California To Become World's 4th Largest Economy

All thanks to reality tv shows.

In the world. Wow. Go Cali!

Yep. Fuck off Republican scum.

I always laugh when people insist people insist that Republicans are good for business or the economy. And yet California is the richest state, not West Virginia, Arkansas, Oklahoma, or Alabama

We spit on those brokeass red states!

Fake news. Nobody wants to live in California anymore. That's why so many businesses and people are moving out.

They don't want to live in a communistic society.

We're glad to see you awful people go, Greg! We love it here.

Also the biggest state for agriculture.

But all the right wing trolls assured us that California is a disaster. How could it's economy possibly be continuing to grow stronger in the face of their dank memes?

Interesting. I would love for it to be true.

I do know a lot of people who are moving out of California. It has nothing to do with Communism. The two major reasons that the people I know are leaving are the weather/Global Warming/fires/water shortages, and the high rents. In the case of rents, people were tired of having to move every two years because there is no rent control and their rents skyrocket as soon as the lease is up. AB1482 may have solved that problem.

I’m liberal and the condition of living is making me centrist. A Latin guy just stopped by, neighbor, wondering if we had door cams. Someone stole his catalytic converters even though he had the special lock. Our hubcaps have been stolen twice. All of LA reels of weed and piss. There are camps and port o potties (a step up) unde highway overpasses. I used to like living in LA.

I live in Cali we’re is my cut.

Cali should secede. We don’t need your insane country.

Good luck, r13. That means maintaining some big ticket items that the federal government covers for you…not to mention import and export taxes.

Question from a dum dum here:

So US, China, Japan, and California in fourth place.

The US counts California’s worth as part of its own, correct?

How does that work?

If California is considered alongside entire countries, how is the US allowed to count California’s worth as part of its own - I mean, I know CA is part of the US.

Are other countries in the top tier comprised of regions that are also separately on the list?

it is rich because of big AG but CA is running out of water precisely because of too much AG. We grow expensive nuts but they take huge amounts of water to grow.

It's just a little hypothetical r15.

Yes, it's just part of the US economy and that is how it is counted. However it's fun to point out that if you hypothetically separated out the GDP of California that it outranks almost all countries.

Of course if California were actually a stand alone country it would have a shit down more expenses and less generous trade agreements, so it's not an accurate comparison. Still it does show how staggeringly big the economy of California is.

Shit ton* more expenses. Oh dear.

R14 The third of my money the feds take each year should cover those expenses.

So will we be getting our own seat at the G7 conference?

And the money you get back, R19. You may pay more than you receive but you do take some back. And that’s before you’ll need to set up your own military.

R14 I don’t really want to leave the USA just pissed at Washingtons endless court games and the defense budget. But maybe we could have our own currency the California bud exchangeable at 1/ 40 th of an ounce of silver to the dollar. We would no longer accept the paper dollar or credit cards. Exchange booths at border crossings will provide the service s a public utility. Apple computer Facebook and the rest of them can move to your city and bring their blessings to with them. My gift.

Lifelong Californian here who actually loves California, and all I can say is that our state is like a country unto itself. Our geographical diversity is enough to set us apart from not only any other state, but most countries as well. We have great cities, beautiful beaches, alpine forests, deserts, a prairie, all in one great state. If people wanna leave, go ahead, but everytime I've traveled and people have asked where I'm from and I tell them California, they get pretty excited. Go ahead, bash California all you want, but I honestly don't believe anyone that lives here really cares.

Republicans want California to fail because it represents Democratic Party fiscal ideals.

Of course Dem fiscal policy works because it’s based on reality.

Kansas, which tried Republican fiscal policy, withered on the vine

What this is really showing is that blue states like California, NY, and Illinois are the engines of America.

R23 The Right wing nut jobs have purposely sought to exaggerate Blue state issues because blue states are economic engines and have great schools and a general great quality of life (which attracts tons of people including the homeless). . They’re threat to their narrative. They’re desperate to make a narrative of hellish crime and all sorts of cartoonish nonsense the low IQ eat up.

R24 BINGO!

A. It isn't it's own economy.

B. Shipping and Google count for most of it.

C. Do you know WHY Germany has allowed Cali's ascension?! Why don't you call Putin and say thank you, you sick fucks. This is exactly what everyone criticizes you for - don't celebrate this, you idiots. You're celebrating war.

California! The Greatest State!! 🏆

[quote]Eat it, Florida and Texas!

Ron DeSantis eats enough!

Says more about Germany and Europe actually. 📉

R30, exactly. Newsom shouldn't have tweeted about this- it's unbelievably impolitic.

R27 triggered troll

I'm an admirer of Germany (and also of California) but let's get real. Germany did not allow(ed) California's economy to pass it, as someone wrote who seemed to explain it away on the basis of the Ukraine War & putin. This trend has been building for years and the surpassing done by California over Germany in economic size is finally happening now. The past comparative economic data to support this long trend is clear on this fact.

The linked article explains why this is the case, despite Germany having approximately 80 million people as compared to California's 40 million. It's rooted in the comparative performance of businesses in California which are performing far better and growing far faster than those in Germany.

That's all...

CALIFORNIA IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY.

DO NOT MOVE TO FLORIDA OR TEXAS. THOSE PLACES ARE HORRIBLE.

GO TO #1 PLACE CALIFORNIA. MAGIC LAND OF DREAMS AND GOLD

A lot of the California hate is based on jealousy. Who really wants to live in Iowa, South Dakota, or Nebraska?

Floridians are like Thelma and Louise flying off that cliff, pedal to the metal. "We gonna own them libs!"

THAT'S RIGHT. IOWA NEBRASKA AND SOUTH DAKOTA ARE DOG SHIT. UNFIT FOR CALIFORNIANS USED TO FINERY AND CLASS.

PLEASE DON'T COME AND WHAT YOU DID TO IDAHO. NO, CALIFORNIA IS WHERE IT'S ADD. WE WORSHIP YOU. OOOH YOU'RE FROM CALIFORNIA! OOOH AHHH WOW AMAZING SO COOL. CALIFORNIA AND YOU ARE THE BEST!

This speaks more to the sad state of things in Germany and Europe currently. When the winter comes and everyone has to ration the little amounts of fuel they currently have over there due to the pipelines shut off, things will continue to spiral downwards. Without enough energy to power it's main economic centers, things will inevitably worsen.

The world is better without people who write IN ALL CAPS to disprove a point.

DAMN "STRAIGHT!"

The Russian trolls are freaking out.

Germany will be fine with the fuel issues. We can’t let Putin get away with doing what he’s doing. Period. And we aren’t. The whole fucking world suffered during both World Wars yet those were necessary to stop evil. We’ll stop it again. Europeans are tough. Weak beta whiny bitch Republicans aren’t.

It isn’t the fault of Blue states they are the economic engines, have high quality of life vs red states which are poor, shitty, moochers.

Texans pay more in taxes than Californians. In CA, the rich pay more. In TX, the middle class pays more. So TX double fucks the middle class.

Why then can't Calif fix it's shitty roads?

R43 all states have shitty roads. Many federal.

Hmm. I didn't think California was still a thing. No one actually still lives there anymore, do they?

The essence of California.

R46 Musk had hand in fucking that up on purpose.

Well said, R23.

[quote]We spit on those brokeass red states!

But we'll still pay for their Cheetos and the Mountain Dew they self-medicate with. You're welcome!

Calif roads are the worst in the country.

"Cali should secede. We don’t need your insane country."

Fine by us. We'll secede from Cali (and take the water that flows through our area before it gets to yours).

R50, I've never heard Fresno and Bakersfield talk so tough before. It's cute.

They don't get cute.

They get drop dead gorgeous.

This thread has much troll tears.

For everyone but the upper class, taxes are actually better in California than in Texas

When the wintry winds starts blowing

And the snow is starting in the fall

Then my eyes went westward knowing

That's the place that I love best of all

California i've been blue

Since i've been away from you

I can't wait 'till i get going

Even now i'm starting in a call

California, Here I Come

Right back where I started from

Where bowers of flowers

Bloom in the spring

Each morning at dawning

Birdies sing at everything

A sun-kissed miss said, "Don't be late!"

That's why I can hardly wait

Open up that golden gate

California, Here I Come!

Great food, often lovely weather, lots of cash, loads of gays, yet so tragic.

I've been noticing a lot of new roadwork being done here the last couple of years. A very bad road near my home was recently fixed finally.

BASF permanent cuts in Germany.

Red-state Log Cabin cunts must be wriggling in agony and raging envy!!!!

hahahaha! Go eat Abbott and DeSatanist's shit and die, cunts!

Even without California, the US is still number one. This must be so soul-crushing for shithole China then! hahahaha!

Xi must be having an apoplectic attack!!!

California is what every other US state wants to be

R60, just biding our time.

Soon they won’t be able to water their veggies. Sad last days. If the water crisis doesn’t fuck CA over, the wildfires, extreme heat and earthquakes will.

And the price of lettuce will go up for YOU, r63.

I've always thought the condition of the roads were due to the ground constantly shifting?

R63 All they need to do is build more desalination plants. The state is awash in money, it won't take much. Now there is no remedy for the hurricanes constantly battering Florida and the gulf coast, not to mention rising sea levels that will submerge the coasts.

Please talk to some NYers about whether they want to move to California r61.

California is a prime example of failing capitalism. Rich getting richer while homeless populations grow. SF and LA are a disgrace. But this will happen throughout the USA. Calif is the canary.

The rich have been getting richer and the middle class shrinking for decades all across America r68. That is the real "American dream* we have one of the highest income inequalities of any western nation r68.

We're fine, r68, shitty roads and all. We send our love...

The best and the brightest live in CA, NY, MA and CT. The rest of the country is full of hillbillies, sideshow freaks and gypsies.

[quote]The rest of the country is full of hillbillies, sideshow freaks and gypsies.

Don't forget us!

[quote] Please talk to some NYers about whether they want to move to California [R61].

I'm a NYer and would move to CA in a heartbeat.

[quote] California is a prime example of failing capitalism. Rich getting richer while homeless populations grow.

Thank you GOP for your federal tax laws.

What's stopping you r73? If you can afford a place in NYC you can afford a place in CA.

I don't understand why anyone would you put up with living in NY if you don't enjoy it personally.

It's too big to be managed with the infrastructure that it has (high taxes, outrageous gas prices, crime, homelessness, state agency fraud, local corruption, releasing prisoners, illegal immigrants flowing into the state, state programs for illegal immigrants - food stamps, meidcaid, reduced utilites, free housing). That is just the tip of all that is wrong. We are way to progressive and the state will only be left with the rich and poor.

I'm poor, r76, so I'll be just fine.

R76, and yet, it’s economy keeps growing and growing

Maybe the “problems” aren’t really so bad

[Quote] What's stopping you [R73]? If you can afford a place in NYC you can afford a place in CA. I don't understand why anyone would you put up with living in NY if you don't enjoy it personally.

My friends, family, and job are in NY. It would be too disruptive to move at this point. About 20 years ago, I had a real chance to move to SF. I kick myself that I didn’t take it. Maybe I’ll retire there because FL is out of the question

R78, yeah they are....

A less-publicized national index was just released showing California with the nation’s third worst state business tax climate.

Companies and residents are fed up and moving out.

R71 gypsies? Racist much?

R15 Yeah, it makes zero sense to have the US at number one and then California at number four, like CA isn't a part of the US

R81, it's a song by Cher. 🙄

R83 "hillbillies, sideshow freaks and gypsies" isn't a song by Cher

It should be. Maybe Carrie Underwood?

Look, some of us can't go back to California because all of our family live there. And they're awful.

But what is this psychotic defensiveness and weird competition? When did this all happen?

Everyone loves California, everyone loves Florida. Everyone goes to them to visit and vacation and retire and I don't want nature to destroy either.

Anyone acting this aggro is No Native Californian. Relax.

Tax trolls there are no age income taxes in TX

^typo. No state income tax

R87, but Texas taxes everything else, just like Florida.