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THEATRE GOSSIP # 503 - Dear Reba McEntire

Guess we’ll continue this thread with a Reba name, since no one else was “quick on the trigger”. Continue discussion of Follies, Beanie, Kimberly Akimbo, and Lea. Previous thread linked below:

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by Anonymousreply 578November 29, 2022 2:07 PM

The correct formatting/title would have been—THEATRE GOSSIP #503: The "Dear Reba McEntire" Edition.

I hate to be a hall monitor, but it must be said.

by Anonymousreply 1November 21, 2022 7:58 PM

an empty vessel, r1?

by Anonymousreply 2November 21, 2022 8:13 PM

In the middle of a long discussion about Sondheim's drinking and cocaine use, which could have offered inspiration for an interesting title, we get...another title about Reba.

No comment.

by Anonymousreply 3November 21, 2022 8:22 PM

Absolut Citron, not Lemon

by Anonymousreply 4November 21, 2022 8:25 PM

Also, FYI--one reason to put the link to the previous thread in r1 instead of the OP is that these theatre gossip threads keep getting crossed out, so if the link is in the first post, it won't be shown or clickable.

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by Anonymousreply 5November 21, 2022 8:32 PM

OP- What an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 6November 21, 2022 8:35 PM

I think this settles why Stephen Sondheim hated Elaine Stritch.

Drinks hate other drinks

by Anonymousreply 7November 21, 2022 8:41 PM

At the memorial, Jonathan Tunick spoke of Sondheim drinking him under the table.

by Anonymousreply 8November 21, 2022 9:05 PM

One more, because this one's nice.

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by Anonymousreply 9November 21, 2022 9:09 PM

If you had the mother Sondheim had, you'd probably drink yourself silly, too.

by Anonymousreply 10November 21, 2022 9:10 PM

R3 is correct. Time to pack up the tired Reba BS and move into this century.

OP: you kinda suck at thread titles.

by Anonymousreply 11November 21, 2022 9:12 PM

All of the pearl clutching about drinking and drugs is hilarious. Aren't most of you old enough to remember the 60s, 70s and 80s?

by Anonymousreply 12November 21, 2022 9:15 PM

As if LuPone wasn't coked out of her mind during Evita.

by Anonymousreply 13November 21, 2022 9:17 PM

[quote]I hate to be a hall monitor, but it must be said.

No it didn't.

by Anonymousreply 14November 21, 2022 9:21 PM

"His criticism was mainly aimed at Jerry Herman for writing too lyrical a piece for a character--Mack Sennett-- who's too earthy and selfish to think of expressing himself so openly."

Which is why I don't read Mordden's books. "Openly?" Sennett warns Mabel not to become involved with him and, damn, he's proven absolutely right. About as lyrical as a mortician's slab.

by Anonymousreply 15November 21, 2022 10:18 PM

Thanks, R15. What Sennett is openly expressing in the song is a warning that he cannot be openly expressive of his love for Mabel. It's a brilliant and probably unique song in that way, and it's pretty shocking if Mordden or anyone else who purports to be any sort of expert on musical theater is unable to understand why.

by Anonymousreply 16November 21, 2022 10:29 PM

So...we're going back there are we?

by Anonymousreply 17November 21, 2022 10:32 PM

Yes, Steve liked vodka at home, a nice white while out. He enjoyed some weed during his final relationship after staying away from it for many years. The widow enjoyed good coke, but slowed down considerably when it became a problem. You were never judged about your vices at the Sondheim house, your choice of favorite films on the other hand…

by Anonymousreply 18November 21, 2022 10:34 PM

Thanks to whoever posted that wonderful link in the last thread of Maria Friedman singing "Saga of Jenny" in that late 1990s production of LADY IN THE DARK. I thought she was absolutely sensational and held the stage without a lot of scenic, lighting, and special effects nor legions of chorus boys.

It amazes me the range of roles female stars in the UK, like Friedman, Imelda Staunton and Elaine Paige, for example, have gotten to play on prominent London stages. They're not always great, of course, but I find it impressive that they're afforded all those opportunities.

by Anonymousreply 19November 21, 2022 10:38 PM

More please, R18!

by Anonymousreply 20November 21, 2022 10:39 PM

I’m curious about the marriage between Sondheim and Jeff. I can’t imagine them having sex…so was it just companionship?

by Anonymousreply 21November 21, 2022 10:48 PM

R21 what're ya doin'? Writin' a book?

by Anonymousreply 22November 21, 2022 10:56 PM

R21, I can imagine it...it's really hot.

by Anonymousreply 23November 21, 2022 10:57 PM

Coke made a strong return along the Broadway campus during the late 90’s and onward, the entire cast of Fosse basically had their dealer living backstage! There are a few notorious coke fiends still snorting away in certain theater spot bathrooms, although it is sort of boring again for most.

by Anonymousreply 24November 21, 2022 10:58 PM

Wasn't one of the ensemble actually dealing backstage, R24?

I won't give a name in case I'm wrong. But it was a woman.

by Anonymousreply 25November 21, 2022 11:06 PM

I thought Lapine wrote about Sondheim's aversion to pot in putting it together(but it has been awhile since I read it so I'm probably wrong)

by Anonymousreply 26November 21, 2022 11:07 PM

If by "aversion" you mean sharing a doobie most afternoons with Lapine upstairs at Playwrights Horizons, R26....

by Anonymousreply 27November 21, 2022 11:09 PM

OP You fucking suck cunts.

by Anonymousreply 28November 21, 2022 11:28 PM

R25 YES! No powered cheap either, nice and rocky, thank the Lord they had plenty of strainers!

by Anonymousreply 29November 21, 2022 11:48 PM

^powdered, typing sober sucks.

by Anonymousreply 30November 21, 2022 11:49 PM

I hope Sondheim's drug and alcohol use didn't hasten his early death.

by Anonymousreply 31November 22, 2022 12:02 AM

Oh, please, r21, do you actually think anyone on DL knows the details of his sex life?

by Anonymousreply 32November 22, 2022 12:05 AM

I know his husband and it was a real marriage in every sense.

by Anonymousreply 33November 22, 2022 12:14 AM

Hot.

by Anonymousreply 34November 22, 2022 12:16 AM

My prejudice is showing, but was there a lot of drug use at Rent?

by Anonymousreply 35November 22, 2022 12:59 AM

That's nice to hear, r33.

by Anonymousreply 36November 22, 2022 1:00 AM

Well Jeff is a stronger man than I because I found 1985 Sondheim attractive but that doesn’t mean I wanted to have anal sex with 2012 Sondheim

by Anonymousreply 37November 22, 2022 1:05 AM

who cares, r37?

by Anonymousreply 38November 22, 2022 1:38 AM

Who said there was anal sex? It may just have been some nipple tweaking by the end.

by Anonymousreply 39November 22, 2022 1:39 AM

Sondheim has spoken openly over the years about using both pot and vodka as intrinsic parts of his creative process. It's not shocking that Feinstein uttered it, it's more shocking that the fraus are clutching pearls over something that Steve himself freely admitted to.

Now regarding the coke use, that's an entirely new one to me. And I've been around his inner circles the last two decades...never has coke been whispered as one of his creative tools. Pot and booze surely, but the coke thing seems like a stretch. Not to say he didn't dabble like every other creative in the 70s/80s, but Steve's tonic was vodka.

However, to what extent he'd booze at home while writing is anyone's guess!

by Anonymousreply 40November 22, 2022 1:41 AM

2012 Sondheim? He died in 2021.

by Anonymousreply 41November 22, 2022 2:18 AM

[quote]Steve's tonic was vodka

No wonder I woke up in his dungeon with my underwear missing when he invited me over for a couple of gin-and-tonics after a preview.

by Anonymousreply 42November 22, 2022 2:26 AM

Toast of the Town

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by Anonymousreply 43November 22, 2022 2:28 AM

R40, agreed, it wasn’t him using the cocaine, it truly was various flavors of Absolut that was his enjoyment.

by Anonymousreply 44November 22, 2022 2:29 AM

Former Village Voice critic and OBIE chair Michael Feingold died.

by Anonymousreply 45November 22, 2022 3:04 AM

Wow.

by Anonymousreply 46November 22, 2022 3:24 AM

How could they tell, r45?

by Anonymousreply 47November 22, 2022 3:42 AM

If anything kept Sondheim from productivity, it wasn't booze or pot. It was the fact that he appeared to have answered every fucking letter he received since the 1950's. I had no idea the man would respond to seemingly everyone. Makes me wish I'd written him at some point.

by Anonymousreply 48November 22, 2022 3:57 AM

He answered all my letters. I treasure the replies.

by Anonymousreply 49November 22, 2022 4:14 AM

First audience chatter from the NYTW Merrily first preview is in, and Daniel Radcliffe’s vocals are exactly what you’d expect them to be.

by Anonymousreply 50November 22, 2022 5:16 AM

Critical chatter to pass on:

& JULIET is getting the business at the box office from young/non-traditional audiences that everyone expected K-POP to get.... but isn't.

by Anonymousreply 51November 22, 2022 5:20 AM

[quote]I’m curious about the marriage between Sondheim and Jeff. I can’t imagine them having sex…so was it just companionship?

Jeff was/is attracted to MUCH older men. It wasn't all an act to get at the Sondheim millions.

by Anonymousreply 52November 22, 2022 5:29 AM

[quote]No wonder I woke up in his dungeon with my underwear missing when he invited me over for a couple of gin-and-tonics after a preview.

Those Sondheim dungeon jokes never get stale!

by Anonymousreply 53November 22, 2022 5:57 AM

Michael Feingold review from a series "Old Movies for Theater Lovers," typically packed with fun and arcane lore and an effusive love for the arts.

"I am something of a hermit by nature, and I was never wholly comfortable with the New York critical fraternity’s old-time habit of clustering together and muttering comments on the piece under review that evening."

RIP

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by Anonymousreply 54November 22, 2022 7:25 AM

R.I.P. Michael Feingold.

Here is a perceptive piece he wrote after the death of fellow drama critic, John Simon. You can get a good sense of Feingold's evenhanded approach to criticism by the way he excoriates and laments Simon's joyless and bitter career.

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by Anonymousreply 55November 22, 2022 9:10 AM

I've never understood the esteem and importance the NY theatre establishment placed on critics. (Or more accurately, used to: no one gives a damn about critics in 2022, or even about reviews). Remember Frank RIch when he reviewed theatre ? They used to name Bway theatres after them, for heaven's sake.

by Anonymousreply 56November 22, 2022 2:45 PM

Jinxx Monsoon joining Chicago as Mama Morton.

by Anonymousreply 57November 22, 2022 3:05 PM

I guess she hasn't the notes for Mary Sunshine.

by Anonymousreply 58November 22, 2022 3:08 PM

John Simon was the bitchiest straight man ever. When told of the Glenn Close TV version of "South Pacific," he responded, "Who's she playing...Lieutenant Cable?"

by Anonymousreply 59November 22, 2022 4:52 PM

Who has won more undeserved Tony Awards, Audra McDonald or Comden & Green?

by Anonymousreply 60November 22, 2022 5:58 PM

Bernadette Peter.

by Anonymousreply 61November 22, 2022 5:59 PM

Recall walking out of night, mother, towards Broadway and looking up to see John Simon right next to me. We got to the corner of 45th and Broadway, when I looked up at him and said, "If you hate this play, I will never read NY Magazine again. And I'll find you".

by Anonymousreply 62November 22, 2022 6:08 PM

R60. Audra. Lousy actress. Great singer though.

by Anonymousreply 63November 22, 2022 6:31 PM

Watch Audra in "WIT" on HBO. She is sublime.

by Anonymousreply 64November 22, 2022 7:23 PM

[quote]Who has won more undeserved Tony Awards, Audra McDonald or Comden & Green?

Someone has a stick up his ass today.

by Anonymousreply 65November 22, 2022 7:37 PM

[quote]I've never understood the esteem and importance the NY theatre establishment placed on critics. (Or more accurately, used to: no one gives a damn about critics in 2022, or even about reviews). Remember Frank RIch when he reviewed theatre ? They used to name Bway theatres after them, for heaven's sake.

Simple explanation: Back in the day, the theater establishment felt that a couple of critics made enough of a worthy contribution to the art form through their reviews that they deserved to have theaters named after them. You're free to disagree with that practice, and anyway, now the Brooks Atkinson one has been renamed for Lena Horne.

by Anonymousreply 66November 22, 2022 7:49 PM

If you go back and read Brooks Atkinson's reviews, written on opening night on deadline, his ability to recognize and assess great work is really remarkable. He starts to falter a bit as he gets to around 1960, but his reviews are largely impressive. Bit of a bummer that he lost the honor of having a theatre named in his honor.

Now Walter Kerr - a wonderful writer with terrible taste - should never have had a theatre named for him. I read his reviews and was astounded by the number of shows he trashed that became classics.

by Anonymousreply 67November 22, 2022 8:21 PM

Walter Kerr was tone-deaf, so his reviews of musicals were generally clueless.

by Anonymousreply 68November 22, 2022 8:28 PM

Just received notice that the first preview of The Collaboration set for 11/29 was cancelled with no further details. Any gossip?

by Anonymousreply 69November 22, 2022 8:51 PM

[quote] Someone has a stick up his ass today.

Or doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 70November 22, 2022 8:56 PM

I prefer Audra's acting to her singing.

by Anonymousreply 71November 22, 2022 9:21 PM

I like Audra as a person and as an actress but I don’t love her voice either.

People keep clamoring for her to play Rose.

Not me

by Anonymousreply 72November 22, 2022 9:25 PM

Going to see 1776 tomorrow. Can't wait!

by Anonymousreply 73November 22, 2022 9:45 PM

Covid cases in the company is the reason for The Collaboration delay.

by Anonymousreply 74November 22, 2022 10:09 PM

If I had Hepburn as a neighbor, I’d be drunk or stoned half the time as well.

by Anonymousreply 75November 22, 2022 10:13 PM

Was it Kerr who wrote about a musical:

"There were a lot of obstacles in getting this musical to the stage. Some in the cast sacrificed their salaries to make sure the curtain would go up. Then the worst thing of all happened......the curtain went up."

by Anonymousreply 76November 22, 2022 10:13 PM

Elaine Stritch finally created a leading lady role in musical comedy via the work of Kerr, right?

by Anonymousreply 77November 22, 2022 10:15 PM

Is this a coup de theatre, elder show queens?

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by Anonymousreply 78November 22, 2022 10:17 PM

So, how did Walter Kerr ever come to have a theater named for him? And wasn't this long before the naming of the Richard Rodgers Theatre?

Did NO ONE want to name a theatre for Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Ethel Merman or Mary Martin (to name just 4 obvious candidates) before Walter Kerr got his? Really seems kind of shocking. I can't quite comprehend the politics here.

by Anonymousreply 79November 22, 2022 10:17 PM

The wheat field in YOU WILL GET SICK wants to be a coup de theatre, but it really isn't; the reveal is underwhelming.

by Anonymousreply 80November 22, 2022 11:07 PM

Thanks R74

by Anonymousreply 81November 22, 2022 11:08 PM

Not So Fun Fact: Jinkx Monsoon and DL Icon Sara "only giving 70%" Porkalob are both graduates of the same expensive arts college in Seattle!

They don't appear to be friends.

by Anonymousreply 82November 23, 2022 1:46 AM

So the cast recording of Funny Girl featuring Lea Michelle is getting raves. Like really good reviews.

Has anyone heard from Beanie ? (seriously, not a joke)

by Anonymousreply 83November 23, 2022 2:01 AM

[quote] Did NO ONE want to name a theatre for Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Ethel Merman or Mary Martin

Williams was a fag, Miller was a Jew, Merman was a cvnt and Martin was a lady licker.

Next question?

by Anonymousreply 84November 23, 2022 2:07 AM

Who thinks that FUNNY GIRL recording is good?!?!

by Anonymousreply 85November 23, 2022 2:11 AM

Hugh still out of TMM

by Anonymousreply 86November 23, 2022 2:20 AM

Jinkx Monsoon IS Matron Mama Morton!!!!

by Anonymousreply 87November 23, 2022 2:25 AM

Jinx Falkenburg IS...dead...to ME!!!!

by Anonymousreply 88November 23, 2022 2:37 AM

Heres one r85

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by Anonymousreply 89November 23, 2022 2:49 AM

Broadwayworld...

by Anonymousreply 90November 23, 2022 2:51 AM

Anyone who would write "Fanny-Tastic" should be fired.

by Anonymousreply 91November 23, 2022 3:09 AM

[quote]Not So Fun Fact: Jinkx Monsoon and DL Icon Sara "only giving 70%" Porkalob are both graduates of the same expensive arts college in Seattle!

Now, don't you shortchange Porkalob! She said that she gives a whopping 75 percent, not a mere 70!

by Anonymousreply 92November 23, 2022 3:11 AM

[quote]Walter Kerr was tone-deaf, so his reviews of musicals were generally clueless.

I wonder how he would've reviewed Beanie's "Funny Girl."

by Anonymousreply 93November 23, 2022 3:36 AM

[quote] Who thinks that FUNNY GIRL recording is good?!?!

The kids on Broadway World are going nuts for it, as if it's the greatest cast album ever made. I listened to it once for curiosity's sake, and never intend to listen to it again. There's no need.

by Anonymousreply 94November 23, 2022 3:37 AM

[quote]Hugh still out of TMM

Hugh was doing Thoroughly Modern Millie somewhere?

by Anonymousreply 95November 23, 2022 3:56 AM

I'd love to see Millie. Missed it the first time. Mainly I love Harriet Harris as batshit crazy Mrs Meers. Would that character be considered offensive now, if she was always supposed to be a piss poor imitation of an Asian by what's clearly a bad actress character...?

Who is Hugh's understudy?

I listened to People and Parade and Lea was good but annoying as usual with the gasps and dramatic tics and Barbra isms.

Any Phantom dish?

by Anonymousreply 96November 23, 2022 5:37 AM

[quote]Who is Hugh's understudy?

Matt Doyle's husband.

by Anonymousreply 97November 23, 2022 1:02 PM

James Norton is hot as fuck, but not even he could get me to see that A LITTLE LIFE shit.

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by Anonymousreply 98November 23, 2022 1:22 PM

Jeez, did I miss the posting of the Sondheim memorial?

by Anonymousreply 99November 23, 2022 2:28 PM

[quote] Who is Hugh's understudy?

Max Clayton

by Anonymousreply 100November 23, 2022 2:31 PM

Did Doyle and Clayton get married or are they still engaged?

by Anonymousreply 101November 23, 2022 2:39 PM

Anyone joining the Broadway Book Club? We can read each one of the plays, gather here, and agree that every single one of them suck, and go back to reminiscing about FOLLIES

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by Anonymousreply 102November 23, 2022 2:50 PM

Isn't James Norton just a tad too old to be playing one of those boys in A Little Life?

by Anonymousreply 103November 23, 2022 2:52 PM

James Norton is fucking hot but apparently straight

by Anonymousreply 104November 23, 2022 3:06 PM

The grosses on Broadway are either feast or famine. On the famine end: A Christmas Carol ($218,944.00), Walking with Ghosts ($262,122.40), Topdog/Underdog ($265,167.00) and K-Flop ($127,261.70).

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by Anonymousreply 105November 23, 2022 3:28 PM

Audra is the most over awarded Tony winner who arguably should only have one or two of those awards, without doubt. However, I agree with R64. She was incredible in the HBO Wit with Emma, and I think she gets stronger as a screen actress as she ages. I find her compelling and interesting on screen in a way that I don’t find her at all on stage, and that includes her singing which outside of Carousel never worked for me.

by Anonymousreply 106November 23, 2022 3:36 PM

Funny Girl is outgrossing Wicked and has consistently been sitting at 1.6 mil a week. A pretty incredible comeback for a show that was written off as dead. What will they mount for Lea if she chooses to stick around on Broadway, say two seasons from now? Does she look for a new show or a revival? Is there really anyone who could write a show for her? That style is pretty much dead and gone on Broadway.

Also, I would have paid money for a John Simon review of Beanie. Can you imagine? It would have been fucking epic.

by Anonymousreply 107November 23, 2022 3:53 PM

The Funny Girl grosses are impressive. I thought Lea was terrific, but as I sat there, I was struck by (from what I was hearing around me) how much the Lea/Rachel in Glee/Rachel in Glee on Broadway in "Funny Girl" was playing into the audience's experience/joy.

by Anonymousreply 108November 23, 2022 6:08 PM

The Little Mermaid on Broadway starring Lea Michele

by Anonymousreply 109November 23, 2022 6:11 PM

Lea is also sticking around until the end of May with a one week vacation in February. That’s pretty impressive considering some replacements sign on for only 2 or 3 months and, sometimes, even less.

by Anonymousreply 110November 23, 2022 7:08 PM

On this day in 1964 Bajour opened at The Shubert Theatre for 232 performances.

BAJOUR!

by Anonymousreply 111November 23, 2022 7:13 PM

Well, R110, considering that Lea seemed to have come thisclose to being completely canceled for her apparently horrendous behavior and attitude, I don't think it's all that impressive or surprising that she's perfectly happy to remain as the lauded star of a Broadway show in her dream role for a while. She may well consider herself VERY lucky that FG played out for her the way it did, and I don't think we should assume that TV and film offers have necessarily begun pouring in for her.

by Anonymousreply 112November 23, 2022 7:17 PM

For those still looking for TMO stuff, I found a site that had several more videos that I hadn't seen before. Seriously, everybody was filming the thing. There's one of the main shower scene (combined with another view that was already posted), one of the JW/MO scene, then one that has closer views of both.

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by Anonymousreply 113November 23, 2022 7:18 PM

Like I'm doing to download something from a WeTranser file on DL. Not even with a condom!

by Anonymousreply 114November 23, 2022 7:28 PM

Happy Birthday, Bajour!

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by Anonymousreply 115November 23, 2022 7:33 PM

FF R113

by Anonymousreply 116November 23, 2022 7:35 PM

[quote] I would have paid money for a John Simon review of Beanie. Can you imagine? It would have been fucking epic.

Like her ass.

by Anonymousreply 117November 23, 2022 7:38 PM

Back at you, r116.

Given how much the grosses have fallen since the original leak, the producers would probably be glad for anything to get that attention back. (Hmmm...maybe I'm a marketing intern for the show...)

by Anonymousreply 118November 23, 2022 7:45 PM

The producers grossly misjudged the interest in a leaked dick pic and should have never brought back Take Me Out. It only did as well as it did last season because of the subscriber base and even that wasn't all that great. You cannot give tickets away to it now.

by Anonymousreply 119November 23, 2022 7:48 PM

Doyle in Little Shop photos. Some claimed in previous threads this would be just another case of too-attractive guy with glasses in the role, but he looks fittingly nerdy to me.

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by Anonymousreply 120November 23, 2022 7:49 PM

TAKE ME OUT

Starring

JON HAMM

THAT will fill those seats!

by Anonymousreply 121November 23, 2022 7:50 PM

I enjoyed Titanique well enough, but I'm not sure this was the best showcase for them. They didn't seem to get any laughs from the audience, which made it fall a bit flat.

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by Anonymousreply 122November 23, 2022 7:54 PM

Tickets for Merrily have been popping up on the NYTW website over the past 24 hours, for anyone who wants to see Groff spray saliva all over his costars. Might be too late (again), but you might luck out.

by Anonymousreply 123November 23, 2022 8:03 PM

The BroadwayWorld chat board is gushing about Merrily.

by Anonymousreply 124November 23, 2022 8:21 PM

Tweets about Merrily have all been raves.

Will it transfer for a limited run in the spring? Lindsay Mendez needs a second Tony.

by Anonymousreply 125November 23, 2022 8:26 PM

Lindsay Mendez needs to bid on a Deal a Meal on Ebay.

by Anonymousreply 126November 23, 2022 8:28 PM

Curtain call...

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by Anonymousreply 127November 23, 2022 8:30 PM

Jesus, Radcliffe is barely up to Groff’s shoulder. Didn’t realize he was that tiny.

by Anonymousreply 128November 23, 2022 8:32 PM

Radcliffe bottoming for Groff would be so hot on paper.

Too bad Groff is a big ole bottom.

by Anonymousreply 129November 23, 2022 8:34 PM

She's playing Mary, r126, not Roxie Hart.

by Anonymousreply 130November 23, 2022 8:34 PM

[quote]Isn't James Norton just a tad too old to be playing one of those boys in A Little Life?

the book and play follow the four guys from college until they're in their 50's.

The van Hove Dutch version at BAM did little or nothing to age the actors over the decades

One valid criticism of that production is that he actor playing the protagonist Jude was not handsome enough to have the charisma that drew the other characters to love Jude so passionately. Norton will fix that.

by Anonymousreply 131November 23, 2022 8:47 PM

Here's the thing about "Merrily..."

It's still backwards. No matter who's performing....

by Anonymousreply 132November 23, 2022 9:30 PM

Of course, MERRILY will transfer to Broadway. Why in heaven's name would it not? I'm sure everyone involved finally wants to get paid some decent money.

by Anonymousreply 133November 23, 2022 10:42 PM

I don’t know if Merrily would make money though. Radcliff will sell tickets but even Into the Woods is struggling after Sara left

by Anonymousreply 134November 23, 2022 11:07 PM

Doyle looks like a shortbus student

by Anonymousreply 135November 24, 2022 12:00 AM

[quote] She may well consider herself VERY lucky that FG played out for her the way it did, and I don't think we should assume that TV and film offers have necessarily begun pouring in for her.

Film offers, no. She’s never going to be a film actress but I’m sure there will be some TV offers given her success here. That’s probably a year out or so. I’m wondering if producers will approach her now though about mounting something for stage and if she’ll even want to stay.

by Anonymousreply 136November 24, 2022 12:09 AM

Maybe a live NBC production of Funny Girl next year?

by Anonymousreply 137November 24, 2022 12:27 AM

Radcliffe is NOT aging well.

by Anonymousreply 138November 24, 2022 12:42 AM

I think a fabulous ad campaign could be made for MERRILY on Broadway, prominently featuring Radcliffe and Groff and Sondheim's music. Even though many potential ticket buyers won't know the music, I think snippets could sound gorgeous and intriguing and even catchy in the right ad.

Now, whether or not there's an ad agency that could pull that off in this day and age is another issue.

by Anonymousreply 139November 24, 2022 1:17 AM

Use a snatch of the overture.

by Anonymousreply 140November 24, 2022 1:18 AM

I will say, the photo at R127 is exactly how I would imagine an ideal Charley, Franklin, and Mary to look like. Very inspired casting.

by Anonymousreply 141November 24, 2022 1:21 AM

Jesus Radcliff looks like Roy Cohn in the last half of Angels in America in that photo

by Anonymousreply 142November 24, 2022 1:34 AM

Lea might, if she's lucky, have the career her Glee costars Idina Menzel or Cheno have had. If she keeps doing shows every so often, and mixes in a TV appearance here and there, plus some club dates, she may cobble together something.

But she needs to learn to collaborate, and let go of the idea that she's a star. And she's starting this game kind of late, so she may only have a short run for the gold.

Then again, if she's now focusing on being a mom, she may like the flexibility of being Not The Star. Who knows if her sanity wins over her ego.

by Anonymousreply 143November 24, 2022 1:35 AM

She'll be a Mom character on a reboot of GLEE. A Candace Cameron without the relgiosity.

by Anonymousreply 144November 24, 2022 1:42 AM

*religiosity

by Anonymousreply 145November 24, 2022 1:42 AM

R142 He looks fine in the official poster.

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by Anonymousreply 146November 24, 2022 1:49 AM

I think Franklin should be hunky.

by Anonymousreply 147November 24, 2022 1:54 AM

R147 We all think stupid things once in awhile.

by Anonymousreply 148November 24, 2022 1:56 AM

Lindsey Mendez is NOT a Mary! She's not a Gussie, she's not a Beth. She has no business being in this show.

by Anonymousreply 149November 24, 2022 2:02 AM

In the original "Merrily..." there was a character named "Franklin Shepard (at age 43)" Is there anyone who can explain what that role was? I thought the same actors played their characters all the way through? Was it like Dream Laurey or Dead Skipper?

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by Anonymousreply 150November 24, 2022 2:04 AM

No, r150, He was at the beginning and the end, as the guest speaker for the graduation ceremony at his old HS. He gives a speech that the students hate because it's so negative. The framing device has been cut since the original. (as far as I know...I haven't seen every production.)

by Anonymousreply 151November 24, 2022 2:08 AM

Idina and Lea in THE RINK!

by Anonymousreply 152November 24, 2022 2:08 AM

Lindsay Menedez has an unfortunate face.

by Anonymousreply 153November 24, 2022 2:11 AM

And that's why she aimed for Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 154November 24, 2022 2:14 AM

[quote]Lindsey Mendez is NOT a Mary! She's not a Gussie, she's not a Beth. She has no business being in this show.

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 155November 24, 2022 2:30 AM

Lindsay Mendez has a hairy pussy!

by Anonymousreply 156November 24, 2022 2:50 AM

In that picture at R127 Radcliffe looks like Tom Schumacher.

by Anonymousreply 157November 24, 2022 3:13 AM

Jonathan Groff looks like a Mormon missionary. White shirt and dark pants? Who costumed this show?

by Anonymousreply 158November 24, 2022 3:18 AM

[quote]Jonathan Groff looks like a Mormon missionary. White shirt and dark pants? Who costumed this show?

Someone who's aware that it's a period piece, which apparently you are not.

by Anonymousreply 159November 24, 2022 3:30 AM

Every Broadway publicist and advertising agency is stuck in the world of analog media, and none of them know anything about major online outlets, podcasts , or anything else from the past 20 years and they work for producers who don’t either

by Anonymousreply 160November 24, 2022 3:53 AM

R150, I'm really surprised you don't know the answer to that question. Haven't you ever heard the original Broadway cast recording of MERRILY?

by Anonymousreply 161November 24, 2022 3:59 AM

R161 Oh, leave her.

Friedman directed this revival? Fuck, I hated the London production.

by Anonymousreply 162November 24, 2022 4:10 AM

The worst thing about Friedman's production of MERRILY in London -- so bad that it really sabotaged the show -- was the set. Incredible that they seem to have basically recreated it at NYTW.

by Anonymousreply 163November 24, 2022 4:17 AM

It’s the exact same production as the London one - sets, costumes, everything. Apparently Radcliffe saw it in London and petitioned to bring it here.

by Anonymousreply 164November 24, 2022 4:44 AM

R164 Stupid, and cannot sing.

by Anonymousreply 165November 24, 2022 5:00 AM

The production wouldn't be happening without him, r165.

by Anonymousreply 166November 24, 2022 5:03 AM

[quote]Now, whether or not there's an ad agency that could pull that off in this day and age is another issue.

Get me McMann & Tate!

by Anonymousreply 167November 24, 2022 5:15 AM

Ha. When I saw the video I wondered why she was singing "Mr. Macy's" instead of "Mr. Macy." I wonder if they'll fix the recording she's lip syncing to by tomorrow. Probably not.

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by Anonymousreply 168November 24, 2022 5:18 AM

R165 He’s also 5’5.

by Anonymousreply 169November 24, 2022 5:19 AM

Direct link

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by Anonymousreply 170November 24, 2022 5:19 AM

Feingold: the only--and I mean ONLY--remaining critic without a tin ear who could write and assess musicals with erudition, passion and, most important of all, taste. RIP, MF.

Silence is the most perfect expression of scorn, r51.

by Anonymousreply 171November 24, 2022 5:29 AM

I'd forgotten that the Village Voice is up and running again. That Miss Saigon review is still a wonderful read.

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by Anonymousreply 172November 24, 2022 6:07 AM

I know I'm in the minority on DL.

But am I the only one who fails to find Mare Winningham less than magical onstage?

And by "less than magical" I mean "self-conscious and annoying."

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by Anonymousreply 173November 24, 2022 6:08 AM

Oh, it's late...

Either "fails to find Mare magical onstage" or "finds Mare less than magical."

You get my drift.

by Anonymousreply 174November 24, 2022 6:09 AM
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by Anonymousreply 175November 24, 2022 9:02 AM

r120 Looks like Gideon Glick

by Anonymousreply 176November 24, 2022 12:54 PM

Did Matt Doyle say anything publily about L.M. Sarfati?

by Anonymousreply 177November 24, 2022 12:59 PM

Who?

by Anonymousreply 178November 24, 2022 1:22 PM

Quotations from critics are the only thing publicists and marketers know how to put in ads. No. One. Cares. Do better. Be creative and exciting.

by Anonymousreply 179November 24, 2022 1:30 PM

That TimeOut review makes it sound like Jane Lynch stormed out with Beanie. She did not. Her contract was up.

by Anonymousreply 180November 24, 2022 1:49 PM

Jane avoided working with Lea. She left before her due date.

by Anonymousreply 181November 24, 2022 1:56 PM

Because it made sense to have Lea and Tovah rehearse and debut together, there would've been little point have Jane do the extra work of rehearsing with Lea just for a few weeks of shows.

by Anonymousreply 182November 24, 2022 1:58 PM

Replacements are put in by the stage manager, not the existing cast.

by Anonymousreply 183November 24, 2022 1:59 PM

Lea is opening the Parade and the audience is cheering. And she sang MR MACYS

by Anonymousreply 184November 24, 2022 2:02 PM

Beanie is eating everything in the house. Lea opened the Macy’s parade with Funny Girl.

by Anonymousreply 185November 24, 2022 2:03 PM

[quote] Someone who's aware that it's a period piece, which apparently you are not.

They didn’t have color in the 1960s through 1980s?

by Anonymousreply 186November 24, 2022 2:05 PM

[quote]She left before her due date.

Isn't Lynch a bit long in the tooth to be with child?

by Anonymousreply 187November 24, 2022 2:19 PM

I love watching the Macy’s parade to see all the white people in the VIP seats

by Anonymousreply 188November 24, 2022 2:22 PM

The Some Like It Hot number makes me want to buy tickets. But where was Christian?

by Anonymousreply 189November 24, 2022 2:23 PM

[quote] The Some Like It Hot number makes me want to buy tickets. But where was Christian

Three black people center stage. They didn’t want white people in the marketing of the show.

by Anonymousreply 190November 24, 2022 2:39 PM

That's very smart. Those people look deathly at this time of year.

by Anonymousreply 191November 24, 2022 2:42 PM

Oh, little Julie Benko got another job! Good for her.

Oh. It was one-night only benefit performance.

Well, still.

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by Anonymousreply 192November 24, 2022 3:09 PM

The last line of that Adam Feldman Funny Girl article is awful and hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 193November 24, 2022 3:50 PM

What is it?

by Anonymousreply 194November 24, 2022 3:51 PM

"If the end is right, it justifies the Bean."

by Anonymousreply 195November 24, 2022 3:54 PM

[quote]Beanie is eating everything in the house.

A normal day then?

by Anonymousreply 196November 24, 2022 3:59 PM

It's too bad they can't always do this outside before a parade. This is much better staging than what they're doing every night at the August Wilson.

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by Anonymousreply 197November 24, 2022 4:55 PM

Stage version for comparison.

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by Anonymousreply 198November 24, 2022 4:57 PM

Is that Beanie in yellow at 0:31 twirling her flag in r197?

by Anonymousreply 199November 24, 2022 5:04 PM

That Adam Feldman review is embarrassing

by Anonymousreply 200November 24, 2022 5:07 PM

r189, Borle isn't in the title number in the show. They could have shoehorned him in like they did in the promotional video, giving him lines someone else usually sings, but probably not worth it to get him in costume and rework the staging to include someone who isn't a big name with a national profile (and may not be recognizable in drag anyway?).

by Anonymousreply 201November 24, 2022 5:17 PM

[quote] Did Matt Doyle say anything publily about L.M. Sarfati?

Oh, DID she. He literally referred to Lea as Satan in an interview last year.

“The show made monsters out of every single one of us, except for Jonathan Groff, because he’s literally like Jesus. Whenever I had to go on for him I used to say it was like going on with Satan, as a replacement for Jesus. I had to go on and deal with the most difficult person and fill in for the greatest man of all. So it was lose lose.”

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by Anonymousreply 202November 24, 2022 5:24 PM

That was cleverly put. Thanks, r202.

by Anonymousreply 203November 24, 2022 5:28 PM

I bet Lea would have been as sweet as pie to Hunter Parrish.

by Anonymousreply 204November 24, 2022 5:29 PM

I could just about sit in the audience and watch Lea do Funny Girl. But I don't think I could sit with THAT audience and watch Lea do Funny Girl.

And that staging is awful......

by Anonymousreply 205November 24, 2022 6:16 PM

Borle wasn't in the parade because he's at home (still) rewriting....

by Anonymousreply 206November 24, 2022 7:31 PM

Maybe if he wrote it backwards...

by Anonymousreply 207November 24, 2022 7:31 PM

It's still forwards...

by Anonymousreply 208November 24, 2022 7:31 PM

Borle is too busy hauling out his oversized package and spanking it in a mirror to focus on his writing...

by Anonymousreply 209November 24, 2022 7:55 PM

Pics?

by Anonymousreply 210November 24, 2022 8:29 PM

Well, R184, to be fair "hey Isidor" doesn't scan very well.

by Anonymousreply 211November 24, 2022 8:57 PM

[Quote] and spanking it in a mirror

I hope he wears a mask. Wouldn't want the mirror to crack.

by Anonymousreply 212November 24, 2022 9:14 PM

True dat, R212. Borle is no oil painting.

by Anonymousreply 213November 24, 2022 9:19 PM

Re: Borle pics. I seem to recall there was an episode of Smash where he walked in front of the camera in little briefs where he had an nice bulge, but I don't remember what episode it was.

by Anonymousreply 214November 24, 2022 9:32 PM

You bitches would all kneel for Borle and present tongue.

by Anonymousreply 215November 24, 2022 9:34 PM

Or hole!

by Anonymousreply 216November 24, 2022 9:47 PM

Borle is a talentless fug.

by Anonymousreply 217November 24, 2022 9:56 PM

...with a big weiner.

by Anonymousreply 218November 24, 2022 9:57 PM

Sondheim's letter to Patti after she offered her views on the Sweeney Todd film

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by Anonymousreply 219November 24, 2022 10:04 PM

[quote]Sondheim's letter to Patti after she offered her views on the Sweeney Todd film

He certainly stated his boundaries!

by Anonymousreply 220November 24, 2022 10:21 PM

She wasn't wrong.

by Anonymousreply 221November 24, 2022 10:35 PM

[quote]She wasn't wrong.

Are you trying to say she was right?

by Anonymousreply 222November 25, 2022 2:19 AM

Patti sent a note to Sondheim or to someone else?

by Anonymousreply 223November 25, 2022 2:20 AM

Turkey lurkey time... with dudes.

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by Anonymousreply 224November 25, 2022 2:28 AM

R224 Grey guy is a beat behind Donna in the front.

R22 You may be right.

by Anonymousreply 225November 25, 2022 2:32 AM

to Sondheim, r222

by Anonymousreply 226November 25, 2022 2:43 AM

Wow at that letter! Sondheim was such a cunt to her in that letter. To tell Patti he didn’t want to invite her to the premiere, but did so only because he didn’t want to hurt her feelings.

by Anonymousreply 227November 25, 2022 2:48 AM

And Patti...*never* did it again.

by Anonymousreply 228November 25, 2022 2:50 AM

It was a screening, not a premiere. And he might have been a cunt to her because she hurt his feelings; he didn't ask her opinion, she just gave it. Apparently he couldn't deal with criticism. This sounds like the Jason Robert Brown and Ricky Ian Gordon incidents.

by Anonymousreply 229November 25, 2022 2:55 AM

I follow all these Sondheim letters on Insta and I'm wondering how they all came to be made public. If someone close to him to decided to release them it could have been with SS's wishes before he died, but then he would have had to make copies of them before mailing them. Obviously, even if Patti still possesses this letter, she wouldn't have wanted it out there.

So, what's the story? Who has all these letters in their possession?

by Anonymousreply 230November 25, 2022 3:00 AM

Sondheim was known to be very unwilling to hear criticism.

Which I can understand to some degree - when one has a vision, you really don't want a sea of people trying to project their lack of imagination onto it. But it has its downfalls, for sure.

by Anonymousreply 231November 25, 2022 3:01 AM

Sondheim had no qualms about dishing other writers--in public if they were dead (like his notes in "Finishing the Hat") or privately, mostly, if they were living (when he was still friends with Arthur Laurents, they'd attend theatre together and were notorious bitches about what they'd seen.)

by Anonymousreply 232November 25, 2022 3:04 AM

[quote]Grey guy is a beat behind Donna in the front.

But he has better handwork than Donna in the front, who is just phoning it in.

by Anonymousreply 233November 25, 2022 3:05 AM

I have a friend who was a very handsome and precocious teen when he was in high school/college in the late 70s/early 80s and he began a letter correspondence with Sondheim, who was initially eager and seemingly flattered to exchange his thoughts and ideas about the Broadway theatre and show music. I believe they even met for coffee or lunch occasionally, though there was no sex (yes, you could be too young!).

But once my friend started asking Steve too many questions as to why he composed things as he did, which just might have veered ever so slightly into criticism, Steve immediately told him off in no uncertain terms and ended their relationship, such as it was.

I'm guessing there were scores of young men like my friend with similar experiences.

by Anonymousreply 234November 25, 2022 3:10 AM

Thanks for that, R202. I hadn't realized that Matt Doyle was yet another SPRING AWAKENING cast member who spoke out publicly against Lea Michele's apparently terrible behavior and horrendous personality.

Which for me prompts the question: What can the atmosphere have been like during rehearsals for that SA reunion concert? From what we can see in the documentary about the show and the reunion, all went smoothly, but I wonder if the people who did speak out against Lea, including Gerard Canonico and Matt Doyle at least, just kept their distance during rehearsals and on the night of the performance?

by Anonymousreply 235November 25, 2022 3:27 AM

And R219, thanks for your post as well. I had heard a rumor at the time that Sondheim had gone off on a star for offering criticism of the SWEENEY TODD movie, but the rumor I heard didn't name the star, and some people guessed it might have been Angela Lansbury. I'm really glad it wasn't her and was instead the notorious Patti Lu, which is not at all surprising.

by Anonymousreply 236November 25, 2022 3:31 AM

Sondheim adored Lansbury. I cannot imagine him sniping at her.

He learned to.... um, like Patti over the years. I guess.

Remember, one rumor was that for the longest time, Patti was on SS' "DNU list." Actors he just didn't want to work with, for any number of reasons. Maybe he simply didn't care for her voice/vocal style (and notorious diction). Maybe her personality.

But then, she sang Fosca in a regional production, and then the Sweeney Todd revival. So there.

by Anonymousreply 237November 25, 2022 3:38 AM

R235 Matt Doyle was not a part of the Spring Awakening reunion, as he wasn’t an ensemble member or swing in the original production, he was only Groff’s understudy. From what he has said in interviews, Lea hated working with any Melchior that wasn’t Groff so being his understudy was a nightmare.

Gerard Canonico was a part of the reunion as he actually was in the original ensemble, so he probably just kept his distance.

by Anonymousreply 238November 25, 2022 3:41 AM

[quote]Sondheim was known to be very unwilling to hear criticism. Which I can understand to some degree - when one has a vision, you really don't want a sea of people trying to project their lack of imagination onto it. But it has its downfalls, for sure.

I can certainly understand Sondheim not wanting to hear any criticism of his work while a show was still in the birthing stages, which if I recall was the situation with Jason Robert Brown. But for him to become nasty and bitchy and to freeze people out for any criticism of his work after it had been finished, no matter how constructively that criticism was expressed, does seem like a major flaw in his character. Maybe it all stems from the fact that his work was either taken for granted or dismissed in his early years -- WEST SIDE STORY, GYPSY, and FORUM -- and that was compounded by the awful reviews for and the tremendous failure of ANYONE CAN WHISTLE?

by Anonymousreply 239November 25, 2022 3:43 AM

Any excuse to repost this favorite Sondheim/Lansbury interview with Jesse Green.

[quote]Speaking of happy families, do you two recall ever having an argument? [quote]S.S.:No, but I don’t remember having arguments with any actor. I mean, I remember Zero Mostel having an argument with me, but I didn’t have an argument with him.

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by Anonymousreply 240November 25, 2022 3:46 AM

[quote]Sondheim adored Lansbury. I cannot imagine him sniping at her.

I know he adored her. But as per several recent stories, he was known to go ballistic towards and/or freeze out people he adored if they said anything critical about his work or about a realization of his work that he liked, and apparently, he LOVED the SWEENEY movie. So I thought it MIGHT have been Lansbury, but I'm very glad to know that it wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 241November 25, 2022 3:47 AM

Thanks, R238. Do you know of any SPRING AWAKENING cast member other than Canonico who went on record about Lea's behavior before the reunion concert was planned?

by Anonymousreply 242November 25, 2022 3:50 AM

Hard to believe he could LOVE the Sweeney movie but I imagine his ego might have been in the way of his objectivity where that is concerned.

by Anonymousreply 243November 25, 2022 3:53 AM

R243. from all reports, he did love the movie, used to screen it for friends at his home. Apparently, he felt it worked beautifully as a movie and, believe it or not, for him that trumped the highly questionable singing of the elads and the elimination of all the choral parts.

by Anonymousreply 244November 25, 2022 4:00 AM

Maybe I'll have to watch it again with the sound off and see how that feels.

by Anonymousreply 245November 25, 2022 4:04 AM

I think he understood that choices were made to widen its audience...and it did.

by Anonymousreply 246November 25, 2022 4:06 AM

R246, although I know what you mean, I think it's debatable how much the audience for the film was widened by having non singers in the leads and by cutting out the chorus. Because the film was not really marketed as a musical, I've heard stories of some people who attended because it was a Johnny Depp/Tim Burton movie but they left after the first two or three songs.

by Anonymousreply 247November 25, 2022 4:12 AM

Many of the musicals Steve wrote by himself, the books are kinda shitty. And he seemed to not be able to see it. Or stop it.

by Anonymousreply 248November 25, 2022 4:14 AM

r248

Is that translated from Mandarin?

by Anonymousreply 249November 25, 2022 4:19 AM

Though I never met Angela Lansbury I have no doubt that she had the grace and intelligence to know when to keep her opinions to herself. Honestly, that's just common sense and an unwritten law amongst theater people of taste and discretion when they attend a friend's show. And that's why Sondheim was justifiably so enraged by Lupone's blundering and uncalled for criticism (whether she was "right" or not doesn't matter).

I think anyone who works in the professional theater can understand this. Most often, you really don't want to to know what your friends think.

by Anonymousreply 250November 25, 2022 4:26 AM

Angela probably enjoyed it as much as Sondheim. She understood the business.

by Anonymousreply 251November 25, 2022 4:44 AM

The Sweeney Todd film was originally going to be longer and include the chorus. Production had to shut down for a while unexpectedly because Johnny Depp’s daughter became gravely ill and was in a London hospital for awhile.

Production started again when she recovered but the film was shortened as a result.

by Anonymousreply 252November 25, 2022 5:12 AM

Did the moron who posted the video on YouTube at R197 really call it "The Macy's Day Parade?"

by Anonymousreply 253November 25, 2022 5:24 AM

[quote]Production started again when she recovered but the film was shortened as a result

Gone was the freewheeling patio number.

by Anonymousreply 254November 25, 2022 5:27 AM

That sounds very inaccurate, R252. It may be true that Depp's daughter was gravely ill, but that wouldn't have affected the presence or absence of a chorus in the film -- especially since the orchestral music for most of the important choral sections is still in the movie, in the "Ballad of Sweeney Todd" at the beginning, "Pirelli's Miracle Elixir," and "God That's Good." So all they had to do was actually record the chorus in a studio, and obviously, Depp didn't have to be around for that.

I've read that the original plan was that the opening "Ballad of Sweeney Todd" would be sung by a chorus of Sweeney's victims, but apparently, at some point Burton decided he didn't want a chorus in the movie at all, and Sondheim bought his arguments.

by Anonymousreply 255November 25, 2022 5:30 AM

I never miss a Tim Burton musical.

by Anonymousreply 256November 25, 2022 6:32 AM

If the SWEENEY film was after the Doyle revival, maybe Patti felt because she had been a Lovett she had the right to comment and that Steve would have been interested?

by Anonymousreply 257November 25, 2022 6:50 AM

But what was the point of commenting about the film? Did Patti think they would re-shoot it to her liking?

by Anonymousreply 258November 25, 2022 6:57 AM

r230 After he died people started posting the letters they got from him, and the SondheimLetters account was created, with people continuing to send their letters in to it, to get some of that sweet sweet internet cred.

Though presumably the Patti one came from Patti.

by Anonymousreply 259November 25, 2022 12:09 PM

Was Patti LUPone in some sort of trance? What would make her think that Stephen Sondheim would want to know why she hated the Sweeney Todd movie?

Rosie O’Donnell tells a similar story about how Marc Shaiman got furious with her when she similarly critiqued the Hairspray movie.

by Anonymousreply 260November 25, 2022 12:22 PM

The Sweeney Todd film worked so much better than I thought it would when I saw it in theaters. The overall look and feel of the film was nearly perfect, and they didn't have to butcher the story to fit the screen. I didn't mind them cutting the opening number and all it's reprises, as those parts would've had to have been sung directly into the camera, which would've been weird and would've taken us out of the story with each reprise. And Depp's raspy singing voice didn't bother me; he sounded like a guy who'd really been through it "down in bloody Australia," like Lucy in Mame.

by Anonymousreply 261November 25, 2022 12:38 PM

No, nothing would have had to be sung directly into the camera. You must have an extremely limited imagination.

by Anonymousreply 262November 25, 2022 1:11 PM

R230, I don't recall the name of the person who began asking (on Twitter and probably other places) that people send copies of letters they'd received so they could all be published on Insta. In addition, this person nosed around and found copies of other letters that had already been made public--including a huge stash of letters that were about to be auctioned by some autograph dealer who somehow came into position of a lot of letters from SS to someone named Larry Miller (possibly from Miller's estate?). All of those appeared early on Insta. So a lot of people who had letters to share did so, and there you are.

by Anonymousreply 263November 25, 2022 1:15 PM

er, "came into possession."

by Anonymousreply 264November 25, 2022 1:23 PM

Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now?

Not sure this will be a hit, but maybe Christie's name will still sell it?

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by Anonymousreply 265November 25, 2022 1:57 PM

I didn't mind the Sweeney Todd movie. I saw it before I saw the show, though.

by Anonymousreply 266November 25, 2022 2:08 PM

[Quote] Apparently he couldn't deal with criticism.

Totally beside the point. What possible benefit would there be to send criticism of a completed film after you have been a guest at a screening of sad film? No one asked you, everyone is nervous enough about how it will land, and shut the fuck up. That has nothing to do with somebody “being able to deal with criticism “. Total lack of class or empathy.

by Anonymousreply 267November 25, 2022 2:17 PM

So Sondheim could be a bitch but not Patti...

by Anonymousreply 268November 25, 2022 2:19 PM

Patti fired the first shot. And was a guest.

by Anonymousreply 269November 25, 2022 2:25 PM

What about Sondheim telling Patti that she wasn't a star live across the British airwaves?

by Anonymousreply 270November 25, 2022 2:26 PM

[quote]So Sondheim could be a bitch but not Patti...

Try and stop me. Just fucking TRY AND STOP ME!

by Anonymousreply 271November 25, 2022 2:30 PM

The bigger question is how did Patti ever manage to get back into Steve's good graces?

by Anonymousreply 272November 25, 2022 2:30 PM

That's not exactly what he said, and likely wasn't what he meant.

And on the Sweeney criticism, what's the point of it once the film's finished? At that point, you say "isn't it wonderful" and go on about your business.

by Anonymousreply 273November 25, 2022 2:31 PM

Yeah, the whole saying she wasn't a star thing doesn't sound like it was intended as bitchiness, but a matter-of-fact description of her drawing power.

by Anonymousreply 274November 25, 2022 2:33 PM

I suspect they had a "professional" friendship, but not necessarily a close personal one. They were near-neighbors in CT and apparently saw one another socially as part of a larger group. She's told stories about being in his company at parties.

by Anonymousreply 275November 25, 2022 2:34 PM

Parade highlights, for those of us who missed it.

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by Anonymousreply 276November 25, 2022 2:35 PM

I had a personal encounter with Sondheim where he lost his temper with me (I was doing research in his home) and it came out of nowhere. Some time later he was over his fit of pique and he seemed to be sorry (without ever saying so). So I think it's possible that he wrote the letter to her in a flash of anger but ended up cooling down over time and letting bygones be bygones.

by Anonymousreply 277November 25, 2022 2:39 PM

I wish I'd known Stephen replied to letters, shit.

by Anonymousreply 278November 25, 2022 2:43 PM

It's absolutely true that, as creatives, there comes a point where we don't really want or need honest feedback. As a filmmaker, I definitely seek out opinions and sounding boards while creating, shaping and putting something together. I'm making it for others so I want to know how they react to it and if those reactions can help strengthen the piece (sometimes yes, sometimes no- the trick is learning how to figure that out).

However, once the piece is done and out there and i've either invited you to come see it or you've seen it on your own, I don't really need to hear any kind of criticism. There's nothing I can do about it at that point, and chances are I already am way ahead of you, know the fault(s) of the piece and, for one reason or another, this was the best I could make happen.

Of course, if I actually pin you down and say- Be honest and tell me XYZ, then no matter what you say, I cannot possibly be upset with you. I asked and brought it on myself. But that rarely happens at the finished stage. And if you don't like it, I can tell no matter what you say, and I will just gracefully accept the congratulations so as to not embarrass either of us.

Patti should have known better, except that as someone who doesn't create (as opposed to interpret), she can find herself easily off the hook for things that don't work. She can say- Hey, I gave it my all, but the director made me do x, or the score let me down and you can only do so much with the material, etc.

It's very possible she looked at this version of Sweeney Todd, assumed (likely correctly) that Sondheim had very little control over what they did to the material and how it was interpreted, and felt she was commiserating with a great artist and how dare they do this to one of his masterpieces, especially since she herself had participated in a very recently well reviewed production of the show. She may have momentarily forgot that Sondheim was still a creator and that she was insulting his creation, even if it wasn't her intention.

I'm not trying to get Patti off the hook; I still maintain that once it's finished, there's no reason to do anything more than smile and say congratulations if you don't like it, but I think she may have been looking at them as peer to peer and felt he needed the kind of bolstering a performer does when they're stuck in a dud.

by Anonymousreply 279November 25, 2022 2:46 PM

Sondheim and LuPone had a very complicated relationship.

She auditioned to replace Bernadette in Sunday in the Park and was not hired.

She auditioned for Cinderella in Into the Woods and was offered the Witch in Into the Woods…but negotiations broke down.

She was offered Passion but had already accepted Sunset Boulevard.

She played Nellie Lovett 3 times in Sweeney Todd. This is when their relationship was warmest.

Sondheim ripped her to shreds during the rehearsal for the live PBS taping for Passion that her singing was “mush” and she has stated that anyone with less experience than her would have turned in her equity card.

Sam Mendes took LuPone out to dinner and offered her Gypsy. Arthur Laurents and Sondheim instead made the offer to Bernadette Peters, who accepted. Patti wrote to Sam and asked him what happened? According to LuPone, he wrote her a very cold letter back saying this was Laurents wish.

Sondheim publicly criticized her Gypsy performance in his book Look I Made a Hat. (Well….it was mostly at Arthur, but also her)

She privately criticized his Sweeney Movie and then he got really upset by that (hence the letter)

Sondheim gave her notes during the Company philharmonic closing party in 2011 that she found extremely hurtful and publicly said “I wanted to smack him”

Lupone desperately wanted to replace Catherine Zeta Jones in A Little Night Music and called Trevor Nunn twice (who did not return her calls.) Sondheim privately reached out to Bernadette Peters instead and offered her the role.

Sondheim told her to her face during a radio interview for the London Company that she wasn’t a name outside the theatre and theatre needs a name to sell tickets.

Sondheim wrote an email to LuPone towards the end saying lovely things to her about her singing and performance that she treasures.

by Anonymousreply 280November 25, 2022 2:46 PM

That's a lot! Thanks, R280.

Those kids both sound pretty high maintenance to me.

by Anonymousreply 281November 25, 2022 2:51 PM

So they're BOTH cunts.

by Anonymousreply 282November 25, 2022 2:52 PM

Whether or not she "privately" criticized the Sweeney, she evidently also criticized it to him in the letter which is the subject of his to her. That's what upset him.

I would imagine they were both difficult people. And I'm sure Patti's alliance with Arthur complicated matters for Sondheim, since I think by that time that friendship was irretrievably broken. I'm sure he tried his best with Patti at the end of his life--hence, that email. But during his life, he was always going t prefer working with Bernadette.

by Anonymousreply 283November 25, 2022 2:54 PM

Are you Sondheim's husband, r280?

by Anonymousreply 284November 25, 2022 2:54 PM

[quote] Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now?

Because every high school, college, church, Wednesday Afternoon Fine Arts League and senior citizen center does it and everyone knows the ending already.

by Anonymousreply 285November 25, 2022 3:00 PM

[quote]I had a personal encounter with Sondheim where he lost his temper with me (I was doing research in his home)

Shouldn't have opened that closet door.

Steve: What did I clearly say, guests, they must listen. What were you not to do? Open that door!

by Anonymousreply 286November 25, 2022 3:05 PM

Goody. Another terribly clever dungeon joke.

by Anonymousreply 287November 25, 2022 3:11 PM

[quote] She auditioned to replace Bernadette in Sunday in the Park and was not hired.

[quote]She auditioned for Cinderella in Into the Woods and was offered the Witch in Into the Woods…but negotiations broke down.

Roles she was nowhere near the correct type for. Dot in Sunday needs a bit of vulnerability, something that is not in Patti's lexicon. Cinderella needs to be beautiful and a bit naive, not a Long Island waitress screaming to the cook to double time it on her Turkey Club.

by Anonymousreply 288November 25, 2022 3:17 PM

R265, there was an Off-Broadway production of THE MOUSETRAP.

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by Anonymousreply 289November 25, 2022 3:17 PM

Thanks, r289. I must have misread the article.

by Anonymousreply 290November 25, 2022 3:22 PM

And Patti would only havd been right for Desiree in A Little Night Music if the character was a fishwife in Canarsie, not an actress in Sweden.

by Anonymousreply 291November 25, 2022 3:25 PM

r260 Who would've thought that women from Long Island enjoy giving their unsolicited opinions?

r270 It was far more nuanced than that, though. He was talking about how now there are no Broadway stars who have mainstream appeal, like a Merman, etc. That Patti was a draw for the theatre crowd, but not for the mainstream audience.

It was actually an interesting discussion of the various eras of Broadway in terms of draws - from the writers, such as R&H, being the draw, to the talents being mainstream names, to now being Hollywood imports - both talent and the content - being the draw.

by Anonymousreply 292November 25, 2022 3:28 PM

[Quote] It's absolutely true that, as creatives, there comes a point where we don't really want or need honest feedback. As a filmmaker,

Shut up

by Anonymousreply 293November 25, 2022 3:31 PM

[quote]Was Patti LUPone in some sort of trance? What would make her think that Stephen Sondheim would want to know why she hated the Sweeney Todd movie?

Not "in a trance," but as is SO OFTEN the case, she made it ALL ABOUT HER (or largely about her), because I'll bet much of her criticism had to do with HBC's singing as Mrs. Lovett. Time has proven that Patti can be very nice and supportive of a project when she doesn't feel threatened in any way, and when there is no comparison to her own work and no possibility of a role for her in the new project. But when there is.....

[quote]Rosie O’Donnell tells a similar story about how Marc Shaiman got furious with her when she similarly critiqued the Hairspray movie.

I remember that, when the awful CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY was running on Broadway, Shaiman posted some very delusional comments about it on Facebook and also went off on anyone who criticized it. He really does not seem to have enough self awareness to know when he was written something great or something.....not great. On that note, though I've been reading nothing but raves for SOME LIKE IT HOT, someone did point out on social media that the title song bears a VERY close resemblance to the theme song for the old TV cartoon series HUCKLEBERRY HOUND. Search for them both on YouTube and I think you will agree.

by Anonymousreply 294November 25, 2022 3:44 PM

[quote]someone did point out on social media that the title song bears a VERY close resemblance to the theme song for the old TV cartoon series HUCKLEBERRY HOUND.

I'm not seeing a problem here.

Signed, Andrew Lloyd Webber, "Music of the Night sounds nothing like Come To Me, Bend To Me from Brigadoon"

by Anonymousreply 295November 25, 2022 3:55 PM

[quote]Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now? Not sure this will be a hit, but maybe Christie's name will still sell it?

How long until we get "The Mousetrap--The Musical"?

by Anonymousreply 296November 25, 2022 3:56 PM

So "Parade" wasn't featured in the parade? I expect a full investigation -- by Parade Magazine.

by Anonymousreply 297November 25, 2022 3:57 PM

R289, thanks for that link you provided, which actually lists TWO Off-Broadway productions of THE MOUSETRAP. Both of them had very short runs, but they do give the lie to the press release for the upcoming Broadway production, which states that the play has never before been performed in New York.

by Anonymousreply 298November 25, 2022 3:59 PM

r297 = Ben Platt, a real Jew playing a Jew, not a half Jewess playing a full Jewess.

by Anonymousreply 299November 25, 2022 3:59 PM

Speaking of Platt, I know he doesn't have a lot of fans around here, but kudos to him and Galvin. Beanie for best (wo)man?

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by Anonymousreply 300November 25, 2022 4:02 PM

[quote]but they do give the lie to the press release for the upcoming Broadway production

Is "never performed in NY" what the real press release says or is it just BroadwayWorld allowing their interns to write whatever without any research?

by Anonymousreply 301November 25, 2022 4:03 PM

r261 those who would have sung the reprises most likely would have been singing to each other and to other townsfolk not to the camera.

by Anonymousreply 302November 25, 2022 4:05 PM

r301 The official site says "comes to Broadway for the very first time" so seems you're right

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by Anonymousreply 303November 25, 2022 4:06 PM

R301, it seems to me that the "articles" on that site and some others are mere reprints of the press releases, sometimes with some minor rewording.

by Anonymousreply 304November 25, 2022 4:06 PM

r301, it looks like others are repeating that, so it's either coming from the production or no one's doing the research (or both). Here's the BBC:

[quote]The show has been staged in the US before, but never in New York.

Which we now know isn't true.

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by Anonymousreply 305November 25, 2022 4:07 PM

Straight from the press release: "The legendary show – which has never been performed previously in New York – will open in 2023."

by Anonymousreply 306November 25, 2022 4:08 PM

Some Like It Hot performance from the Thanksgiving Day Parade

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by Anonymousreply 307November 25, 2022 4:10 PM

Interesting to see who's just parroting the press release and who fact checked.

Deadline: "The play, a West End institution and popular tourist destination since 1952, has been performed in the U.S. before but never on Broadway or in New York."

The Guardian: "But her most famous play, which starred the married actors Richard Attenborough and Sheila Sim when it opened in 1952, never made it to New York."

But Playbill limits the comment to Broadway, and appears to have done some research since it has more interesting info:

[quote]Since its premiere in London in 1952, the play has been performed regionally in America but never on Broadway. Christie and the show's original producer Peter Saunders did not want the show to go to Broadway, according to her grandson Mathew Prichard, who told The Times, "Those reasons are now long lost." Prichard has approved the play's transfer to Broadway.

Does this qualify as shade:

[quote]“There can be no better way to mark today’s milestone in The Mousetrap’s illustrious run, than to look ahead to a production in New York," said Spiegel in a statement. "I feel after the longest out of town try-out in history, The Mousetrap is finally ready to transfer to Broadway!” Spiegel's only Broadway credit is the 1998 musical Fame.

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by Anonymousreply 308November 25, 2022 4:14 PM

r306 Where's the link to the press release where it says that? Because Google shows only the BWW article says it

by Anonymousreply 309November 25, 2022 4:15 PM

MOUSETRAP may have been staged by hundreds of community theaters or student productions in the US, but I've never seen it. Nor have I seen it in numerous trips to London. But I still have no interest in this new venture.

by Anonymousreply 310November 25, 2022 4:16 PM

Patti speaks:

[quote]Dolls, I'm reactivating my MySpace and getting off this electric dumpster fire. You can find all future updates from me and what I'm up to on my Instagram and Facebook pages @PattiLuPone, while I patiently wait for my OnlyFans to get verified.

Patti LuPone making an OnlyFans joke is not something I ever expected. At least, dear god, I hope it's a joke

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by Anonymousreply 311November 25, 2022 4:20 PM

Here, 309. Are you satisfied now, or are you still going to continue to dispute this?

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by Anonymousreply 312November 25, 2022 4:20 PM

r312 Christ, you're a bit touchy aren't you? Hardly a surprise you're an ATC user

by Anonymousreply 313November 25, 2022 4:22 PM

Ben Platt managed to take a pic where he looks vaguely normal for once. Also, Allison Janney's tits

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by Anonymousreply 314November 25, 2022 4:25 PM

Not an ATC user, R313, but unlike you, I know where to go to look for verbatim posts of press releases. Have a nice day.

by Anonymousreply 315November 25, 2022 4:26 PM

Allison Janney looks like a drag queen version of Kim Cattrall.

by Anonymousreply 316November 25, 2022 4:44 PM

[quote] Patti LuPone making an OnlyFans joke is not something I ever expected. At least, dear god, I hope it's a joke

She was willing to show her funbags in a Spike Lee movie. Anything is possible with her. Maybe she thinks she can make money in granny porn.

by Anonymousreply 317November 25, 2022 4:46 PM

r307, I thought the first half of the performance was fine, but the tap-dancing in the second became pretty boring and went on too long. I'm not sure it sold many tickets (there's a lot of availability for this weekend).

by Anonymousreply 318November 25, 2022 4:54 PM

I suspect there is very little "fun" in them bags at this point r317.

by Anonymousreply 319November 25, 2022 4:55 PM

SLIH is good, not great. Some fun performances and Nicholaw's work has its usual admirable Broadway polish. The film still feels like an unnecessary idea for a musical (Yes, I saw Sugar) even with the new spin. This is the Shaiman of "Charlie," not "Hairspray," so expect another massive online meltdown when someone writes the truth. I felt for them because the effort and talent onstage is real, but it just didn't add up.

by Anonymousreply 320November 25, 2022 4:55 PM

Is it still backwards?

by Anonymousreply 321November 25, 2022 4:56 PM

R298, there weren't two productions. The show moved from the 42nd Street theatre to the 13th Street theatre. Same production.

by Anonymousreply 322November 25, 2022 4:57 PM

Patti's son types her tweets, doesn't he.

by Anonymousreply 323November 25, 2022 5:10 PM

Thanks, R322.

by Anonymousreply 324November 25, 2022 5:14 PM

[quote] Interesting to see who's just parroting the press release and who fact checked.

Is it, though?

by Anonymousreply 325November 25, 2022 5:17 PM

R325, it was to me, which is why I stated it as such. Whether it was to you is your business.

by Anonymousreply 326November 25, 2022 5:21 PM

Hugh's back today.

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by Anonymousreply 327November 25, 2022 5:23 PM

What does John Palermo do these days?

by Anonymousreply 328November 25, 2022 5:28 PM

Ben & Noah are the biggest meskites who ever lived.

by Anonymousreply 329November 25, 2022 5:31 PM

Christian Borle better get used to the idea he will be relatively ignored in all the reviews of and articles about SLIH. He's a white guy with a modicum of talent, and critics will want to praise Ghee and Del Aguila to the skies and overpraise all the women. Borle stopped being interesting about 15 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 330November 25, 2022 5:32 PM

There's a lid for every pot, r329.

by Anonymousreply 331November 25, 2022 5:35 PM

R330 And Borle would give a fuck why, exactly? He has two Tonys already and never has problems booking gigs.

I doubt he took the role for the acclaim.

by Anonymousreply 332November 25, 2022 5:40 PM

Why was Hugh out of his show? COVID? Injury?

by Anonymousreply 333November 25, 2022 5:48 PM

So Evan Hansen is marrying Evan Hansen?

There will be notes to the maid about the temperature of the water for washing the sheets.

by Anonymousreply 334November 25, 2022 5:50 PM

Isn't Borle re-writing the book? He's doing just fine.

by Anonymousreply 335November 25, 2022 5:57 PM

Noah Gavlin looks like a toy but not a hideous toy.

by Anonymousreply 336November 25, 2022 5:57 PM

Long ago it was said that the original West End agreement was that The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?

by Anonymousreply 337November 25, 2022 6:00 PM

I'm wondering who they think is the audience for The Mousetrap on Broadway? There aren't enough tourists, and unless they get Meryl Streep to do it, no self respecting New Yorker will go near it.

by Anonymousreply 338November 25, 2022 6:12 PM

There aren't enough tourists? Who's keeping CHICAGO going?

by Anonymousreply 339November 25, 2022 6:23 PM

R333, his doctor put him on vocal rest. Happened after Saturday's matinee.

by Anonymousreply 340November 25, 2022 6:24 PM

I think the success of the Knives Out movies has emboldened producers to take this Mousetrap shot now. If it's a limited engagement, hopefully they can get some names and not just try selling it on the show's history.

by Anonymousreply 341November 25, 2022 6:24 PM

Thank you, R340.

by Anonymousreply 342November 25, 2022 6:28 PM

They will NEVER get big names to do The Mousetrap on Broadway. In spite of its longevity in London, it's one of Christie's weaker efforts and word of mouth here will be awful. Also, the London physical production is cheap and unimaginative and if they expect to transfer and sell this as London's long-running production, it will be very disappointing. Also, who will direct? The original director (and designers) is long dead.

by Anonymousreply 343November 25, 2022 6:30 PM

I assume Borle is actually in that title number for SLIIH? I know it was discussed upthread but now that I've seen the parade clip, it seems so odd that he's not there with them. I wonder if they want his drag look to be more of a surprise? Are there photos out there of him in drag?

And the number was nice but no great shakes.

by Anonymousreply 344November 25, 2022 6:32 PM

No, he's not in that number in the show.

by Anonymousreply 345November 25, 2022 6:39 PM

Was he ejected from it, like Dolores Gray in Destry's whip number?

by Anonymousreply 346November 25, 2022 6:41 PM

[quote] The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?

Probably the bank account of Agatha's estate beneficiaries.

by Anonymousreply 347November 25, 2022 6:51 PM

[quote]Long ago it was said that the original West End agreement was that The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?

Is it really so difficult to figure that out?

by Anonymousreply 348November 25, 2022 6:55 PM

Some Like It Hot is supposed to be a hit? Gurl. That number on the parade would argue otherwise. And if you’re showing up to a TV audience of millions without a number for your major bankable stars, you’ve got a problem.

by Anonymousreply 349November 25, 2022 6:58 PM

[quote]They will NEVER get big names to do The Mousetrap on Broadway. In spite of its longevity in London, it's one of Christie's weaker efforts and word of mouth here will be awful.

You seem awfully sure of yourself. On what basis?

[quote]Also, the London physical production is cheap and unimaginative and if they expect to transfer and sell this as London's long-running production, it will be very disappointing.

You sure are doing a lot of guessing and assuming as to how this production will be approached.

[quote]Also, who will direct? The original director (and designers) is long dead.

As if every subsequent production of a show in history has been directed and designed by the original people. What a ridiculous comment. Do you really think you have any idea what you're talking about?

by Anonymousreply 350November 25, 2022 6:59 PM

R209 do you really think Christian Borle masturbates?

by Anonymousreply 351November 25, 2022 7:10 PM

I know Agatha stipulated The Mousetrap cannot be filmed until it has closed in London, but not the same stipulation for a NY production. Anyhoo, it is the hot Grandson who has granted permission for the production to go ahead.

by Anonymousreply 352November 25, 2022 7:13 PM

r349, who are the major, bankable stars in Some Like It Hot? I'm pretty sure Borle is not one.

by Anonymousreply 353November 25, 2022 7:14 PM

One thing is for sure- The production of The Mousetrap had zero to do with the horrible movie that just featured it, See How They Run. Christ, what a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 354November 25, 2022 7:15 PM

Needs more Elaine Joyce.

by Anonymousreply 355November 25, 2022 7:15 PM

r350, I'm simply going by the Official Press Release, in which London Lead Producer Adam Spiegel clearly states: "I feel after the longest out of town try out in history, The Mousetrap is finally ready to transfer to Broadway."

Which indicates that the intention is to bring to Broadway a reproduction of the current production that's been running for 70 years in London to Broadway. There's NO mention of a new director, new set designs, new costume and lighting design, a new concept. The selling point, such as it is, is to show Broadway audiences what all the fuss has been about.

Of course, things could change once saner minds have reconsidered, but how else can the announcement be interpreted? But yes, I could be wrong, they may get some names to initially star in it, but I seriously doubt they'll be true ticket-selling names.

by Anonymousreply 356November 25, 2022 7:26 PM

I'll just say it - I never warmed to LuPone's performances as Mrs. Lovett in Sweeney Todd. She, of course, has a better voice than Bonham Carter, but she was about equally as humorless and dull in the role.

Angela Lansbury said some positive things about Depp's performance in the film, but she wisely kept her mouth shut about Bonham Carter. She knew her legacy wasn't in any danger.

by Anonymousreply 357November 25, 2022 7:28 PM

[quote]How long until we get "The Mousetrap--The Musical"?

I'm working on it!

by Anonymousreply 358November 25, 2022 7:35 PM

[quote]The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?

The fact that it's still running 70 years later.

by Anonymousreply 359November 25, 2022 7:38 PM

No Lea in FG today. Benko was scheduled to do the matinee anyway but Lea is sick and will be out tonite. Tovah is also out for both shows.

by Anonymousreply 360November 25, 2022 8:12 PM

Who goes on for Tovah?

by Anonymousreply 361November 25, 2022 8:13 PM

I assumed that’s why he was hired R353. Isn’t he one of those Broadway actors that brings in the locals? I honestly don’t give a shit, I think he’s barely mid on stage and his face is made for radio. The weird obsession with him here is… whatever.

by Anonymousreply 362November 25, 2022 8:14 PM

Nah, he's hired for reviews and possible Tony nom/win, not because he makes a difference to the box office based on his name.

by Anonymousreply 363November 25, 2022 8:16 PM

Taking the day after Thanksgiving off is shitty.

by Anonymousreply 364November 25, 2022 8:35 PM

[quote]Angela Lansbury said some positive things about Depp's performance in the film, but she wisely kept her mouth shut about Bonham Carter. She knew her legacy wasn't in any danger.

Not true, she did comment on HBC's performance, but not surprisingly, Lansbury was very diplomatic about it. Apparently having read or seen interviews in which HBC said that she originally planned to play Lovett with a lot more comedy in her performance until Burton put a stop to that idea, Lansbury said in effect that she was very sorry HBC wasn't allowed to bring to the role all of the comedy that she could have brought to it. She did not, however, comment on her singing, as far as I know.

by Anonymousreply 365November 25, 2022 9:44 PM

R362, the "weird obsession" with Christian Borle on DL is probably based on the fact that many people consider him a brilliant comic actor -- including Kevin Kline, who has been quoted as having said so.

by Anonymousreply 366November 25, 2022 9:46 PM

Kevin Kline also said Phoebe Cates was talented.

by Anonymousreply 367November 25, 2022 10:00 PM

Doesn't Borle have an enormous cock>

by Anonymousreply 368November 25, 2022 10:04 PM

To this day, still the best play I've ever seen on any stage.

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by Anonymousreply 369November 25, 2022 10:05 PM

R369 I watch it every Christmas, it is amazing.

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by Anonymousreply 370November 25, 2022 10:08 PM

That Nickolas Nickleby was amazing! As was The Grapes of Wrath. Two of my favorites brought beautifully to the stage.

by Anonymousreply 371November 25, 2022 10:11 PM

Would it kill someone to remaster the Nickelby DVDs?

by Anonymousreply 372November 25, 2022 10:18 PM

There's also a currently running London production of Christie's Witness for the Prosecution, in an environmental style staging in a real court. It opened in 2017 and paused for the worst of the pandemic. It's back going into what they are calling year six of the run, but adds up to more like year 4 1/2.

Still an impressive tally for a revival of a large cast straight play.

The last Agatha Christie play on Broadway was...the original production of Witness for the Prosecution in 1954-56, which ran a year and a half and won the Featured Actor and Actress Tony Awards.

Why is Broadway so dismissive of Christie's plays, when they are so successful everywhere else in the world and continue to receive major adaptations in other media with big stars in the cast? It takes more than an aggressive set of heirs to make this happen, the public has to want it.

Every regional theatre in America seems to be working its way around to the Ken Ludwig Orient Express from a few years ago, for example, knowing that is sells well. Yet it is probably unlikely to see a Broadway run.

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by Anonymousreply 373November 25, 2022 11:11 PM

Sweeney Todd needs the comedy. Otherwise, it's a slog to sit through. That's why I find the movie really problematic. HBC was right. Tim Burton should have listened to her.

by Anonymousreply 374November 25, 2022 11:15 PM

Mysteries and Thrillers for the stage have mostly gone the way of the dodo bird, DEATHTRAP being the last successful one on Broadway. I personally have a fondness for them and will certainly see The Mousetrap. I think a slightly tongue in cheek Christie production could be fun and maybe even successful as Knives Out has shown. A few past-their-prime stars a la Murder She Wrote in the cast could be fun.

by Anonymousreply 375November 25, 2022 11:18 PM

The Mousetrap is still backwards.

by Anonymousreply 376November 26, 2022 2:58 AM

[quote]hopefully they can get some names

I'm available!

by Anonymousreply 377November 26, 2022 3:35 AM

[quote]Every regional theatre in America seems to be working its way around to the Ken Ludwig Orient Express from a few years ago, for example, knowing that is sells well. Yet it is probably unlikely to see a Broadway run.

Please don't muddy the issue. The names Agatha Christie and Ken Ludwig should never be mentioned in the same breath, even if that asshole did secure the rights to do a stage adaptation of MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS.

by Anonymousreply 378November 26, 2022 3:37 AM

Christian Borle's cock isn't as big as mine.

by Anonymousreply 379November 26, 2022 3:56 AM

If we could have the same cast from the 1980s today, would David Threlfall, who played Smike, be cast, or would a differently abled actor be cast?

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by Anonymousreply 380November 26, 2022 4:03 AM

R380 And where did Timothy Spall go? And Ben Kingsley?

by Anonymousreply 381November 26, 2022 4:09 AM

A Hallmark Channel Christmas movie premiering Sunday, titled "A Holiday Spectacular," centers around the Rockettes. The cast includes, in supporting roles, DL faves Ann-Margret and Eve Plumb.

by Anonymousreply 382November 26, 2022 8:24 AM

r382, for a second there I thought you were saying "A Hallmark Channel Christmas movie premiering Sunday, titled "A Holiday Spectacular,"" was where Timothy Spall and Ben Kingsley had gone.

I'd like to see that movie.

by Anonymousreply 383November 26, 2022 8:39 AM

[Quote] And Ben Kingsley?

That's Sir King Bensley to you!

by Anonymousreply 384November 26, 2022 12:28 PM

Roger Bart: Prove it.

by Anonymousreply 385November 26, 2022 12:42 PM

What happened then well that's the mooovie and he wouldn't want us to give it away.

by Anonymousreply 386November 26, 2022 12:52 PM

did Sutton have both?

by Anonymousreply 387November 26, 2022 1:07 PM

Yes, and Bobby Canavale's!

by Anonymousreply 388November 26, 2022 1:21 PM

Mrs. Sally Adams meets Mrs. Sally Adams.

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by Anonymousreply 389November 26, 2022 1:48 PM

In the Broadway import of Nicholas Nickleby, there were a lot of "stars to be."

Roger Reese, David Threlfall, Alun Armstrong, Ian McNeice (the fat guy on Doc Martin), Jeffrey Dench (Judi's brother), Rose Hill ('Allo, 'Allo), Mark Tandy (Cecil Beaton in The Crown)

by Anonymousreply 390November 26, 2022 2:32 PM

Sutton is a size queen?

by Anonymousreply 391November 26, 2022 2:34 PM

[quote] Roger Reese

Ahem!

by Anonymousreply 392November 26, 2022 2:35 PM

[quote]What happened then well that's the mooovie and he wouldn't want us to give it away.

That could have easily been changed. One possibility: "What happened then? We cannot say, 'cause 'e wouldn't want us to give it away."

by Anonymousreply 393November 26, 2022 2:38 PM

So some fangirl posted on Facebook that she thought it would be a fitting tribute to Sondheim to have the music for the title phrase of the song "Company" tattooed on BOTH of her inner arms in LARGE format. So she did it, and posted the pix. Mind-boggling.

by Anonymousreply 394November 26, 2022 3:12 PM

Was it Patti?

by Anonymousreply 395November 26, 2022 3:22 PM

Ha! Nope. It wasn't Betty Buckley, either.

by Anonymousreply 396November 26, 2022 3:24 PM

It was Kim Criswell!

by Anonymousreply 397November 26, 2022 4:44 PM
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by Anonymousreply 398November 26, 2022 5:06 PM

Open up the Broadway Theatre for a limited run of The Hours". Considering how difficult it is to get a ticket at the Met, A savvy producer could clean up. And Joyce DiDonato would be assured a Tony.

by Anonymousreply 399November 26, 2022 5:14 PM

No one is interested in opera. They want to see the Neil Diamond musical.

by Anonymousreply 400November 26, 2022 5:22 PM

Fleming and DiDonato would not do anywhere near eight shows a week.

by Anonymousreply 401November 26, 2022 5:35 PM

Presumably, R399 was joking about a Broadway run of THE HOURS. At least, I hope so.

by Anonymousreply 402November 26, 2022 5:40 PM

Has anyone seen THE HOURS? Thoughts?

I'm not a regular opera-goer, but I liked the book, the movie, and those 3 ladies.

by Anonymousreply 403November 26, 2022 5:45 PM

I hate all of Ken Ludwig's scripts.....

by Anonymousreply 404November 26, 2022 5:54 PM

Lea out this afternoon. Back tonite. The tourists who are in town for the holiday and bought tix will not be happy.

by Anonymousreply 405November 26, 2022 6:14 PM

Looking at photos of THE HOURS, I find it very hard to get a sense of it. I realize it takes place in 3 different time periods but there doesn't seem to any overall aesthetic visually. Each photo looks like it's from a different opera and much of it doesn't look pertinent to any particular time period (except for Kelli's 1950s dress).

Sorry not to provide a link but it's easily googleable.

by Anonymousreply 406November 26, 2022 6:14 PM

Hard to believe the film version is 20 years old. Kidman really surprised me in this at the time--she's terrific.

I still listen to the Philip Glass soundtrack once in a blue moon.

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by Anonymousreply 408November 26, 2022 6:17 PM

Came home after seeing the opera last night, and watched the movie again. The opera of The Hours takes its cues from the book instead of the film. The movie has several bad choices, the biggest of which is Julianne Moore's wedding photo.

by Anonymousreply 409November 26, 2022 6:20 PM

Do the opera singers hold back to aid Kelli?

by Anonymousreply 410November 26, 2022 6:20 PM

Kelli outsings Renee, but DiDonato outsings them all.

by Anonymousreply 411November 26, 2022 6:29 PM

"There's also a currently running London production of Christie's Witness for the Prosecution, in an environmental style staging in a real court. It opened in 2017 and paused for the worst of the pandemic. It's back going into what they are calling year six of the run, but adds up to more like year 4 1/2."

I saw this show and it's an excellent production - the story is a tad creaky but the acting and direction were really sharp and the location really works. Not really sure about the current appetite in NY for Agatha Christie though, especially on Broadway. I'm curious if they will relax some of the estate rules for The Mousetrap. In London, the estate doesn't allow people of color to perform certain parts, such as police officers, judges, etc. because it's not "accurate." Pretty silly.

by Anonymousreply 412November 26, 2022 6:44 PM

Thank you r408. I would certainly rather see that than the Neil Diamond musical.

by Anonymousreply 413November 26, 2022 6:45 PM

Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer, but she can only do a few minutes of those hours, those high notes are exhausting and a girl needs her rest!

by Anonymousreply 414November 26, 2022 7:26 PM

[quote]Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer

Please, I got that covered! I will not get away from Broadway without a Tony!

by Anonymousreply 415November 26, 2022 7:36 PM

R415! Hilarious! Thank you. And it’s funny, because it’s true. Maybe in 30 years Lea and Beanie can do a limited run of LEGENDS?

by Anonymousreply 416November 26, 2022 7:53 PM

[Quote] Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer, but she can only do a few minutes of those hours, those high notes are exhausting and a girl needs her rest!

Oh, for fucks sake, give it a rest. Just saying “beanie” wasn’t funny. 40 threads ago.

by Anonymousreply 417November 26, 2022 8:19 PM

R417 Fuck off, Ben.

by Anonymousreply 418November 26, 2022 8:48 PM

The score of The Hours is far too heavy for Kelli who has no sense of legato at all, sings note to note, and struggles to be heard most of the night. She was fine as Despina in Cosi a few years ago, but she’s not an opera singer and her voice just doesn’t work in the house. It’s really as simple as that. Gelb has desperately wanted to integrate Broadway people into the house his entire tenure, and he’s using Kelli to fulfill whatever dream he had there. It’s an anomaly that won’t continue beyond her. Broadway singers don’t have the size of sound, the color, the legato, the squillo , the technical prowess or the language skills to sing in major opera houses. As far as the rest of the show, Renee should have stayed retired, Joyce is okay, but the top is thin and sharp as usual. The show itself is a bore, the staging a yawn and while it may have a brief remounting a season from now, it will never be seen in NY again like all new operas produced at the Met.

by Anonymousreply 419November 26, 2022 8:50 PM

Hw dare you, r419?

Bart Sher loves my squillo.

by Anonymousreply 420November 26, 2022 9:00 PM

I would love to beat the shit out of r419 after school

by Anonymousreply 421November 26, 2022 9:39 PM

I dated an opera composer for several years. Thank you, r419, for reminding me why I have no regrets.

by Anonymousreply 422November 26, 2022 10:53 PM

Marry me, 422

by Anonymousreply 423November 27, 2022 12:26 AM

Beanie as Sally, Lea as Phyllis

Beanie's fangurls will attend Tuesday, Friday and Saturday matinees

Lea's fangurls will attend Wednesday matinee, Thursday and Saturday evening

by Anonymousreply 424November 27, 2022 1:51 AM

Julie Benko for Hattie!

by Anonymousreply 425November 27, 2022 1:57 AM

The only problem I see with all the Beanie jokes is that they are never even remotely funny or clever. R424, for instance.

by Anonymousreply 426November 27, 2022 2:31 AM

Maybe they are not jokes ?

by Anonymousreply 427November 27, 2022 2:55 AM

[quote]The only problem I see with all the Beanie jokes is that they are never even remotely funny or clever. [R424], for instance.

Scuse me, Dorothy Parker. I don't remember agreeing that my posts were required to be funny or clever. All that is required of me is pointless bitchery!

by Anonymousreply 428November 27, 2022 3:05 AM

[quote]“The matter between myself and TDF has been resolved and both parties are satisfied with the discussions that ensued,” Wann wrote in a social media post announcing the settlement.

White interpreter for the deaf has settled his discrimination lawsuit.

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by Anonymousreply 429November 27, 2022 3:14 AM

Y’all joke, but a future FOLLIES revival starring Lea, Beanie, Groff and Platt is almost written in the stars at this point.

by Anonymousreply 430November 27, 2022 4:48 AM

Lea and Beanie are both Sallys.

by Anonymousreply 431November 27, 2022 5:11 AM

Saw that Sondheim is trending on Twitter. I'd forgotten yesterday was the anniversary of his death. Moment of silence at ITW.

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by Anonymousreply 432November 27, 2022 6:30 AM

Groff and Platt are both Buddys.

by Anonymousreply 433November 27, 2022 6:40 AM

[quote]All that is required of me is pointless bitchery!

You've definitely mastered the pointless part.

However, your bitchery could use a lot of work.

by Anonymousreply 434November 27, 2022 8:17 AM

[quote]Y’all joke, but a future FOLLIES revival starring Lea, Beanie, Groff and Platt is almost written in the stars at this point.

What could go wrong? Beane will be just dying to work with the woman who rescued the show that Beanie nearly destroyed singlehandedly.

by Anonymousreply 435November 27, 2022 8:27 AM

A moment of silence? He didn't die in a war.

by Anonymousreply 436November 27, 2022 9:15 AM

Dying in a war has never been a requirement for a moment of silence.

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by Anonymousreply 437November 27, 2022 9:30 AM

No shit, R437, but a moment of silence at a Broadway show for the dead composter, who died at nearly 100, is overdramatic as hell.

by Anonymousreply 438November 27, 2022 9:39 AM

No, it's really not, r438. It's a simple gesture of respect for someone who has died, regardless of age or how it happened.

Unclench.

by Anonymousreply 439November 27, 2022 9:46 AM

Oh R421, you were the pansy who got the shit beaten out of you at school every day. At 5’5” and 440 pounds, the only thing you’re doing today is fusing yourself to your couch, you clown.

by Anonymousreply 440November 27, 2022 12:03 PM

R438. “Composter”? I didn’t know SS was an environmentalist!

by Anonymousreply 441November 27, 2022 12:42 PM

@ r440. Read the room motherfucker.

by Anonymousreply 442November 27, 2022 12:55 PM

It’s been read cunt. You’re getting ratioed. Bye.

by Anonymousreply 443November 27, 2022 12:58 PM

Not eve close r440. I had a pretty great day actually, including getting my squillo sucked and topping my hot bf with a real sense of the size of my legato.

by Anonymousreply 444November 27, 2022 1:25 PM

R435 Singlehandedly ? Have you SEEN the staging?

by Anonymousreply 445November 27, 2022 1:55 PM

Stephen Sondheim, taken from us 1,000 years too soon.

by Anonymousreply 446November 27, 2022 2:16 PM

Platt gets hired for Follies because a big star dropped out just before rehearsals were set to start. After a series of embarrassing public incidents (one after he walked out of his first rehab), no one is expecting much and his hiring is regarded as a joke.

Unexpectedly he triumphs. His Buddy makes self-loathing visceral and for the first time ever in a production of Follies, one of the husbands shines as much as (or more than) the ladies. He does a few film roles before playing the grandfather in a family drama that runs six seasons.

by Anonymousreply 447November 27, 2022 2:21 PM

[quote]That's Sir King Bensley to you!

Or just Sir Kingsley.

by Anonymousreply 448November 27, 2022 2:46 PM

Beanie as the new parking lot!

by Anonymousreply 449November 27, 2022 2:48 PM

R447, if that’s the future asteroid do your thing.

by Anonymousreply 450November 27, 2022 2:49 PM

[quote] Have you SEEN the staging?

Gotta hate how Mayer is enjoying the season's smash, and that Neil Fucking Diamond is doing well too.

by Anonymousreply 451November 27, 2022 3:01 PM

[quote] Stephen Sondheim, taken from us 1,000 years too soon.

don't be a dick r446. Wouldn't you like to know that folks here on DL might be having a moment of silence for you on the first anniversary of your death?

by Anonymousreply 452November 27, 2022 3:02 PM

I'll drink to that!

by Anonymousreply 453November 27, 2022 3:05 PM

And one for... LINE!

by Anonymousreply 454November 27, 2022 3:09 PM

I want an NBC live presentation of Evita with Lea Michele in the title role, Ben Platt as Che, Jonathan Groff as Magaldi and Beanie as Arminda, Eva’s fat and unattractive sister Erminda.

by Anonymousreply 455November 27, 2022 3:44 PM

Someone bring Suzanne Somers' Broadway show back to the Great White Way - just so the Beanie obsessives have someone more inept to drive their little comments.

by Anonymousreply 456November 27, 2022 3:47 PM

Lea as Evita, Groff as Peron, Platt as Che. Magaldi is kind of a nothing role after "Buenos Aires."

by Anonymousreply 457November 27, 2022 3:52 PM

John Lloyd Young as Magaldi. Theo Stockman as Ensemble.

by Anonymousreply 458November 27, 2022 3:55 PM

[quote]Evita with Lea Michele in the title role

I'm not having her steal my line readings like she does with Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 459November 27, 2022 3:56 PM

Did Patti see SPRING AWAKENING? And did she have notes?

by Anonymousreply 460November 27, 2022 3:58 PM

I saw Patti's notes for SPRING AWAKENING: "It's still backwards."

by Anonymousreply 461November 27, 2022 5:50 PM

More on the happy couple, including engagement photos.

Cute!

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by Anonymousreply 462November 27, 2022 5:53 PM

[quote]More on the happy couple, including engagement photos.

What are their pronouns? Is Noah going to be the wife in the relationship?

by Anonymousreply 463November 27, 2022 6:12 PM

Sweet, very personal tribute to Sondheim on the anniversary of his death.

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by Anonymousreply 464November 27, 2022 6:16 PM

Just when you thought that the Kimberly Akimbo ad campaign couldn’t get any worse, they commission a poorly drawn picture of Kimberly and the teens in a roller coaster. And for some unknown reason, they give Victoria Clark gray hair in the drawing!

by Anonymousreply 465November 27, 2022 6:28 PM

[quote]His Buddy makes self-loathing visceral

Complete with tics!

by Anonymousreply 466November 27, 2022 6:32 PM

Any trannies in Kimberly?

by Anonymousreply 467November 27, 2022 6:32 PM

Well, there's this one.

You'll leave humming the hourglass timer!

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by Anonymousreply 468November 27, 2022 6:33 PM

Someone should adapt "The Hard Way" for the stage.

by Anonymousreply 469November 27, 2022 6:37 PM

R429 liberals are such racists.

And hypocrites.

by Anonymousreply 470November 27, 2022 6:40 PM

I feel bad for Victoria Clark

She got shit on by Nathan Lane I’m Guys and Dolls

She got shit on during How to Succeed

She got shit on during Sister Act

She got shit on during Cinderella

She got shit on by Sondheim during the Encores Follies

Now this.

by Anonymousreply 471November 27, 2022 7:12 PM

What did Sondheim do to her?

by Anonymousreply 472November 27, 2022 7:18 PM

Lin-Manuel and Andrew Garfield were spotted together at Merrily We Roll Along last night.

Brad Goreski and Brandon Flynn were also in the audience.

by Anonymousreply 473November 27, 2022 7:26 PM

R471. When someone gets shit on that much you have to wonder if they might be the problem.

by Anonymousreply 474November 27, 2022 7:26 PM

R474 Are they still dating?

by Anonymousreply 475November 27, 2022 7:29 PM

[quote]What did Sondheim do to her?

He hit her in the head with a fondue pot, r472.

by Anonymousreply 476November 27, 2022 7:30 PM

[quote]I feel bad for Victoria Clark

At least she made it into a lifeboat and survived the sinking of the Titanic.

by Anonymousreply 477November 27, 2022 7:33 PM

Thanks, R476, that's what I thought.

by Anonymousreply 478November 27, 2022 7:47 PM

Wasn't there also something about Bart Sher promising her Nellie in South Pacific only to see it given to her stage daughter instead?

by Anonymousreply 479November 27, 2022 8:35 PM

Eldergay theatre queens, do you all remember lovely Peter Frechette, who seemed to appear constantly on Broadway and 0ff-Broadway stages of the 1980s and 1990s? I've recently become a FB friend and he often posts photos of his early NY appearances and I'm just bowled over by all the great stage work he did, much of it in new plays.

Of course, others may also remember Peter from the ensemble cast of Grease 2 and as David Marshall Grant's post-coital bedmate in 30Something.

It seems he went to LA to co-star in a TV series over 20 years ago, I think it was called The Profiler, and I don't think he's trod the NY boards since then, which is a shame. I'm not sure if he's still acting much or if he's still in LA.

Any other fans of Peter?

by Anonymousreply 480November 27, 2022 8:47 PM

Peter Frechette gave a lovely Tony nominated performance in Eastern Standard. He was wonderful. I was watching First Wives Club the other day and he played a ‘blink and you’ll miss him’ role as a director. I wish I had seen him when he went on for Matthew Broderick in The Odd Couple because Felix seems like a great fit for him.

by Anonymousreply 481November 27, 2022 8:50 PM

LMM posted screenshots of emails with Sondheim over the casting of TTB. Seems Steve had never heard of Bradley Whitford. Funny, you'd think he'd be a West Wing type.

by Anonymousreply 482November 27, 2022 8:56 PM

Sara Porkalub has said she will appear in "The Hours," but only for 45 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 483November 27, 2022 8:58 PM

Sondheim did not watch television, except for old movies on TV.

by Anonymousreply 484November 27, 2022 9:00 PM

I don't imagine Sondheim watching network series TV at all. Maybe, had he been a little younger, he would have gotten into the some of the more provocative streaming stuff like White Lotus.

by Anonymousreply 485November 27, 2022 9:01 PM

[r472] she said during her interview for the book of “Nothing Like a Dame” that he would come back stage after he show and tell her that she wasn’t doing “Losing my Mind” correctly until the final performance, when he finally told her she did it correctly. She later mentioned she has no idea what changed in her performance.

by Anonymousreply 486November 27, 2022 9:04 PM

I've got no proof, but it would delight me if Sondheim was secret a fan of, say, Who's the Boss?

by Anonymousreply 487November 27, 2022 9:08 PM

I think Danny Pinatauro sang "Send in the Clowns" in the school talent show episode.

by Anonymousreply 488November 27, 2022 9:14 PM

Noah G.'s much hairier than I would have thought. But not at hairy as the Sherwood Forest on Ben's torso.

Any update on who's fucking Noah in those linked vids?

by Anonymousreply 489November 27, 2022 9:14 PM

[quote] I think Danny Pinatauro sang "Send in the Clowns" in the school talent show episode.

I think he sang it while exposing his asshole online trolling for cock 15 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 490November 27, 2022 9:16 PM

r489

what linked vids?

by Anonymousreply 491November 27, 2022 9:18 PM

R486, she probably never got it right but Sondheim didn't want to leave her with the feeling that she failed.

by Anonymousreply 492November 27, 2022 9:25 PM

R491 There are videos of Noah being fucked by a Grindr hookup in the Platt/Galvin engagement thread.

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by Anonymousreply 493November 27, 2022 9:27 PM

[quote]Any update on who's fucking Noah in those linked vids?

[quote]There are videos of Noah being fucked by a Grindr hookup in the Platt/Galvin engagement thread.

And there is your answer.

by Anonymousreply 494November 27, 2022 9:34 PM

[quote]Wasn't there also something about Bart Sher promising her Nellie in South Pacific only to see it given to her stage daughter instead?

Victoria Clark was way too old to play Nellie at that point.

by Anonymousreply 495November 27, 2022 11:03 PM

I never saw her performance live and I'm not sure which performance it's sourced from, but the video of Victoria Clark doing "Losing My Mind" at Encores has her doing the first part of the song as seductive torch singer which is a nice change from the weepier versions one usually sees. Was this the one Sondheim finally approved? Her performance from the L.A. production is completely different and more in line with what Bernadette Peters did.

by Anonymousreply 496November 27, 2022 11:07 PM

R483 Kudos! That's a brilliant line!

by Anonymousreply 497November 27, 2022 11:34 PM

Elizabeth Vincentelli has a theater review in Saturday’s Times. She is also quoted in the Kimberly akimbo ad for a review attributed to the New Yorker. Who works where and wtf is going on where

by Anonymousreply 498November 27, 2022 11:35 PM

The next thread should be titled:

THEATRE GOSSIP #504: The "Kelli O'Hara's Beloved Squillo" Edition

by Anonymousreply 499November 27, 2022 11:37 PM

So sick of Victoria Clark.

by Anonymousreply 500November 27, 2022 11:37 PM

For a *very* different Losing My Mind, r496, go to 2:07:15...

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by Anonymousreply 501November 27, 2022 11:41 PM

Who can we get to do Miss Marple in the Margaret Rutherford mode if they ever made one of her Christie's Marple movies or novels into a stage property? I love the swinging music that accompanies the credits for her films! Starts at about 15 seconds in if you're in a hurry.

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by Anonymousreply 502November 27, 2022 11:42 PM

[quote] Sara Porkalub has said she will appear in "The Hours," but only for 45 minutes.

[quote] Kudos! That's a brilliant line!

Sadly, this isn't a brilliant line, even if it has the appearance of such. Two reasons why: 1) The timing is off. Porkakob is now a dated reference, even by DL standards. This perhaps would have been "brilliant" two months ago. 2) Porkabob has no relation to "The Hours," so the connection is lacking. The joke is interchangeable. For example, "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in THE PAJAMA GAME, but only for 5 and half cents." or "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in BALLROOM, but only for 50 percent of it."

by Anonymousreply 503November 27, 2022 11:53 PM

How about:

Sarah Porkalob starring in KIMBERLY AKIM

by Anonymousreply 504November 28, 2022 12:02 AM

R504, perfectly landed.

by Anonymousreply 505November 28, 2022 12:07 AM

[quote]The joke is interchangeable. For example, "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in THE PAJAMA GAME, but only for 5 and half cents." or "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in BALLROOM, but only for 50 percent of it."

Actually, I think both of those jokes are quite funny. So sue me.

by Anonymousreply 506November 28, 2022 12:29 AM

Noah is so out of Ben's league.

by Anonymousreply 507November 28, 2022 12:57 AM

Nobody is in Ben's league.

by Anonymousreply 508November 28, 2022 12:58 AM

Nobody is in Ben’s league because no one can reach his level of unattractiveness.

by Anonymousreply 509November 28, 2022 1:00 AM

Noah looks like a child with a beard.

by Anonymousreply 510November 28, 2022 1:07 AM

Sara Porkalob in "Love Me or Leave Me" - but she only charges 7.5 cents a dance.

Sara Porkalob couldn't star in "Rent" as her year is only 394,200 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 511November 28, 2022 1:19 AM

When Sara Porkalob plays Madame Armfeldt, the moon only smiles twice.

by Anonymousreply 512November 28, 2022 1:22 AM

Sara Porkalob only knows 37.5 ways to leave her lover.

by Anonymousreply 513November 28, 2022 1:36 AM

Will Beanie be Ben’s ‘best person?’

by Anonymousreply 514November 28, 2022 1:44 AM

K-FLOP:

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by Anonymousreply 515November 28, 2022 1:48 AM

Porkalob in FLOWER DRUM SONG, singing of "Seventy Five Million Miracles."

Porkalob in WONDERFUL TOWN, telling us "75 Easy Ways to Lose a Man."

Should I go on? Probably not......

by Anonymousreply 516November 28, 2022 4:13 AM

Not really gossip, but I enjoyed reading about how Sondheim and Lansbury's cameos in Glass Onion came to be (that's been widely publicized over the past few months, so hopefully not a spoiler). There are spoilers about other cameos if you don't want them ruined for you, but if not, it's fun.

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by Anonymousreply 517November 28, 2022 4:41 AM

R517 Well, spoiled, but I shall still burst into tears seeing Steve and Angela.

by Anonymousreply 518November 28, 2022 5:21 AM

The K-POP costumes have been lauded…but they are APPALLING.

by Anonymousreply 519November 28, 2022 5:39 AM

You’re all just jealous that Noah gets to run his hands through Ben's luxurious shoulder hair.

by Anonymousreply 520November 28, 2022 10:42 AM

Steve was a entitled unpleasant cunt.

by Anonymousreply 521November 28, 2022 1:39 PM

From the EW article about Sondheim and Lansbury in KNIVES OUT:

[quote]"With Angela Lansbury, she's extraordinary in so many ways in her connection to the genre," Johnson gushes. "She's just a hero. And then Sondheim has a massive connection to the murder-mystery genre. He was a puzzle and mystery nut. He co-wrote, with Anthony Perkins, The Last of Sheila, which our film takes a huge page from in terms of the setup. And a lot of people don't know [it's] the only straight play he ever wrote that wasn't a musical was a whodunit."

In his last sentence, Johnson was not referring to THE LAST OF SHEILA, which of course is not a "straight play." He was referring to the Broadway comedy murder mystery GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, which was co-written by Sondheim and George Furth. It rans for 31 previews and 17 performances.

[quote]"With Angela Lansbury, she's extraordinary in so many ways in her connection to the genre," Johnson gushes. "She's just a hero. And then Sondheim has a massive connection to the murder-mystery genre. He was a puzzle and mystery nut. He co-wrote, with Anthony Perkins, The Last of Sheila, which our film takes a huge page from in terms of the setup. And a lot of people don't know [it's] the only straight play he ever wrote that wasn't a musical was a whodunit."

And, umm, prior to that, she had starred in Sondheim's ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway, not to mention a revival of GYPSY. And after SWEENEY TODD, she co-starred in a revival of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. And so on.

by Anonymousreply 522November 28, 2022 2:39 PM

Uggh, sorry. The second quote above was supposed to have been:

[quote]Lansbury is linked to the legendary lyricist and composer as well, having originated the role of Mrs. Lovett in Sondheim's Sweeney Todd. "I'm a musical theater nerd," Johnson confesses. "Sondheim's always been my guy."

Which prompted me to point out that, prior to SWEENEY, Lansbury had starred in Sondheim's ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway, not to mention a revival of GYPSY. And after SWEENEY TODD, she co-starred in a revival of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. And so on.

by Anonymousreply 523November 28, 2022 2:44 PM

We know her credits, dear.

by Anonymousreply 524November 28, 2022 2:59 PM

They weren’t giving full biographies, just some interesting relevant conversational references, you insufferable twit r522/r523

by Anonymousreply 525November 28, 2022 3:06 PM

Mentioning only SWEENEY TODD as a Sondheim/Lansbury connection makes it sound like the author of the article was completely unaware of all the other stuff. She didn't have to give Lansbury's entire Sondheim resume, she could have written something like ".....among several other major projects."

And the author of the article's confusion over THE LAST OF SHEILA and GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER is just sloppy and ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 526November 28, 2022 3:46 PM

What's the buzz off-Bway?

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by Anonymousreply 527November 28, 2022 3:54 PM

Oh, relax, r526.

by Anonymousreply 528November 28, 2022 4:20 PM

With apologies for mentioning the dreadful ATC site, does anyone know who "Dale" might be? He made an astonishingly clumsy reference, by name, to a (very) former love interest of Sondheim's in a thread yesterday discussing Sondheim on Sondheim. He basically hijacked the discussion to drop this name--most unseemly for that site.

by Anonymousreply 529November 28, 2022 4:23 PM

Lin referring to Andrew Garfield as “my leading man”…

Are these two fucking or what?

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by Anonymousreply 530November 28, 2022 4:36 PM

Or he just wants to remind everyone he made a film

by Anonymousreply 531November 28, 2022 5:47 PM

So, the ever-busy Andrew Lloyd Webber and some producer named Michael Harrison have announced the formation of "a new musical theatre partnership to find and develop new musicals, and create new productions from Andrew Lloyd Webber’s momentous musical catalogue."

Momentous? I guess there are even some Brits who can't use the English language properly, not even in press releases.

by Anonymousreply 532November 28, 2022 8:16 PM

Michael Riedel delves into the current overcorrection happening on diversity and inclusion mandates. Also goes into the very alienating WSYWAT manifesto and other areas that many are too afraid to speak out against. He might air on the cunty side, but man do I miss his reporting.

"These days it takes a while to get to that table read. After the meet and greet, there’s coronavirus-protocol training and testing. Then there’s sexual-harassment training, as mandated by New York State. And then there’s equity-diversity-and-inclusion training, which can run from four to eight hours. Faced with all this instruction, a writer of Broadway musicals says: “This may sound out of touch, but shouldn’t there be some training on how to rehearse and fix the show?” No kidding!

"With revolution comes excess. A playwright says four theaters have canceled her plays because, as a white female, she doesn’t check the diversity box. Another writer, helping to put together a panel on diversity in the theater, put forth the name of a young Black male writer whose work she admires. She was told that the panel already had two people of color, so what it needed were writers whose genders were fluid. “And then they ticked off genders, poly this and poly that, that I’d never heard of,” she says."

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by Anonymousreply 533November 28, 2022 8:16 PM

Is Lin hiding a double chin underneath that beard? Step away from the churros, papi.

by Anonymousreply 534November 28, 2022 8:16 PM

"The cost of diversity coaches, intimacy coaches (you can’t have an onstage kiss without an intimacy coach monitoring every quiver of a lip), and diversity-training modules adds up as well. Hit shows such as Hamilton, Wicked, and The Lion King can afford it. But smaller shows—and struggling nonprofit theaters—are feeling the pinch.

“All of these things cost thousands of dollars,” says the head of a small nonprofit. “I had to spend $1,000 to create a ‘healing space.’ We don’t have any money as it is. I’m trying to get shows on, but I’m spending 40 percent of my time on human resources.”

Theaters are paying “diversity dramaturges” to vet scripts to make sure they don’t contain insensitive language or offensive stereotypes, a development that rattles some writers. “You can’t write with the idea that someone is looking over your shoulder,” says a writer who is not white but who is writing about cultures other than his own. “This is impinging on the creative process.”

by Anonymousreply 535November 28, 2022 8:20 PM

That Riedel article is almost a year old! And still paywalled (I'd like to read it without subscribing).

by Anonymousreply 536November 28, 2022 8:36 PM

[quote]He might air on the cunty side, but man do I miss his reporting.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 537November 28, 2022 8:53 PM

Can I suggest "Airing On The Cunty Side" as our next TG thread title? I kinda love it.

It's better than Reba, Lea, or Beanie "jokes" at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 538November 28, 2022 9:03 PM

That Riedel article is interesting, but note that it dates from January 2022.

by Anonymousreply 539November 28, 2022 9:49 PM

OT this is television but Patti is Broadway

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by Anonymousreply 540November 28, 2022 10:03 PM

Much like last holiday season, Covid seems to be affecting Broadway schedules again. Some Like It Hot cancelled its performance tonight as of 4:30pm.

by Anonymousreply 541November 28, 2022 10:18 PM

Patti has left Twitter. Good. Everyone should follow.

by Anonymousreply 542November 28, 2022 10:36 PM

J Harrison Ghee is recovering from a pre existing injury and will return on Thursday. Tonite was cancelled to rehearse the understudy.

by Anonymousreply 543November 28, 2022 11:09 PM

How does the understudy identify?

by Anonymousreply 544November 29, 2022 12:20 AM

Some Like It Tranny!

by Anonymousreply 545November 29, 2022 12:24 AM

I think Rosie left Twitter too, but can't confirm it....

by Anonymousreply 546November 29, 2022 12:28 AM

FYI: I actually played the lead in “The Mousetrap” at, of all places, Idaho State University, in Pocatello, in the summer of 1972. A thankless role, the lead is the detective who’s arrived at a snowed-in country inn to investigate a murder. He’s constantly calling all the other characters into the single set, a living room. The supporting roles are much more fun, though the text is not particularly funny.

There’s one climactic twist, typical Christie, which is fun. But, overall, I’d say the whole endeavor is really little more than a trifle. Stoppard it ain’t.

by Anonymousreply 547November 29, 2022 1:50 AM

Rosie did delete her Twitter.

What a mess

by Anonymousreply 548November 29, 2022 2:01 AM

Ugh, I have TDF tix for SLIH for tomorrow night so now I'm hoping they cancel tomorrow night's performance with the understudy and cancel it early enough for me not to have to schlep into Manhattan in the rain.

Not to mention, now I'm reading so many bad things about SLIH on ATC.

by Anonymousreply 549November 29, 2022 2:33 AM

[quote]J Harrison Ghee

Has anyone ever described him as "like buttah?"

by Anonymousreply 550November 29, 2022 2:41 AM

[Quote] paywalled (I'd like to read it without subscribing).

Why do you think you should get to read someone’s writing for free?

by Anonymousreply 551November 29, 2022 3:50 AM

If you post a link, the least you can do is make it available to read

by Anonymousreply 552November 29, 2022 3:53 AM

R496

I saw a vid of the Follies that VC was in after Bernie left the part and honestly....she sung too powerfully to convey the shellshocked longing of Losing My Mind. I watched it going "oh...her Sally is sturdy enough to survive this."

I thought Bernadette was terrific. Incredibly raw, unsettling, lost, bitter, hopeless...and you could see that she was still this appealing woman who could have been enjoying her life instead of pining for Ben...but was waaaay too broken to be happy.

I really don't understand why people crapped on Bernadette during that Follies run. Honestly, please explain it to me because in my eyes she GOT it.

by Anonymousreply 553November 29, 2022 4:56 AM

[quote]I really don't understand why people crapped on Bernadette during that Follies run. Honestly, please explain it to me because in my eyes she GOT it.

Maybe the explanation is as simple as this: Bernadette is well known for being a very inconsistent performer from night to night, so you may have just caught her on a really good night while others did not.

by Anonymousreply 554November 29, 2022 4:59 AM

Because she started off depressive, r553. Listen to Collins do it. She comes in manic and happy and excited to be there. It would be understandable that a manic phase would have gotten Sally to head to NYC for the reunion.

by Anonymousreply 555November 29, 2022 5:02 AM

How soon will K-POP post its closing notice? Tomorrow?

by Anonymousreply 556November 29, 2022 5:08 AM

R554 I did not know Bernie had that reputation. Did she always? Before Follies?

It was my first time seeing her live and I could hear her voice was straining a bit with the score and from age too. I still thought she pulled through. No big mistakes or cracks or anything. She really sung well...but I could image she had rougher nights. So was it just Follies she was inconsistent with?

R555 That's fair I suppose. Is Sally supposed to be manic? I guess it could read that way. She seemed more desperate and sad and also a little giddy initially to me. Does the show really work better when Sally shows up and you have no clue she's dealing with melancholy?

I liked what Bernie did just fine.

I thought people disliked it because she looked too pretty or something. I remember reading a review about how she wasn't frumpy enough.

...see that's why I cannot abide Imelda S as Sally. I mean....are you kidding? It's ridiculous she'd show up, with thar face and body, thinking she could win back an old boyfriend who is now filthy rich with a glamorous life. Absurd. And it pushes the whole piece into a caricature or cartoon.

I prefer when a performance doesn't swing too wildly to extremes. I suppose if Sally starts off really happy and then has this terrible breakdown, audiences will go "WOW - what an EVOLUTION!1!"

Bernie's Sally was clearly a little sad from the start, but it still built. She cracked worse as the night went on. And the staging of her Losing My Mind was just brilliant.

People wereveven shitting on the staging of LMM though, with her standing and crying, which Bernie was so honest with. Meanwhile, with Imelda there's a vanity mirror and pill popping and a wig coming off....so much stuff that didn't need to be there at all. But she gets rave reviews apparently!

Weird.

by Anonymousreply 557November 29, 2022 6:38 AM

[quote]Because she started off depressive, [R553]. Listen to Collins do it. She comes in manic and happy and excited to be there.

Dorothy Collins ran onto the stage, That's how excited she was to be there. Bernadette made the obvious (and inappropriate) choice of walking tentatively onto the stage, nervously looking around as though she were expecting at any moment to be hit in the face. A great actress she is not.

by Anonymousreply 558November 29, 2022 7:57 AM

She also had dumb dumb as a director.

by Anonymousreply 559November 29, 2022 8:14 AM

True, R559. Eric Schaeffer is a hack.

by Anonymousreply 560November 29, 2022 8:17 AM

Every weekend I paint for umpteen hours = manic

And yes I miss a lot living like a shut-in = depressive

by Anonymousreply 561November 29, 2022 10:48 AM

Bernadette’s Sally was very different in DC. She practically bolted onto the stage, wearing a much-criticized red dress that was clearly chosen to make Sally the center of attention. When she danced in Who’s That Woman, she also clearly stood out. This woman had been practicing her Follies dance steps for 30 years,

Broadway was much more on the depressive side. Her dress was replaced, and the dancing played heavily on the idea that none of them could remember the steps.

by Anonymousreply 562November 29, 2022 11:57 AM

She certainly was not too pretty.

by Anonymousreply 563November 29, 2022 12:27 PM

I remember Bernadette in DC. SHe was practically sobbing through "Losing My Mind." Not a good choice.

by Anonymousreply 564November 29, 2022 12:45 PM

Losing My Mind by Bernadette was a genuinely awful performance. The worst kind of self indulgence. The performance was completely about how she felt about it with no space for the audience to experience it. I found it completely blinkered and appalling to watch, and was shocked that there was zero guidance from the director or that Sondheim allowed it. Given that Bernadette has given some of my favorite performances over the years, I was genuinely surprised at how awful it was. A textbook definition of how not to perform a song, or role for that matter.

by Anonymousreply 565November 29, 2022 12:56 PM

Follies is like herpes

by Anonymousreply 566November 29, 2022 1:00 PM

Sorry to break in to the Follies talk--I'm not really familiar with J Harrison Ghee, but after hearing the terrible version of "I Am What I Am" that's being used in Virgin Atlantic commercials, I went to Youtube to listen to better versions, and found this one. I don't usually like the disco and dance versions, because they tend to rob it of some of (or a lot of) the emotion, but I enjoyed this (even if I did end up rewatching the Walter Charles and Gary Beach versions, which I like more). It's fun and well done.

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by Anonymousreply 567November 29, 2022 1:17 PM

Never saw Follies until the most recent revival. Bernie’s first few lines and Danny’s reaction to her made me think she had either escaped from the loony bin or just went through extensive shock therapy.

by Anonymousreply 568November 29, 2022 1:17 PM

For those who missed the latest Internet kerfluffle/proof why people shouldn't use Twitter, Jackie Hoffman made a joke about how much she paid for a glass of wine at Ain't No Mo and got it trouble for it. The tweet has since been deleted.

Perhaps the worst part is that it allowed people to spread the dubious claim that the playwright is the youngest ever. The BWW boards have already been dissecting that one. (Shelagh Delaney's A Taste Of Honey, staged on Broadway when she was 21, would seem to beat him by a wide margin. That production naturally starred...Angela Lansbury. All roads lead back to...)

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by Anonymousreply 569November 29, 2022 1:31 PM

I know it's too early, but this thread was started when the previous one was only at r570, so I went ahead and started a new one to head off the Rebas at the pass, using r538's suggestion.

For when the time comes:

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by Anonymousreply 570November 29, 2022 1:35 PM

When LaChanze and her daughter were both on broadway they were heavily publicized as THE FIRST MOTHER AND DAUGHTER APPEARING ON BROADWAY AT THE SAME TIME. Sorry, but Debbie (Woman of the Year) and Carrie (Agnes of God) were there first. No one cared. Just like no one cares if Delaney was the youngest. Rewriting history is becoming more and more common.

by Anonymousreply 571November 29, 2022 1:40 PM

Weren't Debbie and Carrie together earlier in IRENE?

by Anonymousreply 572November 29, 2022 1:43 PM

They were, r572. Carrie was in the ensemble of IRENE and stood out because she was so much younger and more petite than the other chorus ladies.

by Anonymousreply 573November 29, 2022 1:53 PM

R557

"Does the show really work better when Sally shows up and you have no clue she's dealing with melancholy?"

Yes. Plays generally work better if the audience's perception of the character changed over the course of the action. Also, Sallys first lines, "Can I keep it?" "I'm so glad I came" and the fact that she is the first to arrives shows how excited she is. A depressive opening works against the script (and not in a good way).

"People wereveven shitting on the staging of LMM though, with her standing and crying, which Bernie was so honest with. Meanwhile, with Imelda there's a vanity mirror and pill popping and a wig coming off....so much stuff that didn't need to be there at all. But she gets rave reviews apparently!"

Wig coming off? Now, we know you did not see Staunton. You saw Joanna RIding, her replacement,. She introduced that piece of business.

by Anonymousreply 574November 29, 2022 1:54 PM

Add me as another person who felt Bernadette was too depressed and quivery from her very first entrance in that abominable Follies revival. Shell-shocked is a perfect description. And her Losing My Mind was too one-note.

by Anonymousreply 575November 29, 2022 1:56 PM

[quote] When LaChanze and her daughter were both on broadway they were heavily publicized as THE FIRST MOTHER AND DAUGHTER APPEARING ON BROADWAY AT THE SAME TIME.

Other examples long before LaChanze and her daughter, Celia Rose Gooding...

Rosemary Harris and daughter Jennifer Ehle were on Broadway at the same time in 2000 (in Waiting in the Wings and The Real Thing, respectively), and were both nominated for Best Actress, with Ehle winning. Tammy Grimes and Amanda Plummer were also on Broadway at the same time in 42nd Street and A Taste of Honey in 1981.

by Anonymousreply 576November 29, 2022 1:57 PM

I totally agree r575. Since the original production it seems to have been forgotten that these are Follies numbers that comment on the characters' reality. They are not meant to be reality itself.

Which is one of the many reasons that to date, no production has surpassed the original.

by Anonymousreply 577November 29, 2022 2:00 PM

[Quote] It's ridiculous she'd show up, with thar face and body, thinking she could win back an old boyfriend who is now filthy rich with a glamorous life. Absurd. And it pushes the whole piece into a caricature or cartoon.

What a moronic comment.

by Anonymousreply 578November 29, 2022 2:07 PM
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