Jacob Elordi IS Elvis Presley!

So most people are so unfamiliar with Elvis they'd never know he wasn't British and 7 feet tall.

I'd rather they do this as a Lifetime movie with Lindsay Lohan.

I hope they cover her cementface saga

It's basically a grooming story, why on earth would either Coppola or Elordi sign up for this?

Elordi and Spaeny are the same age. And they look it.

Elordi is a cutie.

He looks nothing like Elvis.

R1 He's Australian, not British. Also, what does a place of birth of an actor has to do with a character they are portraying?

British and Aussies are better at sounding Southern than American non-Southerners

Do we really need another Elvis movie?

Love Sophia's cinematic style but weird casting for Elvis.

Was the recent Elvis movie so profitable that it warrants another one so soon?

[quote] Jacob Elordi IS Elvis Presley!

Elvis? More like El Vez amirite?!

Why, Sofia? Why?

I hate the concept that every famous man's female relatives or partners must have their stories told. It's true that there are some fascinating figures who were overlooked, but many of the ladies are just boring! Why not find an overlooked women who actually accomplished something or has an interesting story instead of one who happened to wed a famous man? Or am I wrong, and she is actually an interesting figure?

Sofia is impossibly pretentious.

Lol bish is landing one role after another. Must be another fag doing casting couches

Bish?

Well, I hope Jacob brings some big dick energy to Elvis.

Elvis said he had to ask his buddies if he could go down on Cybill Shepherd. That's not BDE.

Flop.

[quote] Elvis said he had to ask his buddies if he could go down on Cybill Shepherd.

You mean how to?

[Quote] You mean how to?

Not how. Whether or not it was permissible.

R15 I agree completely, but I think people now would prefer a story of a woman allegedly being victimized by a famous male star than a story of an overlooked woman who actually did things. I’ve no doubt they’ll dwell a lot on Priscilla’s age when she met Elvis.

I mean I adore the Naked Gun films but aside from that? What story is there to tell?

The issue the film will have is if they decide to aim for realism and portray Priscilla as a very young girl who was basically sold by her parents to Elvis, an adult man ten years her senior. It will put Elvis in a bad and dry scrutinizing light. This will piss off Elvis stans intensely. But it could also help the film with the notoriety. I doubt Priscilla and Lisa Marie will approve of this because they depend on the Elvis propaganda train for money.

God, who did this casting? Neither Spaeny nor Elordi look a thing like Priscilla or Elvis. Plus, do we really need this film?

The only resemblance that Eldori has to Elvis is that he's tall, dark and handsome but that's what makeup is for.

[quote]Also, what does a place of birth of an actor has to do with a character they are portraying?

A lot. Norma Jeane wasn't Cuban, so this should be a shit show.

Hollywood is really out of ideas. This will just increase scrutiny for the cancel Elvis crowd.

Ten years ago, Lana Del Rey would have been perfect. Adam Lambert as Elvis too.

Are there still Elvis stans? I thought most of them died off by now.

R31 He's still pretty big with working-class white people who raised their kids on his stuff. In The South, there's still a lot of veneration towards him. But overall the fans skew older and rural

R31 He’s gained a lot of new younger fans. This fancam of him on TikTok has over 145k likes.

If this movie portrays Elvis as an abuser and Priscilla as a victim I don’t think she’ll appreciate it. She doesn’t view herself as a victim of grooming even though most people do. And she clearly still loves him despite his faults.

You think they're going to focus on abuser/victim when they cast people who are the same age? Elordi doesn't look "mature."

Jacob is a fan of Elvis and even dressed up as him and Priscilla for Halloween with Kaia Gerber, aka Austin Butler’s girlfriend. I don’t know if he’d take on the role if it completely demonizes Elvis. But I’m guessing the movie will show his darker side.

He'd probably take on any role to work with Sofia Coppola.

Even dressed up as Elvis he looks nothing like Elvis.

R28 Who gives a fuck that Marilyn Monroe wasn't Cuban. I wouldn't even know that the actress portraying her is Cuban if you didn't mention it. She's a young white woman in a blonde wig. It's called acting.

Actors don't need to look 100% like the person they're portraying. Makeup is for that. Angela Bassett didn't look like Tina Turner and Charlize Theron didn't look like Aileen Wuornos either. Now the actors in biopics should be young and not too tall though. It's harder to make old people look younger and tall people look shorter. Jacob is actually too tall to be a Hollywood actor.

R40 Well he can always fall back on modeling or OF then.

Jacob Elordi isn't good looking enough to model. And he pretty much has one expression in pictures.

Jacob can stick to being a TV actor where height doesn't matter as much. Soap operas hire his type. He is fine at being a model if he's just a regular casual, underwear or sports wear model. He's definitely not a fashion model who are usually not goodlooking anyway, just skinny and striking.

Spaeny is fine playing wistful and naive teenagers but she lacks range and looks nothing like Priscilla. She also lacks the physical assets that would make one suspend disbelief that this skinny little girl would appeal to Elvis. Elordi is a one note actor. Granted, he plays the hell out of that note on Euphoria, but the casting for this masterpiece seems totally random and somewhat bizarre.

I hope this has very explicit sex and nude scenes.

^ masterpiece?

Someone a lot wiser than me said don’t complain, don’t explain, r46. This is me doing just that.

R15 = ghost of Laurence Olivier.

She was better than you could ever dream of being, bitch, suck it up!

Is this from the same man who wanted to give us Julia Roberts as Harriet Tubman ?

"If this movie portrays Elvis as an abuser and Priscilla as a victim I don’t think she’ll appreciate it. She doesn’t view herself as a victim of grooming even though most people do. And she clearly still loves him despite his faults."

At that time, and especially in the culture Elvis was from, their relationship wasn't that unusual. In the 50s, most girls married right out of highschool. Elvis' dad when he married Elvis' mom was around Priscilla's age when she met Elvis.

People shrieking about grooming and victimization are looking at it through today's lens. None of the people involved, including Priscilla, see or ever saw it that way.

" even though most people do"

Most people do not. Most people don't think of it that much, and if they do, it's thought of as a romance.

I didn’t realize Pricilla was sophisticated and international until I saw the movie, she wasn’t some barefoot backwoods pregnant by 15 hillbilly like I assumed from all the worry over her age.

R8 this might come as a shock, but Australians ARE british, and hold a british passport. King Charles III is King of Australia

R8 this might come as a shock, but Australians ARE british, and hold a british passport. King Charles III is King of Australia

But who is King of the World? Leonardo Decaprio?

"Australians ARE british" This must be the dumbest thing anyone has ever written in this board.

R49 No. Sofia Coppola is a woman.

Are Canadians (at least the non French ones) British too? I don’t think I understand how the commonwealth works? What about Indians, from India?

King Charles III IS king of Canada, but the Indians have managed to get rid of them a long time ago

[quote] I don’t think I understand how the commonwealth works

no one does, but it still means that the BRF rakes in the £££

How do Canadians have booth the Queen and Loons on their money, and will it now all need to be updated? That sounds quite expensive. And will Charles pick a different Canadian spirit animal for his money?

R0 I agree. I just noticed Elvis gets singled out for this in particular when it was more common than you think. Roy Hamilton, one of Elvis’ idols, married his wife Myrna Hamilton when she was 15 and he was 25. Muhammad Ali, one of Elvis’ good friends, married his wife Khalilah Ali when she was 17 and he was 25.

How do you guys think Sofia will portray their relationship tho? Will it be nuanced or lean heavily into the abuser/victim angle?

R51 Gen Z was trying to get people to boycott the Elvis movie because of his relationship with Priscilla.

Jerry Lee Lewis got national backlash for his marriage to his 13 year old cousin. It may have been more acceptable in poor rural Southern parts but not in urban and middle-class America. Most people didn't marry until their late teens or early 20s after they finished their secondary education. An adult man dating or marrying a preteen was not that socially acceptable. Maybe someone in their later teens like 16 or 17. But 13 or 14 was too young.

I think Jerry Lee Lewis got more backlash because it was his cousin. Roy Hamilton married a 15 year old and it didn’t negatively affect his career.

I won’t defend Elvis for his predatory behavior or being a shitty husband, but he married Priscilla when she was 21/22.

Elvis was gay

I kinda wish Elvis married Ann Margret. It would’ve been better for his legacy, plus they were peers and more age appropriate. I wonder if she’ll be featured in this movie.

No, Thanks

Ann’s still so guarded when she talks about Elvis. Clearly he meant a lot to her.

R56 I know. Australians don't even sound British. And culturally they are their own thing. It's like saying Jamaicans and Indians are British.

Jacob should play Cary grant instead

I thought Jacob was a James Dean fan. He should’ve tried to play him instead.

Wait, what’s the story about Ann Margaret and Elvis? Did he visited her in Sweden or whatever Scandinavian country she hails from?

James Dean was 5"1 or something

R75 That seems like a non sequitur?

Someone said it should be illegal for a non American to play Elvis and I agree.

R77 Yes, cause Elvis was God, right? Get the fuck out of here

Ann-Margret is tricky. She's mostly ridiculous, but I've watched a movie (and I don't want to talk about it much, nobody can give me back the two hours of my life wasted in front of that turd ) called THE RETURN OF THE SOLDIER, with the ever delicious Alan Bates (reason I watched said turd) ans she was better than Julie Christie AND Glenda jackson, who are no slouch in the acting department.

R78 No, because he was such an American icon. The Brits and Australians just don’t have that All American swagger.

I watched the TV movie based off Priscilla’s book and Elvis came off terribly in that movie. I’m kinda surprised Priscilla supported it.

Considering Jacob is most famous for playing a violent psychopath, will he play Elvis the same way?

[quote] Considering Jacob is most famous for playing a violent psychopath

Isn't he more famous for his hunky naked photos ? has anyone seriously seen him in anything, much less ACTING ?

R83 Euphoria is a very popular show.

r84 Is it ? ok. I thought he was mostly a talk show/instagram sensation

he's very beautiful, but because of the DL craze, I watched an interview of him, and he seems a bit dumb, less pretty when in motion, a little 'tard in the face, and does he not have a speech impediment ?

R63, no one boycotted it. You just want to whine about "Gen Z"

R61, there's a difference between 14 and 17.

And how did he get "singled out" when people still slobber over him and the movie treats him like a hero (and goes out of its way not to mention how old she was when they started dating)

R50 must have missed the movie, which whitewashed their relationship and did not even mention how old she was when they started dating

So who is "shrieking about grooming" and what does girls getting married out of high school have to do with a grown man dating a 14-year-old who is still in school

Look, if non Americans can play Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King Junior, then I have no problem with them playing Elvis. Hell, even Cate Blanchett played Phyllis Schlalfy!

Most parents wouldn't allow their daughters to marry at 14 even back then. The only justification is if the girl got pregnant or in Elvis and Jerry Lee's case the suitors were wealthy. Age gap between Elvis and Priscilla would not have been that bad if he met her at 17 or 18 as she would have been nearly grown. Contrary to popular belief most women back then got married in their 20s.

I’m taking over the production and Harry Styles will play Elvis, I will play Priscilla. We’re righting the wrongs of history.

R89 R90 Baz Luhrman is an Elvis fan so it’s not surprising he didn’t want to portray Elvis in a bad light in a movie he directed. That doesn’t mean people don’t call out Elvis for his penchant for adolescent girls. There are so many articles and videos about it, and now a whole movie will be made about it.

R88 How do you know Muhammad Ali didn’t meet his wife before she was 17?

R87 There was literally a viral Twitter thread about Elvis’ relationship with Priscilla and how you shouldn’t watch the movie. It was created by a Gen Z Michael Jackson fan who urged people to support him instead.

People pick and choose who to call out for predatory behavior. Frank Sinatra slept with Natalie Wood when she was a teenager but no one calls him out.

I’m not defending the bad shit Elvis did. He was a fucked up individual. I’m just sick of the moralizing about it. The guy is dead. What do you want me to do, dig up his grave and lecture him for being a groomer? Priscilla still supports him too.

Priscilla didn’t see Elvis for another two years after they met in Germany. I believe she moved in with him when she was 17/18.

R99 I think the movie went straight from Germany to marriage, that leaves a lot out.

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Prince was a groomer too but no one really calls him out for it.

Baz’s movie isn’t concerned with who Elvis was as a person. It was more about Elvis as an icon and phenomenon.

R100 The movie fast forwards in time. It plays Viva Las Vegas while showing Elvis and Priscilla getting married.

And like I said earlier, the 1980’s Elvis and Me TV movie portrays Elvis in a terrible light. It’s not a glorification at all.

JH’s do their own weird, cultish marriage things like the Mormons.

:[R50] must have missed the movie, which whitewashed their relationship and did not even mention how old she was when they started dating"

Definitely saw the movie. It didn;t mention how old Priscilla was because in the end: it's not. that. interesting. And it's been covered before. Many times.

IN the film, it's understood that she's the young/too-young teenage daughter of an officer. Which is true, and how everyone at the time thought of it.... WOuld you have preferred a 2 minute diversion? A lecture about age differences and what's appropriate/not approprioate? Clearly you would have.

Now Priscilla is in her golden years, set for life, nothing to lose, shouldn't she be the one to say: what was the harm done? Is she shrieking as loudly as you are about how she was victimized? One wonders why not...

" So who is "shrieking about grooming"

Many people. Several on this thread. You, for one.

"and what does girls getting married out of high school have to do with a grown man dating a 14-year-old who is still in school"

Shriek, shriek, shriekk. The understanding at the time was that young men were being prepared for careers that support familes, young women for marriage and child-bearing. In ELvis' culture, as in many worldwide cultures of that time, women married and bore children as young as 13. Not saying it was right, or great, but our understanding of people of the past, at a certain point, must be colored by an understanding of their world. That's all.

R107 Most Americans did not approve of that in the 1950s. It was only in rural Southern communities where religion is so intense that teenagers were getting married young to avoid sexual sin. Jerry Lee Lewis got tons of national backlash by the press for his marriage. Southerners were seen as backwards and primitive even back then. Priscilla did not come from the hill folk culture that Elvis came from. Priscilla was allowed to be with Elvis because he was rich and her parents felt she'd be set for life.

"[R107] Most Americans did not approve of that in the 1950s."

People married much younger back in the day across the board. Girls were being prepared for marriage, boys to support families. A girl meeting her husband young, or marrying young, was considerably less shocking then than now. That's just a fact.

"It was only in rural Southern communities where religion is so intense that teenagers were getting married young to avoid sexual sin."

As I mentioned. Culturally across the board, women married younger then. People married even younger in the rural South, but that is not due to religion nor a stronger taboo against premarital sex. Premarital sex was taboo across the board in the US in the 1950s. It's a cultural difference between rural-urban areas. People married younger in rural Indiania than they did in New York City. It's simply an urban-rural divide, common to cultures worldwide.

" Jerry Lee Lewis got tons of national backlash by the press for his marriage."

His case was considerably different. She was very young. And his cousin. And he lied about her age. And he was already married to someone else, so he was a bigamist. And it was discovered that his marriage to his cousin wasn't even legally binding. It blew up because each piece of that story was discovered bit by bit by the tabloid press in Britain over a couple weeks in a way that was truly explosive.

"Southerners were seen as backwards and primitive even back then."

This seems beyond facile. It's a complicated region with many perceptions and depictions in popular culture. You should start by being aware that among the most popular images of the South at the time were Gone with the Wind and Streetcar Named Desire, ie a place of old-fashioned manners, faded refinement, etc. It's just too facile, taking your own perceptions and assuming they're shared by all people at all times in history.

"Priscilla did not come from the hill folk culture that Elvis came from."

Elvis did not come from hill country either, nor did he come from "folk culture," whatever that means. His parents came from the rural South, where people often married younger, as demonstrated by their own marriage. To apply terms like "grooming" and "victimization" to Elvis' parents marriage doesn't really fit imho.

"Priscilla was allowed to be with Elvis because he was rich and her parents felt she'd be set for life."

Like I said, girls married younger then. Most parents' highest ambitions for their daughters was that they would marry well. That's it. No career, no college. Most parents considered college for girls a waste of money since they would just marry and raise children afterwards.

Priscilla was certainly very young, too young, but she was also mature for her age and determined to be with Elvis. Parents matching daughters with husbands who would set them up for life was de rigeur, not some sinister thing unique to this situation. It was what her parents would have wanted/expected for her in a few years, to marry someone who would take care of her. We might not approve of such relationships or machinations now, but imagining this relationship was extremely sinister or evil or criminal or abusive is a bit much imho. But opinions differ, so carry on believing as you like, I guess.

Elvis was gross with terrible hygiene. I pity anyone that had to sleep with him.

^^ Not true. He was actually fastidious and practically pathologically germophobic. -

You can look at any picture of him and tell he was well-groomed and fastidious about his appearance.

If you're talking about his 'sad last days' of depression, illness and addiction, that's different. But generalizing that across his entire life is just tired queenery. Not funny or accurate, but do carry on as you please...

Why does Elvis have so many defenders? He has talented and influential but a fucked up person who was emotionally stunted. He's no different than any celebrity who gets a big head from fame.

America after it industrialized and especially after WW1 and The Great Depression extended childhood and adolescence. This was because of child labor laws and stricter age of consent became established around this time. After the Great Depression, children were encouraged and expected to go to high school either academics or a trade. This kept youth dependent on their parents until at least 16. This was also to remove competition from older people who needed work and also to stop exploitation of minors. The middle class expanded around this time and the idealization of the nuclear family and happy children and adolescents occurred.

If Elvis and Priscilla met in 1859, I'd understand because it was much different and child marriage was acceptable then. But in 1959, 13 and 14 was considered "teen-age" and was far less acceptable by the US middle class that was educated and Elvis'audience. Elvis was from a poor rural home where early marriage was accepted because secondary education wasn't prioritized. I understand why he didn't see the issue though I can't excuse his behavior as it was predatory and not this chaste innocent love. 14 year olds are too young to understand love and commitment. It's not believable that all of The US would have been casually accepting of this relationship had he made the courtship public in 1959. By the late 60s, Priscilla was an adult and they got married nobody cared and I'm sure a lot of people didn't even know when they met. But had the internet existed then and information spread out faster, I can see it being different.

"He has talented and influential but a fucked up person"

It's on the haters to explain why they can't accept that he's been the subject of worldwide interest for decades. He was singular, very unlike other stars of his or any other era.

And a person's faults make them more interesting, not less so. Why don't you name some of the artists/musicians/historical figures who are totally without faults who interest YOU.

R114 You're not making sense. I can separate the art from the artist. But I'm just not justifying grooming minors for marriage like some Elvis stans have been doing. Your use of "haters" indicates you're an Elvis stan who gets triggered people criticize your idol. Elvis had talent and yes he was influential but he wasn't a great person. Is that hard for you to say? Because you seem to be bending over backwards to make it seem like that's not the case. And everyone is flawed, famous or not. But why should someone get a pass for grooming a young teen because they made popular music? I like Michael Jackson's music but I acknowledge he was a pervert and child groomer.

I’m interested in the court of Louis xvi but I don’t feel the need to confront people with a moral judgment about the fact that Marie Antoinette was 14 when she married into it every time the subject comes up.

It’s not the most telling or interesting fact about that period or those lives, and it would be a bore to listen to someone try to color every last conversation or point about the person and the period by insistently repeating that Marie Antoinette was the victim of grooming and abuse. Different people, different culture, different time.

And for me, it’s not even really just a point about cultural/historical differences or what we approve of or don’t approve of, or whom we admire or don’t…. It’s actually just not. THAT. Interesting. In both instances, there are thousands upon thousands of fascinating and telling things about the period and the people involved. I merely tried to point out how facile, contrived and limiting I think it is when people insist THEIR terminology be given obeisance at every turn, and that everything must be seen through one particular contemporary lens whenever the subject is discussed. If that makes me a stan in your eyes, so be it.

In the end, the age difference at that time in that place for those people simply wasn’t that big a deal, including for Priscilla herself. It’s annoying to listen to people shriek victim and gaslighting and grooming anytime the subject comes up. That’s not how anyone involved saw it or sees it. I also believe that a woman like Priscilla can make determinations and judgments about her own life which should be respected. She doesn;t need or want a male savior to run around shrieking victim or Elvis the groomer for her, and I can respect and honor that..

Anyway, my understanding–and that of many many others– is different from yours. Accept it maturely, Try to pick up the pieces and move on.

I personally have never defended Elvis’ predatory behavior towards teenage girls or acted like he was a great person. He was a flawed person who did a lot of bad things and he put Priscilla through a lot. However I feel conflicted because I’ve also read about the good things he did and how generous he was to others. Most of the other women he dated and his female costars spoke very positively of him too. I just feel like it’s pointless to expect much out of the male entertainers of the past. Most of them were degenerates unfortunately. Cancel culture didn’t exist back then so it was easier for them to get away with behavior that wouldn’t be acceptable today. I mean there’s so many threads about Marlon Brando on here and his daughter Cheyenne accused him of molesting her. There’s also the Last Tango in Paris incident. If he did that today his career would probably be ruined. None of this prevents me from enjoying Marlon’s movies, I just acknowledge his flaws. The thing about Priscilla is she doesn’t view herself as a victim even though most people do. Who am I to tell her how she should feel? It was her life and relationship at the end of the day. People keep bringing up Jerry Lee Lewis but I provided the example of Roy Hamilton. He married his wife when she was 15 and he was 25. It didn’t ruin his career, so it’s not like every male entertainer who got with teenage girls was looked down upon even though they should’ve been. Prince groomed his wife Mayte years after Elvis did but it’s rarely brought up in relation to him. Heck Brad Pitt dated multiple minors in the 80’s and no one batted an eye.

I love looking at his profile.

R116 Blah blah blah. Big words. Priscilla just likes money. Elvis glorification pays. She helped build his posthumous legacy. He was a redneck with phenomenal charisma and talent. But I'm tired of his idol worship. He's not the King of Rock and he was every bit packaged as a product.

Elvis could sing. REALLY sing. Bonus - he looked good doing it while he was young. That's all it takes for me to like him, I don't care about the rest of it.

R116 How do you feel about pedaresty? If Elvis liked 12 to 14 year old boys would your perception change? I noticed there's a double standard here.

And using royalty makes your point weak as royal marriages are political and about forming alliances. Which is why they betrothed toddlers. Peasant girls didn't marry until their very late teens and early 20s. Menstruation occurred later back then due to malnutrition and girls had to help out around the home and the farm.

Who is idolizing Elvis nowadays tho? Marilyn Monroe is idolized, but Elvis? Other than Baz Luhrman, people are always hating on Elvis and calling him out for grooming Priscilla and appropriating black music. He’s regularly called a racist even though there’s no strong evidence of him being one. Elvis would agree that he wasn’t the king of rock n’ roll, he said Fats Domino was the real king.

Like Marilyn, he's the object of enduring fascination. Even the haters who insist he's racist, worse than Hitler, are ensuring he remains part of the conversation and part of the culture while other musical acts come and go, eventually receding from popular memory. It's retarded to imagine Baz Luhrmann is the only one interested.

Is a feminist take going to work, after Priscilla is suing Riley Keough for control of the estate?

If Cate Blanchette can be Bob Dylan, why not?

Another sexy fuck who should sit on my face.