Eldergays, Were Barbara Stanwyck and Nancy Sinatra an Item?

Frank would have liked that 😛

Wasn’t Frank Sinatra homophobic though?

^ That doesn't count for girl on girl action that turns straight guys on 🙄

I don’t see Nancy and Barbara inciting lust in men that way…

^ Frank Sinatra seemed to like it

He watched Nancy and Babs get it on r5? That’s what I meant. Two pinup types like Marilyn Monroe and Ava Gardner maybe…

^ Hey, he let Nancy Reagan blow him. He wasn't that picky

Ewww r7, he did?

Barbara was so aggressive in the sack she was known as "The Box Cutter" in elite Hollywood lesbian circles.

^ Yep, he even complimented her on her "talent"... "That broad could suck the chrome off a Cadillac"

I knew Nancy Sr and Barbara, and I really doubt it. Of course, this was in their later years so don't know about younger.

Maybe they were just kindred spirits, having both been dumped by their husbands for younger, dishier women.

I doubt it, though Barbara Stanwyck has always pinged to me. She seems like a closeted lesbian, similar to Natasha Lyonne.

Barbara was linked in her early days to Crawford and Dietrich. Allegedly. Also her agent Helen Ferguson.

[quote]Wasn’t Frank Sinatra homophobic though?

Yes, especially when he suspected Ava had a girlfriend...

This was not a lesbian to be messed with...

Well, they never sucked MY cock!

R15 I've long wondered if the rumors about Lana experimenting with muff were true. I sort of wouldn't be surprised—she does have a bit of a lipstick lesbian vibe about her. Her daughter, an open lesbian, also does—she's very femme. Lana clearly loved cock, but she never really had a stable relationship with a man, despite her numerous valiant attempts.

Lana's taste in men was for shit- one a kiddie didler, another a fraudster. That's just for starters.

R19 don't forget the horse-hung mobster whose aorta she severed with a kitchen knife.

@r17, Yeah, Tallulah, I think they did 🤔

Stanwyck was a creepy right-wing Republican. She would have loved Trump.

Tina Sinatra pings to me way more than her mother.

R2 Sinatra wasn't homophobic--he was quite open for his time. He was great friends with Noel Coward and he got a kick out of Truman Capote. Sinatra had his faults, but he did a lot to fight racism and no problem with the gays.

I don't like her politics but I don't think there was anything creepy about Barbara Stanwyck. She was just a fairly rigid, work hard type and probably despised anybody who wasn't. I'm not sure she would have loved a complete grifter scumbag like Trump. I suspect not.

Sinatra thought Ava had an affair with Lena Horne, and gave LH the cold shoulder after that.

They sang on a 1960 TV show (below), you can see how much he hates her. I figure she did the show because Kay Thompson did vocal arrangements for it.

I knew Barbara through her animator niece Kathy, who inherited most of her estate. Barbara was an old school Republican - not a crazy person.

Barbara was no bigot, just someone who had no help whatsoever making her mark in the world. She felt like that if she made it without handouts, it should be like that for everyone else. She didn’t have much empathy. I do have issues with that right wing group she belonged to-The Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals. Some of the members like Hedda Hopper, John Wayne, Walter Brennan and Ronald Reagan WERE bigoted and racist. But others like herself, Ayn Rand and Gary Cooper, were not. How she felt comfortable with those losers I’ll never understand.

"How she felt comfortable with those losers I’ll never understand."

She was plenty comfortable. I love Stanwyck as an actress, but I can't ignore her right-wing politics. She was more than happy to name names for HUAC.

R29, Stanwyck stayed out of that. It was her dippy husband Robert Taylor who named names for HUAC.

Notice she didn’t join John Wayne and publicly support the Vietnam war or Nixon. She didn’t condemn radicals, she didn’t complain about the new “dirty” movies like Ann Miller did. Stanwyck appeared on the dais for the Urban League in 1960, she didn’t blame blacks for their fate like John Wayne. She was an endless supporter of Native American rights. Etc etc

Barbara was in this movie with Clark Gable. They were filming in Indianapolis and she brought her African American maid and companion Harriet with her. When she tried to check in at the hotel the studio got for her, the concierge told her that Harriet couldn’t stay there. Barbara supposedly told him that they would stay at the best colored hotel in the city and that she’d tell the newspapers what happened. Don’t know how that ended, but she wasn’t prejudiced by the standards of that era.