Jennifer Warnes- It's The Right Time Of The Night 1977

looks like a homely boy in some shots

definitely some homely back up singers in that video, but that was also not an unusual look for guys in the 70s.

Her Best of album is great. 10 tracks. All killer, no filler.

I concur OP.

I love Jennifer Warnes. One of the best pop singers ever and the definitive interpreter of Leonard Cohen.

I wouldn't say she's the definitive Cohen interpreter. Cohen himself was supportive of her album but even he expressed some reservations.

Cohen couldn't sing to save his life, so what the fuck did he know?

I bought the 45.

Definitely gives off lesbian vibes in that video. The vest has a lot to do with it, as does the short hairstyle. But there's also something about her attitude in the video, especially toward the end, that comes of like she's not singing this song to a man.

Don't get me wrong. I actually like this song otherwise I wouldn't have bothered posting it her on the datalounge.

Well, he knew his own songs and Jennifer Warnes' Easy Listening inclinations weren't entirely in the same vein...

Her voice was just as good as Linda Ronstadt, but because she didn't look as good in short shorts, she didn't get the same career

R9- Watching the video it's as if she singing-

It's the right time of the night for making love TO A WOMAN.

She's a prolific songwriter and is worth millions these days, that's her main career.

I love her performance of the theme song from Norma Rae, “It Goes Like It Goes”—a dizzying, beautiful song.

From Wikipedia:

[quote]She was so committed to her Catholic faith, that for a while she entered a convent after graduating from high school.

That garners both a religious and non-religious MARY! from me.

What hit songs has Jennifer Warnes written?

R17 Don't they have Google over there by you?

None, R17. She was a singer who didn’t write her own hits. À la Linda Rondstadt.

She wrote some good songs, though, like "Shot Through The Heart."

I actually stumbled upon her obscure version of this song from Hair the other day which led me to her hit song of 1977. I like her version of Let The Sunshine In from 1969.

R21- Is me OP.

Um, i think her voice is boring and bland. It does NOT compare to Linda Ronstadt, who had definite range.

Jennifer has subtley, nuance... Linda couldn't relate.

*subtlety

there's a reason Jennifer Warnes was never a very popular singer and made the switch to songwriting. Her "subtlety" wasn't all that compelling and she sounded very monotonous and boring.

Jennifer was not one to do as she was told. It's pretty much that simple.

Yes, if only Jennifer was a gifted singer as Madonna or Janet Jackson she would have been much more famous

R28- You consider Madonna GIFTED?

r29 = Katherine Jackson

That song was played everywhere. I'll never forget that even a woman in the post office said when the song came on, "I hear that song all the time." It got a ton of airplay.

She wore the whole hippy look well.

(She's a bit cross eyed BTW which probably didn't help)

I've Had the Time Of My Life was originally offered to Donna Summer, who turned it down because she didn't like the title to the movie "Dirty Dancing." It was ungodly or some shit. Bad decision, Jennifer agreed to do the song with Bill Medley and they had a huge monster hit with it and made a ton of $$$$$.

R5 just this morning on my way to work I was listening to her cover of one of Leonard's songs and thinking I don't know enough about her catalog and that I really needed to tell deeper into it and then today I come across this thread so that's crazy.

Jennifer and Bill also sued a cruiseline that used soundalikes on a rewritten version of the song.

R32- This is the BEST version of Easy To Be Hard

Last time I looked at that video on YT there were a lot of thirsty commenters calling her the hottest woman of the 70s!

So is she an unclaimed treasure?

I was lucky enough to see Warnes in concert a few years ago in Richmond Hill, which is north of Toronto. It was a great show, but curiously, she only sang one Cohen song - and it was part of a medley. The audience kept requesting more Cohen but she didn't perform any other Cohen songs. She did sing Up Where We Belong .

She’s pretty much forgotten now even though she had two number one songs.

This, however, is my favorite song of hers.

Legacies have to be maintained.

She looked JUST like my fifth grade teacher.

R12 it's interesting you compared her to Linda Ronstadt as I've always thought her tone was very similar to Linda's albeit a bit deeper. I miss pop singers who actually had character to their voice.

Arguably her best track.

Hottest woman of the 70s? Apparently they are blind and/or haven't seen Jan Smithers (Bailey on WKRP).

Warnes looks like a stay-at-home Christian mom who teaches bible study at Sunday School and always contributes to bake sales.

r43 I've never heard Warnes hitting high notes like on Blue Bayou, her songs with Nelson Riddle (Someone to watch over me) and many other Ronstadt songs. Warnes has a very low, boring voice with almost no variation in notes/tone, and never hits any high notes. Also, Ronstadt has a clarity in her voice that Warnes really doesn't possess. She sounds like she did a few bong hits on most of her songs. Listen again.

[quote]This is the BEST version of Easy To Be Hard

I much prefer the Jennifer Warner version. Sung as it was intended in the show. The screeching caterwauling version at R36 is banal.

Did she and Laura Branigan ever share a stage with Cohen?

She looked dykey.

It's the right time of the night for EATING YOUR SNATCH.

I was a big fan of her in the ‘70s. She first came to my attention when she was a regular on the Smothers Brothers show in the late ‘60s.

She records quite infrequently, but she’s taken great care of her voice. She sounds most the same as a septuagenarian as she did 50+ years ago, even a bit warmer now.

I think she is a better interpreter than Ronstadt, though nowhere nearly as prolific or adventurous in her career.

I actually never liked her singing or this song (I actually really disliked it), but she must have something that I don't hear, since she's so well regarded.

She and Karen Carpenter were some crappy ass singers, IMO. That's all I'm going to say about that.

Karen Carpenter was one of the greatest female vocalists of the 20th Century. She was an extraordinary talent. She was never appreciated for the artist she was until years after her death.

^ As Ella Fitzgerald once said, if you don’t like Karen Carpenter’s voice, you don’t like popular music.

Her version of the Todd Rundgren tearjerker.

If it wasn't for the voice Jennifer Warnes and Randy Van Warmer could be the same person.

I couldn't stand Karen Carpenter, either, R52.

She seems so smug and content in her homeliness in the OP video. Only in the 70s could one look and dress like a Sunday school teacher and have a hit song.

I miss the seventies.

The critics are raving on YouTube:

"Just about my favourite clip on YT at the moment ! .. I find this Jennifer Warnes performance totally magical .. Wonderful live vocal (even better than the record ), and such an engaging, personality filled delivery .. Love her feeling and her gorgeous, too-cute-for-words facial expressions .. Love everything about this ! 🥰👏😍👏"

"Jennifer Warnes is so incredibly talented! I absolutely love her profound singing voice and her rather shy personality in this live performance. She actually looks like a purely wholesome school teacher in this clip, but there's nothing wrong with that. She is very beautiful just the way she is and plus she obviously has no problem being herself."

"Excellent melody and feel, uncomplicated and simple, but enduring in its appeal. A pretty lady in jeans, wearing glasses, perfectly complements the wholesome simplicity..."

"Two thumbs up. Looks like a math teacher from the 70's. No fancy wardrobe or dance routine. Not needed when you posses talent."

You can say that again, r58!

r61 looks like she's a cross between ONJ and Anne Murray. I halfway expect her to break out in "I honestly love you" but she wouldn't be able to pull off the notes (out of her range).

Oops, i realize that's Deb Boone. One in the same.

Can't you see her in a nun's habit?

Her Wikipedia makes no mention of her personal life. No spouse listed…

Makes me sad for some reason.

If Rachel Maddow were a pop singer, she'd be Jennifer Warnes.

[Quote] I've never heard Warnes hitting high notes like on Blue Bayou, her songs with Nelson Riddle (Someone to watch over me) and many other Ronstadt songs. Warnes has a very low, boring voice with almost no variation in notes/tone, and never hits any high notes. Also, Ronstadt has a clarity in her voice that Warnes really doesn't possess. She sounds like she did a few bong hits on most of her songs. Listen again.

Why would I listen again when you haven't even listened to, say, Warnes' version of "Don't Make Me Over"?

[Quote] I halfway expect her to break out in "I honestly love you" but she wouldn't be able to pull off the notes (out of her range).

What a nonsense. ONJ had a thin voice with a screechy upper range.

I can never taken Karen Carpenter entirely seriously after that little "oh!" she does on their version of "Ticket to Ride." It's so actressy. She played at life, she didn't live it.

[quote]I bought the 45.

How many did you need?

[quote]One in the same.

Oh, dear!

R7 = has shit taste

R72 has shit in his ears.

Randy VanWarmer was cute in a nerdy professor way.

Jennifer Warnes is Terri Gibbs with 20/30 vision.

Leaving this here. Notice Warnes doesn't show up in this list. Ronstadt does.

Linda Ronstadt doesn't rate her own music. Linda knows.

She’s a bland performer. Her music is bland. She should tour with that wild ass Rita Coolidge

A live vocal while promoting "First We Take Manhattan."

It’s the right time of the night for fingering my cunt.

An album in this vein would have been nice.

[quote]I miss pop singers who actually had character to their voice.

Check out Weyes Blood (real name Natalie Mering). She’s like a cross (vocally) of Aimee Mann and Karen Carpenter, but better than that comparison might seem. She has a very rich, low voice.

Any kween looking for an outrageous 9-octave range and schlocky songs will be disappointed however.

[quote]I can never taken Karen Carpenter entirely seriously after that little "oh!" she does on their version of "Ticket to Ride." It's so actressy. She played at life, she didn't live it.

What on earth does this even mean? Christ.

[quote] She was so committed to her Catholic faith, that for a while she entered a convent after graduating from high school.

Lesbian, then.

She does look like a lesbian at OP's video. Yes, the vest added to the pings on the gaydar.

Voice sounds like Anne Murray (another suspected lesbian), to me.

I wouldn't have thought about Linda Rondstadt, but that's a good comparison. Karen Carpenter, as well.

[quote] she’s taken great care of her voice

People who sing in a lower register like JW can maintain their voices longer. I saw an interview of Gladys Knight and she said that, early in her career, someone told her to bring the key down on the songs she was performing.

She's probably taking the nutloaf out of the oven as I type for turkey day.

Two friends of mine have dealt with her and said she was a complete pain in the ass. One worked at a sound mastering company where she was a client and said she was one of the worst musicians he had to deal with. Another encountered her while working at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. She brought up about 3 of her albums to the front counter that she had discovered in the 99 cent bargain bin and made a fuss about it, asking why her albums were in the bargain bin, as if they should be up on the wall with a high price tag.

I love her voice, its deep resonance and her vibe.

She looks so fug right around the 2:29 mark when she's hitting those long notes.

Yikes, R87. Thanks for the gossip. I wonder what her gripe was at the mastering studio?

Bitch stole my act.

I knew someone several years ago that knew her quite well. She is indeed a difficult person: while very talented she’s a nut when it comes to her opinion of the music business. She’s bitter and thinks everyone is screwing her over. Mostly record labels. And she has no money. For someone who’s such an audio perfectionist she’s done nothing to preserve her very sparse back catalog.

Watching this feels like my home economics teacher singing to me about feeling horny.

R27, What exactly in detail did Clive Davis want Jennirer Warnes to do that made her object? Are we talking about her appearance or her reluctance to engage sexualy with certain people?

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R94: Clive did what he did to a lot of people signed to Arista at the time. When it came time for Jennifer to record her third Arista album in 1981 he started micro-managing the sessions and wouldn’t let her finish songs that she wanted. So she bailed out of Arista and released the Best Of album with two new tracks that survived those sessions. Clive did the same thing to Al Stewart: drove him off the label by insisting on creative control.

[Quote] What on earth does this even mean? Christ.

Are you familiar with Carpenters' "Ticket to Ride" from their "Singles" album?

[Quote] What did Clive Davis want Jennirer Warnes to do that made her object?

Compare her output to Melissa Manchester's and there's your answer.

Weyes Blood - bland as fuck

She had zero appeal.

[quote] I can never taken Karen Carpenter entirely seriously after that little "oh!" she does on their version of "Ticket to Ride." It's so actressy. She played at life, she didn't live it.

It's not like "Ticket to Ride" was a deep and gritty song.

[Quote] It's not like "Ticket to Ride" was a deep and gritty song.

The problem isn't the song, it's her attempt to throw in a little exclamation of anguish. It fails to convince.

^^Let’s not turn this into a Carpenters thread, bitch.

That "The boy who's driving me mad is going awaaay! OH!" is a homage to a similar exclamation in the original Beatles recording.

I've also heard she is notoriously difficult. But like a lot of great singers, Dusty, etc. she can be a perfectionist. Arista released a bunch of those budget Platinum and Gold collections some years ago and apparently, Warnes demanded her collection be removed, although I think now it's being sold again.

As r92, stated, she hasn't done much to preserve her catalogue. She was involved in the 20th-anniversary reissue of Famous Blue Raincoat but she seems to be sour on her Arista years. Aside from her popular duets and Right Time of the NIght, she doesn't have any songs that have endured or introduced her to new generations of fans.

I can't blame her for disagreeing with Clive. He had a way of blocking artists' creativity but I think someone like Melissa Manchester was better at compromising. She would sing the hit songs to sell the album but write a few album tracks which allowed her to gain songwriting credits and to tap into her creativity.

She had a gift for writing songs that earwormed.

She’s a lezzy.

Does anyone else wonder why so many super talented, created singers and songwriters are lesbian or at least bisexual?

The song is so romantic.

[quote] Does anyone else wonder why so many super talented, created singers and songwriters are lesbian or at least bisexual?

Can you give some examples, R108?

She looks like a 2nd year grad student at the newly established Women’s Studies Department at Yale, circa 1977

Up...

Does she hold the record for singing most Oscar nominated songs?

She sang the nominees from Norma Rae, Dirty Dancing, An Officer and a Gentlemen and Ragtime.

hated her songs

[Quote] Does anyone else wonder why so many super talented, created singers and songwriters are lesbian or at least bisexual?

Gay people tend to learn performance - a false face - at a young age. The stage is also somewhere where respect is granted alongside affirmation. There's safety there.

I've Had the Time Of My Life was inescapable, that fucking song was played every five minutes for months, you heard it constantly. The same thing happened with Celine Dion's Titanic song a decade later.