Prince Edward & All His Fake Medals

I won a medal for cocksucking and another for dockside cruising

So fuck off, bitch!

I heard Edward was a champion cottager.

They were mostly jubilee medals given him by his mother.

Dockside Doris, at the ready!

I’d still hit it…face-down.

Anne looks like Miss Jane Hathaway went into the Armed Forces.

Elizabeth and Philip were both very good looking.

How is it that their first two children were so unattractive?

WW R6, Bravo!

The pageantry is for the tourist trade. It Is all this family has left.

Andrew must have been seething, SEETHING I TELL YOU, that he couldn't wear his military regalia while they stood shiva. At least he could say his chest decor were real military awards. I'm also surprised Charles didn't wear his.

Such a beautiful. ceremony. They looked wonderful. All of them. She would have been please, I bet.

Everyone knows that Princess Anne was the best choice of the four to be the new monarch, not Charles. Her demeanor and attitude is just like her Mama's. Poor Charles is overwhelmed. He's just not very suitable to such a stressful role, esp. at his age. Still, I hope he does very well.

[quote] while they stood shiva

R10 "Shiva" refers to the 7 days of mourning according to Jewish law. Stop using a completely erroneous and inappropriate term for a Xtian ceremony.

I wish them all well . Loosing both parents within a short period of time is very difficult . They are facing a great deal of change in the order of things.

Shut it R13. I know full well what shiva means. And I'll use whatever term I so desire.

Edward and his chest for of bling is exactly what's wrong with this petty, royal bullshit.

Hate Harry all you want but he at least served, and during war too. God forbid he is allowed to wear his uniform to his grandmother's funeral. It's not like he's a sex pest like his uncle.

At an early stage in his career Edward put his life on the line for musical theatre. DL of all places should respect that contribution.

In articles I've read in the last day or so it appears that many Brits are as aghast at Edward wearing all that military regalia as we Yanks are.

"Hey, Eddie, where did you get the medals?"

"Mummy gave them to me"

😂

R15 No, obviously you DON'T know what it means because you used it erroneously and incorrectly. Xtians have stolen enough from Jews. And your ignorance exacerbates Xtian theft.

" Xtians have stolen enough from Jews"

Um, 🤔, er... Jesus Fucking Christ

R21 Xtians stole history and laws meant solely for Jews and then spent close to two millennia butchering the witnesses of their theift.

^ What are you trying to say? Do you want Jesus back?

What military unit did Princess Anne serve in to get to wear a uniform at every funeral?

^ Family ass-kickin' bitch

[quote] Stop using a completely erroneous and inappropriate term for a Xtian ceremony.

As X is an abbreviation for Christ, it should, of course, be Xian. Perhaps you also write Merry Xtmas on your "Chrismas" cards.

X is an abbreviation for Χριστός, Christ in Greek. Since we're writiing in English, spelling becomes arbitrary.

Christian-hater is now blocked 🚫!

[quote] I heard Edward was a champion cottager.

No, he's actually a champion FROTTAGEer.

Here are Anne's military honors.

And Dockside Doris'

R16 wins the thread.

Wasn't Edward a Boy Scout or Girl Guide? Some of the medals could come from that.

Anne is a damn bore and has resting bitch face. No one would want to see that on their money. Andrew and Anne look ridiculous in these honorary medals. The Crown really should insist that all royal children join the service. If the girls and gays want equality then they all need to show up and finish a round of military service. That including Princess Charlotte, better get off her ass in 18 years and join the service with her brothers.

[quote]Loosing both parents within a short period of time is very difficult

It's difficult to untie your parents?

Those aren’t military medals. They’re jubilee medals.

I believe Edward was very reliable about styling the Queen's hair and helping her select and accessorize her outfits...that sort of devotion must be rewarded.

He also picked up more than his fair share of Corgi poop.

"They also serve who stand and wait at the ready for their queen."

What an awkward ceremony...this is part of what they've planned for the last 20 years?

Anne is giving off major lesbo vibes.

Honorary or not, it does look ridiculous wearing uniforms when they didn’t serve. Anne looks especially ridiculous. What is up with her anyway? She looks like she’s in a time warp.

R35, Even at 99 and 96?

What a sour puss Princess Anne was in presenting this BAFTA award to Audrey Hepburn in 1992.

Of course, Edward wore his medals…this is pure theater!

Shut up, r13, you stupid fraucunt.

R13 = Crazy JewTranny Matt

Prince Harry will not be wearing his military uniform to the upcoming funeral of Queen Elizabeth.

The spokesperson for the Duke of Sussex, 37, tells PEOPLE in a statement that he "will wear a mourning suit throughout events honoring his grandmother."

"His decade of military service is not determined by the uniform he wears, and we respectfully ask that focus remain on the life and legacy of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II," the spokesperson adds.

Prince Harry, who served in the British Army for 10 years and was deployed to Afghanistan twice, lost his three honorary military titles (Captain General of the Royal Marines, Honorary Air Commandant of RAF Honington and Commodore-in-Chief, Small Ships and Diving, Royal Naval Command) after he and wife Meghan Markle stepped back from their senior royal roles in March 2020.

Buckingham Palace confirmed Monday that at the five major ceremonial events leading up to and including the Queen's state funeral, only working members of the royal family who hold military rank will wear military uniforms.

While King Charles III, Prince William, Princess Anne and Prince Edward are expected to step out in traditional regalia for the mourning events, the Queen's son Prince Andrew and grandson Harry will not, as they are no longer senior working royals.

Though Andrew, 62, will be seen in suits for the remainder of the lead-up ceremonies, a special exception has been made for him to wear a military uniform at the final vigil as a sign of respect for his mother and monarch, who "peacefully" died at age 96 on Thursday.

Prince Andrew spent 22 years in the Royal Navy, serving as a helicopter pilot in the Falklands War in 1982. He was stripped of his military titles and royal patronages in January after he was accused of sexual assault by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, a victim of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's former ring.

The decision on uniforms differs from Prince Philip's funeral at Windsor Castle in April 2021, when Buckingham Palace announced that no senior royal family members would wear traditional military uniforms.

However, Queen Elizabeth's funeral will differ from her husband's as Philip's service was scaled back to a ceremonial royal funeral — not a state funeral — due to COVID-19 concerns.

^ I bet Harry can't wait to get out of there

I’ve read that the military favors the BRF wearing uniforms because it’s good PR for them. Still, Edward… that’s a bit dodgy. I wonder why Anne never signed up. She was training for the Olympics but then so was her then-husband and he was in the army.

Anne is a titular head of something in the armed forces.

Anne and the word titular in the same sentence is a real boner killer.

R7- The actress who played her on The Crown was attractive. The real Queen Elizabeth was rather plain looking.

R45- Prince Harry looks ( like a Peasant) and acts common.

^ I guess it takes a peasant to recognize a peasant

R20, Matt is that you?

Edward's wife is on the ball, she used to work in PR. Did she know he is gay and she doesn't care? Is she a dyke? Or could he be one of those gay seeming heteros?

The majority of his medals are not military medals, but they can be worn with a uniform nonetheless. He's a member of the Order of the Garter and the Royal Victorian Order. Because he wears the riband of the Garter in full, the riband of the Royal Victorian Order can be worn on the chest in medal form. Commemorative medals were issued to many people throughout the Commonwealth, including members of the Queen's family. I've seen him and his siblings wearing the Queen's Silver Jubilee, the Golden Jubilee, and the Diamond Jubilee medals. Charles and Anne also have their mother's Coronation medals. Also, like his siblings, they've received commemorative medals from Australia, Canada, and New Zealand.

So the medals aren't fake. You just don't know what they are for and incorrectly assumed they were military service.

r55 that's all well and good, but doesn't explain why they can't pin them on a normal suit rather then insisting on military uniforms, despite half of these man/women-children never serving at all. Really is no better then some dictator playing dress up in military attire.

It's customary for for regiments in the UK and the Commonwealth to have Colonels-in-Chief and members of the Royal Family usually hold the ceremonial position. Some Royals are Colonel-in-Chief of several. Ceremonial or not, it does entitle them to a uniform. I'm not saying it's appropriate, I'm just explaining how it works.

The Queen wore medals and military outfits too, and she served only as a mechanic (and for only four months at that) in the women's service.

[quote] [R55] that's all well and good, but doesn't explain why they can't pin them on a normal suit rather then insisting on military uniforms, despite half of these man/women-children never serving at all. Really is no better then some dictator playing dress up in military attire.

But you're okay with them wearing crowns and tiaras?

As QE2 said to Margaret Thatcher after the latter made disparaging remarks about Commonwealth "tribal leaders in eccentric costumes": "But isn't that all I am, Prime Minister? A tribal leader in an eccentric costume?"

How many commoners have as many medals? That's why he's so much better than them.

[quote]As QE2 said to Margaret Thatcher after the latter made disparaging remarks about Commonwealth "tribal leaders in eccentric costumes": "But isn't that all I am, Prime Minister? A tribal leader in an eccentric costume?"

Love this anecdote, it's new to me. Glorious that the Monarch so deftly taught the grocer's daughter a lesson in humility.

" it appears that many Brits are as aghast at Edward wearing all that military regalia as we Yanks are."

But not Anne? I guess they're afraid of saying anything about Anne.

She's really going Full Diesel this week, which I love.

R60- Prince Harry looks and acts like a commoner and he had loads of medals.

r61, I forgot to make clear that that only happened on "The Crown," and not in actuality.

Mea culpa. I apologize.

Anne seems the most grief stricken of all the children. There is enormous sadness in her visage. The resting bitch face which has always been her public shield has been overcome by crushing sorrow. She is an old woman and her mother was a very old woman but it doesn't matter. They were mother and daughter. One gets an enormous sense of it in these moments.

They're all fake medals, bogus uniforms, and stolen valor.

Only Andrew genuinely served in the armed forces in a legitimate and un-bought role. Charles rode a desk and "commanded" a boat the size of a beer cooler after dear Uncle Dickie pulled strings to get him skipped ahead a few years. And Edward left basic training to go dance onstage and produce "It's a Royal Knockout." Anne's uniform is due to her honorary appointments as admiral of this or that auxiliary service. She was never an active member.

Are they shitting siva?

So, let me get this straight, r66:

According to you, if you serve in the military and don't see active service on the front lines in a war, then it's not real service and it's just "stolen valor"? People who only do desk service are just pretending?

The BBC commentator said in a snarky way - well, 3 out of 4 of them served in the military.

R68 It's stolen valor when you wear the uniform of an admiral, despite never earning that rank in legitimate military service. It's stolen valor when most of your medals are given to you by your own mother, and not open to the men and women who serve legitimately in the armed forces. It's stolen valor when you only wear the hardware store to stand next to a coffin, and not to a real job.

His only legitimate rank was, what? Ensign? Anything above that had to be given to him at the expense of other sailors who earned their way.

Charles tried being a pilot, until he crashed one of his mother's planes. He tried being a sailor, but had to get relatives to promote him up the chain. He holds the same military rank today as Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, and Georgy Zhukov held during WWII. Those heroes earned their stars. Charles got them by falling out of the right crotch.

"Anne seems the most grief stricken of all the children. There is enormous sadness in her visage."

She was the only one there for the last few days, I expect she did what most daughters do and took more responsibility for aging parents than her brothers. So yes, she and Charles are the only ones who look sad, and Charles looks more crushed than sad, like someone let the air out of him (and that SOB Andrew is obviously enjoying his last chance to parade before the public). But Anne's life hasn't changed except for the loss of her parents, so she's the one who's grieving the most, although it doesn't stop her from being perfectly Correct in public.

You didn't answer my questions, r70.

Harry will be wearing his military uniform tomorrow. He will be with his fellow grandchildren- who will repeat what the 4 children of the Queen did today.

R72 Because your question is dishonest bullshit. I never defined "stolen valor" as belonging to desk jockeys. You invented that awful thought in an attempt to stir the shitpot and make a stranger look mean.

I clarified you what I believe "stolen valor" to be. I answered your question. I just didn't take your bait.

I think a 1976 Olympic medal for equestrian was one that Princess Anne wanted but she took a bad fall while competing. I was watching when it happened and she got back on her horse but had no memory of it after.

[quote] I know full well what shiva means. And I'll use whatever term I so desire.

R10 and R13: The word “shiva” is Hebrew for seven, as in “observing seven days of mourning.” Because 10 days of official mourning were declared for QEII, the correct term to use is “asara”, as in “asara dibraya” (ten commandments).

I still think Edward got the looks in the family. I only wish he was allowed to come out.

It's true, when all four siblings are marching together, Edward is the handsomest. And not just because he's the youngest, he also has the best bone structure.

Mind you, it might be different it they weren't wearing hats, a hat takes the focus of the baldness and lets the bone structure shine.

[quote] Of course, Edward wore his medals…this is pure theater!

Yes, as I said before, it's all about the costumes. Look how many times a day the appear in different clothes.

Get a load of Miss Trixie Delight at R78!

R46, Agreed. I get the tradition and history, but this is 2022; we are not equals if I’m made to walk behind you. A son doesn’t feel valuable or loved, when his life becomes one of a nonentity because his brother has a kid. We don’t leave our estates to our first born and tell our other children to go sort themselves. If nothing else, this funeral gave me an opportunity to view Harry’s actions with a bit more clarity and nuance. He has a tough line to tow if he wants to be back with his family.

It is Dockyard Doris or Dishcloth Doris, not Dockside.

R78 and R80...

You are why I love The DalaLounge!

Now, this lil' ol' body gotta go winky tink!!

Stolen valor is more of an American thing.

R83 - Do you have a bladder the size of a PEANUT?!? 🤣

I think Harry is an idiot, but I will say it is interesting how it cycles. Like I’m sure the Queen’s children were once as high profile as Harry, but slowly fade out and relegated to the second row behind Kate and William. It must be a really weird position to be in, even for the second fiddle grandchildren,

In only a few years, future generations will see all four of the Queen's children guarding her coffin in stunning military uniforms and people will say, "How nice. What a beautiful picture of the Queen's children paying tribute in their uniforms for their dear mother.

Unless properly researched, they will never know that Anne never served on active duty, or that Edward flunked out of basic training, or Andrew was stripped of his uniform for sexual misconduct. Does Charles have a back story I don't know about?

It is all about posterity and pictures, real or not. They are all that count and the only thing people will remember. It's all Show Biz!

[quote] I’m sure the Queen’s children were once as high profile as Harry, but slowly fade out and relegated to the second row behind Kate and William

Exactly.

The same thing will happen to Charlotte and Louis.

Eventually, people will focus on George, and not the "other two."

William has turned out to be a complete pompous bore like Charles. Too bad Harry is not the first born, he would have much better king, despite what the deranged Meghan/Diana haters, Camilla cunt lickers on here like to spew out.

No, R85. I'm just waiting for someone to give me $25. For that, I'd drop my pants down in the middle of the road! 😂

Give me the pompous bore (William) with above average intelligence rather than the moron (Harry) who is also an emotional cripple. You've gotta be taking the piss, r89, so all right, hahahaha. I kind of fell for it.

I'm gobsmacked still that many of you apparently think the entire idea of a royal family is somehow based on their merit. Of course their medals and military outfits are meaningless and simply decorative because they're royals--did you really not understand that?

The Queen herself wore admiral's outfits and medals every year for the Trooping of the Colour (when she was young enough still to accomplish it). Do you think she was awarded them for outstanding auto mechanic's duties above and beyond the call of duty in the Women's Auxiliary service for four months in 1945?

Harry has to be one of the most stupid people on public view. Why anybody would think he'd make a good king is beyond me.

The Queen's father made Harry look like Einstein. Not just the stuttering, he was a moron.

It's so often been noted that the Abdication did the public a great favour. George VI might have had his limitations; but he spared us all the preening man-baby who was Edward VIII. And George VI evidently instilled values enough in his oldest daughter to enable a unique hallowed reign.

Harry certainly wouldn't make a good king, but he'd sure be an entertaining one!

He's kept us enthralled for years with hids personal trainwreck, now imagine all that amplified a thousandfold....

George was a retard that couldn't even manage to shoot up Cookies twat . FAIL.!

Oh Wallis, we all chuckled so much when Jimmy Donahue said sleeping with you was like being with a very old sailor. But given David's lifelong impotence, you had to take what you could get!

What's the problem here?

George Vl helped the country through WWll.

Harry would have fled the country gone to Germany and worn Nazi regalia to his heart's content.

Those Nazi uniforms were smashing.

R92, I think most fully understand their medals are decorative and unearned. They just don’t think they should be wearing uniforms or medals they didn’t earn. It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

A family of utter ego, plain and simple. Their "service" is really a service of being spoiled.

Queen Mary shaped QUEEN Elizabeth's sense of duty not Eddie. Is it me or do Queen Elizabeth's children all seem like failures? How the BRF stays in "power" for 30 more years is beyond me. The whole idea of them being in power is the notion that their blood is better than the rest, and that's just something of a bygone Era.

It’s shocking it’s lasted this long considering how much they cost and control. I think it’s just so engrained in British culture that most just accept it with no second thought. I know the whole tourism thing is touted, but how many tourists actually see any of the Royals? I’d say not many. So buildings like BP and the guards would still be business as usual. All the homes in the crown worth billions can be privatized for profit. I mean honest to goodness, they have the best scam going, even their renovations are paid for by tax dollars.

Charles and Andrew are certainly failures. Though Andrew deserves a category of his own. He certainly wins the Harvey Weinstein creep of the year award every year. Edward is average and likes his musicals but Anne seems the most level headed and even keeled of all of them.

Charles has been going on about climate change forever yet lives a life about as wasteful and exploitive of the earth's resources as can be imagined. Harry takes very much after him. Being so concerned about how life is so unfair to so many people including himself and his wife but instead of taking a vow of poverty and administering to the aid of others he has taken an oath of sheer greed to live a life as costly and grand as possible and like his father to take horrible advantage of others and use as much of the earth's resources as a human possibly. They are like the liberal version of christian republicans. Despising everyone yet spouting banalities about generosity, equality and using their privileged positions for service to others when it is purely for themselves.

In the end, it is probable that 10 entire days of mourning and excessive royal theatrics by the living members of the BRF will do more to damage the monarchy than any single past episode.

Yet, Harry who actually did serve over in Afghanistan, isn't allowed to wear his uniform. He really did earn it. I know someone will defend the decision. I was scolded before on another thread about it. I don't care. Harry was a real soldier and should be allowed to wear his uniform.

Harry can wear his uniform at the vigil this evening, because The King says so.

Sky News was just showing Edward and Sophie doing a walkabout, "live".

He was walking by and ignoring outstretched hands, while she was offering her hand willingly.

HRH Princess a was a "world-class cock sucker" Sucking off those Guardsmen at the palace and in Regents Park is hard work. His knees must have been soooo sore.

Edward is a DLer certainly in spirit. Why would he want to touch all these strangers' hands? Yuck.

R98, David was not impotent, dear. Shame about your teeth.

All this talk about Andrew and wearing their uniforms for the 15-minute, pre-funeral vigils. Sheesh, they both served in the military (Andrew for 22 years; Harry for 10), but neither are in the military any longer, so they both should have worn their mourning coats, not military uniforms.

However, Edward definitely should not have worn a military get-up. He never served at all other than four months. How did Edward sneak below the radar?

Andrew served for 22 years; 12 years longer than Harry.

^ Then Andrew gets 12 more little buttons and a bunch more of those ropy things

Grandchildren hold vigil.

He was a hottie back in the day.

The youngest, son of Edward, does not use title.

Edward wears a uniform for the same reason as Anne. They are honorary heads. Andrew and Harry are not.

But Andrew and Harry both served their country in wartime.

Edward served tea to Queen Latifah.

Edward also served up his ass to sailors on shore leave 😛

Retired military in the UK aren't allowed to wear their uniforms, just their medals unlike the US.

Fraucunt!!!!! hahahaha

This place always serves up something new

Apparently in the UK who wears what when is entirely up to the King. He'll call you if he needs your advice

Princess Anne's son Peter, the first born grandchild, is rugged, masculine and hot as fuck.

There's a faction of gossips who keep insisting Harry wasn't Charles son. But hell. Look at Andrew. Andrew looks nothing like his brothers and sister. All three of them looks related. Andrew not so much....

Andrew looks like the buffoonish version of his mother while Edward looks like the refined version.

Harry looks like his father and paternal grandfather; it’s the eyes and nose.

Is it just one person obsessing over Edward wearing a military uniform and giving Anne a pass, or several?

Honestly, for someone to keep harping on this point and only attacking Edward, whiffs of internalized homophobia.

R118, King Charles, in that photo, has the bestest ass I have ever seen. Good Lord, who knew?!

R131, But, has he ever been properly rimmed?

^ it’s too late now. It looks nothing like that anymore. What a waste.

What is the legal age of consent in England?

Two of Edwards' medals were given to him by the Queen for theatrical service. One, for surviving under the tutelage of Andrew Lloyd Webber; the other, for having the patience to sit through a revival of Cats with the Queen Mum.

Edward is well known to hate shaking hands, and in most circumstances refuses to allow commoners to touch him. I think he might be a germaphobe.

'Loosing both parents within a short period of time is very difficult'

Oh, dear. Were they set LOOSE like a dog into the yard?

'What is the legal age of consent in England?'

16

'They're all fake medals, bogus uniforms, and stolen valor. Only Andrew genuinely served in the armed forces in a legitimate and un-bought role.'

So Pedrew's role wasn't bought but Harry's was? Why did you make that distinction, Klan Cunt?

R139 Harry wasn't one of the four performing in the ceremony in question. Harry wasn't even there!

Not everything is about Harry, Meghan. Get lost!

"Is it me or do Queen Elizabeth's children all seem like failures?"

I wouldn't say Anne is a failure in life. She accepted a job with the family Firm knowing what the limitations were for her, she did as good a job as she could, and she did what she liked on her own time. Her children have turned out well, she's earned real respect as an equestrian, and if her marriages haven't been a raging success... she doesn't strike me as the sort of woman who's going to be a raging success in a heterosexual marriage.

Andrew would probably call himself a success by his own lights, even if he's a failure as a human being. He's gotten away with the sleaze, and a whole lot of dirty money, and he's probably proud of that.

Edward’s son is by far the best looking in that family.

R142, He's adorable.

R136, And yet, he wouldn't think twice about sucking an anonymous hookup's cock.

Edward had to leave the military after 4 months if he didn't want to wear a nappy for the rest of his life, his ass was pulp.

I thought Harry wasn't allowed to wear his uniform but yet he wore one?

Charles gave Harry and Andrew special permission to wear their uniforms during their Vigils. They'll be back in civilian dress, probably morning dress, during the funeral.

The medals are not military medals.

Princess Margaret's hunky grandson, Arthur Chatto, should walk behind the Queen's casket tomorrow shirtless.

Arthur Chatto . . .

I had no idea the Queen had 2 more children. How come they can stay private and Harry and Meghan are in the press 24/7??

Makes you wonder ...

"Makes you wonder ... "

Not really, the family members closer to the crown get more attention than those further down the list

I hate tell you this but His Royal Sleaze Prince Andrew when young was the best looking of the lot. Very handsome and cute. Of course now he looks like Dorian Gray's picture in the attic and looks 10 years older than Charles. But that picture of him skinny dipping when he was in the Navy which seems to have been scrubbed from everywhere was very nice.

R153 You mean this one? Not scrubbed. Not impressive either.

Of course doing interviews with Oprah totally helps keeping the press away. 🙄

Edward chose the James Bond cameo for the Olympics as his favorite memory of his mother. I understood why people think he's gay when I saw that.

I'm not a size queen and I don't need six backs or a gym rat so to me he looks like a beefy sexy young animal to me then and now in this photo.

R157 I have met him in person and he was very unattractive. Very small (short), shrivelled somehow. Confident though. I don't get the appeal, honestly. This wasn't recent either but 21 years ago.

Charles is bigger than Andrew...

R159 Charles and Anne's father is definitely Prince Philip so he must have got that from him. It's kind of an open secret that Andrew and Edward have different fathers, which is why they look so different.

First time I've heard of this open secret. Who is the suspected father? And do you really think the Queen would have in the least risked scandal to have been sleeping with another man? Though I do agree with you they look different.

R161 Lord Porchester. Prince Philip had a lovechild as well. Open secret. Philip's will was kept secret for that reason. The Queen and Philip seem to have had an agreement, unspoken or not.

Funny thing about Andrew, if he hadn't become such a lazy fat slob he'd still be a looker

The Windsor is strong with both Andrew and Edward

R164 Except when you look up Lord Porchester and Baron Patrick Plunket, you can see the resemblance in Andrew and Edward respectively too...

R158, Who did you meet in person?

I don't see the resemblance but it is clear she was very close to both men. But there is no resemblance to Philip either. Maybe her lovers worked in the stables.

R151, Which two were you unaware of?

R166 You can't work it out? Andrew, obviously. He presented me with a prize at the Royal Geographical Society and then there was general mingling with wine.

Andrew was though the best of a homely bunch, which can only have boosted his unfortunate blend of engorged ego and stunted brain.

If it is Porky, that makes Eddie's half-brother the current owner of Highclere Castle (Downton Abbey).

Monarchy is nothing but artifice and ritual. Of course the medals aren't "fake," but they also carry no meaning outside of the monarchy that created these "honours" out of thin air. His mummy literally pinned then on him. They're as real as a "World's Best Son" coffee mug. These people wear uniforms without service and put crowns on their heads because people let them. It means nothing and the BRF is just a pack of grifters living on the dole, nothing more. How stupid that the people of the UK let them.

R171 The rumour is that Edward's father is Baron Patrick Plunket and that Andrew's father is Lord Porchester.

R7, Philip was good-looking thanks to his mother Alice, maternal grandfather Louis of Battenberg and paternal grandmother Olga Constantinovna of Russia, but there was enough ugliness in the Danish/Greek royal family to understand that he was very much an accident - especially if we take into account that several of his sisters were trolls themselves.

Elizabeth was never, ever, ever pretty, let alone beautiful. Her father and grandfather could be best described as awkward-looking, and her mother put a capital P on 'plain'. Also, the entire Battenberg/Windsor family have inherited Mary of Teck's monkey face, whose own mother Mary Adelaide of Cambridge, looked like Benny Hill in drag.

If the subsequent generations of royals are ugly, it's because there has never really been much beauty in the majority of royal families.

R174 Haha, one of the reasons I can appreciate the royal family is that unlike the majority of celebrities you get totally ordinary-looking people in those positions just because of their birth.

R169, Your describing him as unattractive and short prompted my question. Andrew, at 6 feet tall, has never been described as either, especially 21 years ago. You must be confusing him with someone else.

The problem isn't that they are ordinary-looking or even ugly, R175. The problem is that they are not intelligent or talented, and their behaviour isn't any better than that of a bunch of chavs who get drunk in the pub on a Saturday night, and end up in bed with anyone who says 'yes'. One would expect that their education would amount to something more than developing a plummy accent but, sadly, that seems to be the whole extent of it all.

The truly preoccupying thing is that this isn't something exclusive to the Battenberg/Windsor family. The truth is that the members of most royal families are not only lacking in the looks department, but they also end up coming very short in the brains, talent, class and decorum departments.

R176 I can 100% confirm that Andrew is nowhere near 6ft. In person he is very short. Probably about 5ft6 or 5ft7. I know that he claims otherwise but it's simply not true. If you don't believe me, how about you check out some photos of him with other members of the RF. William and Harry tower over him.

Thanks r173.

A little inside detail on baron Plunket.

R179 Here's the Maul on Patrick Plunket, hinting away.

"A former guardsman who captured the Queen's heart spent 25 years by her side and was a rock to her when her marriage hit hard times.

Patrick Plunket had been close friends with Her Majesty since childhood, and was one of her closest confidants.

He was eventually appointed as Deputy Master of the Household, and royal author Christopher Wilson says no man has even been that close to her - apart from her husband Prince Philip.

Patrick inherited the family title at just 15 from his father Lord Terence Plunket (right), 6th Baron Plunket, here with his wife and eldest son at the Fourth of June Eton celebrations in June 1937

Patrick inherited the family title at just 15 from his father Lord Terence Plunket (right), 6th Baron Plunket, here with his wife and eldest son at the Fourth of June Eton celebrations in June 1937

Writing in The Sun, Mr Wilson told how the pair were so close that in 1975, when the bachelor died from liver cancer aged 51, she was so distraught she ordered a royal funeral for him at St James's Palace.

A memorial temple was then built to him in Windsor Great Park, and she is still a regular visitor there were she pays her respects.

Patrick's father, Irish peer Lord Plunket, had been a close friend of Elizabeth's parents, then the Duke and Duchess of York. His mother Dorothé was a half American heiress.

But they both died in a plane crash in 1938 when Patrick was just 15-years-old and he inherited the family title.

A memorial temple was then built to Patrick Plunket at Windsor Great Park, and she is a regular visit to the temple to pay her respects

Plunket was often photographed by her side, including here when she opened Calder Hall, Cumberland, the world's first full-scale atomic power station

In World War Two he served in the Irish Guards, then became an equerry for Elizabeth's father, King George VI.

When Elizabeth became Queen, she appointed him Deputy Master of the Household.

Plunket's cousin, Lady Annabel Goldsmith, told The Sun: 'He adored her from the outset.

'They enjoyed a very special connection. He was the one member of her staff who could talk to her on equal terms.

'There was an openness and honesty between them based on respect, friendship — and a lot of teasing.'

In 1956, when Prince Philip went on a world tour for four months, Plunket helped her cope with being alone.

The tour of 1956 put pressure on the marriage and reports started appearing in the US press about a rift. But Plunket was by her side throughout the crisis.

Lady Goldsmith said: 'He was tall, impeccably dressed, with a voice full of merriment and his eyes crinkled up with laughter.'

Philip finally came home and the royal marriage was rekindled.

And royal biographer Charles Higham added: 'He was slender, handsome, with thinning, dark hair and aristocratic profile.

'The Queen was very fond of him, very probably in love with him.'"

The Queen’s father was very good looking. Better looking than Philip and also better looking than Colin Firth, who played him.

The Queen was not as good-looking as her father, but was an attractive young woman.

George V was also handsome.

Both the Queen and her sister were pretty when young. I don't see how you can't see it. They could rock a tiara.

The Queen has always been plain in my opinion.

I think the Queen was very attractive.

[quote] Everyone knows that Princess Anne was the best choice of the four to be the new monarch, not Charles. Her demeanor and attitude is just like her Mama's

You’re wrong becauseAnne also has the temperament of a CUNT! She got that from ME!

Well I'm sure Elizabeth l and Queen Vicky would vie for top spot in any cunt competition. And Charles is a prick. Personally I would take a cunt any day.

I kept reading how Princess Margaret was the beauty... I googled and was very underwhelmed. Plain is a great way to describe them all.

R187 Margaret was one of those girls whose beauty was social. She was fun to be around, and more glamorous than "pretty."

But she was also an attractive girl.

R187 Haha, Margaret is another one I have met in person. Can confirm that she seemed brown, small and shrivelled in person as well. Nothing notable. She came to my school and I was in a home economics class. She came in a helicopter that landed in the school's playing grounds and we were given Union Jack flags to wave about. She was accompanied by some man in full uniform with a sword swinging by his side (I don't know who he was - anyone know?). And she smoked. She had the staff room to smoke in. Which was hilarious because nobody was allowed to smoke indoors.

r177 [quote] The truth is that the members of most royal families are not only lacking in the looks department, but they also end up coming very short in the brains, talent, class and decorum departments. [/quote]

Do drop by sometime.

R181, Philip Mountbatten was gorgeous.

R188 Nope, I got nothing glamorous or attractive from Margaret in person. She probably traded on her royal status her whole life. V. unattractive and boring in person in my honest opinion.

R189, Gee, everyone you allegedly meet appears small and shriveled.

Have you been checked for cataracts?

R193 I think it must be genetic. But have YOU met those people? DL is full of people who haven't even met them.

R193 I'll tell you which member of the RF that I've met who wasn't small and shrivelled. Princess Diana. Yep, I've met her. She was tall, glamorous, wearing a red dress and the most charismatic person I've ever met.

R178, Don't think so, luv.

R196 What does that prove? That Harry (slumped too) is a bunch of inches taller than Andrew. You need to be more convincing than that!

Prince Harry is supposedly 6’1”. I don’t know if Andrew is 5’7” as the OP says, but he’s certainly a good four inches shorter than Harry.

Here’s another photo. I think Andrew is 5’9” or 5’10”.

The rest of those Windsors must be 4'9" for Andrew to tower over them even hunched over

Obviously I can't be sure -the only way would be to have him stand against a measuring tape but I would be willing to accept 5ft8 as the maximum for Andrew. Princess Margaret was tiny and very short so I would guess that the Queen is too. Just look at the picture of the Obamas with the Queen if you're unsure.

[quote] [R187] Haha, Margaret is another one I have met in person.

R189 Who are you that you are meeting all these famous people?

R202 Honestly just an ordinary Brit who got some awards.

^^ Do you have medals, too?

R204 Zero medals.

@r201, Would you like to speak to the manager of height?

Prince Andrew, Duke of York, KG, GCVO, CD is a member of the British royal family. The third child and second son of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, he is eighth in the line of ... Wikipedia

Born: February 19, 1960 (age 62 years), Buckingham Palace, London, United Kingdom

Spouse: Sarah, Duchess of York (m. 1986–1996)

Children: Princess Beatrice, Princess Eugenie

Siblings: King Charles III, Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex, Anne, Princess Royal

***Height: 6′ 0″***

Full name: Andrew Albert Christian Edward

R206 I strongly disagree with that. It's just not true. He is not 6ft. I would swear my life on it.

Yeah, he’s not 6’0”. Unless Harry is lying about being 6’1”—and why would he lie if he were taller?—the pics don’t lie.

People who argue with facts because they "feel" the truth is different are NUTS 🤪

Take it up with the official royal site... I'm sure they'll see it your way 🙄

R209 The official royal site is wrong. I am 100% sure. It's naive that you think that royals can't be susceptible to vanity heighting.

^ I bet you think Trump won, don't you?

R211 No, I think that Biden won.

^ But, but there are a lot of people who feel that Trump won, so it must be true

R213 But it still is not factually true. Trump lost and Biden won. Just as despite that he claims 6ft, Andrew is still factually at least 3 inches under that height for sure!

Here, take your feelings to the people responsible for the misinformation. Let us know how you make out 😂

Public Information Officer

Buckingham Palace

London SW1A 1AA

Tel (during 9am - 5pm (GMT) Monday to Friday): (+44) (0)20 7930 4832. Please note, calls to this number may be recorded.

R215 as if they would take notice (I think very much not).

^ Your grade school teachers must have loved you...

"2+2 = 5, I just know it. I don't care what my math book says, I just know I'm right"

😂

R217 Says someone who has obviously never actually met this liar (Andrew) in person. Did you see the Emily Maitlis interview with him? I expect that you believed everything he said. You believe that he medically can't sweat despite paparazzi pictures showing sweat patches. You believe that he never even met Virginia Roberts despite a photo with her. It was all fake.... Likewise you believe that he is six foot tall... despite photographic evidence suggesting not...

Unicorns are real, see I even have a picture... 😂

R219 The unicorn here is Andrew thinking that he's 6ft.

R207 is full of shiite.

R221 No, not full of shit. Full of truth. I have met the man and seen himself for myself. 100% not 6ft.

I love this. I will argue this to the death and am enjoying it because I just know 100% for myself because I have actually met him and experienced him and know that he is nowhere near 6ft. So I feel very confident. This a bunch of people who have never met him who are wedded to what he claims of himself - even when he is fairly obviously a liar. Weird, really.

R222 has also met Cleopatra, Helen of Troy and Joan of Arc.

R224 Nope, never met any of those people. But I have met Andrew and know that he's under 5ft9 at max. Aw, shame for you. You've never met him, have you? You simply trust what the Royal page says about him. Naive fuck.

Well, there were some pics posted on here that show Andrew is much shorter than Harry. So it isn’t just this one poster. And I totally don’t believe anything that was no doubt approved by Andrew for his web site.

I .. honestly I would SWEAR in court that he's 5ft8 max. It was almost shocking how short he was. And he was extremely confident, standing buck straight. Very very straight, so zero slumping.

^^ Maybe he forgot his elevator shoes?

Andrew has confidence for sure. 100%. He has tons and tons of confidence. That's what I noticed. But he's also very short and ugly. There is almost nothing attractive about him in person. If you saw him in the street you'd look away instantly. He looks hot in some pictures but in person it isn't there. I am telling you the truth. I guess that's why he had to use Epstein to get girls, and married Fergie.

Prince Charles is/was 5'10. The same height as Princess Diana was

Andrew is taller than Charles

Getty images photo of Andrew and Charles circa 2005

2005 photo

I have never met Charles so I can't comment on him but based on meeting him, Andrew was definitely under 5ft 9.

Charles was the same height as Diana. It's a fact and it was released back in 1981

You are mistaken about Prince Andrew's height

No, you can keep claiming otherwise but I actually KNOW this for a fact because I have physically experienced it. Diana (whom I have met) was 100% taller than Andrew.

Even celebheights (who have never met these people themselves) thinks that Charles is 5ft 8.5 and that Diana was 5ft9.5.

No, you can keep claiming otherwise but I actually KNOW this for a fact because I have physically experienced it. Diana (whom I have met) was 100% taller than Andrew.

Even celebheights (who have never met these people themselves) thinks that Charles is 5ft 8.5 and that Diana was 5ft9.5.

Keep dreaming that Andrew is 6ft. It just simply is not true and never has been.

^ Give it a rest you crazy lunatic Frau. No one cares what you think. You're wrong and you sound like an idiot

R236 So says someone who obviously hasn't even met these people in person.

R236, I’m not OP but there’s no reason to insult anyone over a disagreement. You can be wrong too you know.

Here are some photos of Diana and Andrew. Andrew appears to be just a tad slightly taller than Diana.

"Elizabeth was never, ever, ever pretty, let alone beautiful."

She was slightly pretty in photos as a young woman, and I suspect that she and Margaret were quite pretty in person. The camera loves angular faces and tiny noses, but those girls had beautiful complexions, soft features, big blue eyes, and great figures. They were probably looked smashing in real life.

The Queen was never beautiful, or pretty. She was plain. Why do people want to argue otherwise? Because she's the Queen, I suppose - but it still doesn't make it actually true, does it?

She and Margaret were pretty, in the way that, really, all young women are pretty.

Would argue that she still wasn't pretty. She was pretty fugly even at 25. It's just the fact that she was the Queen that clouds people's perspectives. Try to imagine her as a dirt poor nobody and see how pretty/beautiful you find her.

Now, now Margaret and Elizabeth were every bit as pretty as Eugenie and Beatrice 🙄

I think Elizabeth was pretty.

Nah, the Queen was legitimately fug but most of you are actual fraus. That's why you believe that Andrew is 6ft too. Jeez.

Now you're saying 6ft too? Make up your mind. He looks 6 ft, but not 6ft 2

I see posters have brought out the F-word… each side accusing the other of being a frau, thus confusing the rest of us.

Records show that Jeffery Epstein was 6ft tall... Maybe Andrew really is 6ft 2 🤔

I agree with r246, Andrew is every bit of 6ft 2

R247 I have met him and he's 100% under 5ft9 at maximum. He is likely 5ft 7 or 8. Yes, people may bring out pics of other royals but I will tell you that they are likely shorter than what they claim. Don't trust the official claims.

R249 Absolutely not, based on my experience. Andrew is SHORT. For real. At this point I honestly think that there are so many lies and misconceptions which all disappear when you actually experience a person for real. Please tell me about how you met him in person.

@r249, Are you sure that's Jeffery Epstein and not a fake?

^ Pretty sure that's Epstein, but I think that's a fake Andrew, Andrew is 6ft tall, the guy in that picture is 6'2"

[R46], Agreed. I get the tradition and history, but this is 2022; we are not equals if I’m made to walk behind you.

The entire idea of a monarchy and a line of succession precludes the entire idea of equality whether it is 2022 or 1066. The older son of the monarch HAS to be more important than the second son, because he is heir to the throne and the second-in-line is now only fifth in line and will likely never inherit it.

Harry can NEVER be equal to William because he is the second-born. Nothing can change that in a monarchical system of primogeniture, no matter how much the rest of society changes.

I am baffled as to why you and others cannot understand that. The only way to change it would be to do away with the monarchy entirely--now, that may be what you ultimately want, but then we would not be watching them on television.

[quote] He has a tough line to tow if he wants to be back with his family.

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

This thread is getting full of people who have never met Epstein in person. It's laughable.

To change the conversation a little, look how far the might have fallen! This is from the last balcony appearance before Covid, and Andrew has a better spot than even Charles.

People who have never met Andrew in person too. People who just have no clue.

I know Epstein, he's every bit of 6' tall

The guys wear medals the way the women wear jewels.

I have a call into Ghislaine, if anyone knows she does. We'll just wait to hear from her

Jesus, I mean, wow. Andrew was fucking small to me so imagine how small Charles and the Queen must be. I will say that I experienced Andrew to be about 5ft6 or 5ft7. That's my honest opinion.

I called Fergie, but she said it'll will cost me a bottle of scotch for the answer. So I hung up 😠

Andrew is old enough to have lost height for age-related reasons.

Wait, Fergie just called back. It's still going to cost a bottle of Scotch, but she did say that she would NEVER let a guy 5'7" even suck her toes

I met Andrew... He's at least 7 feet tall

According to this picture I would say Andrew is only 3 feet tall

R265 Oh please, the biggest way I know that he was short is that I was taller than him. I remember him standing bolt straight but still having to look up to people. He. Was. Tiny. V. Short.

I love that practically nobody believes me that he's short. But he is. He really is. Just don't believe the bullshit you read.

Hi, my name's Virginia and I'm 5'5"

R269 Hmm, I'd say that's 3 inches taller?

^ Can I borrow your ruler? I always wanted a 10" dick 🙄

R271 You're saying that I'm being generous?

🤦 Um, no, you have a ruler where 6" = 3"

Now do you get it? 🤔

Nope, I don't. P.S. Andrew is still not 6ft.

The Queen was not pretty in pictures. But supposedly when she was younger she had flawless skin and big blue eyes.

I met Andrew, he almost ran me over in his Range Rover while flipping me off and screaming, "PEASANT!"... He's definitely 6'2"

I saw Andrew follow a 12-year-old Asian girl into a bathroom at the Pizza Express in Woking. He was definitely 5’9”.

^ That's because he was bent over grabbing her ass

I just cannot accept anything over 5ft 8 at this point. I'm convinced it's 5f8 or under, Sorry guys.

I love this picture...

Andrew = 5'7"

Chuckles = 5'4"

Queen = 3' 9"

😂

R28 is now blocked.

^ I’m late to the thread.

[quote] I had no idea the Queen had 2 more children. How come they can stay private and Harry and Meghan are in the press 24/7?? Makes you wonder ...

No, what makes you wonder is how someone like you could be so dense as to not know how many children Queen Elizabeth II had. Do you live under a rock?

Elizabeth was pretty, not beautiful.

I saw her in middle age, up close (totally by accident, just happened to pass as she was doing a walk about). Even then, she was attractive. She had the most beautiful complexion/skin I have ever seen. I can only imagine how luminous it was when she was young. She was also very tiny, and not overweight.

As for Andrew and Edward, given their children have features from Philip’s family, there is no chance anyone but Philip was their father.

The queen was never pretty. God, royalists are so dull and predictable.

Yes, she was. She also never wore makeup, other than lipstick.

The comment about her skin is true. I saw her when she was in her 70s and her skin still had a glowing quality.

It’s not absurd royalism to acknowledge she was above average in looks until she reached late. middle age. People grossly exaggerate how unattractive she was and grossly exaggerate how attracted Diana was. Neither was a fashion model.

R287, Diana was stunning. A lot of it was her height, as well as her comparing favorably to her peers, who were decidedly not models. Nevertheless, she really was a beautiful woman.

Oh so stinking.

^ stunning

Diana was a handsome woman. She was very well put together and she wore clothes better than anyone else. She had a great presence. Facially, though nowhere near stunning or even pretty, unless we’re going by British standards.

I disagree, r291, she was very pretty facially as well--maybe not model-worthy, but she was conventionally very pretty.

"People grossly exaggerate how unattractive she was and grossly exaggerate how attracted Diana was."

Diana was fantastically photogenic, and the Queen was not. The Queen was probably incredibly pretty in person when she was young, with her lovely skin and big blue eyes, but while women with soft features and irregular noses can be pretty in person, the camera loves angular features like Diana's.

Diana had the real movie-star charisma, the camera fell madly in love with her and she dazzled in any kind of filmed media, so of course she became a star in the media age. She was probably very good-looking in person as well, if not model perfect, but well. Being photogenic was the only advantage she ever had over the queen.

Photographed from certain angles, Diana's nose was too big.

To the claim from that moron last evening who insisted Prince Andrew was 5'8", this photo refutes that.

As does this one . . .

^ He doesn't believe in facts, so there's no use trying

Andrew looks at least 10 years older than his actual age.

From all the pictures I've seen of Elizabeth and Margaret when they were young they are pretty in all of them. Saying all young women are pretty in their way would be to say all young men are good looking in their way and we know that isn't in the least bit true. A lot of young men are homely. Youth is not enough.

R295/296 Those pics don't refute it. Harry is clearly a few inches taller and Charles has to be tiny. The Queen and Margaret both were; they must have got it from her.

The Queen was horse-faced her entire life. Of course a bunch of gay royalists on DL are falling all over themselves to proclaim how "pretty" she was.

Re: height, I actually think that one of the issues is that so many men lie about height and that the average height is actually shorter than what people think it is in most countries. So they see Andrew and see someone who looks like normal height to them (the average male height in the UK is 5ft9) but because so many men lie, they perceive it to be 6ft.

Look at how little the Queen and Philip look next to the Obamas. We know that Barack Obama has been reliably measured (by a White House physician) as 6f1, correct? We can pretty much infer from this picture that Philip and the Queen were likely both significantly shorter. So then you can look at photos of Philip, Andrew and Charles and see that they look about the same height. Also, Andrew has truly excellent posture - he always stands up very straight - while Charles does not.

The only truly 'tall' members of the immediate RF are William, Harry and Kate, Diana (when she was alive) was definitely tall for a woman. I met her and she was tall and glamorous. I would not say strictly beautiful but 100% bucketloads of charisma and presence.

r303, I would imagine that both the queen and Prince Philip got much shorter as they aged. Prince Philip was supposedly 6'0" when he was younger, and he does look fairly tall in younger photos.

R304 You are right that people usually get shorter when they age but I still don't believe that he was tall. I think he looked tall next to the Queen. And that his sons aren't tall either. They are all average or below average height. I don't know why this is so hard for people to believe either. I've encountered Andrew and physically seen it for myself anyway, so it's the hill I'm going to die on.

Pics with Diana were routinely staged to make Charles look taller than her when they were about the same height (approximately 5ft8). For no reason but sexism (man must be taller) but it shows how images get manipulated. Diana would be sitting on a chair, Charles on the armrest, or Diana would have to slouch. Then when they got divorced Diana stopped giving a fuck and started wearing heels which made her 5ft10 or even more.

I love this one - the photographer had Diana sit on some kind of metal or stone post so that she would look shorter than Charles. Another trick they used was to photograph them on steps - Charles standing on a higher step than Diana behind her.

She was attractive, but not a beauty for the ages. She looked like somebody who might be a news reader in Indianapolis.

^ For a Brit she was a supermodel

R308, But, her nose!

For a Brit, she was a supermodel.

For an American, she would have been a famine survivor.

The Royal Family is just as freaking petty as DataLoungers.

🛃 [bold] No Uniform For You !

The hair really did Diana no favors.

Royal families are ugly and stupid because they do too much cousin-fucking.

R314, yes, the pic at r308 shows unfortunate hair. But her hair at other times, especially after her divorce, was much better.

She looked her best after the divorce.

R317 Wasn't she finally getting good sex from that hunky surgeon and that hairy Dodi fella?

R318, The sex with James Hewitt must have been good.

R164 that wasn't from 2022. More like 1982.

[quote]Well I'm sure Elizabeth l and Queen Vicky would vie for top spot in any cunt competition. And Charles is a prick. Personally I would take a cunt any day.

Except one of these Queens was much better educated and a wonderful wit.

Diana was stunning, no wonder she became the most beloved human being in the world and outshined Charles everywhere. Charles certainly doesn't have to worry about that with Horsemilla.

I know we've decided that Harry is not Hewitt's son but damn in those pictures of R319 Harry's features come through.

The royal "we"?

You queens are something. If someone finds someone pretty or beautiful, respect their opinion. But no, you have to challenge their opinion. STFU

Is there a medal for abdicating from the Royal Family? Because of the ones shown that's the only one that would count.