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Frederic Forrest GoFundMe for Caregiving Expenses

Bette Midler tweet at R1.

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by Anonymousreply 293November 24, 2022 7:34 AM
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by Anonymousreply 1November 12, 2022 1:50 AM

Terrible. Sorry to read this.

I hope Bette coughs up enough money to keep him in caregivers. I'd say that's the least she can do.

by Anonymousreply 2November 12, 2022 1:52 AM

Open your wallet, Bette, instead of asking others for help. What a cheap bitch.

by Anonymousreply 3November 12, 2022 1:53 AM

Doesn't SAG take care of their members?

by Anonymousreply 4November 12, 2022 2:01 AM

No, R4.

by Anonymousreply 5November 12, 2022 2:11 AM

That’s what I thought r4 so she’s promoting g his Gofundme.

by Anonymousreply 6November 12, 2022 2:12 AM

I had no idea he was so old ! I agree with what R3 said. She could easily pay for his care for the rest of his life and not even notice it.Cheap bitch.

by Anonymousreply 7November 12, 2022 2:27 AM

Yeah, Midler shouldn't be asking non-multi-millionaires to contribute. Cunt could write a check the way others drop pennies.

by Anonymousreply 8November 12, 2022 2:30 AM

how much is Bette worth?

by Anonymousreply 9November 12, 2022 2:33 AM

$280 million, R9.

by Anonymousreply 10November 12, 2022 2:34 AM

Or maybe only $250 million.

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by Anonymousreply 11November 12, 2022 2:35 AM

And she sold her Manhattan place for $50 million.

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by Anonymousreply 12November 12, 2022 2:37 AM

If his family has set up a GOFUNDME, Bette is doing the right thing.

by Anonymousreply 13November 12, 2022 2:42 AM

And, R13, she can do the much better thing and tell the family to send the bills to her.

by Anonymousreply 14November 12, 2022 2:44 AM

I thought there was an "Old Actors' Home" somewhere in LA for indigent senior thespians.

by Anonymousreply 15November 12, 2022 2:59 AM

One, those "celebrity net worth" things are complete bullshit.

Two, why the hell should Bette Midler pay all the expenses for someone she worked with 40+ years ago? For a period of probably about 8 weeks or so.

Frederic Forrest also worked with Coppola many times. Should he pony up, too?

Also, why are you assuming she HASN'T contributed? She could very likely be that high donation of $10k.

If she crowed about how much she donated, you'd totally roast her.

by Anonymousreply 16November 12, 2022 3:00 AM

R16, she sold her apartment for $50 million ON TOP of what she's already worth. It's not complete bullshit at all to put her net worth at 9 figures.

And she didn't contribute enough, if the $60 K goal hasn't even been met. And sure, Coppola should also contribute.

Any other questions?

by Anonymousreply 17November 12, 2022 3:10 AM

He was married to Marilu Henner for three years. She said he was very generous, giving $10,000 to someone who lost all his money in Vegas and sending boxes of expensive new clothes to Indian reservations. But he had many demons, including alcohol, and she said the marriage was "the worst mistake of my life" even though they had "an incredible sex life." After endless fights and drama she said they divorced amicably in 1983 and he eventually turned his life around.

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by Anonymousreply 18November 12, 2022 3:11 AM

I remember every single orgasm with him.

by Anonymousreply 19November 12, 2022 3:38 AM

And the date they happened.

by Anonymousreply 20November 12, 2022 3:39 AM

Some say love is like a GoFundMe page.

by Anonymousreply 21November 12, 2022 3:45 AM

R18 he looks like miles Turner.

by Anonymousreply 22November 12, 2022 3:48 AM

I remember some big donor solved all of Valerie Harper's caregiving needs at the end of her life. I wonder who it was. I think it might have been an anonymous Julie kavner at work.

by Anonymousreply 23November 12, 2022 3:56 AM

Well, R23, we know it wasn't Bette Midler.

by Anonymousreply 24November 12, 2022 4:01 AM

Well if she ponies up for Frederic, then she has to pony up for Ken.

by Anonymousreply 25November 12, 2022 4:05 AM

Ken?

by Anonymousreply 26November 12, 2022 4:06 AM

R23 Harper's husband mentioned two angels helping out. Speculation was that it was Mark Burnett and Roma Downey.

There was a gofundme for Dawn Wells and the organizer said she need extra money to get into one of the nursing homes affiliated with SAG. I think this was 2 or 3 years before she died.

Ernie Reyes Jr. who is a martial artist who acted in movies and TV shows had a GoFundMe years ago when he was undergoing dialysis and needed a kidney transplant.

by Anonymousreply 27November 12, 2022 4:18 AM

Fuck off, all of you! Bette donated $50 bucks.

by Anonymousreply 28November 12, 2022 4:23 AM

Anyone can qualify for Medicaid in-home care or nursing homes and the government pays for it, the trade off is they take all your assets when you die.

by Anonymousreply 29November 12, 2022 4:25 AM

Yes, r26, Ken...

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by Anonymousreply 30November 12, 2022 5:00 AM

What about him R30? Spit it out, like a trick's cum.

by Anonymousreply 31November 12, 2022 5:04 AM

Johnny Depp should kick in some dough; they were on 21 Jump Street together

by Anonymousreply 32November 12, 2022 5:05 AM

I've given $50-100 to total strangers on GoFundMe. That's less than the equivalent of multi-multi-multi-millionaires giving $100k to people they;ve worked with who are in desperate need.

by Anonymousreply 33November 12, 2022 5:09 AM

Among the donors: Stacy Keach, Don Johnson and Frank Langella.

AND Carol Ann herself, Rutanya Alda.

by Anonymousreply 34November 12, 2022 5:11 AM

Elliot Gould is listed as an organizer.

Thinking perhaps he gave one of the larger donations, anonymously.

by Anonymousreply 35November 12, 2022 5:15 AM

OP’s link says Elliott Gould raised…$50?

by Anonymousreply 36November 12, 2022 5:21 AM

R36 those notations are talking about the donations of others.

I assume from that note that of all the people Elliot may have emailed about this fundraiser, so far one has contributed, and donated 50 bucks. His own donation would not count.

by Anonymousreply 37November 12, 2022 5:25 AM

R34 “Carol Ann’s” actor husband Richard Bright—who died in the street like a fucking dog, hit by a tour bus—was friends with Forest.

by Anonymousreply 38November 12, 2022 5:27 AM

Coleen Camp gave $1,000. They were in Apocalypse Now together.

by Anonymousreply 39November 12, 2022 5:30 AM

One From the Heart

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by Anonymousreply 40November 12, 2022 5:35 AM

R30 Yeah, right. (insert Lucille Bluth eyeroll Bette absolutely hated working with Ken Wahl on the film "Jinxed". There were many stories about the two of them disliking each other back then.

by Anonymousreply 41November 12, 2022 5:37 AM

Bette, you really should donate something! I did.

This is not a game. His situation is precarious. You know the money's gone.

by Anonymousreply 42November 12, 2022 5:38 AM

That was sort of the sarcastic point, r41.

by Anonymousreply 43November 12, 2022 5:38 AM

These celebrities are so fucking cheap. Imagine the good press if one of them topped it off.

by Anonymousreply 44November 12, 2022 5:39 AM

Maybe Midler believes the bullshit that she's doing just as much as donating money (if not more) by her using her star name advertising his plight.

by Anonymousreply 45November 12, 2022 5:41 AM

She'd be wrong. I looked at this hours ago when she first put it up and the amount has barely changed. Finish it off, Bette, FFS. It's barely what you spend a month on therapy bills for Sophie.

by Anonymousreply 46November 12, 2022 5:44 AM

Someone start a thread telling Bette to donate so she gets a Google alert

by Anonymousreply 47November 12, 2022 5:45 AM

Freakin' cheapskates. The GoFundMe was started TWO MONTHS AGO and they haven't even raised half the amount yet...

by Anonymousreply 48November 12, 2022 5:47 AM

Midler is one of the most privileged people on the planet. She's a disgrace for not closing this GoFundMe campaign with $ as soon as she heard about it. Yuck.

by Anonymousreply 49November 12, 2022 5:49 AM

What did he spend his money on ?

by Anonymousreply 50November 12, 2022 5:53 AM

Lottery tickets, Rose.

by Anonymousreply 51November 12, 2022 5:54 AM

R50, are you saying he should be rich enough to afford round-the-clock caregiving, just because he was a movie actor?

by Anonymousreply 52November 12, 2022 5:56 AM

He certainly was yummy back in the day 😛

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by Anonymousreply 53November 12, 2022 5:59 AM

[quote]r6 why the hell should Bette Midler pay all the expenses for someone she worked with 40+ years ago? For a period of probably about 8 weeks or so.

Because he helped get her Oscar nomination for her debut in THE ROSE. If that film hadn’t worked, she’d never have made more. At least in starring roles.

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by Anonymousreply 54November 12, 2022 5:59 AM

Very sexy man

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by Anonymousreply 55November 12, 2022 6:02 AM

Hot piece in the day.

by Anonymousreply 56November 12, 2022 6:03 AM

Damn.In that pic he looks like he'd slap you,roll you over and pump you for 2 hours leaving you a sodden,heaping quivering wreck.

by Anonymousreply 57November 12, 2022 6:05 AM

I'm sure he would qualify for the Actors Fund home in Woodland Hills. They get people who qualify on Medicaid and then work out the rest. He must have a small pension, plus SS plus Medicare and the union's health plan's Advantage program. I understand people want to remain in their homes, but that's not always possible.

by Anonymousreply 58November 12, 2022 6:41 AM

I'll chip in five bucks but only if he voted for ME. Both times. And I'm going to need a receipt so I can turn it into the IRS. Write off, you know. Midler is a nasty nasty woman, if you can call her that. Diddler Midler (as I like to call her) has a long reputation of being cheap and stingy, still I'd let her kind do my taxes if you know what I mean. And I'm sure you do. Be sure to donate (me, not him) and you'll be first to hear my HUGE announcement. You know you want to. Who was this wise guy again?

by Anonymousreply 59November 12, 2022 6:50 AM

Bette certainly has the resources to foot the bill for any caregiving he'd need for the rest of his life—it'd be a drop in the bucket for her, truly. I agree that it's kind of weird for her to be sharing this and asking people to donate. Maybe she offered in private and the family wouldn't take it, but who knows?

by Anonymousreply 60November 12, 2022 7:11 AM

[quote]R58 I'm sure he would qualify for the Actors Fund home in Woodland Hills.

I’m sure they have a waiting list. It’s not like the minute you’re in need a taxi drops you off with your SAG card.

by Anonymousreply 61November 12, 2022 7:12 AM

R58, from the GofundMe: "Unfortunately, he doesn't qualify for any financial support from insurance or the government for this kind of care..."

by Anonymousreply 62November 12, 2022 7:22 AM

Thanks, Christine.

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by Anonymousreply 63November 12, 2022 7:23 AM

innocent typo, or backhanded bitchery?

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by Anonymousreply 64November 12, 2022 7:47 AM

What a strange thread.

People really are stupid.

1) She may have given money to help him. We don't know. It's not really any of our business. She used her power as a celebrity to spread the word.

2) She's under zero obligation to pay any of his medical bills. She's worked with thousands of people over the course of her career. Is she responsible for all of them?

3) Here's something worth bitching about...why we have a system in this country where people have to crowd fund to get adequate healthcare. That's the real thing to be horrified about and ashamed of.

by Anonymousreply 65November 12, 2022 8:12 AM

Movie Stars fir the most part are not billionaires. They make real money & are comfortable. But they don't have this endless pot of money the way Oprah or Spielberg does.

They're mostly upper upper middle class is how I see them, with a tone of money. But not endless $.

All the best to forrest!

by Anonymousreply 66November 12, 2022 8:44 AM

ACCUSED!!...1991...Bette accused Geraldo Rivera of groping her...She says he also stuck poppers under nose. ...link

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by Anonymousreply 67November 12, 2022 9:09 AM

VIDEO of Bette accusing Geraldo....(1 minute mark)...

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by Anonymousreply 68November 12, 2022 9:11 AM

If I were Bette I'd match donations dollar for dollar until the goal is met. That way everyone contributes, but no one takes on the entire burden

by Anonymousreply 69November 12, 2022 10:18 AM

[quote]Coleen Camp gave $1,000. They were in Apocalypse Now together.

They were also the hippie parents in Valley Girl.

by Anonymousreply 70November 12, 2022 11:09 AM

If he doesn’t qualify for any help under Medicare or insurance, how does anyone pay for care? I think R29 is correct, what he says is consistent with what we were told when my mother was dying.

I suspect that Forest has heirs that want to keep his estate intact (even if it’s small) and get other people to pay for the care. If it were just a matter of him being desperate to stay at home and wanting to decline funded institutional care, I’d be more sympathetic. So I don’t blame Midler for not taking care of it.

by Anonymousreply 71November 12, 2022 11:40 AM

It didn't say what kind of care he needs (part-time or round-the-clock care) but if someone needs round-the-clock care and can't afford it, he would be better off in a nursing home, especially if he's near the end of life.

In California 20 hours/week in-home care costs $2513.00/mo. If he requires 24/7 care the monthly cost would likely be north of $20 grand/month. I doubt a go-fund-me is going to raise that kind of money.

by Anonymousreply 72November 12, 2022 12:15 PM

[quote] [R34] “Carol Ann’s” actor husband Richard Bright—who died in the street like a fucking dog, hit by a tour bus—was friends with Forest.

Then she probably should have donated that whopping $25 anonymously? Just saying.

by Anonymousreply 73November 12, 2022 1:32 PM

"She may have given money to help him."

R65, the goal was a measly $60k. Yes, she should give all of that. No one here was saying she should pay for everyone she's ever worked with. But if she's making it a point to advertise his plight, then clearly he's unique to her heart or whatever, and she should do the decent thing and pony up what for her is absolutely nothing.

And yes, the American healthcare system is awful.

by Anonymousreply 74November 12, 2022 2:30 PM

R63, I agree that also makes Lahti look like a phony cunt. Best to say nothing at all on social media than just say "thoughts and prayers" especially if you have no intention of contributing to the person whose plight you're "so sorry" to hear about.

by Anonymousreply 75November 12, 2022 2:36 PM

[quote] If he requires 24/7 care the monthly cost would likely be north of $20 grand/month. I doubt a go-fund-me is going to raise that kind of money.

The GFM text says that the goal is intended to raise enough for 6-8 months of care.

Which makes me wonder if this is more of a hospice situation.

by Anonymousreply 76November 12, 2022 2:44 PM

Some points to clarify-

1- Forrest wants to be at home, and needs 24/7 care, which neither private insurance nor Medicare pays for.

2- He seems to be at the end stage of his life, which is why they are asking for $60K. That would fund 3 months of at home health care.

3- He has no children.

4- He absolutely would not get into the MPFT home in time enough. They have a large backlog.

5- Bette didn't offer any sort of monetary link in her tweet, so what was Lahti supposed to do? We only knew there was a GFM because one of us went and found it.

by Anonymousreply 77November 12, 2022 2:45 PM

R77, since Lahti was made aware, she could easily dig up that GFM for him. I'm aure she knows how to do a search.

by Anonymousreply 78November 12, 2022 2:47 PM

This thread is too depressing. All of the people who knew and worked with him.

by Anonymousreply 79November 12, 2022 2:49 PM

Obviously Bette midler realizes it would be selfish if she just paid all of his expenses and didn't allow the rest of us plebeians the opportunity to support him.

by Anonymousreply 80November 12, 2022 2:53 PM

R80, we're the wind beneath her wings, which are made of money.

by Anonymousreply 81November 12, 2022 2:54 PM

Someone tweeted the GFM link to Bette several hours before Lahti’s tweet.

In any case, her “mountains of TLC” is so Frau it’s worth our scorn alone.

by Anonymousreply 82November 12, 2022 2:55 PM

Totally agree, R82. Was Lahti cradling a mug when she uttered her sentiment?

by Anonymousreply 83November 12, 2022 2:57 PM

I’ll bet he introduced Marilu to anal.

by Anonymousreply 84November 12, 2022 3:01 PM

And she never looked back (so to speak), R84.

by Anonymousreply 85November 12, 2022 3:02 PM

R77, I feel like the GFM dances around that, instead of being upfront and presenting the way you do in (1). Which just makes it seem sketchy.

by Anonymousreply 86November 12, 2022 3:06 PM

It's hard to believe that someone who had a relatively successful acting career and made more money than most of us ever will, needs a gofundme.

I guess he never saved any money for something like this. No one stays healthy forever.

I do wish him well, though, and I'm sorry to hear he is in such poor health. I just don't understand where all that money went that he now needs to a gofundme to survive.

by Anonymousreply 87November 12, 2022 3:07 PM

I’m a cheap, selfish bastard who doesn’t know how GFM works. Can you donate a mere $1 as “Bette Midler”?

by Anonymousreply 88November 12, 2022 3:07 PM

He's a character actor who hasn't worked regularly since 2002. Why on earth would you think he has a lot of money?

by Anonymousreply 89November 12, 2022 3:08 PM

Why should it be her responsibility because we have the shitty healthcare…if you can even call it that, in the US

by Anonymousreply 90November 12, 2022 3:10 PM

R90, congratulations for missing the point completely.

by Anonymousreply 91November 12, 2022 3:11 PM

I recently saw him as one of the detectives in "The Deliberate Stranger" and thought that must've been quite a comedown. And that was almost 40 years ago. Thanks for posting this, just donated.

by Anonymousreply 92November 12, 2022 3:20 PM

[quote] It's hard to believe that someone who had a relatively successful acting career and made more money than most of us ever will, needs a gofundme.

I doubt he ever made "a lot of money."

He may have been paid well for a few of his larger films, but actors see about 20-30 percent of their total pay if they're lucky (after taxes, agent fees, etc.)

He also struggled with drugs and alcohol so I assume some of it went down his throat and/or up his nose.

But only a small percentage of actors make multi millions. There was something about Dianne Wiest not long ago - talented, busy actress, award winning, no addictions or issues, and she had either sold or was about to sell her home because her budget couldn't sustain it any more. I mean, Dianne fucking Wiest, folks.

by Anonymousreply 93November 12, 2022 3:23 PM

People think that they'll be healthy forever, never saving a little each month for when something like this happens and then they need to rely on the kindness of acquaintances and strangers to help them out financially.

Let this be a lesson to all us regular folk who never made the kind of money an actor makes and doesn't have the kind of co-workers who can drop $1000 -$5000 in a gofundme account for your end of life care.

by Anonymousreply 94November 12, 2022 3:41 PM

[quote] regular folk who never made the kind of money an actor makes

Someone has decided to dig in on a very erroneous assumption.

by Anonymousreply 95November 12, 2022 3:42 PM

No matter how much anyone squirrels away, R94, it will never be enough when it costs $10k-20k a month for a nursing home or caregivers. The system is the problem.

by Anonymousreply 96November 12, 2022 3:53 PM

Yeah, actors may sometimes pull down a nice buck when they’re working, but they have more weeks than not out of work.

by Anonymousreply 97November 12, 2022 4:00 PM

Once you deplete your assets, you get care. How hard is that to understand? He wants to choose a specific type of care - one on one, in-home care 24/7. That’s more than four full time, 40 hour salaries, hopefully for people who are paid a living wage and are able to get their OWN insurance.

by Anonymousreply 98November 12, 2022 4:08 PM

Depleting your assets is a hell of a way to get care. Yes, you have to let hem take all of your money (even your house) if you go into a nursing home. We all understand that, R98. Are you suggesting that's as it should be? The best the richest country in the world can scare up as a system for their sickest and oldest?

by Anonymousreply 99November 12, 2022 4:12 PM

Well, you can’t take it with you, so I don’t think it’s the worst system possible.

by Anonymousreply 100November 12, 2022 4:15 PM

No, R100, you can't take it with you, but you should be able to leave something to your family.

by Anonymousreply 101November 12, 2022 4:17 PM

It's a pretty shitty system in general, R100.

by Anonymousreply 102November 12, 2022 4:18 PM

[quote] The GFM text says that the goal is intended to raise enough for 6-8 months of care. Which makes me wonder if this is more of a hospice situation

No one expected to live 6-8 months would be accepted into hospice care. That kind of care is for people who are at the very edge of life.

by Anonymousreply 103November 12, 2022 4:27 PM

Was hospice care even mentioned in the GFM?

by Anonymousreply 104November 12, 2022 4:28 PM

It was not.

Which is why I said [quote] makes me wonder

by Anonymousreply 105November 12, 2022 4:32 PM

Most families of people who have to go on nursing home Medicaid plan far enough in advance so they can transfer all assets to someone else in the family. I have an old friend who died a year ago in hospice care after being in a nursing home for a few months. He had transferred everything, including the $800 thousand he'd received from the sale of large plot of land a few years before, to his son 2 years before when he became ill with cancer and was told he had no more than a year to live (which he beat by a year). His nursing home bill was $7200/mo. All the nursing home got from him was all but $50.00/mo of his monthly social security. Medicaid paid the rest. He was allowed to keep no more than $2000.00 in his checking account at any time to qualify for nursing home Medicaid.

by Anonymousreply 106November 12, 2022 4:40 PM

Did Henner chip in? She has Hallmark money!

by Anonymousreply 107November 12, 2022 4:47 PM

^ She was going to, but she forgot 😏

by Anonymousreply 108November 12, 2022 4:50 PM

[quote]Frederic Forrest also worked with Coppola many times. Should he pony up, too?

According to Marilu, it was Francis that got him back on alcohol when they had a pre-production dinner for the movie they were all working on. Francis swore if he just had one mouthful, he wouldn't get addicted. Marilu thought it was a bad idea, but Fred went and did it.

by Anonymousreply 109November 12, 2022 5:48 PM

Well maybe Matthew Perry could help him out.

by Anonymousreply 110November 12, 2022 6:21 PM

R109 for what film and what exact date and hour did this happen?

by Anonymousreply 111November 12, 2022 6:31 PM

John Cleese paid Terry Thomas’ caretaking bills at the end of Thomas’ life.

by Anonymousreply 112November 12, 2022 6:32 PM

[quote]3) Here's something worth bitching about...why we have a system in this country where people have to crowd fund to get adequate healthcare. That's the real thing to be horrified about and ashamed of.

Yep, it's a revolting problem, but clearly not to younger people! In this current election 73% of Gen Z, the majority of whom are likely still on daddy's health insurance, couldn't be bothered to show up and vote at all! I was hoping they'd vote in numbers to demand more change here.

This social media scold-monster David Hogg, the self-anointed political spokesman for the high school gun massacre in Florida is swanning around like a king maker, while Gen Z voter participation actually FELL from 2018, and his home state of Florida where the deaths took place wildly underperformed Dems nationwide! To conclude this is a real problem to younger people at least is not supported by numbers at all.

by Anonymousreply 113November 12, 2022 7:36 PM

Thoughts and prayers (but not money).

by Anonymousreply 114November 12, 2022 7:37 PM

What do you fags want? I'm taking care of six highways!

by Anonymousreply 115November 12, 2022 7:49 PM

you tell 'em Bette!

by Anonymousreply 116November 12, 2022 8:10 PM

How are his kidneys?

by Anonymousreply 117November 12, 2022 8:16 PM

I got tired of reading the crazy posts about halfway through the thread, so maybe this has already been said. Bette Midler probably did give money, but not through the gofundme page. That page is for people who do not have the personal contact info of the guy. She does. There is no reason for her to use that page.

All the people calling her cheap for not giving are the cheap ones. They want someone else to contribute, so they don’t have to.

by Anonymousreply 118November 12, 2022 8:45 PM

Shelley Long better not need Money for medical expenses.

by Anonymousreply 119November 12, 2022 8:50 PM

An anonymous donor gave $10,000.00...very nice. To be honest, I haven't heard about him in years....thought he might have already passed.

by Anonymousreply 120November 12, 2022 9:10 PM

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by Anonymousreply 121November 12, 2022 9:18 PM

It's funny how Oprah brings the focus back to her right away.

by Anonymousreply 122November 12, 2022 9:21 PM

Oprah put herself on the cover of every fucking issue of her magazine except for one. She is always ready for her close-up.

by Anonymousreply 123November 12, 2022 9:47 PM

[quote]If she crowed about how much she donated, you'd totally roast her.

Or, she could discreetly pay his expenses without breathing a word to anyone about anything.

by Anonymousreply 124November 12, 2022 10:40 PM

Frankly, I thought he was already deceased.

by Anonymousreply 125November 13, 2022 12:49 AM

R103 Hospice has changed. Doctors sign a document that states the person has a terminal illness and life expectancy can be 6 months. And sometimes that can be extended to 12 months. So hospice is covered by Medicare and most insurance,

by Anonymousreply 126November 13, 2022 12:53 AM

I would’ve ate his ass.

by Anonymousreply 127November 13, 2022 1:07 AM

R127, You’re a whore.

by Anonymousreply 128November 13, 2022 1:18 AM

"Frederic has been ill and in and out of the hospital and rehab facilities for the past several months. He is finally home, where he wants to be, but he lives alone and needs constant care."

"We need to make sure Frederic has round-the-clock caregivers seven days a week."

Not to sound unkind but thousands of other Americans are in same position requiring similar needs. Many if not most worked hard all their lives and now find themselves near destitute and suffering from serious health issues.

Can understand people wanting to help one of their own, but many also should raise their voices loudly to force changes at federal and local government level to change things across board.

by Anonymousreply 129November 13, 2022 1:24 AM

I read Marilu Henner's book ages ago, and it was wild. She either fucked or fantasized about fucking the men she worked with. I still remember the opening portion where she says she embarrassed Sting on The Tonight Show by saying she would orgasm to his Bring on the Night Album.

She got tons of primo cock back in the day as well.

by Anonymousreply 130November 13, 2022 1:29 AM

Spending down to qualify for Medicaid is not simple, in fact it's rather complicated and things vary by state.

Some states have rather favorable and generous terms (New York is one, surprise surprise), others are comparatively miserly.

Those contemplating such a move should seek out competent and experienced professional guidance.

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by Anonymousreply 131November 13, 2022 1:33 AM

How New York State rolls...

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by Anonymousreply 132November 13, 2022 1:33 AM

Still more...

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by Anonymousreply 133November 13, 2022 1:36 AM

I hope that cheap cunt ends up in Delores Del Rio's prop wheelchair, shitting herself while the ugly daughter is out spending her millions.

by Anonymousreply 134November 13, 2022 1:37 AM

Even if sources are believed, Bette Midler only has a net worth of $250 million USD. That however in no way implies the woman has huge sums of money lying about spare in cash.

Net worth is total value of one's estate minus debts. Assets included in estate (aside from cash of course) are estimated values, they may or may not bring in sums given when sold. That poor bastard who ran FTX went to bed a multi billionaire and next day was flat broke taking many down that rabbit hole as well.

Better Midler is nearly 80, and it's highly likely much of her (and husband's since we're talking about a marital estate), assets have been arranged to suit rest of their lives and whatever provisions have been made for their daughter.

Could Ms. Midler peel off one million or so in aid of Frederic Forrest? Probably, but as others have noted why should or would she? The moral hazard of going down that route would leave her open to any and everyone the woman worked with professionally looking for a soft touch.

by Anonymousreply 135November 13, 2022 1:51 AM

[quote]In this current election 73% of Gen Z, the majority of whom are likely still on daddy's health insurance, couldn't be bothered to show up and vote at all!

That's not even true, this years' election had a 30% increase in youth voter turnout from previous years, it was about 31%. And a lot of Gen Z aren't old enough to vote, the range is 1997-2012.

by Anonymousreply 136November 13, 2022 1:54 AM

If I was terminally ill I'd want someone to give me something to Speed it along.

by Anonymousreply 137November 13, 2022 2:02 AM

R135 I highly doubt if Bette Middle is worth $250MM that she has a 100% illiquid asset concentration in her portfolio. To compare her to the FTX dude is a poor analogy. She likely earns in interest the $60k Frederic needs while she is sleeping.

by Anonymousreply 138November 13, 2022 2:11 AM

"Or, she could discreetly pay his expenses without breathing a word to anyone about anything."

Well yes, Ms. Midler or anyone else could do that, but there are tax consequences either way.

Giving money to a charity counts as a tax deduction with generous limits. OTOH simply giving money to an individual counts under purposes of gift tax, which though currently rather generous does have limits.

by Anonymousreply 139November 13, 2022 2:13 AM

Or how about a great big HUG, r137? Bring it in!

by Anonymousreply 140November 13, 2022 2:23 AM

Cher has given more than that to complete strangers. Bette is a cheap cunt. Ugly AF too.

by Anonymousreply 141November 13, 2022 2:27 AM

Long story short gist of this GFM thing is that Frederic Forrest wants to age in place (or in this case die at home), so begging cap is being passed around in aid of that wish.

Good luck with that... Just finding competent home health aides will be challenging enough, and best won't come cheap.

by Anonymousreply 142November 13, 2022 2:28 AM

R130 didn’t she supposedly hook up with “Johnny travolta?” We may have to question some of her conquests.

That said, it sounds exactly like the type of smutty celebrity bio I would want to read.

by Anonymousreply 143November 13, 2022 2:47 AM

R93, "I mean, Dianne fucking Wiest, folks."

Dianne who?

For gawd's sake, she lived in a high-end apartment and got press coverage when she wasn't finding roles. Within months she had a recurring role for the next four years on a television series. And has done films during this period as well.

All this despite the fact she hadn't been in a hit film in 25-30 years.

by Anonymousreply 144November 13, 2022 3:23 AM

"For gawd's sake, she lived in a high-end apartment and got press coverage when she wasn't finding roles"

Like many other actors Diane Weist moved into a pre-war UWS rental when getting was good. Located at Broadway and 79th the building is hardly "high end". That would be the Althorp across street.

See DM link below...

by Anonymousreply 145November 13, 2022 5:20 AM

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by Anonymousreply 146November 13, 2022 5:21 AM

R144

Diane Wiest may not have been in a hit film for ages, but she's no where near destitute. In fact a clarification was issued after story broke about the lady might have to move out of NYC because couldn't afford rent.

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by Anonymousreply 147November 13, 2022 5:24 AM

R135, I read your post and laughed uproariously, beginning with: "Even if sources are believed, Bette Midler only has a net worth of $250 million USD. That however in no way implies the woman has huge sums of money lying about spare in cash."

"Only"!

Andyes, that absolutely DOES imply the woman has huge sums of money lying about spare in cash.

You sound like one of her lawyers, especially with "The moral hazard of going down that route would leave her open to any and everyone the woman worked with professionally looking for a soft touch."

Hunty, no one thinks she's capable at this point of "the moral hazard" of being even remotely generous of parting with a mere $60,000. And she's hardly in danger of looking like a soft touch.

by Anonymousreply 148November 13, 2022 6:01 AM

R143

Have at it...

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by Anonymousreply 149November 13, 2022 6:05 AM

So what happened to all the money he made as an actor? He has no health insurance? He's penniless?

by Anonymousreply 150November 13, 2022 6:11 AM

Few to nil health insurance plans will pay for in home long term care.

There is or was Long Term Care insurance, but that market has changed over years. Companies soon realized policies written were going to take them to cleaners, so they cut back offerings, canceled plans, etc... What LTC plans that do exist often cost plenty for what coverage they do provide. Hence so many seeking to pay down assets and get Medicaid.

Frederic Forrest likely isn't destitute, at least have not seen anything saying as much. Rather like so many other Americans he cannot afford to self pay for long term/end of life care. This especially since apparently it seems Mr. Forrest wishes to live out his days at home and not in some sort of institution or facility.

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by Anonymousreply 151November 13, 2022 6:17 AM

[quote]r118 All the people calling her cheap for not giving are the cheap ones. They want someone else to contribute, so they don’t have to.

We don’t know him personally. She on the other hand is rhapsodizing about how much she loves and admires him.

So of course she should put her money where her goddamn mouth is. Not expecting virtual strangers to do it.

by Anonymousreply 152November 13, 2022 6:17 AM

Average cost of round clock in home care in USA runs about $15k *per month*. Few aside from very wealthy can afford to pay those sums out of pocket.

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by Anonymousreply 153November 13, 2022 6:18 AM

Anecdotal evidence, but I know several people worth far less than Bette that keep $50k plus in their checking accounts at all times. One, $100k.

I call BS. She easily could gave chipped in the remaining and probably still find a tax loophole.

by Anonymousreply 154November 13, 2022 6:22 AM

Contributing to charity is always a tax write-off.

by Anonymousreply 155November 13, 2022 6:27 AM

But it has to be a recognized non-profit charity, not a friend or former coworker in need.

by Anonymousreply 156November 13, 2022 6:31 AM

In this case it isn't charity, but I still think Bette could figure it out and if not pay the fucking taxes.

by Anonymousreply 157November 13, 2022 6:32 AM

Marilu said she and Travolta met on the national tour of "Grease," lived together in New York for a year, and dated on and off for a total of 13 years.

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by Anonymousreply 158November 13, 2022 6:34 AM

Oh, no, R156--will Bette make it if she can't write it off as a tax break?! Thoughts and prayers--for Bette!

by Anonymousreply 159November 13, 2022 6:36 AM

This is exactly why there gave been so many nasty comments about Bette in various threads.

Cheap with money, cheap with emotions.

by Anonymousreply 160November 13, 2022 6:39 AM

]quote] Marilu said she and Travolta met on the national tour of "Grease," lived together in New York for a year, and dated on and off for a total of 13 years.

And in all that time she never suspected he was gay? Despite her "total recall memory" she sounds like an idiot. She's also pretty slutty. Just another dumb Hollywood slut, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 161November 13, 2022 6:42 AM

Maybe he is bi and she didn't care. Doesn't make her a slut.

by Anonymousreply 162November 13, 2022 6:44 AM

[quote] Doesn't make her a slut.

Read her memoir. She really liked the cock.

by Anonymousreply 163November 13, 2022 6:53 AM

So, don't you?

by Anonymousreply 164November 13, 2022 7:11 AM

". She really liked the cock."

Don't we all?

by Anonymousreply 165November 13, 2022 7:13 AM

According to DL, you are either a cunt (Midler), a Frau (Lahti) or a whore (Henner).

by Anonymousreply 166November 13, 2022 7:21 AM

Joan always wins: she was all three.

by Anonymousreply 167November 13, 2022 7:25 AM

I'm sure he would rather die in his own home, but maybe Bette could accommodate him in her place in Hawaii, LA or upstate NY. Unless her fat ass occupies all of them at once.

by Anonymousreply 168November 13, 2022 7:26 AM

Marilu Henner had Tony Danza as well.

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by Anonymousreply 169November 13, 2022 7:35 AM

Marilu Henner ought to have auditioned for role of Sizzling Shelby Stevens!

Talk about life imitating art.

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by Anonymousreply 170November 13, 2022 7:38 AM
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by Anonymousreply 171November 13, 2022 7:40 AM

He was married to Marilu Henner for a bit.

(She could provide the dates, time, and what the had for breakfast each morning.)

by Anonymousreply 172November 13, 2022 9:07 AM

[quote]He was married to Marilu Henner for a bit.

Wow, this is BRAND NEW INFORMATION!

by Anonymousreply 173November 13, 2022 9:21 AM

R173 Why be a bitch?

by Anonymousreply 174November 13, 2022 9:38 AM

^ Did you forget where you are?

by Anonymousreply 175November 13, 2022 9:41 AM

If a performer is able to take advantage of those who would contribute to a GoFundMe in their time of need , I think it's great. Quite simply, they've touched many lives, this is a simple way for fans to say thanks.

by Anonymousreply 176November 13, 2022 4:55 PM

For fans to say thanks, but I guess not uber-rich co-stars.

by Anonymousreply 177November 13, 2022 5:36 PM

He was a friend of my husband’s but I WAS NOT ONE OF HIS FANS!!!

(hence, the $25.)

by Anonymousreply 178November 13, 2022 5:48 PM

Marilu Henner had Primo Judd Hirsch right after she lay with Tony Danza in the first season. It's all in her book. Somehow Randall Carver was safe.

by Anonymousreply 179November 13, 2022 6:30 PM

[quote] Did you forget where you are?

I won’t forget the where or the when!

by Anonymousreply 180November 13, 2022 6:42 PM

I think calling Marilu Henner a slut is rudeand sexist. The term is mattress-back.

by Anonymousreply 181November 13, 2022 6:46 PM

R12 That photo. "I'm so fortunate!"

by Anonymousreply 182November 13, 2022 6:46 PM

Would you rather be the Heat or the vision in a relationship trope? I think it would be more flattering to be the heat myself. Apparently Frederick Forrest had skills that the other one did not. But he is the father of her children so there must have been some heat.

by Anonymousreply 183November 13, 2022 6:47 PM

Daniel Massey too. Love it. Get it while you're hot.

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by Anonymousreply 184November 13, 2022 6:48 PM

Marilyn Henner is super lucky. She can remember any lay in vivid detail any time she wants. She can relive 1970s and 1980s sex every day if she wanted to “go there.”

by Anonymousreply 185November 13, 2022 6:49 PM

*Marilu. Stupid autocorrect and lack of an edit button. Sorry, I need to die in a grease fire! :(

by Anonymousreply 186November 13, 2022 6:51 PM

Marilu Henner does not eat Dairy.

by Anonymousreply 187November 13, 2022 6:51 PM

Marilu should donate at least $20 per orgasm. C’mon!

by Anonymousreply 188November 13, 2022 6:58 PM

R183, I understand there are no children from either of his marriages (and thereby reducing his home care options).

by Anonymousreply 189November 13, 2022 7:02 PM

They never gave Randall Carver a a chance to wrap up his character properly. Hollywood can be ruthless.

by Anonymousreply 190November 13, 2022 7:03 PM

Bette posted the GFM link! It only took her two days but the donations are rolling in, 12 so far!

by Anonymousreply 191November 13, 2022 7:03 PM

Randall Carver didn’t put out, so he had to get out!

by Anonymousreply 192November 13, 2022 7:04 PM

@r184, Well, duh 🙄

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by Anonymousreply 193November 13, 2022 7:06 PM

Good gawd, leave it to Bette Midler to make it all about herself. Barf.

by Anonymousreply 194November 13, 2022 7:11 PM

Do you know how many actors, famous or not, do exactly that, R194? It's appalling. I was wih one just last night.

by Anonymousreply 195November 13, 2022 11:36 PM

Has Marilu donated yet?

by Anonymousreply 196November 14, 2022 2:05 AM

I don't think celebrities have to provide an acccounting report. They might donate in private.

This is like the thread on Valerie Harper's Go Fund Me, where some queen was livid because he thought Lucie Arnaz lowballed it.

by Anonymousreply 197November 14, 2022 2:19 AM

Susan Dey? Anything?

by Anonymousreply 198November 14, 2022 2:25 AM

Did Marilu hook up with Jeff Conaway too? Seems like she really is Pepper McMasters.

by Anonymousreply 199November 14, 2022 2:29 AM

R197, it's the self-serving tweets from Bette that are annoying. Maybe she is helping him. It came out that Cher paid Val Kilmer's medical bills, so who knows?

by Anonymousreply 200November 14, 2022 2:54 AM

R196 she was married to him. I put the obligation level of that above “co-star.” Has she even commented?

by Anonymousreply 201November 14, 2022 3:01 AM

[quote]This is like the thread on Valerie Harper's Go Fund Me, where some queen was livid because he thought Lucie Arnaz lowballed it.

Lucie gave more than Sandy Duncan.

by Anonymousreply 202November 14, 2022 3:14 AM

Susan Bug-Eyed Cunt Sarandon gave $500.

by Anonymousreply 203November 14, 2022 3:25 AM

Speaking of Lucie, she's been radio silence since Bette tweeted about FF. You would think with all her ILL money, she could shell out for the expenses of FF. She has more money than all of them put together, which explains why she turned down such star-making roles as Rizzo in Grease, Jade in Endless Love and the Kim Basinger role in 9 1/2 Weeks.

by Anonymousreply 204November 14, 2022 3:25 AM

I love The Rose. Great movie. I love the scene where Bette's character follows Frederic who is trying to hide in a gay male bathhouse.

by Anonymousreply 205November 14, 2022 3:32 AM

I always got Frederick Forrest confused with John Pleshette from Knots Landing.

by Anonymousreply 206November 14, 2022 3:35 AM

[quote] I love The Rose. Great movie. I love the scene where Bette's character follows Frederic who is trying to hide in a gay male bathhouse.

That movie was so ridiculous. IT was loosely based on Janis Joplin. The very semitic looking Bette Midler, with her brassy Broadway voice, playing a Texas blues/rock singer? It was laughable. Her version of "When A Man Loves A Woman", which was released as a single, was awful. Forrest was good in the movie, though. So was Harry Dean Stanton, who played a small role as a country music singer who tells the boozy, druggie, slutty Rose he doesn't want her to do cover versions of his songs anymore.

by Anonymousreply 207November 14, 2022 4:09 AM

R204, Lucie isn't that wealthy and has a fraction of Bette's money. She didn't inherit anywhere near the amount of money that people thought. Lucy admitted selling ILL for $5 million was a huge mistake.

by Anonymousreply 208November 14, 2022 4:17 AM

God I hate when people talk out of their asses. Lucie richer than Bette? You must be joking by probably $200 million.

by Anonymousreply 209November 14, 2022 4:29 AM

Why is it all on Bette Midler? Though good number of cast from "the Rose" are dead, some are still living.

Mr. Primus did get ball rolling, but still if people are going to hold Ms. Midler accountable for someone she acted with over forty years ago....

Suppose it's what things come down to in many families or close network of friends; person or persons with most wealth are expected to be quite generous.

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by Anonymousreply 211November 14, 2022 4:36 AM

[quote]R210 Why is it all on Bette Midler? Though good number of cast from "the Rose" are dead, some are still living.

Because she’s the one who opened her yap and got mileage out of saying he needed help on social media.

It’s not like if there had just been some random article about his health the world would be demanding, [italic]”Where’s Bette Midler??!!”

by Anonymousreply 212November 14, 2022 4:41 AM

R87

Unless Frederic Forrest has or had major money (we're talking excess of five or so millions), long term health issues can deplete even most solid finances.

If FF has been ill for long period of time, in and out of hospital and so forth that costs money. Insurance does not pay for everything 100%, there are out of pocket costs that must be paid somehow.

FF hasn't worked in the business since 2006. Much of his career from 1980's through 2000's was as a jobbing actor, good amount of television and some film work. Thus FF likely made a decent enough living for an actor, but we're not talking about Tom Cruise or Dwayne Johnson sort of wealth.

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by Anonymousreply 213November 14, 2022 5:10 AM

R208, Lucille Ball’s estate was valued at $22 million.

Lucie Arnaz is currently recovering in Palm Springs from knee replacement surgery and COVID.

by Anonymousreply 214November 14, 2022 8:43 AM

Bette is a cheap, ugly cunt. Widely disliked, for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 215November 14, 2022 8:46 AM

@r214, The Lucy and Desi licensing rights that Lucie and Desi Jr. inherited are worth many times the $22 million they originally got. Every time you see a dumb souvenir, toy, picture, movie or anything with their face on it the Arnez kids are making money. Multiply that by the 30+ years they've been selling them, well, you do the math

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by Anonymousreply 216November 14, 2022 10:24 AM

Actually big money is in the I Love Lucy show franchise, which is owned by CBS/Viacom.

As of 2012 "I Love Lucy" show was brining in about $250 million per year.

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by Anonymousreply 217November 14, 2022 10:32 AM

"I Love Lucy" Licensed Properties is taken quite seriously by CBS/Viacom.

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by Anonymousreply 218November 14, 2022 10:33 AM

Depending upon whom one believes, Lucille Ball's estate was valued at around $60 million at time of her death.

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by Anonymousreply 219November 14, 2022 10:37 AM

@r218, Included in that link is is "Desilu Too" and "Unforgettable Inc." which are Lucie and Desi Jr.

"We have a company called Desilu Too where Lucie and I police any merchandise. We've been doing it since they passed away. We work with a company out of Chicago called Unforgettable Inc. We needed to have help to police and license the merchandise." - Desi Arnaz Jr.

They're loaded

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by Anonymousreply 220November 14, 2022 10:54 AM

Lucie, is a lovely person. But a frau to the max, just like her mother. I've been to her place in Palm Springs. Nothing grand, crap furniture from her mother and you wouldn't look at her twice.

by Anonymousreply 221November 14, 2022 11:05 AM

[quote]Susan Bug-Eyed Cunt Sarandon gave $500.

Fucking cheap Bernie sis cunt. She could given a bit more or is she supporting her weirdo daughter and grandkids?

by Anonymousreply 222November 14, 2022 3:25 PM

R221, Burt Reynolds fucked her.

by Anonymousreply 223November 14, 2022 5:20 PM

Stalling at bit over $33k. They need more large donations, getting to $60k by small amounts is possible, but may take some time.

by Anonymousreply 224November 16, 2022 3:58 AM

Lucie really needs to step up to the plate and pay off FF bills, it's embarassing at this point.

by Anonymousreply 225November 16, 2022 6:31 AM

Getting closer! Up to $44,986 so far...

by Anonymousreply 226November 17, 2022 5:27 AM

Barry Primus seems to be doing much of the legwork, his team brought in $21,211 from 148 other donations.

Helen Sanders OTOH has only been able to raise $11,230 from 17 donations so far.

Only about $15k left to raise, will they do it in time?

by Anonymousreply 227November 17, 2022 5:30 AM

Not if Bette can help it.

by Anonymousreply 228November 17, 2022 5:52 AM

Bette was read to filth on Instagram, and actually replied to someone. The whole "people were asking" is a very Trump like BS answer.

I don't know FF, but if I was in his position I would prefer someone that was a friend with incredible wealthy helping me, rather than to have the world know I was broke. Let the guy keep his dignity.

by Anonymousreply 229November 17, 2022 7:30 AM

^^ exactly!

“My talented, cherished, beloved friend is dying by the side of the road because he’s poor and never became a huge star like me… won’t you help?”

by Anonymousreply 230November 17, 2022 7:41 AM

R229

We don't know FF is "broke". He's been ill for some time and in and out of hospital or rehab. Even with good to best insurance that alone sucks up good amount of money.

This fund raiser is in aid of Frederic Forrest basically doing what only very well off manage in USA; live out his days at home with 24/7 care.

Those destitute enough to receive Medicaid in most states often qualify for 24/7 care if only a home help aide. This of course would vary by diagnoses and other factors.

Wealthy then and still today can afford an army of round clock professional or licensed nurses, aides, etc.... Even if they're only used to fetch and carry.

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by Anonymousreply 231November 17, 2022 8:47 AM

What Frederic Forrest lacks is that other prime provider of home health care; adult children, grand children, a spouse or any other family.

by Anonymousreply 232November 17, 2022 8:50 AM

R231, Fuck off. Bette is the still ugly and cheap Jewess she's always been.

by Anonymousreply 233November 17, 2022 9:27 AM

I can't believe that Susan Sarandon only gave $500. I wonder if Frederic Forrest is aware that his fellow actors aren't exactly rushing to help him.

by Anonymousreply 234November 17, 2022 3:18 PM

R234, Cheap bitch!

by Anonymousreply 235November 17, 2022 3:25 PM

He was always so handsome, but I can never remember which film (theatrical or TV-produced) I know him from best…

by Anonymousreply 236November 17, 2022 3:29 PM

R236, He played Ann-Margret’s husband in the acclaimed television movie “Who Will Love My Children?”.

by Anonymousreply 237November 17, 2022 3:33 PM

I think I know him from The Deliberate Stranger (1986) with Mark Harmon as Ted Bundy.

by Anonymousreply 238November 17, 2022 3:36 PM

Bette has ALWAYS been a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 239November 17, 2022 3:45 PM

[quote] I hope that cheap cunt ends up in Delores Del Rio's prop wheelchair

Who?

by Anonymousreply 240November 17, 2022 3:52 PM

It's up to $45,000.

by Anonymousreply 241November 17, 2022 3:56 PM

Lucie Arnaz donating a mere $100.00 to Valerie Harper’s GFM was embarrassing.

They had a bit of a connection. Valerie was in the Broadway chorus of Wildcat with her mother and Lucy presented Valerie with her first Emmy Award.

Valerie always spoke highly of Lucy and participated in her Kennedy Center Honors segment in 1986.

by Anonymousreply 242November 17, 2022 4:03 PM

[quote]Unfortunately, he doesn't qualify for any financial support from insurance or the government for this kind of care, so it's up to us, his friends, to make sure he has the care he needs in his home.

Well, it seems the people looking into getting this actor the help he needs, seem clueless.

Many wealthy and middle class people are actually eligible for at home care which is covered by Medicaid. Wealthy and middle class people can, and do, legally move their money and other assets (most wealthy people and middle class people usually own a home, a co-op or a condo) into a trust and then are easily eligible for managed at-home care.

A relative, a millionaire, has been in one these programs for about 3 years. These programs cover the home aides care and any needed supples. When I see these GoFund me pages for people who need this level of care, it seems the family and even friends of these people do not know how to navigate government help when it comes to medical issues.

In fact, when my father was briefly in a nursing home for re-hab after surgery, one of his roommates was a man who owned four apartment buildings and his own home, the man simply transferred all his assets into a trust for his three children. This man was on full Medicaid.

In fact, you don't even have to be on full Medicaid to get at-home care. If you are retired and was able to carry on your health insurance and have Medicare, Medicaid, will cover the at home program. You other insurance plans usually cover the rest, again, it depends on your plans.

If a person's SS and pension are over the ceiling monthly amount allowed for this type of care, they might have a small amount to pay for the care, say around $500 a month. This is much less than paying $4000-$5000 a WEEK and that's just for the home aides, especially if the person needs 24/7 care. At homeland term care sure beats being in a disgusting nursing home.

Eligibility for these Medicaid covered programs also depends on what state the person needing the care lives in. Many red states have not expanded Medicaid.

by Anonymousreply 243November 17, 2022 4:32 PM

At home long term care sure beats being in a disgusting nursing home.

by Anonymousreply 244November 17, 2022 4:37 PM

At home 24/7 care will certainly be much more costly than $60,000. Does Frederic need 24 hour round the clock care?

The GoFund me page doesn't explain what the target amount is supposed to cover.

by Anonymousreply 245November 17, 2022 4:42 PM

R243

This link was posted above, but am doing so again speaking to your thread.

Yes, spending down to qualify for Medicaid is possible for even those well off, but has to be done correctly.

Also states are given leeway in how such spending down rolls. If things aren't done correctly in either case state can come after heirs to recoup funds spent on Medicaid.

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by Anonymousreply 246November 17, 2022 5:00 PM

See also:

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by Anonymousreply 247November 17, 2022 5:00 PM

Or,

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by Anonymousreply 248November 17, 2022 5:00 PM

Any number of people could have quietly supported him. To publicize it is disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 249November 17, 2022 5:01 PM

Finally,

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by Anonymousreply 250November 17, 2022 5:03 PM

Seems those Medicaid reimbursement laws sure don't apply in NY state, especially for a Medicaid recipient's relative who inherits less than one million. Most of these people who put their money and assets into trusts need to hire an eldercare lawyer who helps them navigate the system. Believe me, wealthy peoples families are not reimbursing Medicaid. At least not in NY state.

The only fee a person would have to pay is they have monthly surplus. In NY state, a Medicaid recipient who has at-home care covered by Medicaid, cannot bring in more than $900 month. For a fee of about $50 a month, you must join a pooled trust. The Medicaid recipient, or their relative, will tell the pooled trust what bills they want the trust to pay. The pooled trust then takes the amount out of the person's checking account to pay the specific bill or bills. The pooled trust has nothing to do with setting up a trust which contains the person's assets, the pooled trust is completely a separate situation. This a lot to navigate and if the elderly ill person doesn't have a family member to help, things get dicey.

Do you realize how many people are on Medicaid in NYC? Not just the elderly in nursing homes and those receiving at-home care. Many of these New Yorkers on Medicaid work off the books and are walking around with $300 sneakers. Don't get me started.

One of my relative's home aides is on Medicaid herself! Not sure how she manages this, as she gets paid $20 an hour., she earns around $1000 a week, way over the ceiling amount for Medicaid coverage. I have to wonder, is the home aide agency paying this aide half on the books, half off? Lots of these home aide agencies are extremely corrupt and shady, for instance, homes aides are not allowed to work more than 40 hours week, this aide works over 40 hours. Most of the home aide salaries are covered by Medicaid. These agencies depend on Medicaid to survive.

This aide, with overtime, actually makes over $50,000 a year, has an expensive iPhone, has a few LV bags and well, she should not be getting Medicaid and food stamps, but she does.

by Anonymousreply 251November 17, 2022 6:20 PM

[quote]Yes, spending down to qualify for Medicaid is possible for even those well off, but has to be done correctly.

What I posted has nothing to do with spending down one's assets. I do know, there is now a longer look-back period for ill people who need permanent nursing home stays. It's now about 5 years. look-back on all assets. For at-home care, there was formerly only a one month look-back for at-home care programs. Not sure what is now.

Covid sure changed Medicaid laws, especially in NY state. Medicaid laws in NY became more lenient. For example, people on Medicaid, who only have Medicaid for their health insurance and are not in any kind of nursing facility or have at-home care, were automatically reinstated and didn't have to fill out their yearly renewal forms.

Personally, I don't know one person, who inherited a relative's estate, that had to reimburse Medicaid for their late relative's care.

Also, since most healthcare plans only cover up to100 days for nursing home care, smost nursing homes apply for Emergency Medicaid for their patients. These patients obviously weren't smart enough to move their assets before they needed this level of care. The nursing home social workers step in to apply for Medicaid for their patients who need to remain in these nursing homes.

Those linked Medicaid articles do not seem to apply to NY state residents.

by Anonymousreply 252November 17, 2022 6:33 PM

Another anonymous donation for $10k made yesterday. That accounted for huge jump in total sum which is now at $45,171.

by Anonymousreply 253November 18, 2022 5:56 AM

Good. They were looking for approximately $60k, or something like that?

Come on, cheapskate movie stars, chip in and don't make this man beg publicly any longer.

by Anonymousreply 254November 18, 2022 6:10 AM

Hope they got numbers correct, because once this ship sails would be embarrassing to go back and ask for yet more money.

I mean what if FF lives another year or more?

by Anonymousreply 255November 18, 2022 6:22 AM

Thanks everyone for helping my dear friend Freddie.

by Anonymousreply 256November 18, 2022 6:24 AM

"Do you realize how many people are on Medicaid in NYC?"

(Raising hand in great agitation...)

Sir! Me! I know the answer!

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by Anonymousreply 257November 18, 2022 6:28 AM

NYS is a world onto its own when it comes to Medicaid.

We spend more than any other state in union (including California), but results are mixed.

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by Anonymousreply 258November 18, 2022 6:30 AM

If Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos gave Frederic Forrest some of their spare change there wouldn't need to be that GoFund Me page! They could pay all of Frederic's bills for the rest of his life and it wouldn't hurt either of them. They wouldn't even realize the money was spent.

I cannot stand those two miserable smug ultra rich creeps.

by Anonymousreply 259November 18, 2022 10:23 AM

You ain't getting eighty-eight cents outta me Rose

by Anonymousreply 260November 18, 2022 11:44 AM

Elliot Gould only raised $480 from 10 donations? I call that pretty feeble.

Couldn't he hit up ex-wife Barbra Streisand for a small donation to a worthy cause?

by Anonymousreply 261November 19, 2022 2:53 PM

If I do nothing else in my life, I will always have the honor of being the 'crazy queen' that thought Lucie Arnaz was cheap.

by Anonymousreply 262November 19, 2022 3:29 PM

R259, the same could be said for Bette. She is his friend, the other 2 probably don't even know who he is.

by Anonymousreply 263November 19, 2022 8:35 PM

Totally agree with you, R229.

"Bette was read to filth on Instagram, and actually replied to someone. The whole "people were asking" is a very Trump like BS answer."

That's how she replied? She's a bigger cunt than I thought.

by Anonymousreply 264November 19, 2022 8:39 PM

Cunts gonna cunt!

by Anonymousreply 265November 19, 2022 9:11 PM

Bezos just donated $100 million to Dolly for her various organizations - so he gets a pass from me.

by Anonymousreply 266November 19, 2022 9:16 PM

Bezo is still a douchebag. Bezos calls his workers "lazy", doesn't allow them enough bathroom breaks, doesn't want a union, basically, he's an all around creep.

So glad Amazon was driven out of Long Island City, Queens NY. Bezos lied about "helping the community". He initially Bezos claimed he'd be offering engineer jobs "starting at $150,000" to working class members of the LIC community, he then backtracked saying he couldn't guarantee that Amazon would train young people from the surrounding projects.

Take, take, take, make more billions, accept tax abatements, instead of helping the areas of where he wants to plan his next "fulfillment center".

Of course, Bezos wanted that $45 million NYC tax abatement! Meanwhile, working stiffs property taxes go up every year in NY state.

Mr. Wonky Eyes also "needed" a helicopter port on his LIC Amazon building. Fuck that guy. I despise Amazon. Talk about ruining small businesses as well as long established businesses.

by Anonymousreply 267November 19, 2022 9:26 PM

How many billionaires aren't pigs? At least he donates. Many don't.

by Anonymousreply 268November 19, 2022 9:30 PM

[quote]R253 Another anonymous donation for $10k made yesterday.

It would be funny if the donor listed themselves as [bold]Not Bette Midler

by Anonymousreply 269November 19, 2022 9:43 PM

"At least he donates. Many don't."

Not true at all.

Philanthropy is one of the largest and best deductions wealthy in USA and many other countries have to lower tax bills including final estate taxes.

They may not give to causes that benefit charities of your choice, but wealthy do donate a bulk of such funds including setting up foundations and trusts.

Mr. Jeff Bezos recently announced intends to give away nearly or all of his fortune before he dies or will dispose of same via various mechanisms after death.

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by Anonymousreply 270November 20, 2022 2:04 PM

Slowly creeping up, at $45,881. This is all in drips and drabs, no more large donations to date.

Maybe over Thanksgiving holiday people will put the squeeze on others they know to pony up.

by Anonymousreply 271November 20, 2022 4:10 PM

Sure, Bette can put the squeeze on people to donate, and can thank herself for doing God's work by using her fame on behalf of her dear, dear friend, Fred Forrest.

by Anonymousreply 272November 20, 2022 4:12 PM

[quote] Maybe over Thanksgiving holiday people will put the squeeze on others they know to pony up.

“Oohhhhh - Black Friday sales!”

by Anonymousreply 273November 20, 2022 4:16 PM

Helen Sanders has pulled up her socks and is closing in on Barry Primus. Elliot Gould OTHO still lags a far behind third.

Helen Sanders - Raised $11,740 from 19 donations

Barry Primus - Raised $12,090 from 13 donations

Elliot Gould - Raised $605 from 12 donations

by Anonymousreply 274November 23, 2022 1:54 PM

R274. I wonder how much of the $605 Elliot got from Barbra. I’m guessing $5.

by Anonymousreply 275November 23, 2022 2:30 PM

Either Elliot Gould just doesn't really give fuck, or his circle of friends and acquaintances are rather tightfisted.

by Anonymousreply 276November 23, 2022 3:31 PM

Well, don't look to me, Dolores. All my money is tied up in cash.

by Anonymousreply 277November 23, 2022 3:32 PM

When you think about it that its taken this long to raise a rather puny amount (by Hollywood/entertainment world standards), shows how much that industry takes care of its own.

Many did their best am sure, but that not 60 persons can be bothered giving $1k each, a sum many spend on a meal, clothing, latest gadget, bauble, or whatever in a day, says something.

by Anonymousreply 278November 23, 2022 3:36 PM

Elliott couldn't get $500 from Jason? Why did he even sign on to help if he didn't bother to network his friends with money? Barbra probably has the 60k as petty cash in the mall.

by Anonymousreply 279November 23, 2022 9:01 PM

R274 is why I love you bitches.

by Anonymousreply 280November 24, 2022 1:16 AM

What’s the cutoff date for making the In Memoriam segment at the 2023 Oscar ceremony?

by Anonymousreply 281November 24, 2022 5:04 AM

Maybe they can pass the hat on Oscar night and finally reach the goal...

by Anonymousreply 282November 24, 2022 5:05 AM

Barry Primus has raised twice as much with just one more donor than Elliot Gould. I call that a very feeble effort on latter's part. I mean why bother signing on for a cause if that is best one can do? It's too shame making.

by Anonymousreply 283November 24, 2022 5:25 AM

[quote] Elliot Gould is listed as an organizer. Thinking perhaps he gave one of the larger donations, anonymously.

Yes, keep thinking that. Please.

by Anonymousreply 284November 24, 2022 5:32 AM

I offered Elliott my “Marcus Welby” residuals.

by Anonymousreply 285November 24, 2022 5:33 AM

Don't believe any of Frederic Forrest's former cast mates from "21 Jump Street" are in any position to be very generous. Well maybe Johnny Depp...

Holly Robinson Peete and her husband are always on MeTv flogging some sketchy stuff. Michael Bendetti hasn't had a role seems since 1995.

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by Anonymousreply 286November 24, 2022 5:47 AM

What is Frederic suffering from?

by Anonymousreply 287November 24, 2022 5:59 AM

He’s suffering from Bette Midler’s stinginess.

by Anonymousreply 288November 24, 2022 6:08 AM

A nudge tweet from the Rose.

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by Anonymousreply 289November 24, 2022 6:41 AM

Would Bette do the same for Ken Wahl?

by Anonymousreply 290November 24, 2022 6:44 AM

Bette needs to give it a rest. She's looking even more foolish and cheap than usual.

by Anonymousreply 291November 24, 2022 7:01 AM

R287 Probably multiple health issues that plague older people.

by Anonymousreply 292November 24, 2022 7:04 AM

Next she’ll be tweeting how her dear, dear friend, that remarkable artist Barbara Hershey, needs $5 from each of her followers.

by Anonymousreply 293November 24, 2022 7:34 AM
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