Patti LuPone Has Had Sufficient !!!

She's looking ROUGH. She seems like such a B....

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Big deal, I gave up my V Card at a circus.

Does she have COVID, again?

This is what caused Patti to say “enough”.

Once you've played Momma Rose and then Joanne in "Company," there are basically no good roles in musical theater for her to play anymore. She's aged out of them.

Even for a Broadway legend, this cunt is a DRAMA QUEEN.

She should have yelled back

Well now, is she out of Company, as of today?

Most of her fans perished in hurricane Ian, so it's probably time.

[quote] “Quite a week on Broadway, seeing my name bandied about."

Translated:

KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MOUTHS!!!

(Why people think they somehow have the right to demand that blows my mind.)

[quote]Figure it out.

I don't care that much.

It's nice to be at a point where you can just say "fuck it".

Good for Patti.

I can't decide whether this story is the ghost of Christmas future for Lea or the desired goal.

I saw 'The Elephant Man' on Broadway and two ladies down front kept talking through the show. Finally, one lead, politely turned to them and in an informal personal way, looked right at them and said everyone could hear what they are saying, but paid to come hear me. People gasped, but he went right on with the show. Marvelous show!

I don't understand why she would turn in her Equity card over this. How do you connect the issue to the union?

Ryan Murphy needs to produce “Feud: Patti vs the Hearing Impaired”.

[quote]Well now, is she out of Company, as of today?

Since it closed in July, I think EVERYONE is out of "Company."

R15 "Everyone can hear what you're saying, but paid to come hear me."

Things I will be saying the next time I'm interrupted in a department meeting. Bless you.

Life goes on.

She looks like a man in drag.

Educate me, please. Doesn’t giving up her equity card also mean giving up benefits such as health insurance and access to senior living supports?

You'll never be a star now, you cunt.

Enough what? Enough of people using their cell phones in the theater? Enough of people with hearing problems not being allowed to use their cell phones in the theater? ENOUGH WHAT?

[quote]I don't understand why she would turn in her Equity card over this

There's a difference between her turning her card in, and deciding to publicly say she has.

If it was Lillias White who yelled at the audience member, why would Patti quit? Just because a bunch of people on Twitter assumed it was Patti?

The unicorn that is Patti LuPone has left the circus.

"When the run of COMPANY ended this past July, I knew I wouldn't be on stage for a very long time. And at that point I made the decision to resign from Equity.​​​​​"

Omg

Fuck it, we'll cast Patti Labelle instead.

Why doesn't she just prompt security to deal with suspected recorders? Hasn't she screamed at the audience in the past?

The end of an era.

Neither Lillias White nor Patti has ever slapped anybody so I think we're all good

[quote] Why doesn't she just prompt security to deal with suspected recorders? Hasn't she screamed at the audience in the past?

Contacting security or house management would not give her the enjoyable release of sanctimoniously screaming at people.

Patti can slap with the best of them.

Does this mean her future lies in productions with community theater in suburban Connecticut?

"The Westport Pepperpot Players is proud to present MISS PATTI LUPONE as Mrs. Sally Adams in 'Call Me Madam'!"

Who wants to die for art!?

[quote]"When the run of COMPANY ended this past July, I knew I wouldn't be on stage for a very long time. And at that point I made the decision to resign from Equity.​​​​​"

Because she's not up to it? Because she doesn't think anybody will cast her? Because there are no more roles she wants to play? Because she's got TV/movie projects lined up?

She must not need the money. Good for her.

r29 Where's that quote from?

Maybe the eboot of "Life Goes On" will happen and Patti is going to do that....

I think this is because of the rave reviews that Lea Michele is getting.

She’s vested in the Equity pension plan and I assume she can still collect on it. She also has SAG-AFTRA membership.

The offers are pouring in.

She can go from one Great White Way to another.

She’s got work on the gay cruise circuit

R41 The quote is from that Playbill article OP posted.

Patti can be the counterpoint contributor on the OAN Trump debates.

Some advice to Patti from King George III...

Enough is enough is enough I can't go on I can't go on no more, no

Couldn't she have just said she's retiring from Broadway? Was the dramatic announcement of giving up her Equity card really necessary? She could return in the future which makes it rather awkward to issue a statement later saying, "Whoops, changed my mind."

If she returned to Broadway and never gave up her Equity card, then she could just say that a particular role came along that was just too good to pass up. But by giving up the Equity card makes the whole thing uber bitchy and cunty.

She can continue to do concerts. I've seen her three times, all excellent shows.

She's going to open a sand candle shop in Bushwick, Brooklyn.

Is it necessary to give up one’s equity card? Is it expensive to maintain? Are there yearly dues? Why not just hold onto it for just in case?

And yet you Marys would still be falling all over yourselves frantically trying to get to your credit cards if she tweeted that she was gonna be appearing in a production of FOLLIES next month.

Guilty as charged R55.

[quote] But by giving up the Equity card makes the whole thing uber bitchy and cunty.

That's our Patti!!

Who would Patti play in Follies? She isn't right for any of those roles.

[quote] And yet you Marys would still be falling all over yourselves frantically trying to get to your credit cards if she tweeted that she was gonna be appearing in a production of FOLLIES next month.

At this age? Who would she play? She's too old to be Phyllis or Sally.

Maybe she could be Stella.

Or Heidi!

"VAWN LAHST KEESS BEFORE VE PART..."

She's a born Buddy.

One small mention in BuzzFeed is her "name being bandied about"?

This is all drama. If a producer wanted Patti to play a role and Patti wanted to do it, she’d get Equity status.

She didn’t quit. She retired her membership. She can very easily take it up again.

I enjoyed Patti's autobiography, but some of it read like she could very well be a "Karen." Show biz has always been cutthroat, and she really took offense at Andrew Lloyd Webber screwing her over twice (once for Evita and later, again, for Sunset Boulevard). But some of those instances could honestly be cracked up to wanting strong box office returns, especially in Sunset's case. Why *wouldn't* ALW want a major Hollywood star to open that show on Broadway? Is it possible Patti wasn't easy to work with and that also tipped the scales in someone else's favor? She has had issues on sets before, and we tend to hear mostly her version of events, but just maybe she is the problem.

I certainly can forgive Lilias White yelling at an audience member and assuming the device was a phone. People do that kind of thing all of the time now, and it's obnoxious enough just for the audience around them who choose to behave and actually watch the show on stage instead of checking social media or recording it. Anyone doing that should be evicted from the theater immediately. The visually or hearing impaired should have their devices marked somehow so it is clear to everyone that it's an aid and not simply rude behavior.

It’s all they can talk about at the Olive Garden R61.

Thank goodness for the never-ending breadsticks, salads and soup.

Make em wear dunce caps!

Don't let the stage door hit you in your considerable ass!

[quote] I certainly can forgive Lilias White yelling at an audience member and assuming the device was a phone. People do that kind of thing all of the time now, and it's obnoxious enough just for the audience around them who choose to behave and actually watch the show on stage instead of checking social media or recording it.

I can't.

That's the job of the ushers and the house management, and absolutely [bold]not[/bold] the job of the performers.

By interrupting the show to scold an audience member, the performers only make everything uncomfortable for the rest of the audience and bring them out of it.

The only time it's allowable to me is if the audience member is using flash photography, which can endanger people on stage and so needs to be stopped immediately. Otherwise, the actor is just being a control freak and should be more "in" the moment anyway rather than monitoring the audience.

[quote]r51 If she returned to Broadway and never gave up her Equity card, then she could just say that a particular role came along that was just too good to pass up. But by giving up the Equity card makes the whole thing uber bitchy and cunty.

Maybe she’s very practical with money, and sees no point in paying yearly dues if she really has no intention of returning to the stage?

This doesn't have anything to do with new DL Fave Sara Porkalob, does it?

r68: In which case she shouldn't be making dramatic announcements that she's resigned for political reasons.

that word 'bandied' is homophobic!

It’ll be ironic once Patti starts going deaf.

bandied?

Huh?

[quote]r69 This doesn't have anything to do with new DL Fave Sara Porkalob, does it?

Is Sara the new Beanie?

If so, I don’t think that’s fair.

[quote]R70 In which case she shouldn't be making dramatic announcements that she's resigned for political reasons.

I missed the “political reasons.”

Help me!

Patti's pissed. Lea Michele is the toast of the town.

Oh please, Patti could eat a bitch like Lea for breakfast.

Patti LuPone killed Angela Lansbury!

I'm glad that she has the self-awareness tp realize that her career is quickly coming to and end.

Patti had a contract to appear in Sunset on Broadway hence successfully getting the funds for her pool out of Lloyd Webber. See r63? Quite simple really.

Patti LuPone is 73 years old, a little past the time when one loses their voice. She sounded great in Company, but really, how long could that last, a couple of years? I figure she doesn't want to go the way of numerous other old singing divas who go one stage sounding like shit. HEAR THAT MISS STREISAND?

I guess we'll never get to see Patti singing whilst in a wheelchair.

[quote] Oh please, Patti could eat a bitch like Lea for breakfast.

Quite literally, if her waistline is any indication.

OP- She look like a GUY in your photo.

She looka like a MAN!

There are few roles for people of her age. I cannot see her playing Madame Armfeldt or the Widow in Candide, and lacks the charm for Berthe in Pippin.

70, Girls, 70 is a show about old people.

What about Dear World for Patti?

Dear. World. is. MINE.

[quote] 70, Girls, 70 is a show about old people.

That's not going to be revived.

[quote] What about Dear World for Patti?

That's not going to be revived.

[quote] I cannot see her playing... the Widow in Candide,

She already has.

Reality ain't gettin' revived either, hun.

Patti for Girl Crazy!

How about plays , television, or film? Doesn't have to be a musical.

Stoned Pilla!

There goes the last midnight chance of seeing Patti LuPone close out Into the Woods as the Witch

They were gonna save so much money on the “before” makeup

But she'll never give up her Bitch Card!

Does Actors' Equity cover just Broadway and stage and is separate from SAG?

Can she still do movies and tv?

[quote]Couldn't she have just said she's retiring from Broadway?

She'd already said Company was her last show

[quote]Was the dramatic announcement of giving up her Equity card really necessary?

Your life must be really dull if you think her tweet was "dramatic"

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[quote] Your life must be really dull if you think her tweet was "dramatic"

Oh, you fully [italic]tried[/italic] to make it dramatic, Patti, and you fucking well know it.

Don't think you can feed us your bullshit and expect us to swallow.

She can get her card back if she has a contract. This is all about attention, unless she really needs the $176/year for dues.

I’ve had my card handy in my wallet since 1969.

When is it MY TURN?

Patti has yet to play Martha Jefferson in 1776 and still can in an all inclusive production. She can shriek through it today as well as Betty did in 1969.

The young deaf woman should have told the actress that she's not worth recording.

PATTI LUPONE IS A FUCKING CUNT!!!!

[quote]Why *wouldn't* ALW want a major Hollywood star to open that show on Broadway?

Well, why didn't he get one then?

Patty Lupone is ROTTEN.

She'll never play Princess Puffer now.

Remember when she cussed that audience member out. What a cunt.

[quote] looked right at them and said everyone could hear what they are saying, but paid to come hear me.

Or, as Patti would say, "Shut your hole honey, mine's making money!"

Here's what I glean:

There was friction between Patti and Katrina Lenk, the lead of Company. Early in the run, they would exist the curtain call arm-in-arm. At some point they stopped doing that. Also, when Patti went on her "Chris Columbus (or whoever it was) pays my salary" rant, you could see that Lenk had a "not this again" look on her face.

I believe Patti was ANNOYED when the mask mandate for Broadway shows was lifted at the end of June. I think that might be why she turned in her Equity card. And, I think she exited the show as soon as she was contractually allowed, which pissed off the other members of the cast, because she was somewhat of a draw, having just won the Tony.

It's all very sad. I adore Patti LuPone, but unfortunately her temper sometimes gets the best of her. I can understand, however, her being upset about the mask mandate lifting. After all, she's 73, and she'd already had Covid once.

I very disappointing ending to her Broadway career, if this is it.

R112/PF, why is the P in LuPone a capital letter? It doesn't seem to have any basis in the name's (Italian) origins, unlike, say, DeWitt.

She should play Dorothy Brock in 42nd Street. She'd probably get a fourth Tony.

[Quote] why is the P in LuPone a capital letter?

Affectation.

I believe Patti was fed up with the bias rumblings on social media between her situation with an audience member and Lillias White’s interaction with one.

She's too old to play Dorothy Brock.

At age 73, all she's fit for is Madame Armfeldt and Jerry Herman's "Mrs. Santa Claus."

How silly, if true r116.

Patti was too old to play Rose. Nobody cares if Dorothy Brock is "mature."

She can always play Dolly Levi. But my god that would be a horror show.

She could do "Dear World."

[Quote] She can always play Dolly Levi. But my god that would be a horror show.

She was supposed to, but she got pipped to the post by Bette and... Zaks, was it?

If Bette could do Dolly in her 70s Patti could do Mame. And who wouldn't want to see that?

But Patti is more a Vera than a Mame.

Better look out or she will kick you right in the ASL.

Patti is also more of a Petra than an Armfeldt, Mme or Desiree.

“You figure it out.” Isn’t that a line from “Mommie Dearest”?

Broadway died with Angela.

[quote] Or, as Patti would say, "Shut your hole honey, mine's making money!"

R111 I didn’t realize LuPone studied with Merman.

R112, no friction between Patti and Katrina. Patti adored her.

Patti did not adore Sherie Scott.

Patti did a masterclass with Ernest Borgnine at Julliard.

After taking a look at OP's photo, I think we all know the best role for Patti: "Ivana Trump: Sad Last Days"

Maybe they should musicalize The Manchurian Candidate for her.

R131, which is a shame because Sherie Rene Scott would actually be a terrific Big Edie/Little Edie if they revived Grey Gardens - and second act Big Edie would be on the very short list of parts Patti could still do.

She looks like a poorly made up drag queen

People were slamming Patti for stopping Gypsy like Lillias stopping Hadestown. Patti was fucking pissed by this so is like 'I'm leaving Broadway for good you shits!' She's not but she's an old Italian lady and lives for melodrama.

She could play Dorothy in a "Golden Girls" musical.

Patti/COCO

Patti could play Sophia's sister. That's about it.

Hasn't she already quit Broadway once? After War Paint she said THAT would be her last musical then she did Company.

Andrew Rannells will now be up for the roles for which Patti was previously considered.

Is the Veronica Cartwright character in the Witches of Eastwick musical? Patti could play that.

I want to see her turn in her card or we'll get the change of heart.

Patti explains in this video why she is retiring. I don't understand why she had a hip replacement since she isn't a dancer. Was she ever in an accident?

Patti could play the Veronic Cartwright character in a musical version of The Birds directed and designed by Julie Taymor.

She should do a disco album.

[Quote] I don't understand why she had a hip replacement since she isn't a dancer.

She danced in EVITA and Anything Goes.

[Quote] She should do a disco album.

She used to sing Paul Jabara's "Heaven Is a Disco" in her act. It's surprising that she never got a major label contract. She's as ill suited to pop music as Liza Minnelli but still...

R67- I think Patti being in the moment of Rose’s Turn is why she screamed.

The lifting of the mask mandate is the most logical reason. Why should she jeopardize her health at her age?

[quote] She's as ill suited to pop music as Liza Minnelli but still...

Excuse me but Results is one of the greatest albums ever!!!

[quote]She'd already said Company was her last show

She said War Paint was going to be her last show.

I'd be fine never hearing another word about her again.

The answer is the same as it was when it was questioned *very* recently, r145. Many older people need hip replacements, not just dancers. She might not have been a dancer, but her lifetime on the stage still takes a physical toll.

In OP's link, Ms. LuPone looks like man in drag.

Then again, she's never been an attractive woman.

We all get the face we deserve!

Patti better beware!

Oh, yeah and I also won't miss that hatchet face

She's 73 years old. She has reached the peak of success in her field. It's time to retire and have some fun. Visit places she's never been. Try new things. Operate on her own schedule.

What more does she have to do to please people?

Patti for Mrs. Brice!

Team Patti

Patti as Fanny Brice!

[Quote] What more does she have to do to please people?

Yes, Patti's problem is that she's always been a people pleaser.

Tovah Feldshuh better watch out, or it will be Patti who ends up playing Leona Helmsley on Broadway!

I adore Patti. Doesn't bother me that she can be the ultimate diva.

She's not distancing herself too far from Equity. If they're late with a pension payment, they will certainly be hearing from her

How about Barbra and Patti do a remake of the song, "Enough is Enough?"

You're gonna hear from me!

Does her pussy stink? Well does it?????

You can't be the ultimate Diva if you've never been Box Office...

Does Patti still miss Kevin Kline’s dick?

What does that even mean?

r172 = William Frawley.

Miss Patti Lu is my kind of bitch. Would not want to share a cross-town cab with her, however.

r168 Patti IS Daisy Clover!

I'm sure she could handle one of the parts in the new "1776."

Don't tread on me, LuPone!

If they do a "stage Harry Potter" on a revival of "Henry, Sweet Henry," Patti could sing "Poor Little Person."

Patti has never been boffo box office but Company had to close when she left.

Patti could be " Hold Me, Touch Me," In " The Producers" at The Villages in Fla.

Patti could be Harold in The Boys In The Band.

There's no role now that Patti is suited for. Unless someone writes a musical for her (FAT CHANCE OF THAT), she'll be relegated to FBI and L&O episodes. Better yet, lock her in the basement with her pinball machines.

And now she's white and only one sexuality.

What about a musical version of Carmilla/Countess Dracula? Patti could share the role with someone young and pretty.

She’ll do an Only Fans.

Do you need an equity card to do Big Brother Australia?

There is one, r184...

Patti will play Nancy Pelosi someday-she’s perfect for her.

Would "I'm Gonna Punch Him Out" be the 11 o'clock number for that musical r188 ?

Patti could do The Masked Singer, Celebrity Fit Club...

How about "Don't Poo Poo Nancy"?

How about Patti LuPone and Bill Smitrovich in a television remake of "On Golden Pond"?

Why does she have to do anything? Let her enjoy her houses and millions. She can always tour in her one woman show if she get bored.

Nathan Lane in WAR OF THE ROSES, starring Patti LuPone.

She's far too old to play Norma Desmond in the much anticipated, box office boffo Sunset Boulevard, that's certain.

How much do you think she would have earned in her career?

This...

and this...

She’s such a miserable old cunt.

"Broadway Celebrity Mole" with Patti, Mandy Patinkin, Sara Porkalob, Kristen Chenoweth, Beanie Feldstein, Lea Michele, Tovah Feldshuh, Lillias White ...

... and Julie Benko as the Mole!

"Who ... has ... SHAT ... in my WIG?" — Patti

She's *our* miserable old cunt, r199, lay off her!

She gave me da suk job!

The only time I ever get a flash of what it's like to be Meryl Streep is when we discuss Patti LuPone.

[quote]But by giving up the Equity card makes the whole thing uber bitchy and cunty.

She gave it up before all this happened, but the truth isn't as fun as what you've made up in your head, is it?

DLers are consistently inconsistent. Constant wailing about "the woke" all over the board 24/7, day in and day out, but now that "the woke" are after someone DL dislikes, suddenly you're all repeating their Twitter talking points and agreeing with everything they say.

I also don't think the eight or nine actual gays who are left on here realize that a lot of the hate for people like LuPone comes from the rightwing straights who have invaded, and are perpetually angry with any celebrity that is identified as being liberal and/or Democrat.

No one cares enough about Patty Lapone to be angry with her.

She’ll be back to take on the starring role of Edna Garrett in THE FACTS OF LIFE: THE MUSICAL!

She should really play Miss Hannigan before she pops her clogs.

[quote] Patti could play the Veronica Cartwright character in a musical version of The Birds directed and designed by Julie Taymor.

Question: What are the worst jobs in the world?

Answer: Being the stage, set, and costume cleaners for a stage version of "The Birds."

R207 I can just hear Patti screeching out "Girls! Girls! Girls!" In the big production number, doing it just like Meryl as Madeleine Ashton singing Songbird in "Death Becomes Her".

[quote] I also don't think the eight or nine actual gays who are left on here realize that a lot of the hate for people like LuPone comes from the rightwing straights who have invaded, and are perpetually angry with any celebrity that is identified as being liberal and/or Democrat.

So let me get this right: rightwing straigjhts are infiltrating Datalounge in order to hate on Patti LuPone?

You think rightwing straights actually have the slightest idea of who Patti LuPone even IS, much less what her politics are?????

This is like Jussie Smollett thinking that white MAGAts actually watch "Empire."

"Her content will now be seen exclusively on OnlyFags."

There, fixed it for ya.

She looks like Chris Farley with makeup on. Hideous.

Well I don't feel too sorry for the deaf woman who was yelled at. First of all, she knows she wasn't recording the show, so Lupone was the fool. Secondly, if she's deaf, how did she know she was being yelled at?

She’s fabulous. And a very good actress, besides.

[quote]r 127 “You figure it out.” Isn’t that a line from “Mommie Dearest”?

R205, your paranoia is really dull. The right wing doesn't explain everything.

Patti never has been nice to retards.

[quote] First of all, she knows she wasn't recording the show, so Lupone was the fool.

Lupone didn't yell at her. She wasn't even in the show.

I don't blame her for being mad, everyone is a goddamned idiot these days.

[quote]Educate me, please. Doesn’t giving up her equity card also mean giving up benefits such as health insurance and access to senior living supports?

No, since they are funded by the employers the Health & Pension programs are separate businesses which are not "the union". They are co-administered by union members and producers following all the laws of such organizations. She is just being noisy and nasty, as usual.

[quote]“Feud: Patti vs the Hearing Impaired”.

But surely the hearing impaired are a major component of her demographic? (Bless her heart.)

I highly doubt Patty is worried about a pension and health insurance.

) responses are coming from MAGAts, but about 95% are coming from bitchy DLers who are poking fun at La LuPone because of the unbridled worship heaped upon her by NYC DL theater queens.

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I remember seeing her answer fan questions once in a video. She was smug and cunty the whole time, even to her own fans.

One guy wrote in and asked her advice on how she gets through a tough audition.

Her response: A tight smile, and the words "I don't have to audition anymore!"

Dear PattI:

Just a note to let you know that outside of the Broadway community and a small cadre of Hollywood types, no one knows who the fuck you are. More importantly, nobody fucking cares.

R226 = Andrew Lloyd Webber

Interesting how few people have bothered to read the information or learn the facts before posting their opinions here. Ms. LuPone resigned from Equity months ago -before this recent incident happened. There is no connection between the two things, other than her comment saying, "Hey -leave me out of it." Her reasons for quitting had to do with changes to rules regarding dues/fees. She said that she didn't see herself having another role on Broadway at her age, so why should she continue to pay, and at a higher rate than before?

I am not her biggest fan, but she deserves the respect she has earned from her 50-year career on Broadway, and the iconic roles she created or played. She has strong opinions and is not afraid to state them. That makes her more of a Datalounger than anything else.

Nobody knows the trouble I've seen......

Patti tweeted yesterday “Gave up my Equity card” in a post that started with “Quite a week on Broadway” R228.

Perhaps you need to wag your finger at her.

R116 But, it later came out that she had turned in her card at the end of her run in Company. I think it was the mask thing.

R228, when Equity members are not working, they pay the basic dues of $176 a year. The higher rate comes from salary deductions which she would no longer have.

Why is she such a cunt? Be happy for once Patti.

[Quote] Her response: A tight smile, and the words "I don't have to audition anymore!"

And then she auditioned for Woody Allen's stage version of Bullets Over Broadway.

[quote] I am not her biggest fan, but she deserves the respect she has earned from her 50-year career on Broadway, and the iconic roles she created or played.

That does not exempt her from mockery.

There are far more famous and accomplished people on DL who get mocked constantly; just because you're a queeny fan of hers does not mean anyone is going to exempt her when she acts like an ass.

[quote] she deserves the respect she has earned from her 50-year career on Broadway,

^^^ I love Peter Allen.

I'm no lady!

Neither am I.

Peter Allen wrote that song after someone was talking during a Julie Wilson cabaret performance and annoyed him. But then later he said it was really written with Judy Garland in mind.

Joan Allen asked to have it sung at her funeral by Hugh Jackman, whom she had heard sing it in "The Boy from Oz." (He complied.)

[r240] Joan Allen died?

Somebody better tell her.

Sorry--I meant Joan Rivers.

I doubt it was inspired by Garland. Even a rowdy gay bar would give Judy their rapt attention.

Judy didn't just sing at gay venues. Straights came to hear her concerts too.

No one who came to see Judy at a real venue would have to be told to listen. Garland also did some appearances at gay bars when she was particularly on her ass.

I once went to a performance of a show with Katharine Hepburn. Someone was taking a picture and she stopped the show and lectured them. She was right, but I thought it was weird, like, to just go out of character like that.

[quote] No one who came to see Judy at a real venue would have to be told to listen.

Dataloungers always think because THEY revere someone and some of their friends do, that everyone else does (or did).

When her health was failing and she was giving bad shows at the end of her life at nightclubs, audiences would become restless (and Allen saw some of that).

She was still adored by many, but she had to play smaller venues as she got older, and some people went to see her who did not keep shrines to her in their apartments.

Read the biographies of her.

This cuntry needs Miss Patti for president!!!

William Goldman reported that two straight guys who had brought their wives to see Judy at her 1967 concert at the Palace were talking in the lobby and he overheard:

Guy 1: I don't know - is it theatre? Guy 2: It has to be. Guy 1: Why? Guy 2; It sure as hell ain't singing.

Who's Joan Allen?

Peter Allen's mother.

Say goodnight, Joanie.

You mean you don't know MULTIPLE Oscar nominee Joan Allen?

I think Patti looks great in OP's pic. She looks better now than she did 10 years ago.

Joan Davis, America's Queen of Comedy, requested Patti perform at her funeral.

Cunt respects cunt.

I don't even want to imagine what yours looks like, r156.

"Joan Davis, America's Queen of Comedy"

More like Joan Davis, America's Queen of Cuntery.

What about Steve Allen?

I unapologetically adore Patti and I always will.

*

Reactors are not fans of Patti

"Dimmy up widda heat windja nod ebba nad ebba doomy!"

Mahagonny

With her Stubby Kaye thigh...

It's a blowsy role, r265.

She’s busy BEING ALIVE

[quote]Couldn't she have just said she's retiring from Broadway? Was the dramatic announcement of giving up her Equity card really necessary?

Only for a narcissist who has to make EVERYTHING about HER.

[quote]She could return in the future which makes it rather awkward to issue a statement later saying, "Whoops, changed my mind."

Well, she made a huge pronouncement after "War Paint" that she would never do another Broadway musical, and we know what happened there. Again, it's ALL about calling attention to herself.

So what R268? Why do you have a problem with that?

You can always ignore her, and this thread.

This is a site for gossip and pointless bitchery, r269. Where have you wandered in from?

Now is the time for Patti to cover "Take This Job and Shove It."

No shit Sherlock. I have no patience for idiots like you, R270.

No, what you have no patience for is words said against your fave. Run along, fangurl.

[quote]So what [R268]? Why do you have a problem with that? You can always ignore her, and this thread.

Umm, yes, I COULD ignore her. Or I could comment on her very newsworthy behavior and comments, as SO MANY other people are doing, either negatively or positively. Shut up if you don't have anything to contribute other than telling people not to contribute.

The horrific screams behind my house from the poor wild life victims of coyotes and fish cats are less disturbing than this piece of shit, Patti.

I worship the ground she walks on. Haters, kiss my ass.

It's funny to see from the clips here how attractive she was when she was younger. (Notice I did not say "pretty" nor "beautiful," but "attractive")

But she had the kind of looks that don't age well--they depend upon vitality.

Attractive? It's not realistic...

At the risk of losing my Gay Card, I knew who she was, but never heard her...uh...sing. Having listened to the clip at R197, does she frequently take artistic license with pitch?

I actually had that After Dark issue.

Patti has played the Segerstrom Center in OC twice. First time was the cabaret theater, with her and a pianist- she took requests.

Second, was the concert hall, with the philharmonic. I was in the front row, and we locked eyes a few times. It was thrilling.

I will MARY! myself.

HOW DARE YOU! HOW VERY DARE ALL OF YOU! I'll have you know, I've been SHITTING IN WIGS since before Lea Michelle was even a concept! Fun Fact: Bill Smitrovich wore a wig for the first table read of Life Goes On, but never again, it's tough to get raisin skins and caraway seeds out of synthetic hair....

Is Bernadette Peters any less of a diva? Maybe she's just quieter?

[quote]Is Bernadette Peters any less of a diva? Maybe she's just quieter?

She certainly dos not have a rep as a diva. Quite the opposite, in fact.

does not

Why does it seem like the more success she finds the more bitter she becomes? It's bizarre.

[quote]With her Stubby Kaye thigh...

Patti LuPone IS Nicely-Nicely Johnson!

[quote]Why does it seem like the more success she finds the more bitter she becomes? It's bizarre.

I've wondered the same thing. Poor Patti must have some deep-rooted insecurity, paranoia, or other neurosis. She could be enjoying the twilight of her career or resting on her laurels and basking in the adoration of her fans, instead she continues to behave like a bitch and create unnecessary drama with some sort of new outburst every few years.

Team Patti

I didn't realize she was friends with Andy Cohen. JFC, is that queen friends with everyone I like?

You don't know her to like her.

Oh, R290 likes Lupone, Ripa, Cooper, Mayer, Lucci and SJP? Rarified air, gurl.

Rarified enough. And you're forgetting Hickey.

She’ll be back.

[quote]instead she continues to behave like a bitch and create unnecessary drama with some sort of new outburst every few years.

Every few YEARS?

Ha! You got me, R295. I guess Patti has sometimes acted out more frequently than that :-)

I think she's bitter because it took her so long to win a Second Tony. She's said as much when she received it. For a legend it took her a while to really get a second "big" role on Broadway after Evita.

Nancy is a big role.

So is Reno Sweeney.

“Broadway has also changed considerably,” LuPone said. “I think we’ve spent — not we, but whoever’s in charge of, whatever — has actively dumbed down the audience. And so the attention span of the majority of the audience, I think, is much less than it was in the past, and I don’t think plays are going to have long lives on Broadway — I feel as though it’s turning into Disneyland, a circus and Las Vegas.”

“There’s still very intelligent audiences that support the theater, but the ticket price is outrageous,” LuPone continued. “There’s so many obstacles that prevent theater from being the tool it should be in society, which is an education.”

I love her. Ever since I saw her in “Evita”. Broadway legend who always delivers. Three time Tony winner. Any serious actor dreams just to be nominated. I hope she finds peace.

R294 is right…. She’ll be back. Lol

She was known for racing through EVITA. I guess the Les Mouches audience mattered more to her.

I've already done Nancy, bitches.

[quote]Nancy is a big role.

That she got to do for a few days.

As long as...

Thank you for posting that R300. Here’s the clip if anyone is interested.

I had to watch it twice as I was distracted by some preening eye candy in the background the first go around.

Just let this nasty old bitch fade into the background and die.... with more than a million suspects of who could have off'd her.

Patti keeps you awake at night, doesn't she, r307?

Patti and I had such fun - and more than a few drinks - putting together her look as seen in R264. Oh, how we laughed!

r308 Yes, her horrid, hammy, over the top exaggerated performance in Company was a thing of nightmares

[quote]I think she's bitter because it took her so long to win a Second Tony.

Loser.

Take some melatonin, r310.

r312 Ms LuPone, go join Yolanda.

Be sure to watch me in AHS:NYC starting tonight, dolls.

Hollywood royalty! Parted friends! Everyone already knows! Box office poison!

Patti is a love or hate kind of singer and artist and personality. I LOVE her.

Leave her alone because she doesn't give a rusty fuck about any of our opinions. When you are THAT gifted - you carry the knowledge and burden of it with you - every day of your life. Patti has nurtured and used her gifts exceedingly well.

She will never be forgotten. Her voice is SPECTACULAR.

If she don't give a rusty fuck, then why are you whining about leaving her alone, Florence?

[Quote] When you are THAT gifted - you carry the knowledge and burden of it with you - every day of your life.

That sounds like some bullshit Stritch would say.

[quote]I think she's bitter because it took her so long to win a Second Tony. She's said as much when she received it. For a legend it took her a while to really get a second "big" role on Broadway after Evita.

She was absent from Broadway from 1987 through 1995, I believe because she was raising her son. She won her first Tony for EVITA in 1980 and her second for GYPSY in 2008. For what shows could she have expected to win Tonys for in the interim? I would say the only serious possibility was SWEENEY TODD.

Anything Goes?

Why didn't she win an Emmy for Life Goes On? Hmmmm?

Patti, Bernadette and Betty are all pretty much retired from the Broadway stage now. It seems just like yesterday that all 3 were the toast of the town, but time waits for no one. All the stars of stage and screen that we grew up with are dropping like flies.

[quote]"Broadway has also changed considerably,” LuPone said. “I think we’ve spent — not we, but whoever’s in charge of, whatever — has actively dumbed down the audience. And so the attention span of the majority of the audience, I think, is much less than it was in the past, and I don’t think plays are going to have long lives on Broadway — I feel as though it’s turning into Disneyland, a circus and Las Vegas. There’s still very intelligent audiences that support the theater, but the ticket price is outrageous,” LuPone continued. “There’s so many obstacles that prevent theater from being the tool it should be in society, which is an education.”

I also agree with every word she said above. She has often made very intelligent comments like these. BUT she also has an extremely unfortunate and frequent tendency to believe like a nasty, angry, self-centered horror show whenever she's not completely happy and is feeling somewhat insecure.

INSECURE

Scott has a great idea. This would appeal to Patti. Do it!

Patti Lupone is not insecure. A moron using CAPS to take a swipe at her, probably is.

Oh, please. Betty Lynn was retired by Broadway producers... The best gig she could get was the National Tour of Hello, Dolly!

Patti to me is a real piece of work, and she makes me roll my eyes, but even so I love her because she knows exactly who and what she is. She knows she's a pain in the ass and a diva, and she's okay with that. She's enormously talented on stage (although she's like Ethel Merman or Carol Channing and usually too much for the screen), and she's funny, and she genuinely laughs at herself like Merman and Channing did. I'm glad I've never had to work with her, but I find her quite lovable at a distance.

As someone said above, she's a take-her-or-leave-her kind of star. Dataloungers who love difficult divas for some reason always think they can [bold]harangue[/bold] others into liking their divas (as they are doing above), but it's no good: if her personality turns you off, it turns you off.

Nonsense. Patti is a narcissist. She only pretends to stand for things.

She was great in Penny Dreadful.

[Quote] She knows she's a pain in the ass and a diva, and she's okay with that.

As opposed to the pains in the ass who can't sleep at night because of it? What a ridiculous compliment.

She doesn’t want to pay the dues, doesn’t want to reapply, is built for 8 performances a week but doesn’t want to do it anymore, and is over it. If she goes back to Broadway, she’ll do it as a guest. Equity “doesn’t know her.” Damn, Patti - calm down.

The form has also changed, r322. No Jerry Herman, Steve Sondheim or Andrew Lloyd Webber to write them shows. The Broadway highlights of those three women were thanks to those three men. Plus Patti also got the benefit of Porter.

And Suzanne Somers got the benefit of Frank Loesser.

I don't know her!

I AM "big"!

It's the actors' unions that got small....

We're left to wonder, r333...*did* he take it back?

Lupone doesn't fill the seats, anymore. She needs to accept her fate.... and move to Boca!!!! (I hear Dinner Theater is all the rage down there!)

The Mr. Burt Reynolds Jupiter Dinner Theater

presents

MISS PATTI LuPONE

in

"PEG o' MY HEART"

She better not think about reviving EVITA there.

I was never a Patti fan. Disliked her enough no to go see her. Just listening to her recordings and appearances on TV were enough.

I was taken to see War Paint for my birthday and she and Ebersole (who I already loved)were great and I think Lupone gave a wonderful performance. Was surprised at how good she was. Did go to the original production of Evita but it was a matinee so I saw a Teri something.

Any update on the Life Goes On reboot moving forward? If Patti doesn't want to return to that, I'm ready to take over the role and belt out a new version of the theme song.

Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, Ob-La-Shim-Shooby-Doo-Doo

Teri Schiavo, R340

Teri Schiavo would still be performing matinees if it weren't for her cheating husband!!! Fuck your socialist liberal elite politics Florida!!

Teri wasn't brain dead - just an understudy.

One generally doesn't "resign" from Equity (or SAG/AFTRA). Members planning not to be working under any union contracts for a while would generally ask to take "voluntary withdrawal," which can last indefinitely. During this time, a member would not have to pay dues. If, at some point, a member decided to become active again, he or she would just have to pay their current dues to work under an Equity contract again.

Of course, because our Patti loves to create drama offstage as well as on, she may have very well made some grand gesture and quit outright.

Duh, read her statement R344.

When is she ever happy? Everytime she makes news, she’s bitching about sometime. Lighten up you cunt.

[quote]Everytime she makes news, she’s bitching about sometime.

Spreading sweetness and light doesn't tend to get any news coverage.

I ran into Patti once, in the Radio City Music Hall elevator during the Grammies. It was 1981 and Evita won for best Grammy of a Musical. In the elevator, she had changed into a white dress to sing 'Argentina'. She was the only person in the the elevator and I gasped when I walked in. She looked at me and I looked at her and said simply, 'You look lovely tonight'. She relaxed a bit and said 'Thank you' and smiled. That was all, but it was a moment.

And ever since then, she's been a terror! Thanks R348!

r348 I'm surprised she didn't scream at you with something like "So you think I look like a fucking DOG the rest of the time, asshole?"

^^^ Well, it was 40 years ago. She has grizzled with age.

Patti can be a lovely woman. She just dislikes stupidity. Unfortunately, whatever SHE doesn't believe... is considered stupidity.

I wonder if she got a little work done, because she's looking damn good lately. R305 her voice in that clip always takes my breath away. Her tone and vocal power continues to be impressive, but in her prime there was nothing like the fullness and resonance of her voice.

^^^^ Looks like she lost some weight, as well. When she is fat, she looks like a peahen.

[quote] It seems just like yesterday that all 3 were the toast of the town,

It's not like they haven't had work since, but the peak of fame for each of them came between 30 and 40+ years ago, so yes, none of these women can stay the lead or the ingenue forever.......

[quote]Patti Lupone is not insecure. A moron using CAPS to take a swipe at her, probably is.

People who have tremendously outsize egos and who frequently indulge in diva behavior are often said to be insecure at heart. Just read Patti's bio, specifically the part about Evita, for example, and tell me she's not insecure.

Sorry, I meant Patti's autobio, or memoir if you prefer.

R356 I think Andrew Webber did a number on her ego by choosing Glenn over her for the US 'Sunset Boulevard' cast. She still seems bitter about that, although she did say she got a swimming pool from the settlement.

[quote]Patti to me is a real piece of work, and she makes me roll my eyes, but even so I love her because she knows exactly who and what she is. She knows she's a pain in the ass and a diva, and she's okay with that. She's enormously talented on stage (although she's like Ethel Merman or Carol Channing and usually too much for the screen), and she's funny, and she genuinely laughs at herself like Merman and Channing did.

I agree with some of that, but not the part about Patti being able to laugh at herself. In fact, it seems to me that she has shown zero sense of humor about herself. Remember how she squashed the project when Leslie Kritzer did a club act as "Patti LuPone at Les Mouches" and then wanted to record it? Also, I believe Patti was one of the very few stars who were openly not amused when they were parodied in "Forbidden Broadway."

[quote]Ethyl Merman

Oh, dear.

[quote]I think Andrew Webber did a number on her ego by choosing Glenn over her for the US 'Sunset Boulevard' cast. She still seems bitter about that, although she did say she got a swimming pool from the settlement.

I think you've got something there. I would imagine that tremendous public humiliation had a very negative affect on her personality. Offhand, I can't think of any examples of her being publicly bitchy before that -- though there were some non-public incidents, like when both she and Madonna were around at Lincoln Center in 1988 (Patti was doing ANYTHING GOES, Madonna was rehearsing SPEED-THE-PLOW), and Patti reportedly posted a note on the call board saying that there was only room for one Italian-American diva backstage at Lincoln Center. MAYBE she was trying to be funny, or not....

^^^ Madonna is ten years younger than Patti and Patti looks so much better.

In her book, she mentions how Harold Prince bullied her in 'Evita' and made her cry, a lot. Did Harold direct her in anything else? Did he make Patti grumpy, as well?

R363, that may be an example of her insecurity and paranoia. Hal Prince did not have a reputation for bullying.

I know most people on DL, admire and hold this Woman in high esteem. She looms like George Washington in drag though. She's hideous looking and I know she's a diva, but talented. She sho is ugly though. My God.

Diva^^ before someone wishes me dead.

The aging process sure is interesting! She was a knockout beauty when young, could have been a movie star. Loved the part in her memoir when she said she didn't see her beauty until she visited Italy for the first time. Frumpy during Life Goes On, and then really glamorous and svelte throughout most of the 90s. She filled out a bit in the 00s and that shoulder-length bale of hay hair didn't do her any favors, but she still looked good in some of her character roles (thought the curly bob she wore during Gypsy favored her) but around War Paint she really got beautiful again, love the short hair, bangs out of her face, her skin looks great, she glows. And she still looks like herself.

Of course she's insecure, there's no underestimating what a number the Sunset Boulevard fiasco did to her ego. That was a public humiliation, coupled with her dissatisfaction during Life Goes On and several other professional problems until a "comeback" in Gypsy, that was over a decade without a major success. It changes a person. Contrasted with the major successes of her early career and innate confidence in her gift, you're left with someone who feels they're liable to be taken advantage of, someone who feels they constantly have to prove themselves worthy. It's fun to build up our most talented stars as divas, society needs its idols, but we can't forget that at the end of the day these are human beings. It should make us understand her point of view, feel sympathy, not dismiss her as a raging cunt. Her bedside manner may be brash, but she is rarely wrong. And let's not forget the recent loss of her brother which I'm sure she's still reeling from.

[quote] Of course she's insecure, there's no underestimating what a number the Sunset Boulevard fiasco did to her ego. That was a public humiliation, coupled with her dissatisfaction during Life Goes On and several other professional problems until a "comeback" in Gypsy, that was over a decade without a major success. It changes a person.

She has really suffered!

Well said, r368.

Shit, well said, r367! Darfur, just remind yourself that you're fictional.

I thought she was the only one to really disparage Prince. But there is a youtube video interview with George Chakiris who unlike Patti does not have a reputation for complaining and is pretty pleasant about everyone. Except in this interview. He did Bobby in the national tour of Company and said something to the effect of working with Prince was not a happy experience.

R367, I think, at this age and this level of stardom, she can actually tell the truth without any repercussions to her career.

So many people in the biz agree with her wholeheartedly but are afraid to say anything. Show biz chews up actors and she's just pointing it out.

She was never a knockout beauty. What the fuck.

Ha, meanwhile, I'll keep playing in Community Theatre in Vermont...

while this cunt sits around her apartment and watches her skin sag

Ba Pa Bomp Bomp Pa

Linda Lavin has had a better theatre career than Patti LuPone.

R373 Not the best photo, but even there I find her a lush, full-lipped Mediterranean beauty, yes.

Nobody said she was a knockout beauty, r373. She was quite pretty in her youth...Kevin Kline certainly thought so.

r367 said she was a knockout beauty. Do keep kup.

**up

You don't have to be pretty to be fuckable.

[quote]So many people in the biz agree with her wholeheartedly but are afraid to say anything. Show biz chews up actors and she's just pointing it out.

Judging from social media, the response of the general population to what LuPone has said and done is very divided. That's no surprise, as nowadays you can find twisted people who will agree with even the most outrageous behavior. But among entertainment industry professionals, the reaction to her antics seems to be mostly very negative.

Also, to repeat: While anyone with functioning brain cells would agree that there are huge problems with Equity, those problems don't seem to have much or anything to do with Patti LuPone, and her grievances certainly have absolutely nothing to do with recent events regarding Lillias White and that Porkalob person, despite her unfortunately successful attempt to hitch her publicity wagon to at least one of those events.

I saw her singing two songs “Fever” and “I’m Calling You” on AHS NYC (inside a gay bathhouse) last night. Good vocal versions. She looked stoic.

She has a distinctive look. While not a beauty, she can look great. I adore her, so I'm biased. I've had a little interaction and she's always been friendly enough. I'm not married to her, or working with her so if she's a cunt it doesn't matter to me.

On stage, she's a goddess.

Not really. She's so short.

R384 = Addison DeWitt

Who cares how tall Patti is? That's why God made high heels.

Someone said that onstage she's a goddess. It's not an accurate characterization of her.

Bullshit.

It's true the Andrew Lloyd Webber rather screwed her over and embarrassed her by taking away the opportunity for her contracted and agreed upon NY premiere of "Sunset Blvd", and she was compensated about $1 million, which she has said she put into her swimming pool. BUT, Andrew Lloyd Webber also wrote the show "Evita" which NY production made her a star. Had she not gotten that role and ultimately succeeded in it (with a very capable understudy/matinee person ready to assume the role at any time back in the day), all of her career afterwards might not have been. Everyone is replaceable -- she's been aware of that from the get-go.

ALW is a hack. Patti would have always found a way. Women like her do.

"Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda", the name of one her one woman shows.

Found a way to what, though? "Life Goes On"? Harrison Ford's sister in "Witness"?

[quote]all of her career afterwards might not have been

You're dealing in *mights*, r389. It's just as possible it might *have*.

Nonsense. A big break is not to be disregarded.

What if Barbra hadn't done Funny Girl?

Barbra might have been Eydie Gorme's understudy in "Golden Rainbow" then, depending on how her recording career progressed.

Streisand had a recording career. Patti can't relate.

[quote]Streisand had a recording career.

But would she have a movie career and two Oscars, r396?

BY Patti.. you were such a talented bitch..

Just reading an article on best Broadway divas. Patti is #2 behind Ethel.

[Quote] But would she have a movie career and two Oscars, [R396]?

If she hadn't got Funny Girl...? Well, look at her hit rate (across media) and compare it with Patti's...

Does everything have to be a competition?

Not, but comparison and contrast can provide insight.

That isn't the point, r400. You're comparing two different careers with "What if they hadn't got that one big career-making Broadway role?". Bottom line is...who knows?

Bottom line is... speculation is speculation. I guess this particular speculation irks you... Try to dial back the fangurl, you'll do better around here if you do.

I always wondered what would have happened to Streisand's career and the film of Funny Girl if Streisand hadn't caved into Stark's demand that if she didn't sign the multi film contract with him there was a chance she wouldn't have gotten that film. Who else would he have cast? Audiences wanted to hear who singing People? Edie Gorme? And if Babs didn't have that amazing intro to a worldwide audience what would her career have been like?

Babs already made waves as a recording star. At worst, she would have got stuck in Disney fare and sitcomes, like Sandy Duncan.

*sitcoms

Well, if Barbara Cook could play Fanny Brice, why not a real Jewish soprano?

I went to a dress rehearsal for 'Whistle Down the Wind' in London. It was suppose to be the first preview, but they cancelled that. However, anyone having tix could sit in the run thru. The big production table was in the center of the auditorium and Andrew Lloyd Webber was sitting there holding court with all the production people.

It was pretty calm during intermission and said went up to him and said, "Sir Andrew, I'm sure many people ask you, but may I have your autograph?" He seemed a bit flustered and said, "Oh, no, people rarely ask me for my autograph, unless it's a bill." We just spoke a moment till someone else came by, but he seemed like he appreciated someone just saying 'Hi'.

Not likely, but what if Mama Cass had gotten I Can Get If For You Wholesale?

She was on the Tonight Show with her group before the Mamas and Papas.

[quote] I guess this particular speculation irks you... Try to dial back the fangurl, you'll do better around here if you do.

No, r404, doesn't irk me at all. Just pointing out that speculation is only that. How does that make me a "fangurl"? Also, I do just fine around here, thank you very much.

Patti is a goddess on stage...

Kali

I have just recieved, through the mail, her autobiography, 'Patti LuPone: A Memoir'. Jealous, bitches?

[quote]I have just recieved . . .

"I before E except after C . . . "

R414 ..you are so jealous.

Patti looks as though she's had sufficient servings of extra cheese pizzas, apple pie, cheesecake, and bags of Hershey's Kisses.

To quote the great Elaine Stritch, "Supposition is a waste of time."

If Patti hadn't gotten Evita, her career might have been even bigger.

There's no logic to that statement.

R418, would you care to explain that comment?

Uh, R418, she won the Tony for Evita, and two more during her career. She’s done quite well. You make no sense.

I remember the period of her career where she embarrassed herself chasing hockey player Ron Duguay all over town, grabbing his ass as often as she could get away with.

Ron and the husband of Patti have similar faces.

But their asses were quite different.

I had Ron first.

I have Ron now.

[Quote] [R418], would you care to explain that comment?

It is very possible that if she didn’t get Evita, LuPone might have taken a hit TV show or even a hit movie and her career gone to even greater heights.

All the discussion in here about her career having been diminished if she didn’t get Evita. It could have gone the other way too

That makes little sense. She didn't do EVITA for a crazy amount of time. The roles didn't come rolling in WITH a launchpad like EVITA. And with her looks, the movies always saw her as a supporting player.

[quote] Linda Lavin has had a better theatre career than Patti LuPone.

The general public has no idea who Linda Latin is. Case closed.

Linda Lavin had her own TV show for a decade. And she has continued to get regular roles on TV throughout the years. Patti, in her own words, has always been a hard sell to TV executives.

Lavin also had a really good arc on "Barney Miller" playing opposite DL dreamboat Max Gail years ago. That helped her getting "Alice" tv show as well.

R410 I thought about that. I can absolutely hear her sing the Miss Marmelstein song.

I cried when I didn't get the role of Tony's sister on The Sopranos.

Without having Evita to drag her down, Patti could have been a bigger singer than Madonna in the 80s

[quote] It is very possible that if she didn’t get Evita, LuPone might have taken a hit TV show or even a hit movie and her career gone to even greater heights.

That would never have happened in a billion years. Although I will agree when she was younger she was never attractive at a distance, but never close up. She never would have made it on TV or in the movies any better than she did. She is abrasive and loud in manner--it worked well for her playing a momma-bear type on "Life Goes On," but it would have been too jarring in roles for young women.

Linda Lavin has also been a regular cast member of at least three TV series during the past 10-15 years: Sean Saves the World, Apt. 9JKL, and B Positive.

Love Cycle

Casting directors are known for bringing in Broadway stars for auditions for movie/TV roles. Patti must have had hundreds of chances and blew most of them given her distinctive abrasive looks and personality.

It wasn't an issue at a distance on stage, but clearly, audiences didn't want to see and hear her on a big screen or in their living rooms on TV

Helen Mirren's husband tore Patti a new one on a recent movie. Patti fucked up continuity by removing/switching some item between takes.

Patti LuPone is a bigger LEGEND than any television star. What the fuck? She's the most famous voice and most gifted performer on the musical STAGE, ever. She knows it. We all know it.

She was nowhere near as abrasive or ugly as Striezand or Linda Lavin or Merman. Fuck right off. Patti was a sexy smart and supernaturally gifted woman. Progressive as fuck. She doesn't suck the public's dick. She gives them all she's got and allows them to make up their own mind. She worked her ass off to be great. And she gets fucking PISSED when respect is not paid. She's not charging by the note - she's respectful or her job and her GREAT gift.

I'm not insane. There are more beautiful voices - but none more impressive than Patti LuPone's.

Think of how many Broadway musical stars actually did make it even bigger than Patti did on TV:

Dick van Dyke

Florence Henderson

Jean Stapleton

Beatrice Arthur

Linda Lavin

Bonnie Franklin

Jason Alexander

Megan Mullally

Jerry Orbach

Jesse L. Martin

Sarah Jessica Parker

Mandy Patinkin

For all of them to have made it and for Patti LuPone not to have made it at there levels must have been embarrassing for her.

To be thought of not as talented and less watchable than even Bonnie Franklin... wow...

R440, kiss Flo's grits! 🖕

Patti Lupone is a bigger legend than Lucille Ball!?

Suzanne Somers is a bigger legend than Lucy Balls.

She gives them all she's got? She sat in her dressing room for most of Les Miserables, even though she was supposed to fill out the cast in scenes where Fantine did not appear/had died. I guess she didn't truly learn the meaning of ensemble at Juilliard.

How was she respectful of her job when she shortchanged audiences by racing through EVITA, especially on nights where she was more interested in her after hours cabaret gig.

Patti = cuntiest cunt whoever cunted. And she’s not even that good.

^ Ancient white FAG with No EARS or HOLES left. ^

R447 loves Karen Carpenter - so he only knows anemic voices. He must be older than Patti too!! R447 calls every female celebrity he doesn't like a C*NT? What kind of old white man acts like that anymore? A RACIST & MISOGYNIST MAGA shut in. Karen Carpenter would for sure be a Trump supporter. They both did their best work in a toilet bowl.

[Quote] ^ Ancient white FAG with No EARS or HOLES left. ^

You need to give it up AWF Troll. We know you're a White Canadian.

You got no ears or holes left OLD RACIST FAG. You know nothing about singing or vocal production.

Go back to Karen Carpenter and Donna AIDS Summers. To the 1970s when you were in your thirties.

The way you bring racism in a thread about Patty Lapone... so transparent. You're a White Canadian man who thinks you're being amusing.

Is the Ancient White Fags Troll the same troll as Matt Anscher?

R450 has posted over 70 times on this thread. From one of his accounts. All hateful and insane about Patti Lupone? Talking about old TV stars and imaginary gossip. He's a sick man who harrasses people hear. He posts from other accounts too. F&F.

Haha. Thanks R454. We smell that old PIG (R450) all over this site, day and nite.

Slaughter it.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

You don't even keep consistent, AWF Troll. Throwing out insults about 1970s stars when Patti LuPone came to prominence in the 1970s...

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You think you're being so clever... You've been exposed as a White Canadian man. The fact that you love Kelly Clarkson so much... it a was a big tell.

^ sad ^

[quote]Patti LuPone is a bigger LEGEND than any television star. What the fuck? She's the most famous voice and most gifted performer on the musical STAGE, ever.

Skipping your meds again?

I have no idea who Linda Latin is either.

'She's the most famous voice and most gifted performer on the musical STAGE, ever.'

You must be talking about Lauren Bacall

She's selling her pone all over town.

You're confused. Linda Latin did that porno about blow jobs.

r460 = Bonnie Franklin

Think of the roles she might have played on TV and on film had she just not been cast in "Evita"!

Diane on "Cheers"... Valene on "Knots Landing"... Beth in "Ordinary People"... Chelsea in "On Golden Pond"!

More like Mac on "Knots Landing".

Barney in "Barney and Friends."

There's a new chica in town and she's feeling bueno!

If you're listing parts she could have played, don't forget all these.

Patti's role as Lightning in Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken has stayed with me since childhood.

R470 - kinda like the meatloaf at Balthazars.

It's weird to me that Broadways stars still exist. They aren't really very famous to the rest of the country or the world, unlike some Broadway stars of the past, who used to perform (act & sing) in movies or TV variety shows. Or when there were national magazines like Life, that promoted Broadway shows. This forum is about the only place I still see them discussed regularly.

But on the other hand, R472, we're told that a huge percentage of the Broadway audience nowadays is made up of tourists from around the country and around the world, which was not true back in the day. So, back then, Broadway stars became well known to people outside of New York primarily through TV variety shows, etc., and now it happens mostly through people coming to NYC to see them perform. Plus, of course, now we have YouTube and podcasts and music downloads etc. etc. etc., and of course, Broadway actors still do appear on TV on late-night talk shows, etc.

Merman(variety shows and Mad World) and Martin(touring and Peter Pan) were nationally famous. Is Patti?

Patti LuPone is famous nationally. What a dumb question. Patti and Bernadette both did many talk shows, concert appearances, film and TV shows. Bernadette can no longer sing and has not been a popular guest because she lacks everything else to be a good guest. But she was once a big thing.

Bernadette was the lovely young (looking) Broadway singer of choice for many TV appearances and she was quite special in most of them. Vulnerable etc.

Patti comes, leaves and sings as herself. She's a powerhouse talent and a great personality. All over from Merv Griffin to Joan Rivers to Carson, Fallon and Colbert. Just a few weeks ago. And a few months before that. She brought the house down.

As an actress, Patti is truly underrated. That's part of what makes her the greatest Broadway performer of all time. Patti is a very good actress AND not only when singing. Though she is magnificent then. Have a Little Priest is not angelica lansburies weak number at all. It belongs to Patti LuPone. She is precise, deadly and hilarious. She is the most powerful and heartbreaking Fantine. And Patti now owns ALL the GYPSY songs. NO one has performed them better. Whoever Ethyl Merman was - she couldn't really sing. And she for sure couldn't convey emotion. She's forgotten - except on DL and wikipedia. She's not a living experience and all existing footage of her singing makes a musician ask why? Yeah, she was LOUD. Patti is much more than loud.

Patti is on AHS this season. She's been in a number of Ryan Murphy productions. Since when does the public not know her? She's a star. A much bigger star than Audra McDonald or Bernadette or Liza or Barbra Cook. WTF.

Oh please, if you said "Patti Lupone" the majority of the pubic would have no idea who she is

R475. how old were you when you had the lobotomy?

Can't stand Patti as a singer. Better as an actress.

Uh R475 you are fucking insane.

It looks like Muriel just did, r479.

I still haven't figured it out.

[quote]She's a star. A much bigger star than Audra McDonald or Bernadette or Liza or Barbra Cook. WTF.

Uh-huh. Liza only wishes that she had had the kind of career that Patti has had. She's especially envious of Patti's Oscar as best actress. Oh, wait . . .

Well I sure as hell am not Muriel but you ARE fucking insane.

Comparisons are fine, but some of you have turned this thread into an ugly bitch fest. We should be thankful we’ve seen the talents of Peters, Minnelli, Lansbury, McDonald LuPone, Merman, and dozens more. We should be celebrating their existence; not ripping them to shreds. Please. They’re all fucking great performers in their own gifted way! Now Stop IT, you ungrateful and nasty bitches.

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You rang?

Patti did a concert of torch songs at the Vivian Beaumont about twelve years ago, and although in fine voice was terribly boring.

She has an far from interesting presence on stage without a script, and she literally sang about thirty songs! People were staring at their watches and the applause became quite muted as the endless evening dragged on. She seemingly sang every song she knew the words to short of "I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts" and "Happy Birthday"!

R486 Did you see her Evita, Fanny/ Would love to know how her diction was. Am reading her memoir at the moment, and even she mentions the comments on her diction...

You rang?

r487, I missed Patti. I saw her main replacement Loni Ackerman who was excellent.

I had just gotten here and was mostly seeing whatever I could get into cheaply, or for free. I was still a teenager and the show was a huge hit and tough ticket that first year with Patti.

New Yorkers are so delusional to believe that, outside their insular theater world, no one knows the name Patti LuPone.

R490, I don't think anyone is saying that no one outside of NYC knows Patti's name, I think they're saying she's not a star except in the Broadway sphere. FWIW, Sondheim said the same thing a few years ago. Or did you miss that little comment?

Sondheim not only said it to her face, he said it while they were on a live broadcast.

She gave lousy head.

She's like the only one besides someone with a Mc or a Mac who has a Lu and then a capital letter afterwards, as did her brother. Of course, her name sticks out.

Does it matter whether she's a "star" or not? When she comes to my town, she sells out the 2000 person concert hall. Patti is certainly doing better than most.

It mattered to Sondheim.

News flash, he's dead.

Odd comment to make when Patti is also old.

R494, Excuse me?

[quote]When she comes to my town, she sells out the 2000 person concert hall.

You must live in MARYville, USA!

I called the Actors' Equity Association and they put me on hold.

This is what i heard...

Why hasn’t Patti updated her IMDB profile picture?