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What happens if Elon Musk succeeds at Twitter?

I can't see how it will work.

But if it does, then what? Do all tech companies engage in massive layoffs? Do other companies?

by Anonymousreply 77November 24, 2022 4:32 AM

fuck Twatter

by Anonymousreply 1November 22, 2022 10:37 PM

I admit I was shocked that Trwitter kept going after 75% of its staff walked out. OP do you mean that now that Twitter is still standing all other tech companies will drop their staff too? I sincerely doubt it. Twitter can keep going for a little while on a skeleton crew but he's going to have hire many, many people to maintain the architecture and prevent problems down the road.

by Anonymousreply 2November 22, 2022 10:44 PM

He won't.

by Anonymousreply 3November 22, 2022 11:09 PM

but if he does ...?

by Anonymousreply 4November 22, 2022 11:11 PM

He'll hire a whole crew of Oompa Loompas who can't leave him or they'll get kicked out of the country

by Anonymousreply 5November 23, 2022 12:37 AM

Won't effect my life in the least🤷‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 6November 23, 2022 12:42 AM

Depends on what he's trying to do. If he's trying to turn it into a right wing media amplification machine to give his right wing billionaire views more purchase, he's already succeeding.

by Anonymousreply 7November 23, 2022 12:47 AM

My Boy's father will have him pay visit delivering an offer Elon cannot refuse.

by Anonymousreply 8November 23, 2022 1:21 AM

...seems to be succeeding at fucking Twitter up, thus far...

by Anonymousreply 9November 23, 2022 1:31 AM

He will obviously have to hire replacement workers. But he got to fire all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans. Their replacements will be compliant. Maybe that was the point.

Btw why do you lot care about Twitter when you have DL.

by Anonymousreply 10November 23, 2022 2:09 AM

[quote]all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans

Seriously? You sound like Fox News. And fwiw, they don't look like that. There's even a photo. They are normal people who were just cleaning Twitter of the most toxic elements which incidentally is what advertisers want too.

by Anonymousreply 11November 23, 2022 2:11 AM

Well I do get most of my news from Fox and Datalounge !

by Anonymousreply 12November 23, 2022 2:17 AM

Stop playing dumb, r11. Everyone knows that Twitter's "workforce" was supremely top-heavy with the Terminally Woke.

That's what made the company vulnerable to a takeover in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 13November 23, 2022 2:19 AM

R13 Wrong, the advertisers were already having problems with their ads appearing alongside toxic content. So that's why those people were needed. It's not a coincidence that so many advertisers have paused their ads since so many of them were fired.

by Anonymousreply 14November 23, 2022 2:21 AM

If Musk succeeds in turning Twitter into yet another right-wing circle jerk, then eventually the fascists will get tired of insulting each other and they’ll move on to something else.

by Anonymousreply 15November 23, 2022 2:22 AM

Some of you don't even seem to get how business works in reality. There's always 4chan if you truly want a free for all.

by Anonymousreply 16November 23, 2022 2:23 AM

R13, define “terminally woke.”

by Anonymousreply 17November 23, 2022 2:23 AM

The first time I ever heard of advertisers having a problem with Twitter was AFTER Musk bought it.

Never before.

by Anonymousreply 18November 23, 2022 2:24 AM

Entropy:

PHYSICS

1. a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.

"the second law of thermodynamics says that entropy always increases with time"

2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

"a marketplace where entropy reigns supreme"

by Anonymousreply 19November 23, 2022 2:24 AM

"Some of you don't even seem to get how business works in reality. There's always 4chan if you truly want a free for all."

And to you 4 chan is worth 40 odd billion dollars, Mr. Business?

by Anonymousreply 20November 23, 2022 2:25 AM

There are plenty of advertisers out there.

by Anonymousreply 21November 23, 2022 2:25 AM

R18 This article is from before Musk took over Twitter!

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by Anonymousreply 22November 23, 2022 2:26 AM

[quote]And to you 4 chan is worth 40 odd billion dollars, Mr. Business?

Er. No - that was my point. 4chan is *not* worth 40 odd billion dollars *because* it's a toxic hellscape.

by Anonymousreply 23November 23, 2022 2:28 AM

OP 10% of the people do 90% of the work.

by Anonymousreply 24November 23, 2022 2:29 AM

God, who's the MAGAt on here?...

"There are plenty of advertisers out there. "

"10% of the people do 90% of the work. "

"Stop playing dumb, Everyone knows that Twitter's "workforce" was supremely top-heavy with the Terminally Woke. "

"all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans"

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by Anonymousreply 25November 23, 2022 5:09 AM

If he succeeds, hysterical threads will continue to pollute this site forever.

by Anonymousreply 26November 23, 2022 5:10 AM

Already had the MAGAt on ignore. You should, too.

The moment there's a SM platform alternative that isn't of the gab/parler variety, Twitter is done. People want a "public square." No decent person wants to be around those right-wing cockroaches and they clearly don't want to be among themselves, that's why they stayed on Twitter. They had their own fucking platforms and they all failed. Twitter will, too, once the alternative is in place.

by Anonymousreply 27November 23, 2022 5:15 AM

^ Back in the olden days every "town square" had a crazy nut job with placards loaded with Bible verses who would yell at the passing cars. We would roll up our windows and try not to make eye contact. Now they're on social media yelling at the rest of us as we move from platform to platform still trying not to make eye contact 😬

by Anonymousreply 28November 23, 2022 5:24 AM

Elon also has questions re: Twitter

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by Anonymousreply 29November 23, 2022 5:33 AM

Progress report

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by Anonymousreply 30November 23, 2022 5:34 AM

^ How many advertisers did he lose this week? MAGAts don't pay the bills, Elmo

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by Anonymousreply 31November 23, 2022 5:38 AM

He's now whining that there was some unnamed left-wing cabal who's chased advertisers away even though he, supposedly, played by their rules. Such a fucking drama queen.

by Anonymousreply 32November 23, 2022 5:45 AM

People disagree with me, and aren't following my views. I will call them magats and block them and live in a little shell where differing views never get into me. SHRIIIEK.

by Anonymousreply 33November 23, 2022 5:57 AM

I won't even look at Elmo's timeline anymore, every time he Tweets it turns into a right-wing free-for-all of nut jobs, psychopaths and syncopaths. He finally thinks he's the cool kid at the center of his universe 🙄

by Anonymousreply 34November 23, 2022 5:58 AM

R33 = "I'm a butthurt troll"

by Anonymousreply 35November 23, 2022 6:00 AM

Because other men here think you are emotionally and mentally stunted, and you cannot process different views, does not make us trolls or Boris. It just make us men who disagree with you.

by Anonymousreply 36November 23, 2022 6:14 AM

If the workers who were fired or quit were so unnecessary why is Musk demanding those who are left work like demons to make up for them?

by Anonymousreply 37November 23, 2022 6:18 AM

Elmo fired his sales staff, you know, the people who bring in the advertisers who pay the bills. That is the dumbest thing he could have done. He may be a billionaire, but he sure doesn't understand the nuts and bolts about how a business is run day to day

by Anonymousreply 38November 23, 2022 6:24 AM

No question that tech companies become bloated in people and features after a while I suspect that summer of the people layoffs were indeed under performers. But he also laid off a lot of people who make things reliay and who ensure trust and safety (e.g. content moderation). Musk has made it clear that he's uninterested in investing in content moderation. He's either being ideological about it (libertarian, right wing, free speech etc) or naive (machine learning is not enough, human moderation is needed, but he has no experience in the area, and too much of an ego to admit it) .

If you think Twitter is running fine after the layoffs, think again. We don't have access to the aggregate metrics, but I'm pretty sure hate speech is up, misinformation bots are up, and so are scams. You might not see it by reading your 10 tweets a day. But the world experiences it.

by Anonymousreply 39November 23, 2022 6:32 AM

R30 Well, he got rid of the pedos. And the censorship seriously only ever focused on certain types of accounts. Meanwhilst, alot of awful bullshit has been allowed to flourish for over a decade.

by Anonymousreply 40November 23, 2022 6:36 AM

He didn't get rid of anyone except employees. The only new users he's attracted is people who have come to watch the train wreck of Twitter hitting the wall or people who've been banned from every other platform

Here comes Twitter...

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by Anonymousreply 41November 23, 2022 6:41 AM

R41 No, he did. Well, he has started. Gods knows how many accounts of this kind are active in America.

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by Anonymousreply 42November 23, 2022 6:46 AM

Do you have non anecdotal evidence of that, r40? For instance do you have any aggregate metrics you could share with us?

by Anonymousreply 43November 23, 2022 6:47 AM

@r42, Are you drunk? Did you read that article? Those accounts were banned BEFORE Muskrat took over. Put down the bottle and go to bed

by Anonymousreply 44November 23, 2022 6:50 AM

November 3 2022 he took over October 28. Happy Halloween.

by Anonymousreply 45November 23, 2022 6:58 AM

^ 😂 I was kidding, but you really are drunk...

"BENGALURU: Twitter has banned 52,141 accounts in India for promoting child sexual exploitation,non-consensual nudity and similar content between August 26 and September 25. It has banned 1,982 accounts for promoting terrorism."

Merry New Year's 🥳

by Anonymousreply 46November 23, 2022 7:12 AM

[quote]I admit I was shocked that Trwitter kept going after 75% of its staff walked out

At my company, there are hundreds of people in IT, but only a small percentage of them are engaged in keeping the systems up and running. The majority of IT people are working on projects for future changes. You can keep systems up and running for a while with only a small staff. With all the people who left, that means that future enhancements of Twitter will be delayed or shelved. It doesn't necessarily mean that there's not enough people to keep the lights on.

by Anonymousreply 47November 23, 2022 7:36 AM

It took a few hours for the Titanic to fill up with water and sink too

by Anonymousreply 48November 23, 2022 7:41 AM

[quote]If the workers who were fired or quit were so unnecessary why is Musk demanding those who are left work like demons to make up for them?

If you had workers who are lazy and goofing off, then yes, they were unnecessary and need to be replaced with people who will work hard to make up for the non-work of the departed.

by Anonymousreply 49November 23, 2022 7:41 AM

I don't believe that almost 90% of Twitter's workforce was non-essential. No company operates like that. Also, when new management takes over they take time to study who's essential and who isn't. They don't cut their, sales, IT and security staff if that's who's keeping the lights on

by Anonymousreply 50November 23, 2022 7:48 AM

R45 No, i really am drunk. Kisses

by Anonymousreply 51November 23, 2022 7:50 AM

It isn't even 75% - that was a guess early on. Last I saw, Twitter is down to 2,700 employees from 3,700, so not even cut in half.

by Anonymousreply 52November 23, 2022 7:51 AM

It is pretty strange trying to discuss long term solutions for Musk and Twitter when everything they do is short term oriented. Unstable and unpredictable stunts don't attract new users and advertisers, while losing loyal users and advertisers.

An understaffed company can't respond to problems in time. One problem in one apartment will snowball into a crisis for the whole company in no-time. It's all connected, after all.

Musk is in no position to create an image of confidence into his leadership and in his version of Twitter. That will not change any time soon.

I could see tech start ups becoming more conservative in the sense of assuring their users of stability instead of being run by stunt queens like Musk.

by Anonymousreply 53November 23, 2022 8:00 AM

WashPost: More than a third of Twitter’s top 100 clients have not advertised on the platform in the past two weeks, data shows.

by Anonymousreply 54November 23, 2022 8:04 AM

He also fired the people who protect your data. I don't want to get hacked so I left Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 55November 23, 2022 8:06 AM

@r52...

"Lets put this into perspective — at the beginning of this month, Twitter had 7,400 employees. Barely half way through the month, if 75% do actually stick to their decision today, the company will have shrunk by a whopping ~88%."

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by Anonymousreply 56November 23, 2022 9:47 AM

"What happens if Elon Musk succeeds at Twitter?"

Snakes will fly on planes.

Dogs and cats will collude together.

You'll have to buy pig shit proof umbrellas.

by Anonymousreply 57November 23, 2022 11:37 AM

I don't think anyone here even has a definition of what they mean when they say "succeed."

What does "succeeding at Twitter" even involve?

by Anonymousreply 58November 23, 2022 11:41 AM

[quote]Well, he got rid of the pedos.

What the fuck? Where did you even come up with that?

[quote] And the censorship seriously only ever focused on certain types of accounts.

I'm still awaiting the return of five accounts I know who were banned unfairly and none of them were the Repugs who have been squealing like stuck pigs about how they'd been censored and shadowbanned. The rightwing nutjob lie about how they were victimized by Twitter's leftist censors is ridiculous.

The big problem with Elon is that he bought into the lie, he thought Twitter was run by evil leftist overlords, and he's slowly finding out that it was actually run by dudes who wanted to make money. He'll never admit that it was a lie -- that's obvious after his idiotic story yesterday about how he WOULD have fixed Twitter had a cabal of leftist organizations just held up their end of some unspecified bargain -- but he will eventually realize that Twitter wasn't some kind of far-left spook org.

He'll get Twitter mostly operational, have moderation policies that prioritize hate speech over everything else, get sued a few times, and probably turn it into a subscription-only pornhaus for a brief period, before realizing everyone has wandered off.

by Anonymousreply 59November 23, 2022 11:48 AM

R58 Twitter consistently turning a profit and not going bankrupt.

by Anonymousreply 60November 23, 2022 12:24 PM

R7, not really. Advertisers have been steadily jumping ship. They don't want to waste their money there advertising to the influx of bots and extremists, it's useless. It's becoming nothing but a cesspool. Pre Musk, 90% of Twitters revenue was from ads.

His monthly charge for a badge initiative failed immediately and rendered it completely useless at all going forward, paid or not. Real users are leaving in droves and the site is being swamped with bots and trolls.

Musk himself has revealed himself as being completely unhinged as well. The remaining staff have begin quitting on their own rather than waiting around to get let go.

by Anonymousreply 61November 23, 2022 1:29 PM

Also, OP, sadly other big tech companies are engaging in massive layoffs, but it's completely unrelated to Twitter and Musk.

Amazon is about to layoff about 10k employees because of Siri more or less failing. They were selling Siri devices at a loss for a decade now and it never generated the anticipated revenue it was expected to.

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by Anonymousreply 62November 23, 2022 1:34 PM

[quote]Do all tech companies engage in massive layoffs?

Many have already started layoffs but they are not as chaotic as Musk has been with Twitter. If Twitter is successful it will go public again and relisted on the stock exchange and Musk and other investors will get their money back.

by Anonymousreply 63November 23, 2022 3:06 PM

Define "succeed."

I doubt he'll ever get it back to what it was in any form. Too many users have deactivated, too much institutional knowledge was lost from all the firings, resignations and layoffs, too many advertisers were lost who will never be back. The $8 blue check debacle drove away anyone who wasn't a Musk fanatic or a complete troll.

Twitter might survive in some form, maybe as a right wing subscriber-based outfit of some sort, but even that seems unlikely. It never turned a profit before and it certainly won't turn one now without becoming subscriber based. It will never run just on ads because no company wants their ads appearing besides Nazi rants from incels.

by Anonymousreply 64November 23, 2022 5:10 PM

R62 here, I meant Alexa, not Siri with regards to Amazon. Sorry for the mixup.

by Anonymousreply 65November 23, 2022 5:18 PM

“Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts, provided that they have not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam?”

Um, you just let tRump back on and banned Kathy Griffin...

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by Anonymousreply 66November 23, 2022 8:09 PM

Too bad it's no longer a public traded company. Musk is going to be able to hide the cratering numbers in ad revenue.

[Quote] A number of prominent ad agencies have advised their clients to put a pause on using Twitter as an ad vehicle. The Verge reported that Omnicom, one of the world’s largest ad agencies with over 5,000 global clients, cautioned their clientele about Twitter’s new verification decision. The ad agency cited the departure of top -level executives, brand safety and fake verification accounts among other reasons. Among Omnicom’s clients include McDonald’s, AppleAAPL +0.6%, Mercedes-Benz and PepsiCoPEP +0.1%.

[Quote] Digiday reports WPP’s GroupM, the world’s largest ad agency, has told their clients that Twitter has become a “high-risk” buy.

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by Anonymousreply 67November 24, 2022 1:18 AM

r25, Elon just posted what he found in a closet a Twitter HQ:

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by Anonymousreply 68November 24, 2022 1:39 AM

[quote] The Verge reported that Omnicom, one of the world’s largest ad agencies with over 5,000 global clients, cautioned their clientele about Twitter’s new verification decision

Omnicom better be careful. They could end up getting sued.

by Anonymousreply 69November 24, 2022 1:42 AM

The only things I see in my feed today are tweets from NYT, NPR, and a couple of other news outlets and newspapers with some trashy sports betting ads interspersed among them. I thought about it, realized that I don't really need Twitter for that, just the apps for those content providers, set them up to send notifications, and then I deactivated my account.

by Anonymousreply 70November 24, 2022 1:57 AM

Read Mattias Desmet's "The Psychology of Totalitarianism". Woke is actually a euphemism for the effects of mass formation psychosis. Basically, because of excessive anxiety and aggression, some people are prone to do, say or believe anything at all to feel a part of a fictitious social contract. Hitler, Stalin and Mua Zedung learned to use this phenomenon to get wealth and power; for a while.

by Anonymousreply 71November 24, 2022 2:07 AM

Mao Zedung :)

by Anonymousreply 72November 24, 2022 2:08 AM

Thanks for your far right perspective, R71. Now, fuck back off to 8chan.

by Anonymousreply 73November 24, 2022 2:15 AM

You mean this Mathias Desmet, a conspiracy theorist who appeared on Infowars:

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by Anonymousreply 74November 24, 2022 2:19 AM

Delete your accounts, twats.

by Anonymousreply 75November 24, 2022 2:39 AM

Comic relief

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by Anonymousreply 76November 24, 2022 3:38 AM

r74 The Mattias Desmet from the Ghent University Dept. of Psychoanalysis and Clinical Consulting. The one with 115 publications and 1,655 professional citations. Of course you all know it's true. The question is do we fix it or does it fix us?

by Anonymousreply 77November 24, 2022 4:32 AM
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