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Tasteful Friends, what do you think of Jeffrey Epstein's former Paris apartment?

His apartment was on the very grand Avenue Foch (No. 22). Not only was he a horrible person, he had horrible taste in decor. The place is ugly and uninspired.

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by Anonymousreply 65September 6, 2022 10:06 PM

It should be burned to the ground.

by Anonymousreply 1September 5, 2022 4:42 AM

What's the gold thing on the floor? A drain? A heating vent? Bizarre.

Haha, R1. The real estate in this part of town is too valuable to do that.

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by Anonymousreply 2September 5, 2022 4:46 AM

Red, yellow and dark gray are a very ugly color combination.

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by Anonymousreply 3September 5, 2022 4:48 AM

Ugly and depressing.

by Anonymousreply 4September 5, 2022 4:52 AM

They forgot to include the staff quarters...

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by Anonymousreply 5September 5, 2022 4:56 AM

The spaces themselves are nice. The floor drain is worrisome. WTF? Child sacrifices? The decor is 80's and uninspired. Horrid color choices, art and furniture. Move out the shit, perform and exorcism, and redecorate.

by Anonymousreply 6September 5, 2022 5:01 AM

Come on, it's a nice apartment with some nice chandeliers. We're adults and can separate the man and some of the decor from the bones of the apartment.

by Anonymousreply 7September 5, 2022 5:02 AM

Straight guy…pervert, poor taste.

Shocking.

by Anonymousreply 8September 5, 2022 5:18 AM

The bones of the apartment should be excellent, R7. Very rich people live on avenue Foch. The Rothschilds and Jackie Kennedy and Aristotle Onassis used to live on this street. Let's criticise the furniture and the decor.

by Anonymousreply 9September 5, 2022 5:21 AM

I wonder how much he paid for the horrible "art" / toilet seats hanging on the walls.

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by Anonymousreply 10September 5, 2022 5:25 AM

Lol, R5. You've captured the essence of his style.

by Anonymousreply 11September 5, 2022 5:27 AM

I didn't realize Nina Foch was so popular in France.

by Anonymousreply 12September 5, 2022 5:29 AM

He deserved prison just for his awful taste in furniture alone.

[quote]“Of note with the skulls and brain tissue in Jeffrey Epstein’s Parisien kitchen. Epstein told some of his victims that he was a ‘brain surgeon.’ Takes on a new meaning with this insight into his belongings in one of his homes.”

Say what now???

by Anonymousreply 13September 5, 2022 5:30 AM

At least the green and blue drips on the wall can be painted over. So avant-garde.

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by Anonymousreply 14September 5, 2022 5:35 AM

R14- Lovely shade of baby diarrhea green.

by Anonymousreply 15September 5, 2022 5:36 AM

I especially like the room with the leather-quilted walls.

by Anonymousreply 16September 5, 2022 5:42 AM

Wall paintings must be done in the absolute best taste if they are to be worthy of fine architecture, this is not. It's more like childish embellishment, which, well, speaks for itself.

by Anonymousreply 17September 5, 2022 5:43 AM

Atrocious taste.

by Anonymousreply 18September 5, 2022 5:44 AM

I wonder if the leather quilted walls can be done in such a way that it looks elegant, R16. What Epstein did is definitely not it.

by Anonymousreply 19September 5, 2022 6:20 AM

A 12, 13, 14 or 15 year old girl would think this apartment was very lush back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 20September 5, 2022 6:39 AM

Avenue Foch is..... a mixed bag. Its not super convenient to anywhere a normal young person wants to be. In the oughts I lived in a ginormous 19thC hôtel particulier owned by a middle-eastern billionaire. It was decorated in high 80s neo art deco luxe mixed with a pastiche ersatz classical French decor. I loved it. I love the grand lifestyles of the nouveau riche. I suppose Avenue Foch has accommodated many successive waves of nouveau riche. In the evening there was an ancient streetwalker on the trottoir, styled straight out of Brassaï.

by Anonymousreply 21September 5, 2022 6:43 AM

Where do the old money types live in Paris, R21? Which streets or neighborhoods?

by Anonymousreply 22September 5, 2022 7:13 AM

Gray or silver tables and pillows with a peach sofa for a punch of color? Nope. Definitely doesn't work.

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by Anonymousreply 23September 5, 2022 7:16 AM

Probably where Jackie and Onassis lived in Paris. Wasn't Jackie old money from NYC?

by Anonymousreply 24September 5, 2022 7:17 AM

[quote]Avenue Foch is..... a mixed bag. Its not super convenient to anywhere a normal young person wants to be.

I'm sure this street is meant for very rich people in their 40s and up.

by Anonymousreply 25September 5, 2022 7:19 AM

R21 says avenue Foch is for the nouveau riche, R24. Was Aristotle Onassis nouveau riche? He's the one who bought the apartment or townhouse, not Jackie. I'm don't know much about the 1% crowd.

by Anonymousreply 26September 5, 2022 7:23 AM

Most of the photos are gone from the blog that OP posted, and the listing is gone.

by Anonymousreply 27September 5, 2022 7:26 AM

It looks like Aristotle and Jackie lived in the 15 room penthouse at 88 avenue Foch.

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by Anonymousreply 28September 5, 2022 7:27 AM

It still works for me, R27.

by Anonymousreply 29September 5, 2022 7:28 AM

Someone will gut the place of all incriminating dna just like they did with the last two properties.

by Anonymousreply 30September 5, 2022 7:33 AM

You don't get a 404 on the Sotheby's listing?

by Anonymousreply 31September 5, 2022 7:35 AM

I said Avenue Foch is a mixed bag. There can be "old money" mixed in with new because all money is new at some point in history. I lived in a 19thC mansion that had likely been built by new money. It was ostentatious, like a American robber baron palace of the same time in history.

by Anonymousreply 32September 5, 2022 7:37 AM

I can't tell you why some people can still get to the Sotheby's listing, but I realize now that the listing is from nearly a year ago, so it's probably been taken down because it was sold.

by Anonymousreply 33September 5, 2022 7:39 AM

You can read the history of Avenue Foch here. Like a lot of Paris, it is not ancient. For example, the same Arab billionaire owned a townhouse in Mayfair London, and Mayfair London is centuries older than the avenues leading to Bois de Boulogne.

by Anonymousreply 34September 5, 2022 7:42 AM

A gorgeous flat once you put that shit out on the curb and pry the marble from the walls. I'm only missing a balcony. Who are the neighbours?

by Anonymousreply 35September 5, 2022 7:44 AM

oh forgot the link

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by Anonymousreply 36September 5, 2022 7:44 AM

R2 is asking the right questions. Why the fuck is there a drain in that foyer or whateverthefuck?

I bet you can lift a tile in any of these rooms and find a drain to hose down the remains of ... well

What they hell, as long as they vote right

by Anonymousreply 37September 5, 2022 7:51 AM

The "drain" in the middle of the floor (see R2) is a heating vent opening. It rises slightly above the level of the flooring -- the exact thing you wouldn't want for a drain as you would have to brush and scrape all of the objectionable liquid and seni-liquid matter to the center of the room and then up into the opening to fall down. Very bad. A drain would have a very slightly (fairly imperceptibly) sloped down to the center floor and the drain cover itself would be flush or very slightly sunken to facilitate draining. And it would more likely be circular and more a bronze color than this garish ormolu looking heating grate.

It's a nice apartment architecturally, if you like that Arab Sheikh on Avenue Foch via Alberto Pinto look. Too Frenchy, too sheikh, too garish

Epstein seems to have been a man who liked to shock with his vulgarity. Recall the Clinton portrait and vistors' impressions of the interior NYC townhouse. He didn't bother with refinement, just bright and gaudy with vulgar touches everywhere.

by Anonymousreply 38September 5, 2022 8:10 AM

[quote]Who are the neighbours?

Probably Russian oligarchs.

by Anonymousreply 39September 5, 2022 8:12 AM

Probably a Junior High, Summer Camp, or Boarding School.

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by Anonymousreply 41September 5, 2022 8:36 AM

Yes. Epstein had unique taste. The interior of his New York townhouse is at R41. This is the first time I've seen the painting of Bill Clinton in a dress.

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by Anonymousreply 43September 5, 2022 8:41 AM

The library or study or living room from his New York home at R43 is garish but somehow it still appeals to me.

by Anonymousreply 44September 5, 2022 8:42 AM

[quote]“Of note with the skulls and brain tissue in Jeffrey Epstein’s Parisien kitchen. Epstein told some of his victims that he was a ‘brain surgeon.’ Takes on a new meaning with this insight into his belongings in one of his homes.”

Epstein had the soul of an artist, R13. Here's a description of his New York home:

[quote]In 2003 Vanity Fair said as part of a profile on Epstein: 'The entrance hall is decorated not with paintings but with row upon row of individually framed eyeballs; these, the owner tells people with relish, were imported from England, where they were made for injured soldiers.

by Anonymousreply 45September 5, 2022 9:20 AM

I love his taste in decor.

by Anonymousreply 46September 5, 2022 9:24 AM

R31, you don't need the Sotheby's listing. Photos of the interior of the Paris apartment are at the end of the The Steeple Times article in my original post.

by Anonymousreply 47September 5, 2022 9:39 AM

[quote]The library or study or living room from his New York home at [R43] is garish but somehow it still appeals to me. R44

The rug is spectacular. The rest...

The pair of varguenos or marquetry and ebonized cabinets on stands between the windows might be nice -- they might easily be fakes or repros, too, as this form was popular for both. They are described as 18thC Portuguese in Architectural Digest, but that's only to say that someone told the writer that's what they are.

The room itself, the main room of the house, is a lovely space (on the facade, the three windows spanning the width of the house above the main entrance.) But I fucking hate that parquetry panelling in the room, and the treillage doors with hideous Frenchy oval painted scenes on porcelain panels. There are comparative photos of the room ca.2012 and 2020, both under Epstein ownership: the first photo as designed by Alberto Pinto and the second presumably as redesigned by Thierry Despont. I would paint over that tiger striped panelling in a second...and then it would be a nice room. The marble chimneypiece was added when the hideous panelling was added; the earlier photo of Pinto's work shows a much smaller and simpler one.

At the link are also photos of the house when it belonged to Les Wexner. The architectural detailing had been extensively reworked but well I would say, and it was a handsome rather than a garish house -- with a Picasso or two instead of a painting of Bill Clinton in drag.

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by Anonymousreply 48September 5, 2022 10:12 AM

I think it is cursed, probably haunted, and not salvageable by even the most experienced exorcist.

by Anonymousreply 49September 5, 2022 10:15 AM

The disturbing portrait in the foyer of his New York house suits Epstein perfectly. Otherwise I like the room, even though it's a bit too ornate. It's like he didn't have much money left when he decorated his Paris apartment and he did it any which way on the cheap.

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by Anonymousreply 50September 5, 2022 4:35 PM

Surprised no one has mentioned the statue of the young man, yet. This is the worst part of the decor, IMO.

Yes, the floor grate is for heat, I think.

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by Anonymousreply 51September 5, 2022 6:46 PM

This dining room is nice. Chandelier or light fixture could be swapped out.

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by Anonymousreply 52September 5, 2022 6:48 PM

@r51, "Surprised no one has mentioned the statue of the young man, yet."

Why, it's this guy without the lampshade on his head

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by Anonymousreply 53September 5, 2022 7:27 PM

R53- Creepy.

by Anonymousreply 54September 5, 2022 7:38 PM

Wonder how many hidden cameras will be uncovered by the new owner's decorators.

by Anonymousreply 55September 5, 2022 7:47 PM

I actually prefer Epstein's version. Was it painted, or made of stone?

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by Anonymousreply 56September 5, 2022 7:49 PM

It would probably be a more interesting piece if it hadn't been done to death in many 50s American homes. I remember these everywhere as a kid

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by Anonymousreply 57September 5, 2022 7:57 PM

Yes, R55. I didn't follow the Epstein story that closely. I just found out yesterday that he would have hidden cameras all over his homes, hoping his guests would do something questionable so he could blackmail them. He was a fine, upstanding citizen.

by Anonymousreply 58September 6, 2022 12:43 AM

The leather room in Epstein's New York townhouse. Looks like a high end brothel. Maybe it's just me but I always think leopard prints are tacky.

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by Anonymousreply 59September 6, 2022 9:04 AM

^ It WAS a high end brothel 🙄

by Anonymousreply 60September 6, 2022 9:09 AM

But it was supposed to be a SECRET high end brothel, R60 😆.

by Anonymousreply 61September 6, 2022 9:23 AM

^ Don't worry, Andy, your secret is safe with us 😉

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by Anonymousreply 62September 6, 2022 9:27 AM

Matthew Steeples A graduate of the London School of Economics, Matthew Steeples is a writer and marketing consultant. He conceived The Steeple Times as a media arena to fill the void between the Mail Online, The Huffington Post and such organs as the New York Social Diary in 2012.

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by Anonymousreply 63September 6, 2022 9:29 AM

IMO all animal prints are tacky R59.

by Anonymousreply 64September 6, 2022 8:03 PM

Haha, R64. Too bad Epstein didn't choose a zebra stripe pattern for the chairs. Cla-ssy.

by Anonymousreply 65September 6, 2022 10:06 PM
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