Autistic people are disloyal and mean to their core

What is the point of this hate? They do have empathy or many do.

The rage thing seems to describe psychopaths more than autistic people. Vengefulness seems more like a narcissistic trait as well.

[quote]THEY HAVE NO EMPATHY!!

I mean, their brain is literally wired that way, it's kind of the reason they're autistic.

OP is on the spectrum obviously.

R2, lack of empathy is a narcissistic trait as is revenge. There are Parallels between the disorders.

Back off OP. Autistic people did not ask for autism.

[Bold] It's a disease!

Most autistics are not empathetic and have to be taught empathetic facial expressions and phrases. They're also easily agitated and have to be taught to curb their violent tendencies.

I don't understand all these anti autistic threads. I find them to be majorly weird but not vengeful for the most part. The girls in particular are usually docile and helpful towards others to an excessive fault.

You want to see vengeful spend time with a cluster b ( npd or bpd). These people are appalling. Maybe you're meeting cluster bs misdiagnosed with autism?

Autistics with any power over people are to be feared .

Why do people on here say Henry Cawil is austic asperger or something? He doesn't appear to be disloyal and mean or are there rumors?

Yeah because there are so many in positions of power r8. Sheesh!

A lot of BPD women I've met are self diagnosed aspies or austistics. No, bitch, you crazy. Not neuro-divergent or special and it took 33 years to figure it out...

I know right ? ☝🏼.

I hate it when they start threads like this one.

r11 No, in fact they will probably find out that lots of women diagnosed with BPD (as well as depression...) are actually autistic. Personality disorder are not very hard science.

R14, a lot of female autistics are disproportionately trans and or weird asexual lesbians.

r15 That too.

R14... did you read that on the internet when you were self diagnosing?

OP is deranged.

People who come in contact with these types have less than favorable opinions.

I have to agree with you, OP. I wish I did not, but my experiences support your words.

OP is an aspie.

Based on life experience, not indoctrinated sensitivity, i agree: most gay autists and aspies are cold as ice.

Asperger Autistics tend to come off mean. But autism is a spectrum. Some high-functioning (non-Asperger) autistics can be empathetic.

I disagree with your assessment, OP. I've dealt with a lot of people over the years who lack empathy and none of them were autistic.

I've also met people who call themselves empaths. You want to run for your life as if you're being chased by a grizzly if you meet those types of people. They're usually narcissistic sociopaths/psychopaths trying to find their next victim.

Nice generalization there, OP. I hope your beauty salon continues to prosper, ya old hag.

You just offended 70% of DL.

And the OP is so FULL of....empathy.

R24 what are empaths?

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Person who has met one person with autism (allegedly) makes a blanket value judgement about everyone on the spectrum. Others chime in about their respective one-off experiences with people who have other mental health diagnoses (allegedly). Debate about NPD vs. psychopathy vs. ASD ensues. The weekly circle jerk endures.

Autistic people lack social graces or restraint. They react on impulse a lot of the time, so when an average would say “I’m so pissed I could punch a wall,” they actually do. Although they do try to manipulate, it’s very awkward and transparent. I liken it to thoughts and feelings most people have but have been socialized to hide or acknowledge as bad. They are more or less tied with the general public for legitimate malevolence.

Asperger’s are the annoying ones because they can generally have conversations and interests but they do not understand nuance and are extremely defensive. There is absolutely no black and white thinking. If you want to hear Asperger thinking, go on Reddit. That site basically Spectrum dot com. They are entitled and rude.

Social media and lockdowns have excaberated Asberger behavior, so it feels especially widespread. These are people at a deficit who have been trapped at home and are getting zero socialization. It actually poses a threat to the general public if they become angry.

Autism is way, way over-diagnosed and I don't believe for a minute in Asperger's. They're narcissistic people with zero social graces because of their arrogance who now claim they're autistic to prevent people from responding to their attacks. They are assholes.

It's not really their fault they haven't got empathy and have rage issues. I find it less acceptable when people are arseholes on purpose.

Is autism caused by defective genes?

My general rule is: no tics or hand flapping, no overreacting to stimuli, or CLEAR neurological issues, you've got yourself a bullshitting asshole who wants an excuse to asshole.

R34 I have heard it comes from vaccines

Autism is just mental retardation.

The moms don’t want to call their kids retards, but that’s what they are.

Isn't autism caused by dusty sperm? I have a coworker who fathered a child in his late 50s. Lo and behold, the child is autistic.

See also: Baron Trump

FFS, yet another thread about autism, of which 2 people in my extended family have.

Step into a grease fire, OP.

I think OP is describing NPDs and BPDs. They frequently go on the attack, but claim be perpetual victims themselves. They are never at fault for their own awful behavior. And they do lack empathy. Care nothing at all about others except for how they might be useful. When called out, they turn the tables lightening fast to try and guilt you, turning on the waterworks and letting you know how much you've "hurt" them.

Perceived slights are a hallmark. BPD's in particular think they are mind readers--ascribing motives and complicated agendas to others based on nothing but their own delusions and self involved paranoia.

[quote]And the OP is so FULL of....

Shit!

You wouldn't be the "Is there any more hate-filled people than the British" Troll, would you? Trying it on with another broad group?

She seems nice

How many autistic kids are just the same as Romanian orphans, with narcissistic personality disordered moms and absent dads who don't engage them as infants? So they never learn social cues, etc.

R44 does that mean all lockdown kids will become autists or aspergers?

This self-hating dyke is still here? You haven’t pickled your liver yet with the multiple bottles of wine you drink every day?

R45, actually I bet a lot get diagnosed as such, and get all the attending interventions, testing accommodations and aids.

At least the rich ones.

R46, I’m a gay man and I only smoke weed asshole! I’m Assuming you are autistic with your extremely hostile and defensive post. I bet you have a fat , ugly face too

[quote]How many autistic kids are just the same as Romanian orphans, with narcissistic personality disordered moms and absent dads who don't engage them as infants? So they never learn social cues, etc.

This is a VERY outdated theory, gramps. Used to be popular from the 1940's -1960's. Long ago debunked.

R49, let's see what iPhones have to say about this in 20 years.

R49, also guess who debunked that study? Bernard Rimland, who started this fun little chestnut,

[quote] They have been equally unmoved by Dr. Rimland’s argument that childhood vaccines with trace amounts of mercury are a major cause of autism. Yet parents, journalists and patients’ advocates have rallied against the vaccines and forced changes in legislation in some states, altering the shots.

But I'm sure he's infallible and wasn't trying to prove his and his wife's parenting wasn't a factor.

Hellooooo. It's not called a disorder for nothing. It absolutely affects interactions with others.

[quote] Is autism caused by defective genes?

I'm not sure if it's definitively genetic but it is familial.

R53, that's bullshit. Nobody gets "cured" of autism. It can be alleviated in SOME cases and with the changed lax diagnoses, it becomes easier to deal with it.

Dyslexics are always dyslexic, they just find a way to navigate around it. Right? Any experts here?

I know a woman who was diagnosed as bipolar 1 with rage disorder. She now declares herself an Aspie and she gets away with even more fuckery

I’ve always had great experiences with people who are high functioning autistics. They are polite and don’t tanner on incessantly like a lot of people.

Yammer I meant. ^

Autism makes autistics frustrated and emotionally childish. They can't help it. It's not a disease, though. It's like brain damage. For instance, my mother was forced to not give birth to me until her doctor arrived at the hospital. Two hours. When I was allowed to be born, they had me on inclining board to help me puke up the afterbirth. That's what they told her, but I suspect that it was to help clear my lungs. I hate to think about how many other babies were damaged by stupid nurses and tardy doctors.

If having little empathy for others' feelings make me a bad person, then I'm bad. Irredeemable. I certainly feel guilty enough for my words and lack of sensitivity, so there's that. Regrets. I have more than a few regrets for how I've treated people. But what can I do? Despite popular belief, you can't learn to be more empathic. The severely autistic stay as they are, treatment or not. Talk of a spectrum misleads people. They think you can improve. No. Better adaptation, yes. The nonverbal will remain nonverbal. Difficulty communicating is what causes the frustration. Frustration seems a lot like anger, of course.

About narcissism: it's a personality type. How can people change their own personality? I can imagine being taught how to behave better, but ti won't change the narcissist. They can't help being whaqt they are. You can help yourself by avoiding them. There are much worse things to be than narcissistic, you know. No empathy + desire to harm others= psychopathy. Or is that sociopathy? Whatever it's labeled, it's much worse than narcissism. More destructive by far. Don't you think so?

[quote]For instance, my mother was forced to not give birth to me until her doctor arrived at the hospital. Two hours. When I was allowed to be born, they had me on inclining board to help me puke up the afterbirth. That's what they told her, but I suspect that it was to help clear my lungs. I hate to think about how many other babies were damaged by stupid nurses and tardy doctors.

Sounds like your mom and/or you got things confused. You can't hold back a birth. The baby comes when it wants to.

I worked for years with kids with autism (REAL autism not bullshit) and Down's. First of all, kids with Down's are 1000X more civilized and smarter. People who claim their kids became autistic due to vaccines are people looking for somebody else to blame - or sue - for the fact their kid is defective. Having spoken to many parents of kids with real autism, the ones who had older children realized early on something was wrong with the autistic kid and it was missing its milestones. It's the ones who had never had kids who believed vaccines were responsible as autism gets officially diagnosed at about 2 1/2 - the same time kids get the vaccines.

I'm autistic and have been bullied by "normies" my whole life. That's when I haven't been treated like a fluffy pet. Can you blame me for being a little pissed off at society?

R61 if you were autistic, you would be non-verbal and currently sitting in a room somewhere hitting your head against a wall. You're not autistic, you have a personality disorder.

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This new and watered down diagnosis for autism has truly fucked it up for those with real autism. There is only so much money to go around for programs and special ed.

When did this start that everyone needed some diagnosis to account for what they were and how they behaved?

I mean I know why my clients got so easily diagnosed for something or another - their mothers wanted that monthly check for $770 from SSDI.

That’s terrible ☝🏼

I think saying you're autistic is similar to saying you are gender fluid/nonconforming/pronouns: a way for middle-class white people to claim they are a persecuted minority. They are very jealous of all those black people getting murdered by cops and all the gay men getting murdered by shooters in gay clubs. THEY ARE VICTIMS TOO!

R66, 🙌🙏💯

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Half this thread is one user replying to themselves and bumping it over and over again. Get help.

Bumpity bump heads against walls you autistic bitches 😂

Read this and especially the comments from other autistics never seeing their part and lying .

#ActuallyPersonalityDisordered

Bump .people need to start calling these creeps out . I’m Sick of these petulant assholes who have no empathy

r73 is a prime example of "no empathy".

[quote] We turn the lights up and the sound down, so you can feel free to be you at these unique showings for people living with autism or other special needs.

How about you just fucking wait till the movie comes on streaming?

Could you imagine alll the theater seats filled with people rocking back and forth?

"can you imagine alll the theater seats filled with people rocking back and forth?" -Have you ever been to the Lincoln Square AMC on the Upper West Side on a weekend r75?

Autism needs to be cured now!! It’s a ghastly thing

The most believable theory about autism is that real autism - not narcissistic, rude, obsessional people claiming to be 'on the spectrum' - occurs in or about the 14th week of gestation. True autistics invariably suffer from gastro-intestinal problems. The gastrointestinal tract develops during this period.

Eventually, a genetic marker for autism will no doubt be found. A genetic marker for schizophrenia has already been identified. And a reminder that autism used to be known as infantile schizophrenia.

R78, and it was known in the Freudian language as “ childhood psychopathy.”

R78, brilliantly described

I'm gonna dispel a few myths, a few rumors. First off, the retarded don't rule the night. They don't rule it. Nobody does. And they don't run in packs. And while they may not be as strong as apes, don't lock eyes with 'em, don't do it. Puts 'em on edge. They might go into berzerker mode; come at you like a whirling dervish, all fists and elbows. You might be screaming "No, no, no" and all they hear is "Who wants cake?" Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.

Lol R81. Bravo 👏

At the thread at R71, it's a gigantic pity party. These adults saying they weren't "diagnosed until 33 or 51. Particularly the PhDs.

They seem to be upset that they are reassessing diagnoses of autistics.

[quote] I wrote a thread on how Reactive Attachment Disorder replaces Autism diagnoses for marginalized kids and enables weird moral judgement of autistic traits in popular medical literature:

They don't like this at all. They seem to love and thrive on being able to say they are autistic.