Axios: Alleged Colorado Springs Shooter is NonBinary

What fuckery is this.

Grampa's a MAGAt politico, Mom's a gun nut whore, Dad's an actual porn whore and meth addict; he's obese and can't get laid = instant Enby!

He's depraved on account 'a he's deprived.

Genius move by the attorneys to potentially have their client avoid conviction on hate crime charges

It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

So what if he's NonDairy?

This video misgenders Them!!

So the same strain of insufferable as the commenters complaining to Muriel that there aren't enough threads getting deleted...

He is so fat, you must refer to him in plural.

He is, however, pro-cheesecake.

It worked for Dana Rivers, r3

[quote] Genius move by the attorneys to potentially have their client avoid conviction on hate crime charges

It won't work.

I look forward to a parade of courtroom caftans.

It's a jealousy crime committed by a raging jealous, obese incel who couldn't pick up guys in there. And I bet he's a Call of Duty addict too.

R11, it might help lessen the sentence because they/them can't be accused of a hate crime since they/them is a part of the LGBT community.

Many transgenders do come from conservative backgrounds. Looks like that is what happened in this case.

Funny. His crazy military style macho ranting in OP's video where he says, "This is your boy..." doesn't sound very nonbinary....

R11 the other reason a nonbinary identity will help is the media will likely drop coverage of this case quickly.

The prosecution will be sure to include the complete and total lack of evidence of this psycho being nonbinary, and point out that he and his defense attorneys were just making it up in an attempt to avoid hate crime charges.

To repeat R11...It won't work.

R18, exactly. Only the gullible would be fooled by such an obvious ploy.

If he had shot up a black church he'd walk into court with blackface.

Was they/them a regular at the bar?

Not really a viable defense against hate crime laws. If he didn't feel accepted by the community that may be a motive for why he targeted them. He hated LGBT because he didn't fit in or felt slighted.

Maybe they was interested in someone at the bar and was rejected by them.

Why that's a great big wet kiss YES R22 troll! He was a regular! Always shooting his mouth off!

This is one reason why self-ID is a terrible idea.

When they pierced their ears gravy came out! They thighs have gone condo! I asked them what then wanted on thems hamburger them said a hotdog!

Aldrich puts mayonnaise on an aspirin.

He is CLAIMING to be NonBinary so he can skip Federal Hate Crime charges. This reeks of Legal Bullshittery....I am not buying it.

Didn’t he legally change his name at one point…& that was how he could buy a gun despite having been arrested for making a bomb threat…?

If he grows his hair to shoulder length Anderson can legally compete in womens sports----Lia from Pennsylvania

He's never getting out of prison. He'll find out how nonbinary he is.

Why do these people do this? Did she he whatever want attention from daddy?

How many other no hope fuckwits are we going to have to deal with before a mass response of prevention?

Maybe this is part of the reason they/them changed their name as a teenager from Nicholas Franklin to the more gender neutral Anderson Lee.

Natalee Bingham, who was in the club when it happened, and is an actual transperson was just asked about the suspect claiming to be nonbinary on CNN. She/they didn't believe it, rolled their eyes, said it was offensive and said, "Why would you do that to a place you feel comfortable in?" The story isn't playing already.

R35, it's a story as old as time. Jealousy of someone in the bar.

This just in: Lying liar lies.

There's no jealousy. The "nonbinary" mass shooter is a lie, fuckface.

R35 Only because it doesn’t fit with the pre-arranged narrative. It’s kind of hard to blame “the right” etc. when it’s one of your own.

Really, nice right wing talking points.

NonBinary is the same thing as transgenderism: a mental illness.

Pre-arranged? Ask Lauren Boebert about her hate filled anti-gay/trans/etc deleted texts if you want pre-arranged. R39 troll.

I believe the shooter!

Mass murderers never lie!

I'm taking him to Congress!

Oh, I'M SO, SOOO SORRY. I'm taking THEY/THEM to Congress!

Wasn't he all faggot this and faggot that?

I don’t believe it.

Ummmmmmm. Duh.

But it doesn't have green hair or a nose ring.

Of course! You just knew the murderer was one of those freaks.

Gays, stay away from the mentally ill. Nothing good can come out of it.

Sad trolling, Really.

R42 Just because someone points something out doesn’t mean that they subscribe to that viewpoint. It also doesn’t make someone a troll to point out contradictions and problems with messaging in the media, especially when they want/require a simple, easily digestible story where it’s clear who is bad and who is good.

LGBTQ club shooting suspect’s troubled past was obscured by a name change, records show

Yes, and this happens with Ts who commit crimes as well. This case is really revealing the rotting core of the T movement.

Thanks ever so for transplaining.

Details of Court papers obtained by NYT reporter

You're welcome.

You're on a transroll R54. You believe the killers lawyers. Good for you.

Fits right in with conservative propaganda.

"We need to respect everyone's pronouns." Gay nightclub shooter, "I'm nonbinary." "Except you!!!"

And it’s Mx. Anderson Aldrich

Something's going to break over this, just not sure what yet.

We're all on board the fuckery express. choochoo 😐

Grasping at Boeberts trans straws. What a surprise.

The shooter also said he identifies as a cat and want a catbox in his jail cell!

Seems like they've been getting rid of the worst of the worst trolls lately, yet here r51 is, still stinking the place up. Didn't Oracle try to pretend to be a normal person for a while?

5 people shot dead and an additional 19 wounded in an obvious hate crime and conservatives try to change the narrative. What a surprise.

Look what they did with Paul Pelosi.

It's such a surprise that Anderson's granpappy in the GOP paid for attorneys who immediately announced that their defense is "he a trannie, maw, that's why he done shot that trannie groomin' place up."

Also a huge surprise that the resident trolls are happy to spread the word.

BLAME THE VICTIMS.

Denying the shooter's non-binary status is literal violence, bigots!

R66: but the non-binary bit comes from court filings, discovered and reported by NYT

It’s not the doing of the conservatives or their media

Making America Great Again through nonstop psychological warfare and random terrorist attacks.

Unexpected, but in my theory wheelhouse.

My PLOT TWIST prediction is that as a GREAT BIG FAT PERSON no one in the club would fuck *them* so *they* raged out.

An Emby Incel! Who knew.

Just his conservative handlers. Who else can he blame but those damn gays.

I'm innocent and will not stop until I find the real killer.

Gays, just stay away from the 'queer' bars. Nothing good can come from it. The TQs are now shooting each other.

Actually, I don't need to say that, we do that anyway. We make our own parties with carefully selected guest lists.

He’s being charged in court papers as The State vs. Mx. Anderson Aldrich. What the fuck is an Mx?

Stay in the closet or we'll kill you.

Everyone is invited The World Cup! Except....

This turd isn't nonbinary. His mommie dearest referred to him as her son in a fb post meant to absolve her of responsibility in the aftermath of the shooting (she knew he was doing).

He repeatedly calls himself male in videos.

This is psychological warfare.

It's classic Republican talking points.

Conservative gaslighting. So easy to lie. All you have to do is open your mouth.

R80, they/them Anderson wasn't out to mom.

^WHERE'S THE PROOF?

If you believe in the pronoun game for some people then you have to accept it for all people.

Funny how SUDDENLY dainty conservatives R83 are about the nonbinary...

Will be expecting all the woke media outlets to use the they/them pronouns. That will dampen the normies are evil narrative.

I DON'T KNOW HER.

It worked for me!

"Swallow the lie". R85

It's just "a game" to R85. That says everything.

Well, guess what Magats!?

There's a whole bunch of people who neither hate gender identity nor embrace gender identity. We're just waiting for the fuckery to end. Nice try with the ol' switcheroo, though!

Grease fire, etc.

Nope

According to DL, the media were withholding his identity because he was a black trans disabled immigrant sex worker from Iran by way of North Korea. The media needed to protect his woke identity. If he were white, surely that would have been the lede in every article on this subject from the lame stream media.

Lo and behold he’s a fatass white incel.

They're usually white incels but they do vary between obese and stickman, tbh.

And according to libland, R94, the shooter is clearly a bible thumping Christian who shot up a gay club because Trump was allowed back on Twitter and Lauren Boebert said some dumb shit.

This is why it’s fun to wait for facts. Could be the case he’s a wingnut, but my hunch was some inside drama. It’s like when that dude rammed into those gay guys outside that black club at like 60mph. It was personal.

Now we know he’s a stunning Enby, so who knows what twist will come next.

What shit. "Libland"? Go fuck yourself.

[quote]Was they/them a regular at the bar?

You know, aside from revealing your obvious transphobia and rejection of folks who use they/them as their pronouns, you also just sound dumb. It's WERE they/them.

You should have learned that by 3rd grade.

There's already a shit ton of facts, asshole R96.

Of course he's nonbinary, he identifies as Dolly Madison.

And what are the FACTS, R99?

Because there has been no posted motive. None. Zilch.

All we have now is their attorneys have filed that they are Non-Binary. That’s a fact. Everything else in this about them is conjecture.

If he’s nonbinary I’m 130 pounds with a lake house. And my dicks 10 inches.

[quote]Maybe this is part of the reason they/them changed their name as a teenager from Nicholas Franklin to the more gender neutral Anderson Lee.

Are you joking, R34? Anderson is a masculine name. It literally means “son of Anders.” I can’t think of any feminine first names with “son” as a suffix, but correct me if I’m wrong.

[quote]If he’s nonbinary I’m 130 pounds with a lake house. And my dicks 10 inches

Whoaaa. 😮. Does that make you fall over a lot? Being so light but front loaded? Do you get dizzy when it's hard, because that's probably like 25% of your blood? And why did you choose a lake house?

We know all about the suspect and his background. Gun obsessed MAGA Republican family and an unhinged kid who screams about" faggots". It's all known. The only thing NOT known is the claim he's nonbinary. And that's stinks of conservative shit, like you R101.

There are plenty of people - especially trannies - who grew up in conservative families and rebelled. Why do you think there are so many black trannies? Grew up in homophobic environments.

I am aware his family are a bunch of conservacunts.

But those are not facts about the motive. You’re shouting out hypotheses, but they are not FACTS.

All kids have AR-15's with no traceable serial numbers.

It’s not that unusual for a T or Q to call someone they don’t like a faggot.

[quote]The prosecution will be sure to include the complete and total lack of evidence of this psycho being nonbinary, and point out that he and his defense attorneys were just making it up in an attempt to avoid hate crime charges.

Um… I’m not defending this loser, but I just want to remind you that anyone can come out as trans or non-binary at any time, and they don’t have to change a thing about themselves in order to be respected for who they really are. And it’s no one’s place to question them.

And a non-binary person doesn’t owe anyone androgyny or gender dysphoria OR any kind of stereotypical gendered presentation/expression. They don’t have to do *anything* different from what they’d been doing.

Sorry, I didn’t make the rules.

Exactly, R108. I couldn’t believe no one had brought that up yet.

He/she/they/it is basically Dawn Davenport without the filthy glamour.

I hope they fry they/s/h/it.

So many excuses for the poor, poor mass murderer, who dresses up in macho tactical military gear, screaming military jargon and livestreams his Police takedown on Facebook. He wore the same body armor during his killing spree. Nonbinary......riiiight.....if HE and YOU say so.....

Not excusing them. Going by what is verifiable in this scenario and what was presented in a court document. Do we even have a mugshot yet?

They’re a murderer. No excuses. But facts are facts, and conjecture is conjecture.

I have a co worker who fucks men and went from she/her to she/they to they/them in the span of 4 months and now says they are trans. That’s how this non-binary “trans” shit is now. NB might be bullshit lawyerly tricks on this killer’s part, might be a true piece to the puzzle as to why this place and why now?

Does it KILL YOU to wait for some facts or do you just need to go for political points asap?

Next thing you know, people will suddenly I.D. as gay or bisexual when it’s beneficial so they can ride on a powerful and successful lesbian’s coat-tails in order to further their career.

"They're" a murderer. How NICE of you.

Say what you will. I think we should all bow down and kiss the asshole of Miss Andi Lee Aldrich, our Lady of Death, for honoring Trans Awareness Day with their bouquet of bullets into the backs of the LGBTQ.

Non-binary is very much a concept approved as legit and valid, promoted and pushed by the democrats/Biden admin/supporters.

They created the legit passports with the gender marker X (not M or F) for the non-binaries.

Why should we be forced to accept (otherwise get automatically called as nothing but 'rightwing anti-trans/transphobe' and thrown with homophobic, racist slurs, threats, violence) Richard/Rachel Levine types as what they say, "women" or that nuclear expert "genderfluid (not a man or a woman) they/they" Brinton... but not this one?

Same conditions. Only when it's not convenient, the same types and same logic magically become "Not real!"

They will spin it as always I've already seen it "he's lying" umm didn't you say one can identify as anything at anytime and change whenever and if you don't agree you are a bigot.

Starting right now, any hate crime that is perpetrated against gay men and lesbians will be nullified by 4 words:

I Am Non Binary

Thank you R117, for sucking my shenis. Did it taste like tuna?

The NHL has weighed in and said Non-binary is real.

[quote] Lo and behold he’s a fatass white incel.

Of course. But not a white incel man but a white incel 'LGBTQ+ person'.

Anyway, haven't we established that one is born this way regarding homosexuality / same-sex attraction? (Otherwise it is a choice and one can be converted to choose another proper lifestyle) If one has rightwing parents, grandparents, one cannot be gay?

Likewise, trans/non-binary/supporters/mainstream media & institions have screamed the same logic for years: One is born this way. Born in the wrong body. Etc. So why deny someone's self-claimed identity when that comes from your hated party? Born this way, not according to partisan logic?

It's trollception in here, lol.

All those NHL players must be shooting up Walmart right now.

Mental illness seems to be a primary theme to the story.

[quote] will be nullified by 4 words: I Am Non Binary

Oh, them dear

If a trans or non-binary person “detransitions,” does that mean they were trans once, but now they’re “cis”, or does it mean that they always were “cis” but mistakenly thought they were trans? Does the same go for people (typically women) who’ve fluctuated between gay, bi, and straight?

They call themselves by many names. One is "DeFacto".

Either/or, R126. I’ve heard of both scenarios happening and being valid.

For what it’s worth I think it’s all fucking retarded, non binary isn’t real but a status for attention whores. But like someone else said, I didn’t make the rules.

I just sit back and wait for info because usually it’s not whatever the political types like to spin it as ASAP. My hunch it was personal, like my hunch with the Chicago black gay bar hit and run was personal. People immediately said that was a hate crime against LGBTQ+ of color!!!! but then it turned out it was a ghetto bar fight where one of them drove into the others (now that bar is only for 30+!).

Just wait. I bet he does self-ID as non binary and it was some personal shit with someone or something with the bar.

fin.

R6, he seems autistic

Just wait. I bet he does self-ID as black, and it was some personal black shit with someone black or something black with the black bar.

He/they looks exactly like other non-binary persons that have been validated in the mainstream (left): fat, ugly, mostly white. He/they fit right in.

k R132

A more recent example of people jumping to conclusions…

r134 that's funny because someone on Twitter made a popular joke tweet about them throwing like a gay man.

Jumping to conclusions is believing that asshole is nonbinary.

R135 I know, and then this was one of the top tweets…

This is why I’m always skeptical and always wait for facts. I’m curious what made this fucker shoot up a bar but I’m not going to say it’s all Matt Walsh’s fault or some other non-sequitir.

Scotland is currently introducing self ID laws (one of the reasons JKR has been spoken out) and the politicians supporting the law say there is no evidence of anyone manipulating the system despite 50% of trans prisoners becoming trans on entering the prison system.

Remember when a woman accused Ezra Miller of attacking her and American journalists re-wrote the woman’s testimony from ‘he put his hands around my neck’ to ‘they put their hands around my neck’ because Miller is ‘non binary’ and Miller’s alleged victim had misgendered Miller?

That’s the rules. If this murderer says he is non binary he is non binary.

Are those the defacto rules?

^^ Someone’s living rent free in your head, I see

R132 I think Dave Chappelle pointed out the difference between LGBT identity and black identity; there’s no comparison because you can’t waver between being different races and expect everyone to accept who you “feel” you are if your skin doesn’t match your identity. That’s why Rachel Dolezal will never be on the cover of Ebony as “Woman of the Year.”

Irony is dead, like those 5 LGBTQs.

Chappelle’s joke was about Eminem, wasn’t it? Eminem goes to the BET Awards and wins N- - - - r Of The Year.

LGBA was attacked for saying LGB people send their support to those affected by the shooting. Just because they didn't include the T. Aapparently there was a T amongst those shot, but how were they supposed to know? Besides, it's not like they purposefully left out the T. Others twisted their words. Anyways, they were attacked, even though they did nothing wrong. Wonder what the TQ+ cult thinks now that one of their own was the shooter. The gays have been saying for years that we need to drop the TQ+ because they are crazy and we have nothing in common with them. In fact the TQ+ cult hate us, they spit on us and call us faggots.

Enbys hate gays so it's totally believable.

R143 He also did a joke about a Chinese man trapped in a black man’s body…supposedly Dave’s Filipina wife hated that joke. No sex for him THAT night.

I'm sure he wasn't entrenched in republican MAGA state assembly conservatism filled with rage, guns, military roleplaying, a Jan 6th celebrating grandfather and loving parents who aren't burned out meth whores. It was all the gays fault.

[Quote] American journalists re-wrote the woman’s testimony from ‘he put his hands around my neck’ to ‘they put their hands around my neck’ because Miller is ‘non binary’ and Miller’s alleged victim had misgendered Miller?

[Quote] That’s the rules. If this murderer says he is non binary he is non binary.

R138 Exactly. Same zealous people (media, those on the right side of history, self-claimed lgbtqia+ people and allies, legit big influential orgs, etc.) have violently, obsessively re-written victims' stories when the perps pronouns do not match their birth/real sex. Same zealous people have militantly screamed that 'misgendering' is not just a hatecrime but worse, 'anti-LGBTQIA+ hate crime'.

They (not 'terfs' or sane people) have created this they/them murderer and because of what they have established as 'right side of history', this murderer is they/them nonbinary.

And all this time I though shooting 5 people in the back was a crime.

[quote] For what it’s worth I think it’s all fucking retarded, non binary isn’t real but a status for attention whores.

Um, did you not listen to the NHL?

Yes, and now queens all over Twitter are falling over themselves with apologetic tweets because some hideous drag thing claims the 'drag queen' who stomped on fatty murderer was a "trans woman," not a drag queen! Probably named Marsha!

How dare we/ze/they/them/it?

Is DL fave Sidney Crosby going to come out as non-binary this season?

Are the 5 still dead? I didn't do it, for once. It was her. I mean them. It was Andi.

If Denny’s has a non-binary menu, I’ll come out as non-binary.

girl's names that end in Son

Alison Madison

Madison is nonbinary. His dick is dead. But he can still function sexually as a woman.

Thanks R155. Still, I’ve never heard of a girl named “Anderson.”

I think he's just an involuntarily celibate asshole. Whatever it is, it is a monstrous murderer. That's all that should matter.

[quote]girl's names that end in Son Alison Madison

Also Grayson and Addison.

Question: if a gay club only catered to gays, as in gay men, would that be illegal? Are any such clubs left, or are they all LGBTQ+ now?

R160 I don’t know if it’s illegal; there are gyms that cater only to women, for instance. That said, have there ever been gay men’s clubs that excluded women in the past?

I'm not r160 but 'normal' gay clubs catering to gay men had existed fine until mainstream lgbtqia+ cult took off.

They didn't exactly exclude women (but women knew their places as guests) but most inside were real men looking for other real men (& atmospheres/cultures were dominantly for normal gays/men).

It's what I thought of when I heard the name 'gay nightclub' but well it's not, but for *all kinds* of gender identity *folx/humans*

Also, this place is a drag club, so of course it’s open to all. A drag club catering only to gay men would not be very successful.

If it turns out that the killer was trans and somehow had some weird non-homophobic/transphobic reason to target this bar, I just want to say, I still think that libsoftiktok lady is awful.

This is backfiring spectacularly.

No one is buying it.

R151: yes Ms Del Lusional is setting the record hmm straight

[quote]He's never getting out of prison. He'll find out how nonbinary he is.

...When he gets sent to a women's prison.

Word

Deeply felt apology

He’s being charged with murder. The hate crime addition wouldn’t really do anything but send a message. It’s not a harsher sentence with it. He’s going to jail.

NYT reporter wants to know how to repent and amend

But did NYT, etc. repent and amend their hatecrime of calling they as he all along?

Big win fro non-binary visibility

Not buying this cheap stunt by the haters. Quite a few haters here btw. There were plenty of non-trans victims as well. The petty bickering over who is the biggest victim group only benefits our enemies.

[quote] Mental illness seems to be a primary theme to the story.

Always the case with TQ+.

On what date and who created this Pronoun bullshit ????

[quote]I think he's just an involuntarily celibate asshole

Most NBs are.

The guy isn't trans or nonbinary and this was absolutely a hate crime.

I called it on the first part: There was a chance the media and certain politicians were going to try to change the narrative and make this into anything but a hate crime, just like they did with the Pulse Nightclub massacre, where they wanted us to believe that the murderer just happened to pick a gay bar and it had nothing to do with homophobia. Of course it did, but that's not the official story.

Something similar happened in Vegas with that massacre that's the worst mass shooting in U.S. history and yet somehow got swept under the rug. They were so good about changing the narrative that we don't even HAVE a narrative for it. No one knows why it happened. Nearly 60 people murdered, 550 people injured, no one has any idea what happened and, frankly, no one cares.

The defense in this case knows this and is taking advantage. It's not about whether you or I believe their story, it's all being done for the media's benefit, and now the media have to make a choice: deny this guy's claims to his identity, or go with the more interesting story that also helps make this NOT be a hate crime? Of course they'll choose the latter.

This story will mostly disappear by next Monday. That's what everyone wants.

Some incel shoots up a club and is obviously fucking crazy. Does it matter that this person is non-binary? Nope. Anyone can pull a trigger.

Of course it’ll disappear. The Four Dead In Idaho are way more interesting. Was anyone in this shooting even remotely attractive?? There isn’t even any mystery to it.

To those who are calling bullshit on his claim to be non-binary, I agree with you. However, many of you seem to be making an exception, so that everyone else's claimed gender identity must be respected, just not this killer. Personally, I'm going to call bullshit on the whole thing, from "Elliot" Page on down.

Also, I have no sympathy for the killer (duh) and am a big believer in the death penalty for cases like this, but am I the only one who finds the so-called trans woman's stomping his face with a stiletto (and the celebration of this online) somewhat brutal? If it's the only way of subduing someone, then fine (of course), but otherwise it is not a typical response by a crowd member and not something to be celebrated.

They may be trolls but his lawyers are coming out of this like geniuses (assuming the NB claim is BS) as the mainstream media cannot use correct-sex pronouns for the killer without looking like massive hypocrites. Yes, this will cause coverage to fade. Evil move, but a clever one.

The fact that he appears to be a weeaboo makes the non-binary claim more believable.

Can anyone verify “Del Lusional”’s account? Have they even named the drag queen?

Oh, they're bringing in the ol' "he was bullied" argument, too? Wow, there is a HUGE push to get this filed away as not a hate crime but a tragedy committed by a poor kid who was really a victim, too, if you think about it.

Fucking bullshit. Everyone should be enormously concerned about how this case is playing out in the media, but it's a holiday week and everyone is just going to shrug it off.

How is it "conservative propaganda," R59, if the killer himself claims to be non-binary? He obviously was ridiculed and/or rejected by someone at the bar and this was his revenge.

Wow, surprising reporting from Ben Collins there at R183.

Collins lurks at all the sites he publicly disavows and steals info the trolls have already gathered. He’s a hack and a hypocrite.

[quote]but am I the only one who finds the so-called trans woman's stomping his face with a stiletto (and the celebration of this online) somewhat brutal?

R181 Oh no, the poor poor killer that specifically went to a gay club to kill members of the LGBT community got his face stomped!

How cruel!

How brutal!

Get blocked cunt.

I cannot believe someone is complaining that a murderer was stopped from killing others in a way that wasn't polite enough.

The fucking state of Datalounge these days.

Oh, r181 is the guy who infamously complained about racist slurs being "censored" on here, occasionally. It's in the "Black women are the absolute worst" thread. No surprise, then. Psychopathic rightwing sludge, serving no useful purpose in life. Sad, really.

R190 "Someone" lol. I don't have the energy to check all these paste sniffers post histories but I'm pretty sure what I'm gonna find if I do.

These are "grown" ass "men" doing the usual rightoid propaganda game. FF and block these cunts already.

Trust me r192, this particular choad was blocked long ago, but I saw r189's post with the link to r181's comment and was pretty shocked by it.

If I'd just checked to see who it was BEFORE commenting, I wouldn't have been shocked, this is true. It's hard to remember to do that sometimes. Trolldar was easier!

Well, THAT'S what our tax money pays them for. Public defenders really are the fry cooks of legal representation.

The nonbinary label is being used (madeup)to distract you, this person and his family are magats

What R179 says. This isn't about identities and sexual persuasions. Its about GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS and poorly socialized people turning into hopeless soulless lawless violent SOCIOPATHS

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R192 UGH. I just don't get why people even respond. It's so obvious.

r195 ALL the nonbinaries (actually most trannies too) are "made-up", whether they're magats or your beloved party comrades.

[quote] The guy isn't trans or nonbinary

r178 So are all the other self-claimed trannies and non binaries.

[quote] R6, he seems autistic

r131 What percentage of NBs are just "able-bodied"? Most NBs identities also include "autistic", *neuro-divergent*, hence "disabled" (mentally, I guess), and so on.

R190, I specifically said that I was not talking about appropriate methods of subduing him because, to make the implicit explicit for the benefit of the mentally challenged, any means are acceptable in subduing a live shooter. Clearly. Meting out crowd justice, however, is not always seen in these scenes.

R191, how often do you refer to that thread? Do you have any life apart from scrolling through this website?

Whoa whoa. Misgendering is a crime!

[quote] This isn't about identities and sexual persuasions.

It is, though. It's a hate crime. Yes absolutely it's about guns, but it's also about identities because it's a hate crime.

[quote] Some incel shoots up a club and is obviously fucking crazy. [bold]Does it matter[/bold] that [bold]victims / clubs are gay / lgbt? Nope. Anyone / any club[/bold] can be gun violence victims.

r179 What you said out loud is also this ^

r203 He knows. Desperately trying to bury that part by screaming the cult chant x1000.

My guess is they'll find out the killer is psychotically angry with his absentee (and gay porn actor) dad, and took his rage out on innocent people.

This shooting was a horrific tragedy and the perpetrator should die in prison. That said, how shocking that a troubled youth with striking personality issues is seemingly misappropriating an LGBTQ+ identity for purposes of manipulation, special pleading and evasion of consequences. That never happens these days.

r67…a couple months ago, at lunch with a couple coworkers, a young woman fresh out of college who identifies as “queer,” said that she believed Nancy Pelosi should be shot. I was aghast. I asked her why she thinks Pelosi should be shot & she said she’s old, she’s blocking progressives & she tries to work with republicans.

I told her that I don’t believe in violence. She said she does. I asked her in what scenarios is violence acceptable, & she said, “punching nazis.” I was shell shocked & stopped talking.

Back at the office, I ran into the only other gay guy I know at work. We are friends. I took him aside & confided to him what this chick said. He was totally freaked out & told our boss who told his boss. The queer chick still has a job with us but I stay the hell away from her. I’m twice her age…so I’m old. I’m also “cis.” Plus if I openly disagree with her, she’ll identify me as a nazi & worthy of violence.

I’m in my 50s. I miss the 20th century. Yes, it was a bloody & violent century. But the prevailing vibe among cool people was peace & love. We also had the successes of Gandhi & Dr. King.

These kids today have been brainwashed by trolls. They follow online trends rather than direct them. I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know what it is not…violence is never a solution. We need to make non-violence cool again.

[quote]The nonbinary label is being used (madeup)to distract you, this person and his family are magats

Sorry but you're a TERF for suggesting violent and predatory men would falsely identify as trans or non binary for personal gain.

They is NB. I’m sad so many of you are trying to erase their identity. Please respect the person’s identity you rightward lunatics.

He changed his name to something unisex. He doesn’t look very masculine or feminine. NB seems to make sense to me.

No true non-binary fallacy.

Duh.

So do we send they-thems to men's or women's prisons? How does that work? Maybe they should start putting a non-binary prison in every state as to not offend people.

Don’t tell me They is probably going to choose female prison.

Male criminal identifies as trans to get into women's prison or women's sports: "No one would EVER fake being trans!!!"

Male criminal identifies as trans to get out of hate-crime charges: "Can't you see this cis man is LYING???"

The hypocrisy and misogyny of the Left on this issue is infuriating.

So a very fat, very ugly they-them who probably wouldn't be hit on by the most desperate old man on Grindr grows up in a MAGA family who probably preached to him about how trannies and fags were "evil groomers who will burn in Hell." What an interesting story. It's no wonder he became a shooter.

There's such a huge difference between saying "punch Nazis" and saying we should execute the sitting Speaker of the House that I cannot believe anything r208 says.

He was merely taken aback by someone wanting Pelosi murdered, but "shell-shocked" into complete silence when the same person said they wanted to punch Nazis.

Punching Nazis is fine. That shouldn't shock you MORE than the suggestion that we execute Nancy Pelosi.

[quote]He changed his name to something unisex.

"Anderson Lee" is not unisex and I wish you idiots would stop saying it is.

It makes me think of when Pamela Anderson was married to Tommy Lee and used the name "Pamela Anderson Lee" for a while.

Heh, that's probably where he got the new name from, R220.

Have Xir’s attorneys deployed the autism defense yet?

That guy that won the beauty pageant for women is named fucking Bryan, he didn't even pretend to have a female name, so yeah, why not?

r218:

[quote][bold]a·ghast[/bold]

[quote]/əˈɡast/

[quote][italic]adjective[/italic]

[quote] 1. filled with horror or shock."when the news came out they were aghast"

You can cherry pick semantics all you want…I really don’t care if you believe my factual anecdote. There was another coworker there, so I have a witness. Queer Chick never indicated that she didn’t mean it or was kidding. She would have to admit she said it, if asked, because at least two people heard her (we were in a crowded restaurant). She actually said more than just that.

I told friends & family about it & most people chalk it up to youth & immaturity. But one older relative, a Trump hater, wanted me to report Queer Chick to the police!

“Punching nazis” is NOT fine …it’s actually a total Nazi move.

How do you know who is & who is not a Nazi? Are they wearing a swastika? Are they anti-Semitic? Or do they just disagree with you about…[italic]something[/italic]? Does their world view not fit your agenda?

Oh, the irony. The people who want to “punch nazis” are actually… nazis. 🙄

r218:

[quote][bold]a·ghast[/bold]

[quote]/əˈɡast/

[italic]adjective[/italic]

[quote] 1. filled with horror or shock."when the news came out they were aghast"

You can cherry pick semantics all you want…I really don’t care if you believe my factual anecdote. There was another coworker there, so I have a witness. Queer Chick never indicated that she didn’t mean it or was kidding. She would have to admit she said it, if asked, because at least two people heard her (we were in a crowded restaurant). She actually said more than just that.

I told friends & family about it & most people chalk it up to youth & immaturity. But one older relative, a Trump hater, wanted me to report Queer Chick to the police!

“Punching nazis” is NOT fine …it’s actually a total Nazi move.

How do you know who is & who is not a Nazi? Are they wearing a swastika? Are they anti-Semitic? Or do they just disagree with you about…[italic]something[/italic]? Does their world view not fit your agenda?

Oh, the irony. The people who want to “punch nazis” are actually… nazis. 🙄

They is no Ezra Miller, but it has really been working for them (EM).

R208, your story was obviously true. Christ, who DOESN’T know a person like the young woman you described?

This kind of horrid crime really does unearth the nutbags. It's liked picking up a rock and bunch of dung beetles and worms crawl into the sun.

All the news outlets are calling the shooter HIM. And when he appeared in court this morning, he looked like a man. Well, well.

Not the NYTimes. They bravely abide.

Corporate media is complicit in the erosion of American democracy, they just don't wanna do this democracy thing anymore.

Nobody cares what pronouns this cunt uses.

Here they are in court.

Purr little Betty Anderson!

Everyone who refuses to use this (evil, disgusting, vile) murderer's claimed pronouns can fuck off the next time I call Ellen Page "she".

[quote]Here they are in court.

They just needed an injection of LIQUID EYELINER!

Thank my meth pron god he ain't no f@g!

It was so nice to see Andi wearing a lovely orange Nolan Miller knock off in court today. THEY looked so lovely. THEY should be held in the highest esteem. THEY have been through so much, getting heels in the face, and unkind comments about THEIR carefully constructed ensemble. How dare anyone question THEIR commitment to being THEMSELVES. Shame on the gays who don't believe this lovely THEM is what THEY has always meant to be. Kisses!

Charge his asshole father too.

Was THEIR short hair look in court today a nod to Demi in GI JANE? I'm going to beat the shit out of THEM!

Isn't there some kind of law that a defendant can't appear in court unconscious? That fatty's knocked out.

It’s fucking hilarious seeing the knots the “everyone’s pronouns MUST be respected” crowd are tying themselves in trying to deny this killer’s stated pronouns and identity while trying not to seem hypocritical! 🤣

OF COURSE it’s all bullshit, we all know that but this is the rule YOU made!

If we have to accept and respect who people say they are then this guy IS non-binary and his pronouns are they/them. Tough shit if it’s inconvenient!

On the other hand, everyone could just admit what a farce all this gender identity shit is and go back to being sane again!

SUCH a dilemma! 🤣

R229, all nonbinaries look like their actual sex, nonbinary they/them Sam Smith for example.

Transwomen also look like their actual sex.

If this Anderson kid hates the queers so much then why does he want the whole world to think he's one too?

THEY look like baby Rush Limbaugh. Was Rush nonbinary?

Its not a dilemma, its bullshit. Why are you people obsessed with the alleged self identification of the mass killer and ignoring grandpa being a magat who cheered on January 6.

Rush was a lovely bigot who loved hating and loved spreading hate. That's why I honored him.

R246 Maybe it’s because the mass killer shot people at a club and the asshole grandfather didn’t? Just a thought but please keep moving the goalposts, it’s fun!

whaaddya mean move goalposts. J6 is a terrorist attack as is this mass shooting.

MSNBC has been They/Theming their hearts out this morning. After several days of coverage, and the rending of garments, what else could they do?

R249 You’d rather people look at the killer’s grandfather than the killer theyself! The killer’s self-identity isn’t something that’s irrelevant to the case here. If you find it troubling or inconvenient to have to respect that this multiple murderer is a stated non-binary then that’s tough. Annoying isn’t it when you have to play by your own rules!

We're in love!

Why, cause they is fat and white and own a gun?

[quote]If you find it troubling or inconvenient to have to respect that this multiple murderer is a stated non-binary then that’s tough.

When did he first label himself non-binary, r251?

The minute his Hard Right Republican grandfather paid his attorneys to say so.

R254 It doesn’t matter. Rule #1 of Gender Ideology states that a person IS who they say they are and their identity must be respected.

According to his friend, Aldrich hated the LGBT community and never referred to himself as non-binary before the shooting.

Little shit's just trying to duck the hate crime charges.

Is that the defacto rule?

R257 Of course he is, we ALL know that, which is why it’s funny seeing people who usually defend someone’s right to self identity tripping themselves up over this one! 😁

This is the shooter's dad who was just interviewed. It's probably the most twisted thing I've ever seen on camera

He's your typical out of THEIR mind Republican. And NO GAY! Phew!

He's a barely walking meth pipe.

Daddy?

He's going to be my running mate!

"Little shit's just trying to duck the hate crime charges."

Correct. So, can we all just admit that JK Rowling and the other radfems have been right all along in saying that self-ID WILL be abused by violent males?

It's me again. Are you holding?

R265 They’ll make up a convoluted excuse for why they can’t do that! It’ll probably start with something like “just because one person does it doesn’t mean an entire demographic…”. It’ll be funny whatever it is!

So both these latest shootings were committed by Fags?

They were both committed by conservatives.

R260 Goals!

I prefer to say fat incel and avoid pronouns altogether. I assumed Aldrich was in honor of traitor and spy Aldrich Ames, who is a hero to some fat incels. Anderson Lee? I don't know. Maybe Pamela Anderson Lee or Robert E Lee? Who the fuck cares. Fat Incel is a murderous psychopath raised by what seems to be one of the world's worst families.

I got high just watching the video.

In my admittedly limited experience, nonbinary persons aren't in the habit of posting pictures online burning pride flags.

Are you weirdos seriously gloating because this horrible kid actually did the made-up thing for which you love to accuse fictional people of doing? Are you that desperate for validation?

How many times did the dad say his son wasn't gay? 5, 6, or 7?

Hey Repub R274, how's your meth air?

Mom's a whore, dad's a porn "star", and I'm a Pretty Lady!

Booking photo

The face of Today's Republican Party.

That's one fine lady. On both sides.

If he says he's nonbinary we have to believe him. Those are the rules, aren't they/them?

The DEFA CTO Rules!

What fucking species is that? Ye gods.

Well, we certainly can see where the Stunning & Brave patron stomped on THEM with HER six inch stiletto heels. 👠

Stunning and brave!

R273 In my admittedly limited experience, nonbinary persons aren't in the habit of shooting up LGBTQIA+ clubs but here we are.

R278, somebody smacked them badly at the back of their head.

My heart is a flutter. Dear Miss Aldrich, will you accept my conjugal visit? My noodle is slippery, but my hands are strong.

R273:

He really had no chance in life. Sometimes genetics can really turn against you.

His claim to non-binary status will probably make no difference until the sentence and then only which prison he is sent to. But if the judge rejects it then it may set a precedent for rejection of others' claims in laws to non-binary or female status in legal proceedings or even in law in general. An ironic consequence of this shooting.

LITT trolls stinking up the space.

Again.

Block and ignore.

[quote]Gays, stay away from the mentally ill. Nothing good can come out of it.

Irony just shot itself in the head with an AR-15.

What is LITT? Louisiana Institute of Technology, Tulane?

So many of these comments are vile.

I wish society would see *this* side of the gay community instead of the "boohoo, our safe spaces aren't safe".

They never were. Your callousness made them unsafe.

MARY ^

So when women express concern over biological males entering their spaces, competing in their sports which has cost girls their scholarships and cost female athletes places, medals and records, they're called transphobic "terf cunts" and threatened with violence, but when a kid who identifies as "nonbinary" shoots up a club suddenly their pronouns don't have to be respected and they're lying about not being male? Funny how that works, huh?

Funny how trolls shit all over the place.^

His dad was on DL fave “Intervention.” I’m going to guess it didn’t take.

Are "trolls" anyone who doesn't share your opinion, R298?

Oh I just bought that episode R299, I can't wait to see this. Maybe the kid is on it too. We can see zhir sad story.

Sometimes they're Magats, R300, sometimes Nazis!

So this intervention looks promising and looks like there's a full house for his family members. I hope cunt ex wife is there too

The suspect never identified as nonbinary before the shooting. Only the day after through his attorney, which right wing media has gleefully embraced. His mother, the day of the shooting referred to him as he/him. His friend, a next-door neighbor said the suspect never referred to himself as nonbinary and said that he made derogatory slurs such as "faggot" and that he hated gay people. In the video the suspect livestreamed on Facebook the year before he called himself "your boy". Not a single person who knew him said he was nonbinary. But you know all this. You're just a shitty troll R297, R300, Ed.win.

Apologies if this has been posted upthread but: OMG

I want him to fuck me hard with his shenis!

Get in line!

R304, how can you not see that YOU ARE MAKING OUR POINT FOR US? "He's not really trans, he's just saying he is for nefarious purposes" is exactly what radfems and gender crits have been saying would happen for years. Congratulations, you're a TERF.

I'd argue it's more "shitty" to call women cunts and then threaten them with violence because they don't agree men can magically become women than pointing out woke hypocrisy, R304,

How dare women define womanhood, huh? Only White men are allowed to do that! What a fucking moron.

Sad try R308, R309. Yes, I made the point you're a troll. It's only you who thinks otherwise.

FUCK ME MS. ALDRICH!

I have truly never appreciated the beauty of the nonbinary until now.

And Lia Thomas didn't identify as a woman until he got his ass handed to him in men's contests. And sexual predators don't identify as women until they're arrested, etc. You can choose to do it any anytime and you are valid.

Liking your own posts AGAIN DeFarto? Quick, like them all! What else do you have to do between taking shits?

Are those the rules you made up in your dead brain R314? You're the SMARTIEST!

Golly... People are getting so ugly over this. None of this is going to matter to any of you in 3 months.

Here's a vid I like to watch when I get caught up in the Earthly drama and momentarily forget that nothing really matters in the end. 2:20 is the best part. Really puts everything back into perspective.

I want Andi the Nonbinary Bearded Lady to shoot inside ME!

R316 Good comeback, come back kid! No, dipshit, I didn't make the rules because I have a modicum of common sense and know that self id will only lead to shit like this, I'm shocked it's taken this long. Now go call someone a retard and a cunt, but make sure you respect this dude's pronoouns, you don't get to decide whose made up shit should be acknowledged.

Omg I can’t see the last 17 replies. Do I have them blocked?

Sadly, another mass shooting occurred today in Virginia. More victims than Club Q.

We need to stop bickering about pronouns & figure out how to prevent mass murders.

No offense, but the common denominator seems to be…the Y chromosome. Testosterone. Males.

This is not to say all men are evil.

I’m just saying that most homicides are committed by males. Can’t we just use that fact as a starting point…? How do we prevent guys from mass rampage?

R312: Excuse me, it’s MX.! MX!

R320 guys are usually the ones saving people from other guys tho. Lets not forget that bit of the equation ; )

The ex-mormons are placing blame upon institutional anti-lgbt+ rhetoric and a recent call by a leader to battle with "muskets" against the gay/trans threat. The mother was active on a LDS fb group and the pinhead was found on some mormon app, though not recently active.

It's an interesting contributing factor. Magats are living in a such a wide variety of hateful alternate realities.

R320 Um, the common denominator is GUNS. It’s really not hard to work out how to stop these mass murders.

In the meantime please respect all murderers pronouns and declared identities. Pronouns don’t get to decide who they belong to so it’s not fair to take it out on them.

R323 Magats do live in a variety of ways, but this is a non binary member of the queer community so I'm not sure what that has to do with them.

[quote] We need to stop bickering about pronouns & figure out how to prevent mass murders.

[quote]No offense, but the common denominator seems to be…the Y chromosome. Testosterone. Males.

I know you're just sad and lonely and trolling DL because you have nothing else going on this holiday, but males being more likely to commit violent crimes isn't a "common denominator."

We need gun control, we need a society that isn't overwhelmed in hate speech every day, we need mental and physical health resources that everyone can access and afford, we need a social safety net for people who get stuck in abusive situations or poverty and can't get out, we need to do something about the political party who has been using violent rhetoric to the point that they've essentially called for the deaths of some people.

We don't "need to do something about males."

[quote]"He's not really trans, he's just saying he is for nefarious purposes" is exactly what radfems and gender crits have been saying would happen for years.

No, you guys have been saying that trans people HAD ALREADY BEEN DOING THIS for years and years. You never "warned us that this would happen eventually," you said it was happening all the time, because all trans are criminally violent male rapists who lie about being trans because they want to invade women's spaces to rape rape rape, all day long.

You're moving the goalposts a bit because you know that, in all your anti-trans threads, people said that yes, criminals lie to try to get out of trouble or get better prison accommodations, but that doesn't mean all trans people are lying criminals.

You know that your previous arguments won't work here so you're pretending like you didn't make them, hoping "we warned you" will play better than "all trans are just males lying about being trans."

[quote]Anderson Lee? I don't know.

Oh, now that I thought was because of Confederate Generals Richard H. Anderson and Robert E. Lee. "Anderson Lee" is a very common deep South name, though old-fashioned these days.

quote]but this is a non binary member of the queer community

Where do you get that bit of information, r325?

Why can't you ALL see that you've been psyoped by the russians and the dark enlightenment accelerationists? ALL of this fuckery over a tiny minority due to them pushing and pushing and pushing from every direction for nearly a decade.

This turd is a terrorist liar.

Um the thread title for starters R329.

R324, four students were brutally knifed to death in Idaho this week. The killer is most likely male.

R322, like I said….no offense. I love men!! All shapes & sizes. 🤠

It’s just that …male violence is a thing. And nobody wants to address it. This stuff will continue because we can’t discuss the elephant in the room…the root cause.

R332 The root cause is GUNS

If you took an island and put a thousand women on it each with 5 guns each, there would be no mass shootings.

Silly, r331, yet you didn't go to the linked Axios article with the headline:

[quote]Colorado club shooting suspect is nonbinary, attorneys say

His attorneys said that. That's it. No more proof has been provided beyond that. No history of being "non-binary" has been provided. Work on your critical thinking skills.

R335 FFS EVERYONE knows it’s bullshit but you can’t deny this person’s identity but whine when other people say non-binary is bullshit. You can’t have it both ways because all you’re doing is admiring it’s ALL bullshit!

^ admitting not admiring

Saying "men are the root cause of violence and we need to fix it" is pretty stupid, though, and I think you know that, because you'd have offered up your suggestion what fixes maleness by now, if you had one.

"If we don't admit that men commit most violence then violence will continue" is even dumber, because there is no one, save a tiny handful of MRAs, who doesn't know men commit most violence.

Stop engaging.

Why did CBS leave out the words "I'm a Mormon" when quoting the dad in the video at R260? The media seems to be downplaying that both parents are Mormon.

R340 Because they don’t want it to be about that. They want to stay focused on homophobia and transphobia because it’s so hot right now.

Mormon $$$$$ buys a lot of PR and attorneys.

Dude, you’ve got a lot of projection going on, r338. Try not to be so emotional.

Do you want mass killings to stop? If so, try to recognize some patterns. The vast majority of killers are men. Saying so is not male bashing — it’s nothing personal. It’s just simply recognizing a pattern. Men are more dangerous than women. It’s a fact. People are more threatened by men & vigilant around them.

Mass killings are not going to stop because …as a society, we really don’t want them to stop. We love violence. It’s our right to be violent.

So I guess we’re just going to have to get used to it.

R332 as long as we can also discuss the other elephant in the room and why it's rarely women wh put their own lives on the line to safe others, especially in these situations.

R344 is that seriously an argument? Lol. Men are killing people by the thousands but we must also discuss how women don’t intervene and get themselves killed? Give me a break.

R345 why not? Maybe they'd be less dead people if women would step up?

Is the rumor I'm hearing about Aldrich changing his name AND ALSO having the family tell his dad that he killed himself true, does anyone know?

This would surely mean he changed his name to get away from that abusive meth-head dad of his, and not for nonbinary reasons.

Is dad still alive and really confused right now?

Ah, yes, once again someone says the word "MRA" and suddenly someone's MRA alt shows up to do MRA trolling.

It's very subtle, no one has ever noticed.

Haven't you been paying attention, r347?

Lame, r344. Childbirth is a killer.

Yes, r347, there are images of the court filing showing the name change reason was to distance himself from his father and his criminal record.

This family, despite being incredibly trashy and bigoted, are not unskilled at working the legal system.

Hmm so it's possible the plan all along was to claim to be nonbinary if he got caught, because the entire point was to attack the LGBT community in a politically motivated terrorist attack? Not surprising, unfortunately.

The mother was aware he was going out to kill people and made a woe-is-me post on her mormon mom fb group stating that her "developmentally disabled" son took off with her phone and debit card. This, of course, was a preemptive attempt to distance herself from his actions, invoke sympathy for the long-suffering single mother, and avoid responsibility, as she'd always done (see her own criminal record and enabling of her spawn.) She surely didn't expect he'd survive.

These are some truly deplorable operators.

If he’s non-binary I’m 145 pounds and have a fourth home Aspen. Fifth is in Jackson! Me and my imaginary husbear stay away from crowds! After all we don’t do gay! 🤡

R27 I peed my pants laughing

They are nonbinary so they are part of the LGBTQ+ community. End of story. It is not our place to tell them otherwise. Accept their pronouns and let’s move on to the sentencing.

As it turns out, the traumatized young man who was groomed into becoming “non-binary” by the woke-mob had, in a moment of intense stress, consumed numerous Twinkies until he suffered a sugar-fueled dissociative episode. Just another victim in this tragic scenario.

There's only about four people left on DL who even know what the Twinkie Defense is, though there's probably 50 people here who think it was legally "clever" and "probably true anyway."

^^ Your math is off, R358.

Why is this shooter lying, but Ezzard can't be lying?

LMAO

I just realized it’s 10:40 AM in the UK, so the drinking has started. Carry on!

r108 & r110, exactly but they aren't ready for that conversation. The trannies at a recent protest called a gay male vet of the Stonewall Riot a "fucking faggot" and a "bitch".

Them scurrying to find the nearest MAGAt in the shooter's family tree is pathetic. A member of the TQ segment committed this crime and homophobia (hypothetical or otherwise) is not evidence that they didn't.

If he was non-binary then, he’s non-binary now. By trans ideology, anyone can change their gender at any time based on however they feel. And it shouldn’t be questioned.

[quote] They are nonbinary so they are part of the LGBTQ+ community.

So, now it's LGBTQN?

Or should we add MM for mass murderers?

Why are they concerned about what binary he is. They haven't even been able at this point to prove what species he is.

R364 its LGBTQQIP2SAA.

How about just “gay?”

The retarded R363 DeFacto rule strikes again.

Seriously, what is the answer to R297's question? This ability to deny that a criminal is a member of community to which they belong to happens with no other group.

R354, nonbinary is an identity that anyone can claim so that means the killer is nonbinary simply because they/them say so.

That is all that is required to be nonbinary. No DNA test or examination of their personal history is needed.

Nonbinary is the same as somebody coming out and saying they are a believer in Christ.

While en route, Dispatch advised the reporting party, Pamela Pullen, DOB: 12/16/52 called advising her grandson, Anderson Aldrich, DOB: 05/20/00 was making a bomb in the basement. Pamela stated Anderson told her he was going to be the next mass killer and has been collecting ammunition, firearms, bullet-proof body armor and storing it in the basement of the residence. Pamela stated Anderson has recently started creating what she believes is a bomb. Pamela stated Anderson has bragged about wanting to "go out in a blaze."

Pamela stated she and her husband, Jonathan Pullen, DOB: 02/13/53 have been living in fear due to Anderson's recent homicidal threats towards them and others, Pamela stated she and Jonathan sold the house and plan on moving to Florida which Anderson is not happy about. Pamela stated Anderson told her they couldn't move yet because "it would interfere with his bomb making." Pamela stated she and Jonathan advised they asked Anderson to come into the living room for a family meeting to discuss moving to Florida.

Pamela stated Anderson came up from the basement with a glock handgun and began loading bullets into the magazine. Pamela stated Anderson told her and Jonathan that they weren't leaving to Florida. Pamela stated Anderson pointed the gun at her and Jonathan and told them, "You guys die today, and I'm taking you with me. I'm loaded and ready. You're not calling anyone." Pamela stated Anderson took the phone from her hand and told her they were not leaving to go anywhere, Pamela stated Anderson stated he was going to kill them if they didn't promise they wouldn't move to Florida.

Pamela stated Anderson told her if they moved, it would interfere with his plans to conduct a mass shooting and bombing. Pamela stated Anderson went into the basement, grabbed a box and walked upstairs to the living room. Pamela stated Anderson showed her a box with chemicals in it and stated it was a bomb. Pamela stated Anderson told her it was powerful enough to blow up a police department and a federal building. Pamela stated Anderson held her and Jonathan hostage for a period of time until they promised they wouldn't move. Pamela stated she and Jonathan begged for their lives and promised Anderson they wouldn't move. Pamela stated Anderson began chugging vodka and said he needs it for "what he's about to do".

Lying deplorables

Mother of evil. Mother of LIES.

The grandparent incident was in 2021 and is different from the bomb incident at the home where his mother rented a room.

After the bomb threat incident, his mother got an apartment and the "friend" who has been speaking with the Daily Beast is a neighbor there. That friend has only known him since they moved into the apartment and says he was not non-binary and his mother accompanied both of them to the range. Mother and son both loved shooting.

Remember, folks, this non-binary defense nonsense is a lie perpetuated by the far-right.

These are domestic terrorists. Don't engage in the bad-faith arguments.

R375, again, no one can disprove that the shooter was not nonbinary. If you do believe that then that means that no one is transgender or nonbinary.

R377 EXACTLY!

I’ve been thinking about this lately and although an elder gay who has lived his whole life as a male I have decided that I am really non-binary.

You pretend that you're advocating for women but all you're doing is advancing the cause of those trying to destroy democracy.

Don't engage, dummies.

R380 what? Did you post in the wrong thread?

The more you point out and argue about self-identification, the more you fuel both arguments. People who believe in self-id perceive these arguments as dehumanizing; people who hate everyone but straight, white deplorables perceive this as proof of their own superiority and reinforcement of their delusions about non-deplorables.

You gain nothing by engaging in the argument. Let it play out because fighting only gives more fuel to those who want all of us dead.

Now, let's all focus on what actually matters:

- The scofflaw, criminal mother aiding and abetting her self-professed aspiring mass shooter son.

- The "Constitutional Sheriffs" in this (and many others nationally) who will not enforce red-flag weapon removal.

- The hatred toward the lgbt+ community held by this terrorist, his family, his religion, and his political party.

- The outrageous attempt by this terrorist and all who created him to sow division and chaos between those they target and attack.

[quote]This turd isn't nonbinary.

Of course he’s not. No one is. ”Non-binary” doesn’t exist outside of narcissists” delusions.

You really can't stop, can you?

If we point out that non-binary is meaningless, narcissistic twaddle, democracy will be destroyed.

Do I have that?

You have what you've always had. Anal warts.

'Them' is on the case!

"On Tuesday, public defenders for alleged Club Q gunman Anderson Lee Aldrich wrote in a court filing that Aldrich is nonbinary, uses they/them pronouns, and should be addressed with the gender-neutral honorific Mx.

"Of course, right-wing pundits are already leaping on the information to perpetuate anti-LGBTQ+ narratives, and to minimize the reality of violence against our community. The Club Q shooting happened amid what is one of the worst moments for anti-queer and anti-trans political rhetoric in recent history. We can’t let this new detail about the suspect distract us from this context, no matter how much the right will want it to."

(comments begin with...)

- A hate crime is a hate crime.

-Non-binary or not, what they did has caused so much harm to the community. Bit odd if they targeted their own community.. as i saw someone else say; internalized hatred is still hatred

- I bet it’s a stunt to avoid hate crime charges

When you focus your hatred toward non-binary rather than the wide range of people who attempted (and are still attempting) to overthrow government to install a christian nationalist theocracy, yes, r386. You are either a troll or a moron, and probably both. If I had a virtual flamethrower, I would scorch the internet of all of you.

R389, perfectly stated. You have my regards.

🤝 thanks, me friend

True, r359, I was thinking "50 who, once they had it explained to them, would think it was clever" etc. but I got lazy.

R389, so we have to accept a spectrum of genders beliefs but we not a spectrum of political beliefs?

And pointing out that “NB” is meaningless is … hateful?

How does advocating for violence against people who disagree with you prevent mass shootings? Or coup attempts?

How does that secure abortion rights…which the Dems NEVER DID when they were in power?

I don’t think you really care about humanity. You couldn’t care less about gay rights or women's rights or the elderly or disabled. The actual “nazis” are the ones promoting “punching nazis.” So much irony.

One thing you’re really good at is insulting people. I fully expect you to respond to this with complete vitriol including slurs & threats of violence. Your argument will have no actual substance, & you will not for one second consider the possibility that you are mistaken & can actually learn from those you disagree with.

Probably around the same time as this violent sex offender first labelled himself a transwoman, r254.

[quote]‘Violent sex offending’ trans prisoner in women’s correctional facility

[quote]September 27, 2022 - 9:42PM

[quote]The boss of Women’s Forum Australia is requesting Corrections Victoria remove a transgender prisoner from a women’s correctional facility in Melbourne.

[quote]The organisation’s CEO Rachael Wong told Sky News host Chris Kenny that housing a violent sex offender “with a working penis” in a women’s prison, with the person having already committed sexual offences against women, is “clearly not ideal at all and is a complete failure of the system”.

Bless your heart, r393.

There's no connection between the two except in your pea-sized brain, r394.

R393 Pathetic.

Really r396? So, what you're saying is that the violent male sexual abuser should be housed in a women's prison?

You should be housed in a prison for shitheads.

The shooter was LGBTQ+. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the truth. The fact remains the shooter was nonbinary.

What about this one, r396? Is it there a connection between nonbinary Mx. Aldrich claiming they're bisexual and this sex offender pedophile being released from prison because he's decided to "transition" to a woman?

[quote]WA court orders supervision order on notorious paedophile less likely to offend after transition to woman

[quote]The West Australian

[quote]Mon, 21 November 2022 12:00PM

[quote]A dangerous sex offender — once convicted of an evil plot to set up a child abuse ring in Thailand with fellow paedophiles he met in prison — is free in the community having transitioned to living as a woman.

[quote]And a WA Supreme Court judge has said the decision by the 56-year-old, pictured, to change from he to she could reduce the risk of her reoffending against WA children.

[quote]Court documents reveal how the former RAAF recruit was already an “entrenched paedophile” — who had committed more than 1000 child sex crimes — up to her incarceration in Casuarina in 2005.

Could you please tell us what the difference is between Aldrich deciding for his own convenience that he's nonbinary and this pedophile deciding for his own convenience that he's trans?

R400, LGBTQ+ is a false construct. The LGB and the TQ+ are little related (beyond the fact that many TQ+ are self-hating homosexuals trying to pretend they're straight).

The shooter being TQ+ has no bearing on lesbian, gay or bisexual people at all. He's not one of us. He's one of the TQ+.

“They” not him

[quote] Alleged Colorado Springs Shooter is NonBinary

Enraged Troll on a roll. How said. Obsess much?

Trollie, trollie, troll troll!

Poor R400. Troll believes his GOP Republican lawyers! "The shooter was LGBTQ+. It doesn’t matter if you don’t like the truth. The fact remains the shooter was nonbinary"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

I don't like using this word but I really can't think of another. Why are these trolls so...retarded?

They're conservative. Conservatives don't accept reality. They live in THEIR own Christian dream world.

But her shemails....

Seriously, who would fuck that "fucking fat pig" except prisoners in jail!!

I hope it hurts like HELL for that fay fucking cow!!

Only the best people. NEW video of the supposed, (cough, cough) "nonbinary" asshole and his trashy mom hurling racial slurs and threats at the airport.

r393, has it ever occurred to you that the militant self-id crowd appeared out of virtual thin air? Even though feminist and lgb groups already advocated for their rights, as allies, fighting oppression of human rights from a common enemy?

If you're an independent thinker who wishes to be back in the era of non-violence, perhaps you can recall that we recognized the interconnectedness of oppression and worked for all-encompassing solutions to violence. Do you recall when women were violently forced into submission in Iran, gay men were forced to undergo gender reassignment surgery or be sentenced to death? If you do, you should realize two universal truths:

1. Fascists/Nazis/Theocrats/Totalitarians cannot be reasoned with or expected to cooperate in good faith, and can only be stopped by lowering ourselves to the level they understand: Complete domination by any means necessary in order to preserve the most lives and minimize suffering. That means confronting them with violence when they threaten and provoke violence. Yes, punching a nazi is a very good thing.

2. The overwhelming militant self-id, transgender = biological female, TERF slur campaign was entirely formed and sustained by foreign influence operatives and accelerationist fascists. They presented themselves as "leftists" but this began from the far-right, just as in Iran. They swarmed social media and scooped up many well-meaning supporters with their psychological operations but never ceased infiltrating and destroying alliances across the left. They also push anti-trans and anti-lgb narratives across the right: They attack from all sides.

That you are obsessed with pointing out the obvious proves you are unaware or unable to recognize you are only serving to further the argument of both extremes. The ship has sailed on self-id for hetero fetishists but there will be a reckoning, if you all quit stopping your enemy while they're making a mistake. You need to reign in your outrage, remember the gender dysphoric trans allies we've always had, and quit alienating those who don't know the difference. United front against the common enemy.

First paragraph correction r413: Even though feminist and lgb groups already advocated for TRANSGENDER (gender dysphoric) rights, as allies,

The shooter was NOT nonbinary and NOT LGBTQ+.

There was absolutely zero, zilch, NO evidence that they were. The lawyers decided to troll & hope that a charge of hate crime won't be made on top of the existing murder charges.

Guess they're hoping since murderous fatty Kyle Rittenhouse got off, Lardy McLardass might be set free, too.

[quote] The fact remains the shooter was nonbinary.

he's not.

Just because someone is non-binary does not mean they are incapable of being racist. This is a weak argument and only shows how desperate you and your ilk are to keep your bullshit going.

What a fucking turd you are.

Quick R417, like your own posts! Again! Make yourself feel seen!

r415 No shit, genius. The question is, however, why it's all of a sudden acceptable to question the legitimacy of someone's gender identity and their motives for making such claims when women who have been trying to call out obvious men in women's spaces and question the legitimacy of their gender identity and motives for claiming that identity have been ridiculed and attacked as hateful, transphobic, bigots committing "literal violence" for daring to question men in women's spaces.

It's hypocrisy. Pure and simple. Again, we KNOW this kid is full of shit, that's not the point. You're all telling on yourselves heavily the more you call him out. And it's glorious.

Oh, WHY would ANYOINE question the right wing lawyer's word from a hateful far right mass murderer sack of shit? WHO would question that? It's not like right wing scum are racists.....

Nobody gives a shit about *your* question, troll @r20. You're the only one asking it.

^r420

He, I mean THEY, had too many Twinkies.

r421 Why would anyone question an obvious man in a wig in the women's dressing room? Or an obvious man who is on record as being at the bottom of the barrel in the men's sports league why he's suddenly identifying as a woman to play women's sports? Or an obvious man who is a convicted sex offender that has raped women identifying as a woman to be transferred to a women's prison?

WHY?

^You believe shit. What's the point.

THEY are innocent of all charges except loving the USA too much! And too many twinkies.

Quick! Like your own posts AGAIN R425. Hurry HURRY! Get your multiple accounts going! LIKE, LIKE, LIKE!

r428 Usually when people accuse others of WW vote manipulation it's because they, themselves, are doing it.

Sorry. Those WWs are by other thinking people, bb.

[quote]They're conservative. Conservatives don't accept reality.

The cognitive dissonance on display by R409 etc. is staggering.

For the millionth time, EVERYONE knows this killer isn't non-binary and it's all a bullshit play. It's the fact that the very same people screaming that he's NOT non-binary are the very ones who will threaten to rape you if you dare suggest someone else is in fact NOT what they claim to be.

You don't get to invalidate someone's fucking gender identity because you don't personally like them. Show Mx Aldrich the respect you would show anyone else, the respect Dana Rivers and Lia Thomas and Charlotte Clymer receive.

I support you and love you R431, you a very special. Stand back and stand by.

Hey, thanks DJT! I knew you of all people would understand. It's much easier to harass women when you can claim to be one and infiltrate their spaces!

Sorry, r413, but…what’s your point? You have contradicting sentences in the same paragraph.

Ok, so you support violence as a solution…over diplomacy & democracy. How does that work, exactly? Do we train grandmothers on how to fire uzis? What about blind people…what can they do to defend themselves from ….

well, for whom? How do you define nazi? How do you prove someone is a nazi? Do you bound their hands & throw them in water? If they survive, are they a nazi?

Feminists initially did fight for the rights of the transgender…decades ago. That was a mistake. They meant well, but were under the assumption that only effeminate homosexual males were trans. This was before porn was ubiquitous & extreme. They did not know that some heterosexual men, like Bruce Jenner, got off on dressing like & being perceived as women. They knew about flashers & voyeurs…but not to what extreme these pervs would actually go to.

It’s been said many times here that T is a Trojan horse. It’s ingenious …it is successfully attacking homosexuals, women & children…from within.

[quote] That you are obsessed with pointing out the obvious proves you are unaware or unable to recognize you are only serving to further the argument of both extremes.

Huh?

[quote] You need to reign in your outrage, remember the gender dysphoric trans allies we've always had, and quit alienating those who don't know the difference. United front against the common enemy.

Oh, bullshit. The enemy is in the belly of the Trojan horse. We don’t need violence & weapons to defeat them. We simply need to remember that it’s impossible to change sex. It’s that easy. Poof. They’re gone.

Another we need to do, R434, is force them to debate. It becomes obvious within seconds that what they claim is nonsense.

Does anyone else find transgenderism/nonbinary conservative in general? Transgenderism in particular is based on regressive stereotyping of gender roles (a girl likes sports must really be a boy, a boy that likes pink is really a girl, etc.).

Yes, r436. Trans rights are men’s rights. It is based on 1950s patriarchal & oppressive sex stereotypes. It is a backlash against the gay & women’s movements of the 1970s.

Yes R436. It’s unbelievable how sexist, homophobic, regressive, and conservative it is.

What’s utterly bizarre is that “progressive” people don’t realize this. Or they pretend not to. Secretly, I think most of them realize it… if they think about it for five seconds. How could they not? They just think it’s something they’re supposed to support, and ignore the cognitive dissonance.

Equally galling is that TRAs have the temerity to claim that gender-critical people are the regressive ones, because they don’t believe in cross-gender identities and expression. I’ve read them on Twitter saying “They think there’s only one way to be a woman.” YES, and that’s being born female and going through puberty. That’s literally the only way. Because being a woman is a biological reality for the human sex. ‘Gender’ is stereotypes, which is what gender-critical people are CRITICIZING.

I can never tell if gender ID ideologues are really really stupid or just crazy.

R438, I know of two different lesbian attorneys who are passionately pro-trans. They get so offended by the mere suggestion that trans ideology is harmful to gays and women. I have no idea what are their thoughts on transing kids — I’m afraid to ask.

Neither is online savvy. Both are white and attend Unitarian church.

They mean well and are smart. I just don’t get it.

I can only assume that people like those lesbian attorneys, R439, are only aware of the friendly, meek (?) trans people they might encounter in day-to-day life, and have no idea how militant and insane the activism is.

Though I don’t see how people could be unaware of it at this point, because it’s … everywhere.

[quote]R412 NEW video of the supposed, (cough, cough) "nonbinary" asshole and his trashy mom hurling racial slurs and threats at the airport.

Guess Mormons aren't like Donny and Marie anymore. Wow.

Wonder if Mom ever took her very-disturbed son to a psychiatrist.

And why would the court seal the record of the bomb threat and the kidnapping/murder threats toward the killer's grandparents? At least that would all be on his record and could have prevented a gun purchase. (Then again, his mom probably would have supplied him with any weapons he demanded.) So tragic.

Yeah, r440, I guess they live in bubbles. If it’s not a problem for them personally, then it’s not a problem.

I wonder when the fever will break…what will make them finally realize they’ve been duped.

What is so odd to me is Trans and Non Binary seem like opposites, although they are always thrown into the same big basket. Trans are so very, very conscious of gender that they will undergo radical surgery to correct being born into the wrong gender. Then Non Binary come along and say, yeah, gender isn't real so forget all that. Seems like opposites, but apparently it's all magically the same thing in some grand coalition.

To be fair, he does look like most people who identify as nonbinary: fat, gross, ugly, androgynous, and utterly unfuckable.

That's you alright.

The National Organization for Women - Lesbian Rights archive

See the "Information" section for the linked article:

[quote]Feminists Call for Action After Killings of Two Transgender Women, August 20, 2002

Everyone was perfectly clear about the distinction between transgender and paraphilias until the far right began its influence campaign of harassment and demands for representation, despite it already existing for decades. Erasure and denial of history is powerful tool of psychological warfare that seems to have worked particularly well on our resident loons.

youtu.be/bc80tFJpTuo

Doesn’t Mx realize they is going to prison regardless of their gender identities? If they had retained a masculine identity and leaned into the racism and homophobia, the Aryan Brotherhood would have adopted the mass killer as their prison mascot, virtually untouchable. Good luck in prison, Pat!

^^ And that’s just in WOMEN’s prison. Male prison would be even worse.

R438 I find it ridiculous because most people contain multitudes and the things that they base "gender" on (like what clothes someone prefers and their hobbies) are inherently shallow.

r442

Ha Mx Aldrich gotten their jail beat down yet?

Word

Is this what nonbinary people look like naked?

Add bloody scars & yeah, pretty much, r453

Bloody scars? Not usually, they usually don't do anything but get fat and dye their hair. Surgery would be an action and they just like to talk and whine about how different they are.

R455 They're all cutters because unique and interesting.

Ah yes, R456, that's true.