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She Said Bombs


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by Anonymousreply 92November 26, 2022 5:52 AM

Lifetime movie stuff. They did a book. Promoted it on the talk show circuit. Won their Pulitzer. What more do we need to know about this episode?

by Anonymousreply 1November 21, 2022 6:58 AM

Made by the same people who knew about Weinstein and kept silent. People didn’t want to see this? I’m shocked.

by Anonymousreply 2November 21, 2022 6:59 AM

Who said bombs?

by Anonymousreply 3November 21, 2022 7:09 AM

Not a good time for depressing movies.

by Anonymousreply 4November 21, 2022 7:11 AM

People want uplift right now. Not some depressing story with non-stars.

by Anonymousreply 5November 21, 2022 7:24 AM

“It’s a tough sell,” says Shawn Robbins, chief analyst with Boxoffice Pro. “People are looking for escapism right now. Even adult audiences are looking for something that takes them away from reality.”

“She Said” has a lot of company when it comes to well-reviewed movies that have collapsed on the shoals of audience indifference. One by one, this year’s crop of Oscar contenders have flopped or, at best, under-performed. There’s “Tár,” a drama about sexual harassment in the world of classical music that has eked out $4.9 million in seven weeks of release; “Armageddon Time,” a coming-of-age film that has only managed to generate $1.8 million after a month in theaters; and “Triangle of Sadness,” a satirical look at the one-percent that has crawled to a $3.8 million gross since opening in mid-October. “The Banshees of Inisherin” and “Till” have done slightly better, earning $7.1 million and $8.5 million, respectively, but their results aren’t exactly igniting the box office; they both will likely struggle to turn a profit in their theatrical runs.

“Across the board, it’s a scary time for prestige films,” says Jeff Bock, an analyst with Exhibitor Relations. “We may be witnessing a sea change in cinema. Ultimately, audiences decide what gets made and right now audiences aren’t choosing to watch these films in theaters.

by Anonymousreply 6November 21, 2022 8:33 AM

She Said = shitty name about a not feel good subject

by Anonymousreply 7November 21, 2022 8:38 AM

Don't drop bombs!

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by Anonymousreply 8November 21, 2022 9:03 AM

Privately, studio executives point to a number of culprits. They say this year’s awards films are too arty, too depressing, too lacking in A-list talent to convince crowds to show up. And they note that there have been success stories earlier in the year — notably “Elvis,” which was aimed at adults and earned an impressive $286 million globally, and “Everything Everywhere All at Once,” a multiverse head trip that has racked up $103 million worldwide while being perceived as artistically bold.

But those films didn’t have to compete with a glut of other prestige fare, which could be further fracturing an already shrinking audience base, one that may be wary of hitting up cinemas during COVID.

“There’s a lot of films chasing an audience that may be a little reticent about returning to theaters,” says Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst for Comscore. “It may be a little too much of a good thing

by Anonymousreply 9November 21, 2022 9:09 AM

I would not watch this if it were an old-time TV Movie of the Week.

How it got financing to be a theatrical release, I have no idea.

The marketing isn't that compelling, either: The commercials are just a couple of cat ladies ringing doorbells.

by Anonymousreply 10November 21, 2022 9:20 AM

R2 and R4 got it right. Everywhere I’ve seen people say they don’t want to see it either because of Pitt’s name being on it or because they want escapism with their entertainment, not more depressing shit.

by Anonymousreply 11November 21, 2022 9:43 AM

No one is interested in a trauma narrative about actresses being asked to suck a dick in exchange for a three picture deal. Too low stakes.

Precious had real problems and the box office reflected that.

by Anonymousreply 12November 21, 2022 10:37 AM

Americans are not going to run to theaters to see a movie starring Zoe Kazan and Carey Mulligan, talented as these women may be.

by Anonymousreply 13November 21, 2022 1:07 PM

I watched the trailer and nearly fell asleep. The subject matter couldn't be more meh. Honestly not trying to downplay Weinstein's sleaziness but currently there are bigger things in the world to worry about rn and those that need an escape from all of those things aren't going to watch this film. Plus it was all 3 years ago and those who were actually interested in the story to begin with, outside of click bait twitter drama while you're waiting for your dentist appointment, already know everything.

Lack of star power helped but also there's no hook, or implied entertainment in the trailer, just a very straight forward and somewhat pious and earnest journalistic investigation. And yes having 2 relatively unknown women as the leads didn't help.

Of course, the fact that it's a Hollywood oscar baity movie (the kind Weinstein would have bent over backwards to produce) patting itself on the back for "exposing" something they knew about for years on end might have not sat write with some people either.

by Anonymousreply 14November 21, 2022 1:38 PM

I dont buy the whole "People want escapism" argument either, at least not fully. People will (occasionally) go to a deeper, drama based, "realistic" film that touches harder subjects if either the trailer/marketing/hype resonates with them. This one just didn't.

by Anonymousreply 15November 21, 2022 1:43 PM

I agree, R15. It doesn’t play as well when people in the audience are broke and angry. I’m sure many of them thought “Hell, I’d suck THREE dicks for ONE movie” so the approach and timing is tone deaf.

This would be like expecting people to come to a movie about the trauma of having a big dick.

by Anonymousreply 16November 21, 2022 2:03 PM

[quote]I dont buy the whole "People want escapism" argument either, at least not fully.

How's " Wakanda Forever" doing at the box office?

by Anonymousreply 17November 21, 2022 2:13 PM

No mulligan for Carey!

by Anonymousreply 18November 21, 2022 2:16 PM

Couldn’t happen to a more self-righteous bore than Carey Mulligan.

by Anonymousreply 19November 21, 2022 2:17 PM

R19: Or nepo baby Zoe Kazan.

by Anonymousreply 20November 21, 2022 2:18 PM

$550M worldwide going on week 2 R12.

For a Marvel movie, it is fine but not great. Black Adam probably won’t hit $400M, which is downright embarrassing.

The Menu did fairly well for the size of its budget.

by Anonymousreply 21November 21, 2022 2:19 PM

How they ever got a $32M budget for a film led by Zoe Kazan is a mystery.

I think I’d rather watch a film about the making of this film that punctures the sanctimony.

by Anonymousreply 22November 21, 2022 2:19 PM

I'm not going back to the movie theater. Even before covid, it could be a challenging experience.

At one showing I attended, someone started yelling at two guys for talking during the film.

It escalated to a shouting match with insults and threats exchanged.

I will stream at home

by Anonymousreply 23November 21, 2022 2:24 PM

R23. Good. Never leave the house. You loser.

by Anonymousreply 24November 21, 2022 2:35 PM

[quote]Lack of star power helped but also there's no hook, or implied entertainment in the trailer, just a very straight forward and somewhat pious and earnest journalistic investigation.

The same could be said of "Spotlight", but I think one of aspects that made that movie compelling is that while everyone is certainly against child abuse, the idea of going up against the (then) powerful Catholic Church and the Boston establishment created some discomfort & soul searching for the very human, flawed reporters & editors. On the face of it, this movie just looks like "Do Gooders: The Movie"

by Anonymousreply 25November 21, 2022 2:44 PM

Nobody cares about Me Too anymore. It's old news.

by Anonymousreply 26November 21, 2022 2:47 PM

It’s a terrible title, too. Sounds like a political screed. No one wants a lecture when they go to the movies.

All the commercial negatives aside, it’s actually a good movie. It’ll probably do well on streaming, which is where it should have been released in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 27November 21, 2022 2:48 PM

" Spotlight" was well written and acted.

by Anonymousreply 28November 21, 2022 2:51 PM

Is there any campy portrayals of famous Weinstein accusers? I’d love to see a terrible Rose McGowan impersonation.

by Anonymousreply 29November 21, 2022 2:52 PM

Who plays Ronan?

by Anonymousreply 30November 21, 2022 2:53 PM

And in a few weeks Women Talking’s even worse box office performance will make She Said look like a success story.

by Anonymousreply 31November 21, 2022 2:53 PM

R25 child sexual abuse done by members of the Catholic church hits way deeper than Hollywood hopefulls being propositioned/blackmailed on the casting couch into giving blow jobs...sorry, but true.

And I saw Spotlight and thought it was ok, but it did have a few moments of humor, of character exploration, not to mention a much more varied cast with both men and women, some famous, some not.

This seemed in the trailers, and word of mouth agrees, a very dull, straight forward investigative movie with very one dimensional characters.

by Anonymousreply 32November 21, 2022 3:07 PM

They should rerelease this with Bros as a double bill for 4 hours of constant audience lecturing.

by Anonymousreply 33November 21, 2022 3:44 PM

Priests abusing altar boys is the ostensibly very pure destroying the purely innocent.

This is a gross, ugly dirt bag using (what many Americans see as) gross, pretty whores to get everyone exactly what they want.

No comparison to the pathos.

by Anonymousreply 34November 21, 2022 3:55 PM

It was produced by Brad Pitt, who had known about Gwyneth and Angelina’s incidents for years and still did business with him.

by Anonymousreply 35November 21, 2022 4:47 PM

It's called the oldest profession in the world.

For good reason.

by Anonymousreply 36November 21, 2022 5:03 PM

I had no plans to watch it—and I'm a woman. But it's received such great reviews, I'm going to see it in the theater this weekend.

by Anonymousreply 37November 21, 2022 5:25 PM

The Bros double feature is an excellent idea!

by Anonymousreply 38November 21, 2022 5:30 PM

Audiences are trapped between the onslaught of superhero trash and social issue movies that try to lecture them at Oscars time.

by Anonymousreply 39November 21, 2022 5:49 PM

Which is why audiences paid to watch a romantic comedy with real old time movie stars like Julia Roberts.

I'm uninterested in stories about hookers who aged out the game and have reconstructed their choices as abuse

by Anonymousreply 40November 21, 2022 5:55 PM

If I'm going to endure the unpleasantness of a movie theater, the film has to require a big screen to tell its story. "She said" doesn't.

It doesn't mean Weinstein's victims are whores (Thanks, DL incels.) It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the movie. I'm sure I'll enjoy it when it streams in 3-6 months. It does mean that a different sort of movie is required for theatrical release.

by Anonymousreply 41November 21, 2022 6:15 PM

In every interview I have seen, they keep saying how this movie is just like “All the President’s Men!” Except it isn’t. And has none of the star power.

by Anonymousreply 42November 21, 2022 6:21 PM

I can get mildly outraged for free.

No thanks.

by Anonymousreply 43November 21, 2022 6:27 PM

Everything there is to say about this case has been said. The only thing I'm curious about is who Samantha Morton plays. Does she play herself?

by Anonymousreply 44November 21, 2022 6:29 PM

I actually really like Zoe Kazan. She's a really good actress and has earned her merits all on her own. But her role choices tend to be dull as dirt.

by Anonymousreply 45November 21, 2022 6:33 PM

Jennifer Lawrence called it the best date movie ever.

by Anonymousreply 46November 21, 2022 6:37 PM

Between Covid and streaming, the last couple years have altered what people will go to a theater to see.

I keep hearing of those hallyhoo’d films that run 2.5+ hours. That’s stuff I’d only watch at home, where I can break it into two viewing sessions.

But I think most of us don’t see much of a difference between these art films and some of the stuff that’s made directly for streaming. So why should I be expected to leave the house and sit with other loud people for stuff that does not need to be seen on the big screen?

by Anonymousreply 47November 21, 2022 6:48 PM

Terrible idea, but if they had campy versions of all the stars involved, I'd probably be sold. Just something fun and flashy.

It's show business, not NPR...

But I'll stream it for free for sure.

by Anonymousreply 48November 21, 2022 7:03 PM

R44, I didn’t know Samantha Morton was in it! I fucking love her. She’s apparently batshit crazy IRL, but I think she’s an excellent and underrated actress.

by Anonymousreply 49November 22, 2022 12:54 AM

Samantha Morton is Excellent. Everyone in the cast is. And the director did a great job making phone scenes and interview scenes that could have been boring or redundant compelling. Well done.

by Anonymousreply 50November 22, 2022 3:03 AM

Can't say I'm surprised when I see the stills they always chose to talk about this film. 2 serious faced women on the phone is hardly enticing.

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by Anonymousreply 51November 23, 2022 4:25 PM

Don't wanna see preachy films about a pay to play scheme made by people who are complicit and benefited from it.

by Anonymousreply 52November 23, 2022 5:30 PM

That includes that ridiculous narrative concerning MeAgain Kkkelly.

They did everything to get that career, including all the things reasonable people WOULD NOT DO and now want to reconstruct the narrative as abuse.


by Anonymousreply 53November 23, 2022 5:51 PM

The box office for this makes Bros look like Independence Day.

by Anonymousreply 54November 23, 2022 6:24 PM

Carey Mulligan and Zoe Kazan together don't add up to one full human being. It's like casting your film with invisible ink. Mulligan is like a glass of curdled milk, and Kazan is every bad habit of Geraldine Page without a central nervous system attached.

Cannot imagine how this flopped.

by Anonymousreply 55November 23, 2022 6:53 PM

Who said what now?

by Anonymousreply 56November 23, 2022 7:04 PM

I can never get into journalism movies for some reason. And the story itself is just not very interesting, just skeezy.

by Anonymousreply 57November 23, 2022 7:40 PM

I agree about journalistic movies. A film has to have more than an investigation to make me want to watch. If there's nothing in the film I can't learn by watching a documentary or reading a wikipedia entry then why bother. Maybe if I didn't already know about it I could get into it, if the stakes were higher and morr compelling. Otherwise...pass.

by Anonymousreply 58November 23, 2022 7:49 PM


by Anonymousreply 59November 23, 2022 8:15 PM

A movie about cunts, by cunts, presumably for cunts. The problems is that even women don't want to go watch this crap. Women want to see muscular guys take their shirts off.

by Anonymousreply 60November 23, 2022 8:23 PM

The nature of film going has changed. We not only have more options available, we have an audience that has become comfortable watching video on their comparatively teeny-tiny screens, wants to stop the screening at will, and has become accustomed to shorter formats and accordingly shorter attention spans. Does this sound like going to the movies?

I think the social aspect of moviegoing is an anachronism. As a teenager and young adult, my friends and I would go see a movie and talk to the people sitting around us, maybe even invite them to hang out afterward. I met a lot of people at the movies — or at least I did until the mid-90s when theaters began trying to make the auditorium more like a living room. And it was great! Until it wasn't.

Covid came along and was, IMHO, the final nail in the theatrical release coffin.

Being social is now a solitary activity with a phone in your hand. Moreover, it's hard to film yourself in a dark theater.

The last movie I went to see in a theater was Bros. I went because I wanted to see it, wanted to support the first major Hollywood gay romcom, and wanted to see Luke Macfarlane splashed across the giant screen as much as possible (having seen some of the previews). It was shown in a tiny theater with ~30 seats. The screen was barely larger than the TV in my family room, and the sound quality did not match my home sound system (not boasting; it was just bad). Someone in the row in front of hubby and I fucked with his phone throughout the movie. Others wandered in and out of the auditorium. On the walk out to the car, I said to hubby "I don't think I'll go see any more movies in the theater."

I'm not complaining; just making observations. The nature of film going has changed.

by Anonymousreply 61November 23, 2022 8:38 PM

[quote]Carey Mulligan and Zoe Kazan together don't add up to one full human being. It's like casting your film with invisible ink. Mulligan is like a glass of curdled milk, and Kazan is every bad habit of Geraldine Page without a central nervous system attached.

I don't agree about Mulligan, and yet I love this description of both actresses anyway.

by Anonymousreply 62November 23, 2022 8:47 PM

I saw the poster for this on the side of bus in London. Wow. What a terrible graphic design. It looked more like an office supply ad or a temp recruitment service.

by Anonymousreply 63November 23, 2022 10:52 PM

This would have done better on streaming.

by Anonymousreply 64November 23, 2022 11:20 PM

Because everything is so fkin expensive nobody wants to sit thru a 2 hour Wesleyan lecture, no matter how well made, about a topic we done already read 12 editorials about.

by Anonymousreply 65November 23, 2022 11:23 PM

It looks super boring. Very “made for HBO movie,” circa 1994.

by Anonymousreply 66November 23, 2022 11:47 PM

I quite liked it. Filled with really good actresses. So there.

by Anonymousreply 67November 24, 2022 12:59 AM

Who plays Ronan Farrow?

by Anonymousreply 68November 24, 2022 1:19 AM

Ronan Farrow probably.

by Anonymousreply 69November 24, 2022 1:52 AM

Ronan is mentioned, but doesn’t appear. I’d like to think that if he were a character in the movie, Mia would find a way to Joan Crawford herself into the part.

And I liked it more than I thought, but it still feels a bit inconsequential. It doesn’t demand a theatrical viewing, whereas even smaller movies like Tar or Armageddon Time can make that case.

by Anonymousreply 70November 24, 2022 3:15 AM

Everyone is going to watch it, when goes on streaming and at home viewing platforms. It will make the money back via the utiluzation og all the newer distribution/ viewing methods.

think this through.

by Anonymousreply 71November 24, 2022 3:32 AM

Sure, Jan.

by Anonymousreply 72November 24, 2022 3:34 AM

There were great scenes in She Said. The guy playing Matt Lauer chasing the chick around his locked dressing room in fast motion to The Benny Hill Show music, and Charlie Rose “accidentally” dropping his robe to the floor to the sound of a slide flute as a running gag were my favorite parts. It was much better than Bombshell.

by Anonymousreply 73November 24, 2022 3:54 AM

I saw the trailer for this awhile back and it looked like hot garbage—trite, preachy dialogue and seriously bad acting. Who thought Zoe Kazan was capable of carrying a movie anyway? Carrie Mulligan too, for that matter.

by Anonymousreply 74November 24, 2022 3:57 AM

She Shed?

by Anonymousreply 75November 24, 2022 4:25 AM

What a snoozy cast. The only thing missing is Katherine Waterston in a no nonsense bowl cut, playing an inconsequential supporting role.

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by Anonymousreply 76November 24, 2022 4:29 AM

R70 " Joan Crawford her way into the part ". Fuck, I wish I had thought of that line.

by Anonymousreply 77November 24, 2022 4:42 AM

[quote]Kazan is every bad habit of Geraldine Page without a central nervous system attached.

Damn, you're right.

by Anonymousreply 78November 24, 2022 6:48 AM

From the previews, it seemed like one of those faux-feminism movies. And with people like Amber Heard and Anthony Rapp being exposed for using sexual assault accusations to further their own careers, the #MeToo movement has died. Pre-pandemic it might have interested people, but not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 79November 24, 2022 7:42 AM

Reading through this thread I had no idea that Harvey had internet access.

by Anonymousreply 80November 24, 2022 8:02 AM

R79 Hi Kevin and Johnny 👋

by Anonymousreply 81November 24, 2022 10:03 AM

What did they use to represent Harvey Weinstein's fish-like penis?

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by Anonymousreply 83November 24, 2022 3:57 PM

Mia already Joan Crawforded her way into The Watcher.

by Anonymousreply 84November 24, 2022 5:15 PM

R76 genius comment!!

No one’s dragging their asses to pay $60+ for tickets for two for two tickets, snacks and fuel:parking to see Carey Mulligan and Zoe Kazan in an earnest docudrama in the current financial and public health climate. Of course it flopped hard.

Even Bombshell had to get the glossy Jay Roach treatment and star no less than Charlize Theron, Nicole Kidman and Margot Robbie to get into cinemas.

It probably would have worked very well to cast two mousy critical darlings in a limited series like The Dropout or The Loudest Voice.

by Anonymousreply 85November 25, 2022 2:41 PM

R75 She Bop?

by Anonymousreply 86November 25, 2022 2:54 PM

These films are all just the absurd fantasies of suburban dorks, they're shitty and unrelatable

by Anonymousreply 87November 25, 2022 2:56 PM

I didn't even watch Bombshell

by Anonymousreply 88November 26, 2022 12:48 AM

R88 No one watched Bombshell. The media and Hollywood really did try to push the Megyn Kelly as hero narrative but it bombed because there was no audience. Right wingers hated her for bringing Roger " hamburger meat" Ailes down and left wingers hated her for pushing right wing propaganda for years.

by Anonymousreply 89November 26, 2022 2:31 AM

True, but everyone loves Charlize.

by Anonymousreply 90November 26, 2022 3:16 AM

Not me r90, she seems like a crazy bitch

by Anonymousreply 91November 26, 2022 4:51 AM

R90 I made her career happen. She is very special to me.

by Anonymousreply 92November 26, 2022 5:52 AM
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