn't fellated enough with this "center of the political universe" schtick, we now have primetime news anchors declaring, apropos of nothing, that Atlanta is the cultural center of the country. Dear God.

Fulton County is still at 55% reporting.

[quote]Nate Cohn has disappeared.

Because the Needle committed seppuku.

Rachel just said that, R165. WTF?

I just want to keep seeing Warnock ahead. I didn’t care what the margin is.

Go! Go!

[QUOTE] We’ve taken the needle off the page while we investigate irregularities with the precinct-level data that powers our estimates.

Jesus fucking Christ, just get rid of that stupid fucking NEEDLE already ! How fucking WORTHLESS! We need it for ONE FUCKING NIGHT or two every few years and it DOESN’T FUCKING WORKKkk???!!?!!! HOW?! Stupid fucking New York TIMES! GET RID OF IT!

So many dumbasses on twitter are saying its rigged because whenever Walker had a slight lead then Warnock would get a large amount of voted dropped. They seem to not understand how counting ballots from high populated Democratic leaning areas/low populated Republican leading areas and sharing the information works.

Seriously, Nate Cohn hasn’t nittered in an hour. 9For those who don’t want to give Elon the clicks).

Now, you know, Her-shall, a tight end is one thing, but in the real world time and gravity affects us all. But in the end - and Ah do mean in the end - isn't it all about the pleasure at hand?

[quote]I've seen enough: Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) defeats Herschel Walker (R) in the #GASEN runoff, giving Democrats a 51-49 majority in the Senate.

Wooo!

The Good People Of The World deserve a Warnock WIN!!!!

Yes!! R175, just came here to post that!

Does this mean I never have to care what Joe Manchin is doing again? Or are we still too close for that.

R172 -- they are the same ones who look at the map, see that it is mostly red (because rural counties) and claim that it is clearly fixed

Wasserman calls it for Warnock.

The media wants this to appear close for as long as possible. Washerman calling it is enough for me.

Still too close, R178!

The Wasserman tweet is welcome news after Walker just went back in the lead.

Damn. I really fucking Joe Manchin.

*fucking hate

What’s more useless…the NYT needle or Rachel Maddow?

The MAGAts will be all over the "votes in the middle of the night" thing because they are too stupid to realize that when there are more votes it takes longer to count them....

R186 Walker

[quote]What’s more useless…the NYT needle or Rachel Maddow?

Nate Silver

Rachel "Nothing counts about the votes except the votes themselves."

Wherever you go, there you are.

WARNOCK WON!!!!!! 🍷

50-50

Most of the red counties are at 99% reporting on CNN's page. There are still - I'm guestimating - a few hundred thousand votes left to count in Fulton and Dekalb which are both overwhelmingly Democratic.

The longer it takes them to call the election, the more people watch (or click), the more ad revenue they make.

Kyrsten Sinema will be really pissed if Warnock wins.

I like it, R190!

Again twitter dipshits are saying if Warnock retakes the lead now with mostly Atlanta left then it is rigged. Twitter really is even more of cesspool since Fuckface took it over.

I hate Sinema even more than Manchin.

All the blue counties surrounding Atlanta still has over 200,000 votes left to count.

NYT needle back up. Warnock with a 95% chance of winning.

Has Walker's son been heard from recently?

Yup, the NYT needle is back and has Warnock +3.1

The possibility of cheating is always present. But in Georgia, even though he is a Conservative who is no voting rights advocate, Brad Raffensperger, our SoS is too religious, too self righteous and sanctimonious to ever condone cheating. He is the guy who recorded Trump's extortion attempt. Raffensperger at the helm guarantees no cheating. He supports making it harder to vote, but he won't cheat.

I am here at Trump headquarters just finishing making out 100,000 ballots voting for Trump for president. I have lots of satchels to turn in.

CNN is promoting a nail biter. MSNBC is not as theatric.

Warnock retakes the lead.

NYT needle gives Warnock 95% chance of winning.

And I think with this behind us, I'll be deleting my Twitter account. It's too much of a cesspool to continue.

Raphael won!!

R208 There is absolutely no reason to have a twitter account at this point. If, in its sad last days, there is something important on twitter it makes all the usual media within minutes anyway.

51 Senators - huge midterm win for Dems. Let's see if they can continue to use it for productive purposes with the House doing its pay-to-see-the-geek show .

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]To my eye, Sen. Raphael Warnock (D) is on track to prevail by 2-4 pts. By the standard of the 2021 runoffs, that's a Democratic blowout.

I don’t want to gloat just yet.

Do you suppose that the Senatrice is currently sitting with Walker, explaining what's happening. Perhaps with the use of puppets?

R213, hand puppets!

Glad this is settled. What is sad about all of this is now the republican brand is basically "anybody with an R after their name". Child molesters, grifters, and people struggling with CTE are now okay candidates. Come on people, do better.

I wish CNN would stop milking it. They're pathetic.

R213, it's called penis puppetry.

Plus, with the majority assured, it means that Dianne Feinstein can resign and someone who wasn't born during the first Roosevelt administration can take her spot.

Lindsey, we know you visit DL. Please make this pic from last night as your permanent lead feature on your Twitter account.

Decision Desk HQ is calling it for Warnock. MSNBC and Kornacki still milking it ("too close to call")

Yay!!!!

[quote]Damn. I really fucking Joe Manchin.

Well the good news is we can all go back to not giving a flying fuck about him after Warnock wins.

Sorry, I don't know what the fuck happened in that last tweet link; that was supposed to be Decision Desk HQ calling it for Warnock.

I guess all that campaigning Miss Lindz did for Walker didn't help one bit!

“So many dumbasses on Twitter…”

Shocking! 😀

All of Bidens judges will go through swiftly now. No hold ups with 50/50 committees. This is a good thing. The House being a Republican majority will mean nothing substantive will get done, but we'll get judges.

Now, if Walker actually concedes, let's see if he can give a speech while Ted Cruz and the Senatrice are drinking glasses of water.

Come on, Atlanta! Get those votes for Warnock counted.

How stupid are Georgians? How can it be so close?

Walker in the lead again.

It ain’t over boys.

MSNBC now has a chyron "Warnock Leading in Senate Runoff", but underneath it's 50/50 with Walker leading in the numbers?!

FFS -- get your fucking shit together MSNBC!!

Wasserman and the NYT are both in agreement that Warnock will win by about 2-4 points.

It's been over for a while now r231. The only people pretending overwise just want drama for ratings.

We fought hard for this erection!

R229, where is Marjorie Taylor Greene from? On which side did Georgia fight in the Civil War?

Why is every election so close? It a Dem incumbent can possibly be beat by an illiterate fool, it’s going to only get worse.

Warnock retakes the lead.

Warnock ahead by 14,362.

r237, it's Georgia. A red state. Walker would be 30 points behind in a blue state like CA

Hershel's problem is there aren't any more republican votes out there. All the red counties are at 99 reporting. Fulton and Dekalb are at about 60 percent. That's a whole lot of democratic votes - 150,000 at least. Maybe 40,000 republican votes. The math isn't there for Walker.

Hon most people just for a D or R no matter who the candidate is r237. It's really not that complicated. There are a small portion of swingable voters that shape elections.

Manchin may like a bit of cushion for some of his own votes. He has to please his WV constituents and certain special interests contributors.

Kyrsten Sinema takes pleasure in dissing Democrats, and refuses to explain herself.

Warnock now up 25,000 votes.

MSNBC calls it for Warnock.

BAM! Warnock officially re-elected.

NBC calls it for Warnock

MENBC cwalls it.

NBC projects Warnock wins!!!

NBC calls it for Warnock.

MSNBC calls it for WARNOCK.

MSNBC FINALLY calls it for Warnock! Jesus Christ...

Back to being a fucking wife-beating has-been, Herschel Fetchit.

Warnock vs a Box of Rocks.

It’s 50/50. Incredible

CNN calls it for WARNOCK.

CNN projects Warnock.

An angry Joy!

Yep

We get to exhale now.

NBC calling it isn't any more "official" than Wasserman or Decison Desk r246.

But I am glad other outlets are finally calling it as well.

MSNBC says it's Warnock. Goddamn, Democrats have to get better than 50.25 > 49.75

WARNOCK WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Making popcorn for the Herschel Walker Concession Speech Viewing Party

Show the Walker arena(tee hee).

Medics have been summoned to Herschel’s suite. Miss Lindzebelle fainted and is unconscious.

[Quote] Democrats have to get better than 50.25 > 49.75

The media called it because the rest of the votes are coming from heavily Dem areas. The final vote count will show are bigger difference

Trump’s day just keeps getting better.

Another Trump-picked candidate loses.

Kari Lake - lost

Dr Oz - lost

Blake Masters - lost

Adam Laxalt - lost

Tudor Dixon - lost

Sarah Palin - lost

Herschel Walker - lost

I don’t know Herschel.

[quote]Warnock’s been on the ballot 5 times since 2020 in a purple state and he’s still standing, what an absolute unit.

What’s a unit?

Nooooo!!!

R260, Warnock is projected by Dave Wasserman and the NYT Needle to win by about 3 points.

[quote]Democrats have to get better than 50.25 > 49.75

Gurl, it's Georgia. They have 2 democratic senators. A black guy and a fucking hot Jewish guy who I would let do unspeakable acts to me (but I digress). Take the win. That's the best you're gonna get out of Georgia in this climate.

Mitch ain’t happy. Less power.

Warnock's present margin is beyond what would allow for a recount.

Where was Harry Enton!?

R260, see the post at r241. That explains why we’re not worried anymore.

I cannot freaking believe it is as close as it is!

There are 1.5 million PLUS GA voters who actually came out to vote for the demented, violent half-wit Herschel Walker? He might win!

Warnock lead now up to 35,473.

"Goddamn, Democrats have to get better than 50.25 > 49.75"

It's Georgia. Just a few years ago GA was considered unwinnable for Dems

Christian Walker speaks.

Well, tweets, anyway.

[quote]a fucking hot Jewish guy who I would let do unspeakable acts to me (but I digress).

R273, I have a huge crush on Ossoff, too.

[quote]Don’t beat women, hold guns to peoples heads, fund abortions then pretend your pro-life, stalk cheerleaders, leave your multiple minor children alone to chase more fame, lie, lie, lie, say stupid crap, and make a fool of your family..

[quote]And then maybe you can win a senate seat.

And I oop...

Lindzebelle is probably stress eating right now

I told them I'd do a rally. They said no, they said not necessary- Herschel's gonna win. Famous last words. If they'd only asked I'd have been glad to. Herschel's a great guy, a genius like me. But they said no. So there you go.

Goddamn this was close!

Ron Klein:

POTUS becomes the first President since FDR 1934 to see every Senator in his party re-elected (who was seeking re-election.).

Will Herschel give us his concussion....I mean, concession speech now?

Warnock lead increases to nearly 50,000.

Sleepy Joe isn’t so sleepy.

It’ll be interesting to see if the youth vote finally overrides the old ancient dinosaurs.

Thank god for cities, or else the White House, House and Senate would be 100% Republican.

What kind of speech can we expect, as Herschel returns to anonymity and ghosting white women?

Warnock lead increases to 54,501.

Thoughts and prayers going out to the cleaning staff of Mar-a-Lago tonight.

😂😂😂😂

Will Walker even step foot in Georgia after this. Let's not forget this mofo lives in Dallas, several states away from Georgia.

Warnock lead increases to 58,879.

Warnock (50.9%)

Walker (49.1%).

99% of the vote in

Cities in Milton County (north Fulton):

Alpharetta: Warnock +11 Johns Creek: Warnock +18 Milton: Walker +8 Mountain Park: Warnock +13 Roswell: Warnock +10

Warnock even did very well in affluent north Fulton

We know the Magaplorables don't read. But somehow, some of the Herschel shit seeped into their consciousness- and they voted appropriately.

Glad that is over!

Now that the Democrats have a clear majority BIden can get more of his court picks confirmed. Hopefully Alito and Uncle Thomas will be leaving the SCOTUS in the next two years.

Walker concedes.

Is there a line forming where we all get to kick McConnell and La Senatrice in their count bones?

Don't worry Herschel, you can just run for POTUS in 2024!

I think Trump is looking for a running mate.

Herschel/Kanye 2024? Herschel/Milo 2024? Herschel/Pence 2024?

R307 You forgot ME. Me.

Outta my way bitch at R308, that job is mine!

Very happy, but it's still disturbing that it was that close. A different candidate could probably beat Warnock in some years. If Repugs chose a candidate who could actually read and wasn't such a dimwit, wasn't tied to Trump, and appeared slightly less right wing - Black or otherwise - and gained back some of, for example, north Fulton County voters, would they also lose voters who would vote for someone like Walker.

Scott Jennings, a former aide to President George W. Bush and confidante to Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell, wrote on Twitter on Tuesday night, “Georgia may be remembered as the state that broke Trump once and for all.”

Georgia may have the two best senators of any state. Positive, inclusive, thoughtful, smart and incredibly hard working. Odds were against them…but they deliver. I want them for my state, lol (and yes, Stacey Abrams needs to sell this formula to other states)

Excellent!

Why is every election thread filled with flabbergasted pearl clutchers who don't understand negative partisanship? It's like wandering into a physics/astronomy thread and expressing astonishment that gravity exists.

A little ditty for ol’ Herschel Squirts.

It's interesting how it's lost on the so-called "Christian Nationalists" that people of every race, religion (or none at all), sexuality, etc, were rooting for or voted for a Christian, southern baptist preacher to win. A man whose Christian faith is at his very core was cheered on by people who are seen as a threat to the so-called "Christian conservatives."

Could we finally put an end to the farce of those assholes being anything but heathens? They're supporters of actual, sinning filth like Trump, Walker, MTG,Boebert, Cawthorn, etc, etc etc. They themselves are filth.

And you get an abortion! And YOU get an abortion!

Warnock now leads Walker by 95,000 votes and 2.8%.

What wonderful news to awake to.

what do margarine trailer groin and lari kake hafta say?

R302, wouldn’t it be poetic justice if Alito and Thomas just dropped dead?

I love reading these threads with the benefit of hindsight and knowing that the outcome of the election is GOOD.

Twitter has Laura Ingraham giving voice to something noted upthread "Why do the 'Democrat' votes always come in so late?"

[Because they're big counties bitch and it takes longer to count...but you knew that.]

I was lying in bed last night and I saw the local news reporting that the race was razor thin, but they didn't say by how much. I began to panic. By midnight they were saying Warnock was ahead by about 30k votes with 85% of the votes counted. I began to feel a little less worried, but I thought "the cretin Walker could still win". I finally fell asleep and woke up at 5:40am, turned on the local news and saw that Rev. Warnock had won by about 90k votes. I am an atheist from the word go, but I admit I laid there in my bed and said "thank you Jesus".

They then went to the Warnock and Walker campaign parties and Rev. Warnock did what he does best. Walker was bleating about how it wasn't over and he was going to still do everything he could to help Georgians. I thought "you piece of shyte, you'll flee back to Texas and never give Georgians another thought".

I hope that fat cunt Lindsay Graham went to bed last night squalling like the fat baby he is. But I can just hear all the racist diatribes all of Walker's republican "friends" in Congress right now. They're done with him like a sack of rotten potatoes.

The best is knowing the likes of Ted and Linz will have far, far less power with just one extra D vote.

AZ now has a complete statewide D slate. Biden won it two years ago.

GA has two D Senators, and Biden won in two years ago.

Democrats flipped one Senate seat, didn’t lost any seats (first for any president in the first midterm since the Greatest FDR).

Democrats flipped 3 Govs.

Democrats flipped numerous state legs, flipped seats in many other seats. Not so much for Republicans.

Democrats flipped a Secretary of State and Attorney General while not losing any.

They only lost a very small number of House seats (while flipping 6).

All in a midterm year in the first year as the party in power. This is the best midterm result in 100 years except for 1934.

Feel very good about this despite the closeness of some races.

What a relief…I was sure Warnock would win, but nothing is certain in these uncertain times…watching some of the reporters interview Walker’s constituents I was shocked at their tenacity. Even when they were confronted with facts comparing Herschel to Raphael, they didn’t budge. How stupid can people be?

Well, very stupid, clearly.

A large percentage of Walker voters knew exactly what kind of scum he is, but they don't care. That's exactly the type they want in Congress. Someone not afraid to lie and cheat to get them what they want.

R83, I don’t disagree. We need them too. But we also need voters who understand how their vote impacts the direction of government and who will vote regardless of the issues or the personality (or values) of the candidate, but rather to keep (or get) the government on a course that they prefer (see the GOP base). If more liberal-minded folks understood where voting for Trump (or any Republican) would take the courts, Roe v Wade would still stand.

If young voters are only going to vote on an issue that matters personally to them, they’ll never be a reliable voting base. Which is why it’s important to appeal to the entire voting population, not just where you think you’ll get votes. It’s like what happening with the GOP now: they think appealing only to Trump voters will get their candidates in, but it’s shown to be not enough. And it won’t be enough.

I think it was on this thread that someone said the reason people will vote for a cretin like Walker is that it’s similar to rooting for a home team. They know he’s a cretin but they want him to win. Dems have to keep working on GOTV and also changing the hearts and minds of people to root for the other team.

All the Republicans who ran for statewide office in Georgia won except for Walker. So a better candidate probably would have won. Thank you Trump.

I don't think that's true R330. The republican voters who were going to vote, voted. I don't think they would have come out in higher numbers for anyone else, no matter how qualified he or she was.

White Georgians, the so-called moderate Republicans, don't like outsiders coming in to tell them how to vote. So Lindsey Graham coming in for walker didn't help one bit. The current Republican office holders like Brian Kemp and SoS Brad Raffensperger are about as bland looking as can be. Kemp especially loves to talk in his Southern drawl. But he is an evil racist. Loves Jesus and guns, hates minorities, Gays and wimmin.

The person watching this contest most closely is Donald J. Trump. Political novice celebrity vs. Experienced Politician in a post-MAGA world. Writing has to be on the wall for him. But go ahead and lose... bigly.

In Kemps Georgia, he is sitting on a $6 Billion surplus he did not create, while we have hosp[pitals closing all over Georgia. He is against raising the minimum wage above $7.50. We have a massive homeless problem with a shortage of no affordable housing. We have no rental cap so landlords can raise the rent as much and as often as they want. He talks about our thriving economy but teachers and first responders are leaving their professions because of wage stagnation, and he talks about inflation as if the cost of housing and wage stagnation play no part. He brags about how he kept Georgia open during COVID, but he fails to recognize the actual financial burdens this placed on the healthcare system. He refuses to participate in Medicaid so we have nearly a million uninsured people. Our infrastructure is shit. I'm not just talking about roads and bridges. I'm talking clean water, WiFi, etc. Public Education is shit in Georgia. We needed Stacey Abrams. We have to f ind a way to break the grip of the assholes in the rural northern suburbs. I think Warnock can help us do that.

LOL R331

Kemp and Raffensberger outperformed Walker by a country mile.

Many GOP officials refused to vote for Walker.

Any sentient Republican candidate would have done better than him.

R333 I've got another take at this... Fetterman and Warnock were not the images of "Experienced Politician".... even though Warnock was incumbent. I think Dems can win with politicians who play like "real people, just like you"... which might look different from district to district, state to state. I don't think "experienced politician" is the winning image.

Losing...

We dodged a bullet with Fetterman. TBH

He is not who he appears to be.

He is a Harvard graduate from a wealthy family and his parents basically supported him while he "found himself" and then supported him while he played at being a small town mayor, a job with a salary that was more like a thank you than a living wage.

Fortunately Oz was not smart enough to capitalize on that.

Or maybe it doesn't matter and perception is everything. I had to triple check that after I read it-- I was convinced he was a regulation blue collar rural Pennsylvanian

Fetterman did pick up a masters degree from Harvard r338 but that is very different than going there for undergrad or like law school in terms of how hard to get in. His undergrad was at Albright and his MBA from UConn. Perfectly fine but not super elite or prestigious.

But yes, his father was well off, he comes from a comfortable background.

Almost, R338, but "Harvard graduate" makes him sound like Ben Sasse. He went to a liberal arts college an hour from his hometown and then UConn for an MBA. He later got a master's in public policy from the Kennedy School at Harvard in his late 20s. "Fetterman had a self-described privileged upbringing" (Wikipedia)—but not exactly elite.

Wow, you read my mind, R339.

Who in the hell cares if Fetterman is wealthy? His POLITICS shows he understands that he was given advantages not afforded to others and his ideology is one that believes in extending opportunity to those who never got his advantages in life --that's what it is to be a Democrat as opposed to absolute garbage like a Meghan McCain who never earned a fucking thing in her life and is a typical, selfish Republican.

Yes we were both making the same point at the same time lol r341.

It's a real distinction though, the little secret is a lot of masters programs at "elite" schools are money making machines. It's not that hard to get in compared to some of their other programs.

Anything is better than Oz. Fetterman will probably be a disaster though. Two horrible candidates with one edging out the other.

Exactly, R343. I work in a university and the generation of master's programs basically consumes administrators. Even better money-making machines are "executive master's" programs, wherein local businesses pay the university to send their employees there to get some extra training and a piece of paper.

That said, the Kennedy School has a good reputation and no doubt Fetterman learned a lot there.

Fetterman won decisively and is going to be a reliable vote for the Dems r344. That makes him a good candidate, all we needed from him.

Funny how you all are trying to match "real biography" with "presented" biography. Trump was "a successful businessman".... not. JD Vance was a hillbilly in his genes (ivy league education and support and tech billionaire support). Etc.

Fetterman with his hoodies and shorts and biker-chick wife absolutely sold authentically as "a regular guy." I mean his early job, after the ivy league MA, was as GED TEACHER, jesus.

You know another guy who is a career politician who still sells with many folks as "a guy you'd like to have a beer with"? the president. This president, not the insurrectionist.

Instead of all those white babysitters, couldn't the GOP have teamed him with South Carolina's OTHER "confirmed bachelor" Senator, for better "optics"?

Bless your heart, r344.

The fact is, Warnock projects humility. In a good way. He is definitely of the belief that holding a public office is a stewardship. He wasn't running for Prom King. He was running as a job interview. Which is really what it's about. And I think his "tactic" of engaging with people and saying "we're all in this together, I am going to walk with you..." it really works. When he says he will work for all Georgians he really means it. And yes, he is very similar to Biden and Obama in this regard. Also similar to Jimmy Carter. And even the Clintons.

Warnock is really good, the only thing that gives me pause for a future Presidential run is there is a lot of drama with his ex wife there.

But, but … we still love ❤️ Trump

Marjorie Taylor-Jordan-Gaetz

R332: " White Georgians, the so-called moderate Republicans, don't like outsiders coming in to tell them how to vote. So Lindsey Graham coming in for walker didn't help one bit. The current Republican office holders like Brian Kemp and SoS Brad Raffensperger are about as bland looking as can be. Kemp especially loves to talk in his Southern drawl. But he is an evil racist. Loves Jesus and guns, hates minorities, Gays and wimmin."

Well this white female from Georgia certainly didn't like it. Or him. Kemp is one of the most sociopathic, corrupt, greedy politicians in the GOP. He refused to issue any mask restrictions at the very beginning of the pandemic. He invested in body bags and covid medications and equipment such as respirators.

[quote]" White Georgians, the so-called moderate Republicans, don't like outsiders coming in to tell them how to vote.

And yet 1.7 million Georgians voted for a resident of Texas as their senator.

[quote] We dodged a bullet with Fetterman. TBH He is not who he appears to be. He is a Harvard graduate from a wealthy family and his parents basically supported him while he "found himself" and then supported him while he played at being a small town mayor, a job with a salary that was more like a thank you than a living wage.

Is this really something to care about. Republicans are millionaires and billionaires who went to ivy league colleges but constantly rail against "The elite!" Heck even billionaire Trump did that. And we're supposed to be concerned that Fetterman went to Harvard??

Also, R351, Warnock not being in the Senate makes his critical seat up for grabs in a state that still somewhat leans Republican.

R354- Maybe or maybe the republicans cheated, as usual.

The Republicans and the Christian Conservatives have shown themselves to be morally bankrupt for decades. They lecture others how to live their lives, and yet support the worst of the worst to remain in power.

R357 I think "the left" need to be smarter than the easy conspiracy lunacies that MAGA/GOP excretes. The GOP didn't "cheat" (there is little evidence) but they did (and this is the battle that needs to be fought) do everything possible to suppress the vote.

1.7 millions probably voted for Walker, but many more voters than did vote might have voted for Warnock if given an opportunity.

I agree r359. There might be cheating, but voter suppression is the big cheat Republicans use.

Things turned out relatively well this year, but generally, the reason for right's success and the left's failure is that the left takes its base for granted. the right constantly hypes, cajoles, and keeps its base on a high state of alert.

Is he now married? If not, he can forget about higher ambitions.

[quote] The GOP didn't "cheat"

Uh, they most definitely cheat and some of them get caught.

Not to mention those dirty old people living in The Villages where there was multiple cases of voter fraud.

That's also true r362. We have only had one unmarried President, back with James Buchanan. There still a lot of social bias against single people. Traditionalist think everyone should be partnered up.

R364 I do think the Villages is where the zombie apocalypse will begin. That place is nasty, can we nuke it please?

I'm thrilled that Warnock won but as a Presidential candidate......just, no. If he could barely garner a 100,000 more votes than the likes of Herschel Walker, that's really not a good sign of how he'd do on a national front.

[quote]the right constantly hypes, cajoles, and keeps its base on a high state of alert.

A high state of alert over issues and non-issues that don't require one, r361.

He won Georgia by more than Biden did r367. I'm not exactly sure how much of a margin you expect a Dem to win GEORGIA by.

Well, I just don't know about that, r369. Do you think Warnock could beat Ron de Santis, for example?

And again, I'm a fan of Warnock but I just don't think he could win on a national field.

[quote]I just don't think he could win on a national field

He couldn't, r370. And it certainly remains to be seen if DeSantis could.

The Werewolf Loses.

Beware of people who try to make you think Warnock or any Democrat can’t win Georgia when they won by more than Biden in an unfavorable year.

I’m also in love/lust with Ossoff.

I love Ossoff too. He's going to have a rough time in 4 years getting re-elected, but he and Warnock are close and he was out campaigning for him. There's a substantial JEwish community in Georgia. Metro Atlanta region. And they are the foundation of his support.

They don’t seem to be willing to admit, but the GOP has no national strategy. They won’t cut Trump loose because they are afraid of losing their jobs. There is no leadership or vision.

It was cruel to put such a dumb idiot out there and all his dirty laundry and all for nothing. The guy is practically retarded. He is saying he doesn’t know that lady and she has the damn check smh. What a disaster. The republicans have no bottom.

And then to find out he lives in Texas is just really unbelievable. Of this were a movie it would be panned for its absurdity.

[quote]The republicans have no bottom.

Excuse me, hunty?

How can they claim to be anti abortion when they voted for this guy who gets them once a week.

What a crock of shit. These people are deranged.

" The republicans have no bottom."

Yes, the do.

The GOP strategy is to have that garbage SC with five political hacks to set fire to the USC. That's how they plan to "win."

Ossoff may well face a term-limited Brian Kemp in ‘26. But, as we’ve seen this year, where NO incumbent senators - of either party - were dethroned, he could still be the favorite for re-election.

r369 warnock's opponent is a brainless idiot who illegally ran since his primary residence is tx, not ga, per tax returns

biden's opponent was a charismatic cult leader

Abrams has to be given credit for her voter registration and GOTV efforts. That's how Warnock won. The GOP didn't turn out as many of their voters.

That is Abrams strength R384

She was not a very good candidate - post-mortem is that she seemed too focused on a national audience, not all that concerned about Georgia, would blow off local press for national press and came off as just wanting to use governor job as stepping stone to national politics.

Beto and Kari Lake had similar issues - voters want someone who will take the governor's job seriously.

[quote]Beto and Kari Lake had similar issues - voters want someone who will take the governor's job seriously.

Like me!

Any shirtless Ossoff pics?

Republicans, and that includes Lindsey Graham, Rafael Cruz, and Rick Scott, have already abandoned Herschel Walker as an associate. Walker has no political future in Georgia or even in Texas. He is left as a loser in a rather close race, with a ton of baggage exposed.

Herschel should have listened to his son and some other family members.

It's going to be interesting to see if Texas goes after Walker now for tax crimes. He got a major tax break on his home there by claiming it as his primary residence when he was campaigning for the Senate in Georgia.

At the least he should be fined. I'd rather see him in prison.

Hershel will fade into obscurity.

Secretary of HUD under DJT in 2025.

Why didn't Kelly Loeffler run this time? Was the insider trading a liability?

R359- My fault that I did not state on my post that when I accuse them of cheating gerrymandering and voter suppression is what I mean by cheating so I agree with you.

Kelly realized that being a Senator, one of 100, was hard work. why would she want to do that? And she really didn't like the kind of people she had to associate with. Trump people. Crazies. She is old school Republican.

Walker is a white Southerner’s idea of what a black man should be. He doesn’t have to be smart, but dumb, so he can take orders from his white superiors. And the second his back is turned, they’re calling him the N-word.

Especially now that he’s lost.

Kelly Loeffler was the richest Senator when she was there. It’s how she got into the Senate prior. I agree, I dont think she was comfortable engaging the MAGAs. She has suggested Trump was the cause she lost. That said, her debate performance was repeating a few reheated lines, even to questions not on the same topic. It was obvious she had no zeal for campaigning among the voting masses.

^rehearsed, not reheated

R379, they vote for people who will enact antiabortion policies, and Herschel would have done that. I don’t get why liberals and Democrats expect antiabortion people not to support Herschel.

"Reheated" also works well, R397.

Kelly Loeffler was the epitome of a fabulously rich person who had lost the ability to see reality. Brian Kemp was stupid enough to think she would make a good Senator and she bought into that idea. She was not a person who was interested in doing the work. She thought "I am rich beyond belief and anything I say people will listen to. And I have little doubt her husband (the one with the real money in that family) thought his wife being a US Senator would be good for business.

I seriously doubt she'd ever be interested in running for national office again. She's seen that it's hard work to win. Plus she was humiliated nationally day after day about everything from her looks, her hoity toityness, to her abilities as a Senator.

Ossoff defeated an incumbent white guy (Purdue) which was shocking. I do think Kemp will run in ‘26 for Senate, but since Ossoff defeated an incumbent before, and who knows what Kemp’s popularity will be by then, don’t count Ossoff out.

Plus, Ossoff is gorgeous, sexy, smart and I think he should be president one day.

[quote]Plus, Ossoff is gorgeous, sexy, smart and I think he should be president one day.

Still waiting on those shirtless pics.

Or a shot of his ass in tight khakis.

R400, Brian Kemp was not concerned with whether she'd be good. Brian Kemp was mostly concerned with ingratiating himself to his Billionaire buddy. Doug Collins the lunatic Congressman who loved Trump, was snubbed. Trump hated Kemp for that. Trump told Kemp to appoint Collins. Kemp laughed in his face. Kemp was always all in for the Loefflers.

Brian Kemp right now remains pretty well liked in Georgia r401. It's hard for me to see Ossof beating him if Kemp is his opponent.

It seems Ossoff is much in demand from politicians of both parties as a source of knowledge about technology and the internet.

Though mostly of the "how do I turn my iPhone on and off" variety

For whatever reason, Stacey seemed reluctant to go after Kemp the way she should have. THe truth is, he likes to be almost invisible. He is slay and cowardly. The "Aw shucks" guy. If you want to weaken him you can't suddenly do it two months before an election. YOU need to be doing it NOW.

Which is considered the higher political office—Governor or Senator?

Isn’t it more likely that Kemp would run for President, not Senator?

Kemp may decide to go for Senate. In honesty, Being a Governor is much better than being a Senator. However one is a state office the other federal. In the Senate he is one of 100 people. But in GA he is the Chief executive.

Senator is technically higher in the political hierarchy and prestige, but people who have been governors often don’t want to be a senator because they are used to be an executive who has unilateral power. A Senator has diluted power as one of 100

[quote] Brian Kemp right now remains pretty well liked in Georgia [R401]. It's hard for me to see Ossof beating him if Kemp is his opponent.

Maybe, but incumbent senators are hard to knock off. Not one lost this cycle.

Ossoff is popular and very appealing. Who knows what Kemp’s next move is, but that fug weird looking bitch ain’t gonna be president. Ever. Also, GA will be much more Blue by ‘26. I don’t think Abrams had the spark this time like last. She turns off a lot of suburban white votes were Ossoff wouldn’t.

GA really just is not having the maga at all. Like damn. AZ isn’t either, but shocking the most insane one came the closest.

We thankfully got two great Democrats for full Senate terms- Kelly and Warnock. Kelly votes very left, but as someone said, speaks moderate. They all need lessons in that. Voters like liberal policy, just not the typical liberal talk about that policy. Tester, Kelly, Fetterman prove this.

We really need our good MT Ds to make moves. Bullock is so appealing and was a very popular Gov. He entered the presidential contest too late. Whatever happened to the very popular Gov Schweitzer? He was a badass D Gov of MT. He used to veto R legislation by taking it out and branding a huge veto over the bills like you do cattle.

Kemp may run for President in 2024. He’s one of the few Republicans who stood up to Trump and won. He’s the popular Governor of what is now a swing state with a lot of electors. And he’ll appeal to Republicans who find DeSantis too ethnic, too fat, too crass and/or too white nationalist adjacent.

R412 I don’t think he has much appeal past GA. He is not particularly charismatic. I don’t see him inspiring maga to vote for him to win a primary much less a presidential election. I don’t see Dan and Dee Plorable schlepping out and voting Kemp. 😀

To most of the country Kemp is nothing more than a hick rube (and I'm from Georgia). He sounds like Goober Pyle. His "aww shucks" demeanor would not be popular with most of the country.

US senator serves in the US Congress. This is federal.

A governor is the executive branch within the state, state level.

There is no ranking or hierarchy between the two elected offices. They are in different systems (federal v state) and functions (legislative v executive).

Senators have more prestige since they are national. Now, if you’re the Gov of a huge state like CA or NY, that is way different than the Gov of SD.

I cannot stress this enough- the Republican base is radicalized. There is almost zero way a non-maga R gets the nomination. The base will not accept a Hogan, Kemp, Romney, Cheney or any “normal” R. If by some miracle they slip through and get the nomination, maga slobs will never waste their time voting for “the establishment”. Ds would have a FDR/LBJ landslide on their hands.

The genie is out of the bottle. We’re stuck with these radicalized dirtbags for awhile until they lose enough and often.

R417, Georgia Republicans rejected - by a far margin - the MAGA candidate (Perdue) who challenged Kemp in the primary. I recognize, though, that a statewide incumbent like Kemp has an advantage that may not obtain in an open primary race.

Exactly R413. Kemp is like a more animated version of Mike Pence. Kemp is really bad news too. Rotten fucker.

[quote]Stacey seemed reluctant to go after Kemp the way she should have.

I disagree. I actually think the problem was the way she went after him. She'll be asked questions about something not necessarily related to Kemp and she mentions Kemp in every answer in a rather awkward way. It was actually annoying how she'd crowbar his name into the answer and it just sounded forced. She's not a very good campaigner.

^ Elected incumbents can be awfully hard to unseat. No incumbent senators lost this year, & only one incumbent governor, the one from Nevada, lost. Stacey Abrams should’ve run in ‘20 for the Senate seat held by the appointed Kelly Loeffler.

Noper when I said Stacey didn't go after him I meant that there were issues she did not effectively exploit and honestly she spent too much time on Abortion rights, and her "getting acquainted" ads. I live here. I watched both debates and there were missed opportunities with issues, but I also happen to agree with you R420, when she did call Kemp out she was very awkward,

R414 has a horrible take. The “ah shucks” fascade wins election. It got Carter, Clinton, and Baby Bush elected. Middle America loves southern politicians

R423 charismatic ones of which Kemp is not.

FCI, I respectfully disagree that that the majority of radicalized MAGAts can have their affections swayed by anyone not named Trump. Many of them are going to stay home and nurse their grievances if they can’t have have their powerful orange man of yore and he is no longer the head of the Republican Party.

Hogan’s a moderate, Romney’s a Mormon who already lost a Presidential election and Cheney is viewed as a traitor for working with Democrats. They don’t have a chance even if every Dan and Dee in the country went team normal. I think If a badly damaged Don the con runs against the “Chris Christie as a Florida Nazi but without the charisma” that is Ron DeSantis they might split the Deplorable coalition and Gomer Pyle might squeak through with a plurality.

Desantis can win

^ in Florida, that’s for sure. Nationally, is another matter entirely.

I think he can. He can win purple states. He is likely to appeal To white blue collar voters in NC, IA, WI, PA, and Ohio.

Friends who are close in to all this say the betting is that DeSantis winds up being the new Scott Walker.

He is not the least bit charismatic or even dynamic, has zero sense of humor in front of a crowd, and so when he gets out there, his policy statements will excite the Tucker Carlsons and WSJ Editorial Boards, but to ElderLez's point at R425, your average Dan and Dee Plorable will be unimpressed and it will be hard to get them to turn out to actually vote for him.

Do not forget, fellow Sodomites, that many of Trump's voters have only voted in presidential elections twice in their lives-- in 2016 and 2020. Not because they're young, but because they were uninterested. There is also a sizable enough group of them who voted for Obama, thinking he would be the change they needed to restore their worlds.

This may be an outrageous statement but I think with the collapse of Trump it will be decades before we see another Republican President. And I love that.

The party is such a splintered mess with so many divisive repugnant personalities, it will take many years (if ever) before it morphs into something cogent and united that will motivate their confused and disappointed constituents to vote again in large enough numbers.

And the red majority Congress is actually a good thing for Dems, as it will only put on vivid display how stupid and ineffectual the Republican party leaders are.

You know, at some point the media and we, the voters need to turn away from the whole Trump "thing" and start looking at all these so called "moderates" what the Republican Party post Trump looks like and what they stand for. And the basic fact is, the Republicans are very bad news. They ARE Neo Fascists. There maybe a difference in their style, and in the language they use,, but the goals remain the same. Do not ever forget it. They're quarreling about style not substance. Don't ever forget it.

Georgia attorney Lauren Groh-Wargo who led the “Fair Fight” organization and initiatives, was the strategist in getting a million plus new voters registered. She also managed Stacey Abram’s campaigns.

Grog-Wargo deserves credit for helping move Georgia to being a little purple.

Every election gets us closer to a blue future. We may have to put up with old people’s politics for another decade. When Mitt Romney votes for marriage equality, you can literally feel the ground shifting.

Look. The biggest thing we have to fight is a kind of complacency, or maybe better to call it a lack of urgency. All over the world we can look at how masses of people are controlled and oppressed by a handful of vile ruthless corrupt pigs. So we have to do the work. Because hate them as I do, I have to credit the Republicans with their willingness to do the work. They have dedication and they never acknowledge defeat. They know exactly what the end game is. They know which direction they a re going. And all these lunatic, MAGA dummies are the foot soldiers. They are laying the foundation. The Neo Fascist GOP has weaponized stupidity. We can't let up for a minute. We cannot be lulled by the mainstream corporate media into thinking everything is business as usual. The polarization isn't going away. I feel like the thing I will never see in my lifetime, is those old days when there was bi partisan cooperation. It may come back, but not in my lifetime. And IMO given what we are dealing with right now, I'm glad. Because I don't intend to support "cooperating" with Fascists.

All that Repugs stand for is NO CHANGE and MAKE AMERICA WHAT IT USED TO BE IN THE OLDE DAYS.

That's all. Nothing else. They will inevitably die out as a party (as the elders die) within 25 years.

[quote]Who in the hell cares if Fetterman is wealthy? His POLITICS shows he understands that he was given advantages not afforded to others and his ideology is one that believes in extending opportunity to those who never got his advantages in life --that's what it is to be a Democrat as opposed to absolute garbage like a Meghan McCain who never earned a fucking thing in her life and is a typical, selfish Republican.

I agree all of this. Princess Meghan of Arizona has never pulled herself by her bootstraps.

It would not surprise me in the last if Herschel fled the state of Georgia for his full time home in Texas right after giving that pathetic concession speech in front of his followers. He's much too arrogant to hang around and be stared at and mocked right to his face

I agree that the GOP has been trying for decades to return the USA to a 50s/60s era lifestyle. An era where people who were not white were kept in their place, a place where their very existence relied on what whites allowed for them. A place where immigrants not of Caucasian European ancestry were allowed in sparingly only for the purposes of serving as domestics and laborers for the white population at slave wages.

The GOP has been trying to turn the USA into a model of NAZI Germany for decades, and they stupidly thought having Trump in the White House was the best chance they had. They've brain washed a large percentage of stupid racist white Americans, just like Hitler's NAZI regime did in the 30s & 40s against Jews, homosexuals, and anyone they deemed not pure Aryan, into thinking that's the only thing that will save 'the American way' they so lovingly remembered or heard about from their elders.

The MAGA version of the Republican Party must be destroyed as rapidly as possible. Thankfully they seem to be self destructing, but we'll still be left with a few crazies in the political world who'll keep up the rabble rousing, and the idiots in the populace who will keep the MAGA attitude until they die. We have to put a big enough scare into people who long for the old days so they'll crawl back in the holes they were in before they got the chance to vote for their savior Trump. Since we can never wipe it from some people's minds, they must be reduced to being afraid of espousing MAGA ideology in public.

We're probably at minimum 2 decades away from washing this MAGA scourge from the mindset of most who still long for it. Death is the only thing that will remove it from the elderly .

Herschel gave a great concession speech. It’s been widely lauded

And the second he finished saying what he was told to say, he fled like the wind from all those nitwits listening to his blather. I have little doubt as he left the state he said to himself "they didn't elect me so fuck Georgia and everybody who lives there".

We can assume Hershel was given a script for his concession speech, but IMO it was closer to what he himself really felt and wanted to say, than a lot of the B.S. politicians usually say.

You know, South Africa used the United States' approach when setting up its Apartheid state. It's interesting to study not just America or Europe's history with the slave trade, but it's impact globally. It seems every society had /has its hierarchy.

But I'm not aware of any where POC were the dominant authority and white males the submissives. Fascinating how they ascended and seized control of their worlds. Since their numbers were few, it's evident that the oppressed aided their oppressors, by participating in building the social structure that permitted their own subjugation. I guess in any environment, any society, it is the smart, the ruthless and the cunning who triumph.

Waiting for the old folks to die is a fool’s errand in politics. As the current old folks die middle aged folks take their place. And all generational groups tend to skew more conservative as they age.

I don’t seek to minimize the existential threat that is Trump and Neo-fascist post Trump ideology and candidates in the Republican Party. But claims of the death of bipartisanship are greatly exaggerated. The first Biden infrastructure bill was bipartisan, funding for Ukraine has been bipartisan, the Chips act was bipartisan. The repeal of DOMA and reform of marijuana research laws that both just passed were bipartisan. Heck as I type Rand Paul and Cory Booker of all odd couples are working together on a bill to de-schedule marijuana. Accelerationists want you to believe that democracies can’t work, but that simply isn’t true.

^ Today’s old folks will be replaced by tomorrow’s equally embittered old folks. And so on and so forth.

Look. THe Neo Fascist have plenty of younger generation wannabe Nazis in the pipeline. The young are not the hostages of the old. They are apprentices.

It was Nixon and Goldwater...and Roger Stone who went on to the college campus and actively recruited students to counter act the "radicals" and "Liberal elites" on campus.

[quote] Today’s old folks will be replaced by tomorrow’s equally embittered old folks

But to a lesser and lesser degree with each new generation. And that's why the MAGA ideology has be stomped on hard until people get it out of their systems, or realize that even though they think that way they know it's gone. And that will take decades, not just a few years.

I've said this for years, but the American "freedom of speech" system has been a failure from the get-go. It's this freedom of speech that allowed MAGA to thrive. Speech that seeks to provoke the overthrow of the government should be illegal.

I agree, r443!

[quote]"This is for Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Republican senators; you guys are the reasons why we are losing Republican races all over the country," Greene said during an appearance on Steve Bannon's War Room on Wednesday, per Yahoo News.

Marjorie blames Miss Lindz. This is war! Miss Lindz will have the last word.

Dear Gawd, R447, that photo is gross. The woman is positively Neanderthal. I am Serious.

That photo at R447 will haunt me forever. Scarier than creepy clowns or hell demons.

MTG is the ugliest living female politician. Sarah Huckabest Sanders is in 2nd place.

What about me? I'm ugly on the inside and outside!