What’s the tea on NYC?

The crime blotter troll is not welcome here. I’m not interested in crime or NYPost slander pieces.

I want to know where the people are now. What’s hot, what’s not.

Horse Meat is always an incredible evening. Great music and all the best people. Breaks off into some wild after-afters.

The “hot” new places?

The Nines

Zero Bond

Temple Bar

Casa Cipriani

Le Dive

And basically anywhere else you may see Eric Adams.

The hot places are wherever De-Facto is not.

Or YMF.

Google is your friend OP

R6 Google sucks for this kind of thing. Only the people that live there know.

NYC threads have been some of the best info threads over the years. We need an updated one

well while you're waiting for NY to respond it couldn't hurt.

and here's the tea on tea OP

Grammarly is your friend OP

'Where are a couple of years out from the worst of the pandemic so what are the hot new neighborhoods?"

Though it started out as the epicenter of the pandemic in the US, New York State’s Covid infection and death rates are now comfortably well behind those of California, Florida and Texas. I’d still make sure I got the new booster as well as the Monkeypox shot and bring along some N95 masks to wear in crowded situations, but you should do that wherever you are.

Early to bed early to rise . . .

Bump

Come on people

Do Americans still use this site?

Wtf?

OP Talking to myself and feeling old

I’m too old to have much tea OP - but I’m noticing the young people from work seem desperate to live in the east village.

I’m not sure whether young NYC gays come on here much. I’m 43 and feel ancient when someone asks what’s cool or hip in the city. My mine just goes blank.

MARY!!!

This is pathetic. We can’t even get a nyc thread going

In terms of gay bars the popular new spots these days are The Q, Hush, The Eagle(which has a new dancefloor and Playhouse.

In terms of gay parties r2 already mentioned Horsemeat Disco which sells out fast. There is also Battle Hymn, Harder, Wrecked as some of my favorites. Notably pretty much all the cool parties take place in Brooklyn (or southern Queens across from Brooklyn).

Also 3 Dollar Bill in Brooklyn is a newish gay owned event space, a lot of stuff takes places there these days.

Finally so good tea. Thanks. Keep it coming.

*some

Thank you R20/R21.

Lifestyle changes

It's definitely true that since Covid stuff isn't open as late as they used to be r25. Finding sit down restaurants open late at NY used very normal, now if you want dinner at 11pm the options outside of bodega type stuff is more limited.

^ PJ Clark's on the Eastside at 3rd and 55th used to have people spilling out onto the sidewalk till 3am and now closes at 11pm.

R26 that’s why everyone’s moving to Miami. Or heck even Nashville.

DLers have been complaining about the suburbanization of NYC for years well now it’s fully happened.

R26 its far from the 24/7 city that never sleeps that it used to be, and many venues can't get workers.

Cafeteria closes early now. No longer 24/7. Just heard.

Keep the tea pouring.

R20, You post sounds exactly like something Stephan would say...lol

It’s also so much more expensive now. Rents, food basics, and a lot of the cheap places to eat and hang out have either closed or had to jack up prices.

“had to jack up prices.” Carful now. A lot of businesses are making record profits. Which means they raised prices more than necessary.

restaurants, clubs and bars in NYC are raising prices to keep up with the rising cost of rents, food, Con Ed, alcohol and staff salaries.

R33 well it’s the greedy landlords who are playing games - most of the time.

R33 maybe they can afford to buy a vowel now. Ask them for a loan.

Keep it coming. Haven’t heard much about the big Apple lately.

Where do you go to find out what’s going on on a specific night now that HX and NEXT have shuttered?

🥱🥱🥱

I'm told the city is incredibly young as never before. All the above 30s left during the pandemic.

OP, if you’re drunk in Midtown doing cheap coke off your laundry card, I have just the place for you. New York’s hottest club is DOUUUCHE. Inspired by true events, this former CVS, which became a Chase Bank and then became a CVS again, has a familiar yet troubling feel, like when Larry King would play himself in a movie. This place has everything: desk sets, key fobs, kale chips, Roman J. Israel, Esquire. Plus, you can play everyone’s favorite party game, The Stranger. Do you know that Billy Joel song “The Stranger?” Well, it’s when you sit on Billy Joel’s hand until it’s numb, and then you rub yourself with it. So you can pretend it’s Bruce Springsteen’s hand.

[Quote]I'm told the city is incredibly young as never before. All the above 30s left during the pandemic.

Only in the EV where most of the nightlife is. Otherwise, the rest of the city looks like a senior center even the area near NYU. The West Village east of 6th has many straight couples with kids.

That ^ sounds about right. Friend who told me R40 lives in the EV.

East Village nightlife is very young, but NY in general is not. Go to the gay bars in Hells Kitchen and the most common demographic is late 20s/early 30s.

Thotyssey is a good guideline to what is going on at the various gay bars r38.

Though I am more partial to the TechnoQueers listserve as those type of EDM parties are more my favorite scene if I want a night out.

[Quote]I'm told the city is incredibly young as never before. All the above 30s left during the pandemic.

wrong on both counts I would say. Who's your source?

Keep it coming

I think it’s really pathetic that we can get a nyc thread going. It speaks to something.

*can’t

Does nobody live there anymore?

What’s new in the city?

Anything?

How about that fact that you can now see the train times before you go into the subway. Both on the provided screens and Google maps.

That’s pretty cool.

The city seems dirtier than ever. It needs to be cleaned from top to bottom. The subways are the most filthy they’ve been since the 70s.

There have been lots of cops in the subways. They kind of hide though but come out of nowhere the second they are needed. Other times they are purposely visible in the subways. This is recent.

Post-Covid glamor is still slight. But it’s coming back. People are on edge but mostly benign unless you aggravate them. That’s when you see the edge to everyone. Even for New York.

I wish someone would pour some hot boiling tea all over OP with that tea shit !

It’s hard to appreciate the pops of murals and other attempts to make the city visually interesting through all the soot and grime that covers the city now.

The locals don’t notice the trashier surroundings. If you made it through Covid and stayed, you got used to it.

If you left and came back you see the difference.

The thing about Bloomberg is that you could feel that someone was running the city. Like it or not. Someone was in charge. There was an agenda.

There is no such feeling now. There is a feeling of no one at the wheel, and every space is going in their own direction and the landlords run the show. Anything goes again. They have the upper hand and know it. No more daily sweeping of the lobby. It’s once a week at best.

I don’t see the uptick in crime but the crazies are a bit more crazy and the air is thicker with fear than per usual. People have been spooked by the viral videos but do you really see that daily? Depends who you ask but I don’t.

I would say it’s a bit like regular NYC but right after 9-11. Post traumatic.

But someone needs to take the wheel. The pandemic is over it I hate to see the city blowing so aimlessly in the wind.

You can also feel the finiteness that social media and technology have brought to the city. It’s a bit jarring because this is the city that anyone could be anonymous. But it feels smaller now.

Be careful and avoid buying deli meats and cheeses in delicatessens (sp). There's been an outbreak of listeria in NYC, NJ and surrounding areas. One man died and a pregnant woman lost her baby.

The boys are hot though and it seems like the ration of beautiful people is unlike anywhere else in the Us. The diversity of types and choices of men are unlike La or Miami. Where do these guys come from? Who knows but they keep coming.

It's been linked to the deli food..^^

In some ways you can still see the old Ny. Especially during the recent marathon. The city was/is getting back to it’s pretty Covid ways. Slowly but surely. But it’s happening on its own. Naturally and not from a central place. That place always seems to be playing catch up. A dollar short and a day late. Never out in front.

I took r20’s advice and went to Hush last week. Omg most epic night!! They pack a lot of fun in there and the vibe is so “fun” everyone was in a good mood.

I want to add one for those uptown who like Karaoke dive bar type places is Suite on karaoke nights. They have some good singers in there a few must have been trained types. Really small and divey but had a blast. Somewhere around 108/Broadway.

NYC sucks ass. And not in the preferred method

Well since this thread bombed somebody so one on LA. Some people haven’t been there since covid (me!) so would be interesting.

It’s sad to see a lot of places still using covid as an excuse for something.

I’m not sure I’d elderly people are still at a heighten risk but other than old or sick people this is no longer a valid excuse in my book. It’s a cover for something worse at this point.

Hochul wants to build a casino in Times Square. Get your Chippendale's tickets early!

If that ever happens it will be 5 years away.

Honey, like myself, most of the NYers here are more worried about breaking a hip than being hip. Still, I've lived here on and off since 1980 and full time for the past 25 years and IMHO it's never been better, every day I see improvements; the bike lanes, the parks have all been refurbished, 8th ave got paved and has parking lanes and bike lanes, I didn't even recognize it. Subway times are no longer a mystery, you can walk in to any smoke shop and buy a "roll-up" from 8-30 dollars depending on the weed and smoke it in front of a cop or anywhere else. None of those fancy schmancy dispensaries in all the other places. "Here's 10 dollars, give a joint" done in a NY second. Have I mentioned the men and the outdoor sex happening? Every neighborhood has its own type of hot guy. I'm too old but it's still nice to see every time I walk down any street. It's never boring.

Is this OP for real? He sounds like Stefon. If he’s real, it’s pathetic if he’s over 35

I'm based in Manhattan (and have had my midtown apt since 2007). I also travel 90% of the time all over the USA (why? Because I can).

Austin - Nashville - Charlotte

Are the 3 hottest cities right now in that order.

Never heard of it.

Are you saying Nashville is hotter than NYC right now?

By the way that is not real marijuana, gramps. It’s HHC, delta 9 and cbd being sold to tourists and suckers as real weed. It wouldn’t be $20 an 8th if it was real.

You have to either have a underground number or take a bus to the NJ dispensaries. Please heed this warning, that bodega and storefront weed in nyc is unregulated, full of toxic chemicals and is 100% synthetic and or cbd/delta/HHC also they throw in all kids of extra crap like fentanyl and perfumes.

The legit storefronts don’t open until May (unless you have a weed rx card). The trucks too. All that weed is fake. It’s not legal to sell weed yet. Just to posses it.

R68 the party doesn’t start until 35 in the larger cities like the ones you see on tv your hamlet.

Take a look at a photo of NYC 10 years ago and it looks so sparkling clean to what it does now. Natives don’t notice the filth anymore I’ve noticed. It’s creeped in everywhere.

r69 Surely you mean only in the global warming sense, right?

Everything needs to be pressure washed from top to bottom with soap and chemicals. Especially the subways. Do it now before there’s another decade of grime to deal with.

I can’t believe the let the city get so dirty and runed down and some blocks look like Rio.

And the town can use a little paint.

Everything is pretty much back to normal for most part with a few niggles here and there.

Streets are crowded, traffic is terrible, subways are full to packed, and so forth.

Office employers have been ordering more people back full time or otherwise curtailing WFH, though things aren't 100%

That being said there was a fundamental shift in many areas and things just won't go back to way they were before covid.

Restaurants and bars are still closing (Green Kitchen on Second Avenue on UES did so a few months ago), due to a combination of factors.

First and foremost many bars, restaurants, clubs and so on lost too much of their customer base and those numbers aren't changing. This is also true for many service or retail businesses as well.

Low wage places (minimum wage in NYC is $15/hr.) such as restaurants, bars, retail, etc... cannot find decent staff. Many people either left city and or have found other employment. Paying more isn't an option as there are natural limits as to high prices can be raised to cover.

R40 and R77 hit the nail on the head. I’m 33 and almost all of my friends moved during the pandemic. Some of my favorite restaurants closed, nothing is open nearly as late as it used to, the subways are not safe, there is insane traffic, etc- a lot of small inconveniences add up to a major difference.

It truly is amazing how nearly everything closes by 2AM. You have to try very hard to find a DR, RA, CVS or similar store open past that time much less 24/7.

Most restaurants are closed by 1AM if not earlier. Bars may not have closing time legally until 4AM, but many are near dead long before last call.

In other sad turn of events the "rich man/poor man" gap in NYC is right back where it was and growing.

Inflation, high housing costs and so on compared to not so great wage growth is squeezing all sorts of households in city. Pawn shops are busy and there is more competition digging through trash bags from supermarkets and shops....

Anyone who won't let up about "getting the tea" and "some good tea" and "what's the tea" blah blah blah, is going to be an invisible wallflower at the hottest and trendiest events and places in New York City.

Some bars and restaurants are not even open on Mondays

Many bars long were closed on Monday. This was before pandemic, the day just isn't often very busy.

Exceptions often were working class or local dive joints that did a decent enough business when people got off work. Think guys like Archie Bunker and his local in Queens.

Many gay bars in city were open on Monday back in day because, well if you wanted to cruise or whatever there weren't many other options. Rise of internet and apps has done away with much of that need.

The only busy places are downtown

For night owls A 200-Seat Dim Sum Parlor That Stays Open Until 4 A.M. Is Opening in Chinatown

What is considered downtown these days r83?

Would like to hear more from r69.

The tea is NYC let its hatred of Trump get in the way of positive, necessary change. They had the chance to elect a smart, decent man as Governor but instead some idiots there decided to formally elect the criminal loving bitch governor.

The tea is we only dealin' wit a perception uh crime.

R85 The East Village and the LES below Houston have the liveliest nightlife particularly on weekends.

I ride the subway several times a week and am in midtown four times a week. Everything seems quite normal. Masks are pretty much gone and, yes, there are crazy people roaming around being destructive but that’s always been the case in the NYC I’ve lived in my entire life. Life goes on. Just be careful and be aware of your surroundings and you’ll be fine.

R90 Here you go!

[Quote]The tea is NYC let its hatred of Trump get in the way of positive, necessary change. They had the chance to elect a smart, decent man as Governor but instead some idiots there decided to formally elect the criminal loving bitch governor.

Long Island went very Republican. Perhaps due to crimes related to gang activity. In Manhattan the Upper East Side had the heaviest concentration of votes for Lee Zeldin.

Kathy vs Lee

R93, wow, I didn't know that. I know that according to stats, the crime rate really went up UES.

But yet the rents are still too high!

I visit midtown a lot and I see a lot of homeless and some people shooting up as well. The beggars are on every other corner...every where!

[Quote]I ride the subway several times a week and am in midtown four times a week. Everything seems quite normal. Masks are pretty much gone and, yes, there are crazy people roaming around being destructive but that’s always been the case in the NYC I’ve lived in my entire life. Life goes on. Just be careful and be aware of your surroundings and you’ll be fine.

Unfortunately, not everyone has the same attitude

"I just want to make it home safe, I don't want to get slashed in the face," said Julisa Posada.

New Yorkers say they have growing concerns every time they hear of subway crime, and they are at ease when they see officers and they want more of them

Lee Zeldin only carried South Brooklyn and Staten Island. Rest NYC was solidly Hochul.

As for Long Island, Westchester and other parts of NY not downstate for some time now there has been a migration of conservative/working class or whatever you want to call them out of Manhattan (except certain areas of Bronx, Queens, South Brooklyn and of course Staten Island.

Those not moving to New Jersey or otherwise out of state all together are going to LI and so on. In short certain suburbs of NYC are becoming more conservative while city itself leans ever more left/socialist.

You saw this in last election cycle as well when Long Island and some other parts of NYS went more red than people imagined.

Houchl and her supporters knew this and it's why she barely bothered with upstate (where she was and still is widely disliked), to concentrate on downstate, in particular NYC.

The best of the city (parties, restaurants, shopping) is now in Brooklyn, especially Williamsburg, Bushwick and Greenpoint.

The former governor on Hochul's victory. Is he bitter?

Andrew Cuomo 56th governor of New York from 2011 to 2021

"Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said New York Republican gubernatorial nominee Lee Zeldin’s strong, yet unsuccessful performance in Tuesday’s election is a “wake-up call” for Democrats."

Democrats and others are ticked off AC didn't spend much if any of his sizable war chest helping candidates.

People may say what they like, but Cuomo still is a force many democrats in NYS worry about. There are credible fears he may run again for governor and could possibly win.

Many NYS voters believe Andrew Cuomo was driven out of office to serve liberal, democrat, left progressives who were sick and tired of "King Cuomo". The don't believe those sexual harassment claims, and or if they did occur don't think AC should have been forced out of office.

Take down the "permanent" scaffolds. Some have been up for many years.

Besides scaffolding and dining sheds noise complaints are in the city that can't sleep

Time for noise ordinances to be enforced in all of NYC. This is going on in all the boroughs-music with bass so high it vibrates blocks away. Coming from restaurants, bars, vehicles and now speakers strapped to the back of scooters! This is another case where complaints have pretty much been ignored

I do like that NYC takes old, defunct piers, tracks....and make them into beautiful parks. It tries to inject some beautiful greenery and nature in the city.

BTW R104 what's the latest with the little park on the Hudson. Like the Vessel it arrived with great fanfare, but I haven't heard anything about it lately. Is it popular, does it attract visitors, and do you still need to make a reservation to go?

I don't know R105. I don't live in NYC...close enough to visit, though. Maybe someone in NY would know?

What are some good spots to see go-go boys and strippers?

A cleaner NY

The Monster Bar in Greenwich has a big gogo boy party every Thursday and Saturday r107.

Thank you, r109.

I don't know if there is a separate thread but someone or more than 1 person is targeting gays in NYC. 2 deaths, a bunch of robberies etc.

R111 that was 6 months ago. But good to be vigilant.

Maybe someone can speak to Adonis lounge. Never been there.

Pieces in the village hosts stripper shows too a step up from go go boys but only a few at a time there.

I kind of side eye noise complaints in Manhattan. What do you expect? In some of the boroughs I get it.

This website/circular is fun. It’s like a mini version of the defunct NEXT.

It’s not comprehensive though^

I get the feeling the city is on the verge of a new era. Not sure what that is going to look like. It’s a city that’s been stuck on the runway and due for a take off.

R108 is welcome news. I’m cautiously optimistic.

R113 Here you go

Here's hoping

Hoping what?

Oh

No new "T" : same old, same old...

No no no! Crime blotter troll is persona non grata in this thread. Not welcome.

🙏🙏🙏

Getting too cold soon. Everyone will be headed south soon like geese. And anyone who has relatives or a second home south of the Mason Dixon is suddenly popular again for the winter anyway.

Art Basel is around the corner, and the Palm beach scene will soon be in full swing.

Tea time.

^ Hot cocoa

How is the big Apple today?

Bell?

*well

WELL?

The news today is they reached a deal to build a new soccer stadium in Queens. The New York Football Club had been playing it games in either Yankee stadium or the soccer stadium in Harrison NJ.

Thats cool r133

I wonder if they regret running Amazon off. I sure wouldn’t. They have a bad reputation for being slave drivers. Who needs it.

amazon gonna be cutting 10k jobs.

what do people do there in Jan I’ve always wondered or Feb. doesn’t the weather kill the vibe? How do you “people watch” when everyone’s wearing a parka.

you go to a gym R137

New York City isn't Minneapolis r137, the winters don't get THAT cold.

That said like any place you see less people out and about in the streets when it gets cold. Though you go to gay parties and there will be a coat check for queens to drop off the outer layers and people will still be looking sexy.

Oh boy, a new soccer stadium!!!

I find Mayor Adams shockingly sexy.

R136, they can find work in the new casinos.

^ and the new stadium in Queens

Why spill the tea? Throw it.

Those phone kiosk things in Manhattan have a number pad. Does that mean you can use them as phones?

What’s the bathhouse scene like these days in detail please.

There used to be regular threads about which bookstores had the best action in the city but they stopped. I guess Covid was the end of that. The tea wa sizzling hot and current.

Anybody been to the Adonis club lately?

Can someone please expand on Brooklyn and how it has supposedly taken the edge from Manhattan. M What he parts of Brooklyn. Which blocks? Which establishments.

Any more info on:

3 dollar bill

The Rosemont

R145

Yes, those kiosks can function as phones. It is one reason why homeless and some others are camped out in front of same 24/7.

Cool.

Are the Adonis go-go boys available for "extracurricular" activities outside of the club?

3 Dollar Bill is an gay event venue r151. It varies from hosting dance parties, to plays, to drag shows, to sex parties. Have to check to calendar on the website to see what is coming up and buy tickets. I've had some very fun nights there, huge outdoor space they open up for some events in the summer.

Rosemont is gay club popular with young Brooklyn gays. It's not my scene personally, as a 30-something I am a little old and it's a small place with one bathroom that gets very crowded.

Other gay parties that happen in Brooklyn include Horse Meat Disco, Battle Hymn, Wrecked, Harder, Alegria, Papi Juice to name a few.

Is that little saloon that Anderson's trashy little bf opened up still around?

R154 yes but there seems to be a thin crowd there most of the time but it’s a small place. Not sure if they have busier nights, I’ve never been inside so not that knowledge but it’s still open.

Thanks r153. Good to know that 3DB is a venue and not a club per se.

I’ve noticed that in NYC clubs will advertise other clubs on their social media.

Is that because they share an owner? Would be a lot of shared ownership if so.

Maybe they do it as a courtesy? Maybe they swap? Anyway it’s a smart way to cross-promote to a likewise audience.

Which one r154? I know Anderson's guy has Eastern Bloc which closed, and Lovegun which closed.

Atlas Social Club in HK which I believe is Maisani's is still open.

What is a "New York minute?"

And where is the Drama Desk?

A "New York minute" is the time between foreplay and orgasm for men in NYC.

R153. You forgot the best bar, metropolitan.

There's a vote underway to rezone a ton of parking lots and empty mattress stores in Astoria Queens and turn them into highrises with several thousand units of affordable housing for the poor. AOC is of course fighting against it for whatever reasons that bitch wants to make up.

[Quote] Atlas Social Club in HK which I believe is Maisani's is still open.

It appears to be closed. If you attempt to go on their website, you will be redirected

157, they do it because these venues use party promoters for their promotions. Party promoters posts parties on IG/TikTok/etc and they hope from place to place.

They are open r163, I was just in there a month ago and if you go to their Instagram page they are actively posting.

Guess they decided there was no point in paying to host a website.

If you're partying in the East Village, you're <25. It's by NYU/Pace it's where the college kids live after landing in from Flyover not knowing NYC.

Bushwick, 3DB is the center of the action these days and it's a crowd of all ages & backgrounds. Don't know about Rosemont.

Metropolitan in BK is more dive bar ish than dance floor so if you don't like to dance that much maybe your scene. More low key.

House of Yes is over. Gentrified by straights. Sad.

Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan works, including the Q.

My only beef with The Q and 3DB is their tickets can be pricey for events sometimes....

and how was the Atlas Social Club R165?

What Anderson sees in a common saloon owner is beyond me. I wish Anderson would date someone of his own station. It's perfectly fine to screw around with the help, but setting up house with it is another matter altogether.

Drama at the Q.

And that Post upthread about the gays being roofied. Be careful y'all.

Didn't y'all do a thread on an owner in Chelsea?

I like Monster in GREENWICH Village across from Stonewall.

Bathouse is not a thing in NYC, try other cities in America.

There is not much to say about it r167. It's just a small place with a bar and some seating, nothing interesting about It other than the bartenders have been hot every time I've gone.

It's the type of place I might go to have a couple drinks to pregame where we are actually going. Though some nights I've walked by and that little place is packed with guys so some people must enjoy it.

The tea in NYC is exclusively BUBBLE.

Actually, the East Side Club is still open and from what I experienced on an early Monday morning around 2am in September it was far from dead. You need proof of COVID vaccination to get in and there was a variety of men there.

And the hetero swing club in the basement CheckMate also appeared to busy based on the number of couples I saw entering and leaving in the lobby they share with ESC which is 24/7.

They should also be checking for proof of the Monkeypox Vaccine at Eastside Club, no?

I've never been to East Side Club r173, but happy to hear there were guys there.

If I want to hook up there is The Cock and The Eagle. There used to be Paddles as a good after hours hook up spot but it has closed.

How is the cock these days?

[Quote]They should also be checking for proof of the Monkeypox Vaccine at Eastside Club, no?

Yes, they should R174 Do they check for Monkey Pox or COVID vaccinations at Dick, The Eagle . . .?

^ The Cock not dick

Description: This is a cruising and sex bar, pure and simple. While not as notoriously sleazy as its former Avenue A location, it's pretty damn close. Action is often unpredictable, but it tends to lean on the wilder side. Some may be put off by the "hole in the wall" atmosphere, but if you're horny and looking for on-the-spot action, few places compare.

I used to love G Lounge on 19th btwn 7th and 8th. It was THE place to see and be seen in Chelsea in the 00's. I had an enormous amount of fun there. I met my first and third bf's there. I met my second slumming at Gym Bar. Huge mistake, but that's a different story.

My former bff, a muscle bear, once had an orgy at the Eagle. I remember being so jealous. I'm not exactly butch, so most guys there would never give me the time of day. Still it was fun to cruise those hot guys who I could only dream about being with.

New York's hottest club is TRASH. After you step through the stainless steel door to this meat-packing hot spot, you'll be greeted by none other than Pierre, the Muslim Elvis Impersonator. This club has everything- clones, freaks, sneezing, a Russian man on a prepaid cell phone, and anyone can get in- there's no password. At the door just do the Cosby face.

Whatever you say Stefon...

Has anyone been to Rebar recently? I'm gonna be in the neighborhood this weekend, and thought I would stop in, but when I've been there earlier this year it felt like Sad Last Days.

Are there any good adult video stores still around? I'm in the mood for street trade.

There is an adult store of some sort on 8th and 27th, right across from FIT. Know know what sort of merchandise is carried, nor even if they are still open as has been before covid panic since was down that way.

If you're looking for videos in general per se, haven't seen such stores in ages around Manhattan.

Things are so good even the rats in NYC are shopping for designer luxury handbags.

How is Q doing since their "door policy" was exposed? Is it filled with Blatinos now?

What happened to that longtime bar on the Upper East Side that catered to old rich men?

Drag shows are everywhere.....on television. Are there any places now?

One upthread correction- gay bars were (are?) popular on Monday nights because for all gay theater workers, Monday was their Saturday night.

Oh and yes R88 that is a 100% accurate Eric Adams impression. If only he gave as much time and energy to the rest of the city as he did with that overblown HipHop Museum press conference.

The huge KING SPA in Brooklyn, on Fort Hamilton Parkway and 62nd street, just re-opened. The hour are 24/7!!!

The area voted nearly 2 to 1 for Zeldin, and is located between the heavily Hasidic area and the heavily Asian parts of Brooklyn. So we'll see how long it operates.

He is not shopping for videos, rose aka r186

I’m sure NYC was a dystopian hellscape during covid. I bet it was hell on earth.

Never been to Uncle Charlie’s or the TownHouse.

What am I missing?

How are the whores in Hells Kitchen, you ask?

I saw one of the top new guys on RM at 48th st during the warm weather streak a couple weeks ago. Yummm. He was wearing the shortest shorts and tank and was oozing sex.

What is to be known of King spa? Is it a bathhouse? Can someone else answer that.

I don’t trust tainted opinions by the right wing troll….the election is over and the deplorables have bigger problems than crime in nyc.

Leave that shit out of here. Read the fucking room.

OP You have over 70 posts here. What are you looking for specifically? Are you a New Yorker or planning to visit?

R187 The war of the rodents

seeing red

[quote]I don’t trust tainted opinions by the right wing troll….the election is over and the deplorables have bigger problems than crime in nyc. Leave that shit out of here. Read the fucking room.

That "right wing troll" is one of DL's most prolific trolls, r195. He was an authenticated poster, brandonjoseph. That account got Murieled. He also signs as FormerNewYorker or FNY. He has several accounts and has been known to post over 300 times in a single thread. Claims to be a gay man, living in Weehawken now. Ye shall know him by his crime blotter posts and back to back posts. The 3 posts above this one are his, for example.

Uses repetitive childish insults. One of his favorites, used in this thread, is "He who hesitates, masturbates". Block him and around 40 posts disappear.

Sorry I probably don't have the type of tea you are looking for, unless you are interested in the Hopper exhibit at The Whitney. It's pretty good, if you like that sort of thing. Apologies for the naked lady in the preview.

R196 I think I’ve been as specific as one could be. Nobody asked you to be here by the way. Nobody is begging to have you around.

Rebar is hit or miss really, even on coveted Thursday through Saturday nights.

Later does seem better than too early, but also you'll need a certain tolerance for fraus who often invade Rebar in good numbers.

Are all the bars empty or is it my imagination? Seems like there is one too many bars in HK. Although I bet they make a mint during pride.

Also, what do people do on Sunday nights? It seems like Sundays are totally dead with tumbleweeds blowing through the streets.

Some people are in NYC a lot but they don’t live there full time. They know a lot of stuff but need to be constantly updated so stay in the know because they don’t live there everyday.

That’s why the old NYC threads were so handy and they’ve just disappeared.

The Eagle generally pulls a good crowd on Sundays r202.

as mentioned already. downtown is where all the action is. I visited a friend who lives in midtown on a sunday and it was fucking dead. some bars closed at 6pm.

After midnight most of Manhattan is shuttered and empty

Where are we calling the line on “downtown” these days. Can be a huge variation on that.

"It seems like Sundays are totally dead with tumbleweeds blowing through the streets."

Historically Sundays were always slow, this goes back decades. People have to be at work or school on Monday, or have other things to get done before weekend is over.

Back in day yes, you did have Sunday "tea dances" where action happened a bit earlier. Monster was one of the first, but there were others such as Ice Palace 57...

We used to joke that Sunday tea events were to get rid of whatever trick you picked up on Saturday night, or last chance to find some action before weekend was over.

In any event again thanks to our friend Mr. Internet and is cousin Mr. App there is less need to go out on a Sunday looking for anything. Just let your fingers do the walking...

Downtown/Lower Manhattan is pretty universally below 14th Street r207. Neighborhoods like West Village, Greenwich Village, East Village/LES, SoHo etc Lower Manhattan is definitely considered more desirable, there is a reason West Village, Soho, Tribeca has the highest rents in the city.

How in terms of gay nightlife specifically there is still more going on in Hells Kitchen/Chelsea. But for straight people it's definitely all about lower Manhattan is the place to be on the island.

[quote]How is Q doing since their "door policy" was exposed? Is it filled with Blatinos now?

The whole controversy seemed to blow over pretty quickly, and The Q seems to be carrying on as normal. It remains one of the more popular gay spots in the city from what I can see r188.

HIV/Aids crisis of 1980's and 1990's saw a huge shift away from West Village as center of gay nightlife. First stop was Chelsea then things moved northward to Hell's Kitchen.

That being said there were various other forces at work.

First and foremost what began with SoHo spread down to Financial District to south and north to Tribeca and West Village. These areas went from industrial, manufacturing, working or middle class to high end/wealthy residential. That in turn pushed up rents for both residential and commercial spaces.

Owing to the piers and railroad much of West Village was working or middle class Irish or Italian well into 1970's. These were the people Jane Jacobs rallied to fight Robert Moses and his highway plans.

One by one things that made West Village sort of not desirable (piers, warehouses, industrial, etc..) began to vanish. Rest was helped along by the massive gentrification of Manhattan that started under mayor Rudy G and gained steam with Bloomberg's administration.

Feels like everything is earlier now in NYC.

To be fair there once were tons of gay bars, clubs, bookstores and whatever scattered over much of Manhattan. Combination of factors ranging from HIV/AIDS epidemic to gentrification and including rise of internet killed off a great number.

No one ever thought Splash would close, but yet it did.

and even before the pandemic Grindr and social media had an enormous impact on night life and hook ups. And post- COVID restaurants and bars can find workers. And back in the day Sundays at The Tunnel, Splash, Escuelita, X Ave Lounge, The Limelight . . . were hopping with among many others hairdressers and Broadway babies. Universal Grill in the Village had a popular Monday party and Tuesdays it was Beige in the EV and Jackie 60 in the meat packing district.

can't find workers ⬆️

Bulk of workers in restaurants or whatever were heavy on illegal immigrants. That lot has found plenty of other ways to make money, far more than working in kitchens and so on.

Since NY, NJ and other states have given illegals drivers licenses a good number have gone into business for themselves. On any given night about 7PM or so you see cars, SUV, vans arriving with PA, NJ and some NY plates hauling all sorts of cleaning supplies and machines. People have set themselves up in janitorial services haven't they? They do floor washing/buffing, and other work for all sorts of retail, restaurants and other establishments.

There is also driving for Lyft or Uber and other ways such as construction...

[quote] IMHO it's never been better

R67 an interesting assessment.

"The huge KING SPA in Brooklyn, on Fort Hamilton Parkway and 62nd street, just re-opened. The hour are 24/7!!!"

Never heard of it!!. Since when has it been around that it closed and reopened? Is it a bathhouse? Do you get a lot of Hasids and Asians there?

^ that was for r190

[quote] The thing about Bloomberg is that you could feel that someone was running the city.

I remember Bloomberg showed up at his press conference one time, shirt sleeves rolled up, hair out of place and said in answer to a wheedling reporter something like, "I'm busy, running this place doesn't leave me too much time to think about questions like yours. "

I liked him then and appreciated his work and honesty.

R218 It's a spa for men and women that offers massage services including Korean massage but it's not a bathhouse. There's action in sauna and steam sometimes. It's a chain and opened 24/7

R190 here. You can actually get a Chinese meal there nightly, they have a buffet....and I know this because many of the Hasidics who went then gave them low ratings because the food was not Kosher.

I cannot emphasize enough how Asian the neighborhood is, and they really are outside the border of the Hasidic neighborhood.

All of that being said, it got cruisey at night, because I live near it and I have had guys send me Grindr messages asking me to stop by and "meet up."

Also in regard to gay bars, back in the day in New York we seemingly overnight emerged from the aids crisis and NYC was so gloriously gay (not LGBTQ+, but GAY) that the Stonewall Bar site became a clothing shop and nobody gave a crap.

^ so even the faux Stonewall Bar that opened there as a tourist trap is gone now?

Stonewall Bar is still there r224. Popular for tourists I assume, I don't know any locals who hang out there.

The only place in Greenwich I frequent is Pieces occasionally for a drag show, not usual to see a famous face drop in for shows there. And The Monster can be fun depending on what's going on downstairs.

I know there is a new place there Playhouse, from the same owners of Pieces.

Video provided to The Post shows a man approaching the bar VERS in Hell’s Kitchen around 10 p.m. and chucking a brick at it

The three suspects, a man and two women, approached their 42-year-old victim and his 41-year-old female companion, who are both Asian, on the shuttle train from Grand Central Station to Times Square around 8 p.m. Saturday, police said.

The suspects ordered the victims to give up their seats, cops said. When that apparently didn’t happen, the suspects punched and kicked the male victim, leaving him with a small cut on his head, according to cops.

I’ve never like the Stonewall bar. Awkward smelly ugly and just weird. With zero history - as it is not even the same bar as the original but a 1990s weird design.

Pieces is fun - if again very 90s. But at least a good fun vibe.

Playhouse is ALL DRAG all the time - which I just don’t understand. Are they trying to PREVENT people from meeting/talking? If I wanted to go to a show/theater, there are a lot more talented performers. Why make a gay bar a theater? But they have good draft beer and it’s a nicely renovated space. But don’t expect to meet anyone - you are expected to come with a group, sit only with them and then give money to mediocre attention-craving drag performers.

After the Colorado shooting NY takes action

Stephanie Beacham was born and raised in Hertfordshire, England which is one of the home counties. Her normal speaking accent is a common form of RP spoken in that part of UK.

As a student at Royal Academy of Dramatic Art Ms. Beacham would have learned some form of RP as part of elocution and other training , same as others attending who attend RADA.

Ms. Beacham's mother was ill with chickenpox while waiting for her daughter to be born. Stephanie Beacham is partially deaf, having been born with no hearing in her right ear and 80% hearing in her left ear as a result.

Joan Collins attempting a Geordie accent.

R230 and R231 posted in wrong thread.

Disregard and carry on.

R137

It's been many years now since NYC has had really deep cold winters. Even from January through March we rarely get long stretches of temps at or below freezing along with wind chills and significant snow fall.

Yes, there are the odd cold periods for a several days or even a week, along with odd snow storm, but nothing like things were say in 1970's or before.

As for rest of your query action merely moves indoors. Bars, restaurants, performing arts events.. Unless temps reach at or below freezing plenty of people are out and about and there are many options for watching. Ice skating, people playing sports in parks, or just walking around.

In other news New Yorkers are tipping less apparently. That 20% number is being lowered, but places are raising prices.

Suspect arrested

-7 On Your Side Investigates has tracked at least 40 people who have been drugged and robbed at New York City bars over the last year, seven of those victims have died.

Ewwww

[quote]It seems like Sundays are totally dead with tumbleweeds blowing through the streets.

Q. What's fame like?

A. It's like old newspapers blowing down Bleeker Street.

- Jack Kerouac

That's not true R233

Last winter was somewhat mild.

The winter before had a whole lot of snow and cold.

Still a great place like no other.

The Eagle was was crazy busy last night, I tried to go by and the line was so long I didn't bother. All the gays left in town trying get wild.

www.tiktok.com/@whosjewdaddynyc/video/7169449619846647086

The eagle seems to be having a rebirth. That places has come close to death many times yet here it is.

R239

Compared to previous winter that of 2020-2021 may have seemed brutal. But that largely was only due to heavy snowfall totals in February.

More...

If you look at average daily temps for November 2020 through December and onto new year (2021) things were right about what we've been having now.

NYC hasn't had a white Christmas since 2009

Every time I see this thread title, I imagine some Flyoverstani Hisstopher with badly dyed hair, desperately wanting to be cool, asking his friends "what's the tea," and waiting anxiously to see if they acknowledge how hip he is by using this expression gleaned from Datalounge, RuPaul's Drag Race or both.

I heard COVID and monkey pox is going to make a resurgence in NYC due to holiday festivities, you people better get ready.

I'm terrified of monkey pox. I took the Holland Tunnel back from thanksgiving dinner in NJ yesterday on the way home to Westchester, and I stopped at a deli in Chelsea to get a water and protein bar. The customer in front of me in line, an obvious gay, had some weird marks on his hand. I didn't think anything of this at the moment, but when I exited the store and got outside, I suddenly thought, could that be mpox? Then I imagined my goods touching the same counter that his did, and the cashier handling my stuff after handling his. I froze. It became too much, so I threw the water and protein bar in the trash. Better safe than sorry.

I’m pretty sure Monkey pox has fizzled out.

What r249 said. Moneypox is not really a thing anymore, case numbers are (thankfully) incredibly low. Vaccines work, all the slutty gays got vaxxed.

Um..there is this radical thing, now easily available, called a monkeypox vaccine. Look for the mark on the forearm - you’ll be fine. You just have to…you know…make an effort.

So have all the vaxxed gay sluts resumed their whoring around? Did they ever stop?

Petiole saying that Charlotte is the new NYC need to explain themselves.

I’m hearing credible people saying this now. I have been to charlotte recently and it’s nothing like NYC.

If anything, it is turning into California. Not NYC.

Charlotte is not avant guard and it’s not influencing any culture or making waves outside of flashy corporate jobs and packages that will all be tossed out at the next recession.

*people saying

[Quote] Charlotte is not avant guard and it’s not influencing any culture or making waves outside of flashy corporate jobs and packages that will all be tossed out at the next recession.

and what about NYC? Is it the gay or cultural mecca it once was? and would you describe the current NYC as avant garde? Dish

NYC has indeed lost the edge but it’s still exponentially more influential and voluminous in terms of culture and activity.

And it’s just not comparable. There is nothing similar about the two. The are completely different and seem nothing alike.

There is a connection though I guess because they are on the same coast but that connection is people based and has nothing to do with having alike qualities.

It’s just crazy and wrong that this so becoming a meme. People want to seem in the know so they repeat this.

But if you really want to seem in the know, then you clarify that it’s ridiculous and just plain odd to compare the two.

Correct them and tell them that the Carolinas is the new California.

Now that fits a lot better. There are palm trees in charlotte for crying out loud.

Where do you see palm trees in NYC?

Anyway, back to nyc.

The new issue of Get Out is out.

Thanks r258!!! I am 58 and I have not seen one in 20 years - since they were free and in physical form. The magazines literally haven't changed much at all!

The pictures and the ads are identical!

Charlotte is a lot hipper than, say Atlanta, but the vibe is more Austin or LA than NYC

Wow! New York sure has some fugly gays.

R258

That cover reflects today's woke and inclusive gay media.

Next and HX for a start wouldn't have had any of them on cover I shouldn't wonder.

HX...

Young Colton Ford..

Fuck yeah!

As someone who has lived in NYC for 30+ years, there is an energy now that hasn’t existed for years/decades. The pent up social energy of young people post-pandemic is fueling more partying, sex, socializing than I’ve seen in a long time. The stop and start of the past 2+ years is finally over. The Mpox spread around Pride in July was the first indication - as was the skyrocketing rents reflecting the huge demand (mostly by younger people) to be here no matter what the price/living place restriction. Since August, it feels like the bars are full, people are incredibly social and the hesitancy about sex is evaporating. More sex than I’ve had in years - and I’m an eldergay.

[Quote]NYC has indeed lost the edge but it’s still exponentially more influential and voluminous in terms of culture and activity

How so? What trends or artistic movements have recently come from NYC?

[Quote]As someone who has lived in NYC for 30+ years, there is an energy now that hasn’t existed for years/decades. The pent up social energy of young people post-pandemic is fueling more partying, sex, socializing than I’ve seen in a long time. The stop and start of the past 2+ years is finally over. The Mpox spread around Pride in July was the first indication - as was the skyrocketing rents reflecting the huge demand (mostly by younger people) to be here no matter what the price/living place restriction. Since August, it feels like the bars are full, people are incredibly social and the hesitancy about sex is evaporating. More sex than I’ve had in years - and I’m an eldergay.

wishful drinking

Before anyone responds to the last two posts, be advised that they came from the crime blotter troll/aka FormerNewYorker. Dude is OBSESSED. He is responsible for over half of the posts in the linked thread and is similarly trying to derail this one.

as someone who lived in NY in the 80s and 90s when Barracuda, Crobar, Splash, The Limelight, Wonder Bar/Eastern Bloc, Pyramid Bar, 10th Avenue Lounge, Club USA, The Tunnel, The Roxy, Cake, Dick's, Phoenix, Boy Bar, Universal Grill, Jackie 60, Candle Bar, Bar 'Do, Cake, The Palladium, Flamingo East, 2nd Avenue Lounge, G, Florent, Odeon, Boots and Saddles, Rome, The Toolbox . . .were in full swing I've never seen anything to equal that in nearly 2 decades and certainly not currently.

I really want to believe r265 but I haven’t seen that at all. I do feel the post-pandemic vibe but not seeing it culminate it mass parties or everybody throwing their panties on the chandelier but I will be looking for it now.

R265 is delusional and perhaps yet another poster doing so from his parent's basement somewhere in Podunk City, USA.

NYC born/raised and know gay scene from 1980's onwards and there is *NOTHING* like rampant sex or whatever R265 believes is going on.

The crime blotter troll’s payroll should be drying up post election. .

r265- Agree 100%

r268, r269- agree.

If you can't have a good time in this town, you're dead inside.

isn't that what this thread is about where you can have a good time R273?

R265 provides no specifics. It's a very generic post and pure🐂🐂🐂.

Spill the tea R273 provide details. Places and events.

There are any number of places I can have a good time It doesn't have to be New York. It's not what it used to be that's all I'm saying and there are several other people who have posted here who have said the same thing. The culture has changed.

and PS there are a lot of people in NY who are miserable.

A tale of two boroughs

A new report from the Real Estate Board of NY shows retail resiliency in trendy neighborhoods such as Williamsburg, Cobble Hill, and Greenpoint.

So much of retail and hospitality in Manhattan say below Harlem depends upon a few main sources for customers; office workers, tourists, upscale/luxury/high net worth persons.

Out in Brooklyn and parts of Queens dynamics have changed up. Those trendy areas located in Williamsburg and so on rely upon locals for a good amount of their customer base. Suffice to say Williamsburg and other parts of Brooklyn in 2022 are not same as 1992, 2002, or even 2012.

Back in day Brooklyn and Queens were largely considered backwaters; if you wanted to *do* anything you schlepped into Manhattan where all the action was, that's not true any longer.

You know Williamsburg has arrived when Hermes is opening a location there...

In short North 6th street and huge part of Williamsburg is becoming what SoHo and Tribeca were back in day. This isn't surprising since large number of those displaced from those areas in Manhattan moved out to Williamsburg.

I don’t get Brooklyn. I’m going back there shortly and will do so with an open mind. But usually I feel out of place because I’m not wearing something zany. Is there a place in Brooklyn for those who are not “on” all the time and have all the correct lingo etc.

That is the vibe of Bushwick, Greenpoint, Williamsburg r277. If that's not a vibe you like you aren't going to like the "cool parts" of Brooklyn.

But there other areas. Downtown Brooklyn, DUMBO, Fort Green. Those southern Brooklyn neighborhoods are less hipster than Northern Brooklyn

R278 thanks that is informative.

It’s not like I don’t like that scene so much as that scene doesn’t like me. Which is surprising because I’m naturally quirky. Almost too much so for Manhattan. But nowhere near enough for Brooklyn because my quirkiness is not a put on or an act. So it’s an odd place to be for me. It should feel at home but it feels like everybody is faking it.

I was expecting to be welcomed into open arms, celebrating my uniqueness. I was to have found a new “home” and could shun Manhattan forever. I was going to just leave it to the squares.

But now I find myself back where I started. Lost in gay purgatory. Back to the hunt for my long lost tribe of likeminded people.

SMH

Fort Green and Dumbo are not in "Southern Brooklyn"

Coney Island and Bensonhurst are.

Most of Brownstone Brooklyn aka Gentrified Brooklyn is not Hipster Heaven.

Areas like Park Slope, Cobble Hill, Prospect Heights, Boerum Hill and Brooklyn Heights are mostly families

R281 exactly, as someone who ACTUALLY lives in South Brooklyn (Midwood), there’s really no difference in my mind between Bushwick etc and Manhattan. Both are “the city”.

I've heard wonderful things about Brooklyn Heights. Can someone who makes $80K afford to live there without a roommate?

"I've heard wonderful things about Brooklyn Heights. Can someone who makes $80K afford to live there without a roommate?"

No!

Brooklyn Heights has been pricey rent wise for decades, things went into overdrive for past one or two.

NYC landlords typically like to see a forty times rent to income ratio. Eighty grand per year is not going to get you far in most of NYC. You'll need to find a roommate or two. This unless you land some sort of affordable or low income housing.

"What’s the tea on NYC?'

Lipton....

Yes.

Nice neighborhood, the best. Quiet side streets and amazing skyline views of Manhattan. Everything you want or need is within walking distance.

Rent in this prime neighborhood is the same as Manhattan.

80k salary and wanting to live alone r283?

Come on now, that is going to be nigh impossible in any desirable neighborhood. You need to look out. Upper Manhattan in Washington Heights/Inwood, Queens in like Jackson Heights/Sunnyside areas. Weehawken/Union/West New York in New Jersey.

Those types of neighborhoods. Brooklyn Heights is very desirable and expensive.

Patty and Cathy, identical cousins lived in Brooklyn Hts.

Sorry but that's sillier than me calling Fort Green south Brooklyn (really just meant it is south of North Brooklyn) r282. Bushwick is not the "the city", geographically it's removed from Manhattan and it is a lot of former industrial sites that have been converted. Looks nothing like Manhattan.

Curious if anyone has been to Red Farm, either location?

Brooklyn Heights = Manhattan prices. Always has been for 30+ years. Now most of the rest of central and west Brooklyn has caught up with Manhattan too. Washington Heights is where you want to be on $80k/year,

That poster might be able to find a studio in Lenox Hill/Yorkville/UES.

But yeah Upper Manhattan in Washington Heights and in Queens will be the easiest hunting.

Though if you are seriously apt hunting how do you not know Brooklyn Heights is notoriously expensive.

"That poster might be able to find a studio in Lenox Hill/Yorkville/UES."

Oh really? Have you been to UES/Yorkville lately? Even east of Third avenue to East End has gotten very expensive.

With luck and bit of effort someone may find a rent stabilized unit for about $1600, but it's going to be in some old tenement (likely walk up) building and probably far as fuck from anything.

Second Avenue subway has been a game changer. Now living between Second and First or even First and York isn't considered such a backwater.

In any event even if rent was say $1600 month a LL still would want to see 40x rent ratio.

[quote]With luck and bit of effort someone may find a rent stabilized unit for about $1600, but it's going to be in some old tenement (likely walk up) building and probably far as fuck from anything.

It's New York, many people take apartments like that to get rent they can afford. Just trying to help them out, that area does have deals that are hard to find elsewhere south of Harlem.

How much is eighty grand after taxes?

$51K?

Close, about $54K for single person

here's the tea and A

It's appropriate they ended the night at a dancy party in Brooklyn. That's what I was saying earlier, all the cool dance parties these days take place in Brooklyn.

Agree R299 - the only real dance clubs left in NYC are in Brooklyn - though he elides the step where they have to travel 45 minutes and lose their buzz as they trek out to Greenpoint - presumably via an expensive Uber paid for by Sniffies. Also appropriate it started at Julius which seems to be the hookup spot lately - because people actual meet and talk to strangers there. In general, it’s what I would suggest as an ideal night in NyC right now - including the revamped, dancing Eagle which has made it worthwhile to taxi over there. A good capture of the ethos of NYC right now. Including the sex positivity.

Sniffies NY Mag article

^^^whoops, sorry. I know it was already posted, but I removed the paywall.

Carry on.

OD or homicide.

R300 one of the things that I loved about Manhattan back in the day was the fact that each neighborhood the East Village, West Village, Chelsea, Hell's Kitchen all had numerous venues you could just walk from one to the other. In the East Village there was Phoenix, Dicks, The Cock, Second Avenue Lounge, Boy Bar, Crobar, Cake, Pyramid, Wonder Bar . . .now it's few and far between.

The way you boys talk nostalgically about bars and clubs just doesn't sit right with me. There comes a point, whether you're gay or straight, that you need to settle down and stop going out in search of sex and drugs and a fleeting good time. If you're in a loving, committed relationship, no matter what your lifestyle, you don't need to do go to those places. Just my 2 cents.

[quote]The way you boys talk nostalgically about bars and clubs just doesn't sit right with me.

Girl, no one asked you.

I don't care if you want to be boring and sit at home every night. You don't need to care if other people want to live their life differently and have some fun.

[Quote]The way you boys talk nostalgically about bars and clubs just doesn't sit right with me. There comes a point, whether you're gay or straight, that you need to settle down and stop going out in search of sex and drugs and a fleeting good time. If you're in a loving, committed relationship, no matter what your lifestyle, you don't need to do go to those places. Just my 2 cents.

that time will come when I'm dead

My God, this thread is full of trolls. You've got the crime blotter porn troll aka FormerNewYorker, who is also the "back in the day" troll with his litany of bars. It *was* a great time to be in NYC - I worked at BoyBar, Aztec, WonderBar and a couple after hours myself, but time moves on and things change. FormerNewYorker has posted literally over half of the linked NYC thread, and 33 of the last 36 recent posts are his. Hates NYC for not being what it was in the 80s and 90s and wants you to hate it too. Lives in Weehawken.

Miss Priss/r305 is a garden variety troll. He's also the wondering "about Brooklyn Heights" on an $80,000 salary and claims to have a husbear who participates in orgies at Eagle. Both of them just yanking everyone's chain.

Thanks to the rest of you for keeping this thread going.

Let’s keep this thread going despite the trolls.

I saw Stanley tucci on the train uptown. He is very handsome irl and does not read gay like some of his characters. (He’s straight irl, right?) he has nice skin.

Weed update

[quote]I saw Stanley tucci on the train uptown. He is very handsome irl and does not read gay like some of his characters. (He’s straight irl, right?) he has nice skin.

Straight and hung. Also, a very nice guy.

If I were a courier I would never deliver weed. Guaranteed mugging and, perhaps, killing.

buyer beware

The report at r314 is incomplete.

The 36 new license holders…can they open today? That seems like an important question.

What's incomplete about the report on unlicensed NYC stores?

Here is an article about that r315. Still not an exact date but they estimate the first legal dispensaries should be able to open in a few weeks. Though these things always tend to take longer than people estimate.

Here's the warning about NY TeaHC. The report was about unlicensed dispensaries and tainted marijuana.

Ok so this is going to get going pretty quick with the weed stuff. But initially there will only be 4 outlets in Manhattan which is going to cause some long ass lines. So I would say give it all about 6 months to sort itself out. Maybe 3 if we’re lucky.

Woe be unto those who do not shop legitimate storefronts. There is so much fake crap going around and only the most savvy and connected can try to cut through the underground and the counterfeit scenes (not the same thing).

These first 4 stores are probably going to be pricey given the low competition but eventually things should level out.

The question is what does this mean for NJ? They will have to step up their mediocre legal weed now.

Also curious if NY is only going to sell NY weed which is what NJ does and it think that creates quality issues and lack of competition

[Quote]If I were a courier I would never deliver weed. Guaranteed mugging and, perhaps, killing.

As you said R313

R208 you must be in your 70s. Sunday was one of THE NIGHTS (with Thursday) when I was a scenester in the 80s and early 90s. The best club parties were those two nights.

Great thread, and I have used similar ones when making plans.

Weed: R319 I'm really worried more people are going to get hurt until the well-regulated stuff comes. There is too much money in it and this will attract some awful ingredients/manufacturing processes for awhile. Apparently some strong strains make people vomit to the point of needing to go to the ER!

Quality Bistro: Very loud and more cramped inside than expected. the dining sheds were surprisingly quiet. Mediocre food and drinks.

Milady Bar (Tribeca): Quiet, very dark atmosphere. A good place to unwind with creative drinks and nice staff.

The Shed: The bookstore has a pretty small but excellent range of art and urban planning books. The crowd is pretty old and quiet.

MOMA: Boring exhibits for at least the last 2 years, compared to the other big museums. Forgettable art, but a good shop onsite and offsite.

Saks Flagship: Limited selection of clothes and WAY too much space devoted to perfume. Bizarre setup for a flagship. The holiday windows sucked.

R69, Austin's years-long lock on the "hottest cities" list is impressive. I think it is attracting moderates and conservatives from big cities like LA and NY. Based on some personal observations, it's like they are looking for a balance in their life.

They don't want to go to the more rural parts of the south filled with Confederate flags and angry hypocrites on welfare who complain about the wrong kinds of people on welfare!

Pot was always easily available and there were a few services that delivered to your apartment. Before there was a ban on smoking in clubs and restaurants smoking pot was often tolerated and smoked openly in a number of venues. My friend lit up a joint at 7/A and passed it around the table and no one including the waitress blinked an eye. You could always buy small bags of pot in Washington Square Park and there were several Candy Stores around.

Under The Skin, a play about gay tattooist/historian Samuel Steward, opened last night at La Mama's.

"Its text is artfully derived by Kelly from Steward’s own words, and usually narrated by Kelly live, or in recorded voice over. There are surrealist fantasy sequences; a standout is an actor reading from one of Steward’s porno books about a sexual escapade with a police officer. Two actors suggest the actions, giving us the sense of Steward’s pornographic talent with his lyrically graphic description of this incident of fellatio."

How the holiday season is shaping up

The hottest club in New York is Methyl von Trapp, in Madonna's bathroom. This club has EVERYTHING.

Local news is so cheap now they outsource everything. Now it’s some intern with an iPhone who is reading reports off of twitter. It’s such a crying shame and these companies are still making huge profits from these stripped former local news outlets that often still bear the same name and logo.

What ever happened to the Ted Turner types?

Neil Diamond's musical A Beautiful Noise promised for spring of 2022 finally makes it to Broadway. The reviews are so so at best. Wonder who the audience for this show will be?

VARIETY-

If you are looking to draw an audience into what seems like a typical biographical jukebox musical, starting and ending your drama in psychoanalysis is a great device. Then again, “A Beautiful Noise: The Neil Diamond Musical,” does not exactly play by all the rules of jukebox theater. It unfolds first as a hit parade within a dramatic retelling of Diamond’s 1960s beginnings in Act 1, followed by a second act set of sequined, post-1960s concerts spliced with portraits of a broken marriage and lonely childhood, and then a denouement of hardcore emotional resolve.

All that, plus sparkly fringe and a poignant, pre-intermission sing-along of “Sweet Caroline.” Ultimately, “A Beautiful Noise” is victorious, but not without a few rough bumps along the way — much like the trajectory of Diamond’s life.

R329. Bridge and tunnel crowd. And, of course, tourists.

Tourists have always been a crucial backbone of Broadway r330. It would be never survive off only the tristate attendees.

They have finally been successful in getting Julius officially designated as a landmark like Stonewall is.

Happy for them, though I must admit I haven't been by Julius in years.

Jay Z is in on the Times Square Casino.

^ is the casino a good idea for Times Square, Broadway and Manhattan?

r334 It'll be fun. Times Square is pretty dull with just the tacky stores and chain restaurants right now.

Since this is a NYC tea related question; Tea & Sympathy

Rents are really fucked again. New York staying near the summer peak even as lots of other cities have seen their rents go back down. The bullshit "tenant rights" law they passed in 2019 means you legally need to be making 40 times the rent to sign a lease.

[Quote] Times Square is pretty dull with just the tacky stores and chain restaurants right now.

Have you ever been to a casino or seen the characters that it attracts? Talk about tacky! I think it would certainly give New York's tourist economy a boost, but I doubt many New Yorkers will go.

[quote]My friend lit up a joint at 7/A and passed it around the table and no one including the waitress blinked an eye.

This would bother me. I have smoked my share (more than most) but if I paid for food in a restaurant I wouldn't be happy if pungent smoke was drifting across the table.

I don't see a big deal about a casino in Times Square at all.

But there are NIMBYs that get upset about every change, in another thread here I know we had a poster getting upset about a Casino ruining the ambiance of....Times Square.

[quote]Have you ever been to a casino or seen the characters that it attracts? Talk about tacky! I think it would certainly give New York's tourist economy a boost, but I doubt many New Yorkers will go.

Tourists all have casinos in their own cities, so the NY casino will primarily be for NYC and northern Jersey residents.

Every tourist does not live somewhere with a casino r341. And many that do will still want to check out what the casino in NY will be like. It's Time Square, there will be a lot of tourist going to check it out.

Enjoy it while it lasts. The casino itself will be one of the greatest revitalization projects for Times Square in the past 100 years.

But problems will arise shortly after. Casinos need to be majorly overhauled every 4 years, and everything needs to be 100% stripped out and replaced every 8 years to avoid it looking like a gone-to-seed piece of shit.

It will attract lowlifes from day one. But that won't drive the high net-worth individuals away, as long as the place looks good. Rubbing shoulders with lowlifes in a safe environment gives feelings of excitement to the wealthy.

[Quote]This would bother me. I have smoked my share (more than most) but if I paid for food in a restaurant I wouldn't be happy if pungent smoke was drifting across the table.

as others were smoking cigarettes btw. This was in the 90s when you could smoke in bars, restaurants, bowling alleys, offices and airplanes

[Quote]This would bother me. I have smoked my share (more than most) but if I paid for food in a restaurant I wouldn't be happy if pungent smoke was drifting across the table.

R339 this was in the 90s before the 2003 ban on indoor smoking. Hopefully you didn't live in NY then, but it was nonetheless a great time to be in NY.

Caroline in city no more

Find me some timestamps of hot guys

I've noticed an absence of hot guys for years in New York particularly in Chelsea and the Village. 8th Avenue in Chelsea was a parade of hot guys back in the day. The neighborhoods have changed.

The hot guys of yore now have pot bellies and double chins.

Chelsea is not the gayborhood anymore r348. If you want to people watch hot guys move up to 9th avenue in Hells Kitchen.

[Quote]East Village nightlife is very young, but NY in general is not. Go to the gay bars in Hells Kitchen and the most common demographic is late 20s/early 30s.

even in HK there's an absence of young gay men. and the bars and clubs are not packed and are dead after 1am

Go out to Astoria and few other parts of Queens, also check out areas of Brooklyn, plenty of young gays of all races, creeds and colors.

Young gays are no different than straights; many simply cannot afford to live in Manhattan, and certainly not the new gentrified Hell's Kitchen.

^ bump

Idk I see hot guys on the subway every day.

The Q, Hush, and Industry are rocking til close every weekend r351 in Hells Kitchen. And Industry is generally a pretty young crowd.

I do agree with r352 that generally the Manhattan gay scene is not super young if you are looking for a lot of early 20s. Rosemount in Brooklyn is a good gay bar if that's the age range you want to be around.

A photo from Hush. Despite the caption it doesn't look like they had fun

[quote]The Q, Hush, and Industry are rocking til close every weekend [R351] in Hells Kitchen. And Industry is generally a pretty young crowd.

Don't mind him, r355. That's the crime blotter troll, FormerNewYorker, who sometimes changes tack to be a slightly less obvious general Debbie Downer. He's posted over 70 times in this thread, all of them negative. He's r356, for example.

He has posted all but 2 of the last 50 posts in the linked thread and is responsible for almost 75% of that thread. He seems compelled to infest any nyc thread.

Round up of bars in Queens.

R348 I see lots of hot guys in the Flatiron district and north Chelsea/south Midtown.

Hush is where the energy is right now thanks to the tip upthread I was able to experience it first hand. It was lit 10/10 will be going back.

* as far as HK that is.

The whiffle ball crowd are the worst. I know we don't typically side with children/parents but in the NY of the 80s/90s this would be "die yuppie scum" writ large!

I can’t wait until these storefronts open up. It will save me a bus trip to NJ. If somehow I miss it, post when the first store is up which should be imminently.

[quote][R348] I see lots of hot guys in the Flatiron district and north Chelsea/south Midtown.

Thanks, r359. r348 is also FormerNewYorker, who just wants to piss on anything NYC oriented. Thanks to r360, also. I'll have to check Hush out.

R364 industry is right across the street you can also pop in there but it seems the heat is on Hush at least for the time being.

This troll has more names than Daenerys Stormborn.

from the troll expert

[Quote]My God, this thread is full of trolls. You've got the crime blotter porn troll aka FormerNewYorker, who is also the "back in the day" troll with his litany of bars. It *was* a great time to be in NYC - I worked at BoyBar, Aztec, WonderBar and a couple after hours myself, but time moves on and things change. FormerNewYorker has posted literally over half of the linked NYC thread, and 33 of the last 36 recent posts are his. Hates NYC for not being what it was in the 80s and 90s and wants you to hate it too. Lives in Weehawken

[Quote]Miss Priss/r305 is a garden variety troll. He's also the wondering "about Brooklyn Heights" on an $80,000 salary and claims to have a husbear who participates in orgies at Eagle. Both of them just yanking everyone's chain.

[Quote]"I've heard wonderful things about Brooklyn Heights. Can someone who makes $80K afford to live there without a roommate?"

[Quote]Hush is where the energy is right now thanks to the tip upthread I was able to experience it first hand. It was lit 10/10 will be going back.

When were you there? What night? What time? What was the crowd like? Were there strippers or drag Queen performing? What was the vibe? Spill the tea!

Lay off the meth FormerNewYorker/r 367/r368./r369, or go back on your meds. All you are doing is proving my point of what an obsessive troll you are.

For the rest of you - I'd like to try one of these rooftop places.

Well I went to hush twice but I went early both times one night was a thurs not sure the other. Thurs night was Latino night and was so fun. It gets packed later like after 12 when I usually go home so next time I’m planning for a later night. Some of the drag race girls hang out there but no drag that night yes go go dancers.

*that might be at industry across the street that the drag race race girls hang out. I went to both.

You might want to check this out R370

Thanks R371 Here's a review from Yelp!

6/4/2022

Well, goodbye Therapy... hello, Hush! I guess that's what comes with change. Very nicely renovated space. It felt very welcoming and oddly better than it's predecessor. The bartenders were very nice, there was great dancers. The drag show was fantastic. Such great queens. And the drinks were much cheaper and better than the surrounding bars. I'm so happy this location opened up again. I was only there once but it was a great night. I'm not a prude, but I wasn't the biggest fan of the videography. I get it, it's a gay bar, but maybe doing a vjay instead of clips of porn. Support your local gay bar!

5 of the last 8 posts are FormerNewYorker, still trying to derail the thread.

Governor's island winter village is a nice diversion.

R364 I just passed three stunningly handsome men while walking less than two blocks in Northeast Chelsea.

^ I saw several gorgeous guys at Empire training in Lyndhurst NJ last night. They're all over the place.

Lucky you R376 I was in Chelsea Tuesday to get my hair cut at 25th and 7th and then I walked over to the Sullivan St Bakery on 9th and then up to 29th Street to visit my friends who lives in the French apartments and didn't see any gorgeous guys. The demographic has changed in the last 10 years or so.

^Our very own Debbie Downer (FormerNewYorker), telling r376 and r377 that they can't have seen gorgeous men because he hasn't. Pt's impossible, he tells you. Impossible! The very demographic has changed!

Maybe he needs his eyes checked.

NYC?

Who dat?

There are attractive and friendly young men at Rounds.

R381 what about the Townhouse?

^The denizens of the Townhouse are all as old as you, FormerNewYorker - but it isn't the worst idea if someone is looking for a sugar daddy.

It opens at 4PM

^yes, we know, FormerNewYorker, since I just posted that. It seems its glory days are behind it, though,

Did you leave this review, Mr Weehawken?

"Glauber T. NJ, NJ

11/13/2022 I've been coming to this place almost every week for a year, driving for 3 hours round trip from New Jersey. Unfortunately that ended yesterday. One particular customer had been disruptive and abusive towards the pianist and other patrons for several months, but management did nothing after repeated complaints. The pianist finally had enough and quit. I had joined a group of friends dubbed the "piano family" that followed the pianist for years, even staying strong during the pandemic. Yesterday that also ended (at least until there's a better venue). It's disappointing that management chose one rude customer over their own talent and other loyal customers. Luckily there are many other piano bars in New York City."

Rounds is long gone, r381, but it was a great place in the early '80s (yes, I'm an eldergeigh).

"Charles Scaglione Sr. recently has published a self-styled memoir chronicling his adventures in operating Rounds, a reputed NYC gay hustler bar that opened in 1979, and he's telling some secrets and naming some names. In Camelot Lost (RoseDog Books 2009) Scaglione offers a rarely-revealed insider's perspective into the business side of a gay nightlife establishment -- or "store" as it's referred to in the industry -- and as a straight man provides unique cultural insight into the gay scene as it leaves the wild seventies for the AIDS-ravaged eighties. Rounds, often euphemistically referred to by Scaglione as a "cruising bar," was located at 303 East 53rd Street in an upscale midtown area known as "the loop" where johns would seek to hook up with hustlers, and its owners apparently intended from the beginning to capitalize on the neighborhood vibe: "The street is a perfect location for a hustler bar. That is what it shall be." * * * The grand opening of Rounds in 1979 was a star-studded event according to Scaglione in Camelot Lost, and he alleges that record producer David Geffen, Studio 54 owner Steve Rubel, and fashion designer Calvin Klein were among those in attendance. Other celebrities and glitterati who allegedly patronized Rounds over the years included Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Andy Warhol and Vladimir Horowitz."

Haven't been myself, but Club Cumming, in the East Village, is owned by Alan Cumming. He is there from time to time.

there is nothing renting for 1600 in lenox hill, upper east side or yorkville. A friend of mine was looking and he tells me that a shitty studio apt is at least 2500 to 3000.

He got a good deal during covid, I think it was 1400 for a studio by the UN area on 2nd Ave. The landlord jacked up the rent 900 bucks. He renewed 1 more year and now is looking for other apts.

If you like your drinks with a little kink, there's Pink Metal in Bushwick.

How do average folks afford to live NYC?

It isn't easy, r390. I moved here in the 80s with $1,000. Back then you could use the classifieds in Village Voice to bounce from sublet to sublet. I did that, and finally bought a busted up old building in a very bad part of Queens. Still possible to do, but you really have to look. South Bronx ans parts of Queens are your best bet.

All the kids I know get by with roommates.

Because Manhattan is in reality only a small sliver of New York r390. There are tons of working class families in the Bronx, Queens, deep into Brooklyn. Far from what are considered the "cool areas" that have the absurd price tags. They are just not areas the average person moving to NY would be interested in living in.

The type of person just has roommates, rent becomes more affordable when you are splitting it with a few people.

No one can afford to live in NY yet somehow 8 million people do- Annie Leibovitz

[Quote]How do average folks afford to live NYC?

by having roommates and/or living frugally.

[quote]What’s the tea on NYC?

Long Island Iced, of course, silly!

If Broadway is struggling so are shops, hotels and restaurants in the Times Square area. Time to bring on the casino?

How is crime in Chicago vs New York? Chicago it seems like you can do whatever you want.

I don't want CrimeBlotterTroll to start going crazy as they don't believe in crime rates, but crime in New York is actually not considered high. New York actually has a lower crime rate than most other comparable American cities.

Chicago's crime rate is noticeably higher than New Yorks, but even still there a lot of cities that are worse off.

[quote]I don't want CrimeBlotterTroll to start going crazy

Too late, r398. CrimeBlotterTroll aka FormerNewYorker has officially lost it, posting 88 of the last 100 posts in the linked DL thread below. He's present quite a bit in this thread, as his Debbie Downer character. He's r 396, for example.

Has anyone on here checked out this NY based art installation?

EV to get its first rock club in a generation

another first

The line at the first dispensary in the city.

The latest on NYC real estate

population decline

My pathetic aged-obsessed stalker has derailed this thread trying to make it about Former New Yorker

[Quote]Don't mind him, [R355]. That's the crime blotter troll, FormerNewYorker, who sometimes changes tack to be a slightly less obvious general Debbie Downer. He's posted over 70 times in this thread, all of them negative. He's [R356], for example.

[Quote]He has posted all but 2 of the last 50 posts in the linked thread and is responsible for almost 75% of that thread. He seems compelled to infest any nyc thread.

[Quote]Too late, [R398]. CrimeBlotterTroll aka FormerNewYorker has officially lost it, posting 88 of the last 100 posts in the linked DL thread below. He's present quite a bit in this thread, as his Debbie Downer character. He's r 396, for example.

[Quote]Lay off the meth FormerNewYorker/r 367/[R368]./[R369], or go back on your meds. All you are doing is proving my point of what an obsessive troll you are.

[Quote]^The denizens of the Townhouse are all as old as you, FormerNewYorker - but it isn't the worst idea if someone is looking for a sugar daddy.

and speaking of derailing a thread stalkarina

[Quote]5 of the last 8 posts are FormerNewYorker, still trying to derail the thread.

Hochul sworn in as first lady governor

R408: Now that this fucking hypocrite is officially an elected governor she’s begging the rich to come back to New York so she can tax them. This after she told anybody who disagrees with her to get the hell out of town.

R405: Crime, rats, drag Queen story hour, and terrible weather.

from the NY Times Jan. 1, 2023

Without offering specifics, she broadly vowed to crack down on hate crimes and tackle gun violence so that “New Yorkers can walk our streets, ride our subways and our kids can go to school, free from fear.”

Vehicular fatalities are spiking

We are at a record peak in the number of people being killed by cars in America r412. Nothing about it special to NY.

But I see the trolls relate trying to take over this thread, maybe just as well.

Has anyone been to The Q?

R413 perhaps it's the number of vehicles in a densely populated area.

Several times r414. It's one of the more popular places in Hells Kitchen, the top floor becomes a big dance party every weekend. Always need to buy a ticket to get in weekend nights. The very annoying thing is there is no bathroom on the top floor so you have to go downstairs if you need to go, and then potentially wait in line(!) to get back in the top floor when they are busy.

If you are a cruisy type, they have a cruisy sex themed party on Thursday nights on the second floor in what becomes their dark room.

Outside of the peak times they will also host drag shows and other performances. Because it is three stories they have more areas to play with than most Manhattan bars.

Thanks, r416. Thanks for the info on the 3rd floor. Talk about poor planning!

A few leads on cruise-y pop ups and more in this article.

John Waters: “Nobody can ever get a date in New York. Everyone here is so hung on power games that accepting a romantic invitation means surrendering status. All anyone cares about in NYC is not relinquishing power and hierarchy. No one kisses anyone here.”

That article is true, there has been a return of some sleaziness to the NYC gay scene r418. The Eagle is more popular than ever and on Wednesdays especially it is just a full fledged sex club. The Q has their sex party night, the new club Verse introduced a cruisy sex party event, and Rockbar has some cruisy sex party nights. Parties like Harder, Wrecked, Meat all have active cruising areas.

Definitely has been some forward movement if you like that old school cruise party vibe.