Denmark’s Prince Nikolai ‘shocked, confused’ to be stripped of royal title by Queen Margrethe

If she was my grandmother I'd tear her a new asshole. If he's ever asked to do anything official, I hope he tells her to fuck off.

Seems rather mean to STRIP them of their titles. Better to make a new rule going forward.

Guess he'll have to make it on looks alone. Good luck hun!

This is why.

I don't think that Prince Charlotte or Prince Louis should have been given those titles either. It just sets them up for a lifetime of disappointment.

They are just being given those titles now because they are little, it makes for cute photo ops and it helps to make the family more marketable in the short-term.

But it leads these kids to grow up thinking they are important members of the royal family. Their identity is then shaken when they ultimately get pushed aside as adults and downgraded to background figures at the most. Their own kids then don't matter at all.

Great decision.

Every member of all the royal families used to have very onerous obligations to the state on their personal and professional lives--in the sense that they had no personal or professional lives of their own.

We don't live in that world anymore. In the Harry generation, they don't do anything for the state; they use their titles to make a buck, even though they are already incredibly wealthy. It's embarrassing to the country.

I'm being downgraded to a Count!!

Ffs. These kids will never have to work a day in their lives. KC3 is taking notes.

R5 I think you're ignoring the larger issue in that it's not ethical to have a royal family, at all. People being forced to live a public life and do a particular job, whether they like kit or not. People sugar coat it by saying they'll live a life of luxury, but it's not good enough.

Finally onto the other nation's royals.

The Danish set get way too much of a pass because the social 'progressivism' associated with the nation but the family itself has been very conservative minded and image conscious. And this leading to a stereotypical and antiquated classism where it's less progressivism than being dismissive of the plebs that rut around in the mud like hogs in heat.

Hence, more than a few fictious lgbt royal series and films loosely based on said family and their suggested disapproval.

Nobody is "forced" to work (Harry!) if they believe it is 'unethical to work for the government.

I think it was a bad move for those kids. If she wanted to change the rules, she should have done it going forward, with Frederick's kids. To remove their titles after they were basically all adults was really unkind and improper. Yes, I think royalty is ridiculous, but so is mind-fucking. She should admit she made an error, and reverse her decision

The queen doesn't make errors.

R8, you completely discount the idea that a) there's a family culture they grow up in and b) there is true meaning and satisfaction to be drawn from the opportunity to do what they do. There's two parts to royal and family.

Further, it's all getting flexible... Anne and her husband didn't take a title for their children, Edward and Sophie took aristocratic titles but are plainly destining them for conventional work. Officially HRH the Duchess of Kent, she taught music at a state school for thirteen years, known only as Mrs. Kent. The Earl of St. Andrews, heir to the Duke of Kent, is 41st in line and was in the diplomatic corps and is now chancellor of a university. His son, Lord Downpartrick, great-great-grandson of a king, worked at JP Morgan and now fronts a clothing line. Lady Sarah Chatto is an artist. The Earl of Ulster, heir to the Duke of Gloucester, served in the army for years and now works in a non-profit. The further down the line you are the less visible you need to be. The mistake is raising them like old school royalty which was what happened in the 60s and 70s due the Queen's natural conservatism and her mother's Edwardian influence. Their youths had been shaped when royalty was divine business and the whole lot was entitled to something.

This is just the Sussexes pulling and Andrew and clinging to a model that hasn't worked since Queen Mary's day. It does make sense to create space between working members of the royal family and members of the royal family... it provides privacy, choice and freedom for those who are not being called to serve and reflects the place of monarchy in the modern world. And if serving is too much, there's always abdication.

Apparently, she felt that they should not be saddled with them and limited to performing only royal duties. These are the grandchildren BTW, not her children. The parents of these children have really flipped out over it.

I think the Glucksbergs are the new Windsors.

Queen Margrethe is 82 years old and is now the longest-reigning monarch. I don't think she'll change her mind. I give her credit for having the balls to do that. Yes, I think the modeling (Nikolai) had something to do with it.

Here's Nikolai's Instagram page. Every single photo has his face in it. He's in love with himself.

Oh, the humanity!

R16 that’s a fan page, not his.

R18, sorry, you're right. I should have noticed that it was a fan page.

Agree, R5. The more I see how the system works, the more I realize how fucked up it is. The kids of monarchs get titles, publicity, perks etc... but only one really matters. When that one comes to power, the cycle with the offspring repeats to only one mattering in adulthood. The others discarded are then regulated to mockery, back rows, forgotten about essentially. Also the heir gets to wield all this power and get$ everything all because they are first born!? It really sets these people up to what we’ve seen. As far as this story, the Queen is absolutely right, but I think she should’ve done it moving forward with the next generation.

Mean queen. She’s now on my death watch list.

I volunteer to comfort him!

[quote]Here's Nikolai's Instagram page. Every single photo has his face in it. He's in love with himself.

Fan page or not, on Instragram? I can't believe it.

Actually, R23, that was one of several fan pages. I guess you can't stop what fans are doing.

The king of Sweden slimmed down the monarchy a few years back and removed the titles of his grandchildren though Princess Madeline and Prince Carl Philip and no one complained to the press. Which way did he do it that the Queen of Denmark did not do it? She seems to have messed up as to how she did it--she should have let them know and given them time to get used to it before she announced it to the press.

My guess is that the grandchildren of the King of Sweden are much younger, so they wouldn’t know the difference. It’s strange the Prince in Denmark is complaining directly to the press about it.

I had a dream about the king of sweden, he gave me things that I was needin', a palace home built of gold and steel, a diamond car with platinum wheels.

The Queen of D informed them in May of her decision, so we are seeing the predictable tantrums about it.

R1, why would Nikolai ever be asked to do anything official? That was never going to happen, especially after he did his modelling stuff.

OP, there's a mistake in your subject. It should be "Denmark's Nikolai, Count of Monpezat ...".

The thing is stripping titles is like a demotion. Or that the titles were given in mistake. She could have made the change about future generations receiving titles without causing all the hurt feelings. Of course, she might actually want to hurt their feelings.

You simply KNOW that Margarethe looked on in horror at the Sussex nightmare and the VERY minute she realised her grandchildren were famewhores looking to cash in on their titles while being raised outside of Denmark, said "Ingen Måde" to the whole thing.

are the 3 grandsons all gay or something?

Perhaps if he presents hole his mom might change her mind.

She's taking the titles away from the kids who have any chance of being king or queen. Look at Princess Anne's kids and how successful they have become without having a title.

As I understand it, they do fuck all for the Royal Family, so why should they have titles?

Even the British RF seem to be doing away with titles for distant heirs - e.g. Princess Anne's children never had titles, nor have her grandchildren. There's no real need for titles unless you're a child of a direct descendant - ie I'd expect William's children to keep their titles, plus any grandchildren, etc. However, I don't see why the York girls need to be Princesses.

Removing the titles allows them to progress their lives as private citizens, free from the expectations associated with said titles.

Don't worry, beautiful Nikolai, you will always be The prince of people's hearts.

his brother Felix is cuter.

[quote]are the 3 grandsons all gay or something?

Nah, these boys are pussyhounds. There are many pretty and fragile looking boys particularly from middle and higher classes who might not look very masculine to you, but who are strictly into pussy. While there are masculine and rough gay guys from working class.

[quote]I don't think that Prince Charlotte or Prince Louis should have been given those titles either. It just sets them up for a lifetime of disappointment.

There is a big difference between Nikolai and Charlotte and Louis. Nikolai is the son of the second son while Charlotte and Louis are children of the heir to the throne.

If, and that's a huge IF, you want to have working royals, giving HRH (or HH) and/or prince should be limited to the direct heirs. So, all of the children - for the British, Ann, Charles, Andrew, Edward - get the HRH title, but only Charles's children get the title after that. Nikolai (and Eugenie and Beatrice) shouldn't have gotten titles, but now that they have them, it seems silly to strip them of a title they've had for over 20 years.

He's still the Prince of Pussay if R39 is correct.

The royal writer Hugo Vickers is promoting his new biography of the Duke of Kent (written with him) and raises the point the point the monarchy better not get too slim. The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh had 2,000 patronages between them. So that's 2,000 organizations now looking for a royal connection again.

One of the monarchy's strengths is the stuff you don't see... the smaller meetings and engagements as opposed to the big walk about occasions. That takes arms and legs. It seems to me pretty evident the core we now know now: King and Queen, Wales, Anne, Edward and Sophie are it. In future, William would need his three children working.

The timing is interesting; it's like she came home from QEII's funeral & decided she'd better get her house in order and not expect the next generation to handle it. For everyone to have reacted they way they did, you get the sense she's been displeased with them for a while & she finally decided to cut them loose

Seems to me the best way to simplify a monarchy and titles is to let them expire with the death of the holder and retain them (if desired) for the principle heirs. And only direct heirs to the titles of Queen or king be created at birth.

That’s how I’d handle it in the UK. Am I hired?

I'm sure it's quite a shock when you've based your whole identity around something you thought was your birthright and would last forever. Hope he enjoys it while it lasts. Thoughts and prayers to him.

R44, it makes sense. You're basically proposing the life peerage model, but for members of the royal family.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law.

^^^^Wrong thread

R24 its pr dimwit

If she did this without even discussing it with those involved first, well that's just sneaky.

I didn’t pick up on it initially, but this move is even nastier than I initially thought:

The 3 former princes will have to share a title with their father! Furthermore, the title has no historical significance in Denmark and it was only created in 2008.

It’s almost like, “Here, the 4 of you can share this meaningless title.”

Oh, and one reason my sympathy for the princes and princess is limited:

They don’t perform any official royal duties on behalf of The Queen, and they don’t even live in Denmark. Why should the Danish government facilitate their ability to be work shy Eurotrash?

They're following theBritish aristocracy's model of the strict entail...bit modified though.

Smart on the Queen's part.

It's the younger siblings who cause the big headaches:

Princess Margaret

Prince Andrew

Mr. Harry Mountbatten-Windsor

The younger brother of the Belgian king.

The father, sister, and brother-in-law of that tall drink of water in Spain.

Educate them, prepare them for life, and let them find jobs!!

[quote]Denmark’s Prince Nikolai ‘shocked, confused’ to be stripped of royal title by Queen Margrethe

Really?

Wait until she shoves that dildo up your unlubed bussy!

Queen Margrethe is the most unroyal looking Queen I've ever seen. When she's not glammed up in her Royal drag she looks like an old Waffle House waitress.

^ Not to mention her ugly yellow teefs!

R51, the title was created for Frederick and Joachim's father, the late, lamented Henrik, and is based on his family name. Frederick and Joachim were already both Counts of Monpezat. So, it's directly relevant to Joachim and his sons.

[quote]On 30 April 2008, shortly before the wedding of his younger son, Prince Joachim, to Marie Cavallier, the Queen conferred the new Danish title "Count of Monpezat" (Danish: Greve af Monpezat) on both of her sons and made it hereditary for their male-line descendants, both male and female.[17] The Queen's private secretary Henning Fode commented, "The Queen and the Prince Consort have considered this for quite some time, and it has led to the belief that it was the right thing to do."[17] In fact, Henrik had mentioned this possibility as far back as 1996 in his published memoir: "During our generation, the future sovereign will perhaps receive approval to see 'Monpezat' added to the dynastic name of 'Oldenburg-Glücksburg'".[18] While being interviewed by the French weekly Point de Vue in October 2005, Henrik raised the issue shortly after the birth of Crown Prince Frederik's first son, Prince Christian, who is expected to inherit the Danish crown one day: "It also makes him very proud and happy that Monpezat will be added to this small grandson's future name as Prince of Denmark. 'It is a great joy for me that his French roots will also be remembered.'"[19]

^ She tired of Henrik's big German schwanz

Henrik was French

Well his dick was German.

R43 makes the most sense to me. I don't know how close she was to the British RF, but if she keeps her own counsel, she could have learned other things during her visit that made her think she shouldn't wait. I agree generally with those who thought the title should just not go to the next generation except the heir's children rather than be removed, but we don't know everything that she knew in making her decision.

R32 did this Queen use her grandchildren to prop up her own image when they were young and cute like the BRF did with Harry? This is a form of "work" for the royal family that these kids do.

Royal families can't have it both ways. They can't plaster the images of these people as cute little kids all over the place but then cast them aside when they are older and no longer useful as props to bolster the family's image.

Wrong, r30. OP's title is correct, as the change doesn't go into effect until next year.

"Nikolai, along with his brothers Felix, 20, Henrik, 13, and younger sister Athena, 10 will be referred to as either “His Excellency Count of Monpezat” or “Her Excellency Countess of Monpezat” starting on January 1, 2023."

I wonder how this will affect his modeling career and ability to get some action. What about Roger Clinton, Billy Carter and Sammy Obama? What would our titles be? Queen of the Bronx? The Duke of Long Island? Count of the MAGAs? King of Peoria? Princess of the Everglades?

[quote] Royal families can't have it both ways. They can't plaster the images of these people as cute little kids all over the place but then cast them aside when they are older and no longer useful as props to bolster the family's image.

Of course we can.

Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do?

[quote] Even the British RF seem to be doing away with titles for distant heirs - e.g. Princess Anne's children never had titles, nor have her grandchildren. There's no real need for titles unless you're a child of a direct descendant - ie I'd expect William's children to keep their titles, plus any grandchildren, etc. However, I don't see why the York girls need to be Princesses.

By the logic your using, why shouldn’t the Yorks have titles. They were grandchildren of the Queen, their father was 2nd in line for a time. If the don’t get titles, then neither should William’s grandchildren. If they were really streamlining, the only one of his kids who should have a title is George. Let the other ones grow up knowing that they will be required to have proper careers. The BRF seem to never learn from past history.

He was shilling for a hotel chain and made tacky commercials.

Ho ruined it for erryone!

Yo yo yo I’m the Count of 2008

I bet he feels dumb

Why does the Queen care if they have titles or not? If the idea is to "streamline" and cut expenses, then fine, don't let them have any royal funds or responsibilities, but so what if they keep their titles?

[quote] [R5] I think you're ignoring the larger issue in that it's not ethical to have a royal family, at all. People being forced to live a public life and do a particular job, whether they like kit or not. People sugar coat it by saying they'll live a life of luxury, but it's not good enough.

The larger issue is the monarchy. No one is divinely ordained to rule others.

Because profiting off of them is a bad look r70.

Oh the arrogance of titled rich people , dont take my meaningless title you mean ild nasty grandmother you. Paaaathetic

None of these people rule anyone.

It's a ceremonial role.

Good heavens, this troll obsessed with the notion that the monarchy is profiting from their own children seems to be one step from Qanon.

Um, try again, R75. Not who you referenced but if you read carefully the point is the titled are profiting off those titles, potentially causing awkwardness for the monarchy. Like if you went on tv and squatted in an open air market, drinking from a baby bottle.

Queen Margrethe your teeth are yellow...like a crooked row of pencils.

probably nicotine stained teeth

Given that she's been a chainsmoker most of her life, how this old battle-axe doesn't have COPD or didn't end up seriously ill after two COVID infections boggles my mind.

I say keep lots of princes and princesses in the 21st century. Just think of elite schools. If they aren't sprinkled with princes and princesses then the glamour quotient falls. And who wants to attend elite schools if they are de-glamoured? Children of billionaires and heads of state can only pull so much weight.

I think it's hilarious she's a chimney. So unrepentantly old school. I'm the fucking Queen and I'm gonna a smoke. Right. Here.

^ have a smoke, I type faster than I think. Which admittedly may not be an excuse.

He's a whore and Granny knows!

R79, very hardy genes.

wonder if he's gay or bi? is he a top?🤔

Straight R85.

"For the past six months, Prince Nikolai of Denmark has been on a study stay in Paris with his girlfriend, Benedikte Thoustrup. "

I'd strip him of more than his title

If anything, Danish taxpayers should be shocked, saddened, offended, and confused about why they should financially support French ex-pats. I’ll give the youngest children a pass, but even Harry served in the military and sought a governor-general position in a Commonwealth country before he fucked off to the US. What have the former princes done to imply they care about Denmark?

Joining the Danish military or living in Aarhaus represent the bare minimum they could’ve done to throw the little people some crumbs.

R25 Maybe because he was smart enough to talk to them first.

Queen Margrethe acted like a bitch not saying them a thing and expecting they to shut up

I'm with R1. Chainsmoking old witch.

Come sit by me, honey.

The trauma of the privileged elite is never ending.

r86, "For the past six months, Prince Nikolai of Denmark has been on a study stay in Paris with his girlfriend, Benedikte Thoustrup. "... and???? my question still stands: is he gay or bi?🤔

He shoukd start an onlyfans to stick it to that old broad.

It sucks to be Nikolai.