Celebs you think are gay or bi but everyone believes to be straight? Part II

Finneas O'Connell ?

Maluma bi vibes

Justin Timberlake

Oliver Jackson-Cohen

Did the other thread fill up?

To the JLo poster, why would she date and marry Ben Affleck if she was gay?

What about Billie Joe Armstrong? He has said he’s bi in the past, but is he really bi or was he saying that to be edgy?

Whenever someone played a gay character on Will & Grace or The L Word it made me wonder. eg Cybill Shepherd, Jennifer Beals, Marlee Matlin, Bobby Cannavale, Patrick Dempsey.

R8 It's called acting for a reason. There were hundreds of actresses on L Word over the years. You think they are all gay?

R6 if she is, i don't think anything is going on with Leah. Like i doubt the clams wouldn't have tried to out Leah if she really was a lesbian/bi.

Why would a lesbian marry Ben Affleck?

Timothee chalamet

Eric McCormack.

Nicholas Galitzine (bi)

R10, when did the clams claim that Leah was a lesbian?

R15 they didn't. That's the point.

Leah Remini has the female equivalent of ‘Gay or European?’ … ‘Dyke or Jersey?’

Erik MCormack is a weird one. He was said to be straight and acted a gay man brilliantly but Will on Will & Grace is less stereotypically gay than say Sean Hayes' Jack which led some to think Eric was not believable.

Nathan Fillion

Christine Lahti.

R14 do you think? He gives me pretty straight vibes bar the fact he’s now done 3 queer roles.

I had sex with Casper in a 42nd St. video booth- so JLo is suspect.

R22 You also had sex with Mark Anthony and Ben Affleck?

R20 Why her?

R6, plenty of closeted lesbians marry men. I find J-Lo suspect because so many of her partners have been rumored to be gay or bi. There have actually been quite a few rumors about her - they just haven't gained traction because her obsession with marrying men overshadows them.

Also, her first husband said she was bi and that the honeymoon video he was trying to release showed her kissing girls. That to me is pretty telling...why would he lie about that?

Jenny from the block got rocks.

There's definitely sexual chemistry between her and Leah in the interviews I've seen. In one of them, Leah touches Jennifer right at the top of her thigh, with her fingers almost in her crotch. Maybe they're just very, very close friends, but it's a bit suspect.

R25 "plenty of closeted lesbians marry men" Where's your proof of that?

And who are these many partners of hers, that have gay rumors?

Ryan Reynolds

r28, is that a serious question? You don't think a lesbian who doesn't want people to know she's a lesbian might marry a man to throw people off the scent?

JLo's partners with gay or bi rumors: P Diddy (very widely rumored to be bi), Marc Anthony, Beau 'Casper' Smart. Partners who don't seem 100% straight: A-Rod, Cris Judd. That's most of her public pairings. I think only her first husband (the Cuban waiter) and Ben Affleck seem straight.

FWIW, I don't think she's a lesbian. I do think she's very likely to be bi (it's a weird thing for her ex-husband to lie about), although it's a bit strange she wouldn't just admit it at this point. She has always pinged to me, quite a lot.

Whatchu fuqqin talkin bout? That’s a buncha fuckin nonsense!

[Quote] P Diddy (very widely rumored to be bi),

Among other things.

r29 ryan reynolds is straight, his wife is pregnant! (blake lively) can be bi though i dont think so.

R21 he could be bi, he wore pride socks, he gives vibes that's for sure, he also doesn't give me straight dude bro vibes

Andrew Garfield, but the scum said he is gay without the physical act.

R30 "You don't think a lesbian who doesn't want people to know she's a lesbian might marry a man to throw people off the scent?"

No. Lesbian would be disgusted by sleeping with a man. Unless he is part of the secret. I doubt Ben Affleck or Marc Anthony would marry a lesbian out of the kindness of their heart. Never heard about Marc Anthony rumors. Doesn't he cheat on his female partners with other women?

[quote] the honeymoon video he was trying to release showed her kissing girls. That to me is pretty telling.

Has R25 ever met a straight woman? Or left the house?

Hetero women hug and kiss and touch each other platonically all the time.

r37 I don't think what was on the video was platonic. Apparently it was kissing with tongues and some spanking. You think her husband would say she was bi over a kiss on the cheek? I used to live in Miami and there were rumors there that she messed around with girls in her twenties.

r36 who said anything about sleeping with? Have you really never heard of bearding arrangements? You've never heard of a gay man and a gay woman having a sham marriage as a cover? That's why people think a woman who chooses gay/bi partners is likely to be gay/bi herself.

Marc Anthony is widely rumored to cheat on his partners with women and men. There was a Ted Casablanca blind about it back in the day, among other things. I think his relationship with J-Lo was genuine, I don't think either of them are gay, but bi? I can absolutely believe it.

OP, you’re going to trigger all the local fraus who believe that only .009% of celebrities are LGBT, and that there’s no such thing as bisexuality. I don’t keep up much with this topic anymore, but I certainly have a wish list.

Univision broadcast some snippets of that JLO/Ojani honeymoon video a few years back. Nothing outrageous but she came off a bit kinky in it...she flicked her tongue (as in miming eating pussy) at the camera with her mom sitting next to her, oblivious, and got on a motorcycle in a short dress with no underwear and flashed the camera. Not at all a stretch to think it also showed her with women imo.

R29 idc if RyRen is gay or not. I'm only worried about whether he can resist over-Americanising a proud Welsh football club.

George Hamilton.

I saw someone blaming fraus for not seeing that Bisexual people exist, well you , R41 are as ignorant and stupid as they are for calling Ryanren gay, he has kids, he is married. He fucks women. He could be bi, but I guess we will never know.

R43 you're mixing me up with another poster. I didn't say Ryan was gay, I said I didn't care whether he is or not (and for the record, I don't think he is).

So don't come at me with that hostile energy. I don't need that.

[Quote] and that there’s no such thing as bisexuality.

That's not a frau thing.....

r43 Oh my

r10 yes I did think that but there was also a story about how they were going to hurt Leah by going after J-Lo, and then nothing really came up. I'm sure they found plenty of dirt about her but for some reason they didn't put it out there. J-Lo's dad is a longtime Scient0logist, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Christy Carlson-Romano. Married to some kind of military man.

Clocked her when I was 8 watching 'Cadet Kelly'. She's at least bi if not febfem, trust. Young gaydar does not lie.

That being said I do also think she had something going on with Shia LaBoeuf in their late teens that messed her (and maybe him) up. Would make sense.

R38 You are forgetting one little thing, Ben Affleck isn't fucking gay. And a lesbian woman would disgusted by sleeping with him.

R48 Do you know what febfem means? Bisexual that exclusively dates the same sex. Christy Carlson-Romano is married to a guy and has s couple of brats. So no, she isn't a febfem.

"Young gaydar does not lie" This is the biggest pile of horse shit one can write.

R50 one can also marry and procreate without feeling soul-deep authentic romantic or sexual love. People have been doing it en masse for centuries. There are many reasons to marry and spawn, and dating/attraction often don't figure into the decision--it's more like family pressure, societal expectation and FOMO, fears of mortality or around loneliness, financial or social security, wanting to seem more mature, needing help with elder care, etc. etc.

Who says Christy doesn't cheat with women on the side, or quietly date women if she has an open marriage? Who says she married for love? We don't know these things, we just assume they must be true because that's the superficial narrative society pushes.

Armie Hammer. Or is he only a cannibal?

R51 Who says she does?

r49 do you have a reading comprehension problem?

I literally said I don't think Lopez is a lesbian. I think she's bi. So no, it's not surprising that some of her partners are actually straight men. I read many moons ago that she's sexually into men and women but emotionally only into men...don't see why that's not likely to be true.

Who is this poster arguing over everything? Once again, it’s people we [bold]think[/bold] are gay. No one has to prove anything to you!

Exactly r55. Some of the responses are plain weird, and naive.

R48 Hilary looks great, but she should have done this type of shoot back in the early 00s.

R48 How do you explain a husband?

Theo James. Either that or he's hiding something else cause he always tries too hard in interviews etc and seems acutely insecure and inauthentic.

Tom Hiddleston and Charlie Cox recently bought a house together and installed an extra large privacy fence to hide the backyard from prying eyes.

Tom's "fiancé" is not listed anywhere on the deed for the house.

R60 are they gonna live there or..?

Tom Hiddleston always gave me gay vibes , after he dated Taylor Swift, it was like a confirmation that he's definitely gay !!

R62 Why? Do you also think that Calvin Harris, Harry Styles and John Mayer are gay?

I’m really curious about the poster who’s arguing that Ben Affleck couldn’t possibly be gay because he has kids (or some shit), and JLo must be straight because no lesbian would ever have sex with a man. Could you please tell us a little bit about yourself?

Jennifer Lopez was very widely rumored to have participated in FFM threesomes with Diddy back in the day and Suge Knight allegedly had a sex tape of her getting down with a woman. Her first husband also claimed she liked women. I also noticed that when she was on Ellen a few years back, she had quite a bit of sexual chemistry with her to the point it was almost flirty. Why are people so convinced she's straight? She can want to marry men and have the 'traditional' lifestyle (she comes from a very Catholic Latino background) and still be attracted to women.

[Quote] I also noticed that when she was on Ellen a few years back, she had quite a bit of sexual chemistry with her to the point it was almost flirty.

Oh God, imagine the drama if those 2 assholes ever got engaged.

I could actually see J-Lo and Ellen as a lesbian power couple. They really seem to get along very well.

But would Jenny agree to give up her acting and singing careers for Ellen?

Why would she have to? Ellen isn't really working anymore, right? She can tag along.

Ross lynch ?

I have heard many rumors about kj apa what do you think?

R65 Because she has 28 ex-husbands

r72 the fact all her relationships with men have failed makes it more, not less likely that she's not actually straight.

R73 So, the more people of the opposite sex you fuck, the more gay you are? Elizabeth Taylor must have been one of the gayest people ever.

This thread is annoying. It's not clear whether people are deliberately missing the point or just incredibly naive. The entire concept of being bi seems to be alien to some people. As has been stated here already, bi women often marry men. It doesn't mean they don't ever sleep with women too.

R71 I think every CW actor has gay rumours.

Fabien frankel?

Garrett Clayton

R78 He's married to a man. WTF?

Why are so many celebs gay geez

Josh Lucas needs to be mentioned in every one of these threads.

J-Lo giving some serious butch vibes on the set of her new movie.

Sean Teale?

Kj apa maybe bi or only straight?

Apparently JLo and Leah aren't friends anymore. I wonder what they fell out over and if it's related to a possible relationship they had.

R85, where did you get that idea? They still follow each other on IG.

But you know who aren’t friends anymore? Colton Haynes and Shawn Pyfrom.

R59, Theo James is married to a woman, although that's obviously not proof of anything.

R84, KJ Apa has a child with his girlfriend, so who knows.

[Quote] But you know who aren’t friends anymore? Colton Haynes and Shawn Pyfrom.

Bad breakup?

r86, Leah didn't go to the latest wedding, and when they were both at JR Ridinger's funeral recently, they didn't interact.

Jesse Williams

[quote]Leah didn't go to the latest wedding, and when they were both at JR Ridinger's funeral recently, they didn't interact.

JLo has a wedding every year, maybe Leah just had other things to do.

[quote]Do you also think that Calvin Harris, Harry Styles and John Mayer are gay?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Do?*

R92 Oh, so you are delusional. Good to know.

[quote] Theo James is married to a woman, although that's obviously not proof of anything.

That's why they call if Gaydar. it sees through the external bullshit.

He may just be a sexist oaf with too much testosterone or prolonged coddling by women in his life cause of his looks.

I get the vibe that Affleck loves blowjobs and isn’t picky about who is supplying them once it’s past the witching hour

It’s hard for me to answer this as i am sensitive to the pings and have a pretty good track record for getting it right, but I just wanted to pop in and say that I am constantly amazed at how clueless the average person is about celebrity gossip (this is not a bad thing - I am far too interested), but when I discovered my sister had no idea that there were even gay rumors about Tom Cruise — it was my first insight into the mindset of “it’ll never play in Kansas”. Eye opener and not a good one. This conversation was about 5 years ago. 20, yeah okay maybe

I always assumed Ryan Seacrest was gay and out, but apparently he says he's straight?!

[quote]I had sex with Casper in a 42nd St. video booth

The ghost? How did you see him?

Sean Teale?

Maluma? Cute comment

I’m still on the fence about Kit Connor?

R102 He is bisexual, get over it.

How sick and twisted could you be that a pissed 18 year old would be lying about his sexual orientation to the world?

That you think*

R100

Anyone know about Maluma?

Thomas Haden Church.

Re J-Lo, those lez/bi rumors have been around for years but they never really went mainstream, which is weird. Her first husband said over a decade ago that she was bi and that he had video of her kissing women, and it still didn't really make the press. She denied being bi and claimed she'd never kissed a woman and that was that.

Her chemistry with Leah Remini was always off the charts...in one live stream she did, Leah said "I'm gonna grab your pussy" (not realizing J-Lo was filming) and their entire body language was very sexual and flirty. I remember an interview with James Corden where Leah was sitting with her hand resting on the inside of J-Lo's thigh...what straight women do that?

I've heard from many different sources that she messed with women in her 20s when she was living in Miami...why hasn't this come out? Why did none of these women sell a story?

This thread is died ?

R109 Is there a video of that live stream? JLo doesn't even have rumors on lesbian forums

r111 here it is is a short clip from it where you can hear Leah say "I'm gonna grab your pussy". There have been rumors about J-Lo and Leah on lesbian forums, just not as many as you'd think.

Who cares if that old hag is lesbian or not

R112 Thanks. There are no rumors about them on LChat

@r114 there were a few threads about J-Lo and Leah, J-Lo is mentioned several times in the 'Hollywood Closet' thread, and there was a little bit of discussion about Lopez's rumored dalliances with women back in the day, but not a whole lot. I do believe she is at least bisexual. I'm confused about why she hides it, given how supportive she is of LGBTQ+ stuff in general. If there was something sexual going on with Leah (and I really think there was based on their body language and vibe), I can understand not wanting to be open about it because Leah was married, but in general, why lie about it?

R115 What do you mean by at least bisexual? Since she's clearly not gay

r116, why clearly not gay? She can't pick a man for shit, all her relationships with men have fallen apart, and she has no chemistry with men, really. Why would it be far fetched to think she's a full-on lesbian? The only thing that gives me pause is she does seem head over heels for Ben Affleck, for some weird reason.

R117 Cause she's in love with Ben Affleck. This is her second time with him. And she had a ton of men before him. Lesbians aren't bad at picking men, they don't want men at all. Why would she marry all these men if she was gay? Obviously not for bearding purposes, cause then she wouldn't change them so often and would pick gay men, not famous straight men. Also, she has zero rumors, so it's not like she needs a beard

Tina Turner

R119 Why?

@r118, she DOES pick gay men. Casper Smart was caught fucking men multiple times during their 'relationship'. Diddy has gay/bi/DL rumors. The majority of men she's dated have been ambiguous or very obviously gay, but Casper Smart was extremely suspect, and it coincided with the point the J-Lo/Leah rumors were at their peak.

As to why a lesbian would do this - who knows? Bearding arrangements, being in denial, publicity...many possibilities.

For the record, I don't think J-Lo is a lesbian, I think she's bi. I heard years ago she's sexually into women but emotionally more into men. There was tea on a site like this pretty much saying the same thing.

R121 Yeah, but why would someone like Ben Affleck agree to be a beard for a lesbian celeb? It would make no sense. Also, none of her (ex)husbands have gay rumors, Cris Judd, Mark Anthony, Ben..

Jennifer Lopez's first husband Ojani said she was bi. Don't see why he'd lie about that, so it's probably true. She does ping a bit.

The only actors I wanted to be gay were Ryan Reynolds and Hugh grant.

Sadly they aren't.

[Quote] Casper Smart was caught fucking men multiple times during their 'relationship'. Diddy has gay/bi/DL rumors.

That boner photo of Casper will never not be funny to me. But Diddy is a whole other story, nothing but bad vibes from him.

Beany Fieldstein

Jonar Hill

Alexander Lincoln

Emilien vekemans? (Actor from Netflix series Bastard son & The Devil Himself

Kj apa?

Why so many day kj apa? He's got a child. Clearly interested in women he could be bi but what's the point?

r126 what's with Diddy? Been hearing gay rumors for years but never anything too concrete.

Jarompkin Delvlassis

Taika Waititi. I know he has children and is married to a woman, but he PINGS. I swear I thought he was gay and out when he first entered the scene. Also his ex-wife is now married to a woman.

Agreed. I'm not happy about it, he annoys the ever living fuck out of me, but there is no way that man is straight.

R134 Where did you get the info that his ex wife is married to a woman? I can't find anything online

Just look at the highlights on her insta page R136.

R137 Did they really marry or is it a joke? She's 46, that girl is 24

I don't know, but I don't think she would have it as one of her highlights if it was just a joke R138.

[Quote] what's with Diddy? Been hearing gay rumors for years but never anything too concrete.

I don't think we will ever see anything concrete unfortunately. But rumors of being physically and sexually abusive to men/women. Turned Usher out who went on to do the same with Justin.

[Quote] Taika Waititi. I know he has children and is married to a woman, but he PINGS. I swear I thought he was gay and out when he first entered the scene.

Taika is probably bi like Rita. But i did see a rumour he is hooking up with another Marvel actress on some new project they're doing together.

Definitely get a bi vibe from actor/Youtuber Rory Jennings. Perhaps from his friend and collaborator James Lawrence Allcott as well.

No-one has ever said this in anything but jest, as far as I know. The default assumption in the football fan community is that every man is Kinsey 0.

Oscar isaac?

R140 well there were some bi-rumours before he was mainstream and one datalounger claimed to have hooked up with him at Telluride (also before Thor 3).

Matt Smith

"[R117] Cause she's in love with Ben Affleck."

I don't believe that J-Lo and Afflect are in love for one minute. I think they have a mutual interest in publicity and being perceived as part of a "power couple", my guess is that they're two old friends helping each other out at a time when neither has anyone serious around. AND she gets an escort out of the deal, and he gets a minder. It's a win-win-win for both.

But fuck J-Lo and her youthful misadventure, tell me more about Taika Waititi! And Cate Blanchett, I've heard her long term marriage is as lavender as her gowns.

[Quote] and one datalounger claimed to have hooked up with him at Telluride (also before Thor 3).

I hope he wasn't coked up when it happened.

R145 You think JLo is gay? And no, Cate Blanchett's marriage isn't fake. Not even people on LChat believe that. Apart from a few crazy ones who still think she's with Rooney Mara or something

R147 is Cate Blanchett/Rooney Mara the LChat version of Timothee Chalamet/Armie Hammer?

Not a celeb, but a public figure...

Senator Cory Booker of NJ

Darcel Fillagriamente

r145 I think J-Lo is very much in love with Ben. I think he's the one who got away for her, the love of her life.

I also think she's into women...there have been plenty of rumors over the years of threesomes with Diddy and other women and her 'friendship' with Leah Remini was highly suspicious. Their body language screamed coupley and intimate. I think she is probably bi. I can imagine she might want to hide it because of her cultural background and fanbase. Lots of Latinos are very homophobic. Her mother seems very strict, traditional and overbearing too.

R151 Doesn't Leah Remini have a husband?

r152 she does but maybe she's also bi and plays with women on the side?

Josh Groban

Tony Tenulle

R63 I think what he was trying to say is that Taylor Swift is a lesbian

R156 He's delusional then

Scott Evans. I think he is ashamed that he likes vagina too and pretends to be gay.

Anthony Hopkins bi.

Sean Teale?

Leah Remini has come out with more stuff on $cientology. She's feisty and still very pretty. She definitely pings but she has been married a long time ...what's the deal there?

R159- Anthony Hopkins is not bisexual

He's GAYsexual

The guy who plays Vecna in stranger things pings to me. But he has a girlfriend..

R163, I know, I thought he was gay in Sweeney Todd.

Elijah Wood

Sandra Bullock

R165 Is the guy she's been dating for years, her beard?

Wow, R166. He's hot.

Certainly hotter than that biker she slummed with.

Camilo

Hank Azaria

Robert Downey Jr.

What's the tea on Marc Anthony? Watched him on Latin Grammys right now and find him strangely attractive. I remember some bi rumors from a while ago.

Jennifer Lopez was apparently dating women in Miami back in the 90s. Weird this never came out during the height of her fame...now I guess nobody cares.

R172 they do on LChat now. Surprised she hasn't got her own thread yet.

Alexander Skarsgard

Obviously Lennon and McCartney - two bisexuals who were in an intense on/off relationship from the time they were teenagers. If you look even a little bit into the history between these two men, it's glaringly obvious and rather sad.

There's been much talk about it and fairly reliable gossip at DL (and personally told to me once!) over the years, but the general public has severe blinders on and dismisses it as "fanfiction," which is mostly likely due to how strong both the PR narratives that McCartney and Yoko have created are. Some people believe that the two were never even FRIENDS in the first place!

Joseph Gordon-Levitt

taylor swift is well known lez, so is sandra bullock, hiddleston & cox: sweet.....

R177 Well known? Sure. Are you Nate Crnkovich?

R177 Sandra Bullock has a boyfriend. Was married to a neo Nazi before him.

Jorje Klooonee

Clayton Underhill

Joe Amamabibile - that bachelor guy.

Geegee smulepiditris

Why so so many people think Paris Hilton is gay? On here and on LChat.

R183 Who?

Pol Granch

R184 probably because of the photos where Paris is making out with Lindsay. Or when she was hooking up with Elisha Cuthbert while filming House Of Wax. Why is Paris being bi such a shock?

R187 I didn't say bi, I said gay. Many people think she is gay. No one thinks Lindsay is gay, and she publicly dated a woman. Or Elisha because of hooking up with her.

Same diff R188

R189 Yes, bi people in hetero marriages are the same thing as gay people.

Estinia Bainbridge

RYAN REYNOLDS, Ryan Reynolds Ryan Reynolds Ryan Reynolds Ryan Reynolds

R192, Ryan Reynolds definitely pings.

R192 he is straight!

Chris Evans bi Tom Holland bi

Rachel Recchia -lesbo

R196 Why?

Ryan Reynolds pings to the Andromeda Galaxy and back, and I suppose there's a faint possibility that he really is a straight guy with gayvoice. THey do exist, there was this gayvoiced guy at my job that I was quite sure about, until he left his wife for the woman he'd gotten pregnant and then had a few more kids with her.

But the fact is, Reynolds wants to be a mainstream A-list movie star, and he wants to make comedies for straight guys and superhero movies, and earn shit-tons of money instead of the pennies he'd get for making gay indies. If my gaydar is correct about him, well, I can see why he'd choose a closet with a glass door.

The ship has sailed to the north pole, R198. Not many people make their sexuality their whole personality or even prioritise it especially when they are NOT gay, he's married and has kids. he could be bi which we will never know, but you have to be all levels of delusional to assume that he is gay.

Ryah Seacrest

Is Ryan Seacrest really not out?

Didn't bunch of women accused him of sexually harassing them?

JLo pings to high heaven to me. I've always thought she came across butch, especially when not doing red carpet stuff or events. I'm surprised more people don't think so.

R203 they do on LChat.

R204 They don't. They just opened a thread for her cause info that some think she's bi was taken from here and spread there.

R203 Why would she marry Ben and Anthony then? It's not like they would agree to be beards.

R204 she doesn't have a thread on there. It was discussing on the Hollywood closet one (which randomly turned into talking about Henry and Chris). Someone asked if she should get her own thread and another anon said no because she's too old 🤣

r205 do you understand the concept of 'bi'? If she's bi, she's into women AND men. So no surprise whatsoever that her public relationships have been heterosexual ones. I heard back in the day that she was sexually into women but more emotionally into men. Completely possible that she has just fooled around with women casually but stuck to having relationships with men.

R207 You said she comes across as butch. Butch = lesbian, not bisexual.

I will never buy JLO, Affleck and Remini as straight -- also JLO faked her "pregnancy"

What makes you think she faked it r209?

R209 Now Affleck is gay/bi too? Jesus Christ

Michael Myers. Seriously in all the Halloween movies you've never seen him fuck a girl. Pretty suspect.

If they were lovers as you say R175 then Paul should've had more of a reaction when he found out about John's death. Look at this video, you would think they told him Lennon broke a nail. If someone I loved since I was a teen was suddenly, brutally murdered the last thing I would want to do is talk to the press.

As far as Ryan Reynolds, a long time ago I saw him at the after party for the premiere of that godawful John Travolta Scientology movie Battlefield Earth. It was at the time he was doing that sitcom, Two Guys, A Girl and Pizza Place, so I recognized him. He was hanging with a small squad led by, of all people, Kathy Najimy. All I can say is Ryan was very, very, very, VERY effeminate in voice and body language. Like...VERY EFFEMINATE. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Or that it necessarily means anything but, like, very effeminate...

R214 okay, we will say he's an effiminate guy who's married to a woman and has kids with her.

Matt Lanter

[Quote]okay, we will say he's an effiminate guy who's married to a woman and has kids with her.

Okay let's say he's a gay man who's married and has children.

Hardly unheard of The superintendent of schools in the town I grew up in in NJ was married with 8 children and was arrested for solicitation in the men's room rest stop off the Garden State Parkway.

Ever hear of Jim McGreevy married with 2 children who was the one-time governor of NJ?

Definitely NOT John Travolta! He was married with kids!!!

"If they were lovers as you say [R175] then Paul should've had more of a reaction when he found out about John's death. "

Okay, let's suppose that Lennon and McCartney were both bi, and had been in love when they were young, which I don't think it outside the bounds of possibility, during the Beatles years it was clear that those two adored each other. But by 1980, McCartney was in a happy marriage with a sane partner and had a ton of kids and a quiet life on a farm, he must have thought of John as the crazy ex he was lucky to be away from.

Never thought this would be a thread devoted to Jennifer Lopez.

Whatever happened to the supposed sex tape Suge Knight had of Jennifer Lopez allegedly having sex with a woman? Did it get destroyed?

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

R216 wasn't there a video of Matt jerking off? I just assumed he was bi.

[Quote]"If they were lovers as you say [[R175]] then Paul should've had more of a reaction when he found out about John's death. "

Theyn had been apart professionally and personally for quite some time.

Miguel bernardeau?

Mason mount?

I don't know if Ryan Reynolds is gay or not, but I have heard first-hand accounts that he's a real asshole.

R227 doesn't surprise me. Blake's probably no walk in the park either.

The guys from Good Mythical Morning.

R227 with that class clown personality, of course he is.

Clayton Underwood

Mark Wahlberg

Rege jean page?

LMFAO! John Lennon and Paul McCartney, taika waititi AND Ben Affleck are now gay? For real? Ok.

Rege jean page Looks like a half a dozen spry, lanky, well hung West Village men you’d meet 20 years ago at Sneakers, Pieces, or the Hangar.

Dwyane wade. It's so freaking obvious.

R236 What is Gabrielle Union doing with him then? She could have any guy she wants.

[Quote] She could have any guy she wants.

Gabrielle probably doesn't see it that way after being raped.

R238 Wut?

R239

R240 Thanks. Didn't know that. So you think she would beard for a gay man because she was raped? Doesn't make sense to me.

Lucas bravo?

I'm the poster that mentioned Jamie Campbell bower on this thread, I saw an interview of him with the guy who plays young Henry in stranger things pings to the heaven, the one that plays Henry in flashbacks, he pings to me, he must be gay. I also think Jamie uses she/her pronouns in real life and considers himself as a lesbian woman, he has a girlfriend irl, I guess he wants to transition, maybe his career is holding him back.

^ too many typos, sorry.

the Beatles were very opened about "having done EVERYTHING together", but maybe that interview never made it accross the pond ???

open (and opened)

Jesse Palmer

Duane Reade

All up and down this thread, the claim keeps being made that men cannot be gay if they have a wife and/or kids. I haven't bothered to check if all these instances are being said by one user, 'coz I don't really care.

But it's worth pointing out that Oscar Wilde, one of the gayest gays who ever gayed, was married and had children. Marriage has no bearing whatsoever on gayness, and never has. Nor does having kids. It's not a reliable indicator of straightness. So whoever keeps saying this, just cut it out, will ya?

Ryan Reynolds pings to me too. He always has. But someone on this thread is terribly, tragically invested in his total straightness. A frau? Maybe, but not necessarily.

On IMDb, there was a poster calling himself 'GayIthacan'/'GayIthacan2', who got terribly worked up and upset whenever it was suggested that Brad Pitt might have propensities. Bright poster, but for some reason this used to really make him lose his shit.

Dan Rather

Cher and John Travolta

John Travolta and Cher

[quote]R245: the Beatles were very opened about "having done EVERYTHING together", but maybe that interview never made it accross the pond ???—Seriously, America, you didn't know ?

It doesn't seem to be really widely known, regardless which side of the Pond, save to LGBTs, who tend to be more interested in that sort of thing. It's probable that the vast number of Beatles fans simply choose not to know.

But it's no secret here at the DL. There's been scores of threads about it over the years. Here's one:

Another 'Beatles' thread:

I always use Oscar Wilde as an example to the people who say "he can't be gay, he's married and has kids!" Even Oscar Wilde, of all people, had a wife and kids. And he was the gayest gay until Liberace came along.

I think Waititi is on the make for narcissistic supply, gender not a concern. I get a Roger Stone “come to my party, I’ll let you fuck my wife” vibe from his marriage to Rita Ora.

R255 You know he died 120 years ago? Things have changed a bit since then.

Cher?! If so why would she have been so freaked by how Chastity turned out?

Josh O’Connor. Bi. At least. He’s got a great sense of style.

Kristie Ally

Kristie Yamagoochie

Kristie Stewart

[quote] You know he died 120 years ago? Things have changed a bit since then.

Gay/bi people marrying the opposite sex and having kids, particularly to cover up/hide from/suppress their true sexuality has never gone away.

R262 Sure. But it's much rarer than in Oscar Wilde's time. Why even bring him up, when he lived 150 years ago. There were no out gay people then.

[quote] But it's much rarer

Somewhat, but not really.

R264 Not somewhat, A LOT! Especially in the western world.

[quote] Not somewhat, A LOT! Especially in the western world.

Nope. Don't underestimate how much this kind of closet still exists outside our more liberal/urban/gay bubbles, and particularly among the conservative/religious/"faith-based". Even a simple google search will blow your mind.

R266 No, a simple Google search won't blow my mind. If you are saying that things aren't that much different between now and 150 years ago, when there was 0 out people, you are insane.

[quote] No, a simple Google search won't blow my mind. If you are saying that things aren't that much different between now and 150 years ago, when there was 0 out people, you are insane.

How about reading a little more carefully next time. Of course we have come a long way in 150 years, nobody is doubting that, and yes, it might not be as prevalent, but it's certainly not gone. Not as much as we think. Especially if you come from fairly conservative/religious circles you'd know. And yes, google will tell you a lot. I remember stumbling on a very robust message board several years ago specifically on the subject of women who were dealing with their closeted husbands. Yes, it was quite mind blowing.

R268 I know what site you are talking about and it didn't blew my mind at all. Of course it's still a thing today, but to think that most of the gay people in the western world are married to the opposite sex and have children is insane. Yes, there's a lot of people like that but the ones that aren't married also outnumber them by a lot. Especially among younger generations.

[quote] I know what site you are talking about

Really?

[quote] most of the gay people

No one ever said "most".

Yes, unless there is more than one forum for straight folks who are married to gay folks. Ok, but it's not even a big percentage of gay people. Maybe among older generations that number is somewhat big, but not among younger ones.

Jesus Christ, we're still arguing this? LOL!

Even Oscar Wilde, of all people, had a wife and kids. And he was the gayest gay until Liberace came along.

R255 I beg to differ, dear boy.

R255 So do I.

Poor Oscar’s situation was uniquely complicated. Nothing I’ve read about him indicated that he was under any social or economic pressure to marry and have a family and he seems to have genuinely wanted and cared for his wife and children. He was like any other Victorian gentleman who kept his home life separate from his sex life, only in his case he used male prostitutes instead of females and had male lovers instead of mistresses. But even that would have been all right if he had played by the rules and kept it all out of the public eye.

Aaron Tveit. I used to read about twinks being seen leaving his apartment early in the morning, presumably having come home with him from the theatre on nights he was performing.

Nicole Kidman's ex and current husband

R276 do you think Aaron hooked up with Chace?

What's rarer in today's world isn't gay or bi men who marry and have kids, it's wives who'll put up with gay/bi/downlow husbands! Mrs. Oscar Wilde and her ilk could only grit their teeth and wait for the comfortable years of widowhood, today's women can file for divorce without stigma... if they can afford to.

And that's why IMHO the closet isn't going anywhere, not on the conservative and repressive areas of the world. Low wages and a high cost of living means that young people are more dependent on their families than they've been for a century, and if your average human has to choose between passion and truth on one side, and a low-cost or free place to live on the other.... they'll decide that passion and living their truth are luxuries they can't afford.

r278, cousinly love to the side, if each of them is homosexually inclined, how could they keep their hands off each other.

R280 and obviously while wearing their baseball uniforms.

R277 Why would she marry a gay guy?

Lez be honest R282 It's obvious isn't it.

R283 So you think Nicole Kidman is gay as well? You didn't mention her being gay in your original comment, for some reason, that's why I'm asking Maybe obvious, to you. Not to me. She seems very straight.

[quote] Mrs. Oscar Wilde and her ilk could only grit their teeth and wait for the comfortable years of widowhood, today's women can file for divorce without stigma... if they can afford to.

R275 Would anyone have blamed OsacrWilde's wife for filing for divorce, even then? He was publicly tried for sodomy. What kind of stigma would be attached to divorcing that guy?

*Oscar Wilde..

R285, in 19th century Britain and America divorce was considered socially unacceptable, especially for women. The fact that divorced people "weren't received" shows up in many books of the era ("The Age of Innocence" and "GWTW" come to mind), so anyone filing for divorce knew that their freedom would come at the price of being shunned by their friends at least, if not their family. And a woman who filed for divorce could easily lose custody of her children, or find herself left without a penny and shunned by her family.

People still thought of divorce as "breaking God's law", because whom God had joined together let no man put asunder... no matter what horrors the married persons had afflicted on each other. So yes, women like Mrs. Oscar Wilde might separate from their husbands, if he'd give them enough money to live on and allow them contact with the children, but most women didn't see divorce as an option, no matter who their husband was fucking.

R287 Actually the original tweet wasn't about dfivorce, it was about women married to gay/bi men having to grin and bear it until widowhood - but they could at least live separately. The Wilde trial was later than The Age Of Innocence or GWTW - closer to the 20th century. Divorce rates had gone up somewhat by then. But anyway - your point is well taken.

I don't think that living separately was an option for everyone in those days, R288, by law the husband would have control of the money and the children, and if he withheld both she'd have no option but to live as a poor relation or take up some form of sex work.

But there were lots of amicable separations, too, the spouses would live in separate houses if they could afford to, or the husband would go live peacefully at his Gentleman's Club, and leave the wife to run the family home and raise the children. You'd think that Mr. and Mrs. Oscar Wilde would have done that long before the Bosie scandal, can someone fill me in on the progress if their marriage?

Great biography of Wilde from a few years ago (2018).

I'm gagging at all this Lennon and McCartney talk. Young or old they were both gross😝 I'm more interested if Young Mick Jagger and Keith Richards ever did anything together. Those two were actually sexy when they were younger.

Young Mick Jagger and David Bowie definitely did.

D list Melissa Villasenor pings to high heaven.

R293 Weird that she never had a public boyfriend.

Jerry O'Connell

What makes you think that r242?

R243 So does that mean his girlfriend would continue to be with him when he becomes a her, because even though the girlfriend is happy going out with a guy (currently) who has a penis, she would be fine going out with a woman with a vagina? This stuff is exhausting.

R276 Tveit's life might be complicated. His brother is a Catholic priest.

R298 So?

bumpity bump...anyone else to add?

Who else?

Someone said Seth Meyers is a closet case.

Is this true?

Has J-Lo still not come out? The rumors about her have been swirling for years and years.

R302 who would say a thing like that?

R243 gurl what? Jamie Campbell-Bower is identifying as a woman? Now I've heard it all.

It's a pity, too, because I loved his performance in the otherwise execrable 'Will'. He played a very sympathetic but also realistically cunty and difficult and mixed up Christopher Marlowe (a man who loved being a man and loving other men, let us remember). I remember thinking as I watched that Jamie was beautiful and charismatic and popped off the screen, maybe a future star. Alas.

Is Ben Affleck bi?

P!nk

John Goodman

R306 the straights can keep him.

R307 Pink [italic]is bi[/italic]

Isn't Pink openly bi?

R11 to boost their public image and careers. As they grow older, it's better to be a power couple. They would get less attention as single people.

Then why didn't they stick together back then?

R312, apparently it wasn't helping their image. At least for Ben.

R311 I fully believe Jennifer Lopez is into women but I also fully believe she's truly in love with Ben Affleck. I think she was dating Leah Remini for years and once Ben came back onto the scene, Leah was shown the door, and that's why she and J-Lo aren't speaking anymore. Too far fetched?

I could well believe Leah Remini is a sister of Sappho.

Prince Harry.

R315 me too. So is her marriage a bearding arrangement? Her husband seems gay to me.

Josh Henderson

Oprah

Justin Trudeau-bi Wayne Gretzky-closeted

R318 obviously

So what's the deal with Taylor Swift?

Is George Clooney gay or does he just play at it for publicity to keep his name alive on social media by giving us all something to debate and chat about?

JLo and Ben not a real couple? I wouldn't have believed it until I read the other day that they don't even live together.

R324 I wouldn't want to live with them either.

Someone in another thread claimed to be pretty sure that Trey Parker is bi

Would JLo's career be impacted if she were openly bi/gay? I took a little look at some videos of her and Leah together to see what people meant, and I definitely see something there.

J-Lo? I think she would have been more popular with straight men if she'd come out as bi back in the day, but being bi wasn't as trendy when she was young.

What would her Hispanic following have thought about that, from the 1990s to now?

r328 I think a lot of Hispanics are still extremely conservative. Not so much Puerto Ricans like her (NY Puerto Ricans tend to vote Democrat and are socially more liberal) but Mexicans and other Latin Americans are very traditional and conservative. Her ex Marc Anthony is also apparently bi and maybe reluctant to publicize it for the same reason.

Joey Heatherington

Juan Martin del Potro (at least as bi). Back in his prime days he never pinged to me, but now he does.

Lupe DelGaza

So it seems pretty accepted that JLo and Leah were a thing. I've seen it on multiple threads here and elsewhere. What happened for them not to be a thing anymore? Did one of them get dumped?

R333 does it?

DL fave Brenton Thwaites… I think he is.

[quote] Nathan Fillion

You can tell from outer space.

JennLaw

LaGag

JoyBuli

R337 I saw someone who is convinced that JLaw is the actress Ellen Page hooked up with in her memoir. I think that’s bullshit but she might have had something going on with her former friend, Laura.

Laura Palmer?

[quote]Nathan Fillion

[quote]You can tell from outer space.

I've heard from people who happened across him heavily making out with some woman in an alcove at a sci-fi convention, so it seems unlikely to me.

R339 Simpson

Plus Nathan doesn't seem to have a problem with Adam Baldwin who bullied his gay co-star on the set of Firefly.

Right, R340 / R342. Because why would a mainstream actor with a huge frau following not want to present himself as straight and/or possibly be a Lincoln Lover? Maybe he's straight, maybe he's gay or bi. I have no skin in the game, but to me he exudes GAY! out of every pore and always has (going back to him daytime soap roots). This thread is about who we THINK is gay/bi but are generally perceived as straight -- so your replies pretty much confirm the point.

[Quote] Because why would a mainstream actor with a huge frau following??

Since when??

r334 there are quite a few threads on DL and other forums going back 10+ years about Leah and Jlo. I have no idea whether or not it's true but I could certainly believe it.

R344 - Who the fuck do you think kept "Castle" and "The Rookie" on the air? I'm certain he does not have much of a straight male fan base. Well, at least not straight men under 70. Older ones might think of him as that sweet bachelor roommate who's been sharing living expenses with his nephew for the last 15 years in Miami.

R346 his big break was 2 Guys And A Girl. His most memorable role is Firefly, i'd say Nathan has more of a nerdy fanbase than frau because of the sci-fi shows he's done.

[quote] Right, R340 / R342. Because why would a mainstream actor with a huge frau following not want to present himself as straight and/or possibly be a Lincoln Lover?

I would think in such a case the mainstream actor would be doing things like arranging dates with a willing starlet to publicity events where cameras are plentiful, not playing tonsil hockey with some random woman in a secluded hallway in the bowels of a convention center in the hope that they might be stumbled across by someone more influential than a few lost sci-fi nerds or the janitor.

Leah Remini was raised in $cientology and Jennifer Lopez's father is a $cieno. Maybe they had that in common and became friends. Leah Remini comes across as a good old fashioned tomboy to me but with too much Botox and a gaudy manicure.

Jennifer Coolidge I wonder about. She's never photographed anywhere with a boyfriend. Never. Went to the SAG Awards I think it was with her gay bff and that is very nice actually, but still. No fellows ever with her. Maybe she's just that private?

Justin Timberlake I truly find gay. Lance Bass did a documentary a while back about the boyband stuff and whatnot. I can't remember the title. Timberlake was so gay in the clips shown. Purses fell out of his mouth as a teenager. Anyone would have just quite naturally found him to have been a gay teenager just as innocently as innocently could be. Timberlake and Lance's mothers would take turns chaperoning their sons and worked together on that since they were both southerners. But, I really feel it was also because they knew both their sons were gay.

Timberlake was papped drunk and feeling up his female co-star a while back. And he's married, so spare me that the pap shots were to "in" him.

Jessica Chastain

[quote] Jennifer Coolidge I wonder about. She's never photographed anywhere with a boyfriend. Never. Went to the SAG Awards I think it was with her gay bff and that is very nice actually, but still. No fellows ever with her. Maybe she's just that private?

She said on Maron's podcast ath she "dated" Chris Kattan years ago.

I still believe Paul W. Downs is gay.

Michael Cimino(the actor) bisexual

I don't know. The fact that he's friends with that guy who sells his shits on OnlyFans... It's giving gross het.

Sandra Bullock

Bradley Cooper

Leonardi Di Caprio

Charlize Theron

Brie Larson

Jennifer Anniston

Lady Gaga

R349 they met through Jlo's ex, Marc Anthony, but I'm sure they had plenty to talk about with the $cieno connection.

Jennifer Ccolidge

Alison Janney

Beyonce. I get "I need some pussy" vibes from her. I am certain she's bi.

CERTAIN.

[Quote] Justin Timberlake I truly find gay. Lance Bass did a documentary a while back about the boyband stuff and whatnot. I can't remember the title. Timberlake was so gay in the clips shown. Purses fell out of his mouth as a teenager. Anyone would have just quite naturally found him to have been a gay teenager just as innocently as innocently could be. Timberlake and Lance's mothers would take turns chaperoning their sons and worked together on that since they were both southerners. But, I really feel it was also because they knew both their sons were gay.

What about JC??

[Quote] Beyonce. I get "I need some pussy" vibes from her. I am certain she's bi. CERTAIN.

Maybe? The rumours about Jay having threesomes with Bey and Kelly don't sound far-fetched. I also believe Kelly is bi.

R361, JC was always part of Camp Podwall.

How come JC never had kids?

What about Joe Jonas? Do people believe he is straight? What goes on behind the scenes with him and Sophie?

R362 he doesn't want kids.