Guess we’ll continue this thread with a Reba name, since no one else was “quick on the trigger”. Continue discussion of Follies, Beanie, Kimberly Akimbo, and Lea. Previous thread linked below:
THEATRE GOSSIP # 503 - Dear Reba McEntire
|by Anonymous||reply 601||November 29, 2022 4:42 PM|
The correct formatting/title would have been—THEATRE GOSSIP #503: The "Dear Reba McEntire" Edition.
I hate to be a hall monitor, but it must be said.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 21, 2022 7:58 PM|
an empty vessel, r1?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 21, 2022 8:13 PM|
In the middle of a long discussion about Sondheim's drinking and cocaine use, which could have offered inspiration for an interesting title, we get...another title about Reba.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 21, 2022 8:22 PM|
Absolut Citron, not Lemon
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 21, 2022 8:25 PM|
Also, FYI--one reason to put the link to the previous thread in r1 instead of the OP is that these theatre gossip threads keep getting crossed out, so if the link is in the first post, it won't be shown or clickable.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 21, 2022 8:32 PM|
OP- What an asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 21, 2022 8:35 PM|
I think this settles why Stephen Sondheim hated Elaine Stritch.
Drinks hate other drinks
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 21, 2022 8:41 PM|
At the memorial, Jonathan Tunick spoke of Sondheim drinking him under the table.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 21, 2022 9:05 PM|
One more, because this one's nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 21, 2022 9:09 PM|
If you had the mother Sondheim had, you'd probably drink yourself silly, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 21, 2022 9:10 PM|
R3 is correct. Time to pack up the tired Reba BS and move into this century.
OP: you kinda suck at thread titles.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 21, 2022 9:12 PM|
All of the pearl clutching about drinking and drugs is hilarious. Aren't most of you old enough to remember the 60s, 70s and 80s?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 21, 2022 9:15 PM|
As if LuPone wasn't coked out of her mind during Evita.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 21, 2022 9:17 PM|
[quote]I hate to be a hall monitor, but it must be said.
No it didn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 21, 2022 9:21 PM|
"His criticism was mainly aimed at Jerry Herman for writing too lyrical a piece for a character--Mack Sennett-- who's too earthy and selfish to think of expressing himself so openly."
Which is why I don't read Mordden's books. "Openly?" Sennett warns Mabel not to become involved with him and, damn, he's proven absolutely right. About as lyrical as a mortician's slab.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 21, 2022 10:18 PM|
Thanks, R15. What Sennett is openly expressing in the song is a warning that he cannot be openly expressive of his love for Mabel. It's a brilliant and probably unique song in that way, and it's pretty shocking if Mordden or anyone else who purports to be any sort of expert on musical theater is unable to understand why.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 21, 2022 10:29 PM|
So...we're going back there are we?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 21, 2022 10:32 PM|
Yes, Steve liked vodka at home, a nice white while out. He enjoyed some weed during his final relationship after staying away from it for many years. The widow enjoyed good coke, but slowed down considerably when it became a problem. You were never judged about your vices at the Sondheim house, your choice of favorite films on the other hand…
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 21, 2022 10:34 PM|
Thanks to whoever posted that wonderful link in the last thread of Maria Friedman singing "Saga of Jenny" in that late 1990s production of LADY IN THE DARK. I thought she was absolutely sensational and held the stage without a lot of scenic, lighting, and special effects nor legions of chorus boys.
It amazes me the range of roles female stars in the UK, like Friedman, Imelda Staunton and Elaine Paige, for example, have gotten to play on prominent London stages. They're not always great, of course, but I find it impressive that they're afforded all those opportunities.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 21, 2022 10:38 PM|
More please, R18!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 21, 2022 10:39 PM|
I’m curious about the marriage between Sondheim and Jeff. I can’t imagine them having sex…so was it just companionship?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 21, 2022 10:48 PM|
R21 what're ya doin'? Writin' a book?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 21, 2022 10:56 PM|
R21, I can imagine it...it's really hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 21, 2022 10:57 PM|
Coke made a strong return along the Broadway campus during the late 90’s and onward, the entire cast of Fosse basically had their dealer living backstage! There are a few notorious coke fiends still snorting away in certain theater spot bathrooms, although it is sort of boring again for most.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 21, 2022 10:58 PM|
Wasn't one of the ensemble actually dealing backstage, R24?
I won't give a name in case I'm wrong. But it was a woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 21, 2022 11:06 PM|
I thought Lapine wrote about Sondheim's aversion to pot in putting it together(but it has been awhile since I read it so I'm probably wrong)
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 21, 2022 11:07 PM|
If by "aversion" you mean sharing a doobie most afternoons with Lapine upstairs at Playwrights Horizons, R26....
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 21, 2022 11:09 PM|
OP You fucking suck cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 21, 2022 11:28 PM|
R25 YES! No powered cheap either, nice and rocky, thank the Lord they had plenty of strainers!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 21, 2022 11:48 PM|
^powdered, typing sober sucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 21, 2022 11:49 PM|
I hope Sondheim's drug and alcohol use didn't hasten his early death.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 22, 2022 12:02 AM|
Oh, please, r21, do you actually think anyone on DL knows the details of his sex life?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 22, 2022 12:05 AM|
I know his husband and it was a real marriage in every sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 22, 2022 12:14 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 22, 2022 12:16 AM|
My prejudice is showing, but was there a lot of drug use at Rent?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 22, 2022 12:59 AM|
That's nice to hear, r33.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 22, 2022 1:00 AM|
Well Jeff is a stronger man than I because I found 1985 Sondheim attractive but that doesn’t mean I wanted to have anal sex with 2012 Sondheim
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 22, 2022 1:05 AM|
who cares, r37?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 22, 2022 1:38 AM|
Who said there was anal sex? It may just have been some nipple tweaking by the end.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 22, 2022 1:39 AM|
Sondheim has spoken openly over the years about using both pot and vodka as intrinsic parts of his creative process. It's not shocking that Feinstein uttered it, it's more shocking that the fraus are clutching pearls over something that Steve himself freely admitted to.
Now regarding the coke use, that's an entirely new one to me. And I've been around his inner circles the last two decades...never has coke been whispered as one of his creative tools. Pot and booze surely, but the coke thing seems like a stretch. Not to say he didn't dabble like every other creative in the 70s/80s, but Steve's tonic was vodka.
However, to what extent he'd booze at home while writing is anyone's guess!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 22, 2022 1:41 AM|
2012 Sondheim? He died in 2021.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 22, 2022 2:18 AM|
[quote]Steve's tonic was vodka
No wonder I woke up in his dungeon with my underwear missing when he invited me over for a couple of gin-and-tonics after a preview.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 22, 2022 2:26 AM|
Toast of the Town
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 22, 2022 2:28 AM|
R40, agreed, it wasn’t him using the cocaine, it truly was various flavors of Absolut that was his enjoyment.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 22, 2022 2:29 AM|
Former Village Voice critic and OBIE chair Michael Feingold died.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 22, 2022 3:04 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 22, 2022 3:24 AM|
How could they tell, r45?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 22, 2022 3:42 AM|
If anything kept Sondheim from productivity, it wasn't booze or pot. It was the fact that he appeared to have answered every fucking letter he received since the 1950's. I had no idea the man would respond to seemingly everyone. Makes me wish I'd written him at some point.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 22, 2022 3:57 AM|
He answered all my letters. I treasure the replies.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 22, 2022 4:14 AM|
First audience chatter from the NYTW Merrily first preview is in, and Daniel Radcliffe’s vocals are exactly what you’d expect them to be.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 22, 2022 5:16 AM|
Critical chatter to pass on:
& JULIET is getting the business at the box office from young/non-traditional audiences that everyone expected K-POP to get.... but isn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 22, 2022 5:20 AM|
[quote]I’m curious about the marriage between Sondheim and Jeff. I can’t imagine them having sex…so was it just companionship?
Jeff was/is attracted to MUCH older men. It wasn't all an act to get at the Sondheim millions.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 22, 2022 5:29 AM|
[quote]No wonder I woke up in his dungeon with my underwear missing when he invited me over for a couple of gin-and-tonics after a preview.
Those Sondheim dungeon jokes never get stale!
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 22, 2022 5:57 AM|
Michael Feingold review from a series "Old Movies for Theater Lovers," typically packed with fun and arcane lore and an effusive love for the arts.
"I am something of a hermit by nature, and I was never wholly comfortable with the New York critical fraternity’s old-time habit of clustering together and muttering comments on the piece under review that evening."
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 22, 2022 7:25 AM|
R.I.P. Michael Feingold.
Here is a perceptive piece he wrote after the death of fellow drama critic, John Simon. You can get a good sense of Feingold's evenhanded approach to criticism by the way he excoriates and laments Simon's joyless and bitter career.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 22, 2022 9:10 AM|
I've never understood the esteem and importance the NY theatre establishment placed on critics. (Or more accurately, used to: no one gives a damn about critics in 2022, or even about reviews). Remember Frank RIch when he reviewed theatre ? They used to name Bway theatres after them, for heaven's sake.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 22, 2022 2:45 PM|
Jinxx Monsoon joining Chicago as Mama Morton.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 22, 2022 3:05 PM|
I guess she hasn't the notes for Mary Sunshine.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 22, 2022 3:08 PM|
John Simon was the bitchiest straight man ever. When told of the Glenn Close TV version of "South Pacific," he responded, "Who's she playing...Lieutenant Cable?"
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 22, 2022 4:52 PM|
Who has won more undeserved Tony Awards, Audra McDonald or Comden & Green?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 22, 2022 5:58 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 22, 2022 5:59 PM|
Recall walking out of night, mother, towards Broadway and looking up to see John Simon right next to me. We got to the corner of 45th and Broadway, when I looked up at him and said, "If you hate this play, I will never read NY Magazine again. And I'll find you".
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 22, 2022 6:08 PM|
R60. Audra. Lousy actress. Great singer though.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 22, 2022 6:31 PM|
Watch Audra in "WIT" on HBO. She is sublime.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 22, 2022 7:23 PM|
[quote]Who has won more undeserved Tony Awards, Audra McDonald or Comden & Green?
Someone has a stick up his ass today.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 22, 2022 7:37 PM|
[quote]I've never understood the esteem and importance the NY theatre establishment placed on critics. (Or more accurately, used to: no one gives a damn about critics in 2022, or even about reviews). Remember Frank RIch when he reviewed theatre ? They used to name Bway theatres after them, for heaven's sake.
Simple explanation: Back in the day, the theater establishment felt that a couple of critics made enough of a worthy contribution to the art form through their reviews that they deserved to have theaters named after them. You're free to disagree with that practice, and anyway, now the Brooks Atkinson one has been renamed for Lena Horne.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 22, 2022 7:49 PM|
If you go back and read Brooks Atkinson's reviews, written on opening night on deadline, his ability to recognize and assess great work is really remarkable. He starts to falter a bit as he gets to around 1960, but his reviews are largely impressive. Bit of a bummer that he lost the honor of having a theatre named in his honor.
Now Walter Kerr - a wonderful writer with terrible taste - should never have had a theatre named for him. I read his reviews and was astounded by the number of shows he trashed that became classics.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 22, 2022 8:21 PM|
Walter Kerr was tone-deaf, so his reviews of musicals were generally clueless.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 22, 2022 8:28 PM|
Just received notice that the first preview of The Collaboration set for 11/29 was cancelled with no further details. Any gossip?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||November 22, 2022 8:51 PM|
[quote] Someone has a stick up his ass today.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||November 22, 2022 8:56 PM|
I prefer Audra's acting to her singing.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||November 22, 2022 9:21 PM|
I like Audra as a person and as an actress but I don’t love her voice either.
People keep clamoring for her to play Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||November 22, 2022 9:25 PM|
Going to see 1776 tomorrow. Can't wait!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||November 22, 2022 9:45 PM|
Covid cases in the company is the reason for The Collaboration delay.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||November 22, 2022 10:09 PM|
If I had Hepburn as a neighbor, I’d be drunk or stoned half the time as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 22, 2022 10:13 PM|
Was it Kerr who wrote about a musical:
"There were a lot of obstacles in getting this musical to the stage. Some in the cast sacrificed their salaries to make sure the curtain would go up. Then the worst thing of all happened......the curtain went up."
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 22, 2022 10:13 PM|
Elaine Stritch finally created a leading lady role in musical comedy via the work of Kerr, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 22, 2022 10:15 PM|
Is this a coup de theatre, elder show queens?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 22, 2022 10:17 PM|
So, how did Walter Kerr ever come to have a theater named for him? And wasn't this long before the naming of the Richard Rodgers Theatre?
Did NO ONE want to name a theatre for Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Ethel Merman or Mary Martin (to name just 4 obvious candidates) before Walter Kerr got his? Really seems kind of shocking. I can't quite comprehend the politics here.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 22, 2022 10:17 PM|
The wheat field in YOU WILL GET SICK wants to be a coup de theatre, but it really isn't; the reveal is underwhelming.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 22, 2022 11:07 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 22, 2022 11:08 PM|
Not So Fun Fact: Jinkx Monsoon and DL Icon Sara "only giving 70%" Porkalob are both graduates of the same expensive arts college in Seattle!
They don't appear to be friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 23, 2022 1:46 AM|
So the cast recording of Funny Girl featuring Lea Michelle is getting raves. Like really good reviews.
Has anyone heard from Beanie ? (seriously, not a joke)
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 23, 2022 2:01 AM|
[quote] Did NO ONE want to name a theatre for Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, Ethel Merman or Mary Martin
Williams was a fag, Miller was a Jew, Merman was a cvnt and Martin was a lady licker.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 23, 2022 2:07 AM|
Who thinks that FUNNY GIRL recording is good?!?!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 23, 2022 2:11 AM|
Hugh still out of TMM
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 23, 2022 2:20 AM|
Jinkx Monsoon IS Matron Mama Morton!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 23, 2022 2:25 AM|
Jinx Falkenburg IS...dead...to ME!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 23, 2022 2:37 AM|
Heres one r85
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 23, 2022 2:49 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 23, 2022 2:51 AM|
Anyone who would write "Fanny-Tastic" should be fired.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 23, 2022 3:09 AM|
[quote]Not So Fun Fact: Jinkx Monsoon and DL Icon Sara "only giving 70%" Porkalob are both graduates of the same expensive arts college in Seattle!
Now, don't you shortchange Porkalob! She said that she gives a whopping 75 percent, not a mere 70!
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 23, 2022 3:11 AM|
[quote]Walter Kerr was tone-deaf, so his reviews of musicals were generally clueless.
I wonder how he would've reviewed Beanie's "Funny Girl."
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 23, 2022 3:36 AM|
[quote] Who thinks that FUNNY GIRL recording is good?!?!
The kids on Broadway World are going nuts for it, as if it's the greatest cast album ever made. I listened to it once for curiosity's sake, and never intend to listen to it again. There's no need.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||November 23, 2022 3:37 AM|
[quote]Hugh still out of TMM
Hugh was doing Thoroughly Modern Millie somewhere?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||November 23, 2022 3:56 AM|
I'd love to see Millie. Missed it the first time. Mainly I love Harriet Harris as batshit crazy Mrs Meers. Would that character be considered offensive now, if she was always supposed to be a piss poor imitation of an Asian by what's clearly a bad actress character...?
Who is Hugh's understudy?
I listened to People and Parade and Lea was good but annoying as usual with the gasps and dramatic tics and Barbra isms.
Any Phantom dish?
|by Anonymous||reply 96||November 23, 2022 5:37 AM|
[quote]Who is Hugh's understudy?
Matt Doyle's husband.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||November 23, 2022 1:02 PM|
James Norton is hot as fuck, but not even he could get me to see that A LITTLE LIFE shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||November 23, 2022 1:22 PM|
Jeez, did I miss the posting of the Sondheim memorial?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||November 23, 2022 2:28 PM|
[quote] Who is Hugh's understudy?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||November 23, 2022 2:31 PM|
Did Doyle and Clayton get married or are they still engaged?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||November 23, 2022 2:39 PM|
Anyone joining the Broadway Book Club? We can read each one of the plays, gather here, and agree that every single one of them suck, and go back to reminiscing about FOLLIES
|by Anonymous||reply 102||November 23, 2022 2:50 PM|
Isn't James Norton just a tad too old to be playing one of those boys in A Little Life?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||November 23, 2022 2:52 PM|
James Norton is fucking hot but apparently straight
|by Anonymous||reply 104||November 23, 2022 3:06 PM|
The grosses on Broadway are either feast or famine. On the famine end: A Christmas Carol ($218,944.00), Walking with Ghosts ($262,122.40), Topdog/Underdog ($265,167.00) and K-Flop ($127,261.70).
|by Anonymous||reply 105||November 23, 2022 3:28 PM|
Audra is the most over awarded Tony winner who arguably should only have one or two of those awards, without doubt. However, I agree with R64. She was incredible in the HBO Wit with Emma, and I think she gets stronger as a screen actress as she ages. I find her compelling and interesting on screen in a way that I don’t find her at all on stage, and that includes her singing which outside of Carousel never worked for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||November 23, 2022 3:36 PM|
Funny Girl is outgrossing Wicked and has consistently been sitting at 1.6 mil a week. A pretty incredible comeback for a show that was written off as dead. What will they mount for Lea if she chooses to stick around on Broadway, say two seasons from now? Does she look for a new show or a revival? Is there really anyone who could write a show for her? That style is pretty much dead and gone on Broadway.
Also, I would have paid money for a John Simon review of Beanie. Can you imagine? It would have been fucking epic.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||November 23, 2022 3:53 PM|
The Funny Girl grosses are impressive. I thought Lea was terrific, but as I sat there, I was struck by (from what I was hearing around me) how much the Lea/Rachel in Glee/Rachel in Glee on Broadway in "Funny Girl" was playing into the audience's experience/joy.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||November 23, 2022 6:08 PM|
The Little Mermaid on Broadway starring Lea Michele
|by Anonymous||reply 109||November 23, 2022 6:11 PM|
Lea is also sticking around until the end of May with a one week vacation in February. That’s pretty impressive considering some replacements sign on for only 2 or 3 months and, sometimes, even less.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 23, 2022 7:08 PM|
On this day in 1964 Bajour opened at The Shubert Theatre for 232 performances.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||November 23, 2022 7:13 PM|
Well, R110, considering that Lea seemed to have come thisclose to being completely canceled for her apparently horrendous behavior and attitude, I don't think it's all that impressive or surprising that she's perfectly happy to remain as the lauded star of a Broadway show in her dream role for a while. She may well consider herself VERY lucky that FG played out for her the way it did, and I don't think we should assume that TV and film offers have necessarily begun pouring in for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||November 23, 2022 7:17 PM|
For those still looking for TMO stuff, I found a site that had several more videos that I hadn't seen before. Seriously, everybody was filming the thing. There's one of the main shower scene (combined with another view that was already posted), one of the JW/MO scene, then one that has closer views of both.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||November 23, 2022 7:18 PM|
Like I'm doing to download something from a WeTranser file on DL. Not even with a condom!
|by Anonymous||reply 114||November 23, 2022 7:28 PM|
Happy Birthday, Bajour!
|by Anonymous||reply 115||November 23, 2022 7:33 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 116||November 23, 2022 7:35 PM|
[quote] I would have paid money for a John Simon review of Beanie. Can you imagine? It would have been fucking epic.
Like her ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||November 23, 2022 7:38 PM|
Back at you, r116.
Given how much the grosses have fallen since the original leak, the producers would probably be glad for anything to get that attention back. (Hmmm...maybe I'm a marketing intern for the show...)
|by Anonymous||reply 118||November 23, 2022 7:45 PM|
The producers grossly misjudged the interest in a leaked dick pic and should have never brought back Take Me Out. It only did as well as it did last season because of the subscriber base and even that wasn't all that great. You cannot give tickets away to it now.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||November 23, 2022 7:48 PM|
Doyle in Little Shop photos. Some claimed in previous threads this would be just another case of too-attractive guy with glasses in the role, but he looks fittingly nerdy to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||November 23, 2022 7:49 PM|
TAKE ME OUT
THAT will fill those seats!
|by Anonymous||reply 121||November 23, 2022 7:50 PM|
I enjoyed Titanique well enough, but I'm not sure this was the best showcase for them. They didn't seem to get any laughs from the audience, which made it fall a bit flat.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||November 23, 2022 7:54 PM|
Tickets for Merrily have been popping up on the NYTW website over the past 24 hours, for anyone who wants to see Groff spray saliva all over his costars. Might be too late (again), but you might luck out.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||November 23, 2022 8:03 PM|
The BroadwayWorld chat board is gushing about Merrily.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||November 23, 2022 8:21 PM|
Tweets about Merrily have all been raves.
Will it transfer for a limited run in the spring? Lindsay Mendez needs a second Tony.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||November 23, 2022 8:26 PM|
Lindsay Mendez needs to bid on a Deal a Meal on Ebay.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||November 23, 2022 8:28 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 127||November 23, 2022 8:30 PM|
Jesus, Radcliffe is barely up to Groff’s shoulder. Didn’t realize he was that tiny.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||November 23, 2022 8:32 PM|
Radcliffe bottoming for Groff would be so hot on paper.
Too bad Groff is a big ole bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||November 23, 2022 8:34 PM|
She's playing Mary, r126, not Roxie Hart.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||November 23, 2022 8:34 PM|
[quote]Isn't James Norton just a tad too old to be playing one of those boys in A Little Life?
the book and play follow the four guys from college until they're in their 50's.
The van Hove Dutch version at BAM did little or nothing to age the actors over the decades
One valid criticism of that production is that he actor playing the protagonist Jude was not handsome enough to have the charisma that drew the other characters to love Jude so passionately. Norton will fix that.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||November 23, 2022 8:47 PM|
Here's the thing about "Merrily..."
It's still backwards. No matter who's performing....
|by Anonymous||reply 132||November 23, 2022 9:30 PM|
Of course, MERRILY will transfer to Broadway. Why in heaven's name would it not? I'm sure everyone involved finally wants to get paid some decent money.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||November 23, 2022 10:42 PM|
I don’t know if Merrily would make money though. Radcliff will sell tickets but even Into the Woods is struggling after Sara left
|by Anonymous||reply 134||November 23, 2022 11:07 PM|
Doyle looks like a shortbus student
|by Anonymous||reply 135||November 24, 2022 12:00 AM|
[quote] She may well consider herself VERY lucky that FG played out for her the way it did, and I don't think we should assume that TV and film offers have necessarily begun pouring in for her.
Film offers, no. She’s never going to be a film actress but I’m sure there will be some TV offers given her success here. That’s probably a year out or so. I’m wondering if producers will approach her now though about mounting something for stage and if she’ll even want to stay.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||November 24, 2022 12:09 AM|
Maybe a live NBC production of Funny Girl next year?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||November 24, 2022 12:27 AM|
Radcliffe is NOT aging well.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||November 24, 2022 12:42 AM|
I think a fabulous ad campaign could be made for MERRILY on Broadway, prominently featuring Radcliffe and Groff and Sondheim's music. Even though many potential ticket buyers won't know the music, I think snippets could sound gorgeous and intriguing and even catchy in the right ad.
Now, whether or not there's an ad agency that could pull that off in this day and age is another issue.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||November 24, 2022 1:17 AM|
Use a snatch of the overture.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||November 24, 2022 1:18 AM|
I will say, the photo at R127 is exactly how I would imagine an ideal Charley, Franklin, and Mary to look like. Very inspired casting.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||November 24, 2022 1:21 AM|
Jesus Radcliff looks like Roy Cohn in the last half of Angels in America in that photo
|by Anonymous||reply 142||November 24, 2022 1:34 AM|
Lea might, if she's lucky, have the career her Glee costars Idina Menzel or Cheno have had. If she keeps doing shows every so often, and mixes in a TV appearance here and there, plus some club dates, she may cobble together something.
But she needs to learn to collaborate, and let go of the idea that she's a star. And she's starting this game kind of late, so she may only have a short run for the gold.
Then again, if she's now focusing on being a mom, she may like the flexibility of being Not The Star. Who knows if her sanity wins over her ego.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||November 24, 2022 1:35 AM|
She'll be a Mom character on a reboot of GLEE. A Candace Cameron without the relgiosity.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||November 24, 2022 1:42 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 145||November 24, 2022 1:42 AM|
R142 He looks fine in the official poster.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||November 24, 2022 1:49 AM|
I think Franklin should be hunky.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||November 24, 2022 1:54 AM|
R147 We all think stupid things once in awhile.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||November 24, 2022 1:56 AM|
Lindsey Mendez is NOT a Mary! She's not a Gussie, she's not a Beth. She has no business being in this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||November 24, 2022 2:02 AM|
In the original "Merrily..." there was a character named "Franklin Shepard (at age 43)" Is there anyone who can explain what that role was? I thought the same actors played their characters all the way through? Was it like Dream Laurey or Dead Skipper?
|by Anonymous||reply 150||November 24, 2022 2:04 AM|
No, r150, He was at the beginning and the end, as the guest speaker for the graduation ceremony at his old HS. He gives a speech that the students hate because it's so negative. The framing device has been cut since the original. (as far as I know...I haven't seen every production.)
|by Anonymous||reply 151||November 24, 2022 2:08 AM|
Idina and Lea in THE RINK!
|by Anonymous||reply 152||November 24, 2022 2:08 AM|
Lindsay Menedez has an unfortunate face.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||November 24, 2022 2:11 AM|
And that's why she aimed for Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||November 24, 2022 2:14 AM|
[quote]Lindsey Mendez is NOT a Mary! She's not a Gussie, she's not a Beth. She has no business being in this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||November 24, 2022 2:30 AM|
Lindsay Mendez has a hairy pussy!
|by Anonymous||reply 156||November 24, 2022 2:50 AM|
In that picture at R127 Radcliffe looks like Tom Schumacher.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||November 24, 2022 3:13 AM|
Jonathan Groff looks like a Mormon missionary. White shirt and dark pants? Who costumed this show?
|by Anonymous||reply 158||November 24, 2022 3:18 AM|
[quote]Jonathan Groff looks like a Mormon missionary. White shirt and dark pants? Who costumed this show?
Someone who's aware that it's a period piece, which apparently you are not.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||November 24, 2022 3:30 AM|
Every Broadway publicist and advertising agency is stuck in the world of analog media, and none of them know anything about major online outlets, podcasts , or anything else from the past 20 years and they work for producers who don’t either
|by Anonymous||reply 160||November 24, 2022 3:53 AM|
R150, I'm really surprised you don't know the answer to that question. Haven't you ever heard the original Broadway cast recording of MERRILY?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||November 24, 2022 3:59 AM|
R161 Oh, leave her.
Friedman directed this revival? Fuck, I hated the London production.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||November 24, 2022 4:10 AM|
The worst thing about Friedman's production of MERRILY in London -- so bad that it really sabotaged the show -- was the set. Incredible that they seem to have basically recreated it at NYTW.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||November 24, 2022 4:17 AM|
It’s the exact same production as the London one - sets, costumes, everything. Apparently Radcliffe saw it in London and petitioned to bring it here.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||November 24, 2022 4:44 AM|
R164 Stupid, and cannot sing.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||November 24, 2022 5:00 AM|
The production wouldn't be happening without him, r165.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||November 24, 2022 5:03 AM|
[quote]Now, whether or not there's an ad agency that could pull that off in this day and age is another issue.
Get me McMann & Tate!
|by Anonymous||reply 167||November 24, 2022 5:15 AM|
Ha. When I saw the video I wondered why she was singing "Mr. Macy's" instead of "Mr. Macy." I wonder if they'll fix the recording she's lip syncing to by tomorrow. Probably not.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||November 24, 2022 5:18 AM|
R165 He’s also 5’5.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||November 24, 2022 5:19 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 170||November 24, 2022 5:19 AM|
Feingold: the only--and I mean ONLY--remaining critic without a tin ear who could write and assess musicals with erudition, passion and, most important of all, taste. RIP, MF.
Silence is the most perfect expression of scorn, r51.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||November 24, 2022 5:29 AM|
I'd forgotten that the Village Voice is up and running again. That Miss Saigon review is still a wonderful read.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||November 24, 2022 6:07 AM|
I know I'm in the minority on DL.
But am I the only one who fails to find Mare Winningham less than magical onstage?
And by "less than magical" I mean "self-conscious and annoying."
|by Anonymous||reply 173||November 24, 2022 6:08 AM|
Oh, it's late...
Either "fails to find Mare magical onstage" or "finds Mare less than magical."
You get my drift.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||November 24, 2022 6:09 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 175||November 24, 2022 9:02 AM|
r120 Looks like Gideon Glick
|by Anonymous||reply 176||November 24, 2022 12:54 PM|
Did Matt Doyle say anything publily about L.M. Sarfati?
|by Anonymous||reply 177||November 24, 2022 12:59 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 178||November 24, 2022 1:22 PM|
Quotations from critics are the only thing publicists and marketers know how to put in ads. No. One. Cares. Do better. Be creative and exciting.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||November 24, 2022 1:30 PM|
That TimeOut review makes it sound like Jane Lynch stormed out with Beanie. She did not. Her contract was up.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||November 24, 2022 1:49 PM|
Jane avoided working with Lea. She left before her due date.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||November 24, 2022 1:56 PM|
Because it made sense to have Lea and Tovah rehearse and debut together, there would've been little point have Jane do the extra work of rehearsing with Lea just for a few weeks of shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||November 24, 2022 1:58 PM|
Replacements are put in by the stage manager, not the existing cast.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||November 24, 2022 1:59 PM|
Lea is opening the Parade and the audience is cheering. And she sang MR MACYS
|by Anonymous||reply 184||November 24, 2022 2:02 PM|
Beanie is eating everything in the house. Lea opened the Macy’s parade with Funny Girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||November 24, 2022 2:03 PM|
[quote] Someone who's aware that it's a period piece, which apparently you are not.
They didn’t have color in the 1960s through 1980s?
|by Anonymous||reply 186||November 24, 2022 2:05 PM|
[quote]She left before her due date.
Isn't Lynch a bit long in the tooth to be with child?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||November 24, 2022 2:19 PM|
I love watching the Macy’s parade to see all the white people in the VIP seats
|by Anonymous||reply 188||November 24, 2022 2:22 PM|
The Some Like It Hot number makes me want to buy tickets. But where was Christian?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||November 24, 2022 2:23 PM|
[quote] The Some Like It Hot number makes me want to buy tickets. But where was Christian
Three black people center stage. They didn’t want white people in the marketing of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||November 24, 2022 2:39 PM|
That's very smart. Those people look deathly at this time of year.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||November 24, 2022 2:42 PM|
Oh, little Julie Benko got another job! Good for her.
Oh. It was one-night only benefit performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||November 24, 2022 3:09 PM|
The last line of that Adam Feldman Funny Girl article is awful and hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||November 24, 2022 3:50 PM|
What is it?
|by Anonymous||reply 194||November 24, 2022 3:51 PM|
"If the end is right, it justifies the Bean."
|by Anonymous||reply 195||November 24, 2022 3:54 PM|
[quote]Beanie is eating everything in the house.
A normal day then?
|by Anonymous||reply 196||November 24, 2022 3:59 PM|
It's too bad they can't always do this outside before a parade. This is much better staging than what they're doing every night at the August Wilson.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||November 24, 2022 4:55 PM|
Stage version for comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||November 24, 2022 4:57 PM|
Is that Beanie in yellow at 0:31 twirling her flag in r197?
|by Anonymous||reply 199||November 24, 2022 5:04 PM|
That Adam Feldman review is embarrassing
|by Anonymous||reply 200||November 24, 2022 5:07 PM|
r189, Borle isn't in the title number in the show. They could have shoehorned him in like they did in the promotional video, giving him lines someone else usually sings, but probably not worth it to get him in costume and rework the staging to include someone who isn't a big name with a national profile (and may not be recognizable in drag anyway?).
|by Anonymous||reply 201||November 24, 2022 5:17 PM|
[quote] Did Matt Doyle say anything publily about L.M. Sarfati?
Oh, DID she. He literally referred to Lea as Satan in an interview last year.
“The show made monsters out of every single one of us, except for Jonathan Groff, because he’s literally like Jesus. Whenever I had to go on for him I used to say it was like going on with Satan, as a replacement for Jesus. I had to go on and deal with the most difficult person and fill in for the greatest man of all. So it was lose lose.”
|by Anonymous||reply 202||November 24, 2022 5:24 PM|
That was cleverly put. Thanks, r202.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||November 24, 2022 5:28 PM|
I bet Lea would have been as sweet as pie to Hunter Parrish.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||November 24, 2022 5:29 PM|
I could just about sit in the audience and watch Lea do Funny Girl. But I don't think I could sit with THAT audience and watch Lea do Funny Girl.
And that staging is awful......
|by Anonymous||reply 205||November 24, 2022 6:16 PM|
Borle wasn't in the parade because he's at home (still) rewriting....
|by Anonymous||reply 206||November 24, 2022 7:31 PM|
Maybe if he wrote it backwards...
|by Anonymous||reply 207||November 24, 2022 7:31 PM|
It's still forwards...
|by Anonymous||reply 208||November 24, 2022 7:31 PM|
Borle is too busy hauling out his oversized package and spanking it in a mirror to focus on his writing...
|by Anonymous||reply 209||November 24, 2022 7:55 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 210||November 24, 2022 8:29 PM|
Well, R184, to be fair "hey Isidor" doesn't scan very well.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||November 24, 2022 8:57 PM|
[Quote] and spanking it in a mirror
I hope he wears a mask. Wouldn't want the mirror to crack.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||November 24, 2022 9:14 PM|
True dat, R212. Borle is no oil painting.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||November 24, 2022 9:19 PM|
Re: Borle pics. I seem to recall there was an episode of Smash where he walked in front of the camera in little briefs where he had an nice bulge, but I don't remember what episode it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||November 24, 2022 9:32 PM|
You bitches would all kneel for Borle and present tongue.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||November 24, 2022 9:34 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 216||November 24, 2022 9:47 PM|
Borle is a talentless fug.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||November 24, 2022 9:56 PM|
...with a big weiner.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||November 24, 2022 9:57 PM|
Sondheim's letter to Patti after she offered her views on the Sweeney Todd film
|by Anonymous||reply 219||November 24, 2022 10:04 PM|
[quote]Sondheim's letter to Patti after she offered her views on the Sweeney Todd film
He certainly stated his boundaries!
|by Anonymous||reply 220||November 24, 2022 10:21 PM|
She wasn't wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||November 24, 2022 10:35 PM|
[quote]She wasn't wrong.
Are you trying to say she was right?
|by Anonymous||reply 222||November 25, 2022 2:19 AM|
Patti sent a note to Sondheim or to someone else?
|by Anonymous||reply 223||November 25, 2022 2:20 AM|
Turkey lurkey time... with dudes.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||November 25, 2022 2:28 AM|
R224 Grey guy is a beat behind Donna in the front.
R22 You may be right.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||November 25, 2022 2:32 AM|
to Sondheim, r222
|by Anonymous||reply 226||November 25, 2022 2:43 AM|
Wow at that letter! Sondheim was such a cunt to her in that letter. To tell Patti he didn’t want to invite her to the premiere, but did so only because he didn’t want to hurt her feelings.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||November 25, 2022 2:48 AM|
And Patti...*never* did it again.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||November 25, 2022 2:50 AM|
It was a screening, not a premiere. And he might have been a cunt to her because she hurt his feelings; he didn't ask her opinion, she just gave it. Apparently he couldn't deal with criticism. This sounds like the Jason Robert Brown and Ricky Ian Gordon incidents.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||November 25, 2022 2:55 AM|
I follow all these Sondheim letters on Insta and I'm wondering how they all came to be made public. If someone close to him to decided to release them it could have been with SS's wishes before he died, but then he would have had to make copies of them before mailing them. Obviously, even if Patti still possesses this letter, she wouldn't have wanted it out there.
So, what's the story? Who has all these letters in their possession?
|by Anonymous||reply 230||November 25, 2022 3:00 AM|
Sondheim was known to be very unwilling to hear criticism.
Which I can understand to some degree - when one has a vision, you really don't want a sea of people trying to project their lack of imagination onto it. But it has its downfalls, for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||November 25, 2022 3:01 AM|
Sondheim had no qualms about dishing other writers--in public if they were dead (like his notes in "Finishing the Hat") or privately, mostly, if they were living (when he was still friends with Arthur Laurents, they'd attend theatre together and were notorious bitches about what they'd seen.)
|by Anonymous||reply 232||November 25, 2022 3:04 AM|
[quote]Grey guy is a beat behind Donna in the front.
But he has better handwork than Donna in the front, who is just phoning it in.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||November 25, 2022 3:05 AM|
I have a friend who was a very handsome and precocious teen when he was in high school/college in the late 70s/early 80s and he began a letter correspondence with Sondheim, who was initially eager and seemingly flattered to exchange his thoughts and ideas about the Broadway theatre and show music. I believe they even met for coffee or lunch occasionally, though there was no sex (yes, you could be too young!).
But once my friend started asking Steve too many questions as to why he composed things as he did, which just might have veered ever so slightly into criticism, Steve immediately told him off in no uncertain terms and ended their relationship, such as it was.
I'm guessing there were scores of young men like my friend with similar experiences.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||November 25, 2022 3:10 AM|
Thanks for that, R202. I hadn't realized that Matt Doyle was yet another SPRING AWAKENING cast member who spoke out publicly against Lea Michele's apparently terrible behavior and horrendous personality.
Which for me prompts the question: What can the atmosphere have been like during rehearsals for that SA reunion concert? From what we can see in the documentary about the show and the reunion, all went smoothly, but I wonder if the people who did speak out against Lea, including Gerard Canonico and Matt Doyle at least, just kept their distance during rehearsals and on the night of the performance?
|by Anonymous||reply 235||November 25, 2022 3:27 AM|
And R219, thanks for your post as well. I had heard a rumor at the time that Sondheim had gone off on a star for offering criticism of the SWEENEY TODD movie, but the rumor I heard didn't name the star, and some people guessed it might have been Angela Lansbury. I'm really glad it wasn't her and was instead the notorious Patti Lu, which is not at all surprising.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||November 25, 2022 3:31 AM|
Sondheim adored Lansbury. I cannot imagine him sniping at her.
He learned to.... um, like Patti over the years. I guess.
Remember, one rumor was that for the longest time, Patti was on SS' "DNU list." Actors he just didn't want to work with, for any number of reasons. Maybe he simply didn't care for her voice/vocal style (and notorious diction). Maybe her personality.
But then, she sang Fosca in a regional production, and then the Sweeney Todd revival. So there.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||November 25, 2022 3:38 AM|
R235 Matt Doyle was not a part of the Spring Awakening reunion, as he wasn’t an ensemble member or swing in the original production, he was only Groff’s understudy. From what he has said in interviews, Lea hated working with any Melchior that wasn’t Groff so being his understudy was a nightmare.
Gerard Canonico was a part of the reunion as he actually was in the original ensemble, so he probably just kept his distance.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||November 25, 2022 3:41 AM|
[quote]Sondheim was known to be very unwilling to hear criticism. Which I can understand to some degree - when one has a vision, you really don't want a sea of people trying to project their lack of imagination onto it. But it has its downfalls, for sure.
I can certainly understand Sondheim not wanting to hear any criticism of his work while a show was still in the birthing stages, which if I recall was the situation with Jason Robert Brown. But for him to become nasty and bitchy and to freeze people out for any criticism of his work after it had been finished, no matter how constructively that criticism was expressed, does seem like a major flaw in his character. Maybe it all stems from the fact that his work was either taken for granted or dismissed in his early years -- WEST SIDE STORY, GYPSY, and FORUM -- and that was compounded by the awful reviews for and the tremendous failure of ANYONE CAN WHISTLE?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||November 25, 2022 3:43 AM|
Any excuse to repost this favorite Sondheim/Lansbury interview with Jesse Green.
[quote]Speaking of happy families, do you two recall ever having an argument? [quote]S.S.:No, but I don’t remember having arguments with any actor. I mean, I remember Zero Mostel having an argument with me, but I didn’t have an argument with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||November 25, 2022 3:46 AM|
[quote]Sondheim adored Lansbury. I cannot imagine him sniping at her.
I know he adored her. But as per several recent stories, he was known to go ballistic towards and/or freeze out people he adored if they said anything critical about his work or about a realization of his work that he liked, and apparently, he LOVED the SWEENEY movie. So I thought it MIGHT have been Lansbury, but I'm very glad to know that it wasn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||November 25, 2022 3:47 AM|
Thanks, R238. Do you know of any SPRING AWAKENING cast member other than Canonico who went on record about Lea's behavior before the reunion concert was planned?
|by Anonymous||reply 242||November 25, 2022 3:50 AM|
Hard to believe he could LOVE the Sweeney movie but I imagine his ego might have been in the way of his objectivity where that is concerned.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||November 25, 2022 3:53 AM|
R243. from all reports, he did love the movie, used to screen it for friends at his home. Apparently, he felt it worked beautifully as a movie and, believe it or not, for him that trumped the highly questionable singing of the elads and the elimination of all the choral parts.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||November 25, 2022 4:00 AM|
Maybe I'll have to watch it again with the sound off and see how that feels.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||November 25, 2022 4:04 AM|
I think he understood that choices were made to widen its audience...and it did.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||November 25, 2022 4:06 AM|
R246, although I know what you mean, I think it's debatable how much the audience for the film was widened by having non singers in the leads and by cutting out the chorus. Because the film was not really marketed as a musical, I've heard stories of some people who attended because it was a Johnny Depp/Tim Burton movie but they left after the first two or three songs.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||November 25, 2022 4:12 AM|
Many of the musicals Steve wrote by himself, the books are kinda shitty. And he seemed to not be able to see it. Or stop it.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||November 25, 2022 4:14 AM|
Is that translated from Mandarin?
|by Anonymous||reply 249||November 25, 2022 4:19 AM|
Though I never met Angela Lansbury I have no doubt that she had the grace and intelligence to know when to keep her opinions to herself. Honestly, that's just common sense and an unwritten law amongst theater people of taste and discretion when they attend a friend's show. And that's why Sondheim was justifiably so enraged by Lupone's blundering and uncalled for criticism (whether she was "right" or not doesn't matter).
I think anyone who works in the professional theater can understand this. Most often, you really don't want to to know what your friends think.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||November 25, 2022 4:26 AM|
Angela probably enjoyed it as much as Sondheim. She understood the business.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||November 25, 2022 4:44 AM|
The Sweeney Todd film was originally going to be longer and include the chorus. Production had to shut down for a while unexpectedly because Johnny Depp’s daughter became gravely ill and was in a London hospital for awhile.
Production started again when she recovered but the film was shortened as a result.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||November 25, 2022 5:12 AM|
Did the moron who posted the video on YouTube at R197 really call it "The Macy's Day Parade?"
|by Anonymous||reply 253||November 25, 2022 5:24 AM|
[quote]Production started again when she recovered but the film was shortened as a result
Gone was the freewheeling patio number.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||November 25, 2022 5:27 AM|
That sounds very inaccurate, R252. It may be true that Depp's daughter was gravely ill, but that wouldn't have affected the presence or absence of a chorus in the film -- especially since the orchestral music for most of the important choral sections is still in the movie, in the "Ballad of Sweeney Todd" at the beginning, "Pirelli's Miracle Elixir," and "God That's Good." So all they had to do was actually record the chorus in a studio, and obviously, Depp didn't have to be around for that.
I've read that the original plan was that the opening "Ballad of Sweeney Todd" would be sung by a chorus of Sweeney's victims, but apparently, at some point Burton decided he didn't want a chorus in the movie at all, and Sondheim bought his arguments.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||November 25, 2022 5:30 AM|
I never miss a Tim Burton musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||November 25, 2022 6:32 AM|
If the SWEENEY film was after the Doyle revival, maybe Patti felt because she had been a Lovett she had the right to comment and that Steve would have been interested?
|by Anonymous||reply 257||November 25, 2022 6:50 AM|
But what was the point of commenting about the film? Did Patti think they would re-shoot it to her liking?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||November 25, 2022 6:57 AM|
r230 After he died people started posting the letters they got from him, and the SondheimLetters account was created, with people continuing to send their letters in to it, to get some of that sweet sweet internet cred.
Though presumably the Patti one came from Patti.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||November 25, 2022 12:09 PM|
Was Patti LUPone in some sort of trance? What would make her think that Stephen Sondheim would want to know why she hated the Sweeney Todd movie?
Rosie O’Donnell tells a similar story about how Marc Shaiman got furious with her when she similarly critiqued the Hairspray movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||November 25, 2022 12:22 PM|
The Sweeney Todd film worked so much better than I thought it would when I saw it in theaters. The overall look and feel of the film was nearly perfect, and they didn't have to butcher the story to fit the screen. I didn't mind them cutting the opening number and all it's reprises, as those parts would've had to have been sung directly into the camera, which would've been weird and would've taken us out of the story with each reprise. And Depp's raspy singing voice didn't bother me; he sounded like a guy who'd really been through it "down in bloody Australia," like Lucy in Mame.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||November 25, 2022 12:38 PM|
No, nothing would have had to be sung directly into the camera. You must have an extremely limited imagination.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||November 25, 2022 1:11 PM|
R230, I don't recall the name of the person who began asking (on Twitter and probably other places) that people send copies of letters they'd received so they could all be published on Insta. In addition, this person nosed around and found copies of other letters that had already been made public--including a huge stash of letters that were about to be auctioned by some autograph dealer who somehow came into position of a lot of letters from SS to someone named Larry Miller (possibly from Miller's estate?). All of those appeared early on Insta. So a lot of people who had letters to share did so, and there you are.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||November 25, 2022 1:15 PM|
er, "came into possession."
|by Anonymous||reply 264||November 25, 2022 1:23 PM|
Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now?
Not sure this will be a hit, but maybe Christie's name will still sell it?
|by Anonymous||reply 265||November 25, 2022 1:57 PM|
I didn't mind the Sweeney Todd movie. I saw it before I saw the show, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||November 25, 2022 2:08 PM|
[Quote] Apparently he couldn't deal with criticism.
Totally beside the point. What possible benefit would there be to send criticism of a completed film after you have been a guest at a screening of sad film? No one asked you, everyone is nervous enough about how it will land, and shut the fuck up. That has nothing to do with somebody “being able to deal with criticism “. Total lack of class or empathy.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||November 25, 2022 2:17 PM|
So Sondheim could be a bitch but not Patti...
|by Anonymous||reply 268||November 25, 2022 2:19 PM|
Patti fired the first shot. And was a guest.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||November 25, 2022 2:25 PM|
What about Sondheim telling Patti that she wasn't a star live across the British airwaves?
|by Anonymous||reply 270||November 25, 2022 2:26 PM|
[quote]So Sondheim could be a bitch but not Patti...
Try and stop me. Just fucking TRY AND STOP ME!
|by Anonymous||reply 271||November 25, 2022 2:30 PM|
The bigger question is how did Patti ever manage to get back into Steve's good graces?
|by Anonymous||reply 272||November 25, 2022 2:30 PM|
That's not exactly what he said, and likely wasn't what he meant.
And on the Sweeney criticism, what's the point of it once the film's finished? At that point, you say "isn't it wonderful" and go on about your business.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||November 25, 2022 2:31 PM|
Yeah, the whole saying she wasn't a star thing doesn't sound like it was intended as bitchiness, but a matter-of-fact description of her drawing power.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||November 25, 2022 2:33 PM|
I suspect they had a "professional" friendship, but not necessarily a close personal one. They were near-neighbors in CT and apparently saw one another socially as part of a larger group. She's told stories about being in his company at parties.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||November 25, 2022 2:34 PM|
Parade highlights, for those of us who missed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||November 25, 2022 2:35 PM|
I had a personal encounter with Sondheim where he lost his temper with me (I was doing research in his home) and it came out of nowhere. Some time later he was over his fit of pique and he seemed to be sorry (without ever saying so). So I think it's possible that he wrote the letter to her in a flash of anger but ended up cooling down over time and letting bygones be bygones.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||November 25, 2022 2:39 PM|
I wish I'd known Stephen replied to letters, shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||November 25, 2022 2:43 PM|
It's absolutely true that, as creatives, there comes a point where we don't really want or need honest feedback. As a filmmaker, I definitely seek out opinions and sounding boards while creating, shaping and putting something together. I'm making it for others so I want to know how they react to it and if those reactions can help strengthen the piece (sometimes yes, sometimes no- the trick is learning how to figure that out).
However, once the piece is done and out there and i've either invited you to come see it or you've seen it on your own, I don't really need to hear any kind of criticism. There's nothing I can do about it at that point, and chances are I already am way ahead of you, know the fault(s) of the piece and, for one reason or another, this was the best I could make happen.
Of course, if I actually pin you down and say- Be honest and tell me XYZ, then no matter what you say, I cannot possibly be upset with you. I asked and brought it on myself. But that rarely happens at the finished stage. And if you don't like it, I can tell no matter what you say, and I will just gracefully accept the congratulations so as to not embarrass either of us.
Patti should have known better, except that as someone who doesn't create (as opposed to interpret), she can find herself easily off the hook for things that don't work. She can say- Hey, I gave it my all, but the director made me do x, or the score let me down and you can only do so much with the material, etc.
It's very possible she looked at this version of Sweeney Todd, assumed (likely correctly) that Sondheim had very little control over what they did to the material and how it was interpreted, and felt she was commiserating with a great artist and how dare they do this to one of his masterpieces, especially since she herself had participated in a very recently well reviewed production of the show. She may have momentarily forgot that Sondheim was still a creator and that she was insulting his creation, even if it wasn't her intention.
I'm not trying to get Patti off the hook; I still maintain that once it's finished, there's no reason to do anything more than smile and say congratulations if you don't like it, but I think she may have been looking at them as peer to peer and felt he needed the kind of bolstering a performer does when they're stuck in a dud.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||November 25, 2022 2:46 PM|
Sondheim and LuPone had a very complicated relationship.
She auditioned to replace Bernadette in Sunday in the Park and was not hired.
She auditioned for Cinderella in Into the Woods and was offered the Witch in Into the Woods…but negotiations broke down.
She was offered Passion but had already accepted Sunset Boulevard.
She played Nellie Lovett 3 times in Sweeney Todd. This is when their relationship was warmest.
Sondheim ripped her to shreds during the rehearsal for the live PBS taping for Passion that her singing was “mush” and she has stated that anyone with less experience than her would have turned in her equity card.
Sam Mendes took LuPone out to dinner and offered her Gypsy. Arthur Laurents and Sondheim instead made the offer to Bernadette Peters, who accepted. Patti wrote to Sam and asked him what happened? According to LuPone, he wrote her a very cold letter back saying this was Laurents wish.
Sondheim publicly criticized her Gypsy performance in his book Look I Made a Hat. (Well….it was mostly at Arthur, but also her)
She privately criticized his Sweeney Movie and then he got really upset by that (hence the letter)
Sondheim gave her notes during the Company philharmonic closing party in 2011 that she found extremely hurtful and publicly said “I wanted to smack him”
Lupone desperately wanted to replace Catherine Zeta Jones in A Little Night Music and called Trevor Nunn twice (who did not return her calls.) Sondheim privately reached out to Bernadette Peters instead and offered her the role.
Sondheim told her to her face during a radio interview for the London Company that she wasn’t a name outside the theatre and theatre needs a name to sell tickets.
Sondheim wrote an email to LuPone towards the end saying lovely things to her about her singing and performance that she treasures.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||November 25, 2022 2:46 PM|
That's a lot! Thanks, R280.
Those kids both sound pretty high maintenance to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||November 25, 2022 2:51 PM|
So they're BOTH cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||November 25, 2022 2:52 PM|
Whether or not she "privately" criticized the Sweeney, she evidently also criticized it to him in the letter which is the subject of his to her. That's what upset him.
I would imagine they were both difficult people. And I'm sure Patti's alliance with Arthur complicated matters for Sondheim, since I think by that time that friendship was irretrievably broken. I'm sure he tried his best with Patti at the end of his life--hence, that email. But during his life, he was always going t prefer working with Bernadette.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||November 25, 2022 2:54 PM|
Are you Sondheim's husband, r280?
|by Anonymous||reply 284||November 25, 2022 2:54 PM|
[quote] Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now?
Because every high school, college, church, Wednesday Afternoon Fine Arts League and senior citizen center does it and everyone knows the ending already.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||November 25, 2022 3:00 PM|
[quote]I had a personal encounter with Sondheim where he lost his temper with me (I was doing research in his home)
Shouldn't have opened that closet door.
Steve: What did I clearly say, guests, they must listen. What were you not to do? Open that door!
|by Anonymous||reply 286||November 25, 2022 3:05 PM|
Goody. Another terribly clever dungeon joke.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||November 25, 2022 3:11 PM|
[quote] She auditioned to replace Bernadette in Sunday in the Park and was not hired.
[quote]She auditioned for Cinderella in Into the Woods and was offered the Witch in Into the Woods…but negotiations broke down.
Roles she was nowhere near the correct type for. Dot in Sunday needs a bit of vulnerability, something that is not in Patti's lexicon. Cinderella needs to be beautiful and a bit naive, not a Long Island waitress screaming to the cook to double time it on her Turkey Club.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||November 25, 2022 3:17 PM|
R265, there was an Off-Broadway production of THE MOUSETRAP.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||November 25, 2022 3:17 PM|
Thanks, r289. I must have misread the article.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||November 25, 2022 3:22 PM|
And Patti would only havd been right for Desiree in A Little Night Music if the character was a fishwife in Canarsie, not an actress in Sweden.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||November 25, 2022 3:25 PM|
r260 Who would've thought that women from Long Island enjoy giving their unsolicited opinions?
r270 It was far more nuanced than that, though. He was talking about how now there are no Broadway stars who have mainstream appeal, like a Merman, etc. That Patti was a draw for the theatre crowd, but not for the mainstream audience.
It was actually an interesting discussion of the various eras of Broadway in terms of draws - from the writers, such as R&H, being the draw, to the talents being mainstream names, to now being Hollywood imports - both talent and the content - being the draw.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||November 25, 2022 3:28 PM|
[Quote] It's absolutely true that, as creatives, there comes a point where we don't really want or need honest feedback. As a filmmaker,
|by Anonymous||reply 293||November 25, 2022 3:31 PM|
[quote]Was Patti LUPone in some sort of trance? What would make her think that Stephen Sondheim would want to know why she hated the Sweeney Todd movie?
Not "in a trance," but as is SO OFTEN the case, she made it ALL ABOUT HER (or largely about her), because I'll bet much of her criticism had to do with HBC's singing as Mrs. Lovett. Time has proven that Patti can be very nice and supportive of a project when she doesn't feel threatened in any way, and when there is no comparison to her own work and no possibility of a role for her in the new project. But when there is.....
[quote]Rosie O’Donnell tells a similar story about how Marc Shaiman got furious with her when she similarly critiqued the Hairspray movie.
I remember that, when the awful CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY was running on Broadway, Shaiman posted some very delusional comments about it on Facebook and also went off on anyone who criticized it. He really does not seem to have enough self awareness to know when he was written something great or something.....not great. On that note, though I've been reading nothing but raves for SOME LIKE IT HOT, someone did point out on social media that the title song bears a VERY close resemblance to the theme song for the old TV cartoon series HUCKLEBERRY HOUND. Search for them both on YouTube and I think you will agree.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||November 25, 2022 3:44 PM|
[quote]someone did point out on social media that the title song bears a VERY close resemblance to the theme song for the old TV cartoon series HUCKLEBERRY HOUND.
I'm not seeing a problem here.
Signed, Andrew Lloyd Webber, "Music of the Night sounds nothing like Come To Me, Bend To Me from Brigadoon"
|by Anonymous||reply 295||November 25, 2022 3:55 PM|
[quote]Why wasn't there ever a NY production of The Mousetrap before now? Not sure this will be a hit, but maybe Christie's name will still sell it?
How long until we get "The Mousetrap--The Musical"?
|by Anonymous||reply 296||November 25, 2022 3:56 PM|
So "Parade" wasn't featured in the parade? I expect a full investigation -- by Parade Magazine.
|by Anonymous||reply 297||November 25, 2022 3:57 PM|
R289, thanks for that link you provided, which actually lists TWO Off-Broadway productions of THE MOUSETRAP. Both of them had very short runs, but they do give the lie to the press release for the upcoming Broadway production, which states that the play has never before been performed in New York.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||November 25, 2022 3:59 PM|
r297 = Ben Platt, a real Jew playing a Jew, not a half Jewess playing a full Jewess.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||November 25, 2022 3:59 PM|
Speaking of Platt, I know he doesn't have a lot of fans around here, but kudos to him and Galvin. Beanie for best (wo)man?
|by Anonymous||reply 300||November 25, 2022 4:02 PM|
[quote]but they do give the lie to the press release for the upcoming Broadway production
Is "never performed in NY" what the real press release says or is it just BroadwayWorld allowing their interns to write whatever without any research?
|by Anonymous||reply 301||November 25, 2022 4:03 PM|
r261 those who would have sung the reprises most likely would have been singing to each other and to other townsfolk not to the camera.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||November 25, 2022 4:05 PM|
r301 The official site says "comes to Broadway for the very first time" so seems you're right
|by Anonymous||reply 303||November 25, 2022 4:06 PM|
R301, it seems to me that the "articles" on that site and some others are mere reprints of the press releases, sometimes with some minor rewording.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||November 25, 2022 4:06 PM|
r301, it looks like others are repeating that, so it's either coming from the production or no one's doing the research (or both). Here's the BBC:
[quote]The show has been staged in the US before, but never in New York.
Which we now know isn't true.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||November 25, 2022 4:07 PM|
Straight from the press release: "The legendary show – which has never been performed previously in New York – will open in 2023."
|by Anonymous||reply 306||November 25, 2022 4:08 PM|
Some Like It Hot performance from the Thanksgiving Day Parade
|by Anonymous||reply 307||November 25, 2022 4:10 PM|
Interesting to see who's just parroting the press release and who fact checked.
Deadline: "The play, a West End institution and popular tourist destination since 1952, has been performed in the U.S. before but never on Broadway or in New York."
The Guardian: "But her most famous play, which starred the married actors Richard Attenborough and Sheila Sim when it opened in 1952, never made it to New York."
But Playbill limits the comment to Broadway, and appears to have done some research since it has more interesting info:
[quote]Since its premiere in London in 1952, the play has been performed regionally in America but never on Broadway. Christie and the show's original producer Peter Saunders did not want the show to go to Broadway, according to her grandson Mathew Prichard, who told The Times, "Those reasons are now long lost." Prichard has approved the play's transfer to Broadway.
Does this qualify as shade:
[quote]“There can be no better way to mark today’s milestone in The Mousetrap’s illustrious run, than to look ahead to a production in New York," said Spiegel in a statement. "I feel after the longest out of town try-out in history, The Mousetrap is finally ready to transfer to Broadway!” Spiegel's only Broadway credit is the 1998 musical Fame.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||November 25, 2022 4:14 PM|
r306 Where's the link to the press release where it says that? Because Google shows only the BWW article says it
|by Anonymous||reply 309||November 25, 2022 4:15 PM|
MOUSETRAP may have been staged by hundreds of community theaters or student productions in the US, but I've never seen it. Nor have I seen it in numerous trips to London. But I still have no interest in this new venture.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||November 25, 2022 4:16 PM|
[quote]Dolls, I'm reactivating my MySpace and getting off this electric dumpster fire. You can find all future updates from me and what I'm up to on my Instagram and Facebook pages @PattiLuPone, while I patiently wait for my OnlyFans to get verified.
Patti LuPone making an OnlyFans joke is not something I ever expected. At least, dear god, I hope it's a joke
|by Anonymous||reply 311||November 25, 2022 4:20 PM|
Here, 309. Are you satisfied now, or are you still going to continue to dispute this?
|by Anonymous||reply 312||November 25, 2022 4:20 PM|
r312 Christ, you're a bit touchy aren't you? Hardly a surprise you're an ATC user
|by Anonymous||reply 313||November 25, 2022 4:22 PM|
Ben Platt managed to take a pic where he looks vaguely normal for once. Also, Allison Janney's tits
|by Anonymous||reply 314||November 25, 2022 4:25 PM|
Not an ATC user, R313, but unlike you, I know where to go to look for verbatim posts of press releases. Have a nice day.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||November 25, 2022 4:26 PM|
Allison Janney looks like a drag queen version of Kim Cattrall.
|by Anonymous||reply 316||November 25, 2022 4:44 PM|
[quote] Patti LuPone making an OnlyFans joke is not something I ever expected. At least, dear god, I hope it's a joke
She was willing to show her funbags in a Spike Lee movie. Anything is possible with her. Maybe she thinks she can make money in granny porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||November 25, 2022 4:46 PM|
r307, I thought the first half of the performance was fine, but the tap-dancing in the second became pretty boring and went on too long. I'm not sure it sold many tickets (there's a lot of availability for this weekend).
|by Anonymous||reply 318||November 25, 2022 4:54 PM|
I suspect there is very little "fun" in them bags at this point r317.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||November 25, 2022 4:55 PM|
SLIH is good, not great. Some fun performances and Nicholaw's work has its usual admirable Broadway polish. The film still feels like an unnecessary idea for a musical (Yes, I saw Sugar) even with the new spin. This is the Shaiman of "Charlie," not "Hairspray," so expect another massive online meltdown when someone writes the truth. I felt for them because the effort and talent onstage is real, but it just didn't add up.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||November 25, 2022 4:55 PM|
Is it still backwards?
|by Anonymous||reply 321||November 25, 2022 4:56 PM|
R298, there weren't two productions. The show moved from the 42nd Street theatre to the 13th Street theatre. Same production.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||November 25, 2022 4:57 PM|
Patti's son types her tweets, doesn't he.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||November 25, 2022 5:10 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 324||November 25, 2022 5:14 PM|
[quote] Interesting to see who's just parroting the press release and who fact checked.
Is it, though?
|by Anonymous||reply 325||November 25, 2022 5:17 PM|
R325, it was to me, which is why I stated it as such. Whether it was to you is your business.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||November 25, 2022 5:21 PM|
Hugh's back today.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||November 25, 2022 5:23 PM|
What does John Palermo do these days?
|by Anonymous||reply 328||November 25, 2022 5:28 PM|
Ben & Noah are the biggest meskites who ever lived.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||November 25, 2022 5:31 PM|
Christian Borle better get used to the idea he will be relatively ignored in all the reviews of and articles about SLIH. He's a white guy with a modicum of talent, and critics will want to praise Ghee and Del Aguila to the skies and overpraise all the women. Borle stopped being interesting about 15 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 330||November 25, 2022 5:32 PM|
There's a lid for every pot, r329.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||November 25, 2022 5:35 PM|
R330 And Borle would give a fuck why, exactly? He has two Tonys already and never has problems booking gigs.
I doubt he took the role for the acclaim.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||November 25, 2022 5:40 PM|
Why was Hugh out of his show? COVID? Injury?
|by Anonymous||reply 333||November 25, 2022 5:48 PM|
So Evan Hansen is marrying Evan Hansen?
There will be notes to the maid about the temperature of the water for washing the sheets.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||November 25, 2022 5:50 PM|
Isn't Borle re-writing the book? He's doing just fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||November 25, 2022 5:57 PM|
Noah Gavlin looks like a toy but not a hideous toy.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||November 25, 2022 5:57 PM|
Long ago it was said that the original West End agreement was that The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?
|by Anonymous||reply 337||November 25, 2022 6:00 PM|
I'm wondering who they think is the audience for The Mousetrap on Broadway? There aren't enough tourists, and unless they get Meryl Streep to do it, no self respecting New Yorker will go near it.
|by Anonymous||reply 338||November 25, 2022 6:12 PM|
There aren't enough tourists? Who's keeping CHICAGO going?
|by Anonymous||reply 339||November 25, 2022 6:23 PM|
R333, his doctor put him on vocal rest. Happened after Saturday's matinee.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||November 25, 2022 6:24 PM|
I think the success of the Knives Out movies has emboldened producers to take this Mousetrap shot now. If it's a limited engagement, hopefully they can get some names and not just try selling it on the show's history.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||November 25, 2022 6:24 PM|
Thank you, R340.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||November 25, 2022 6:28 PM|
They will NEVER get big names to do The Mousetrap on Broadway. In spite of its longevity in London, it's one of Christie's weaker efforts and word of mouth here will be awful. Also, the London physical production is cheap and unimaginative and if they expect to transfer and sell this as London's long-running production, it will be very disappointing. Also, who will direct? The original director (and designers) is long dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||November 25, 2022 6:30 PM|
I assume Borle is actually in that title number for SLIIH? I know it was discussed upthread but now that I've seen the parade clip, it seems so odd that he's not there with them. I wonder if they want his drag look to be more of a surprise? Are there photos out there of him in drag?
And the number was nice but no great shakes.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||November 25, 2022 6:32 PM|
No, he's not in that number in the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||November 25, 2022 6:39 PM|
Was he ejected from it, like Dolores Gray in Destry's whip number?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||November 25, 2022 6:41 PM|
[quote] The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?
Probably the bank account of Agatha's estate beneficiaries.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||November 25, 2022 6:51 PM|
[quote]Long ago it was said that the original West End agreement was that The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?
Is it really so difficult to figure that out?
|by Anonymous||reply 348||November 25, 2022 6:55 PM|
Some Like It Hot is supposed to be a hit? Gurl. That number on the parade would argue otherwise. And if you’re showing up to a TV audience of millions without a number for your major bankable stars, you’ve got a problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||November 25, 2022 6:58 PM|
[quote]They will NEVER get big names to do The Mousetrap on Broadway. In spite of its longevity in London, it's one of Christie's weaker efforts and word of mouth here will be awful.
You seem awfully sure of yourself. On what basis?
[quote]Also, the London physical production is cheap and unimaginative and if they expect to transfer and sell this as London's long-running production, it will be very disappointing.
You sure are doing a lot of guessing and assuming as to how this production will be approached.
[quote]Also, who will direct? The original director (and designers) is long dead.
As if every subsequent production of a show in history has been directed and designed by the original people. What a ridiculous comment. Do you really think you have any idea what you're talking about?
|by Anonymous||reply 350||November 25, 2022 6:59 PM|
R209 do you really think Christian Borle masturbates?
|by Anonymous||reply 351||November 25, 2022 7:10 PM|
I know Agatha stipulated The Mousetrap cannot be filmed until it has closed in London, but not the same stipulation for a NY production. Anyhoo, it is the hot Grandson who has granted permission for the production to go ahead.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||November 25, 2022 7:13 PM|
r349, who are the major, bankable stars in Some Like It Hot? I'm pretty sure Borle is not one.
|by Anonymous||reply 353||November 25, 2022 7:14 PM|
One thing is for sure- The production of The Mousetrap had zero to do with the horrible movie that just featured it, See How They Run. Christ, what a piece of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||November 25, 2022 7:15 PM|
Needs more Elaine Joyce.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||November 25, 2022 7:15 PM|
r350, I'm simply going by the Official Press Release, in which London Lead Producer Adam Spiegel clearly states: "I feel after the longest out of town try out in history, The Mousetrap is finally ready to transfer to Broadway."
Which indicates that the intention is to bring to Broadway a reproduction of the current production that's been running for 70 years in London to Broadway. There's NO mention of a new director, new set designs, new costume and lighting design, a new concept. The selling point, such as it is, is to show Broadway audiences what all the fuss has been about.
Of course, things could change once saner minds have reconsidered, but how else can the announcement be interpreted? But yes, I could be wrong, they may get some names to initially star in it, but I seriously doubt they'll be true ticket-selling names.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||November 25, 2022 7:26 PM|
I'll just say it - I never warmed to LuPone's performances as Mrs. Lovett in Sweeney Todd. She, of course, has a better voice than Bonham Carter, but she was about equally as humorless and dull in the role.
Angela Lansbury said some positive things about Depp's performance in the film, but she wisely kept her mouth shut about Bonham Carter. She knew her legacy wasn't in any danger.
|by Anonymous||reply 357||November 25, 2022 7:28 PM|
[quote]How long until we get "The Mousetrap--The Musical"?
I'm working on it!
|by Anonymous||reply 358||November 25, 2022 7:35 PM|
[quote]The Mousetrap couldn't open on Broadway while it was still running on the West End. 70 years later it's still running. What changed?
The fact that it's still running 70 years later.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||November 25, 2022 7:38 PM|
No Lea in FG today. Benko was scheduled to do the matinee anyway but Lea is sick and will be out tonite. Tovah is also out for both shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||November 25, 2022 8:12 PM|
Who goes on for Tovah?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||November 25, 2022 8:13 PM|
I assumed that’s why he was hired R353. Isn’t he one of those Broadway actors that brings in the locals? I honestly don’t give a shit, I think he’s barely mid on stage and his face is made for radio. The weird obsession with him here is… whatever.
|by Anonymous||reply 362||November 25, 2022 8:14 PM|
Nah, he's hired for reviews and possible Tony nom/win, not because he makes a difference to the box office based on his name.
|by Anonymous||reply 363||November 25, 2022 8:16 PM|
Taking the day after Thanksgiving off is shitty.
|by Anonymous||reply 364||November 25, 2022 8:35 PM|
[quote]Angela Lansbury said some positive things about Depp's performance in the film, but she wisely kept her mouth shut about Bonham Carter. She knew her legacy wasn't in any danger.
Not true, she did comment on HBC's performance, but not surprisingly, Lansbury was very diplomatic about it. Apparently having read or seen interviews in which HBC said that she originally planned to play Lovett with a lot more comedy in her performance until Burton put a stop to that idea, Lansbury said in effect that she was very sorry HBC wasn't allowed to bring to the role all of the comedy that she could have brought to it. She did not, however, comment on her singing, as far as I know.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||November 25, 2022 9:44 PM|
R362, the "weird obsession" with Christian Borle on DL is probably based on the fact that many people consider him a brilliant comic actor -- including Kevin Kline, who has been quoted as having said so.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||November 25, 2022 9:46 PM|
Kevin Kline also said Phoebe Cates was talented.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||November 25, 2022 10:00 PM|
Doesn't Borle have an enormous cock>
|by Anonymous||reply 368||November 25, 2022 10:04 PM|
To this day, still the best play I've ever seen on any stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 369||November 25, 2022 10:05 PM|
R369 I watch it every Christmas, it is amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||November 25, 2022 10:08 PM|
That Nickolas Nickleby was amazing! As was The Grapes of Wrath. Two of my favorites brought beautifully to the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||November 25, 2022 10:11 PM|
Would it kill someone to remaster the Nickelby DVDs?
|by Anonymous||reply 372||November 25, 2022 10:18 PM|
There's also a currently running London production of Christie's Witness for the Prosecution, in an environmental style staging in a real court. It opened in 2017 and paused for the worst of the pandemic. It's back going into what they are calling year six of the run, but adds up to more like year 4 1/2.
Still an impressive tally for a revival of a large cast straight play.
The last Agatha Christie play on Broadway was...the original production of Witness for the Prosecution in 1954-56, which ran a year and a half and won the Featured Actor and Actress Tony Awards.
Why is Broadway so dismissive of Christie's plays, when they are so successful everywhere else in the world and continue to receive major adaptations in other media with big stars in the cast? It takes more than an aggressive set of heirs to make this happen, the public has to want it.
Every regional theatre in America seems to be working its way around to the Ken Ludwig Orient Express from a few years ago, for example, knowing that is sells well. Yet it is probably unlikely to see a Broadway run.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||November 25, 2022 11:11 PM|
Sweeney Todd needs the comedy. Otherwise, it's a slog to sit through. That's why I find the movie really problematic. HBC was right. Tim Burton should have listened to her.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||November 25, 2022 11:15 PM|
Mysteries and Thrillers for the stage have mostly gone the way of the dodo bird, DEATHTRAP being the last successful one on Broadway. I personally have a fondness for them and will certainly see The Mousetrap. I think a slightly tongue in cheek Christie production could be fun and maybe even successful as Knives Out has shown. A few past-their-prime stars a la Murder She Wrote in the cast could be fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||November 25, 2022 11:18 PM|
The Mousetrap is still backwards.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||November 26, 2022 2:58 AM|
[quote]hopefully they can get some names
|by Anonymous||reply 377||November 26, 2022 3:35 AM|
[quote]Every regional theatre in America seems to be working its way around to the Ken Ludwig Orient Express from a few years ago, for example, knowing that is sells well. Yet it is probably unlikely to see a Broadway run.
Please don't muddy the issue. The names Agatha Christie and Ken Ludwig should never be mentioned in the same breath, even if that asshole did secure the rights to do a stage adaptation of MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||November 26, 2022 3:37 AM|
Christian Borle's cock isn't as big as mine.
|by Anonymous||reply 379||November 26, 2022 3:56 AM|
If we could have the same cast from the 1980s today, would David Threlfall, who played Smike, be cast, or would a differently abled actor be cast?
|by Anonymous||reply 380||November 26, 2022 4:03 AM|
R380 And where did Timothy Spall go? And Ben Kingsley?
|by Anonymous||reply 381||November 26, 2022 4:09 AM|
A Hallmark Channel Christmas movie premiering Sunday, titled "A Holiday Spectacular," centers around the Rockettes. The cast includes, in supporting roles, DL faves Ann-Margret and Eve Plumb.
|by Anonymous||reply 382||November 26, 2022 8:24 AM|
r382, for a second there I thought you were saying "A Hallmark Channel Christmas movie premiering Sunday, titled "A Holiday Spectacular,"" was where Timothy Spall and Ben Kingsley had gone.
I'd like to see that movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||November 26, 2022 8:39 AM|
[Quote] And Ben Kingsley?
That's Sir King Bensley to you!
|by Anonymous||reply 384||November 26, 2022 12:28 PM|
Roger Bart: Prove it.
|by Anonymous||reply 385||November 26, 2022 12:42 PM|
What happened then well that's the mooovie and he wouldn't want us to give it away.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||November 26, 2022 12:52 PM|
did Sutton have both?
|by Anonymous||reply 387||November 26, 2022 1:07 PM|
Yes, and Bobby Canavale's!
|by Anonymous||reply 388||November 26, 2022 1:21 PM|
Mrs. Sally Adams meets Mrs. Sally Adams.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||November 26, 2022 1:48 PM|
In the Broadway import of Nicholas Nickleby, there were a lot of "stars to be."
Roger Reese, David Threlfall, Alun Armstrong, Ian McNeice (the fat guy on Doc Martin), Jeffrey Dench (Judi's brother), Rose Hill ('Allo, 'Allo), Mark Tandy (Cecil Beaton in The Crown)
|by Anonymous||reply 390||November 26, 2022 2:32 PM|
Sutton is a size queen?
|by Anonymous||reply 391||November 26, 2022 2:34 PM|
[quote] Roger Reese
|by Anonymous||reply 392||November 26, 2022 2:35 PM|
[quote]What happened then well that's the mooovie and he wouldn't want us to give it away.
That could have easily been changed. One possibility: "What happened then? We cannot say, 'cause 'e wouldn't want us to give it away."
|by Anonymous||reply 393||November 26, 2022 2:38 PM|
So some fangirl posted on Facebook that she thought it would be a fitting tribute to Sondheim to have the music for the title phrase of the song "Company" tattooed on BOTH of her inner arms in LARGE format. So she did it, and posted the pix. Mind-boggling.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||November 26, 2022 3:12 PM|
Was it Patti?
|by Anonymous||reply 395||November 26, 2022 3:22 PM|
Ha! Nope. It wasn't Betty Buckley, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||November 26, 2022 3:24 PM|
It was Kim Criswell!
|by Anonymous||reply 397||November 26, 2022 4:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 398||November 26, 2022 5:06 PM|
Open up the Broadway Theatre for a limited run of The Hours". Considering how difficult it is to get a ticket at the Met, A savvy producer could clean up. And Joyce DiDonato would be assured a Tony.
|by Anonymous||reply 399||November 26, 2022 5:14 PM|
No one is interested in opera. They want to see the Neil Diamond musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||November 26, 2022 5:22 PM|
Fleming and DiDonato would not do anywhere near eight shows a week.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||November 26, 2022 5:35 PM|
Presumably, R399 was joking about a Broadway run of THE HOURS. At least, I hope so.
|by Anonymous||reply 402||November 26, 2022 5:40 PM|
Has anyone seen THE HOURS? Thoughts?
I'm not a regular opera-goer, but I liked the book, the movie, and those 3 ladies.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||November 26, 2022 5:45 PM|
I hate all of Ken Ludwig's scripts.....
|by Anonymous||reply 404||November 26, 2022 5:54 PM|
Lea out this afternoon. Back tonite. The tourists who are in town for the holiday and bought tix will not be happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||November 26, 2022 6:14 PM|
Looking at photos of THE HOURS, I find it very hard to get a sense of it. I realize it takes place in 3 different time periods but there doesn't seem to any overall aesthetic visually. Each photo looks like it's from a different opera and much of it doesn't look pertinent to any particular time period (except for Kelli's 1950s dress).
Sorry not to provide a link but it's easily googleable.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||November 26, 2022 6:14 PM|
Hard to believe the film version is 20 years old. Kidman really surprised me in this at the time--she's terrific.
I still listen to the Philip Glass soundtrack once in a blue moon.
|by Anonymous||reply 407||November 26, 2022 6:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 408||November 26, 2022 6:17 PM|
Came home after seeing the opera last night, and watched the movie again. The opera of The Hours takes its cues from the book instead of the film. The movie has several bad choices, the biggest of which is Julianne Moore's wedding photo.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||November 26, 2022 6:20 PM|
Do the opera singers hold back to aid Kelli?
|by Anonymous||reply 410||November 26, 2022 6:20 PM|
Kelli outsings Renee, but DiDonato outsings them all.
|by Anonymous||reply 411||November 26, 2022 6:29 PM|
"There's also a currently running London production of Christie's Witness for the Prosecution, in an environmental style staging in a real court. It opened in 2017 and paused for the worst of the pandemic. It's back going into what they are calling year six of the run, but adds up to more like year 4 1/2."
I saw this show and it's an excellent production - the story is a tad creaky but the acting and direction were really sharp and the location really works. Not really sure about the current appetite in NY for Agatha Christie though, especially on Broadway. I'm curious if they will relax some of the estate rules for The Mousetrap. In London, the estate doesn't allow people of color to perform certain parts, such as police officers, judges, etc. because it's not "accurate." Pretty silly.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||November 26, 2022 6:44 PM|
Thank you r408. I would certainly rather see that than the Neil Diamond musical.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||November 26, 2022 6:45 PM|
Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer, but she can only do a few minutes of those hours, those high notes are exhausting and a girl needs her rest!
|by Anonymous||reply 414||November 26, 2022 7:26 PM|
[quote]Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer
Please, I got that covered! I will not get away from Broadway without a Tony!
|by Anonymous||reply 415||November 26, 2022 7:36 PM|
R415! Hilarious! Thank you. And it’s funny, because it’s true. Maybe in 30 years Lea and Beanie can do a limited run of LEGENDS?
|by Anonymous||reply 416||November 26, 2022 7:53 PM|
[Quote] Beanie can do THE HOURS if they do a Broadway transfer, but she can only do a few minutes of those hours, those high notes are exhausting and a girl needs her rest!
Oh, for fucks sake, give it a rest. Just saying “beanie” wasn’t funny. 40 threads ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 417||November 26, 2022 8:19 PM|
R417 Fuck off, Ben.
|by Anonymous||reply 418||November 26, 2022 8:48 PM|
The score of The Hours is far too heavy for Kelli who has no sense of legato at all, sings note to note, and struggles to be heard most of the night. She was fine as Despina in Cosi a few years ago, but she’s not an opera singer and her voice just doesn’t work in the house. It’s really as simple as that. Gelb has desperately wanted to integrate Broadway people into the house his entire tenure, and he’s using Kelli to fulfill whatever dream he had there. It’s an anomaly that won’t continue beyond her. Broadway singers don’t have the size of sound, the color, the legato, the squillo , the technical prowess or the language skills to sing in major opera houses. As far as the rest of the show, Renee should have stayed retired, Joyce is okay, but the top is thin and sharp as usual. The show itself is a bore, the staging a yawn and while it may have a brief remounting a season from now, it will never be seen in NY again like all new operas produced at the Met.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||November 26, 2022 8:50 PM|
Hw dare you, r419?
Bart Sher loves my squillo.
|by Anonymous||reply 420||November 26, 2022 9:00 PM|
I would love to beat the shit out of r419 after school
|by Anonymous||reply 421||November 26, 2022 9:39 PM|
I dated an opera composer for several years. Thank you, r419, for reminding me why I have no regrets.
|by Anonymous||reply 422||November 26, 2022 10:53 PM|
Marry me, 422
|by Anonymous||reply 423||November 27, 2022 12:26 AM|
Beanie as Sally, Lea as Phyllis
Beanie's fangurls will attend Tuesday, Friday and Saturday matinees
Lea's fangurls will attend Wednesday matinee, Thursday and Saturday evening
|by Anonymous||reply 424||November 27, 2022 1:51 AM|
Julie Benko for Hattie!
|by Anonymous||reply 425||November 27, 2022 1:57 AM|
The only problem I see with all the Beanie jokes is that they are never even remotely funny or clever. R424, for instance.
|by Anonymous||reply 426||November 27, 2022 2:31 AM|
Maybe they are not jokes ?
|by Anonymous||reply 427||November 27, 2022 2:55 AM|
[quote]The only problem I see with all the Beanie jokes is that they are never even remotely funny or clever. [R424], for instance.
Scuse me, Dorothy Parker. I don't remember agreeing that my posts were required to be funny or clever. All that is required of me is pointless bitchery!
|by Anonymous||reply 428||November 27, 2022 3:05 AM|
[quote]“The matter between myself and TDF has been resolved and both parties are satisfied with the discussions that ensued,” Wann wrote in a social media post announcing the settlement.
White interpreter for the deaf has settled his discrimination lawsuit.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||November 27, 2022 3:14 AM|
Y’all joke, but a future FOLLIES revival starring Lea, Beanie, Groff and Platt is almost written in the stars at this point.
|by Anonymous||reply 430||November 27, 2022 4:48 AM|
Lea and Beanie are both Sallys.
|by Anonymous||reply 431||November 27, 2022 5:11 AM|
Saw that Sondheim is trending on Twitter. I'd forgotten yesterday was the anniversary of his death. Moment of silence at ITW.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||November 27, 2022 6:30 AM|
Groff and Platt are both Buddys.
|by Anonymous||reply 433||November 27, 2022 6:40 AM|
[quote]All that is required of me is pointless bitchery!
You've definitely mastered the pointless part.
However, your bitchery could use a lot of work.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||November 27, 2022 8:17 AM|
[quote]Y’all joke, but a future FOLLIES revival starring Lea, Beanie, Groff and Platt is almost written in the stars at this point.
What could go wrong? Beane will be just dying to work with the woman who rescued the show that Beanie nearly destroyed singlehandedly.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||November 27, 2022 8:27 AM|
A moment of silence? He didn't die in a war.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||November 27, 2022 9:15 AM|
Dying in a war has never been a requirement for a moment of silence.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||November 27, 2022 9:30 AM|
No shit, R437, but a moment of silence at a Broadway show for the dead composter, who died at nearly 100, is overdramatic as hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||November 27, 2022 9:39 AM|
No, it's really not, r438. It's a simple gesture of respect for someone who has died, regardless of age or how it happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 439||November 27, 2022 9:46 AM|
Oh R421, you were the pansy who got the shit beaten out of you at school every day. At 5’5” and 440 pounds, the only thing you’re doing today is fusing yourself to your couch, you clown.
|by Anonymous||reply 440||November 27, 2022 12:03 PM|
R438. “Composter”? I didn’t know SS was an environmentalist!
|by Anonymous||reply 441||November 27, 2022 12:42 PM|
@ r440. Read the room motherfucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||November 27, 2022 12:55 PM|
It’s been read cunt. You’re getting ratioed. Bye.
|by Anonymous||reply 443||November 27, 2022 12:58 PM|
Not eve close r440. I had a pretty great day actually, including getting my squillo sucked and topping my hot bf with a real sense of the size of my legato.
|by Anonymous||reply 444||November 27, 2022 1:25 PM|
R435 Singlehandedly ? Have you SEEN the staging?
|by Anonymous||reply 445||November 27, 2022 1:55 PM|
Stephen Sondheim, taken from us 1,000 years too soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||November 27, 2022 2:16 PM|
Platt gets hired for Follies because a big star dropped out just before rehearsals were set to start. After a series of embarrassing public incidents (one after he walked out of his first rehab), no one is expecting much and his hiring is regarded as a joke.
Unexpectedly he triumphs. His Buddy makes self-loathing visceral and for the first time ever in a production of Follies, one of the husbands shines as much as (or more than) the ladies. He does a few film roles before playing the grandfather in a family drama that runs six seasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 447||November 27, 2022 2:21 PM|
[quote]That's Sir King Bensley to you!
Or just Sir Kingsley.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||November 27, 2022 2:46 PM|
Beanie as the new parking lot!
|by Anonymous||reply 449||November 27, 2022 2:48 PM|
R447, if that’s the future asteroid do your thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||November 27, 2022 2:49 PM|
[quote] Have you SEEN the staging?
Gotta hate how Mayer is enjoying the season's smash, and that Neil Fucking Diamond is doing well too.
|by Anonymous||reply 451||November 27, 2022 3:01 PM|
[quote] Stephen Sondheim, taken from us 1,000 years too soon.
don't be a dick r446. Wouldn't you like to know that folks here on DL might be having a moment of silence for you on the first anniversary of your death?
|by Anonymous||reply 452||November 27, 2022 3:02 PM|
I'll drink to that!
|by Anonymous||reply 453||November 27, 2022 3:05 PM|
And one for... LINE!
|by Anonymous||reply 454||November 27, 2022 3:09 PM|
I want an NBC live presentation of Evita with Lea Michele in the title role, Ben Platt as Che, Jonathan Groff as Magaldi and Beanie as Arminda, Eva’s fat and unattractive sister Erminda.
|by Anonymous||reply 455||November 27, 2022 3:44 PM|
Someone bring Suzanne Somers' Broadway show back to the Great White Way - just so the Beanie obsessives have someone more inept to drive their little comments.
|by Anonymous||reply 456||November 27, 2022 3:47 PM|
Lea as Evita, Groff as Peron, Platt as Che. Magaldi is kind of a nothing role after "Buenos Aires."
|by Anonymous||reply 457||November 27, 2022 3:52 PM|
John Lloyd Young as Magaldi. Theo Stockman as Ensemble.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||November 27, 2022 3:55 PM|
[quote]Evita with Lea Michele in the title role
I'm not having her steal my line readings like she does with Streisand.
|by Anonymous||reply 459||November 27, 2022 3:56 PM|
Did Patti see SPRING AWAKENING? And did she have notes?
|by Anonymous||reply 460||November 27, 2022 3:58 PM|
I saw Patti's notes for SPRING AWAKENING: "It's still backwards."
|by Anonymous||reply 461||November 27, 2022 5:50 PM|
More on the happy couple, including engagement photos.
|by Anonymous||reply 462||November 27, 2022 5:53 PM|
[quote]More on the happy couple, including engagement photos.
What are their pronouns? Is Noah going to be the wife in the relationship?
|by Anonymous||reply 463||November 27, 2022 6:12 PM|
Sweet, very personal tribute to Sondheim on the anniversary of his death.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||November 27, 2022 6:16 PM|
Just when you thought that the Kimberly Akimbo ad campaign couldn’t get any worse, they commission a poorly drawn picture of Kimberly and the teens in a roller coaster. And for some unknown reason, they give Victoria Clark gray hair in the drawing!
|by Anonymous||reply 465||November 27, 2022 6:28 PM|
[quote]His Buddy makes self-loathing visceral
Complete with tics!
|by Anonymous||reply 466||November 27, 2022 6:32 PM|
Any trannies in Kimberly?
|by Anonymous||reply 467||November 27, 2022 6:32 PM|
Well, there's this one.
You'll leave humming the hourglass timer!
|by Anonymous||reply 468||November 27, 2022 6:33 PM|
Someone should adapt "The Hard Way" for the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 469||November 27, 2022 6:37 PM|
R429 liberals are such racists.
|by Anonymous||reply 470||November 27, 2022 6:40 PM|
I feel bad for Victoria Clark
She got shit on by Nathan Lane I’m Guys and Dolls
She got shit on during How to Succeed
She got shit on during Sister Act
She got shit on during Cinderella
She got shit on by Sondheim during the Encores Follies
|by Anonymous||reply 471||November 27, 2022 7:12 PM|
What did Sondheim do to her?
|by Anonymous||reply 472||November 27, 2022 7:18 PM|
Lin-Manuel and Andrew Garfield were spotted together at Merrily We Roll Along last night.
Brad Goreski and Brandon Flynn were also in the audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 473||November 27, 2022 7:26 PM|
R471. When someone gets shit on that much you have to wonder if they might be the problem.
|by Anonymous||reply 474||November 27, 2022 7:26 PM|
R474 Are they still dating?
|by Anonymous||reply 475||November 27, 2022 7:29 PM|
[quote]What did Sondheim do to her?
He hit her in the head with a fondue pot, r472.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||November 27, 2022 7:30 PM|
[quote]I feel bad for Victoria Clark
At least she made it into a lifeboat and survived the sinking of the Titanic.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||November 27, 2022 7:33 PM|
Thanks, R476, that's what I thought.
|by Anonymous||reply 478||November 27, 2022 7:47 PM|
Wasn't there also something about Bart Sher promising her Nellie in South Pacific only to see it given to her stage daughter instead?
|by Anonymous||reply 479||November 27, 2022 8:35 PM|
Eldergay theatre queens, do you all remember lovely Peter Frechette, who seemed to appear constantly on Broadway and 0ff-Broadway stages of the 1980s and 1990s? I've recently become a FB friend and he often posts photos of his early NY appearances and I'm just bowled over by all the great stage work he did, much of it in new plays.
Of course, others may also remember Peter from the ensemble cast of Grease 2 and as David Marshall Grant's post-coital bedmate in 30Something.
It seems he went to LA to co-star in a TV series over 20 years ago, I think it was called The Profiler, and I don't think he's trod the NY boards since then, which is a shame. I'm not sure if he's still acting much or if he's still in LA.
Any other fans of Peter?
|by Anonymous||reply 480||November 27, 2022 8:47 PM|
Peter Frechette gave a lovely Tony nominated performance in Eastern Standard. He was wonderful. I was watching First Wives Club the other day and he played a ‘blink and you’ll miss him’ role as a director. I wish I had seen him when he went on for Matthew Broderick in The Odd Couple because Felix seems like a great fit for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||November 27, 2022 8:50 PM|
LMM posted screenshots of emails with Sondheim over the casting of TTB. Seems Steve had never heard of Bradley Whitford. Funny, you'd think he'd be a West Wing type.
|by Anonymous||reply 482||November 27, 2022 8:56 PM|
Sara Porkalub has said she will appear in "The Hours," but only for 45 minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 483||November 27, 2022 8:58 PM|
Sondheim did not watch television, except for old movies on TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 484||November 27, 2022 9:00 PM|
I don't imagine Sondheim watching network series TV at all. Maybe, had he been a little younger, he would have gotten into the some of the more provocative streaming stuff like White Lotus.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||November 27, 2022 9:01 PM|
[r472] she said during her interview for the book of “Nothing Like a Dame” that he would come back stage after he show and tell her that she wasn’t doing “Losing my Mind” correctly until the final performance, when he finally told her she did it correctly. She later mentioned she has no idea what changed in her performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 486||November 27, 2022 9:04 PM|
I've got no proof, but it would delight me if Sondheim was secret a fan of, say, Who's the Boss?
|by Anonymous||reply 487||November 27, 2022 9:08 PM|
I think Danny Pinatauro sang "Send in the Clowns" in the school talent show episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 488||November 27, 2022 9:14 PM|
Noah G.'s much hairier than I would have thought. But not at hairy as the Sherwood Forest on Ben's torso.
Any update on who's fucking Noah in those linked vids?
|by Anonymous||reply 489||November 27, 2022 9:14 PM|
[quote] I think Danny Pinatauro sang "Send in the Clowns" in the school talent show episode.
I think he sang it while exposing his asshole online trolling for cock 15 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 490||November 27, 2022 9:16 PM|
what linked vids?
|by Anonymous||reply 491||November 27, 2022 9:18 PM|
R486, she probably never got it right but Sondheim didn't want to leave her with the feeling that she failed.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||November 27, 2022 9:25 PM|
R491 There are videos of Noah being fucked by a Grindr hookup in the Platt/Galvin engagement thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 493||November 27, 2022 9:27 PM|
[quote]Any update on who's fucking Noah in those linked vids?
[quote]There are videos of Noah being fucked by a Grindr hookup in the Platt/Galvin engagement thread.
And there is your answer.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||November 27, 2022 9:34 PM|
[quote]Wasn't there also something about Bart Sher promising her Nellie in South Pacific only to see it given to her stage daughter instead?
Victoria Clark was way too old to play Nellie at that point.
|by Anonymous||reply 495||November 27, 2022 11:03 PM|
I never saw her performance live and I'm not sure which performance it's sourced from, but the video of Victoria Clark doing "Losing My Mind" at Encores has her doing the first part of the song as seductive torch singer which is a nice change from the weepier versions one usually sees. Was this the one Sondheim finally approved? Her performance from the L.A. production is completely different and more in line with what Bernadette Peters did.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||November 27, 2022 11:07 PM|
R483 Kudos! That's a brilliant line!
|by Anonymous||reply 497||November 27, 2022 11:34 PM|
Elizabeth Vincentelli has a theater review in Saturday’s Times. She is also quoted in the Kimberly akimbo ad for a review attributed to the New Yorker. Who works where and wtf is going on where
|by Anonymous||reply 498||November 27, 2022 11:35 PM|
The next thread should be titled:
THEATRE GOSSIP #504: The "Kelli O'Hara's Beloved Squillo" Edition
|by Anonymous||reply 499||November 27, 2022 11:37 PM|
So sick of Victoria Clark.
|by Anonymous||reply 500||November 27, 2022 11:37 PM|
For a *very* different Losing My Mind, r496, go to 2:07:15...
|by Anonymous||reply 501||November 27, 2022 11:41 PM|
Who can we get to do Miss Marple in the Margaret Rutherford mode if they ever made one of her Christie's Marple movies or novels into a stage property? I love the swinging music that accompanies the credits for her films! Starts at about 15 seconds in if you're in a hurry.
|by Anonymous||reply 502||November 27, 2022 11:42 PM|
[quote] Sara Porkalub has said she will appear in "The Hours," but only for 45 minutes.
[quote] Kudos! That's a brilliant line!
Sadly, this isn't a brilliant line, even if it has the appearance of such. Two reasons why: 1) The timing is off. Porkakob is now a dated reference, even by DL standards. This perhaps would have been "brilliant" two months ago. 2) Porkabob has no relation to "The Hours," so the connection is lacking. The joke is interchangeable. For example, "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in THE PAJAMA GAME, but only for 5 and half cents." or "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in BALLROOM, but only for 50 percent of it."
|by Anonymous||reply 503||November 27, 2022 11:53 PM|
Sarah Porkalob starring in KIMBERLY AKIM
|by Anonymous||reply 504||November 28, 2022 12:02 AM|
R504, perfectly landed.
|by Anonymous||reply 505||November 28, 2022 12:07 AM|
[quote]The joke is interchangeable. For example, "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in THE PAJAMA GAME, but only for 5 and half cents." or "Sara Porkabob has said she will appear in BALLROOM, but only for 50 percent of it."
Actually, I think both of those jokes are quite funny. So sue me.
|by Anonymous||reply 506||November 28, 2022 12:29 AM|
Noah is so out of Ben's league.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||November 28, 2022 12:57 AM|
Nobody is in Ben's league.
|by Anonymous||reply 508||November 28, 2022 12:58 AM|
Nobody is in Ben’s league because no one can reach his level of unattractiveness.
|by Anonymous||reply 509||November 28, 2022 1:00 AM|
Noah looks like a child with a beard.
|by Anonymous||reply 510||November 28, 2022 1:07 AM|
Sara Porkalob in "Love Me or Leave Me" - but she only charges 7.5 cents a dance.
Sara Porkalob couldn't star in "Rent" as her year is only 394,200 minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 511||November 28, 2022 1:19 AM|
When Sara Porkalob plays Madame Armfeldt, the moon only smiles twice.
|by Anonymous||reply 512||November 28, 2022 1:22 AM|
Sara Porkalob only knows 37.5 ways to leave her lover.
|by Anonymous||reply 513||November 28, 2022 1:36 AM|
Will Beanie be Ben’s ‘best person?’
|by Anonymous||reply 514||November 28, 2022 1:44 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 515||November 28, 2022 1:48 AM|
Porkalob in FLOWER DRUM SONG, singing of "Seventy Five Million Miracles."
Porkalob in WONDERFUL TOWN, telling us "75 Easy Ways to Lose a Man."
Should I go on? Probably not......
|by Anonymous||reply 516||November 28, 2022 4:13 AM|
Not really gossip, but I enjoyed reading about how Sondheim and Lansbury's cameos in Glass Onion came to be (that's been widely publicized over the past few months, so hopefully not a spoiler). There are spoilers about other cameos if you don't want them ruined for you, but if not, it's fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 517||November 28, 2022 4:41 AM|
R517 Well, spoiled, but I shall still burst into tears seeing Steve and Angela.
|by Anonymous||reply 518||November 28, 2022 5:21 AM|
The K-POP costumes have been lauded…but they are APPALLING.
|by Anonymous||reply 519||November 28, 2022 5:39 AM|
You’re all just jealous that Noah gets to run his hands through Ben's luxurious shoulder hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 520||November 28, 2022 10:42 AM|
Steve was a entitled unpleasant cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 521||November 28, 2022 1:39 PM|
From the EW article about Sondheim and Lansbury in KNIVES OUT:
[quote]"With Angela Lansbury, she's extraordinary in so many ways in her connection to the genre," Johnson gushes. "She's just a hero. And then Sondheim has a massive connection to the murder-mystery genre. He was a puzzle and mystery nut. He co-wrote, with Anthony Perkins, The Last of Sheila, which our film takes a huge page from in terms of the setup. And a lot of people don't know [it's] the only straight play he ever wrote that wasn't a musical was a whodunit."
In his last sentence, Johnson was not referring to THE LAST OF SHEILA, which of course is not a "straight play." He was referring to the Broadway comedy murder mystery GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER, which was co-written by Sondheim and George Furth. It rans for 31 previews and 17 performances.
[quote]"With Angela Lansbury, she's extraordinary in so many ways in her connection to the genre," Johnson gushes. "She's just a hero. And then Sondheim has a massive connection to the murder-mystery genre. He was a puzzle and mystery nut. He co-wrote, with Anthony Perkins, The Last of Sheila, which our film takes a huge page from in terms of the setup. And a lot of people don't know [it's] the only straight play he ever wrote that wasn't a musical was a whodunit."
And, umm, prior to that, she had starred in Sondheim's ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway, not to mention a revival of GYPSY. And after SWEENEY TODD, she co-starred in a revival of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. And so on.
|by Anonymous||reply 522||November 28, 2022 2:39 PM|
Uggh, sorry. The second quote above was supposed to have been:
[quote]Lansbury is linked to the legendary lyricist and composer as well, having originated the role of Mrs. Lovett in Sondheim's Sweeney Todd. "I'm a musical theater nerd," Johnson confesses. "Sondheim's always been my guy."
Which prompted me to point out that, prior to SWEENEY, Lansbury had starred in Sondheim's ANYONE CAN WHISTLE on Broadway, not to mention a revival of GYPSY. And after SWEENEY TODD, she co-starred in a revival of A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC. And so on.
|by Anonymous||reply 523||November 28, 2022 2:44 PM|
We know her credits, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||November 28, 2022 2:59 PM|
They weren’t giving full biographies, just some interesting relevant conversational references, you insufferable twit r522/r523
|by Anonymous||reply 525||November 28, 2022 3:06 PM|
Mentioning only SWEENEY TODD as a Sondheim/Lansbury connection makes it sound like the author of the article was completely unaware of all the other stuff. She didn't have to give Lansbury's entire Sondheim resume, she could have written something like ".....among several other major projects."
And the author of the article's confusion over THE LAST OF SHEILA and GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER is just sloppy and ignorant.
|by Anonymous||reply 526||November 28, 2022 3:46 PM|
What's the buzz off-Bway?
|by Anonymous||reply 527||November 28, 2022 3:54 PM|
Oh, relax, r526.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||November 28, 2022 4:20 PM|
With apologies for mentioning the dreadful ATC site, does anyone know who "Dale" might be? He made an astonishingly clumsy reference, by name, to a (very) former love interest of Sondheim's in a thread yesterday discussing Sondheim on Sondheim. He basically hijacked the discussion to drop this name--most unseemly for that site.
|by Anonymous||reply 529||November 28, 2022 4:23 PM|
Lin referring to Andrew Garfield as “my leading man”…
Are these two fucking or what?
|by Anonymous||reply 530||November 28, 2022 4:36 PM|
Or he just wants to remind everyone he made a film
|by Anonymous||reply 531||November 28, 2022 5:47 PM|
So, the ever-busy Andrew Lloyd Webber and some producer named Michael Harrison have announced the formation of "a new musical theatre partnership to find and develop new musicals, and create new productions from Andrew Lloyd Webber’s momentous musical catalogue."
Momentous? I guess there are even some Brits who can't use the English language properly, not even in press releases.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||November 28, 2022 8:16 PM|
Michael Riedel delves into the current overcorrection happening on diversity and inclusion mandates. Also goes into the very alienating WSYWAT manifesto and other areas that many are too afraid to speak out against. He might air on the cunty side, but man do I miss his reporting.
"These days it takes a while to get to that table read. After the meet and greet, there’s coronavirus-protocol training and testing. Then there’s sexual-harassment training, as mandated by New York State. And then there’s equity-diversity-and-inclusion training, which can run from four to eight hours. Faced with all this instruction, a writer of Broadway musicals says: “This may sound out of touch, but shouldn’t there be some training on how to rehearse and fix the show?” No kidding!
"With revolution comes excess. A playwright says four theaters have canceled her plays because, as a white female, she doesn’t check the diversity box. Another writer, helping to put together a panel on diversity in the theater, put forth the name of a young Black male writer whose work she admires. She was told that the panel already had two people of color, so what it needed were writers whose genders were fluid. “And then they ticked off genders, poly this and poly that, that I’d never heard of,” she says."
|by Anonymous||reply 533||November 28, 2022 8:16 PM|
Is Lin hiding a double chin underneath that beard? Step away from the churros, papi.
|by Anonymous||reply 534||November 28, 2022 8:16 PM|
"The cost of diversity coaches, intimacy coaches (you can’t have an onstage kiss without an intimacy coach monitoring every quiver of a lip), and diversity-training modules adds up as well. Hit shows such as Hamilton, Wicked, and The Lion King can afford it. But smaller shows—and struggling nonprofit theaters—are feeling the pinch.
“All of these things cost thousands of dollars,” says the head of a small nonprofit. “I had to spend $1,000 to create a ‘healing space.’ We don’t have any money as it is. I’m trying to get shows on, but I’m spending 40 percent of my time on human resources.”
Theaters are paying “diversity dramaturges” to vet scripts to make sure they don’t contain insensitive language or offensive stereotypes, a development that rattles some writers. “You can’t write with the idea that someone is looking over your shoulder,” says a writer who is not white but who is writing about cultures other than his own. “This is impinging on the creative process.”
|by Anonymous||reply 535||November 28, 2022 8:20 PM|
That Riedel article is almost a year old! And still paywalled (I'd like to read it without subscribing).
|by Anonymous||reply 536||November 28, 2022 8:36 PM|
[quote]He might air on the cunty side, but man do I miss his reporting.
|by Anonymous||reply 537||November 28, 2022 8:53 PM|
Can I suggest "Airing On The Cunty Side" as our next TG thread title? I kinda love it.
It's better than Reba, Lea, or Beanie "jokes" at the very least.
|by Anonymous||reply 538||November 28, 2022 9:03 PM|
That Riedel article is interesting, but note that it dates from January 2022.
|by Anonymous||reply 539||November 28, 2022 9:49 PM|
OT this is television but Patti is Broadway
|by Anonymous||reply 540||November 28, 2022 10:03 PM|
Much like last holiday season, Covid seems to be affecting Broadway schedules again. Some Like It Hot cancelled its performance tonight as of 4:30pm.
|by Anonymous||reply 541||November 28, 2022 10:18 PM|
Patti has left Twitter. Good. Everyone should follow.
|by Anonymous||reply 542||November 28, 2022 10:36 PM|
J Harrison Ghee is recovering from a pre existing injury and will return on Thursday. Tonite was cancelled to rehearse the understudy.
|by Anonymous||reply 543||November 28, 2022 11:09 PM|
How does the understudy identify?
|by Anonymous||reply 544||November 29, 2022 12:20 AM|
Some Like It Tranny!
|by Anonymous||reply 545||November 29, 2022 12:24 AM|
I think Rosie left Twitter too, but can't confirm it....
|by Anonymous||reply 546||November 29, 2022 12:28 AM|
FYI: I actually played the lead in “The Mousetrap” at, of all places, Idaho State University, in Pocatello, in the summer of 1972. A thankless role, the lead is the detective who’s arrived at a snowed-in country inn to investigate a murder. He’s constantly calling all the other characters into the single set, a living room. The supporting roles are much more fun, though the text is not particularly funny.
There’s one climactic twist, typical Christie, which is fun. But, overall, I’d say the whole endeavor is really little more than a trifle. Stoppard it ain’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 547||November 29, 2022 1:50 AM|
Rosie did delete her Twitter.
What a mess
|by Anonymous||reply 548||November 29, 2022 2:01 AM|
Ugh, I have TDF tix for SLIH for tomorrow night so now I'm hoping they cancel tomorrow night's performance with the understudy and cancel it early enough for me not to have to schlep into Manhattan in the rain.
Not to mention, now I'm reading so many bad things about SLIH on ATC.
|by Anonymous||reply 549||November 29, 2022 2:33 AM|
[quote]J Harrison Ghee
Has anyone ever described him as "like buttah?"
|by Anonymous||reply 550||November 29, 2022 2:41 AM|
[Quote] paywalled (I'd like to read it without subscribing).
Why do you think you should get to read someone’s writing for free?
|by Anonymous||reply 551||November 29, 2022 3:50 AM|
If you post a link, the least you can do is make it available to read
|by Anonymous||reply 552||November 29, 2022 3:53 AM|
I saw a vid of the Follies that VC was in after Bernie left the part and honestly....she sung too powerfully to convey the shellshocked longing of Losing My Mind. I watched it going "oh...her Sally is sturdy enough to survive this."
I thought Bernadette was terrific. Incredibly raw, unsettling, lost, bitter, hopeless...and you could see that she was still this appealing woman who could have been enjoying her life instead of pining for Ben...but was waaaay too broken to be happy.
I really don't understand why people crapped on Bernadette during that Follies run. Honestly, please explain it to me because in my eyes she GOT it.
|by Anonymous||reply 553||November 29, 2022 4:56 AM|
[quote]I really don't understand why people crapped on Bernadette during that Follies run. Honestly, please explain it to me because in my eyes she GOT it.
Maybe the explanation is as simple as this: Bernadette is well known for being a very inconsistent performer from night to night, so you may have just caught her on a really good night while others did not.
|by Anonymous||reply 554||November 29, 2022 4:59 AM|
Because she started off depressive, r553. Listen to Collins do it. She comes in manic and happy and excited to be there. It would be understandable that a manic phase would have gotten Sally to head to NYC for the reunion.
|by Anonymous||reply 555||November 29, 2022 5:02 AM|
How soon will K-POP post its closing notice? Tomorrow?
|by Anonymous||reply 556||November 29, 2022 5:08 AM|
R554 I did not know Bernie had that reputation. Did she always? Before Follies?
It was my first time seeing her live and I could hear her voice was straining a bit with the score and from age too. I still thought she pulled through. No big mistakes or cracks or anything. She really sung well...but I could image she had rougher nights. So was it just Follies she was inconsistent with?
R555 That's fair I suppose. Is Sally supposed to be manic? I guess it could read that way. She seemed more desperate and sad and also a little giddy initially to me. Does the show really work better when Sally shows up and you have no clue she's dealing with melancholy?
I liked what Bernie did just fine.
I thought people disliked it because she looked too pretty or something. I remember reading a review about how she wasn't frumpy enough.
...see that's why I cannot abide Imelda S as Sally. I mean....are you kidding? It's ridiculous she'd show up, with thar face and body, thinking she could win back an old boyfriend who is now filthy rich with a glamorous life. Absurd. And it pushes the whole piece into a caricature or cartoon.
I prefer when a performance doesn't swing too wildly to extremes. I suppose if Sally starts off really happy and then has this terrible breakdown, audiences will go "WOW - what an EVOLUTION!1!"
Bernie's Sally was clearly a little sad from the start, but it still built. She cracked worse as the night went on. And the staging of her Losing My Mind was just brilliant.
People wereveven shitting on the staging of LMM though, with her standing and crying, which Bernie was so honest with. Meanwhile, with Imelda there's a vanity mirror and pill popping and a wig coming off....so much stuff that didn't need to be there at all. But she gets rave reviews apparently!
|by Anonymous||reply 557||November 29, 2022 6:38 AM|
[quote]Because she started off depressive, [R553]. Listen to Collins do it. She comes in manic and happy and excited to be there.
Dorothy Collins ran onto the stage, That's how excited she was to be there. Bernadette made the obvious (and inappropriate) choice of walking tentatively onto the stage, nervously looking around as though she were expecting at any moment to be hit in the face. A great actress she is not.
|by Anonymous||reply 558||November 29, 2022 7:57 AM|
She also had dumb dumb as a director.
|by Anonymous||reply 559||November 29, 2022 8:14 AM|
True, R559. Eric Schaeffer is a hack.
|by Anonymous||reply 560||November 29, 2022 8:17 AM|
Every weekend I paint for umpteen hours = manic
And yes I miss a lot living like a shut-in = depressive
|by Anonymous||reply 561||November 29, 2022 10:48 AM|
Bernadette’s Sally was very different in DC. She practically bolted onto the stage, wearing a much-criticized red dress that was clearly chosen to make Sally the center of attention. When she danced in Who’s That Woman, she also clearly stood out. This woman had been practicing her Follies dance steps for 30 years,
Broadway was much more on the depressive side. Her dress was replaced, and the dancing played heavily on the idea that none of them could remember the steps.
|by Anonymous||reply 562||November 29, 2022 11:57 AM|
She certainly was not too pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 563||November 29, 2022 12:27 PM|
I remember Bernadette in DC. SHe was practically sobbing through "Losing My Mind." Not a good choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 564||November 29, 2022 12:45 PM|
Losing My Mind by Bernadette was a genuinely awful performance. The worst kind of self indulgence. The performance was completely about how she felt about it with no space for the audience to experience it. I found it completely blinkered and appalling to watch, and was shocked that there was zero guidance from the director or that Sondheim allowed it. Given that Bernadette has given some of my favorite performances over the years, I was genuinely surprised at how awful it was. A textbook definition of how not to perform a song, or role for that matter.
|by Anonymous||reply 565||November 29, 2022 12:56 PM|
Follies is like herpes
|by Anonymous||reply 566||November 29, 2022 1:00 PM|
Sorry to break in to the Follies talk--I'm not really familiar with J Harrison Ghee, but after hearing the terrible version of "I Am What I Am" that's being used in Virgin Atlantic commercials, I went to Youtube to listen to better versions, and found this one. I don't usually like the disco and dance versions, because they tend to rob it of some of (or a lot of) the emotion, but I enjoyed this (even if I did end up rewatching the Walter Charles and Gary Beach versions, which I like more). It's fun and well done.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||November 29, 2022 1:17 PM|
Never saw Follies until the most recent revival. Bernie’s first few lines and Danny’s reaction to her made me think she had either escaped from the loony bin or just went through extensive shock therapy.
|by Anonymous||reply 568||November 29, 2022 1:17 PM|
For those who missed the latest Internet kerfluffle/proof why people shouldn't use Twitter, Jackie Hoffman made a joke about how much she paid for a glass of wine at Ain't No Mo and got it trouble for it. The tweet has since been deleted.
Perhaps the worst part is that it allowed people to spread the dubious claim that the playwright is the youngest ever. The BWW boards have already been dissecting that one. (Shelagh Delaney's A Taste Of Honey, staged on Broadway when she was 21, would seem to beat him by a wide margin. That production naturally starred...Angela Lansbury. All roads lead back to...)
|by Anonymous||reply 569||November 29, 2022 1:31 PM|
I know it's too early, but this thread was started when the previous one was only at r570, so I went ahead and started a new one to head off the Rebas at the pass, using r538's suggestion.
For when the time comes:
|by Anonymous||reply 570||November 29, 2022 1:35 PM|
When LaChanze and her daughter were both on broadway they were heavily publicized as THE FIRST MOTHER AND DAUGHTER APPEARING ON BROADWAY AT THE SAME TIME. Sorry, but Debbie (Woman of the Year) and Carrie (Agnes of God) were there first. No one cared. Just like no one cares if Delaney was the youngest. Rewriting history is becoming more and more common.
|by Anonymous||reply 571||November 29, 2022 1:40 PM|
Weren't Debbie and Carrie together earlier in IRENE?
|by Anonymous||reply 572||November 29, 2022 1:43 PM|
They were, r572. Carrie was in the ensemble of IRENE and stood out because she was so much younger and more petite than the other chorus ladies.
|by Anonymous||reply 573||November 29, 2022 1:53 PM|
"Does the show really work better when Sally shows up and you have no clue she's dealing with melancholy?"
Yes. Plays generally work better if the audience's perception of the character changed over the course of the action. Also, Sallys first lines, "Can I keep it?" "I'm so glad I came" and the fact that she is the first to arrives shows how excited she is. A depressive opening works against the script (and not in a good way).
"People wereveven shitting on the staging of LMM though, with her standing and crying, which Bernie was so honest with. Meanwhile, with Imelda there's a vanity mirror and pill popping and a wig coming off....so much stuff that didn't need to be there at all. But she gets rave reviews apparently!"
Wig coming off? Now, we know you did not see Staunton. You saw Joanna RIding, her replacement,. She introduced that piece of business.
|by Anonymous||reply 574||November 29, 2022 1:54 PM|
Add me as another person who felt Bernadette was too depressed and quivery from her very first entrance in that abominable Follies revival. Shell-shocked is a perfect description. And her Losing My Mind was too one-note.
|by Anonymous||reply 575||November 29, 2022 1:56 PM|
[quote] When LaChanze and her daughter were both on broadway they were heavily publicized as THE FIRST MOTHER AND DAUGHTER APPEARING ON BROADWAY AT THE SAME TIME.
Other examples long before LaChanze and her daughter, Celia Rose Gooding...
Rosemary Harris and daughter Jennifer Ehle were on Broadway at the same time in 2000 (in Waiting in the Wings and The Real Thing, respectively), and were both nominated for Best Actress, with Ehle winning. Tammy Grimes and Amanda Plummer were also on Broadway at the same time in 42nd Street and A Taste of Honey in 1981.
|by Anonymous||reply 576||November 29, 2022 1:57 PM|
I totally agree r575. Since the original production it seems to have been forgotten that these are Follies numbers that comment on the characters' reality. They are not meant to be reality itself.
Which is one of the many reasons that to date, no production has surpassed the original.
|by Anonymous||reply 577||November 29, 2022 2:00 PM|
[Quote] It's ridiculous she'd show up, with thar face and body, thinking she could win back an old boyfriend who is now filthy rich with a glamorous life. Absurd. And it pushes the whole piece into a caricature or cartoon.
What a moronic comment.
|by Anonymous||reply 578||November 29, 2022 2:07 PM|
I was the opposite. My favorite performer is Bernadette Peters. My favorite show is Follies and my favorite song is Losing My Mind.
So I was in heaven when we saw Follies.
I’m sorry she wasn’t everything everyone wanted in the role…but for me…it was glorious.
|by Anonymous||reply 579||November 29, 2022 2:46 PM|
r579, was that your first time at the Follies rodeo?
|by Anonymous||reply 580||November 29, 2022 2:49 PM|
I can't believe someone just typed that Sally needs to be hot enough for the narrative to work.
|by Anonymous||reply 581||November 29, 2022 2:51 PM|
[r580] yep! I live in Indiana so it’s hard to get to the coasts to see productions. I loved Marin Mazzie… but was bummed when she got Losing My Mind during Sondheim’s 80th. I was hoping it would be a surprise that Bernadette would get it. Then it was announced that she got the role at the Kennedy Center and we immediately got tickets. Even in 2011 it was difficult as the site kept crashing. I think we were in the queue for a full hour, but we got our tickets.
|by Anonymous||reply 582||November 29, 2022 2:53 PM|
I may be an outlier, but I thought Bernadette actually sang quite well throughout Follies and was impressed by the strength of her head voice at her age, but didn't like the weepy take on "Losing My Mind." And I think, as others have said, her director probably left her rudderless throughout.
|by Anonymous||reply 583||November 29, 2022 3:17 PM|
When Steve met Meryl, and other stories....
|by Anonymous||reply 584||November 29, 2022 3:21 PM|
I imagine Sondheim was VERY involved in that production of Follies. I can't imagine he left anyone to just trust their own instincts. He wasn't exactly shy about giving his opinions and notes, even when he was dealing with Trevor Nunn and the like. If you didn't like Bernadette's choices, just know they were, at the very least, Sondheim-approved. If not Sondheim-directed.
|by Anonymous||reply 585||November 29, 2022 3:22 PM|
This was posted in another thread, but it's such a lovely tribute to Mary Beth Peil and to the power of working in theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 586||November 29, 2022 3:28 PM|
Oh my god!!! I just found out Sondheim was dead!
|by Anonymous||reply 587||November 29, 2022 3:30 PM|
Bernadette always cries so the audience doesn't have to.
|by Anonymous||reply 588||November 29, 2022 3:33 PM|
Bernadette is one of those performers who isn't really an actor. She doesn't have a technique from which to draw so she tries out things throughout the run. Without a solid base, you end up with her willy-nilly choices.
|by Anonymous||reply 589||November 29, 2022 4:05 PM|
[quote]Does the show really work better when Sally shows up and you have no clue she's dealing with melancholy?
Look up manic-depression, r557. The highs are as high as the lows are low.
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|by Anonymous||reply 591||November 29, 2022 4:09 PM|
"Rewriting history is becoming more and more common."
In an age when politicians refuse to concede defeat and others fly their freak flag in the face of science, gender, biology and truth, what else can you expect? Come back, George Orwell, we hardly knew ye.
"Theaters are paying “diversity dramaturges” to vet scripts to make sure they don’t contain insensitive language or offensive stereotypes, a development that rattles some writers. “You can’t write with the idea that someone is looking over your shoulder,” says a writer who is not white but who is writing about cultures other than his own. “This is impinging on the creative process.”'
What a tragedy, truly. We may as well be back in the Soviet Union, with the apparatchiks approving art by committee, while Stalin glowers down from a portrait on the wall.
|by Anonymous||reply 592||November 29, 2022 4:17 PM|
People just don't care about accuracy anymore. In news, in advertising -- anything goes. As I mentioned in another thread, there's a commercial for the tour of "Mean Girls" that claims that Tina Fey was the "creator of Saturday Night Live."
|by Anonymous||reply 593||November 29, 2022 4:22 PM|
Who wants to fuck up the next thread title?
|by Anonymous||reply 594||November 29, 2022 4:26 PM|
Sounds like PHANTOM is extending into the spring, should be announced today.
|by Anonymous||reply 595||November 29, 2022 4:34 PM|
It's not hogwash. Bernadette's line readings can veer wildly. That's not an inventine actor, it's someone throwing things at the wall.
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