What happens if Elon Musk succeeds at Twitter?

fuck Twatter

I admit I was shocked that Trwitter kept going after 75% of its staff walked out. OP do you mean that now that Twitter is still standing all other tech companies will drop their staff too? I sincerely doubt it. Twitter can keep going for a little while on a skeleton crew but he's going to have hire many, many people to maintain the architecture and prevent problems down the road.

He won't.

but if he does ...?

He'll hire a whole crew of Oompa Loompas who can't leave him or they'll get kicked out of the country

Won't effect my life in the least🤷‍♂️

Depends on what he's trying to do. If he's trying to turn it into a right wing media amplification machine to give his right wing billionaire views more purchase, he's already succeeding.

My Boy's father will have him pay visit delivering an offer Elon cannot refuse.

...seems to be succeeding at fucking Twitter up, thus far...

He will obviously have to hire replacement workers. But he got to fire all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans. Their replacements will be compliant. Maybe that was the point.

Btw why do you lot care about Twitter when you have DL.

[quote]all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans

Seriously? You sound like Fox News. And fwiw, they don't look like that. There's even a photo. They are normal people who were just cleaning Twitter of the most toxic elements which incidentally is what advertisers want too.

Well I do get most of my news from Fox and Datalounge !

Stop playing dumb, r11. Everyone knows that Twitter's "workforce" was supremely top-heavy with the Terminally Woke.

That's what made the company vulnerable to a takeover in the first place.

R13 Wrong, the advertisers were already having problems with their ads appearing alongside toxic content. So that's why those people were needed. It's not a coincidence that so many advertisers have paused their ads since so many of them were fired.

If Musk succeeds in turning Twitter into yet another right-wing circle jerk, then eventually the fascists will get tired of insulting each other and they’ll move on to something else.

Some of you don't even seem to get how business works in reality. There's always 4chan if you truly want a free for all.

R13, define “terminally woke.”

The first time I ever heard of advertisers having a problem with Twitter was AFTER Musk bought it.

Never before.

Entropy:

PHYSICS

1. a thermodynamic quantity representing the unavailability of a system's thermal energy for conversion into mechanical work, often interpreted as the degree of disorder or randomness in the system.

"the second law of thermodynamics says that entropy always increases with time"

2. lack of order or predictability; gradual decline into disorder.

"a marketplace where entropy reigns supreme"

"Some of you don't even seem to get how business works in reality. There's always 4chan if you truly want a free for all."

And to you 4 chan is worth 40 odd billion dollars, Mr. Business?

There are plenty of advertisers out there.

R18 This article is from before Musk took over Twitter!

[quote]And to you 4 chan is worth 40 odd billion dollars, Mr. Business?

Er. No - that was my point. 4chan is *not* worth 40 odd billion dollars *because* it's a toxic hellscape.

OP 10% of the people do 90% of the work.

God, who's the MAGAt on here?...

"There are plenty of advertisers out there. "

"10% of the people do 90% of the work. "

"Stop playing dumb, Everyone knows that Twitter's "workforce" was supremely top-heavy with the Terminally Woke. "

"all the purple and green haired SJWs and trans"

If he succeeds, hysterical threads will continue to pollute this site forever.

Already had the MAGAt on ignore. You should, too.

The moment there's a SM platform alternative that isn't of the gab/parler variety, Twitter is done. People want a "public square." No decent person wants to be around those right-wing cockroaches and they clearly don't want to be among themselves, that's why they stayed on Twitter. They had their own fucking platforms and they all failed. Twitter will, too, once the alternative is in place.

^ Back in the olden days every "town square" had a crazy nut job with placards loaded with Bible verses who would yell at the passing cars. We would roll up our windows and try not to make eye contact. Now they're on social media yelling at the rest of us as we move from platform to platform still trying not to make eye contact 😬

Elon also has questions re: Twitter

Progress report

^ How many advertisers did he lose this week? MAGAts don't pay the bills, Elmo

He's now whining that there was some unnamed left-wing cabal who's chased advertisers away even though he, supposedly, played by their rules. Such a fucking drama queen.

People disagree with me, and aren't following my views. I will call them magats and block them and live in a little shell where differing views never get into me. SHRIIIEK.

I won't even look at Elmo's timeline anymore, every time he Tweets it turns into a right-wing free-for-all of nut jobs, psychopaths and syncopaths. He finally thinks he's the cool kid at the center of his universe 🙄

R33 = "I'm a butthurt troll"

Because other men here think you are emotionally and mentally stunted, and you cannot process different views, does not make us trolls or Boris. It just make us men who disagree with you.

If the workers who were fired or quit were so unnecessary why is Musk demanding those who are left work like demons to make up for them?

Elmo fired his sales staff, you know, the people who bring in the advertisers who pay the bills. That is the dumbest thing he could have done. He may be a billionaire, but he sure doesn't understand the nuts and bolts about how a business is run day to day

No question that tech companies become bloated in people and features after a while I suspect that summer of the people layoffs were indeed under performers. But he also laid off a lot of people who make things reliay and who ensure trust and safety (e.g. content moderation). Musk has made it clear that he's uninterested in investing in content moderation. He's either being ideological about it (libertarian, right wing, free speech etc) or naive (machine learning is not enough, human moderation is needed, but he has no experience in the area, and too much of an ego to admit it) .

If you think Twitter is running fine after the layoffs, think again. We don't have access to the aggregate metrics, but I'm pretty sure hate speech is up, misinformation bots are up, and so are scams. You might not see it by reading your 10 tweets a day. But the world experiences it.

R30 Well, he got rid of the pedos. And the censorship seriously only ever focused on certain types of accounts. Meanwhilst, alot of awful bullshit has been allowed to flourish for over a decade.

He didn't get rid of anyone except employees. The only new users he's attracted is people who have come to watch the train wreck of Twitter hitting the wall or people who've been banned from every other platform

Here comes Twitter...

R41 No, he did. Well, he has started. Gods knows how many accounts of this kind are active in America.

Do you have non anecdotal evidence of that, r40? For instance do you have any aggregate metrics you could share with us?

@r42, Are you drunk? Did you read that article? Those accounts were banned BEFORE Muskrat took over. Put down the bottle and go to bed

November 3 2022 he took over October 28. Happy Halloween.

^ 😂 I was kidding, but you really are drunk...

"BENGALURU: Twitter has banned 52,141 accounts in India for promoting child sexual exploitation,non-consensual nudity and similar content between August 26 and September 25. It has banned 1,982 accounts for promoting terrorism."

Merry New Year's 🥳

[quote]I admit I was shocked that Trwitter kept going after 75% of its staff walked out

At my company, there are hundreds of people in IT, but only a small percentage of them are engaged in keeping the systems up and running. The majority of IT people are working on projects for future changes. You can keep systems up and running for a while with only a small staff. With all the people who left, that means that future enhancements of Twitter will be delayed or shelved. It doesn't necessarily mean that there's not enough people to keep the lights on.

It took a few hours for the Titanic to fill up with water and sink too

[quote]If the workers who were fired or quit were so unnecessary why is Musk demanding those who are left work like demons to make up for them?

If you had workers who are lazy and goofing off, then yes, they were unnecessary and need to be replaced with people who will work hard to make up for the non-work of the departed.

I don't believe that almost 90% of Twitter's workforce was non-essential. No company operates like that. Also, when new management takes over they take time to study who's essential and who isn't. They don't cut their, sales, IT and security staff if that's who's keeping the lights on

R45 No, i really am drunk. Kisses

It isn't even 75% - that was a guess early on. Last I saw, Twitter is down to 2,700 employees from 3,700, so not even cut in half.

It is pretty strange trying to discuss long term solutions for Musk and Twitter when everything they do is short term oriented. Unstable and unpredictable stunts don't attract new users and advertisers, while losing loyal users and advertisers.

An understaffed company can't respond to problems in time. One problem in one apartment will snowball into a crisis for the whole company in no-time. It's all connected, after all.

Musk is in no position to create an image of confidence into his leadership and in his version of Twitter. That will not change any time soon.

I could see tech start ups becoming more conservative in the sense of assuring their users of stability instead of being run by stunt queens like Musk.

WashPost: More than a third of Twitter’s top 100 clients have not advertised on the platform in the past two weeks, data shows.

He also fired the people who protect your data. I don't want to get hacked so I left Twitter.

@r52...

"Lets put this into perspective — at the beginning of this month, Twitter had 7,400 employees. Barely half way through the month, if 75% do actually stick to their decision today, the company will have shrunk by a whopping ~88%."

"What happens if Elon Musk succeeds at Twitter?"

Snakes will fly on planes.

Dogs and cats will collude together.

You'll have to buy pig shit proof umbrellas.

I don't think anyone here even has a definition of what they mean when they say "succeed."

What does "succeeding at Twitter" even involve?

[quote]Well, he got rid of the pedos.

What the fuck? Where did you even come up with that?

[quote] And the censorship seriously only ever focused on certain types of accounts.

I'm still awaiting the return of five accounts I know who were banned unfairly and none of them were the Repugs who have been squealing like stuck pigs about how they'd been censored and shadowbanned. The rightwing nutjob lie about how they were victimized by Twitter's leftist censors is ridiculous.

The big problem with Elon is that he bought into the lie, he thought Twitter was run by evil leftist overlords, and he's slowly finding out that it was actually run by dudes who wanted to make money. He'll never admit that it was a lie -- that's obvious after his idiotic story yesterday about how he WOULD have fixed Twitter had a cabal of leftist organizations just held up their end of some unspecified bargain -- but he will eventually realize that Twitter wasn't some kind of far-left spook org.

He'll get Twitter mostly operational, have moderation policies that prioritize hate speech over everything else, get sued a few times, and probably turn it into a subscription-only pornhaus for a brief period, before realizing everyone has wandered off.

R58 Twitter consistently turning a profit and not going bankrupt.

R7, not really. Advertisers have been steadily jumping ship. They don't want to waste their money there advertising to the influx of bots and extremists, it's useless. It's becoming nothing but a cesspool. Pre Musk, 90% of Twitters revenue was from ads.

His monthly charge for a badge initiative failed immediately and rendered it completely useless at all going forward, paid or not. Real users are leaving in droves and the site is being swamped with bots and trolls.

Musk himself has revealed himself as being completely unhinged as well. The remaining staff have begin quitting on their own rather than waiting around to get let go.

Also, OP, sadly other big tech companies are engaging in massive layoffs, but it's completely unrelated to Twitter and Musk.

Amazon is about to layoff about 10k employees because of Siri more or less failing. They were selling Siri devices at a loss for a decade now and it never generated the anticipated revenue it was expected to.

[quote]Do all tech companies engage in massive layoffs?

Many have already started layoffs but they are not as chaotic as Musk has been with Twitter. If Twitter is successful it will go public again and relisted on the stock exchange and Musk and other investors will get their money back.

Define "succeed."

I doubt he'll ever get it back to what it was in any form. Too many users have deactivated, too much institutional knowledge was lost from all the firings, resignations and layoffs, too many advertisers were lost who will never be back. The $8 blue check debacle drove away anyone who wasn't a Musk fanatic or a complete troll.

Twitter might survive in some form, maybe as a right wing subscriber-based outfit of some sort, but even that seems unlikely. It never turned a profit before and it certainly won't turn one now without becoming subscriber based. It will never run just on ads because no company wants their ads appearing besides Nazi rants from incels.

R62 here, I meant Alexa, not Siri with regards to Amazon. Sorry for the mixup.

“Should Twitter offer a general amnesty to suspended accounts, provided that they have not broken the law or engaged in egregious spam?”

Um, you just let tRump back on and banned Kathy Griffin...

Too bad it's no longer a public traded company. Musk is going to be able to hide the cratering numbers in ad revenue.

[Quote] A number of prominent ad agencies have advised their clients to put a pause on using Twitter as an ad vehicle. The Verge reported that Omnicom, one of the world’s largest ad agencies with over 5,000 global clients, cautioned their clientele about Twitter’s new verification decision. The ad agency cited the departure of top -level executives, brand safety and fake verification accounts among other reasons. Among Omnicom’s clients include McDonald’s, AppleAAPL +0.6%, Mercedes-Benz and PepsiCoPEP +0.1%.

[Quote] Digiday reports WPP’s GroupM, the world’s largest ad agency, has told their clients that Twitter has become a “high-risk” buy.

r25, Elon just posted what he found in a closet a Twitter HQ:

[quote] The Verge reported that Omnicom, one of the world’s largest ad agencies with over 5,000 global clients, cautioned their clientele about Twitter’s new verification decision

Omnicom better be careful. They could end up getting sued.

The only things I see in my feed today are tweets from NYT, NPR, and a couple of other news outlets and newspapers with some trashy sports betting ads interspersed among them. I thought about it, realized that I don't really need Twitter for that, just the apps for those content providers, set them up to send notifications, and then I deactivated my account.

Read Mattias Desmet's "The Psychology of Totalitarianism". Woke is actually a euphemism for the effects of mass formation psychosis. Basically, because of excessive anxiety and aggression, some people are prone to do, say or believe anything at all to feel a part of a fictitious social contract. Hitler, Stalin and Mua Zedung learned to use this phenomenon to get wealth and power; for a while.

Mao Zedung :)

Thanks for your far right perspective, R71. Now, fuck back off to 8chan.

You mean this Mathias Desmet, a conspiracy theorist who appeared on Infowars:

Delete your accounts, twats.

Comic relief

r74 The Mattias Desmet from the Ghent University Dept. of Psychoanalysis and Clinical Consulting. The one with 115 publications and 1,655 professional citations. Of course you all know it's true. The question is do we fix it or does it fix us?