Gay New Yorkers Being Drugged & Robbed

[quote]Who would do something like this?

You're kidding right?

2 young men at popular New York City gay bars.

They each left with at least one mysterious person. They were both found dead. Both of their bank accounts were drained.

And they may not be the only ones.

More gay New Yorkers are coming forward for the first time with accounts that share notable similarities to the unexplained deaths this spring of Julio Ramirez, 25, a social worker, and John Umberger, 33, a political consultant.

The biggest difference so far: They survived.

Ramirez was found dead in the back of a taxi.

His body was discovered an hour after he was seen leaving the Ritz Bar and Lounge with three unidentified men, according to the NYPD. His family previously told NBC News that approximately $20,000 had been drained from his bank account

Friends of Chana?

Donald Trump JR?

After reading this article, it seems people including cops are looking the other way.

An account is drained of thousands of dollars without an alert from the bank kicking in?

I once had someone try to use my credit card remotely for 200 dollars, the transaction was canceled along with the card.

The bank called me to confirm that the transaction was mine before canceling the card.

The victims were in bars with other people, surveillance cameras don't have footage?

A victim is discovered dead in the back of a cab? No security cameras in cabs? The can driver doesn't know where he dropped off the other riders?

R6, it seems that the police didn’t care to investigate that deeply

Hey r7? You don't have to care.

You just need to do your job.

Where's the video footage from security cameras in the cab and the bars and the lobby of the buildings the victims lived in?

R6. It's all in your pattern of spending. At one time, up to $9,999 could still be pulled if you had the funds. But, that may have changed now because of 'Big Brother'.

This is a future Law and Order episode.

Well, Nancy Pelosi nailed it, don't you know. It's the rise of Trump, the right and MEGA hits that have hit out on the gay community. C'mon, what gay would think of doing such a specious act?

is it like that guy who killed gays in Toronto

Sounds like the work of Bernard Fremont & Nicole Wallace…

Anyone have the whereabouts of Cardi B for the past few weeks?

THE DOODLER RETURNS

the White guy that was murdered

Was a Republican Staffer

The Re-Doodler? Doodle 2: Electric Boogaloo? Homo Alone 2: Lost in NY?

[quote] the White guy that was murdered Was a Republican Staffer

Interesting that when a Dem staff is killed (like the guy in DC), the right spins conspiracy theory after theory when, in fact, he was only mugged by a rando.

When a GOP staffer dies, the Dems wants to find who killed him and doesn't make it part of a big conspiracy.

You are being weird. The guy found dead in the cab worked as a social worker and based on his profession, it is unlikely that he voted puke.

The curious thing about these crimes is the lack of urgency to correct and prevent additional crimes from occurring.

[quote] You are being weird. The guy found dead in the cab worked as a social worker and based on his profession, it is unlikely that he voted puke.

It is the OTHER guy

Not too quick on the uptake, are you.

The political party the victims belonged to isn't relevant, the circumstances of their deaths and the near death experience of others is.

Most people are apolitical and don't vote.

That guy was 33?? Republicans really do age horribly.

It’s not safe being a gay man

Hold on a sec. Given the circumstances, it is possible the perps are also gay men.

Don’t let them be…

Hold on again. The victims of these crimes, met their assailants in person in public places.

Cops are dragging their feet securing and circulating the surveillance footage from these places.

Bars. Cabs. Lobbies in apartment buildings and the elevators.

R27 there is a reason why, either investigational or political.

Datalounge people- I NEVER go to someone's apartment and I NEVER bring someone to my place. All of my action I get at a bathhouse. FAR safer.

This is why I don’t use face recognition software. You will have to pry away my money with your cold, dead hands.

[quote] Datalounge people- I NEVER go to someone's apartment and I NEVER bring someone to my place. All of my action I get at a bathhouse. FAR safer.

It seems these are happening in bars. They are slipped something that makes them totally forget what happened.

yes, these guys are being drugged and those who survived have no recollection of that night

[quote]But, that may have changed now because of 'Big Brother'.

Oh, that’s silly. What does a TV reality show have to do with it?

[quote]This is why I don’t use face recognition software.

Thank god! Don’t nobody wanna see that mug.

[quote]It’s not safe being a gay man

You’re so right. Tomorrow I’m changing my sexual affiliation to hetero. Do I have to see the Town Clerk or the County Board?

The stop choosing to be gay!!

[quote]Tomorrow I’m changing my sexual affiliation to hetero. Do I have to see the Town Clerk or the County Board?

No, just buy some khakis from Kohl's and everyone will know.

You'll have to remain vigilant in your new straight life. Drugging and robbing men goes on in that community, too, as J.Lo and Constance Wu taught us in "Hustlers."

R11 this already was an SVU episode but the targets weren’t gay. Hot women were drugging men and taking them to hotels and draining their accounts. Creepy.

Security cameras and tracing the transfers, purchases and shipments should have this case solved in 5, 4, 3, 2…..

I’ve never been more glad to always be suspicious when someone shows an interest in me

I love you, r37!

[quote]Drugging and robbing men goes on in that community, too, as J.Lo and Constance Wu taught us in "Hustlers."

Because guys, in general, are way too easy to manipulate with sex and are also not socialized to perceive others as a threat (especially not women). Those catfishing scams where guys are lured into showing explicit photos of themselves and then blackmailed, the drugging and robbing, being lured into cartel territory and mugged while vacationing in Mexico because they actually believed the "friendly tour guide" at the airport was leading them to a brothel, being trapped into fatherhood (and the subsequent child support payments) because they "took her word for it" regarding birth control. It's ridiculous. Throw sex in the mix and self-preservation and common sense for most men goes completely out the window, especially when they're in the 18 - 34 age group.

Y'all need to get it together.

R42 You're right. Grindr is filled with so many scammers and grifters. And of course serial rapists and killers use that app a lot. I don't think it's a gay thing more a male thing. Men in general are less vigilant. Straight men are less likely to be victimized by women though women definitely will play them and exploit their lustiness. But gay men are more likely to be victimized by men, both straight and gay in more horrific ways.

r43 Yep. Men, regardless of sexual orientation, are more likely to be victimized by other men. Most violent crimes are committed by men, and most of their victims are also men.

The women who lure straight men into traps in these Latin American countries are usually leading them to an ambush...of heavily armed men. It happens WAY too often in those countries for sure.

Women usually just steal money or use blackmail to get money. But it's often nonviolent. Aileen Wuornos types exist but rare. It's men who will do the most fucked-up violent things to men. And yes women will lure men into these violent thugs but it's never to violent female thugs.

Frankie Grande dodged a bullet!

Olivia Culpo? Julianne Hough? Olivia Munn ? They gotta get that dollar for a wedding ring somehow!