I hope it’s good!
‘Frasier’ sequel officially happening at Paramount+
|by Anonymous||reply 136||December 6, 2022 1:18 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||October 4, 2022 10:44 PM|
I love Frasier, but I don't picture this working.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||October 4, 2022 10:45 PM|
I'll wait and hold judgement until I it.
But i hope this is not a situation like Murphy Brown, which should have starred Avery Brown with his mother Murphy there as a supporting player.
Maybe Fraiser needs to star Freddie Crane with his father Frasier as a supporting player.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||October 4, 2022 11:15 PM|
[quote] I hope it’s good!
I will be picking the scenery out of my teeth.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||October 4, 2022 11:45 PM|
I’m this one, he provides therapy to all the other nursing home residents.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||October 5, 2022 12:05 AM|
Looking forward to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||October 5, 2022 12:11 AM|
Frasier was funny way back. It has not aged well at all when I see reruns. I also hate Kelsey Grammer.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||October 5, 2022 12:12 AM|
Without the talented writers or supporting cast. Fail.
Interestingly, even before they’d figured out the show, Jane Leeves announced she wouldn’t join.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||October 5, 2022 2:20 AM|
I liked everything about the original except the audience laughter. The writing and cast were great; the laughing not so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||October 5, 2022 3:24 AM|
[quote]Details about the new series are also not being revealed beyond the fact that it is focused on Frasier Crane’s (Grammer) next chapter in a different city. He will be surrounded by new characters, with original Frasier cast members not expected to be series regulars but could make guest appearances.
I wonder who would be interested in making a guest appearance, Kirstie Alley was the only Cheers cast member who didn't make an appearance on Frasier.
Seasons 8-11 of Frasier were just meh. Married Niles & Daphne weren't very interesting, I don't remember how Roz's story was wrapped up but her character lost it's spark when she became a mother and John Mahoney & the two dogs who played Eddie passed away so it's good that they aren't continuing the Seattle story line but like R7 said, Kelsey Grammer isn't the most likeable person.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||October 5, 2022 3:51 AM|
I might watch an episode if Bebe Neuwirth makes an appearance but otherwise I'll pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||October 5, 2022 3:53 AM|
All of the Freddies sucked, so I hope that improves if he is going to appear on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||October 5, 2022 3:57 AM|
Does Camille still have IBS?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||October 5, 2022 3:59 AM|
I just don't see how the original can be bettered or equaled.
Unless it's more in a dramedy vein where Frasier starts to realize he's pushing 70 and his commitment issues prevented him from a real life.....or if Frederick is the strong personality and Frasier is, in essence, the Martin.
The other OG cast members seem to have very politely and warmly wished Kelsey well and are very WISELY steering clear of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||October 5, 2022 8:36 PM|
This brings both excitement and trepidation. Aside from the brilliant writing, one of the things that really made Frasier such a joy was the chemistry of the cast, and by all accounts Kelsey Grammar is the only cast mate involved. If they’ve persuaded David Hyde Pierce to sign up I’d be much more hopeful. But I’ll still be tuning in.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||October 5, 2022 8:42 PM|
David Hyde Pierce is too busy scrambling Julia Child's eggs on that HBO Max series.
Please say no more about it, or 30 of the fattest, nelliest eldergay queens will be in here huffing, hissing and screeching about how historically incorrect that series is.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||October 5, 2022 8:47 PM|
David Hyde Pierce is ESSENTIAL for this having any shot at working. They were perfect counterpoints. Martin Crane was the grounding force in the original, that allowed them to really cut loose into their poncy-ness. With Mahoney gone, it'll be interesting how they solve this crucial character dynamic. Bebe Neuwirth could be a welcome recurring presence, as could a host of the original supporting cast... This will really come down to the writing though. Those original Frasier writers were cream of the crop.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||October 5, 2022 8:48 PM|
FRASIER OG was best with Joe Keenan's brilliant farcial writing. A writer whose best known credit is HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER does NOT inspire confidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||October 5, 2022 8:50 PM|
Did Bebe Glazer broker the deal? Or was it her junior-agent?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||October 5, 2022 8:56 PM|
Funny I am watching the original again and find it holds up well. The last few seasons, despised by many, still has some really funny episodes. The "bad Billy" one with Patrick Stewart is hysterical.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||October 5, 2022 8:56 PM|
I despise him now. I'll only watch for this.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||October 5, 2022 8:58 PM|
Has Frasier come out as gay or at least bi yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||October 5, 2022 9:17 PM|
In fairness, they may feel they mined all the material of the Frasier-Niles relationship.
After a few episodes of the old cast back we might grow weary of hearing them repeat the same beats.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||October 5, 2022 9:19 PM|
Fraser assumes the Martin role and moves in with Freddie. New supporting cast with guest spots for Bebe and DHP. Give the audience something new and don’t try to recreate the old.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||October 5, 2022 9:28 PM|
R8 I think she only said that numerous years ago about leaving her current sitcom.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||October 5, 2022 9:36 PM|
Paramount+? Nobody is going to watch this.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||October 5, 2022 9:39 PM|
R25 Levee is in The Resident.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||October 5, 2022 9:43 PM|
If the people making this have any brains they'll drive a big truck full of money to Bebe Neuwirth's house in hopes of convincing her to participate.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||October 5, 2022 9:59 PM|
Hey, Paramount+ has more than triple the paid subscribers that Peacock has.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||October 5, 2022 10:04 PM|
If you have Spectrum cable you can get a year of Peacock for free. If you want it.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||October 5, 2022 10:49 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 31||October 5, 2022 10:50 PM|
Would you want DHP to wear a wig if he returns? Could he play Niles without a wig?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||October 5, 2022 11:03 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 33||October 6, 2022 1:06 AM|
Kelsey Grammer used to be one of those Hollywood Republicans who I was OK with since I wasn't aware of anything that would indicate that he was a bigot of any kind. However, a year or so ago, even after Trump got voted out , he went to MAL to kiss his ring. After that, I have no interest in this reboot - he's a fucking MAGAt.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||October 6, 2022 1:07 AM|
Will he wear a dress and get pegged?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||October 6, 2022 1:16 AM|
I would like to what happened to Bulldog.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||October 6, 2022 1:33 AM|
R17 I agree completely.
I still laugh at that episode when Niles made that basketball shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||October 6, 2022 1:36 AM|
I, for one, am in favour of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||October 6, 2022 1:42 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 39||October 6, 2022 1:47 AM|
R39 I came here to say that
|by Anonymous||reply 40||October 6, 2022 1:50 AM|
Frasier was the worst character on his own show. I Jean Smart's dimwitted son Kirby and the dimwitted maintance man and the dimwitted barista better.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||October 6, 2022 1:54 AM|
Daphne's mother was the worst and the most pointless character by a long shot.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||October 6, 2022 3:48 AM|
I think it will be Frasier being Martin and Freddie Frasier. I can see roles swapped with Freddie being blue collar. Leeves not coming back is a blessing, I hated her character and she and Niles had zero chemistry. The funniest episodes of Frasier were the guest stars, BeBe, Kim Coles’ character, Mercedes Ruehl... they should have him end up back in Boston as a twist.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||October 6, 2022 3:56 AM|
It'll only work if Roz transitioned to Rick between the two series.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||October 6, 2022 4:09 AM|
I actually agree that Frasier was probably my least favourite character on the show. Unless he was paired with Niles, his storylines generally revolved around boring doomed romances. If I see an episode is focused on Frasier’s love life, I’m often tempted to skip. I really hope they’ll at least have David HP as a semi regular guest star?
Someone was complaining about Daphne’s character. I thought she was wonderful in the early seasons but they truly gutted the character after she married Niles. They stripped away her quirky eccentricities and made her a generic, nagging sitcom wife. Maybe they can redeem that if they bring her on.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||October 6, 2022 9:22 AM|
What are writers Joe Keenan and David Lee up to now? Have they decided not to work on the reboot?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||October 6, 2022 3:12 PM|
You kid, R31, but I would love if Shelley Long appeared on this and we could see Diane's story end a bit more happily this time!
|by Anonymous||reply 47||October 6, 2022 3:26 PM|
Didn't one of the producers die on 9-11? I think he was in one of the planes.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||October 6, 2022 3:33 PM|
I believe it was David Lee's husband who died on 9/11.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||October 6, 2022 3:39 PM|
This doesn't sound interesting at all. The most likeable character (Marty) is already dead, Niles probably divorced since Leeves won't joint the cast. So it's basically only Frasier with occasional guest appearances of Niles and Roz and a bunch of new characters nobody really cares about. Also, radio is dead. What will Frasier do professionally? Hosting a right-wing podcast like Joe Rogan?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||October 6, 2022 3:46 PM|
Why won’t Jane Leeves be involved? Did I miss something?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||October 6, 2022 4:08 PM|
R47, I would love that. She got the shaft in the Cheers finale. I think Sam also didn’t end up with too happy of an ending when we saw him on Frasier. I can’t help but want those two senior citizens to get a happy ending. I’d actually watch a show about them in their twilight years.
David Angell, the producer and creator of Frasier and Wings died on 9/11, along with his wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||October 6, 2022 4:37 PM|
Since I've been rewatching old shows (waiting on my new ones to restart) I was thinking of watching Wings. I never saw it bit is it worth a go for a few laughs?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||October 6, 2022 4:51 PM|
Wings is surprisingly good and holds up well.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||October 6, 2022 4:57 PM|
R53, I love Wings. I actually prefer it to Frasier.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||October 6, 2022 5:09 PM|
Pierce or no dice. Impossible for this to be a hit without him.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||October 6, 2022 5:21 PM|
David Angell is the one who died on 9/11. Not gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||October 6, 2022 5:26 PM|
The worst character was Sherry, which was a huge disappointment to me because I LOVE Marsha Mason, but that character was the fucking worst.
There are a lot of shows where the main character isn't as compelling as everyone around them, but the actors are still good, and unfortunately Grammer is not one of those actors. His performances are hit and miss, and it's a mistake to take what was an ensemble show and try to spin it off solely with Frasier and none of the supporting cast.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||October 6, 2022 5:34 PM|
R51, doesn’t sound like they approached the original cast aside from Kelsey.
But when the project was first announced as being in development, Jane was asked if she might be joining and she said no. Maybe she was trying to show her commitment to her current show. There were never any hints that the cast couldn’t stand Kelsey but who knows.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||October 6, 2022 5:39 PM|
I don't see how you could like Kelsey. Trumper cokehead. No thanks
|by Anonymous||reply 60||October 6, 2022 6:05 PM|
What is Peri Gilpin up to?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||October 6, 2022 6:36 PM|
Hey! Why not bring back Petticoat Junction or Green Acres? If creativity is dead--let's bring back the true classics.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||October 6, 2022 6:44 PM|
Peri was just playing Allison's mom on Kevin Can Go Fuck Himself. She also played Abbie's mom on Broad City. Unfortunately it looks like the surgeon went a little heavy with the knife.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||October 6, 2022 7:02 PM|
David Angell and his wife Lynn died on Flight 11 on 9/11. Niles and Daphne's kid is David after him.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||October 6, 2022 8:54 PM|
Freddie rebells, become a fireman, marries Alice, Roz's kid, Frasier is injured and has to move in with Freddie and Alice, who are childless, but have a well-trained Eddie like dog. Perhaps in Chicago, where Alice works for WXRT. David Crane, child of Niles and Daphne, is a grad or med/law student at U of C or Northwestern. Guest stars everyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||October 6, 2022 9:02 PM|
I love the original show. Specifically, Seasons 1-5 are GREAT television. Seasons 6-8 are unevenly good television. Seasons 9-11 are somewhat watchable but overall creatively bereft.
Rebooting the show is such a bad idea. Nobody is clamoring for more Frasier other than Kelsey Grammer. He has more money than God, and he outdid all of his Cheers castmates career-wise (including Ted and Woody), so, really, what else does he have to prove? Why do this?
Kelsey, you are 67 years old, please just retire.
But I would still watch it to see how bad it would be.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||October 6, 2022 9:21 PM|
R64 what a looney tune website.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||October 6, 2022 10:37 PM|
I couldn't get though an entire episode. I'll never understand why this show was so popular.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||October 6, 2022 11:46 PM|
Do radio hosts make a lot of money? I always wondered how Frasier could afford that penthouse apartment and lifestyle with a radio host salary. They treated him like he was an A list celeb in Hollywood making millions with a live in housekeeper/nanny. The show was ridiculous.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||October 7, 2022 2:16 PM|
Not really seeing that Kelsey Grammar has had a better career than Woody Harrelson.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||October 7, 2022 2:42 PM|
Ted Danson had a lot of TV shows but no real movie success after Three Men and a Baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||October 10, 2022 5:24 PM|
I really think tv success is better in the long run than film. Look at Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie. Jennifer is beloved from that show and resonates with younger generations more than Jolie.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||October 10, 2022 5:49 PM|
^Yeah, plus, she still makes $20 million/year for a show that ended almost 20 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||October 10, 2022 6:10 PM|
While working on Frasier, Kelsey Grammer wisely shifted into director and producer roles. He has way more producer and executive producer credits than Ted or Woody, and therefore, makes way more money than they do.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||October 10, 2022 7:44 PM|
This makes even guest appearances sound like they're out of the question. Hyde Pierce is wisely steering clear of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||November 24, 2022 7:15 AM|
I really want to be excited. Frasier is perhaps my favourite sitcom. But, let’s face it, Frasier himself was probably the least compelling character of the ensemble. I’m not expecting greatness from this.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||November 24, 2022 10:28 AM|
[quote]"We'll certainly be responsive about the fact that there was a brother and such," says Grammer.
If he's just blithely shrugging off the "brother and such" like this, then he's either forgotten or never really understood the reason the original series was a hit.
I suppose younger people who don't remember it might not be bothered by it, but a lot of us saw the character of Frasier on both Cheers and his own show AND guest-starring on Wings, over the course of TWENTY YEARS, and seeing this character in yet another, new, fourth context just seems like too much.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||November 24, 2022 10:38 AM|
[quote]‘Frasier’ sequel officially happening at Paramount+
Which will make it remarkably easy to avoid.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||November 24, 2022 10:52 AM|
I can't see anyone enjoying this. Young people aren't going to give a shit about this in general. Its the sequel a 20 year old show that most of them won't have watched, on the streaming app almost nobody has, about a mid 60s radio psychiatrist played by a Republican. For the older crowd who watched it originally non of the original cast who made the show work are back, I knew DHP was always unlikely but I'd have thought Leeves and Gilpin might have at least showed up for an episode. Now all this disaster needs to be complete is for them to go with that plot they suggested the other year of Freddy a kid raised by Frasier and Lilith somehow turning out an average working class joe like Martin living with Frasier.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||November 24, 2022 10:54 AM|
The fact that Grammer went to MAL to kiss Trump's ring certainly won't generate much goodwill for this, at least not among the hoped for audience. Plus, what else can be said about this character in 2022? And you thought W&G v2.0 and "And Just Like That" were bad...
|by Anonymous||reply 80||November 24, 2022 12:30 PM|
R72 Plus, the long shooting schedules that actors complained about (22 episodes a year) means for a lot of episodes, so their shows run in syndication forever.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||November 24, 2022 12:41 PM|
There used to be someone here that always posted in any thread that mentioned Grammer that he [Grammer] molested his kid's underage babysitter and paid her off.
They never seem to do it anymore, so I did it for them.
Anyway, it IS funny how Grammer constantly whines about how much "prejudice" he has faced as a Republican in Hollywood, but he got away with that.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||November 24, 2022 12:44 PM|
I can see this going the way of the Saved By the Bell reboot. I didn’t watch it, but from what I gathered, although it started off focusing on new characters they quickly ended up roping in all the old cast, presumably to boost flagging ratings.
OR, they might capture lightning in a bottle a second time around and have a fantastic cast with tremendous chemistry and first rate writing. I truly hope.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||November 24, 2022 12:52 PM|
How he could even hope for lightning in a bottle for a THIRD time is beyond me. Where's the gratitude?
DHP was my favorite performer on the original by a mile, and with him wisely staying away, this show will have to hope whichever new characters they come up with can make this venture worthwhile. It's an incredible longshot, to be kind.
The Fraiser writers made the series as witty and smart as it was. None of them are going near this? Okay. That's all I need to know.
And KG is a MAGA?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||November 24, 2022 1:16 PM|
R84 You didn't know he was a Republican? He NEVER SHUTS UP about it!
|by Anonymous||reply 85||November 24, 2022 1:22 PM|
This is my favorite example.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||November 24, 2022 1:23 PM|
The last time I even thought about him, he was playing Beast in X-Men.
Go away Kelsey. You suck. What a moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||November 24, 2022 1:24 PM|
For a long time, I was able to separate my enjoyment of a number of his projects from him being a publicly declared Republican. Particularly, since there was no indication that he was your typical right wing bigot. But, once I read that he was a Trump supporter, it was "bye, gurl."
|by Anonymous||reply 88||November 24, 2022 1:26 PM|
It should open with Fraiser in divorce court. Then reveal that he is splitting up with Bulldog.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||November 24, 2022 1:54 PM|
Tim Daly keeps calling for a Wings reboot.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||November 24, 2022 2:01 PM|
Well, that's one anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||November 24, 2022 2:05 PM|
R88 I couldn't take him when I found out he was one of those "people only hate me because I'm a Republican" victim types, and that was long before he went all-in for Trump.
Gary Senise is a Republican and people in Hollywood love him, so Grammer is full of shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||November 24, 2022 2:12 PM|
Without Niles, the show is DOA, let alone the rest of the cast. I really enjoy the show and still watch reruns, but the whole charm of the show is the brothers and the father butting heads.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||November 24, 2022 2:21 PM|
It's interesting the things you see when you rewatch shows after many years. I've been rewatching Frasier and realized that John Mahoney is the heart of the show, the axle around which the spokes revolve both premise-wise and character-wise. Plus, he was very likeable and an excellent, subtle actor. Without him, the scenery-chewing of Frasier and Niles would have been intolerable.
A cast like that is lightning in a bottle. And writers like that -- they don't make 'em that way any more.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||November 24, 2022 2:50 PM|
I would have gone for a well-written reunion movie, with a super polished script.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||November 24, 2022 2:55 PM|
Yes! Bring back Frasier, as we are all want to see a 70+ year old man go through many meet-cute situations to find his new love!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||November 24, 2022 2:56 PM|
I’d happily watch a show revolving around Niles. Some of my favourite scenes were where Niles was alone. I don’t think I would bother with Frasier but will watch a couple of episodes to see what direction they go with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||November 24, 2022 3:02 PM|
R96 There's a funny scene on Mr. Robot, where a twentysomething obsessed with 90s sitcoms, says after watching Fraiser, something like, "I don't get why so many hot chicks want to bang some balding old white guy."
|by Anonymous||reply 98||November 24, 2022 3:13 PM|
Fraser as a very late in life gay man might work.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||November 24, 2022 3:34 PM|
R99 The show would've been better if Fraiser had been gay. Fraiser's endless parade of girlfriends was the least interesting thing about it.
I know it's not a popular opinion on DL, but I liked Niles and Daphne.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||November 24, 2022 3:37 PM|
That’s just it. I liked Niles and Daphne. I did NOT like Niles and Daphne as a couple.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||November 24, 2022 4:19 PM|
I didn’t like them as a couple either, r101. But I liked both of them separately.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||November 24, 2022 4:22 PM|
[quote] FOR GOD SAKE FREDERICK! THE DEMOCRATS ARE AT IT AGAIN ATTACKING HARD WORKING CELEBRITY PSYCHATRISTS! (Kelsey looks at the camera for a full 10 seconds) Now lets go meet your future 19 year old stepmother. She used to be Miss Teen America you know.
Letting Kelsey in the writers room for this is probably going to be a mistake. At least he got the producers credit during the original he was too drunk and coked up to actually do anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||November 24, 2022 4:35 PM|
They should have made Niles divorce Maris and come out of the closet.
In retrospect, Frasier with all those better looking women was unrealistic, but it’s a work of fiction. They can’t do it again, but they probably will.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||November 24, 2022 4:40 PM|
It's highly unlikely with conservative Kelsey at the helm, but I would be amused and watch if: - Frederick grows up to be transgender, Frasier is cancelled for some malaprop foot-in-mouth incident related to it - Niles is serving a prison sentence for... I dunno... being the fall guy for something to do with the opioid epidemic lawsuits? - Daphne has returned to Manchester to be Gertrude's carer - Roz has moved to California, where along with Bebe Glazer, they manage Alice's influencer "career" - Kate (the Mercedes Ruehl character that like with all multi-episode female guest stars, was underutilized and then dropped) hires Frasier to be an overnight classical music feed host - David Crane grows up to be a rap star
|by Anonymous||reply 105||November 24, 2022 4:47 PM|
This reboot is taking longer to cook than Norm Peterson's turkey.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||November 24, 2022 5:07 PM|
Spoiler: he just didn't want to.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||November 24, 2022 7:12 PM|
Wow they really do look old.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||November 25, 2022 7:08 AM|
[QUOTE]In retrospect, Frasier with all those better looking women was unrealistic
It was pretty damn unrealistic at the time, not just retrospectively.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||November 25, 2022 8:21 AM|
Well women are drawn to powerful men regardless of looks.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||November 25, 2022 2:44 PM|
R110 Was Fraiser Crane really all that "powerful?"
|by Anonymous||reply 111||November 25, 2022 2:49 PM|
Aren't these people rich enough? Leave us alone!
|by Anonymous||reply 112||November 25, 2022 2:51 PM|
This is just too bad, it is a show I still watch and enjoy, and I would never watch a reboot without the other actors. Grammar hasn't been able to get traction on another sitcom since. I liked him in the film with him as the washed up rock star with the daughter, but not another thing. Without Lilith/Martin/Roz/Niles, he isn't compelling enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||November 25, 2022 2:59 PM|
The only way it would work is for him to take on the cranky old dad role who can't relate to his son, but they were exactly alike, unless Freddy really leaned into the goth thing and is a failed musician who fried his brain on drugs and burnt out like some of the boy geniuses I knew grow up.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||November 25, 2022 3:03 PM|
I'm more excited for the Night Court reboot.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||November 25, 2022 3:08 PM|
suck it, Frasier!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||November 25, 2022 3:10 PM|
[quote] Niles is serving a prison sentence for... I dunno
Something that Maris did.
I think DHP is right....if it comes back it needs to say something different or explore another idea. This was the mistake Murphy Brown made....it relied too much on revisiting old stuff. (It was also not all that funny.)
|by Anonymous||reply 117||November 25, 2022 3:14 PM|
Being old and lonely, but make it fun and wacky!
|by Anonymous||reply 118||November 25, 2022 3:16 PM|
Maybe if this turns into a dumpster fire of a show ...the powers that be will stop with the reboots.
By the way Green Acres was itself a reboot of Granbyś Green Acres a radio show that producer Jay Sommers worked on in the late 40s.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||November 25, 2022 3:37 PM|
What will the reboot about? Fraser struggling with Liberal Cancel Culture? Hard pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||November 25, 2022 4:14 PM|
What I want to know - and frankly worries me deeply - is if in twenty years time we're going to be watching reboots of the reboots.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||November 25, 2022 7:47 PM|
Speak for yourself, R110.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||November 25, 2022 7:59 PM|
It's Paramount+ - can't they just have Frasier do a tie-in with Yellowstone? Maybe he'll be the psychiatrist to one of the family members who has separated from the clan and is living in the Witness Protection Program... hilarity ensues.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||November 25, 2022 8:17 PM|
They should do a weekly retrospective and give commentary on each episode, cuz you know they got stories. like a podcast but on network tv
|by Anonymous||reply 124||November 25, 2022 8:29 PM|
I’m gonna need some epic callbacks. How about, hell’s bells, Maris happens to move in next door to Frasier? The only person I can ever imagine playing her and not being a disappointment would be Tilda Swinton.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||November 25, 2022 8:33 PM|
I think Frasier and Lilith should have a practice in Miami and live in Blanche's house with Freddy and Bebe.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||November 25, 2022 8:51 PM|
Of course we're going to be force fed all their awful grown children.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||November 25, 2022 11:19 PM|
Taxi, Cheers, and Frasier all had a wonderful Jimmy Burrows / ensemble vibe that stretched from the late 1970s into the 1990s. Jimmy directed 75 episodes of Taxi and 237 episodes of Cheers (almost all of them). He directed only 32 episodes of Frasier, mostly in the first and second season, and you can see how his work shaped and defined the characters. He stopped directing Frasier after the fourth season and moved on to Will & Grace.
I think it will be impossible for Kelsey Grammer to capture this vibe again.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||November 26, 2022 4:26 PM|
I think they should really jump the shark and make Frasier an accidental tik tok star and he's forced to constantly do dumb challenges and dances to keep his like count up.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||November 26, 2022 4:46 PM|
Can’t wait can’t wait
|by Anonymous||reply 130||November 27, 2022 10:30 AM|
Daphne needs to be killed off, Niles needs to fall in love with a man played by Stanley Tucci
|by Anonymous||reply 131||December 5, 2022 1:40 AM|
I am SO. FUCKING. SICK. of Stanley playing gay guys...or rather, replaying his part from Devil Wears Prada.
He did it again in Burlesque opposite Cher and it was tired there too. BIG NO to Tucci. I'm sorry but he can retire anytime now.
They need to kill this in the crib. Honestly, I don't see how it could be good. They'd have to luck into finding amazing writers and amazing young actors to play the young characters, and even then, Kelsey would probably be a total ham and stink up the joint.
I love Daphne and Niles together so just leave them be. I don't think that just because David is gay in real life we need to rewrite Niles to be. Didn't you guys learn anything from And Just Like That?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||December 5, 2022 6:41 AM|
^ Kelsey Grammer has many (MANY) flaws but his acting as Frasier Crane was one one of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||December 6, 2022 10:34 AM|
Indeed. Daphne’s exit is overdue.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||December 6, 2022 10:47 AM|
If Reichen Lehmkuhl makes a return appearance as a coffee shop waiter, I'm there!
|by Anonymous||reply 135||December 6, 2022 1:07 PM|
[quote] I think it will be impossible for Joe Keenan to capture this vibe again.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||December 6, 2022 1:18 PM|