"TILL" will win the Best Picture Oscar in 2023

That one is going to be hard to watch but it needed to be made.

Agreed, R1.

His mother made the right decision, though.

"Let them see what they did."

Only in theaters.

The film distributors want people in movie theaters, watching it together.

I like that, but it would get much wider distribution if it were streamed.

Oscar or not, people should see this movie.

Im sure! Oscar voters love a race lecture!

^ One in every crowd....

As long as it wasn't written or directed by Ava then it might have turned out well.

Ugh, I know I wouldn't be able to sit through that.

Isn't the old bitch who accused him of whistling at her still alive or something?

The real-life lynching photos are horrific.

I googled it, and could not believe what those people did to that kid.

I just can't even imagine being filled with so much hate and rage.

Who is the audience for this? Seriously.

Here's the "wolf whistle" lady pictured alongside a photo of Emmett.

The original Karen.

Viola Davis IS Till!!!!

Who is asking for this?

[quote] Isn't the old bitch who accused him of whistling at her still alive or something?

Carolyn Bryant Donham

About

Born: 1934 (age 88 years), Indianola, MS

Children: Lamar Bryant, Roy Bryant Jr.

Spouse: Roy Bryant (m. 1951–1979)

[Quote]it would get much wider distribution if it were streamed.

Be patient.

[quote] As long as it wasn't written or directed by Ava

Chinonye Chukwu born May 19, 1985 is a Nigerian-American film director best known for the drama film Clemency. She is the first black woman to win the U.S. Dramatic Grand Jury Prize at Sundance.

Chukwu was born in Port Harcourt, Nigeria. When she was just over a year old, her family moved to Oklahoma, and moved again to Fairbanks, Alaska when she was six. They visited Nigeria often.

Growing up in Alaska, Chukwu was often the only person of color in her classes, and she struggled to fit in. Throughout her childhood she dealt with depression, which was exacerbated by limited wintertime daylight in Alaska. To cope, she read Maya Angelou and joined the weight-lifting club. Chukwu always wanted to make movies. In her teen years she carried around a journal that she would write down ideas for films and music videos. She often wrote stories about Nigerian-American girls reconnecting with loves or lost siblings.

She received her bachelor's degree in English from DePauw University, where she joined Zeta Phi Beta. She then enrolled in film school at Temple University.

This looks amazing. Had no idea they were releasing a film about what happened to him. It's horrific and a true tragedy. Human beings that could do such a thing to a child should be called out.

This absolutely needed to be made. I'll watch it.

The cinematography makes it look cartoonish.

What style is that?

I hung on to the edge of my seat while watching this movie, unlike Till who fell off the edge and just hung there.

This movie checks off a lot of Oscar "boxes."

Not to mention that it has a female Director/Writer, who also happens to be black.

Didn't they award a minority film last year, or the year before?

The Green Bananas or whatever?

That's enough for now. It would only make them uppity.

Don't you all recognize OPs that are paid shills yet?

it looks awful like a Hallmark movie

I think it's important that the director goes on camera to say two things:

1. There will be no violence against black people on-screen, and

2. It will start and end from a place of joy.

Telling a story from that perspective will be quite unique.

R24 Even though the very center of the story IS violence against black people? If you're wanting a white audience to confront uncomfortable truths, shying away from what the story is actually about just makes it seem like you're making an oscar-bait pretty postcard movie.

Early reviews I read praised lead actress Danielle Deadwyler but were not as positive for the movie itself. That seems to have changed in the last two days. The film seems headed for a Best Pic nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if it wins.

R26 Gotta tick those boxes!

The director doesn't seem to have the skill necessary to tackle such a weighty subject in an effective way

[quote] If you're wanting a white audience to confront uncomfortable truths, shying away from what the story is actually about just makes it seem like you're making an oscar-bait pretty postcard movie.

I think you're wrong.

This Director gets it.

So many other Directors would go the obvious route, and turn a story like this into grief porn.

She doesn't want to rile up the masses, and turn this into a story about hate.

We already know that this is a story that stems from hate.

Ms. Chukwu intends for this story to produce a life lesson and a learning lesson, from tragedy.

It's so easy to get people riled up with anger. And she realizes that violence begets violence.

But when you try to turn a violent story into a story of hope and joy? Well, I think that's quite an accomplishment.

And Director Chukwu goes out of her way to make it clear, that's what this story is about.

I applaud that.

I've been saying Danielle is going to be the one to watch for this years Best Actress race. It's supposedly a powerhouse performance. She stands a very good chance of winning.

The only other nominee that stands a chance is Michelle Yeoh, but the movie seems a little too out there for the Academy to actually give an oscar to.

Whoopi is also moving up for Supporting Actress contenders as well.

[quote] Who is the audience for this? Seriously.

Hmmm, let's see.

Were you ever the target of violence? Or hate? Or injustice? Or bigotry?

Were you ever mistreated by someone?

Your life must be absolutely perfect and trouble free, if you can't relate to the themes of this movie. Even a little bit.

2023's Feel Bad movie of the year!

(Seriously, who's paying $15 to see this non-entertainment?)

None of it ever happened. It was a hoax.

Danielle D. was incredible in Station Eleven.

Chinonye Chukwu talks "Till."

I just like that she's not "preachy."

She's more conversational, which is a good thing.

Danielle Deadwyler interview.

Keep stirring that race pot. The only way to forget about race is to talk about it nonstop. Everybody knows that.

Thanks for the trailer, OP. Though think I will pass on this film. Am aware of this poignant and gruesome part of US History. That, in itself, is enough. Don’t believe it is necessary to continually revisit and poke it.....most notably in an era of challenge: pandemic, economic woes, war in Ukraine, political infighting, US Democracy issues, etc. etc.

BLM was given its due. The 2O21 Oscars were a homage to Black America. For approximately 10% (12?) the continual victimization of those with increased melanin in the US is wearing thin on an already overburdened populace. This is not meant to deny or denigrate past injustices; just a reminder that injustices occur daily to many (aka Ukraine, other ethnicities, the poor, etc.) and the continual rehashing and rehashing.....and rehashing....is enough.....already.

Danielle Deadwyler is fantastic. Oddly, it's not grief porn -it's stirring. It is about a woman who had to stand in her darkest hour and channel her pain over the loss of her son and put it towards pointing the spotlight on hate and racial injustice.

Jalen Hill who plays Emmett Till was good. He brings home just how young Emmett was. This performance shows him as flesh and blood and not just the image of a deformed corpse.

[quote]continual rehashing and rehashing.....and rehashing....is enough.....already.

I have never seen anyone complain about the many films about the Holocaust- just films about injustices done to Black people.

R38 is Cate, pissed that her third oscar chances are dwindling.

Blacks make up 13% of the population they should only be committing 13% of the crimes, instead, they are committing crimes almost three times as many crimes as they should be. Black on white crime is 9:1

This is NOW. Let's hear about that.

[quote] Danielle Deadwyler is fantastic.

Good for her.

[quote] Oddly, it's not grief porn -it's stirring.

Respectfully, R39, grief porn was my interpretation from the trailer. With the heavy exposure of real-time world events*, my cup runneth over. No way would I pay good money to have horrific events reignite grief atm.

[quote] I have never seen anyone complain about the many films about the Holocaust.

Please don’t tune into to the Black Victims Only Ideology, R40. Downfall was the last Holocaust film I saw years ago: and only because it was the German-led look at their own country. I have NO desire to see another film about the Holocaust. Please. Let us not turn this into some kind of victim off: as who gets more attention....Blacks vs Jews vs Asians vs whomever. It’s demeaning to all humans.

*All this whilst there are those who are lying and telling children their parents no longer want them is happening in the present moment.....

Love it when British Racists chime in on American stories.

Go fuck yourself, Tory.

I don't think I can sit through another movie watching Black people being abused like 12 Years a Slave. I know it's the truth but it's just too hard to watch.

[quote] Love it when British Racists chime in on American stories.

Wrong again, R44. American.

(Who voted for Biden, if you must know.)

[quote]I have never seen anyone complain about the many films about the Holocaust

Ricky Gervais made an episode of his show Extras about how Holocaust movies are shameless grabs for Academy Awards.

It starred Kate Winslet, who won an Oscar just a few years later for, yes, a Holocaust movie.

Yes, an American who used "whilst."

Sure Jan.

Well I mean if RICKY GERVAIS SAYS IT!!!!

Unless Hollywood awards this film, racism will continue!

"I get very mad when I see black people on TV!"

[quote] Unless Hollywood awards this film, racism will continue! —Left-wing lunatic

[quote] "I get very mad when I see black people on TV!" —MAGA Chud

Impressive that the last two posts exemplify the polarization/polarisation* within our US.

Hard to present any belief or perspective without being pulled apart by both ends of extremism. And all over a film one prefers not to see!

*For you, R48, who questions nationality based on writing preferences. Given that I was educated in Canadian Universities (since I was born in Michigan), the fact to y’all that I din’t speek like an Americen you associte with sez more abut ewe then me.

[quote]Please. Let us not turn this into some kind of victim off: as who gets more attention....Blacks vs Jews vs Asians vs whomever. It’s demeaning to all humans.

I feel more Holocaust stories should be shared, more slavery/civil rights stories, there should be more films about the atrocities against the Native Americans in the U.S, the Japanese who were put in internment camps - filmmakers should mine those stories as the hatred towards those communities exist. I am all for these stories but, again, when Black stories are told people want to become statisticians and feel that minorities (namely Black people) shouldn't be centered with such frequency.

I first heard about this while watching Eyes on the Prize and I almost went into shock from crying so hard. That picture had haunted me for 35 years. I'm glad they made a movie, but I just can't watch it.

Slavery, civil rights, the Holocaust.

I'm not interested.

I have sufficient.

R40 You know why that is.

[quote] grief porn was my interpretation from the trailer.

It's not that at all, if you listen to the Director.

R40 That...might be part of the problem, to be honest. I don't know that there's an abundance of Holocaust films or projects being made, but the thing about a lot of these films about "the injustices done to Black people" is that they seem geared to stoke tensions between Black people and white people. And there's always this weirdly exploitative bent to these films, like they're meant to be a pitch right up the middle. Just like with this film. Though I know I wouldn't want to sit through and watch the atrocities done to this child, if it was a straight movie about what happened and the aftermath, I'd kind of understand. But no, it's about his mother's struggle to bring them to justice or whatever. I'm almost certain there's going to be a scene with this distraught Black woman pleading with the blithe, uncaring police.

I feel like Hollywood tries to push the "Woke agenda" via POC because they're less susceptible to criticism.

R58, you're needlessly verbose. You know what stokes tensions? Never hearing about actual events like this until you're in your 30s. We need to quit pretending history didn't happen.

[quote] It's not that at all, if you listen to the Director

Thank you for sharing, R57. Appreciate that the director is not going into the heavy violence affiliated with the event and wishes to bookmark the film with “joy”.

During my education, I spent a month working on this event as s special report topic. I am familiar with those involved and the ramifications of the heinous act and Till-Mobley’s actions.

Seeing documentaries, reading newspaper clippings and studying reports of the era and events was a profound experience. But it’s not necessary to now see them re-enacted by actors and shell out $$$$$ on my end.

Perhaps others require further re-enactments of atrocities in film? Personally, documentaries, news reports and social media are enough nowadays to fill the abuse/victimization/grief porn in life.

This is just not attractive any longer.

And Whoopi gets another Oscar

People of coloreds will SWEEP the Oscars!

".......and during the Civil Rights movement, the United States was the laughing stock of the entire world. We all remarked about the great, proud, boastful and free democracy - the beacon of light in the world - AND LOOK HOW IT TREATS ITS OWN CITIZENS!"

This thread full of racist shits getting furious that one of the most important stories in a Americana history is finally getting told in a movie is prize enough for me

I thought Clemency, the director’s last movie, was fantastic.

R59 "Needlessly verbose"? Touch a book or something. Geez.

Danielle Deadwyler is an absolutely incredible actress. There is a teeny tiny movie called The Devil To Pay that I stumbled onto on Amazon Prime and she is absolutely riveting in it. It’s a low budget thriller about a woman who has to negotiate between two warring clans in Appalachia when her husband goes missing with one clan’s $$ and they kidnap her son. It is a great, tight thriller not even 90 mins long.

When I saw that movie she became one of my “I’ll watch her in anything” actresses. Am I dying to see “Till?” No. I’m Black and I’m tired of Black Pain being the only way Blacks can be reflected in serious movies. We get no serious family or adult dramas with Black casts, just Jim Crow/Slave era Black Pain over and over and over again.

But again she’s so incredible I’ll see it just for her.

I think after last year's shit show that Oscar voters aren't going to go out of their way to award this. If it's truly the outstanding film, then yeah--same for the performances, but I think the Academy is going to take a small step back from racial atonement. They're not good for ratings.

I do think, if it's decent, it will get nominations.

Re: Holocaust movies. I've heard plenty of complaints about there being too many Holocaust movies. They're sort of out of fashion.

Another troll thread. Don't feed the troll.

Elvis will sweep the Oscar's, not this obvious Oscar bait.

[quote] Love it when British Racists chime in on American stories.

It’s particularly delicious when you consider who planted African slavery in the 13 colonies, and who provided the primary market for slave picked cotton after American independence.

In fact, the British seriously considered recognizing the confederacy as an independent nation, or even intervening on the side of the confederacy.

[quote] This thread full of racist shits getting furious that one of the most important stories in a Americana history is finally getting told in a movie is prize enough for me.

Be careful throwing about the RACIST moniker, R64. If people choose not to see the film, that in NO WAY makes them RACIST. Rather you come across as self-identifying.

[quote] Am I dying to see “Till?” No. I’m Black and I’m tired of Black Pain being the only way Blacks can be reflected in serious movies. We get no serious family or adult dramas with Black casts, just Jim Crow/Slave era Black Pain over and over and over again.

Troll thread.

Throll tread.

[quote]We get no serious family or adult dramas with Black casts, just Jim Crow/Slave era Black Pain over and over and over again.

King Richard. Passing. Concrete Cowboy. Respect. The Harder They Fall. Da 5 Bloods. One Night in Miami. Miss Juneteenth.

All worthwhile Black dramas, all released in the last two years, along with the excellent Summer of Soul documentary and two films that may trigger you, but should be seen nonetheless: Judas and the Black Messiah and The United States vs. Billie Holiday.

I understand (though I don't share) your objection to "Black Pain" movies, but it's just not true that there aren't other serious alternatives. Still not enough, I'll grant you.

"I just can't even imagine being filled with so much hate and rage."

Those kinds of people are still around and they're now called "MAGAts" or "Deplorables."

I think after last year's shit show that Oscar voters aren't going to go out of their way to award this.

And why not?

If it's a deserving movie.

I don't think there should be quotas in giving Oscars to movies with black casts.

But there's also a problem when Oscars have given out awards to undeserving actors like Will Smith. He never should have gotten an Oscar. Same for Halle Berry. Their performances were not Oscar worthy. And I feel the same for many other white actors, like Gwyneth Paltrow, Reese Witherspoon, and Renee Zellwegger.

This movie, on the other hand, deserves Oscar noms.

And I think it sucks that people are saying "not this year because of last year." That's such a stupid argument.

[quote] This movie, on the other hand, deserves Oscar noms.

Says who?

Love the poster who is afraid stories of anti-black atrocities will stir anti-white hatred.

You think black people need a movie to tell them white people have been shitting on them for centuries?

Fucking idiot.

I don't understand why SOME people here are so threatened by this movie.

What are you afraid of?

Reality R79

A reality that Republicans/MAGAts/Deplorables have been carefully crafting for the past ten years: that white people are the kindest, most gentle, docile, peace loving people on earth who are constantly being victimized by black and brown "savages."

[quote] I don't understand why SOME people here are so threatened by this movie. What are you afraid of?

Not fear, R79. Not threatened.

[quote] Perhaps others require further re-enactments of atrocities in film? Personally, documentaries, news reports and social media are enough nowadays to fill the abuse/victimization/grief porn in life.

[quote] No. I’m Black and I’m tired of Black Pain being the only way Blacks can be reflected in serious movies. We get no serious family or adult dramas with Black casts, just Jim Crow/Slave era Black Pain over and over and over again.

[quote] Slavery, civil rights, the Holocaust. I'm not interested. I have sufficient.

Weary. Same old same old. “Over and over again.”

[quote] Reality

has a great deal occurring in the real moment. Much to focus on rather than wallowing in victim/grief porn from past events that cannot be effected by present actions. Choice, really. What do people wish to spend their time, energy and money on? If someone chooses not to go there, it is their right.

[quote] Much to focus on rather than wallowing in victim/grief porn from past events that cannot be effected by present actions.

You've been told multiple times that this Director has not made this movie about "grief porn" or victimhood.

She says it herself.

The problem is that you keep spouting your false narrative, which is always the case with people who refuse to hear the truth.

Bitch, the only one "playing the victim" here, is YOU.

“Playing the victim”, R83? Of what?

You seem inordinately angry that someone does not wish to see a rehash of a story told....and retold....”over and over”.

Let’s just say the trailer for this film did not leave many feeling good.

There are many present injustices in the moment. Perhaps some wish to focus themselves where they can make a difference....not wailing about things that cannot be undone.

[quote] You seem inordinately angry that someone does not wish to see a rehash of a story told....and retold....”over and over”.

Um... when was this story "retold... over and over?"

I don't recall ever seeing a big-screen movie about Emmett Till.

Liar.

[quote] Um... when was this story "retold... over and over?" I don't recall ever seeing a big-screen movie about Emmett Till. Liar.

Um, I don’t recall Ever Saying that Till has been retold.

[quote] No. I’m Black and I’m tired of Black Pain being the only way Blacks can be reflected in serious movies. We get no serious family or adult dramas with Black casts, just Jim Crow/Slave era [bold] Black Pain over and over and over again.[/bold]

You are obtuse, R85.

Additionally, your name calling is unwarranted for people who simply do not wish to see a movie. You come off as a toddler with a limited IQ and EQ.

I can already tell that heads are going to explode when this movie wins the Best Picture Oscar.

[quote]I can already tell that heads are going to explode when this movie wins the Best Picture Oscar.

No one cares. No one can even remember what film won last year.

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I always love this period of the Oscar season. So many possibilities, and the awards watchers get excited about certain sure-things (Brendan Fraser) but then other stuff comes on late and shakes it all up, like CODA last year.

I'm keeping an eye on BABYLON, also the new Inarritu. The Harvey Weinstein expose about the two female journalists. And I agree TILL might be in the mix. Still lots to come and to surprise. Maybe the James Gray will be good. Anthony Hopkins in supporting!

The movie is just wrong. "Color Purple" with a lynching.

No disrespect towards Mr. Till and his mother and family. They deserved better than another typical rendition.

[quote] I thought Clemency, the director’s last movie, was fantastic.

Totally agree. Clemency was excellent and Alfre Woodard should have been nominated. But the company that released it bungled its Oscar chances (apparently).

I'm glad Chukwu is getting the proper support this time and that her film will get a bigger audience than Clemency did.

[quote] I almost went into shock from crying so hard.

oh brother

Everything Everywhere All At Once is total Academy bait. This one I think a lot of Academy voters flat out just won't see.

[quote] Everything Everywhere All At Once is total Academy bait.

EEAAO was a wild ride. Loved it! Would be surprised if it won an Oscar, but think it is fantastic and would love it!

As R90 says, still much to come. Would love to see more innovative films like EEAAO!

r95, If Curtis is nominated for supporting actress, then EEAAO will be nominated. I hated last year's (?) Korean Basement Dwellers, but THIS was a popcorn ride!

[quote] 2. It will start and end from a place of joy.

Sorry, you can't film it at my houses.

[quote]Everything Everywhere All At Once is total Academy bait.

I'm not as big a fan of that movie as a lot of people (I like it, but don't love it), but I appreciate that it's in the awards conversation because it's not Oscar bait at all. It's a weird mix of science-fiction, action and comedy that has jokes about hot dog hands and trophies shaped like butt plugs. That's nowhere near a traditional Oscar movie like The King's Speech.

As for Till, beyond Deadwyler and Score, I don't think it has much of a shot for anything else. There's a lot that feels amateurish or underdeveloped about the movie, from the "Hi, I'm Medgar Evers and this is my wife Myrlie" type introductions to some really cliched dialogue (lines like "I don't think you should do this, but I know I can't stop you" pop up a lot more often than they should). And even Deadwyler sometimes relies on some really distracting acting tics, like constantly fluttering her eyelashes.

American history should be told, and I don't see the problem with this film.

Also, I bet Carolyn Bryant is a Trump supporter. Someone should look up if she's still active in voting. She's probably definitely a deplorable!!!

[quote]Isn't the old bitch who accused him of whistling at her still alive or something?

She's terminally ill and in hospice care at home. A grand jury decided earlier this year not to indict her for her role in the murder.

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[bold]WaPo: In unpublished memoir, Emmett Till's accuser calls herself "a victim"[/bold]

Chinonye Chukwu sounds like a contestant on the Price is RIght.

r101 What the actual fuck, that cunt is still alive?

It looks a bit schmaltzy (I honestly thought it was made for TV at first), but I'm sure the distributor is just laying it on thick for the Oscar voters. Clemency was a beautiful little movie, the director is very talented.

I'm also happy for Whoopi, who produced this from the ground-up. Would love to see her get another acting nom (and best picture). She's annoying as fuck on The View, but is one of the most underrated actresses ever. She has 10x the range and presence of a Viola Davis or Jessica Chastain. I watched her one woman show again recently and was struck by what an amazing storyteller she is, playing all those different characters with staggering naturalism. Hollywood just never knew what to do with her. She's a real original.

Jazmine Sullivan also did the song for the movie, and I'm a big fan of her vocals and songwriting.

[quote] If you're wanting a white audience to confront uncomfortable truths

Uncomfortable truths about something that happened in a backwater hick town 67 years ago? Why is it always just white people atrocities that need to be revisited over and over and over again? No other race has ever been vile at times?

R106 The shit white America did and continues to do, was and is horrific and know one has ever been held accountable for any of it!!

It's also American history that should be learned and never forgotten. 400 plus years of white Americans undermining Black Americans every step if the way is not something that should ever be forgotten about. People like you believe it's stirring the pot, when in reality, it's abou accountablity and making sure it never happens again moving forward.

R107 - OK. Are you also upset about the African kings who enslaved other blacks and sold them to white colonialists? Do you get upset that most crime against black people is perpetrated by other black people? Or is all of that still whitey's fault?

No one is saying white atrocities get a pass, but it's the relentless drumbeat while blissfully ignoring the horrific histories of EVERYONE else that upsets "people like me". Be even and fair, that's all. And yes, you are stirring the pot.

[quote]BLM was given its due. The 2O21 Oscars were a homage to Black America. For approximately 10% (12?) the continual victimization of those with increased melanin in the US is wearing thin on an already overburdened populace

r38 it's just a movie recounting a historically significant event. It doesn't have to be a political statement; people like you receive it as such because its about black people. Hollywood makes movies about historically significant white people all the time and no one cares. If Hollywood was more culturally diverse in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, people like you wouldn't feel the need to equate modern social justice movements with a motion picture. Harriet Tubman's biopic stalled for 25 years before it got greenlit.

In short, if you have a problem with the proliferation of movies about black history now, you only have white Hollywood to blame for delaying them for so long.

R31, I've been held up at gun point, beaten up, insulted and harassed, all by blacks. A lot has happened since Emmett's murder, including an astronomical number of violent crimes and murders by black males perpetuated against Whites and Asians. This is a story that is seldom told.

[quote] I've been held up at gun point, beaten up, insulted and harassed, all by blacks.

Sounds like you're the problem.

I can safely say that no one else here has gone through what you "claim" to have gone through.

In actuality, I'm thinking you're just a race-baiting troll.

[quote]I have never seen anyone complain about the many films about the Holocaust- just films about injustices done to Black people.

lol

R111 was mugged 3 times in NYC. All 3 times terrorized by black men. My experience is not unique.

The audience for this is white folks who want to feel better about themselves by watching Negro Poverty Porn.

There will have to be at least one or two *I'm not racist* white people in it.

R111 Twice in Park Slope in the 90s, within a week, I was mugged, first by two black men on a Saturday night, and then by a group of about ten teenage boys in broad daylight in the middle of an intersection in the road. The second group said into my ear “Let’s kill this one.” If we hadn’t been blocking traffic and there was a line of cars honking to get through, they wouldn’t have dropped me and walked away. The first car asked what was going on and when I said I was being mugged they had me get into my car and they drove me home.

Where I was working was on Eastern Parkway and one side of the road was one police precinct and a different one on the other side. The muggers knew this and that it caused confusion about who was responsible and who was to police it. Most of the people at my work walked to work along that corridor and more than 50% were mugged over the time period of a year. We needed to end up having walking home parties where large gangs of us would wait in the lobby and walk home together for protection. The police did absolutely nothing.

I also was mugged in broad daylight in the early 2000s in the Hill District in Pittsburgh by two Black men with witnesses watching. I was very good at that point about what to do and foiled their robbery. I still find it unforgivable that the two witnesses, who were also white, did nothing to help me. I walked alone down the hill to the hospital I worked at, stopped into to tell them I couldn’t work that day and went straight to the emergency to deal with the results of being kicked on the ground and pummeled with fists.

I’m savvy person when it comes to protecting myself and being aware in the city, it can happen to anyone and R111 is victim shaming. I’ve primarily worked with African American people most of my life, and I don’t blame or hate them for what happened to me, though I was very wary for long after these incidences of groups of Black teens and actively avoided contact with them. But I certainly didn’t become racist over it. One thing though, I don’t believe in any of these experiences I was targeted for being Gay, though I’m obviously a Gay man, and for me this made a huge difference. I don’t think I would have been able to recover fro:these experiences as quickly and fully if that was the case, and being Gay bashed is a much more terrifying fear than being mugged ever will be.

R113, where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

The Woman of the Movement series on Mamie and Emmett that aired on ABC earlier this year was excellent. I hope Whoopi's film will be equally as great.

It's too bad they couldn't get this project off the ground in the 90s 'cause I always thought Annabella Sciorra was a dead ringer for Anita Bryant. Annabella is prettier than that evil cunt though.

[quote]where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

You weren't living there in the 1970s were you? You weren't living at 96th street were you? You weren't coming home at night from work were you?

Block r118 and 90% of this thread disappears. Dude is deranged, a movie about Emmett fucking Till sent him off the deep end -- good riddance, rubbish racist person!

[quote] Annabella Sciorra was a dead ringer for Anita Bryant. Annabella is prettier than that evil cunt though.

R117 - Not in my little corner of the world, bitch

Let's try that again. The Homosexualists are interring with my interwebs.

R119 Dear, I've posted exactly 4 posts on this thread. 5 if you include this response to your bizarre accusation.

Has the movie actually come out yet?

[Quote]where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

It can and does happen anywhere in NYC

[Quote]where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

Did you ever take the subway?

[Quote]where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

You were lucky

[Quote]where do you hang out in NYC that would cause you to get mugged 3 times? I lived in NYC for 3 years and visited over 20 times without any trouble.

Did you ever go out?

It's clearly you, R124-R127.

After reading your incessant posts about the evils of black people, I'm even more convinced now that you're a raging lunatic.

Once again, it MUST be you.

R67, oh trust me the ratings will be up because of Will's stunt.

R127, I haven't read all the comments but wtf does that have to do with this film. Why troll?

It was in response to the post quoted R130. Examples of people being attack in NYC that one poster found incredible based on their experience. and all the news stories are just from last week. And you do know that threads tend to go off track on DL.

Yall are way off topic at this point, what the fuck does people getting mugged in NYC have to do with Emmett Till? Get a grip.

R132, it's just that one psycho posting about getting beaten, raped and mugged in NYC by some imaginary black people.

Just trying to derail the thread.

Let's make a list of pompous, "take me seriously" movies titled with the last names of the heroes.

"Till." "Milk." "Gandhi."

Jefferson in Paris

Patton

Nixon in China

R110 do you mind if I ask the scenario in which you were held at gunpoint. I think it will serve as profound inspiration to trauma victims. Also where are you from. Please share your story, we would like to hear.

You forgot the most pompous of them all, R134: Spencer.

There are a few good ones (Silkwood, Serpico) to offset the ponderous bores (Hoffa, Chaplin).

Oh nevermind r110 I continued reading the rest of the thread. You are such a survivor.

Rofl. R110 is clearly talking to his deranged self in this thread. (See R138).

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU OR YOUR STUPID STORY.

Go start your own thread, moron.

[quote] Please share your story, we would like to hear.

No, we really don't.

R115 I call bullshit. Who the fuck gets mugged in broad daylight in the middle of two precincts in populated ass new york city. Broad daylight bro/sis? Fuck outta here.

it does happen even to tourists in central park in broad daylight R140

and to EMS workers in the middle of the afternoon R140

and in Chelsea on a Sunday afternoon

[Quote]I call bullshit. Who the fuck gets mugged in broad daylight in the middle of two precincts in populated ass new york city. Broad daylight bro/sis? Fuck outta here

and on the UES

You fucking obsessed loon, it wasn't the mere fact of broad daylight. It was also the impracticality of two precincts nearby and the poster claimed she was in the middle of them. It just seems incredulous, and the person is trying to make some type of foolish beauracracy point.

R145 Random crimes are spontaneous, and the perpetrator isn't concerned about the proximity of precincts. One of the fatalities was an FDNY EMS worker. Central Park, the UES and Chelsea are busy and there are obviously precincts nearby as well as police patrolling. There are only so many police versus 9M New Yorkers

Another trailer that makes actually seeing the film redundant

R145 Really, how do you think precincts are divided? They’re divided by streets. Eastern Parkway from the Brooklyn Museum to Grand Army Plaza is the dividing line between Park Slope, Precinct 78 and Prospect Heights Precinct 77. There’s a park that runs between the Brooklyn museum and library (Botanical Gardens entrance in between) and for the most part it is steep and fenced off with entrances at each end to enter the park and about a quarter of a mile long.

There’s about 6 lanes of traffic to the opposite side of the Eastern Parkway that is lined with apartment buildings. In the 90s many of these were abandoned and boarded up or in the process of being gentrified and set up for new housing. Most people didn’t feel safe walking alongside those buildings as there were a lot of homeless encampments and drug deals going on there. The corridor was like a no man’s land and a large percentage of people who worked at the museum lived in Park Slope so they walked down the parkway.

When you call the police they want an address to respond to. The Park Slope park side didn’t have addresses, because it’s the park, so if you give the address that’s across the street, it was a completely different jurisdiction. Neither really wanted to deal with this crime corridor and when trying to report anything that happened you were usually bounced back and forth between them. Because of the steep fenced in park and the busy lanes of traffic you were trapped on the sidewalk there if people were coming after you, one of the few escapes being running in to traffic and being hit by a car. People were being shaken down and picked off daily, and the police were disinterested, leaving it to the other precinct to deal with.

You NYC mugger people should start another thread so this one can stay on topic. I almost forgot what we were originally talking about.

This is the corridor as it appeared on Eastern Parkway when it was first built. In the early 1990s there were race riots going on in Prospect Heights opposite the museum between the West Indian Blacks and the Hassidic Jews that the police were very involved in managing and were not so interested in keeping up with the day to day crime.

R147, it leaves out one of Deadwyler's big moments, but that trailer is a pretty comprehensive summary of how the film progresses. The movie really about on the level of an HBO movie from about twenty years ago: polished, well-acted, respectable, yet ultimately forgettable.

[quote]Blacks make up 13% of the population they should only be committing 13% of the crimes, instead, they are committing crimes almost three times as many crimes as they should be. Black on white crime is 9:1

[quote]This is NOW. Let's hear about that.

Of course, this is a response on DL. Of course it is. Because shedding a light on this country's fucked up past bothers your soul.

I look forward to this film making White people as uncomfortable as many of them were when 'Roots' first aired.

Cry more.

Zzzzzzz. Zzzzzz. Zzzzzz.

[Quote] I almost forgot what we were originally talking about.

R149 that may be due to the film being forgettable; formulaic, strictly by-the-numbers

[Quote]polished, well-acted, respectable, yet ultimately forgettable.

[Quote]You fucking obsessed loon,

Your brain on meth.

[quote] Of course, this is a response on DL. Of course it is. Because shedding a light on this country's fucked up past bothers your soul.

And shedding a light on the here and now hurts yours. I'd rather live in the present, not the past, but to each his own.

TILL when exactly?

[Quote]I look forward to this film making White people as uncomfortable as many of them were when 'Roots' first aired.

You're assuming that there will be an audience for this formulaic cliched tired old Oscar bait. The only discomfort will be among those who financed the film

[quote]Because shedding a light on this country's fucked up past bothers your soul. I look forward to this film making White people as uncomfortable as many of them were when 'Roots' first aired.

Bothers our soul? Make us uncomfortable? By now , what it does do is bore us to tears.

You'd be better off watching the documentary which has the look and sound of the time than the film Till seems to have.

has more of the look and sound of the time^

Who are these posters trying to make everyone's mind up for them. This film IS important and will be seen. You tried it though.

Roots didn't make people uncomfortable, it was must-see TV that everybody watched.

I've noticed that youngsters and their enablers really want to rewrite the past so they can feel special and more enlightened. Every time I hear about housing discrimination I wonder if the person talking about it is aware that housing discrimination laws have been around for more than 50 years and we're getting close to 60 on the Civil Rights Act.

Thud!

[QUOTE] Who are these posters trying to make everyone's mind up for them. This film IS important and will be seen.

R162 answered their own question and doesn't know it...

Most young people think the only progress made started with them. Most young people are woefully ignorant.

And most old people are woefully ignorant AND stubborn. At least young people will adapt and change their ignorance.

R167 - What an ignorant thing to say... ahh, youth. Hope you're pretty.

Would Chinonye Chukwu become the first black woman to win a "Best Director" Oscar, if she wins for this movie?

I feel terrible for saying this, but I saw it last night and didn't like it very much. I agree with many of you that said that this is an important story that must be told. I thought I was familiar with the case but did learn many things I didn't know.

I think that Deadwyler is an incredible actress but don't think she was directed well here. She had two emotions that she played, completely stoic or raging grief. This movie was not subtle at all. Whoopi's scenes all played like "We have Whoopi and need to do something with her". There were several continuity problems.

I don't feel good at all for saying that I don't think it was very good.

I usually give movies like this a pass. Very upsetting. If you've seen the horrible pictures of Till in his casket, you know it will be a bit of a grief wallow and I'm in a bit of a funk, right now. I will probably see it when the SAG screeners come out in a few weeks.

[quote]I feel terrible for saying this, but I saw it last night and didn't like it very much.

Why in the world does it make you feel terrible for saying that you didn't like it very much?

This and Armageddon Time probably makes a good double feature. I really liked Woman King and Tar, is this movie better than those two? Is Danielle Deadwyler going to snatch Best Actress from Cate and Viola?

R173 - With those movies packing the categories at the Oscars, it'll be another massive ratings flop.

Exactly, R174. No one cares about a no-name female composer.

^ conductor

Till Opened wide this weekend

United Artists Releasing

Gross $1,037,110 $1,013,553 $760,164 - - - -

Theaters 2,058 2,058 2,058 - - - -

Average $503 $492 $369 - - - -- - - -

GTD $1,863,757 $2,877,310 $3,637,000 - - - -

[Quote]Because shedding a light on this country's fucked up past bothers your soul. I look forward to this film making White people as uncomfortable as many of them were when 'Roots' first aired.

Unfortunately, on its wide release opening weekend it attracted less of an audience than Bros

WRONG! R111. Sorry you can't handle the truth. Go ahead, blame the victim. Grow up in New York City and a lot of shit happens. I've seen what happened to me, happen to other white, Asian and Spanish people. Crime statistics tell the truth about black violence. The ubiquity of cameras is showing the truth about what many of us have experienced for many years.

R177, your numbers are very hard to read.

What a fucked up world we now live in.

Every racist has shown up here advising that they cannot watch one more film about injustices done to others, as they themselves, continue to actively participate in perpetuating injustices towards others.

R180 it made $3.6M in its 3rd week of release after opening wide on Friday in 2,058 theaters. It made less than Bros did on its 1st weekend.

[QUOTE]Every racist has shown up here advising that they cannot watch one more film about injustices done to others

Hear that? If you're not interested in seeing this film you're a racist!

[Quote]Hear that? If you're not interested in seeing this film you're a racist!

Billy Eichner would agree I'm sure

I wouldn't bet on it OP

I will be accepting the Oscar, on Miss Chinonye Chukwu's behalf, as she has taken ill this evening.

As long as VIOLA DAVIS is iced out of the awards show, I'm good with it.

#Oscarsogold

Spielberg launches his Oscar campaign.

Wakanda Forever will win Best Picture before Till does.