Joan Crawford Was Cut from the movie "Rosemary's Baby"

Wow, Roman Polanski is really short.

Joan obviously just pulled something out of her closet for that photo.

What was her role going to be?

Wasn't she background?

^ No darling Bette,

I had an "over 5" part - you know, the kind of part you sucked every low-level crew member in Hollywood for?

[quote]What was her role going to be?

She was supposed to play Satan, but they couldn't get the hair off of Joan's back and shoulders for the sex scene with Rosemary.

IIRC, There was a scene where Rosemary went to see "The Fantasticks" on Broadway with one of her girlfriends, and they met or saw Joan in the theatre lobby.

Exactly, r7....except it's Off-Broadway.

How was "The Fantasticks" playing Off-Broadway?

That show was huge.

No, r9, that show was small, very...

It never played on Broadway

From the article: (A) mishap happened when Van Johnson first spotted Polanski, particularly his striking schnoz.

“Who’s that, Pinocchio?” quipped Johnson, completely clueless.

This sent the excitable Polanski into a tizzy of horror.

“Get off my set, everybody!” he shrieked, clearing all the stars and non-stars away.

[quote]She was supposed to play Satan, but they couldn't get the hair off of Joan's back and shoulders for the sex scene with Rosemary.

I see that Mrs. Thalberg took some producer's cock out of her mouth long enough to comment.

Her cameo at the theatre with Van (2 former MGM contract players) would have been way too camp and distracting.

[quote]"The Fantasticks" opened in 1960 at the 150-seat Sullivan Street Playhouse in Greenwich Village

I'll take your word about "The Fantasticks"...I wasn't around.

But the songs "Try to Remember" were big - I just assumed it was a hit show with a long run on Broadway.

That's exactly the way it is in show business.

You fuck everybody, including the devil, and they don't even get you tickets to a "Broadway" show

[quote]"The Fantasticks" opened in 1960 at the 150-seat Sullivan Street Playhouse in Greenwich Village

And it was a long schlep from the Bramford down to the Village in those days...believe me.

That Musto story sounds like so much made up bullshit.

[quote]I'll take your word about "The Fantasticks"...I wasn't around.

[quote]I just assumed it was a hit show with a long run on Broadway

No, r16, it was a hit show Off-Broadway that ran a record setting 42 years. You weren't around in 2002?

^ we don't live very long in my village.

(And we don't get many Broadway/Off-Broadway shows either.)

r20 or Google

Who can even remember this trashy movie - did it play anything but drive-ins?

"Dead Ringer" now that was a FILM for the ages...

[quote](And we don't get many Broadway/Off-Broadway shows either.)

Darfur, I saw Equus at the Malaria Pit Playhouse in the next village over -- just a quick Uber ride from your village.

“Dead Ringer” may be ridiculous trash but Bette acts the fuck out of it. Crawfish probably thought Polanski was a rude little upstart who should have stayed in Poland.

[quote]Darfur, I saw Equus at the Malaria Pit Playhouse in the next village over -- just a quick Uber ride from your village.

We are very happy for you and your wonderful experience.

Could you please ask this "Uber" to bring us something to eat if possible?

[quote]“Dead Ringer” may be ridiculous trash but Bette acts the fuck out of it.

That was kind of Bette's problem - she acted "the fuck out of" everything she did.

Old fags fagging away like fucking crazy on this thread. Do you live through Joan and Bette? Rhetorical.

Do better. This is really sad.

If you want a Joan Crawford thread, don't enter her sideways. Just announce your old fag status and welcome the same few others who always talk this SHIT!!!

Rosemary's Baby is a great film. One of THE greatest. Made by a counter culture director and carefully chosen cast. Nobody was going fuck it up by putting the hideous FAG acting of Joan Crawford in it.

^ Look at this young hipster fag who is so familiar with Roman Polanski

[quote]“Dead Ringer” may be ridiculous trash but Bette acts the fuck out of it

Bette *never* gave less than 100%. There was only a problem if she was miscast or the material subpar. Like I've quoted before regarding Stanwyck:

[quote]She may never have been as good as Davis at her best, but she was never as bad as Davis at her worst. In fact she never gave a bad performance.

The art of film would benefit greatly if Lucille had been cut from many, many films.

Is that Matt Damon at R28?

Interesting fact. If it really is true, I wonder if Polanski actually shot the scene and if the film of that scene still exists. I'd love to see it.

I don't know, r32, I have 28 blocked...apparently for good reason.

I think Joan's Texas (or drunken, or both) accent comes out in this clip, starting at about 1:15

I am a young hipster fag familiar with Roman Polanski, r29. What's so strange about that? I'm 39, educated, employed in the arts and a fan of (some) old films.

I'm also familiar with the faggy attraction to Joan Crawford on Datalounge. It's like those unfathomable M & G posts. They're witless excuses for old white fags to practice being old white queens. Y'all don't get out much anymore. That shit don't fly. It's gross.

It's like the ancient white fags are all stuck in The Boys In The Band movie? You're now pushing 85 years old. And it was never funny. Just mean and desperate and over acted.

Like..... Joan Crawdad.

[quote]That shit don't fly.

Wow, you ARE young and edgy!

Excuse me, but you really have to have attitude to carry off a bib necklace.

You ARE the prototypical ANCIENT WHITE RACIST FAG of DL. As you prove everyday. From multiple accounts, R37.

I'd like to think that R28, and R36 is Christina Crawford.

Yeah, r38. I do.

[quote]I'd like to think that [R28], and [R36] is Christina Crawford.

It's no wonder you don't have your Christmas card listed finished as I asked you too.

You have been wasting your time trolling on that horrible homosexual website, haven't you?

^ Mrs Steele is clearly a few drinks in here...

Roman cut Joan due to her tipsy, Pepsi display.

[quote]Roman cut Joan due to her tipsy, Pepsi display.

Why, I simply brushed against his crotch-area with my pert buttocks.

Whoever could misinterpret that?

After Joan's Trench sister scenes were cut, she stated, " I don't eat babies, I buy them and wait."

Joan, never one to be upstaged, kept pushing Mia into traffic.

Okay - that's funny R46. Gay male fathers are like that too.

Joan: "No, I don't know where Mia went."

(muttered); "But I'm sure she's found the booze and the boys wherever she is."

The bib, the bones, no buccal fat.

JC- "Roman, I want this part, but can't you "beef" it up a bit? Make it meatier. Something, I can really sink my teeth into."

RP-"You almost had me, Joan. No deal. No teeth."

What was she going to play, the baby?

r28 is the Ancient White Fag troll. I can spot his random rageful venom anywhere.

Joan would have been the perfect Minnie. The Castevet spilt wine scene would have been cutting. So would the suspected suicide scene. Chills.

It's rather hard to miss, r53.

I would have loved it if Joan had played the angry school nun lipsyncing to Minnie's voice in Rosemary's first bad dream.

Here is the dish.

Rutanya Alda — best known as Carol Ann in Mommie Dearest — just told me a remarkable story.

Rutanya was Mia Farrow‘s stand-in for the 1968 suspense classic Rosemary’s Baby.

When Mia was late to shoot a bit where she and a girlfriend go to see the Off-Broadway musical The Fantasticks, director Roman Polanski decided to start shooting with Rutanya standing in.

Part of the scene had screen icons Joan Crawford and Van Johnson (as themselves) being spotted by Rosemary in the lobby for some reason.

But that paled compared with the off-screen shenanigans.

Remembers Rutanya:

“Joan came over to me and said, ‘Hello! I’m Joan Crawford!’

“She thought I was Mia Farrow!”

Or maybe she just knew she’d just spotted the future Carol Ann.

Another wacky mishap happened when Van Johnson first spotted Polanski, particularly his striking schnoz.

“Who’s that, Pinocchio?” quipped Johnson, completely clueless.

This sent the excitable Polanski into a tizzy of horror.

“Get off my set, everybody!” he shrieked, clearing all the stars and non-stars away.

Joan obliged, but not before grandly intoning, “You should learn to have the manners of a William Castle.”

(Castle was the movie’s producer and had already directed Joan in enjoyable B flicks like Strait-Jacket and I Saw What You Did.)

When Mia finally showed up, Polanski decided the whole scene was not worth doing.

Van (homo) Johnson insulted Roman Polanski while on the set. Scene cut.

It looks like Joan and Van were invited to the premiere anyway.

Joan might have made a fascinating yet very different Minnie Castevet, but Ruth was iconic.

Rutanya Alda is almost as big a liar as Michael Musto.

^ and that's the real truth ^

A story like this doesn't stay hidden for 40 years. The closest Joan Crawford got to appearing in Rosemary's Baby was while cleaning her TV screen.

"Hello, I'm Joan Crawford. So how did you get this stand in job, anyway. Strasberg, bullshit. You don't get a plumb job that way, you get it lying on your back."

There are no small parts, only small directors.

Johnson and Crawford would both offer their services to be part of that film. Together, as a two-fer. Probably done it before.

Gossip spelled backwards is Pissog. That story is a load of Pissog. :-)

I believe Carole Ann

I would've been fabulous in that movie...

I'd been studying Bette Davis up close for decades at that point...I knew how to play evil incarnate.

I believe I would have been perfect in the beautiful young ingenue role of Rosemary Woodhouse.

Those horrible witches at the Bramford...

they never would have tried to pull this with my daughter...Veda

Liars, all. I bowed-out because I realized the movie was not a comedy as I had been led to believe, but a real weirdo.

I'm pitching the prequels to "Rosemary's Baby"

1. The Trench Sisters - staring Beanie Feldstein and Lea Michele

2. The Keith Kennedy Business - staring Billy Eichner

3. Pearl Ames - Demi Lovato

with the success of Dahmer, Netflix is going to be panting to option this three-picture deal!

[quote]Liars, all. I bowed-out because I realized the movie was not a comedy as I had been led to believe, but a real weirdo.

Not to mention, the Smirnoff provided by the production company was the inferior 80 proof variety...a clear sign of inferior production.

From Joan Crawford's interview with "Ladies' Home Journal"

[italic]"Actually, I had recently finished filming an episode of "The Lucy Show" with Lucille Ball, who as you know is known as the devil's own cunt, and deservedly so..."

"Working with Lucy was quite an ordeal."

"I simply wasn't prepared to do battle with the forces of Evil again quite so soon."

R50 is the definition of beauty.

I actually helped Mrs. Gardenia move her highboy to block that closet door...before that short, ill-tempered young director Mr. Polanski unceremoniously fired me...

and had me removed from the set without ever paying me!

I hadn't even finished my wardrobe fitting when that little ill-tempered director had his outburst.

"The Exorcist" originally included a scene where Chris and Regan MacNeil go to see "Godspell" at Ford's Theater and are thrilled to encounter Joan Crawford and Van Johnson in the lobby. When little Regan asks Miss Crawford for her autograph, she becomes so excited that she loses control of her bladder and urinates on the star's ankle-strap pumps, provoking the furious Crawford to slap the girl and ask her rhetorically, "And you thought Pazuzu was scary?" Surprisingly, preview audiences rejected the scene as "far too disturbing, even for a horror movie".

^ Those were very expensive designer pumps.

The devil baby dared to psychically levitate one if her flasks of vodka from its thigh strap, affixing his bottle nipple to the top and chugging away. Lucille then made him cry by snapping "I should have known you'd know where to findbthe Beelzebub AND the booze!" He refused to work with her after that.

I tried to persuade Mr. Polanski that my friend Bette would have been perfect for the part of Laura-Louise McBirney...you know, a coarse little round woman, who clearly drinks heavily, with very low-slung breasts that rest on her belly...

But alas, at that point, poor Bette's reputation was too well known in Hollywood...

Too true, r74. The AWF got the red tag. Very amusing!

Henceforth I shall imagine Joan in the role of Mrs. Gardenia.

I know there are some Doubting Daisies on here, but I am stating my boundaries right now: If Michael Musto tells me that Rutanya Alda told him that Van Johnson called Polanski "Pinocchio," then by god, I believe every word of it.

The AWF troll is finally redtagged! Praise Jesus!

I really thought there'd be more Ruth Gordon shitwig truthers than what OP's collected so far.

[quote]The AWF troll is finally redtagged! Praise Jesus!

I may no longer be in Hollywood, darlings...

But I'm still doing my part for humanity

R16

No, The Fantasticks was famously a long-running off-Broadway show.

R57, how is what you posted different than what R8 already posted?

[quote]I am a young hipster

[quote]I'm 39

LOL!

"You know, when I shared a dressing room wall with Bette at Warner Brothers, I remember hearing a lot of non-musical chanting, and other odd occurrences similar to Rosemary's at The Bramford."

"It's all beginning to make sense now..."

Poor Lucille. Reduced to unpaid cameos.

Rosemary's Baby was a William Castle production. Joan starred in two of his films Strait-Jacket and I Saw What You Did!

Yes, Mr. Castle was a frequent dinner guest of Miss Joan's.

[quote]r59 Joan might have made a fascinating yet very different Minnie Castevet, but Ruth was iconic.

Grande Dame Crawford would have tipped her hand too early that Minnie is evil. No way could she have pulled a characterization of “innocuous elderly neighbor” off.

I mean…

[quote]Grande Dame Crawford would have tipped her hand too early that Minnie is evil. No way could she have pulled a characterization of “innocuous elderly neighbor” off.

Ha, maybe, but I think Joan would have been her phony, saccharine, sweet self, and almost convinced the audience she was for real, while of course being a total monster, just like in her real life. She would have handled the turnaround very well, and been a total bitch, and of course a witch. Funny to think about.

Joan was unfortunate;y cut from many movies in her later years. She played a call girl who traded trips for pleasing johns ("NO TEETH!") with Bree in "Klute,"and a rural señora who makes tortillas for the killers from "The Wild Bunch," but both excellent small performances wound up on the cutting room floor. Even her brief cameo as a corpse floating by Gene Hackman in "The Poseidon Adventure" was cut for time.

^ Oh Bette, please do keep up with writing your creative fan fiction.

You may actually sell something one day, then made you can afford to get your low bosom lifted and your distended belly flattened.

[quote]Joan Crawford Was Cut

Pics please.

[quote]Joan Crawford Was Cut - Pics please.

Look at any photo of her in later life...bitch had more stitches in her head than a quilt.