[QUOTE]Hispanic voters put down narratives of a rightward shift, with Democratic candidates in Hispanic districts largely doing well. “That’s because Latinos rejected MAGA, period. MAGA is toxic to Latinos,” said Dem operative Kristian Ramos.
Latinos Stick With Democrats
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 28, 2022 10:56 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 24, 2022 3:32 PM|
Dems used to get 88% of Hispanic vote. This election it was 63% still fine but a major reduction. If Latinos were so firmly Dem, Texas and Florida wouldn't be solid red states. Even Miami voted for Repubs this cycle.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 24, 2022 3:43 PM|
Latinos arent one bloc. Cubans are something else though, think they are white and “european”.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 24, 2022 3:47 PM|
Cubans have never been a Democratic demographic. As the Cuban community has grown in size, the percentage of Latinos voting Republican has grown too because Cuban representation has grown.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 24, 2022 3:51 PM|
Are Cubans considered Latino? They probably check “White” on the census forms.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 24, 2022 3:53 PM|
For voting purposes, I believe the US uses "Hispanic" and not "Latino," so yes, Cubans would be considered Hispanic. Hispanic means from both Latin America and Europe.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 24, 2022 4:25 PM|
Cubans are the only Latinos voting Republicunt consistently. If the Dems are losing brown votes then they need to dig deep and figure out why.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 24, 2022 4:25 PM|
Dems are losing Latino support. They need to face that reality and do better.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 24, 2022 4:40 PM|
Not Cubans. I say this as someone of partial Cuban ancestry. Some of my relatives in Florida and Texas identify as white and want nothing to do with their browner relations. Racist as fuck and hardcore Republicans. I despise them.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 24, 2022 4:46 PM|
Some of these “Hispanics” look whiter than white people. They’ll soon be absorbed into whiteness like the Irish and Italians.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 24, 2022 4:52 PM|
[Quote]Are Cubans considered Latino? They probably check “White” on the census forms.
They do check White. So do many Puerto Ricans. But they're still considered Latino in the United States, even if they don't agree with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 24, 2022 4:54 PM|
"I'm White! WHITE!!!!"
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 24, 2022 5:00 PM|
You can be Latino and White since on the census Latino/Hispanic is considered an ethnicity not a race.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 24, 2022 5:17 PM|
[quote] Dems used to get 88% of Hispanic vote
I think this was due to the Obama era. Prior to that, I don't think the numbers were anywhere near that.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 24, 2022 5:26 PM|
This reminds me of the fact that American muslims were actually majority Republican prior to 9/11. A lot of people don't remember that but it's crazy how many things we take for granted today were different just a few decades ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 24, 2022 5:27 PM|
Hispanics are considered to be white.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 24, 2022 5:31 PM|
That corrupt, cunt judge alone solidifies their community as trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 24, 2022 5:31 PM|
It's insane to me that the Rs want to double-down on the Klansmanism and immigration hatred when they could actually do quite well with immigrant communities.
There's zero reason conservative Catholic Mexicans or well-to-do Asians or the Pakistani owner of a chain of restaurants should vote Democratic.
But they do because the Rs are such flaming racists.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 24, 2022 5:34 PM|
DL, if you say anything about Black people you are racist. Yet threads of hate towards Latinos and Asians is always acceptable and even encouraged. Liberal hypocrisy.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 24, 2022 6:51 PM|
Historically, most Latinos have identified as white. This is not new. Latino is an ethnicity, not a race. Everyone should know this by now
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 24, 2022 6:58 PM|
[quote]As the Cuban community has grown in size, the percentage of Latinos voting Republican has grown too because Cuban representation has grown.
how cute, growing?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 24, 2022 7:06 PM|
✅️ 74% of Latinos in Florida are non-Cuban.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 24, 2022 7:12 PM|
You think if this Brazilian guy moved over here, he’d be considered Hispanic?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 24, 2022 8:10 PM|
There is the intractable debate over whether Brazilians are Hispanics. They are Latin
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 24, 2022 8:11 PM|
[quote] Dems used to get 88% of Hispanic vote. This election it was 63% still fine but a major reduction. If Latinos were so firmly Dem, Texas and Florida wouldn't be solid red states. Even Miami voted for Repubs this cycle.
[quote] I think this was due to the Obama era. Prior to that, I don't think the numbers were anywhere near that.
President Obama won 67% of the Latino vote in 2008 and 71% in 2012. Hillary won 66%. Generally speaking, Democrats win around 90 percent of the Black vote, 70% of the Latino vote and 40% of the White vote.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 24, 2022 8:41 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 24, 2022 8:56 PM|
42% of latinos in Texas voted Abbott
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 24, 2022 9:00 PM|
Gov. Ron DeSantis won 58% of the Latino vote, including 68% of Cuban Americans, 56% of Puerto Ricans and 50% of all other Latinos combined, according to the NBC News exit poll.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 24, 2022 9:01 PM|
“In 2012, internal National Organization for Marriage memos dating to 2009 were released that stated that they sought "to drive a wedge between gays and blacks" by promoting "African American spokespeople for marriage", thus provoking same-sex marriage supporters into "denouncing these spokesmen and women as bigots", and to "interrupt" the "assimilation" of Latinos into "dominant Anglo culture" by making the stance against same-sex marriage "a key badge of Latino identity.”
I think the right wing has gone so far to the right that the wedge campaign propaganda is cracking. You can’t recruit people from an opposing party at all if your totality of views are extreme.
It’s the same way with feminism and the trans wedge. They had a very strong propaganda campaign going, but it’s going to crack because it has become abundantly clear that their majority view is not feminist.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 24, 2022 11:35 PM|
r28 Aren't exit polls only about election day voters ? If yes, don't they miss a lot of early and vote by mail voters , who are predominantly democrats ?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 25, 2022 1:01 AM|
I'm wondering, however, about younger Cubans - I had thought they would be far less identified as Republicans than ones over say 40?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 25, 2022 1:08 AM|
That’s not really happening
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 25, 2022 1:50 AM|
You're exactly right, r14. Obama had huge numbers of Latino voters, followed by Clinton in his second term, and Dukakis.
The Latino voting bloc loves the incumbents, and the only time that hasn't been true in recent memory is with Bush the first, who they hated. They voted overwhelmingly for Dukakis.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 25, 2022 10:49 AM|
Overpaid, useless Latino consultants desperately trying to keep their jobs with the DNC right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 25, 2022 10:59 AM|
Please list the threads/posts that are flamingly racist against Asians and Latinos on the DL, R19
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 28, 2022 2:51 PM|
The person who keeps spamming the board with anti-black racism claims to care about crime reduction but is actually engaging in activities that are likely to make the situation worse.
One, he posts these broad statements about “most white people being law abiding” while implying that most black people aren’t working and are committing crimes, which isn’t true. The total percentage of black people employed in the US is about 60 percent, which is lower, but not much lower, than other ethnic groups. And about 36 percent are employed in professional jobs, about 18 percent below the poverty line.
As to how racism will make the situation worse, if the legal system (police) is tainted by racism, it makes it harder for the general public to accept it at its word. Testimony that would otherwise hold up in court becomes questionable. You could be much more effectively anti-crime if you were not racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 28, 2022 4:39 PM|
R5 Seems like the "Latinos: White or Not? The enduring question." discussion happens on DL at least once a month. What is the deal with DL's obsession with whiteness?
The census long ago adjusted to the complexity of the question: black or white, and Hispanic or not, are two distinct questions... adjusting to the reality of being latino and identifying as white and latino and identifying as black.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 28, 2022 4:52 PM|
Also the statistics only show people being over represented or under represented relative to their percentage of population numbers. The statistics do not show that the “majority of black people commit violent crimes” just that the percentage- which is not the majority- is higher than for other ethnic groups.
The spamming of crime articles and nothing else is a propaganda campaign. Are you going to intersperse your crime articles with stories about black guys that got a Purple Heart in the military or work at your local bank or car dealership?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 28, 2022 4:53 PM|
Funny how the same people who endlessly shilled for the "red wave" also told us over and over and over that [bold]OMG LATINOS ARE TURNING REPUBLICANZ!11![/bold]. And we're discussing this seriously like it's anything besides a boilerplate GOP election year talking point.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 28, 2022 5:43 PM|
[quote] If the Dems are losing brown votes then they need to dig deep and figure out why
A good start might be to stop assuming all Latinos are “brown” and lumping them in as one monolith if “black and brown”
Latino is an ethnicity not a race. One can be Latino and be blonde/blue eyed all the way to dark dark brown with full African features, or anywhere in between including various mixtures with First Nations/Mestizo.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 28, 2022 8:38 PM|
DeSanctimonious won because of his opponents, not because he was a good candidate that they support. Crist was an ex-Republican with an anti-abortion anti-gay past, which alienated Dems and Independents. And he chose a running mate that Cubans didn't like because of her praising Castro.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 28, 2022 10:44 PM|
Dems treating latinos as one voting bloc will be their downfall with that group. Puerto Rican’s, Cubans, and Mexicans all have different concerns and yes some of them align with republicans. Everybody knows Cubans are largely scared of dems due to repub messaging conflating dems with communism, but what may shock dems is people from PR and yes even Mexican immigrants largely DO NOT CARE about dems messaging of the border (and that is the largest Latino message dems have...). PR has a problem with Dominicans using PR as a stepping stone to the US and people from PR are already US citizens so they don’t care about the border message, and many Mexican immigrants don’t like dems border message because they feel like they “did it right” and others should have to wait and “do it right” themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 28, 2022 10:56 PM|