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Peter Berlin, who became a name in 70s San Francisco for wearing low rise jeans with a VPL, is still alive & well

He is in his 70s now and seems quite humble for someone who broke down barriers back in the 70s. He walked around the streets of S.F. in skin tight low-rise jeans, with a very visible VPL (before that was a thing like it is now). He was never in the closet and always openly gay, which meant all doors were closed to him, so he had to build his own career.

Very interesting man, from a poor aristocratic family in Germany, to photographer to pornographer.

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by Anonymousreply 65December 7, 2022 8:57 PM

He was quite an icon in his day.

Although he wanted every single man in SF to look at him and lust after him, he rarely had sex, which is how he survived the AIDS years.

by Anonymousreply 1December 6, 2022 2:09 AM

R1 yes, because Peter Berlin was a character he created in his mind. He has said that when he would put on his skintight revealing low-rise pants with nothing under and walk around almost naked, he was playing a character. It’s almost like drag queens, who create an alternate persona and live them in real life, and then out of drag they go back to who they really are. Peter Berlin was a character and object of lust he played in real life.

by Anonymousreply 2December 6, 2022 2:15 AM

It is kind of amazing that Peter Berlin and Jeff Stryker survived the 80s plague.

by Anonymousreply 3December 6, 2022 2:17 AM

He’s lucky he survived 70s America, walking around the way he did in public r3. Granted, S.F. had a lot of gay people and was the gay capital back then, which is probably why he moved there when he moved to the states.

Anywhere else he would have faced major issues. LA, NYC, Chicago etc. he would have been beaten.

by Anonymousreply 4December 6, 2022 2:20 AM

The documentary about him.

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by Anonymousreply 5December 6, 2022 2:28 AM

Damn, he is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 6December 6, 2022 2:28 AM

R5 = I will check it out..Never heard of it...Thanks..

by Anonymousreply 7December 6, 2022 2:33 AM

He was interesting at the time because he didn't seem like the clones that urban gay ghettos were producing. The hair etc. seemed vaguely hippie and the pants surely weren't Levis' 501s. Ur eurotrash.

However, the notion that VPL was so barrier-breaking.... in the 70s? Seems like that's what 70s clothes did for all. Equal opportunity VPL.

by Anonymousreply 8December 6, 2022 2:37 AM

R8 VPL like that was not a thing in the 70s. It really wasn’t. Bulge in the gay community, yes, but making sure you see The penis through the pants in public? No.

by Anonymousreply 9December 6, 2022 2:40 AM

hon... I was born in 1950. I was alive in the 70s, I really was.

All those rock and roll boys wore pants exactly to show their stuff.

by Anonymousreply 10December 6, 2022 2:44 AM

R10 you claim to be turning 30 on another thread, speaking about J Lo….

by Anonymousreply 11December 6, 2022 2:45 AM

R10 those rock and roll guys certainly did not wear their pants like this in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 12December 6, 2022 2:46 AM

Huh? you're high. I've never posted about J Lo... not even sure who she is, ha.

by Anonymousreply 13December 6, 2022 2:47 AM

Uh, yes they most certainly did, R12. To wit:

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by Anonymousreply 14December 6, 2022 2:49 AM

[quote] It is kind of amazing that Peter Berlin and Jeff Stryker survived the 80s plague.

Well, not when you know the reasons why.

Peter Berlin almost never actually had sex with anyone. He just paraded around the Castro looking like the whore of your 70s dreams. He was famous for that.

Jeff Stryker did not make a gay porn movie until 1986. By the time he was having gay sex (always, always as a top), he was wearing condoms.

by Anonymousreply 15December 6, 2022 2:52 AM

R14 those are nothing like his. And that isn’t in the states.

by Anonymousreply 16December 6, 2022 2:54 AM

R13 but you did.

Why are you lying? Why do you keep doing this? It’s so pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 17December 6, 2022 2:54 AM

You can lie all you want that men in the USA were wearing their pants like that in the 70s, it’s a lie. No one was wearing their pants like him.

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by Anonymousreply 18December 6, 2022 2:59 AM

[quote] He was interesting at the time because he didn't seem like the clones that urban gay ghettos were producing. The hair etc. seemed vaguely hippie and the pants surely weren't Levis' 501s. Ur eurotrash.

Clothes were still very hippie-ish in the early 70s, which was Peter Berlin's big era. It wasn't until later in the decade that that look went out of style.

by Anonymousreply 19December 6, 2022 3:11 AM

Beware of R17 -he is posting with multiple accounts. On one he even pretends to be a lesbian. It really is neurotic compulsive behavior, often he even argues with himself on these threads. Best to FF him.

by Anonymousreply 20December 6, 2022 3:12 AM

R20 all you do is make up lies. It’s so weird. What is the fucking point? You’re called out on lying (again) so what you do is make up yet another lie? Just get off the site. Jesus. You’re fucking uneducated as it is yet alone a liar. Be thankful I haven’t taken shit further, count your blessings, and just get off of here.

by Anonymousreply 21December 6, 2022 3:15 AM

R21 We've logged all your multiple attempts to disrupt this board. You have only a few more chances, and then your pathetic lies will not only be exposed, but your attempts at catfishing and deception may have a more serious result.

You might reflect on what these multiple posts and deceptions do for you? What disturbed psychology is going on here??

by Anonymousreply 22December 6, 2022 3:20 AM

He'd look better with a more age-appropriate hairstyle.

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by Anonymousreply 23December 6, 2022 3:26 AM

R22 what????? Dude. Get off of here, and go take some classes. Go to school. Get a job. But do something valuable with your time. You have been posting on here since yesterday. You lie and lie. it’s Insane. I’ve been on the internet since the 90s and have never seen anything like this. You are one of the most uneducated people I’ve had the misfortune of interacting with. Go educate yourself. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 24December 6, 2022 3:26 AM

You two should get a room

by Anonymousreply 25December 6, 2022 3:45 AM

R20 - R24

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by Anonymousreply 26December 6, 2022 4:11 AM

I had an odd, but memorable encounter with him almost 40 years ago at the historic 8709 bathhouse in West Hollywood. He had a room and we fooled around a bit. I wanted more, specifically to suck his beautiful thick cock. But he was not into oral or anal. He had an extra pair of ultra-thin leggings that he had me try on. He got off on having me pose and model while while wearing the see-through pants all while standing above him on the narrow cot in that little bathhouse room. He wanted me to sway and dance while playing with my dick. Eventually we started rubbing and got into frottage. I managed to work my head down to his cock and rubbed my face against it through his wafer-thin leggings. Eventually he came and it soaked through. I started to suck his cock and cum through the fabric. He seemed OK with that. I peeled down the waistband and began to lick up the cum that was on his thigh. I worked my way to his dick and he let me clean the cum off of it, allowing me to put the whole thing in my mouth. He stopped me before I could spend too much time on it. Dear god, it was delicious. It’s an experience I’m eternally grateful for, and one I’ll never forget.

by Anonymousreply 27December 6, 2022 9:56 AM

Thanks for that memory r27

by Anonymousreply 28December 6, 2022 10:20 AM

Is he still a crackhead? Not too many years back he admitted in an interview that he smoked crack daily.

by Anonymousreply 29December 6, 2022 10:40 AM

He sounds self absorbed and boorish

by Anonymousreply 30December 6, 2022 12:35 PM

[quote]It is kind of amazing that Peter Berlin and Jeff Stryker survived the 80s plague.

No, it's really not. One went through the plague practically celibate. The other was a gay-for-pay performer who was a strict top. HIV among gay men was largely contracted through receptive anal sex - bottoming. If you weren't taking raw loads up your ass you probably weren't going to get it.

by Anonymousreply 31December 6, 2022 12:38 PM

[quote]Anywhere else he would have faced major issues. LA, NYC, Chicago etc. he would have been beaten.

You obviously were not around the West Village back then.

by Anonymousreply 32December 6, 2022 11:59 PM

Did that story make it into your Christmas newsletter that year, R27?

by Anonymousreply 33December 7, 2022 1:27 AM

R33 No, but I shared it at the Thanksgiving table when it was my turn to say what I was thankful for. Gobble gobble. Pass the gravy.

by Anonymousreply 34December 7, 2022 5:51 AM

R27, seems like he should have just let you give him a blow job.

by Anonymousreply 35December 7, 2022 8:42 AM

Born 1964 here, and I remember cute guys in tight pants in regular everyday life during the late 60s and into the 70s, especially the young college hippie crowd. I've always been an avid Crotch watcher since a wee gayling. My three older sisters had boyfriends in that vpl group, and my two older brothers were part of that vpl group that frequently did not wear underpants, and they're both straight. It was considered radical and rebellious at the time, and they did not want to conform to societal norms and be told what to do, etc. I was there during that time, and often saw it with my very own gay eye balls...

by Anonymousreply 36December 7, 2022 9:10 AM

^^I was a gay boy scout. ;-)

by Anonymousreply 37December 7, 2022 9:11 AM

Were any of the Scouts freeballing?

by Anonymousreply 38December 7, 2022 9:30 AM

[quote]We've logged all your multiple attempts to disrupt this board. You have only a few more chances, and then your pathetic lies will not only be exposed, but your attempts at catfishing and deception may have a more serious result.

R22 MARYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! She's a haxxxor

by Anonymousreply 39December 7, 2022 9:37 AM

R35 I sure wanted that. He just wasn’t interested in penetrative sex. He did let me get it in my mouth briefly. Oh well, I’ll take what I can.

by Anonymousreply 40December 7, 2022 3:15 PM

Again, pants being tight was the norm back then. Wearing them smaller than your actual size with no underwear on was not. Despite the person who came back and now was born in 1964 instead of 1950.

by Anonymousreply 41December 7, 2022 3:19 PM

No underwear was, indeed, a thing, back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 42December 7, 2022 3:27 PM

R42 that’s not true. Most of the country was very very conservative and that could even get you locked up in most of this country.

by Anonymousreply 43December 7, 2022 3:28 PM

OP your history is off. Don't dig in your heels. VPL in crazy pants was very much a think from the 60s to late 70s.

by Anonymousreply 44December 7, 2022 3:31 PM

a thing

by Anonymousreply 45December 7, 2022 3:31 PM

DL is getting nutso with these "look at all the posts you made, from fake accounts!!" insanity. R41 I am the poster who was born in 1950. I posted nothing about 1964. Get a grip hon....

And, as I remember it, wearing "no underwear" was absolutely a hippie thing... it was "real, natural" and felt "free".... young guys before the plumbing starts leaking. I'd hazard to go commando at my age.

by Anonymousreply 46December 7, 2022 3:40 PM

Someone demented up in this thread with her arguing. VPL and basket was everywheeeere in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 47December 7, 2022 6:22 PM

R43, go take your meds. You missed a dose. No one was ever "locked up" for VPL or not wearing underwear. Stop spreading lies.

by Anonymousreply 48December 7, 2022 6:25 PM

I was there and yes: "VPL in crazy pants was very much a think from the 60s to late 70s.".

What is this mania for trying to rewrite the past?

[quote]Most of the country was very very conservative and that could even get you locked up in most of this country.

What bullshit. No, the hippies and gay men were not being locked up for wearing tight pants and no underwear. LOL.

Not to mention the short-shorts...

by Anonymousreply 49December 7, 2022 6:28 PM

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by Anonymousreply 50December 7, 2022 6:30 PM

VPL was everywhere in the 70s. Even when I was in high school it was present because designer jeans like Britannia were making pants to show off your bulge.

by Anonymousreply 51December 7, 2022 6:33 PM

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by Anonymousreply 52December 7, 2022 6:36 PM

Damn, in his OP photos, Peter should have shown off his beautiful foreskin.

Es lebe die Vorhaut!

by Anonymousreply 53December 7, 2022 6:47 PM

Jaysus! It might be argued that there was more VPL in the ‘70s. Guys wore speedos, cut offs, and short shorts. As awful as double knit pants were they clung to the body.

You children have missed out on so much with your grandpa board shorts.

by Anonymousreply 54December 7, 2022 6:58 PM

I have seared into my memory the exact proportions of several JHS and HS teachers' cocks. Jeans were THIN and TIGHT! I'm sure they wore no underwear, too. My teachers were the hipsters of the day. Many became teachers because it was a way out of Vietnam draft.

by Anonymousreply 55December 7, 2022 7:12 PM

Honey, those weren't hipsters, they were hippies.

by Anonymousreply 56December 7, 2022 7:29 PM

R56 there’s a difference, namely substance.

by Anonymousreply 57December 7, 2022 7:49 PM

Some of them were hippies but not all. Others were just progressive liberals and some were trendy party people - the hippy teachers were still wearing nasty hippy clothes. Yak coats from their tours nepal, boots, classic jeans. The guys in the new thin designer jeans in the 70s were groomed and clean and going to discos and marrying sexy babe teachers. Thats why there junk was on display.

by Anonymousreply 58December 7, 2022 8:02 PM

the junk. their junk.

by Anonymousreply 59December 7, 2022 8:02 PM

r46=June Allyson

by Anonymousreply 60December 7, 2022 8:05 PM

The NYC of 2022 is so much more uptight, conservative and straight-laced compared to the thoroughly wild NYC of 40-50 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 61December 7, 2022 8:20 PM

What is VPL??!

by Anonymousreply 62December 7, 2022 8:25 PM

Very Polish Lady

by Anonymousreply 63December 7, 2022 8:28 PM

His hard dick was big, but at 7”, hardly in the huge category.

by Anonymousreply 64December 7, 2022 8:30 PM

Visible Penis Lines

by Anonymousreply 65December 7, 2022 8:57 PM
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