Tucker Carlson was among the conservative media figures that continued attacking LGBTQ people in the wake of the Club Q shooting.
Right-wing influencers and media double down on anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in wake of Colorado shooting
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 24, 2022 4:45 PM|
On Monday evening, Fox News host Tucker Carlson condemned the shooting, focusing on the suspect’s reported history of making a bomb threat in 2021. Three minutes into his nearly 15-minute monologue, however, Carlson’s show displayed a graphic reading “STOP SEXUALIZING KIDS.” On Tuesday evening, Carlson hosted a guest who said shootings would continue to happen "until we end this evil agenda that is attacking children."
Alejandra Caraballo, a clinical instructor at Harvard Law School’s Cyberlaw Clinic, said that the repetitive messaging from Carlson and others has opened the door for violence against LGBTQ people.
“The way they soften up the support for this kind of violence is essentially by making it seem morally justified in the minds of people who believe this,” Caraballo said. “The way they do this is by constantly painting LGBT people as pedophiles and groomers, and so people feel morally justified in carrying out this violence.”
Some well-followed accounts on social media that have routinely and misleadingly associated LGBTQ people with sexualizing children continued to do so in recent days.
Tim Pool, a conservative internet personality with 1.4 million followers on Twitter, targeted the venue, Club Q, where the shooting happened.
“We shouldn’t tolerate pedophiles grooming kids,” Pool tweeted. “Club Q had a grooming event. How do prevent the violence and stop the grooming?” Pool appeared to be referring to all-ages drag Sunday brunches that were being hosted at the venue.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 23, 2022 1:55 PM|
Hmmm... Suspiciously sounds exactly like a few people on DL...
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 23, 2022 1:55 PM|
Typical GOP--creating a narrative that has no relationship to reality and then doubling down on it:
Matt Walsh, a prominent conservative YouTuber known for his criticism of LGBTQ people, published a video on Tuesday titled, “Why The Left Is So Desperate To Expose Children To Drag Queens.” Walsh, who has 1.9 million YouTube subscribers, called the shooting “tragic” but doubled down on his attacks on drag queens. “Is it that hard to not crossdress in front of kids? Is the compulsion that overwhelming?” he asked in the video. “If it’s causing this much chaos and violence, why do you insist on continuing to do it?”
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 23, 2022 1:57 PM|
Well, duh. They are seeing results of their Campaign of Hate! Why stop now?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 23, 2022 1:58 PM|
Democratic leaders refuse to call this information out. All they say is “hold hands”, they rarely refute Republican talking points to make things clear.
Like come on Biden, come on AOC, call it out. The right is using old school tactics straight from the homophobic handbooks of the 1940’s and 1950’s and creating an agenda to discriminate against lgbt people again!
Like someone with a voice, please say something.
That won’t happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 23, 2022 2:00 PM|
[quote] Like come on Biden, come on AOC, call it out.
AOC DID call out Boebart
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 23, 2022 2:05 PM|
Lauren Boebert defends her past anti-LGBTQ and anti-trans tweets during KOA radio interview in wake of Club Q shooting.
Because she thinks shooting up LGBT is fun fun fun!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 23, 2022 2:06 PM|
Perhaps OP and the rest of the posters outraged at the "right-wing" have completely forgotten (conveniently ignored?) that Club Q had a scheduled Drag Brunch for parents and CHILDREN the morning after the shooting.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 23, 2022 2:06 PM|
Oh no! Not a drag brunch with children!
Were the parents forced to bring their children, or would it have been their choice?
Why are you against parental choice?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 23, 2022 2:11 PM|
R9 You know very well it's NOT about parental choice. Because no sensible, sane parent would expose their child to a highly sexualized drag show. Why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 23, 2022 2:14 PM|
W&W for R9.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 23, 2022 2:16 PM|
[quote] You know very well it's NOT about parental choice. Because no sensible, sane parent would expose their child to a highly sexualized drag show. Why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
It’s not about parental choice only because you’re making that choice for them, and all parents must bow to your decision
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 23, 2022 2:23 PM|
R12 No one makes the choice but parents. Who are far more sensible that you and OP as to what situations their children can and cannot handle.
And I ask yet again, why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 23, 2022 2:26 PM|
I believe that parents should make that decision, not the government
And certainly not terrorists who excuse shooting up a gay bar because there was going to be a drag brunch the next day.
Keep your nazi politics out of my family, you scum
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 23, 2022 2:29 PM|
R14, what are your thoughts on teachers keeping a student’s preferred pronouns secret from their parents?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 23, 2022 2:32 PM|
Children would be a wet blanket at any drag event. They'd spoil the vibe.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 23, 2022 2:32 PM|
[quote] I believe that parents should make that decision, not the government
The government makes many decisions in the interest of child protection. Surely you are not against protecting children.
[quote] And certainly not terrorists who excuse shooting up a gay bar because there was going to be a drag brunch the next day.
Where do you see that posted on this thread?
[quote] Keep your nazi politics out of my family, you scum
Nazi politics? Which one are those? Exactly?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 23, 2022 2:34 PM|
[quote] Where do you see that posted on this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 23, 2022 2:35 PM|
FOAD, R17. You are NOT welcome here.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 23, 2022 2:36 PM|
[quote] The government makes many decisions in the interest of child protection. Surely you are not against protecting children.
No, I’m against you Nazis suddenly decided that drag is inherently sexual and therefor is suddenly the major concern that you think justifies violence.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 23, 2022 2:37 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 23, 2022 2:40 PM|
R18 There is nothing in R8 that excuses anything.
R19 Another thread fascist heard from.
[quote] I’m against you Nazis suddenly decided that drag is inherently sexual and therefor is suddenly the major concern that you think justifies violence.
R20 Drag is inherently sexual. Look at drag queens. Exaggerated make-up and dress. Exaggerated sexuality is the essence of drag.
No one is justifying violence. No matter how many times you erroneously repeat otherwise
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 23, 2022 2:44 PM|
R12 R20 And for the third time I ask why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 23, 2022 2:46 PM|
I believe that’s the parents’ right to choose, not you.
I reject your premise that a man dressed in women’s clothing is automatically sexual. And believing so makes you a pervert.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 23, 2022 2:50 PM|
[quote] You know very well it's NOT about parental choice. Because no sensible, sane parent would expose their child to a highly sexualized drag show.
...how to say you've never gone to a drag show without saying you've never gone to a drag show
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 23, 2022 2:53 PM|
This isn’t about drag shows. It’s about these Nazis being able to control what other people do.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 23, 2022 2:54 PM|
[quote] And for the third time I ask why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
Tons of kids go to the drag shows in Ptown during family week. The drag queens know their audience and there are no sexual references or bad words.
The kids aren't damaged for life. Not even for an hour.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 23, 2022 2:54 PM|
[quote] Drag is inherently sexual. Look at drag queens. Exaggerated make-up and dress.
Wow, you're a freak
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 23, 2022 2:55 PM|
[quote] Nazi politics? Which one are those? Exactly?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 23, 2022 2:55 PM|
If you've been to a drag show or seen Rupauls drag race then you'd know not every thing is sexual. There is definitely an aspect that is sexual to some of it but many shows and routines arent at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 23, 2022 2:55 PM|
[quote] Perhaps OP and the rest of the posters outraged at the "right-wing" have completely forgotten (conveniently ignored?) that Club Q had a scheduled Drag Brunch for parents and CHILDREN the morning after the shooting
SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 23, 2022 2:56 PM|
Right wing fag getting his licks in:
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 23, 2022 2:56 PM|
Leave the muthafucken kids alone. I will cut the muthafucka who brings a muthafucken drag Queen into my child’s classroom.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 23, 2022 2:56 PM|
How sick do you have to be to come to a gay website and bad mouth other queer people? The anti trans, anti drag trolls here must be really unhappy people. The same people in the media who are saying trans/non binary people are mentally ill and dangerous would have said the same thing about GAY MEN 40 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 23, 2022 2:57 PM|
Russia's anti-gay laws are written as "Protect the children" laws. As if anything an LGBT person does will harm children.
The anti-drag troll on here is just spouting the same Russian talking points. Once those Russian laws were enacted, hate crimes against LGBT went up to record levels.
Of course, that was the point.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 23, 2022 2:59 PM|
R33 manages to be racist and homophobic in the same post (and not very funny).
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 23, 2022 2:59 PM|
[quote] The anti trans, anti drag trolls here must be really unhappy people.
They're getting paid
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 23, 2022 2:59 PM|
These are the exact same points that Fox News and Boebart keep pushing.
These trolls and they are connected.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 23, 2022 3:00 PM|
[quote] And for the third time I ask why do you believe children should be exposed to situations they are ill-equipped to handle?
Why should you be the sole arbiter of which situations children are or aren't equipped to handle? Why not let parents make that decision for themselves? If you don't think your child can handle a drag brunch, don't take them to one.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 23, 2022 3:01 PM|
Who the fuck would pay people to come post shit here? THIS ISN'T FACEBOOK. There is no big audience that they want to reach. Datalounge is basically the same 12 people posting over and over again. I know this since I am one of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 23, 2022 3:04 PM|
Stop grooming boys to be aggressive, brain-damaged, abusers. Take off that Tom Brady shirt and end football drag once and for all. You are not and never will be an athlete you fat fucking dick/cunt.
Outlaw women wearing pants, jeans, athletic wear, and all male clothing.
All cosmetics that alter appearance should be banned, the same with hair dye and high heels. Stop pretending to be who you are not. God hates all that gay shit. That's why you never hear of drag queen bible story brunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 23, 2022 3:14 PM|
God is fictional character you retard r41
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 23, 2022 3:16 PM|
Half of DL is at least this vicious towards trans people and the drag community. Most of you don't have guns, but your dehumanizing rhetoric is on ghastly display here every day.
How long until a deranged gay guy shoots up a drag brunch or a trans book club?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 23, 2022 3:18 PM|
Children are guileless until taught otherwise by experience or, for instance, by parents.
What YOU see and experience at a drag show and what THEY see and experience at a drag show are two separate things. I happen to find drag queens tedious; children apparently find them to be funny.
Unless children are being corralled and forced to watch these shows as opposed to experiencing them with their approving parents, what we onlookers think isn't pertinent.
I would save my concern for, say, children watching an adult making fun of a disabled person, and not a man dressing up as a woman.
Don't over analyze it. Children don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 23, 2022 3:19 PM|
R41, you are the retard. So rich!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 23, 2022 3:24 PM|
I’m pretty sure r41 is satire
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 23, 2022 3:25 PM|
As per Betty:
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 23, 2022 3:43 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 23, 2022 3:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 23, 2022 3:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 23, 2022 3:45 PM|
Perhaps stop by the Vatican's website next?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 23, 2022 3:45 PM|
Let's chat about Cons!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 23, 2022 3:46 PM|
BFFs with pedos!
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 23, 2022 3:47 PM|
Drag queens talk about sex the way politicians talk about thoughts and prayers and Christians talk about love. Everyone knows they’re full of it. Drag queens are in on the joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 23, 2022 7:39 PM|
r54 must be a drag queen.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 23, 2022 10:35 PM|
Cite your source, R54.
(excellent oped today from Lauren Hough, who's had it with your homophobic/transphobic horseshit)
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 23, 2022 10:42 PM|
I had completely forgotten about this
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 24, 2022 12:15 AM|
Um, R57? What in the everloving fuck does that song have to do with...ANYTHING in this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 24, 2022 12:22 AM|
Never mind, R57. "Gay bar", noted. My how clever you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 24, 2022 12:26 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 24, 2022 12:58 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 24, 2022 12:58 AM|
R43, remember that gay conservative that went on a tirade at a drag story hour and shortly after committed suicide? At least he had the decency to kill himself before he did anyone serious harm.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 24, 2022 1:48 AM|
[quote] Defense attorneys said late Tuesday that the suspect is nonbinary and in court filings referred to the suspect as “Mx. Aldrich.” The attorneys’ footnotes assert that Aldrich is nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns.
[quote]Prosecutor Michael Allen repeatedly referred to the suspect as “he” during a press briefing after the hearing and said the suspect’s gender status would not change anything about the case in his opinion. Allen said Aldrich was “physically competent” to stand charges.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 24, 2022 1:52 AM|
I hope the prosecutor is reprimanded. Imagine if anyone had called frail, lesbian Dana Rivers a he, all hell would break lose.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 24, 2022 1:54 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 24, 2022 2:16 AM|
This is where Trans Hate leads people, right to the bodies of LGBTQ people dead in a club or on the street, or in a movie theater, or in their own houses.
And MOTHERFUCKING MURIEL won't lift a finger to stop it spreading here no matter how abusive and vile those fucking Hags get. It's shameful for them to have the run of this website.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 24, 2022 2:25 AM|
R65, So fat and ugly. How he even worked up the strength to step out from the basement is a mystery.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 24, 2022 2:27 AM|
[quote]How sick do you have to be to come to a gay website and bad mouth [bold] other queer people[/bold]?
Datalounge is a gay website. Not "queer", and definitely not trans or non-binary. The TQ+ hangers-on obfuscate the definition of homosexuality (same-sex attraction) and weaken the rights gay men and women have fought for. LGB is about same-sex attraction. Trans and queer are about magical thinking — that lopping off healthy body parts or dying a blue streak in your hair will better align you with your sacred gender soul. If that's not insanity, I don't know what is.
Take your TQ+ shit and fuck right off this gay site, R34.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 24, 2022 2:28 AM|
[quote]R46: I’m pretty sure [R41] is satire
How can you tell?
Have you ever heard of Poe's Law?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 24, 2022 3:45 AM|
R66, it’s the TQs who are bringing down the gays.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 24, 2022 4:52 AM|
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!???!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 24, 2022 5:31 AM|
The anti-TQ troll fully approves of the “groomer” rhetoric that has made gay people the targets of deadly violence.
Don’t you, cunt?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 24, 2022 5:53 AM|
You know what else children aren’t prepared to deal with? Watching their friends get slaughtered in a classroom by some goddamned ammosexual.
It’s not gay people or drag queens traumatizing kids. It’s fucking active shooter drills and living in fucking FEAR OF BEING SHOT AT ANY TIME OR ANYWHERE!
THAT is what’s fucking traumatizing to kids!
Drag queens aren’t shooting up schools. Only “straight white males” do that shit! Take your lies, your hate, your pathetic fear and your fucking BULLSHIT and GTFO!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 24, 2022 7:17 AM|
[quote] You know what else children aren’t prepared to deal with? Watching their friends get slaughtered in a classroom
At least R73 acknowledges that children aren't prepared to deal with drag queens, in addition to the senseless anger and mindless violence that are an integral part of American culture. BOTH traumatize children and while children cannot be protected from America's random, mindless violence, they can be protected from situations that they are emotionally/mentally unprepared for.
The vast majority of parents are sensible enough to keep their children far away from drag shows. It is due to those parents who are less sensible that the government steps in to ensure the welfare of the children via a variety of child protection agencies and laws. Exactly because some parents don’t possess the wherewithal to make sensible decisions in the interest of their children that those children are exploited and subjected to traumatic situations that they never would have been had they responsible parents with a modicum of common sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 24, 2022 8:09 AM|
R6 That’s calling out bullshit “thoughts and prayers”, not that gays are pedos.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 24, 2022 8:10 AM|
They weren’t affected by dead first graders, why would suddenly care about the LGBTQ being gunned down? This is what they do. They know another story will come and no one will hold them responsible. They’ll just Hunter Biden their way out of doing anything productive and tangible to stop gun violence in this country. Their ok with us being an international embarrassment of gun crazed loons who will mow down anyone because we don’t like Mondays.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 24, 2022 8:30 AM|
[quote] They weren’t affected. This is what they do. They know another story. They’ll just Hunter Biden their way. Their (They're) ok with us
Americans are an angry, violent people. If "they" are the problem, then so are YOU with your angry scapegoating. The same anger that caused every one of America's shooters to walk into a public venue and start shooting.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 24, 2022 8:59 AM|
Oh for fuck sake, if that how you determine Americans are angry violent people, what say you about the millions that died in Europe during WW2? I guess everyone in the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Russia are angry violent people. Come back and talk shit about America when we pass the 20 million mark of people dead from violence in less than a 6 year period.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 24, 2022 9:17 AM|
Republicans (=at best situational psychopaths) will double, triple and quadruple down. There's no shame or conscience to appeal to.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 24, 2022 2:05 PM|
The only thing children or parents should fear when attending anything LGBTQ+ related is a shooter coming and killing them.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 24, 2022 2:06 PM|
We know who this troll is. There’s only one cunt who posts these right-wing talking points and then is astonished that we don’t buy into her nazi propaganda
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 24, 2022 2:07 PM|
[R68] Fuck all the way of, you loathsome, fascist quisling. How despicable you must be to regurgitate this recycled homophobia now against trans people. Many of whose shoulders you stand on. And how deluded you must be to think this pick-me allying with situational sociopaths will mean you're safe in the long wrong. Disgusting beyond belief.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 24, 2022 4:14 PM|
[quote] Oh for fuck sake, if that how you determine Americans are angry violent people
R78 The daily assalts, attacks and murders that occur in the US as a matter of course happen no where else in the world. Angry, violent Americans spend every single minute of every single day assaulting one another, preying on one another, shooting one another, and walking into public venues, opening fire and murdering as many as they can. War is not an indication of a culture's inability to internally control itself.
That same rage can be seen in your and just about every other post on this thread. It's exactly that uncontrolled rage that compelled Aldrich to murder 5 and wound 18.
It might help to remember that in the few minutes it took me to type the above, 10 people were shot dead somewhere in America.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 24, 2022 4:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 24, 2022 4:29 PM|
Correction R83 assaUlts
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 24, 2022 4:35 PM|
American anti-wokists have a new goal.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 24, 2022 4:45 PM|