For as popular as he was when he was alive, Steve McQueen has completely faded in popularity

Forgettable. I was born in the 1980s and I don't even know who he is.

He seems to be a favorite of straight guys, albeit a relatively obscure one. He was featured in Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Sheryl Crow did make a song about him. Though it flopped on the charts.

I loved him in Love With A Proper Stranger - he had great chemistry with Natalie Wood. He looked great in his rumpled raincoat. …. And Towering Inferno is a can’t miss.

No iconic role or movie that is still relevant today.

McQueen had unbelievable screen presence and was a big deal back in the 60s and early 70s, but his movies aren't culturally significant. Except for the chase scene in Bullitt, which is iconic. I can't remember a single line of dialogue he delivered.

That's the fate of most celebrities, especially ones from the world of entertainment.

And, the majority of people born after about 1980 or so have little to no interest in anyone or anything that was important before they were born.

OP is already forgotten and he's not even dead yet.

For the same reason someone popular in 1910s or 1920s cinema wasn’t relevant during McQueens heyday. Dumb thread.

R7 I don’t know if it’s that necessarily true. A lot of younger people are into Paul Newman.

Thomas Crown Affair, Papillon, Bullitt, The Great Escape...

Another one or two, which wouldn't be bad to have four, five, six good films, except they're films that fell out if favor for one ir another reason.

He was a big thing when I was a kid, but obviously there was a generational pull st the time. He was a tough guy, with chip on his shoulder, arrogance, a name-caller, obsessed with his masculine tough guy image (didn't Kenneth Anger call him out for putting tampons in his asshole for all his stunt scenes?). As a kid I confused him with Sinatra, an asshole whose time had come and gone but who stuck around like a bad smell wanting attention.

His cool, his style, it didn't have lasting power in his own lifetime.

I remember he was a proponent of thick turtlenecks under sportcoats and his eyes were kinda buggy.

Wife beater. Mean drunk.

R9 Well, not quite. The difference is, the majority of adults in the country in the 1960s when McQueen became a star were very much aware of WHO those stars of the past were. Chaplin and Lillian Gish and Valentino and Gloria Swanson were all names we knew, even as kids.

The difference is, people born prior to 1980 grew up with old pop culture being a part of our lives....we had the Late Late Show showing us old movies from long before we were born.

After 1980, cable tv came along with its 100 channels and computer/video games and kids no longer grew up with having "old" shit as one of your few entertainment sources. Why watch old movies when you could play video games 8 hours a day?

R10 I think "Paul Newman" for most younger people is the guy on the salsa/salad dressing bottle or pop corn box.

And, if there are young Paul Newman fans out there, then they should also know McQueen from watching Towering Inferno.

Big pussy hound. Voted for Bush.

[quote]Why do you think that is?

For one thing, McQueen has been dead for 42 years. Also, although he made some popular movies in his day, most aren't considered classics today. Natalie Wood has been dead for almost 41 year, but she made a number of classic films, including "Miracle on 34th Street," "Rebel Without a Cause," John Ford's "The Searchers" and "West Side Story."

I know the name and that he was an actor, but virtually nothing else about him. And I like a lot of old movies, too.

When I think of Steve McQueen I picture him on the motorcycle in Great Escape

Anyone into fast cars knows who Steve McQueen is. He was the Paul Walker of his era

R20 I feel like James Dean and Paul Newman are synonymous with fast cars than McQueen is.

[quote]After 1980, cable tv came along with its 100 channels and computer/video games and kids no longer grew up with having "old" shit as one of your few entertainment sources.

R14, this is diametrically incorrect.

More "kids today" are aware of old movie stars and music acts than ever—they have limitless exposure to them through cable, YouTube, online and streaming sources.

Back before 1980, if you were a kid, you knew what you saw was currently playing in the movie theater, on three TV stations, and that was it.

@r21, You're entitled to your feelings 🙄

R23 It’s not feelings it’s the truth. Dean and Newman are way more relevant than McQueen is.

He also rode a mean motorcycle and did most of his own stunts

Even though he’s not really iconic I think that scene of McQueen on the motorcycle is pretty iconic. I’ve seen it so many times.

Elmo Lincoln isn't talked about much today either. Quite strange actually.

Brad Pitt, this is your future

He had a keen sense of cool that doesn't seem fake or put on...

Marcia understood him...

The Great Escape was set during WW2 so it can never get old and McQueen was at his best in it. That will be the one he'll be remembered for.

^ I saw it as a kid and was totally blown away by it and Steve McQueen

Sheryl Crow had one big hit and everything else was a flop R3.

Is there anything smoother than Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway in the Thomas Crown Affair?

Says it all...

He was an ugly little troll. Even in The Blob, when he was relatively young, he looked like he was in his forties.

^ You should be so ugly 😂

Mmm, I'd like me some ugly troll 😛

Imagine, an attention starved troll starting a troll thread, and then getting upset when people post positive remarks...

Would drain his cock morning, noon and night, in the hole of his choosing.

Didn't really have the goods.

Just a little farther, Steve...

That's it...

Epitome of bi.

He couldn't act. That's why.

^ I wish. Bet he was a great fuck 😜

He didn't need to act. Nobody went to his movies for the great acting

Who is more faded in popularity, Steve McQueen or Warren Beatty? I say Beatty.

His looks were very much of his time. He always looked older than his age, scowled a lot, seemed a bit vapid, and was more of a personality than an actor, because he really could not act to save his life. That's fine, a lot of stars are more personality than talent, but it does mean your persona will become more dated as time moves on, and eventually no one will even remember who you are.

@r48, Beatty was pretty, McQueen was cool

He looked like your trashy but hawt older cousin. A few beers away from letting you blow him.

He had a rough childhood.

He could've ripped my ass apart on the regular.

His films simply don't have the enduring love that other films from the era he was working do.

Some of them have minor cult followings (The Blob, The Getaway and a couple of others) but even they will fade away into obsurity.

M. are you reading this thread?

McQueen had the final scene in The Great Escape and the film had an all-time great score by Elmer Bernstein. His memory is safe.

[quote]Who is more faded in popularity, Steve McQueen or Warren Beatty? I say Beatty.

LOL!

Not true, R7.

The Magnificent Seven. Classic.

This British bloke appropriated his name!

Why wasn't he forced to alter his name?

The golden age of movies and celebrities would be irrelevant and forgotten today, if it wasn't for TCM and other old movie channels.

[quote][R10] I think "Paul Newman" for most younger people is the guy on the salsa/salad dressing bottle or pop corn box.

That is not true. Are any DLers friends with straight guys?

A lot of them know/enjoy THE HUSTLER and its sequel THE COLOR OF MONEY, HUD, COOL HAND LUKE, BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID, THE STING, SLAP SHOT, and ROAD TO PERDITION.

I'm 60. I remember him. Often from films before my time. Steve McQueen was handsome, masculine, rugged but not too (can be gussied up), lithe, dirty blonde, blue eyes. I was always attracted to this type.

I loved his sister Butterfly.

My favorite McQueen movies are: Bullitt, The Thomas Crown Affair, Love With The Proper Stranger and The Cincinnati Kid. He was very cool.

[quote]Back before 1980, if you were a kid, you knew what you saw was currently playing in the movie theater, on three TV stations, and that was it.

When I was growing up there were no cable/satellite networks on TV, there were only local stations. Some carried the 3 networks, some were independent (like UHF stations). I think we had about 7 local stations, then since we were near another state, we got their stations.

There was a lot of local programming and a lot of it was old movies. From the 30s through the 50s. Most of us did grow up watching them. Most of us knew the old stars, like Bogart, Cary Grant, W. C. Fields, Gary Cooper - and actually many were still working and we'd see them in new TV shows and specials, or at the movies. Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, John Wayne, Katharine Hepburn, Anthony Quinn, Bette Davis, etc.

The local stations had old movies playing all the time, they even had shows like Dialing For Dollars that featured movies.

The Great Escape and Bullitt are endlessly shown on different cable channels. He still has recognition. His own career evaporated in the 70s. He wanted to make serious films like "An Enemy of the People"--people didn't want to see that and he was getting to old and had been drug addled for awhile. His personal also was a little out of step for that era---Dirty Harry, Butch Cassidy, etc. Films were either less subtle or more whimsical with their anti-heroes. He's luckt to have a thread given that his career ended in hos own era almost 50 years ago.

Not a good actor? Maybe. But he had loads of charisma and sex appeal. Magnetism. Whatever you want to call it.

After he died, Paris Match published a photo of his cancer ravaged corpse.

When I was a little boy, two times I walked alone to the local movie theatre in my leafy NYC suburb to watch Le Mans at the weekend matinee. I was mesmerized by the otherworldliness of this bizarre racing event and the testosterone captured on the screen.

By the time Jimmy Carter was President he was washed up.

R70 you mean he was no longer successful.

@r58, "The Magnificent Seven. Classic. "

Yep...

He's the cool guy that poseurs like to name when they don't want to say James Dean or Clint Eastwood.

While he did some classic stuff, you really have to love "film" rather than movies to know his work.

He died just at the beginning of the blockbuster era of movies that really began with Jaws in 1975. He starred in cult classics, but no blockbusters that had huge popular appeal.

"Don't pay any attention to them, Steve, those little homosexual boys follow me everywhere"

I think my favorite scenes in Bullitt are the car chase (of course)....and when McQueen walks into a restaurant to join a group of people. The jazz music in that scene, with the dark ambiance...seemed so San Francisco at the time. I loved that music. The waiter hands McQueen a menu, and accidentally hits him in the eye...McQueen laughs it off. It really happened and they kept it in the movie.

The chess scene with the kiss, in The Thomas Crown Affair, is one of the sexiest scenes in movies.

@r75, Yep...

[quote]While he did some classic stuff, you really have to love "film" rather than movies to know his work.He died just at the beginning of the blockbuster era of movies that really began with Jaws in 1975. He starred in cult classics, but no blockbusters that had huge popular appeal.

Do you just make shit up? He was in many movies that were big hits. The Great Escape, The Cincinnati Kid, Bullitt, The Thomas Crown Affair, The Getway, Papillon, The Towering Inferno. He was a superstar of the 60s and 70s, like Newman< Eastwood, and Redford.

I didn't particularly like him but his movies were everywhere if you grew up in that era.

McQueen did all of the driving in that Bullitt scene R77. No stuntmen, I think.

....or stunt drivers...^^

Wait, Steve McQueen is dead? I thought he became an noteworthy fashion designer.

[quote] He died just at the beginning of the blockbuster era of movies that really began with Jaws in 1975. He starred in cult classics, but no blockbusters that had huge popular appeal.

I beg your pardon!

"He died just at the beginning of the blockbuster era of movies that really began with Jaws in 1975. "

You win...

"As good is my witness I'll never be stupid again" - Miss Scarlett, blockbusters of 1939

^ *God* 🙄

Death will do that do you.

Yes, Steve McQueen was a superstar in the late '60s/early '70s.

He made Quigley's annual list of Top 10 Movie Stars (which determined the bankability of film actors) every year from 1967 to 1974:

- 1967 at #10

- 1968 at #7

- 1969 at #3

- 1970 at #3

- 1971 at #4

- 1972 at #8

- 1973 at #3

- 1974 at #5

The Towering Inferno was the highest-grossing film of '74, but then he only did 3 more movies afterward, two of which were released the same year he died (1980),

I don't know much about his personal life, so I'm guessing his career suddenly stalled because he got sick.

He hasn't, OP.

Posting threads for quarters? Things that bad for you?

R86 Wow, those cult classics with little popular appeal must have been more popular that we thought!

I always discounted McQueen as a faux-macho, tough-guy asshole, and it's a pretty accurate characterization of the persona he sought to project. But I very recently looked him up on Wikipedia and read his bio there. The guy had an almost unbelievably hard life growing up, orphaned, abused in more than one family setting, incarcerated in youth detention centers, etc., and this was all originated in circumstances that he had absolutely no control over. It is totally no wonder how anyone with his background would have been uptight, defensive, "selfish," mean, etc. And he had a really short life, especially for a man who had the money to afford the very best medical treatment available at the time. The lung cancer that killed him was not from excessive smoking and drinking, as I had once believed, but rather he had mesothelioma, which was almost certainly caused when he had been in the Navy and was ordered to work scraping asbestos coating off of ships. None of this makes him seem like any better of an actor, or course, but he filled a spot for a kind of character that there was big demand for in '60s movies. I gained a lot of after-the-fact respect for the guy knowing more about his life. He also did some surprisingly generous things in his life for others, which he NEVER advertised or brought up.

At least one role of his will live on.

The Reivers. I forget the plot but I think it was told through the eyes of a 12 year old kid, based on a Faulkner story?

DLers WHO SHART OUT ANY COCKAMAMIE BULLSHIT THEY PULL OUT OF THEIR ASSES should be banned.

[quote]The lung cancer that killed him was not from excessive smoking and drinking, as I had once believed, but rather he had mesothelioma, which was almost certainly caused when he had been in the Navy and was ordered to work scraping asbestos coating off of ships.

And what it had been from excessive smoking and drinking?

Would you tend to look down on him for that, and feel he was a much less admirable person? R89

^I merely meant that the "tough living" image he projected was widely considered to have been the cause of his young downfall, but it turns out that that was not correct. No moral judgment on my part implied.

McQueen brought a gun to Jay Sebring’s funeral, fearing there might be an incident there caused by those who murdered Sebring, Sharon Tate, etc., who had yet to be captured.

[quote] Sheryl Crow did make a song about him. Though it flopped on the charts.

Who is Sheryl Crow?

Prefab Sprout named their second album after him, this was in 1985. The record company thought this would be too confusing for American audiences, so the album was titled Two Wheels Good for the US release.

......

Saw on tv he actually was a real life hero, when he was in the marines he saved alot of men from a ship

R43, Did Ali rim that gorgeous ass?

^ Pretty sure Ali did whatever he told her to do 😜

If Ali MacGraw hadn’t left her studio head husband for McQueen we’d have had to suffer through her performances in CHINATOWN and THE GREAT GATSBY.

So, thank you, Steve.

Because that was almost 50 years ago, and everyone today has about a 90-second attention span. Might as well be Harold Lloyd.

^Not really. It's more like if *you* had been obsessed with Harold Lloyd in 1972. The idea is kind of silly, actually. I'm amazed at kids today listening to music that was popular in the 1970s - it's equivalent to me having been listening to Rudy Vallee when I was a teenager. The idea seems hilarious.

The 1970s are now fifty years ago. By then, films/TV/photography were in living color.

In the '70s, "fifty years ago" was the 1920s, still the silent film era.

Those of you who were teenagers in the '70s, the '20s must have felt like ancient history.

I wonder if teens today think of the '70s as such?

I was a teen in the '90s (1993-1999) and I remember the '60s looked so ancient because a lot of the news footage/movies were in black-and-white.

He annoys.

R96, Jay Sebring was not only Steve McQueen’s barber, he was also his drug dealer.

Between the 20s and the 70s was the Depression, WWII, Korea, The Cold War, Vietnam, the JFK, RFK and MLK assasinations. Transatlatic flight, around the world flight, space flight, radio, TV, computers. The 20s seemed like another century by the 70s. The 20s probably seemed like ancient history even in the 50s.

*transatlantic

If Steve McQueen had done a musical, he’d be remembered today.

^ He was set to do Mame, but Gary talked him out of it 🙄

R112 Or if he was the subject of a musical.

Why a musical?

He had a hot ass, but he couldn't live forever.

Saw the thread title and thought Alexander McQueen.

I had opinions.

When he died he stopped making movies.

R22 You are an idiot.

1) Pre-1980 our TV options might just be 3 channels but everyone of those 3 channels had a "Million Dollar Movie" and "Late Late Show" showing old films. Not to mention all the variety shows and other shows that had "stars from the past" as guest stars. Yeah. We grew up very much knowing about pop culture from the past.

2) Go talk to some Millennials and Gen Z'ers. Very few of them have ANY concept of ANYTHING that occured before they were born. Even though they grew up with cable tv and networks that only showed old films, only a teeny tiny handful of them actually watched those channels.

The response you get when you ask a Millennial why they haven't watched a certain film or read a book or been aware of a certain historical event is, "Uh, that was before I was born".

They can, however, list over 200 kinds of Pokemon!

R112, R114. “My God, that Steve Mcqueen's real sexy, Bob Goulet out, Steve Mcqueen in!” from A Chorus Line.

R119 Tons of millennials and Gen Zers are into Old Hollywood films. I’m one of them.

If Clint Eastwood could do a musical, Steve McQueen was REQUIRED to do a musical!

^ I thought Marlon Brando in Godfather the Musical was far more compelling. When he broke into Mama Mia there wasn't a dry eye in the house

[quote] didn't Kenneth Anger call him out for putting tampons in his asshole for all his stunt scenes?

Why on earth would he do such a thing?

R98 Aha! I was coming to the thread to post this... Prefab Sprout, one of the great underappreciated bands.

I think, for the young kids, the comparison to Clint Eastwood is right. If Clint had died, perhaps after the Gauntlet, would anyone remember him? Be he was the world's biggest star in those days. Similarly, McQueen was absolutely one of the world's largest stars in his prime.

And Steve's cock was so much larger than Clint's

Every time someone on DL recounts a Kenneth Anger anecdote, it always involves some celeb of yesteryear doing outrageous, humiliating things. The stories sound so far-fetched.

R123, Brando did his duty in the movie of Guys and Dolls.

Steve "sang" in a movie - dubbed by Glenn Yarbrough.

He was a one-note actor and not good looking.

Yes, we know OP, we know. Now go start another troll thread on a Hollywood icon you can shit on. That's a good troll.

I collect cars, and Steve's are always valued high. People remember him.

R127 - if it's celebs of yesteryear, it's because Hollywood Babylon was published in 1975 and Hollywood Babylon II was published in 1984.

Steve McQueen will be remembered for Bullitt, The Magnificent Seven, The Great Escape and The Thomas Crown Affair.

Trivial notes: Co-star Susanne Pleshette was a friend of his, but says he was the cheapest person she ever met, always leaving the table when the check came.

McQueen and Yul Brynner hated each other during filming of "Magnificent Seven".

The billing for "Towering Inferno" was a big deal at the time, with both Newman and McQueen wanting top billing. The ads show Newman first (on the right), but McQueen higher on the left. However, if you wait to the ending credits, McQueen goes first.

Maybe there were some other people who, like me, fond him and his films rather boring and overrated?

I'm not sure how anyone could find Bullitt boring.

I think he's an underrated actor. (though an asshole in life) And he was really trying to stretch himself towards the end. I mean, he filmed an Ibsen play, for cri'sakes. Oh, and nobody mentioned one of his best roles in a really good film...The Sand Pebbles.

He's forgotten because he didn't live long enough to appear on Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, or Knots Landing.

Joan dear, I think that wig and gear underneath to lift your sagging face is too tight.

R134, Not only did they fight over top billing, they also fought over the number of lines they had. McQueen bitched about Newman having more lines of dialogue until the imbalance was corrected.

The situation with Brynner was due to McQueen's constant upstaging. Every time Brynner uttered a line, McQueen would be adjusting his hat or tying the straps of his chaps or fidgeting with his gun. Anything to steal a scene.

James Garner, McQueen's co-star on The Great Escape, summed him up with "Like Marlon Brando, he could be a pain in the ass on set. Unlike Brando, he wasn't an actor. He was a movie star, a poser who cultivated the image of a macho man."

Steve McQueen married Lena Horne, didn't he?

Well, if James Garner says it!

I'm a fan of the divine Ingrid in her TV version of the Henrick Ibsen's "Hedda Gabler" so I feel I should make the effort to watch this worthy attempt at another Ibsen play.

I heard he liked to walk around naked, even during the interview that accompanied these pictures. I would love to be a reporter in old Hollywood...

Photographer John Dominis on getting to know McQueen:

“He just enjoyed being out in the desert looking at the sun”, remembers Dominis, “He was just so natural about everything. There was no time to feel embarrassed… I shot some pictures specially of his backside so we could use them in the magazine, because in most of them he was just [full-frontal] nude. He wasn’t hiding anything.”

[quote] I heard he liked to walk around naked

The Rolling Stone interviewer, back in the 70s?, said the same about Richard Gere during his interview.

He was so rugged and handsome back in the 60s. As someone upthread said, straight men worshipped him.

He is quite forgotten now with the younger population.

He did not make a lot of good films. His body of work is thin.

Fine but he made popular fims. Money-makers.

[quote]nobody mentioned one of his best roles in a really good film...The Sand Pebbles.

R137 A good movie based on a great book. Yes, Steve was excellent but most of the supporting cast (except Richard Attenborough and Richard Crenna) sucked. Candace Bergen? Awful! The movie should have gotten more attention.

"Completely faded in popularity?" Well, I gather most celebrities would fade a little in popularity after being dead after being dead for 40 years.

The OP is an idiot. Anybody who knows anything about movies would know who Steve McQueen was. He was a legendary film star. He was "King of Cool." In 1974, McQueen became the highest-paid movie star in the world, In TCM's short film "100 Years At The Movies" he's one of the featured actors. He was really something. And he is definitely NOT "forgotten." !

I think his "man's man" personality would strike today's audiences as slightly ridiculous.

He wasn't that popular OP

If ever there was a “legend” that I didn’t get what the appeal was, it’s Steve McQueen. And apparently he was an abusive asshole in his private life.

Didn’t have enough long lasting BDE - Big Dick Energy.

Agree with r154 — I’m a massive movie nerd but never gotten McQueen’s appeal. He just never seems cool to me, he just seems vacant. I never feel anything in his eyes. He’s an outfit, a car, a hairdo

Because he was alive 132 years ago.

[quote] he just seems vacant.

He was before my time but he did seem rather simian.

A rev-head married to Lena Horne.

I met him on the set of "The Thomas Crown Affair." Shook his hand. I was just 14 at the time. The production crew arranged for me to sit across from him at lunch. I was too overwhelmed to say anything. But I listened as he told his tablemates that he contributed a lot to Native Americans on reservations because they had very little. He was handsome in his own way and the epitome of cool.

Wow, cool story.

Wrong, r5. "Bullitt," "The Great Escape," "The Thomas Crown Affair."

Ignorance isn't a merit badge.

R158, Lena Horne? Say what?!

I once fucked a guy because he said I looked like Steve McQueen.

His grandson looks like he smells cookies

Though his films were popular as was he for a number of years most of them The Sand Pebbles, Bullitt, The Towering Inferno, The Getaway, Love with the Proper Stranger are mediocre. He was a new type of leading man as Bogart was in the 40s and 50s and audiences responded to him. He appears @15:35⬇️⬇️⬇️

Alexander Mcqueen is better known.

I didn't realize he was only 50 when he died.

[quote] Alexander Mcqueen is better known.

Not really.

r140

Shows what Garner knew, he got that last part, "[Unlike Brando he was] a poser who cultivated the image of a macho man", completely the wrong way around.

McQueen after a motorcycle race

racing in the Mojave desert

How can anyone say he’s not iconic? He’s still used to sell high end watches.

I recently rewatched Bullitt which I love. He’s so stylish in these movies too- even The Great Escape and his simple casual outfits in that.

His output like a lot of the greats was relatively small compared to stars today that seem to appear in every movie going. I think he has a great enviable filmography with lots of quality projects and few embarrassing ones.

Movie fans will always be aware of guys like McQueen, James Dean and Paul Newman because of their part in classic movies.

OP = Leonardo DiCaprio. Learn your film history, young man!!!

I always thought he that the part of Cool Hand Luke would have been perfect for McQueen. It seemed to suit him and his background more than Newman.

Loved the coat and suits in Bullitt.

I would eat that ass like a Sizzler buffet. I wonder if he ever did the man up into the man?

R175's link shows the current state of mindless journalism

[quote] a killer wardrobe

[quote] that killer suit.

[quote] A killer raincoat is key

I think possibly only delon was more stylish in a trench coat

R167, He died in a clinic in Mexico in 1980, where he had gone to receive Laetrile treatments for his cancer, a drug that was not legal in the USA and still is not today.

Looked like a blond chimp. Deadpan actor. That was the "cool " part. He never showed any emotion whatsoever.

He was a niche actor who never rose above it and naturally faded away from public memory not unlike many of his peers. As much as some people like to romantize old Hollywood stars alot of them were just plain boring and had their images manufactured by the studio system at the time. The ones we still talk about are the ones who met tragic ends(like Dean&Monroe) while the ones who lived to old age(Brando/Liz Taylor)curiously aren't as revered and I think there are a lot of reasons for that but this post has already been long winded. But to sum it up McQueen was a drunk, an addict, woman beating James Dean wannabee who never quite rose to that level and his films towards the end of his life were flopping anyways

[quote]He wasn't that popular OP

He was one of the biggest movie stars from 1967-1974.

And his films made money.

"He was a niche actor who never rose above it and naturally faded away from public memory "

He did not "fade", he died

Interesting that McQueen's popularity spanned almost the entirety of New Hollywood (1967-1976).

He should be the poster child for that era.

His career ended just as JAWS and especially STAR WARS were taking over and changing the game.

[quote]Why on earth would he do such a thing?

Anger claimed McQueen wore tampon up the bum to soothe his hemorrhoids which flared up while riding is motorcycle.

Sjure he did.

I was born in the 70s, but I don’t know more about him than his name and the fact there is a black director with his name

Bullet, Great Escape and Thomas Crowne Affair are not great films- I do think his image as the tough cool guy was a bit narrow. That said I agree with those who think the OP is a bit out of it. McQueen has his place in American film history- if you know something about it.

When I was growing up we watch old films on local TV stations (Million Dollar Movie). I don’t think people watch old films like we did- they’re much more consumed by social media and Internet hooks- or even reality “stars” and YouTube loudmouths who are essentially nothing.

I wasn't talking about how he died R183 I actually said he faded from PUBLIC MEMORY which means he's largely forgotten, which is on topic with this thread. Come on gramps try to keep up.

[quote]More "kids today" are aware of old movie stars and music acts than ever—they have limitless exposure to them through cable, YouTube, online and streaming sources.

Some of you live in a fantasy world where the cultural touchstones you hold dear are still relevant. A world where high school kids in 2022 ask each other which song from Judy Garland's Carnegie Hall concert album is their favorite.

When I was growing up in the 60s, local TV channels would fill their programming with movies from the 30s-50s. Not because people wanted to watch them, but because they were cheap to license. So we were all exposed to movie stars before our time. Now, you have to seek out those movies; you have to WANT to see them.

And most young people do not. My niece and nephew, who are in their 20s and well-educated, have never seen a black-and-white movie. They would only know who Barbra Streisand is if I had mentioned her. Time moves on. The celebrities we hold dear are mostly forgotten.

I read an autobiography by James Dean's best friend, who said that Steve McQueen was very homophobic. He said that was because he was so defensive about having given up his ass to get a start in the industry.

R71- Yes. I'm referring to his career.

He swagger jacked from Black men like a lot of "cool" white guys. I agree with James Gardner he was a poser, and his style was outdated. He looked like a chimp in a turtleneck sweater.

^Illiterate boob, know-nothing.

^^ Pathetic eldergay in love with the image if an actor not the real person.

R193 What black men did he copy?

He was wonderful in “The Cincinnati Kid”. I love that movie, as it time warps New Orleans perfectly. Even the original Preservation Hall jazz band was featured. Absolutely legendary.

[quote] But to sum it up McQueen was a drunk, an addict, woman beating James Dean wannabee who never quite rose to that level and his films towards the end of his life were flopping anyways

Boy are YOU a fucking idiot. McQueen was NEVER a "James Dean wannabee." Also his final film was not a "flop"; it netted $37 million at the box office — against an $8 million budget. I think you're pretty much full of shit about everything else, too. Looks like you have a weird ax to grind.

Here are some memories of Steve McQueen from his last wife Barbara Minty:

"One time Steve saw some local kids throwing a football stuffed with rags. He dispatched [stuntman] Loren Janes to a sporting goods store. Before you could blink, hundreds of baseballs, footballs, mitts, and bats were left in a large recreational field."

"Although he had practically stopped giving autographs a decade before, Steve freely handed out several thousand signed 8 x 10 glossies. When Steve discovered that a local Catholic church was in need, he wrote a check covering all expenses."

"Before he handed over the check, he stopped by to see the film’s producer, Mort Engleberg, and said, “Mort, this is what I’m giving to the church. I’d like you to match it.”

"No one knew he performed all of these great deeds, but he did. By the way, Mort immediately said yes and wrote a check on the spot. How could he say no to Steve McQueen?"

R48 Most young people probably have no idea who Warren Beatty is either. Only if they’re really into film.

Although Bonnie and Clyde is more remembered than any Steve McQueen movie. Splendor in the Grass seems to be popular too.

Maybe it's the Gay thing, but "Bullitt" is such a revered movie at least among straight men that Ford developed a $50,000 Mustang 52 years after the movie's release and sold every one

It would be interesting to learn who owns the rights to his image, etc. Whomever it is isn't making an effort to publicize him like Elvis, Marilyn, Audrey Hepburn estates do.

Today there's so much entertainment and it's moving at such a quick pace that young people have ADD and they aren't interested to look into the past. It has to be foisted upon them through advertising/PR.

R198, thanks. So many of the new posters talk out their asses.

Wikipedia says he also had close ties with the "reformatory" home where he spent the most time in his youth, visited the place about once a year when he was famous, and gave the guys there pep talks about getting out of it and the importance of finding a purpose in life, telling them his story. He also donated big quantities of things that they needed there (like athletic equipment). None of these actions were publicized. He was a stand-up guy. Before you cast aspersions, you really ought to look up the circumstances of his early life. It's amazing he didn't end up a criminal and in jail for the rest of his life; he was dealt a VERY bad hand in life.

Older but interesting article on Steve McQueen licensing.

[quote]When I was growing up in the 60s, local TV channels would fill their programming with movies from the 30s-50s. Not because people wanted to watch them, but because they were cheap to license. So we were all exposed to movie stars before our time. Now, you have to seek out those movies; you have to WANT to see them.

That was the same back then, too. The old movies weren't usually on during prime time, they were on when there was nothing else to show, like when a baseball game got rained out or late at night. People would just turn the TV off, or turn the volume down and do something else.

I'd bet there are a lot of old stars that kids actually do know about but don't realize it. You could say "Cary Grant" and they wouldn't know it, but if you told them it was the guy in the "get out" gif, they'd recognize him immediately.

R196 I think there's a good argument for the "appropriation" of cool... the whole 50s beats-in-love-with-jazz is the evidentiary bridge. I mean McQueen (and Brando, Dean, Newman... the cool brigade) were public representations of real characters like Neal Cassidy, a central part of whose being was founded on bebop and cool jazz. In summary: 50s and 60s "cool" would not exist without jazz.

[quote] The ones we still talk about are the ones who met tragic ends(like Dean&Monroe)

To say that Marilyn Monroe is still talked about only because of her sad end is absurd. Sad ends are a dime a dozen in Hollywood. Her sad ending is part of her legacy, but she's still talked about today because of the indelible impression she left behind. The camera loved her, and there's been nobody like her since.

You can't "forget" someone you never knew. Film is forever, so anyone can become aware of Steve McQueen from one of his old movies.

McQueen was married to the very attractive half a Filipina, dancer Neile Adams. Aside from her first brief marriage, Lena Horne was not going to be with any man who expected sex from her.

R198 you're the fucking Mary getting over emotional over the IMAGE not the real person. Here are some more " happy memories " since you wanna play

"As his career progressed, the actor's personal demons began to eclipse his talent. Separated from his first wife, Neile, with whom he had children Chad and Terry, McQueen struck up a romance with MacGraw while filming The Getaway. The affair ignited a scandal, as the actress was married to film executive Robert Evans at the time, but McQueen and MacGraw married in 1973. Their relationship grew increasingly stormy, fueled in part by McQueen's use of alcohol and drugs, until their divorce in 1978. Both of his ex-wives later stated that the actor could be physically abusive and was often unfaithful."

Here's more for the dumb bitch R198

He WAS flopping. Anytime he tried to step out of his usual wooden performances he flopped.

"Returning to the big screen in 1978, McQueen starred in An Enemy of the People, based on the play by Henrik Ibsen. He was almost unrecognizable in the film with his long hair, beard and heavier physique, and audiences did not know what to make of their action hero's portrayal of a scientist fighting against pollution. After this project failed at the box office, McQueen returned to more familiar character types."

It's very typical for an asshole celebrity to spread money around to people he doesn't know - Sinatra did that shit on a regular basis, Elvis gave Cadillacs away while not taking care of his family.

Both things can be true.

R202, His estate would be handled by his widow Barbara or son Chad, or both.

Then why haven't his heirs "Audrey Hepburned" his image? She would definitely have been forgotten if her son(s) hadn't shoved her image down everyone's throat telling us what a great actress and fashion icon she was. My 23 year old niece saw a poster I have of Elizabeth Taylor and Montgomery Clift and asked if the woman was Audrey Hepburn.

"Then why haven't his heirs "Audrey Hepburned" his image? "

Stupid, I guess

[quote]"Returning to the big screen in 1978, McQueen starred in An Enemy of the People, based on the play by Henrik Ibsen. He was almost unrecognizable in the film with his long hair, beard and heavier physique, and audiences did not know what to make of their action hero's portrayal of a scientist fighting against pollution. After this project failed at the box office, McQueen returned to more familiar character types."

He made only two more movies after "An Enemy of the People," both released in 1980, the year of his death.

Three people so far have alluded to his weak jawline.

McQueen had to go to court to get An Enemy of the People released, it was seen as such a turkey on all levels. The movie was done for the First Artists company, the one formed by Sidney Poitier, Paul Newman and Barbra Streisand in 1969, later joined by McQueen and Dustin Hoffman (who sued them too). The only other McQueen First Artists film I can remember is the original campy The Getaway (1972).

The insipid asshole at R210/R211 seems to be very invested in making Steve McQueen out to be an evil person whose career was tanking. But that's just a figment of his/her pathetic, distorted imagination.

Impotent eldergay R220 seems very invested in romantizing this ugly,overrated, "cool" image of Steve McQueen when that's just as dead as he is.

[quote] you're the fucking Mary getting over emotional over the IMAGE not the real person

You're the fucking moronic dickhead with a pathological grudge against Steve McQueen. You certainly seem invested in making him out to be an evil person whose career was tanking. But that's all just a figment of your distorted, pathetic imagination. Spew your rancid bullshit if you need to, but the fact is that McQueen is a revered, classic movie star and always will be. Nothing you can do about THAT.

Steve died on 11/7/1980, the same day that the TV series Dallas returned for season 4. In that night's episode, J.R. is discovered in his office after being shot!

Very good, R222. But it's been well documented that McQueen was a paranoid, drug addicted asshole. Deal with it.

I love upsetting these hysterical bitchy Marys like R222. Still clinging to dead has-beens from 40 years ago while forgetting the original OP which was asking why nobody cares. You'll have to live with the fact that not everyone sucks McQueens balls like you do. And it's not a figment of my imagination when it came straight from the horses mouth that he was a druggie who tended to get violent with women when angry or under the influence which was most of the time. He's dead and not coming back move on like everyone else has.

That biographer who writes a lot of scandalous shit about dead people, I forget his name - I just remembered his name, Darwin Porter - wrote a book about McQueen. I read it, it was probably a lot of lies.

I agree with the other people, he didn't have a lot of appeal, for me. But I liked him in random things - both of the Alfred Hitchcock Presents episodes he was on, Soldier In The Rain, co-starring Jackie Gleason, Baby The Rain Must Fall, Love With The Proper Stranger, and The Honeymoon Machine (an MGM comedy with Jim Hutton and Paula Prentiss).

Steve McQueen King of Cool: Tales of a Lurid Life, by Darwin Porter

[quote] No iconic role or movie that is still relevant today.

Tell me you’re joking. The Blob, The Magnificent Seven, Bullitt, The Great Escape, The Thomas Crown Affair.

TTCA is a perfect film, and so cool it’s almost overwhelming.

McQueen isn’t better known today because he has been dead for half a century. He was also a world class asshole.

But in his day, in the 60s, in the midst of social rebellion, he fit like a glove.

Girls, girls, girls!

This thread has become very silly. It would benefit from some FACTUAL information and/or videos.

Okay, R225, point made. Give it a rest.

{quote] But it's been well documented that McQueen was a paranoid, drug addicted asshole. Deal with it.

No, it hasn't, deranged Steve McQueen hating asshole. He'll always be a revered movie star and you will always be a pitiable asshole. Deal with it.

[quote] You'll have to live with the fact that not everyone sucks McQueens balls like you do.

You'll have to live with the fact that not everyone has a pathological hatred for a long dead movie star like you do. Get some help.

[quote] He's dead and not coming back move on like everyone else has.

Move on from what? I don't obsess over Steve McQueen. But you surely do. You're one sick fuck.

Can someone ban the deranged asshole who posts the shit above R231/232, and ruined this thread? At this point you're fighting with NO ONE.

Bitch wants everybody to loathe McQueen as much as she does.

The only thing I really like about “The Towering Inferno” is Faye’s dress.

R233/234 = psychotic Steve McQueen hating turd

There are and were plenty of actors/ actresses/singers with messy private lives equal or worse than McQueen. Hell, Frank Sinatra almost killed 2 people. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy their performances, and they also didn't do nice things as well.

R235, Natalie Wood was initially cast but reneged and was replaced by Faye.

Can we ban the most annoying eye roll emoji troll?

As a kid I comfised McQueen with Jerry Reed.

You must have been a very comfised child, R241.

In 'Love With The Proper Stranger' McQueen and Natalie Wood's characters each delivered their dialogue in a similar jumpy and staccato manner which was odd for not one but both leading roles. Yet it worked and they both had a strange but good chemistry with each other. It was McQueen's only romantic comedy (Wood made at least a dozen more) and maybe he should have made more.

Mediocre actor, limited screen presence, boring.

He always reminds me of Daniel Craig, who's good for generic macho James Bond movie fare, but beyond that he falls flat.

Gossip is that he fucked Paul Newman. That's relevant here at least.

R198...Never knew that. He was very generous...that's nice to learn.

Newman could do better.

The McQueen shills are more annoying than the critics. Nobody is trying to make him "evil" by discussing whatever vices the man had. A lot of that stuff can be Googled for those screaming about accuracy. And by the way, on a website that encourages "Pointless Bitchery" its absurd to call for a ban when someone is saying something you don't like, it defeats the purpose.

R243, Natalie received a Best Actress Oscar nomination.

Well, they have to come up with 5 names every year, so…

R250 ...so they could have come up with the name of another actress, only they didn't.

[quote] The McQueen shills are more annoying than the critics.

Not really. As for McQueen, he seemed not much different from many male celebrities when it came to excesses. He took drugs, drank and had troublesome relationships with women; big fucking whoop.

He's faded into macho obscurity.

[Quote]he seemed not much different from many male celebrities when it came to excesses. He took drugs, drank and had troublesome relationships with women; big fucking whoop.

sounds like Johnny Depp, Ben Affleck, Mickey Rourke . . .

Well, he was no Stanley Baker, that's for sure.

[quote] his features were angular, taut, austere and unwelcoming.

R255 Mary!

[quote]psychotic Steve McQueen hating turd

Some pathetic queen here has sixth grade like crush on McQueen, and cannot take criticism. Wait till he gets a REAL boyfriend.

[quote] For as popular as he was

He wasn't universally popular.

I saw him do the Watusi on Youtube.

His son looks rather porky.

Oh please, people will be watching The Blob 100 years from now.

Like R205 linked to a story above, his licensing and image are alive and well in various ways. If you look at any men’s fashion retrospective, he epitomises his era as a fashion icon. He could pull off everything along the continuum from utility workwear, western, casual, motorcycle gear, to looking sharp in a fitted suit, Simultaneously rugged and refined and ultimately cool. His image legacy is even more enduring than his cinematic and shows up in current fashion and collectibles. Barbour International has carried a Steve McQueen line for several years now. Some of the jackets even have liners with his face. His estate sells his image in some interesting places. He has been done many times by different companies in the 1/6 scale figure (i.e. dolls for grown ups) world dressed in outfits from various films. Great Escape in the baseball outfits has been done licensed by at least three companies. His head sculpt also shows up frequently in unlicensed Knick off versions directly from China as well. Go to eBay and search ‘1/6 Steve McQueen’ if you’re curious. He’s a reoccurring theme that keeps selling.

GFYSelves MAGAt troll thread. Yeah right…we really care about copies made in GINA “China”. Their goal is to bury midterm threads.

I’ll just keep bumping midterm SCOTUS threads.

R263 Are you in the wrong thread?

***MAGAt fap, fap, fap thread.***

No wonder Twiggy "turned him down." He was not her type at all. He was way too much man for that little stick figure girl.

McQueen was gay in an era where it was unacceptable. There was nothing genuine about the image we saw of him. Garner was also gay. He liked to watch guys have sex with women the way Lowe does . Anything but admit to being gay.

R266 = the one who gave you "psychotic Steve McQueen hating turd"

[quote]McQueen was gay

Gay men do not have messy affairs with women.

R269 Hmmph. Come over here, sit by me. Let me tell you about my life....

I recently saw "Love With The Proper Stranger." Both McQueen and Natalie Wood were very good in it. When their characters finally kiss was really something; it one of the best movie kisses I've ever seen. McQueen really knew how to kiss. During their lip lock Natalie Wood seems almost in a swoon and it looks like she's NOT acting.

R271, They enjoyed a brief fling after her divorce from Richard Gregson and before her remarriage to Robert Wagner.

He was incredibly hot and charismatic onscreen. He was the "King of Cool."

I was a kid in the '60s and a teenager in the '70s. I was never a fan. He wasn't attractive to me and his movies didn't interest me. I think the only things I saw were The Great Escape and The Thomas Crown Affair. He also treated Ali McGraw poorly, not wanting her to work when she was with him.

R271, I agree. She wasn't that good of an actress.

[quote] I agree. She wasn't that good of an actress.

I didn't say "wasn't that good of an actress." I said that when kissing Steve McQueen she seemed like she wasn't faking getting moist.

R276, I know what you said. I don't think she was a particularly good actress.

[quote] He also treated Ali McGraw poorly, not wanting her to work when she was with him.

After The Getaway, some would argue that was a good thing!

Ali MacGraw’s Best Actress Oscar nomination for “Love Story” remains one of the great mysteries of Hollywood.

R278

No, he wanted to completely control her life and not have her work at all or pursue any interests. She later said that she should have taken acting lessons but he didn't want her to do anything but focus on his needs.

I guarantee you this: any celebrity that you are convinced is so important and unforgettable right now will be barely mentioned in 50 years.

Maybe because he died in 1980, long before the newer generation of DLers even took their first breath.

[quote]I guarantee you this: any celebrity that you are convinced is so important and unforgettable right now will be barely mentioned in 50 years.

NOT JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDY!!!!!!

I’ve seen him in many films and not one performance was memorable. I always though he was kind of a dud.

R284, I rewatched “The Thomas Crown Affair” over the weekend and McQueen looked quite sexy, while Faye looked gorgeous.

Bleach will do that, R285

THere are very few actors who stand the test of time. Actors like James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, Joan Crawford and John Wayne are a "type."

Ali MacGraw was perfect in "Just Tell Me What You Want." When I first saw it, I was delightfully surprised; she could've been a wonderful screen comedienne. The movie was wonderful.

Ali MacGraw was TERRIBLE in "Just Tell Me What You Want." I though she might be good in a role where she could just play herself like Brenda Patimkin...but NO. I almost walked out of the movie theater.

I think a lot of guys loved Ali and still probably have a soft spot for her. And hey, she was better than Jennifer O'Neil.

...People keep saying thank God Ali McGraw wasn't Daisy Buchanan (which I don't disagree with), but apparently they forget Mia Farrow was roasted by the critics for *her* performance.

Ali would have been excellent in Gatsby, opposite Redford who was desperately trying to display emotion. Laugh fest!

Deep Thoughts, by...

Great quote from Robert Evans: "She (McGraw) may have been looking at me... . but she was thinking about Steve McQueen's cock."

McGraw was a flat actress but was a good co-star for strong actors to bounce thing off.

Relax, I was just going off of what she admitted herself. I actually quite like her.

I was born in the early 80s and know nothing about Steve McQueen — except for those dick pics I’ve seen here.

There will never be a widely praised daisy Buchanan. Because everyone's image of the most beautiful all American girl will be different.

I've only seen ass picks, no dick.

He knocked Sally Struthers the fuck out.

[quote] I was born in the early 80s and know nothing about Steve McQueen

He died in 1980. He was one of the greatest film stars of all time. That's all you need to know.

[quote]McGraw was a flat actress but was a good co-star for strong actors to bounce thing off.

Maybe if she kept her mouth SHUT.

Ali was wonderful as Lady Ashley on (old) Dynasty...until she died.

R119 I’m a 35 year old millennial.

I discovered Steve McQueen through my friend / crush back in 2006 when we were 19/20.

We exchanged favorite movies. I gave him “The Rose” and he gave me “Papillon”.

A lot of me and my friends like old movies.

I do remember black and white movies being tough for kids in school though.

I get him confused with the director (Steve McQueen) and fashion designer (Alexander McQueen). Didn't know there was an actor called Steve McQueen.

R305 is too dumb for words. Wow.

Sorry, not sorry r306. Not everyone is going to know about every actor. I heard McQueen and remember there is a designer with that name and I was certain there is a black director called Steve McQueen. If you aren't familiar with this actor, you may also be thinking someone is referring to one of those men.

Also, this guy died 21 years before I was even born, excuse the fuck out of me for not knowing some actor from another era.

[quote]Ali was wonderful as Lady Ashley on (old) Dynasty...until she died.

I think Lady Ashley and Steven's boyfriend Luke (Billy Campbell) were the only two characters to die in the Moldavian "massacre."

R 307, instead of lashing out, watch a Steve McQueen film and educate yourself. I recommend The Great Escape or Bullitt.

Most of my favorite actors died long before I was born. There's a world outside Marvel.

r309, I lashed out because r306 came for me. Perhaps r306 should have been less of an asshole. Op's entire point is that this dude is largely forgotten. I noted that I don't know who he is but mentioned some McQueens I am vaguely familiar with.

I don't think I'm the problem here, blame r306. But, I'll keep an eye out for his movies.

I was born in the mid-1970s, so I didn't grow up with his films. But, I do remember his name, and wondered why he wasn't still considered a bigger deal--even back in the 1980s. He was so rugged and handsome. But, looking back, I guess enough time had passed and none of his last few films/performances became staples in cinema. Whenever I hear talk of him, it's usually in association with Bullitt, which is known more for its San Francisco locale and the car chase scenes.

I was also intrigued by his death, when I learned about him. I honestly remember reading that he got cancer (along with a bunch of other cast and crew) from a particular film (does anyone else remember this?). I don't remember which movie. But, upon looking into it again, that may have just been an unsubstantiated rumour at the time, because it appears he got it from asbestos whilst serving in the military.

When Shame came out in 2011, I learned of the director with the same name, and I thought that was pretty ballsy. For such an iconic name--regardless of how less relevant he was--it was surprising to me that someone who is trying to make it in Hollywood would keep it. I still think it's weird. To me, the name is still iconic, even though he's not as famous as James Dean or Cary Grant--but certainly more unusual.

"McQueen had unbelievable screen presence."

As in not believable. The man had an acting range from A to B, the charisma of an introverted accountant, and was incapable -- or afraid -- to show ANY emotion.

And that's why he's (almost) completely faded in popularity. Dull as bathwater.

I posted a link upthread about how his likeness is still used to promote products. Steve McQueen is not forgotten. OP's premise was faulty.

Here's another regarding Steve and cars.

[R289] Yeah, Ali McGraw was pretty weak in Just Tell Me What You Want. However Alan King was terrific, and had the classic line “Do you know who lives in New Jersey? RELATIVES live in New Jersey!”

R312, honey introduce me to your accountant!

Like many comedians Alan King was a superior actor. Looking at it in reverse how many serious actors could be successful doing stand-up?

If it had been filmed in the early 40s I think Vivien Leigh probably could have handled playing Daisy Buchanan.

[quote] And that's why he's (almost) completely faded in popularity. Dull as bathwater.

You are an idiot. Film Critics agree he was one of the greatest film stars of all time. You sound REALLY dumb.

R319, film critics really don’t. He isn’t considered in the league of his contemporaries like Newman or Redford, let alone people like Brando, Bogart, Gable and many, many others.

If you polled film critics, McQueen wouldn’t make a list of the top fifty film stars of all time, and we all know it.

For starters, Steve was only 50 when he died but at one point he was the highest paid actor.

Even if it’s true that in the era of social media that McQueen may have faded in popularity a little as have many due to the over abundance of images in general- he had a great run with it. I would only have to flip through a men’s fashion magazine in the early 00s and would see his image half a dozen times held up as a paragon of style in ads and features.

R320 I think he belongs in that list alongside all those you mentioned in terms of lasting iconic status. He may not come up tops in a list of the top 50 actors, but in a list of top 50 male movie stars of all time he would for sure.

[quote] If you polled film critics, McQueen wouldn’t make a list of the top fifty film stars of all time, and we all know it.

"We?" Who is this "we" that you speak of? You don't speak for the masses, you silly twat. McQueen definitely is considered one of the greatest film stars of all time. TCM did a three part "salute to one of the most fascinating icons of the movies (according to Robert Osbourne)." It featured a documentary called 'Steve McQueen: the Essence of Cool." On August 14, 2020, he was honored with a day of his filmography during the Turner Classic Movies Summer Under the Stars. People with no tlanet don't tend to get accolades like that, you poor clod.

This is from his bio on IMDB:

"He was the ultra-cool male film star of the 1960s, and rose from a troubled youth spent in reform schools to being the world's most popular actor. Over 40 years after his untimely death from mesothelioma in 1980, Steve McQueen is still considered hip and cool, and he endures as an icon of popular culture."

Ryan O'Neal, James Caan, and Jeff Bridges stole Steve's career in the 1970s...and then Steve died. 🤷‍♂️

Hahaha.

R319/R323: First you say, "Film Critics agree he was one of the greatest film stars of all time", yet provide absolutely no proof to back up that laughable claim. Not even ONE example! Then at R323 your "proof" (HAHA!) he's the greatest is because DL fave Robert Osbourne did a "three part salute" to him. OMG!!! Then it must be true. You "silly twat!"

Of course you left out the fact that Osbourne's done three-part salutes to June Allyson, Walter Matthau, Margaret O'Brien, Ruth Hussey, Mickey Rooney, Betty Hutton and more. But that's not stopping you, "you poor clod", because you found the definitive proof! His IMDB Bio, written by a complete stranger!

There's not even a mention on his Wikipedia page -- not ONE mention of this elusive praise from these film critics who you claim 'agree' he's one of the best actors ever. That's because even HE wouldn't believe that to be true, let alone a group of critics.

And btw, Betty Grable -- also dead at 50 -- was also the highest paid actor for a few years earlier in her career. She's basically forgotten too.

with DL icon Tuesday Weld

R325, you are certainly no film buff. But definitely a crazy, drunk poster.

Typical non-reply R327/323/319. I don't blame you since there's no way to argue your original points.

[quote] First you say, "Film Critics agree he was one of the greatest film stars of all time", yet provide absolutely no proof to back up that laughable claim.

Back again, huh retard? Do I have to change your diapers for you? Look it up. There's plenty of info about the importance of Steve McQueen as a movie star, if one cares to seek it out. But I suppose you can't do that because your're retarded. By, the way TCM doesn't do tributes to actors of no significane. Guess you didn't know that that. You don't know much, do you?

Steve McQUeenis still a cultural icon. And you're still a retard troll.

[quote]And btw, Betty Grable -- also dead at 50 -- was also the highest paid actor for a few years earlier in her career. She's basically forgotten too.

R325 Apparently, not by you.

Betty Grable had a months old condom removed from deep in her vadge when a lover complained of odor.

The glamour of Hollywood!

Mick Jagger's all-time favorite actor is Steve McQueen. Just sayin'.

Nobody gives a shit what film critics say, and they usually have no idea why a mildly talented actor is/was an icon. That’s not their job.

[quote] Nobody gives a shit what film critics say

They certainly do. People who are knowledable about movies always have an interest in what reputable film critics have to say.

R334, Except for when Judith Crist began appearing in ads promoting “feminine hygiene deodorant”.

[quote]Except for when Judith Crist began appearing in ads promoting “feminine hygiene deodorant”.

"I give it two thumbs up!"

[quote] She was an international superstar, beloved the world over!

Diana was a train wreck. That's why people found her interesting. Highly unstable people generally attract a lot of attention.

Oopa, wrong thread.

I wonder if Diana might have dated Steve McQueen while visiting America.

[quote] I wonder if Diana might have dated Steve McQueen while visiting America.

Probably. She liked actors. Elton John said that at some celebrity gathering Diana and Richard Gere, were, um, VERY interested in each other. One of the adulterous affairs was with Terrence Stamp. She definitely would have liked a tumble with McQueen.

Too bad she didn't. I think she would have been safer on the back of his Harley.

[quote]I wonder if Diana might have dated Steve McQueen while visiting America.

It's unlikely she would have wanted to date someone who died the year before she married Prince Charles.

Much earlier than that.

[quote] I wonder if Diana might have dated Steve McQueen while visiting America.

If he'd been alive and well she would have loved to ride his cock.

Who wouldn't want that big hog?

R329, I'm embarrassed FOR you. Once again, you make a claim, offer no proof, but expect others to do your homework for you. It doesn't work that way.

And on top of that, you can't even spell his NAME correctly.

Wasn’t Diana hot for Travolta?

Fun Fact: Steve McQueen's co-star in The Blob was Aneta Corsaut, who went on to fame as Helen Krump, girlfriend of Sheriff Andy Taylor on The Andy Griffith Show.

[quote] I'm embarrassed FOR you. Once again, you make a claim, offer no proof, but expect others to do your homework for you. It doesn't work that way.

Oh piss off, you pitiful troll. You're the embarrassment, as trolls always are. If anybody wants homework done for them, it you, because you're not mentally equipped to do things for yourself. And just what "doesnt work that way?" You're not making sense. But then, you never did, sad little troll.

Sam Peckinpah, who directed McQueen in "The Getaway, " said this about him:

"If you want to learn everything there is to know about acting for film, just watch Steve McQueen's eyes."

What was the movie where Ida Lupino and Robert Preston played his parents?

R351, “Junior Bonner”

^ STANWYCK turned down the role Ida Lupino played.

R353, But she readily agreed to appear with Elvis.

^ Let’s try this one.

[quote]STANWYCK turned down the role Ida Lupino played.

I turned down the role YOU'RE playing!

Stanwyck also appeared in The Night Walker in1964 (with ex-husband Robert Taylor). This and Roustabout (1964) were lead roles, despite the films being junk. The part in Junior Bonner (1972) was not a lead. If I'm not mistaken she continued only to do only leads or important parts, even if it was guest starring on Wagon Train, or being top-billed in The Big Valley. She acted less in the 70s.

R357, Not quite the leading role.

R357, Whatever possessed Missy to do this?

One too many awful Sam Peckinpah movies did it.

Stanwyck did TV movies after her series The Big Valley ended in 1969. No more features.

R358 But an "important part" as I said.

I remember the Joey Bishop Show (reruns, I guess) as a kid - but not with this cast and setting. The second season had him as a talk show host in the city and Abby Dalton as his wife. This one has Marlo Thomas (later in the episode) - no wonder,it was produced by Danny Thomas.

R340- You sound like a FRAU.

Richard Gere and

Terence Stamp

TWO gay males

[quote] You sound like a FRAU.

I guess you believe the gerbil story about Richard Gere and consider Stamp gay because he played a gay character in a movie. You sound like a MORON.

Diana and Richard Gere met at a party. They were both available, she separated from Charles and he civorcing Cindy Crawford. Elton John, who was at the party, said:

“Straight away, Richard Gere and Diana seemed very taken with each other. As the rest of us chatted, I couldn’t help notice a strange atmosphere in the room. Judging by the kind of looks he kept shooting them, Diana and Richard Gere’s newly blossoming friendship was not going down well with Sylvester Stallone at all. I think he may have turned up to the party with the express intention of picking Diana up, only to find his plans for the evening ruined.”

John said his boyfriend David Furnish discovered Stallone and Gere “squaring up to each other, apparently about to settle their differences over Diana by having a fist-fight.” The fistfight was adverted by Furnish and the evneing proceeded, although the tension between the trio was noticeable for the rest of the evening.

As for Terrence Stamp, Andrew Morton claimed he and Diana had an affair in "Diana: In Search of Love." Morton referred to him discreetly as "a married film star."

Yes R365- Both Richard Gere and Terence Stamp are both NOTORIOUS

PUSSYHOUNDS along with Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Jake Gyllenhaal.

R367, do shut up.