Hillary Clinton at the Venice Film Festival

^ GUUUURL!

You're very generous, OP.

Another person who has to be on the world stage.

HRC is a beautiful human who has been raked over the coals because of her capabilities in helping the underdogs in the world.

Republicans despise intelligence and decency, it goes against their cruel and vindictive nature.

The argument was boring forty years ago. It hasn't improved with age.

Why is she wearing a bathrobe?

[quote] HRC is a beautiful human who has been raked over the coals because of her capabilities in helping the underdogs in the world. Republicans despise intelligence and decency,

HRC has been "raked over the coals" because she allows her husband to treat her like a toilet to shit on as it behooves him. If she had a gram of "intelligence", she would have divorced him LONG ago.

Hillary and Bill’s relationship is their own business. Stop fueling the Republican’s fire of hate.

She looks great. She's really been glowing in the last few years.

Looks her age and I dislike that shade of blue on fair skin people. Hills irritates greatly because she has been proven right on everything.

[quote] Hillary and Bill’s relationship is their own business

R8 It ceased to "be their own business" when Hillary ran for public office. She's a horrible example to both women and men.

She looks like a cow who's had face and dental work and is being carefully photographed from a distance.

Long hair never flatters her.

We need politicians in office who value their marital vows.

r4 lost touch with reality a long time ago.

[quote] We need women in office who value their self-respect.

Totally.

Absolutely.

Hillary and Bill's relationship is their own business.

Bill had an affair on the public dime while in office, and the public said, So what, and elected him again as POTUS.

Hillary didn't divorce him and the public has been blaming her and maligning her for THAT ever since.

Like, really.

Perhaps R20 can explain how a man cheating on his wife and a wife who is so devoid of self-respect that she not only stays married to him but attempts to mitigate his behavior is a DOUBLE STANDARD.

She has rhythm

It’s good that we get to see her all over the place.

Living her best life, unencumbered by anything.

Hate that she included that kardashian trash in her documentary.

[quote] Hate that she included that kardashian trash in her documentary.

More evidence that Hill is devoid of self-respect.

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I'm actually glad she is enjoying her life, enjoying her money and privilege (I really mean that.) She toiled, even though nobody forced her too. I just wish her bathwater drinkers would part with this absurd fantasy about her public life. The lady's moved on. Why don't you?

Ya can't buy self respect

Perhaps R22 ca try to develop reading comprehension before attempting gotcha questions.

To spell it out, the double standard is the public's attitude, here exemplified by R22. If Bill was exonerated by the public for having an affair while on the public dime and time, and then lying about that under oath, shouldn't Hillary equally be exonerated by the public for her perceived failing of "not divorcing him" ?

I love that picture, it says, "I'm old, I'm rich and I no longer care what anyone thinks of me" 🙂

Bill didn't have an "affair on the taxpayers dime". A fat attractive groupie sucked him off. For free. Willingly. More than once.

You don't understand this because this experience of having a sexual encounter with you willingly is beyond your comprehension and life experiences.

Taxpayers did have to pay for the extensive investigation into POTUS sexual encounters because that is how magats get down and off.

30 comments and nobody's mentioning she's wearing a DL staple?

That hairstyle in R23 really suits her. Sometimes I think she purposely tries to look as bad as she can in some sort of women's studies moment of rebellion. Nonetheless, I bet she's a cool grandma. (Cookie baking TBD.)

R32, and for the same reason we do!

Jeweltones suit Hill's complexion best, r32

[quote]Bill didn't have an "affair on the taxpayers dime".

Come again?

The OP mentions it, r32.

r31, your cuntiness seems wildly misplaced here. The person you're shrieking at isn't blaming Bill Clinton for anything.

Yes, bitch. Bill came into a willing sex partner. You don't understand this do you? Your life experiences preclude such knowledge.

R38.

You're so right.

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Amazing the HC still pressing people's buttons. I mean all these Clinton-obsessed concern trolls... they must all be over 60, right? Does anyone younger even care anymore?

She looks good, face relaxed, happy. I agree the light blue is a little washed out for her, for old folk.

I don't hate her. I wish more than anything she'd won in 2016. But that outfit just isn't appropriate. At best it looks like loungewear.

She should take a victory lap & wear a jacket like the one Melania wore, only it says "I told you bitches!". Trump would rage tweet for days!

^ ...

[quote]Yes, bitch. Bill came into a willing sex partner. You don't understand this do you?

Of course he did. You know I'm not r29, right? Are you stupid or are you just lashing out randomly because your daddy didn't give you enough hugs as a little boy?

And this...

[quote] If Bill was exonerated by the public for having an affair while on the public dime and time, and then lying about that under oath, shouldn't Hillary equally be exonerated by the public for her perceived failing of "not divorcing him" ?

R29 Perhaps attempt to understand the concept of "self-respect". The absence of which does not make for positive response towards a female candidate asking females (and males) to give her their vote.

Speaking of Melania...

"I am the most bullied person in the world"

"Bitch, please"

I want to hang this in Donnie's cell...

R47 is on a wild ride, folks.

It's pretty funny that someone who spends their whole day trolling online is screaming at Hillary Clinton for not having enough self respect.

Sadly,r43 Mr. Trump, a sitting pestilence of America had his Twitter account suspended (permanently) and Truth Social is finished.

To all you trolls on DL, Hill has a message...

R50 And it was that VERY off-putting lack of "self-respect" that lost Hillary the Prez election. TWICE!

R51 It's pretty pathetic that you have no response other than the juvenile, irrelevant deflection.

R45

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Deflect this

R56 More juvenile irrelevant deflection. No surprise.

When Hills lost the election, she offered a concession speech that very night.

When Trump lost the election, he called around to find 11,780 votes.

I'm sure there's a reason why a troll is using a couple of sockpuppets to derail this thread, but that reason probably only makes sense in her own little unmedicated mind.

But in the final analysis, Trump was President of the United States.

Hillary was just another loser. TWICE!

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Why is she there?

^ She was invited

But why, R63, is she being given an award?

Is she wearing a shit eating grin? 😁

Throwback Thursdays

Colorist did a really good job. Looks expensive.

She NEVER looked fabulous. She was always various degrees of frumpy.

She wore some good power looks in the first administration. Her inaugural gowns looked like they came from Arla-Jean's of Little Rock's. By the second term she was comfort eating.

HRC looks like Molly Shannon's mom in that photo.

It’s kind of sad to see so many people still suffering from HDS after 30+ years.

R15 - Yes, especially given Mrs C's speeches at $250,000 per to Wall Street bankers in their wood-panelled dining rooms, admitting that she hasn't driven her own car in so long, she no longer remembers how to drive, amongst other odd life twists that have put her "out of touch" with the way those Underdogs live.

Ah, yes. I'm sure she and Bill are enjoying retirement on recouped tens of millions, with their large colonial adjoining one with Chelsea and the grandkids, in lovely, leafy 91% white Chappaqua, NY. A town that still hasn't fulfilled its requirement to build "affordable housing" in exchange for Federal funding.

From the NY TIMES:

"CHAPPAQUA, N.Y. — Few places on the planet are as enviable as this Westchester County hamlet.

Stately houses are set on spacious, hilly lots shaded by old trees; its village center has gourmet restaurants and bakeries; its schools are top notch and its 9,400 residents have a median household income of $163,201, ranking the area roughly 40th among America’s wealthiest communities.

It is no surprise that Chappaqua is the home of a past president and perhaps a future one, Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton, as well as a Hollywood star or two.

But the hamlet — like many other affluent, overwhelmingly white localities across the country such as Garden City on Long Island, Wellesley in Massachusetts, Marin County in California and several neighborhoods in New York City — has been churned up by plans to build new housing for people of much lower incomes, including black and Hispanic newcomers. . . ."

As of 2019, the project had actually begun, but wasn't finished due to shoddy work by the contractor hired to construct the houses.

Bill's affair took place in the White House, which doesn't belong to him: it belongs, if I understand correctly, to the American people, much as Buckingham Palace doesn't belong to the Queen. She lives in it, but only stewards it, and can't sell it or rent it or earn personal revenue from it, as it represents the official residence of the Head of State.

If he wanted to keep his affair off the public grid, he should have found her a nice little flat in the burbs of DC. He insulted the American public, and sexually humiliated his wife, and embarrassed his teenage daughter so that she had to pull out of uni for a year.

Self-respect? What woman in the known galaxy sells her self-respect as a woman out for a political career on the coattails of the man who sexually humiliated her repeatedly throughout their marriage, finally doing so on the public stage?

The subject is Hillary Clinton attending a high profile event by invitation.

If the subject is not interesting why bother clicking on the link?

It is more than amusing that poster above doesn't consider being serviced sexually by a willing intern doesn't consider the relationship an "affair".

Is that something Bill learned in the wilds of Arkansas . . . "eatin' ain't cheatin'" (I think that's the idiom)?

The White House wasn't his to debase with his adulterous behaviour.

He betrayed his wife, his official standing, cost the Democratic Party some badly needed dignity, and by all odds helped Al Gore lose to George Bush.

So true, r73.

It is critical that we have a POTUS who respects what belongs to the American people.

Ah, I see the "whataboutery" trolls are out in force.

Trump has nothing to do with this.

Clinton's behaviour is on him, Trump's on him.

Clinton was a known serial womaniser, and his wife endured years of sleazy sex escapades on her husband's part because she needed him to succeed politically, so she could follow along behind him.

No matter what Trump or JFK or FDR or Henry VIII or Valery Giscard d'Estaing or King Juan Carlos of Spain did, the fact remains that Hillary turned a blind eye to Bill Clinton's serial betrayals and sleazy adventures for political reasons.

She sold her sexual self-respect for political gain. Unless she was a full-bore lesbian and privately it meant nothing to her, that isn't defensible as "self-respect". And in doing so, she enabled his sleazy behaviour.

There were a great many angry women at the time, especially those of Post-Babe age, who were livid at the risk the bellend took for what I recall one woman being quoted as how disappointed she was, "to see him falling for the soft skin, the adoring expression . . ." Every dumpy middle-aged woman with crow's feet felt directly insulted.

Feminists today admit they were wrong to give him such an easy ride just because he was the UnRepublican.

You can't run with the fox and hunt with the hounds, as we say here.

What about Stormy Daniels?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

What about Marla Maples asking the the mother of Donald Trump's children "I love your husband, do you"?

Still not locked up.

What about classified documents stolen by a civilian and left unsecured in a moldy strip club in Florida?

Potus must respect the property of Americans.

Another day

Another Hillary troll post.

I often suspect Muriel does these herself as they certainly get a lot of traction.

I mean, I would if I were her

Women used to be criticised for leaving a marriage. Now they are criticised for staying in one. Can’t win.

What about the mother of Trumps first born children being buried in a pauper's grave in the putting grounds of a gold course in New Jersey?

A fashion icon she's not, but she looks more relaxed and better.

Yup. R81. And Bill Clinton did not have to pay for sex. He had willing partners eager to suck it all down and keep it.

The attempts to bring up Trump are moronic. This thread isn't about Trump. The fact that Trump is a greater arsehole than Clinton doesn't absolve Clinton from being an arsehole himself.

Melania Trump never held herself out as a champion of women, only a champion of marriage as an easier path to lifelong security than working.

Hillary Clinton held herself out as a feminist. Whether her husband was fucking willing women or not isn't the issue: the issue is that she tolerated a marriage with a man who clearly demonstrated that he wasn't getting what he wanted at home in bed, that he didn't respect her enough to hide it, and went on doing it in circumstances that had serious consequences for their public image and, eventually, the nation and the world.

Clinton's feckless sexual behaviour IN the White House cost the Democrats needed votes that could have widened the margin. If Bush hadn't been elected, Iraq wouldn't have happened, the entire Middle East would look different, because the Iraq invasion pushed Iran into Iran's arms.

You know, for want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of the shoe the horse was lost, for want of the horse the rider was lost, for want of the rider the battles was lost, for want of the battle the kingdom was lost - all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

His behaviour was reckless and damaging. The fact that other occupants of the White House sucked isn't a sound defence.

[bold]Whatabout [/bold] the Mets?

The Mets and Yankees are both in first place in their respective division.

Do you think we'll see a subway series this year?

This sentence has something to do with Hillary sticking with Bill through the Monica thing

This sentence has something to do with Trump grabbing a pussy

What about that?

Washington crowd boos President Trump at World Series

r88. Michael Cohen told the panel that Trump helped engineer and personally reimbursed Cohen for an illegal hush-money payment to a porn star, then told him to lie about the arrangement. And he said the president indirectly encouraged him to lie to Congress about his pursuit of a potentially lucrative Trump Tower development in Moscow, even as Trump repeatedly denied any business interests in Russia throughout the 2016 campaign.

Buttery males!!

What argument R5

Pastels are unflattering for Hills, r92. Her unfortunate miscalculation in suit separates obviously cost her the 2016 election.

That and the whole Rusher Hacking votes thing.

What a fucking bunch of lame-ass trolls DL has. So far in this thread the worst thing anyone has come up with is...

Bill & Hill have a nice house in NY

Bill got a BJ in the Oval Office

😂😂 Aren't they awful? 😂😂

Don't look now, trolls, but someone said something nice about Meghan Markle in another thread

"Fly... Fly... Fly"

I know how to read, I learned to do so in elementary school.

The subject of this thread is "Hillary Clinton at the Venice Film Festival", not "Monica Lewinsky".

Dig Prissy McPrissyson at r73!

r77, I'm saying this in the nicest way possible...blow it out your fuckin' arse.

R77 is right.

@r77, "Hillary turned a blind eye to Bill Clinton's serial betrayals and sleazy adventures for political reasons. "

Her marriage, her choice. Whatever went on in the Clinton marriage is between them. Just as the Trump multiple marriages to multiple women is also between them. No one has the right to judge another's marriage... EVER

Hardly, r99. Their private lives are their private lives. National security was *never* affected. Anybody bringing up those decades old events with a prissy, puritanical, higher than mighty attitude is a troll...

To all the fucknuts like R88 pontificating about what Hillary and Bill should have done in their marriage:

STFU. Unless you are privy to the most intimate details of their relationship, which none of you assholes are, keep your fucking mouths shut about what Hillary and/or Bill should or should not have done.

You're the same cunts who, if you'd been around in the 1930's and 1940's (and got knows some of you reptilian bitches were) would have been tsk tsking the marriage of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, which again was none of your fucking business.

[quote]HRC has been "raked over the coals" because she allows her husband to treat her like a toilet to shit on as it behooves him. If she had a gram of "intelligence", she would have divorced him LONG ago.

STFU. You are likely the type who thinks it was perfectly OK to have an incoherent inept grifting moron as our president and a former escort as the First Laidy? A woman who has lived in the US a very long time, yet cannot string together a sentence.

Hooker Melanie had more than enough time to take English and elocution lessons, WTF else does she do all day, shop? That bitch didn't even want anything to do with Christmas decorations. These two morons made ZERO effort to learn what their jobs entailed!

No one knows why she chose what she chose in her marriage and never will. I'm no Hilary Clinton hysteric but projecting her motives in her marriage is loony.

[quote]A fashion icon she's not, but she looks more relaxed and better.

Agreed; I like 0 Fucks To Give Hillary.

I know she's not everyone's cup of tea and for good reason, but you have to admire her courage & perseverance even if you don't necessarily like her as a person

[quote]I know she's not everyone's cup of tea and for good reason

Pray tell, r105, what exactly would be that "good reason"?

Even from the comments on this thread from a group of people largely inclined to *like* (or at least respect) her, she's a polarizing figure. But that doesn't mean you can't admire her for being a survivor.

[quote] You are likely the type who thinks it was perfectly OK to have an incoherent inept grifting moron as our president

It's a stuttering problem he's had since chidhood, you idiot! I'll take Biden over your Orange man any day.

[quote]Even from the comments on this thread from a group of people largely inclined to *like* (or at least respect) her, she's a polarizing figure

What the hell does that even mean,r107? The polar opposite *anti*--Hillary group (trolls) have never once given a valid reason for their *hatred* of her.

This admonition about self-respect in the context of such a long marriage is bizarre to me. Which people haven’t humiliated or compromised themselves in some way (even if some secret way) over a romantic partner? Lots of people stay in marriages that look shitty from the outside for a lot worse reasons. Marriages and long partnerships are mysteries in a lot of ways.

Whoever dressed Hillz throughout the 2016 primaries and the post-primary campaign, in those ghastly "Autumn" shades of avocado, orange, burnt brick, mustard, olive green, brown, etc., with hideous lipstick to match . . . must have been a saboteur out to lose her the Presidency. That color family completely clashes with her skin undertones, and turned her face a horrid greenish-yellowish-grayish hue. She actually looked sick much of the time.

The colors she is wearing in Venice, OTOH, are complementary to her skin undertones. She is glowing here. I could not understand who was dressing her throughout 2016. I did note that Huma was constantly wearing the "Autumn" color family--if she put Hillz in those colors, that's a double crime along with the docs on Weiner's laptop.

She need to go on QVC an sale the kaftans

She may be a smart, nerdy lady, but that doesn't mean she has a good political instincts. For some reason, people have drummed it into women's heads that being the smartest teacher's pet in school means that you will automatically be successful in life. Life doesn't work that way. You need to take risks to succeed and she never did. Her whole life has been about playing it safe and by the book. Trump made a fool of her on the debate stage and she let him. Because that's how she does everything.

Being the First Lady for two terms and then a U.S. Senator is doing pretty well, success-wise. Just because you lose the Presidency doesn’t make you a failure - that’s true of a bunch of successful people.

Sure, Jan @ r113...

Don't forget Secretary of State, r114.

Her skin is flawless.

R98 And I'm sayin' to you in the politest way possible:

Shove your fuckin' hypocrisy and double standards down your throat and out your arse.

I don’t think Trump made a fool of Hillary on stage but otherwise R113 nailed it.

R110 - Romantic partner? These romantic partners?

I always felt that Bill and Hillary had an understanding and that she was OK with his philandering as long as it was on the downlow.

I love her, but she doesn't seem very sexual and Bill was a very randy fellow. Their marriage seemed to be more intellectual, than sexual. He's brilliant on a whole different level and so is she. They are a perfect intellectual match and that's what bonds them more than sex could. She knew that someone with Bill's intellect wasn't going to leave her for some tart like Monica.

She was probably happy that she didn't have to have sex with him all the time.

I like blue.

Hills played along with the ruse that Trump was a viable candidate, he did not belong on the stage as a candidate for POTUS. She, like most of us, didn't understand maga was gonna grab the wheel and run the car off the cliff.

Here's Hills explaining how Trump would react to the election results, everything she said was and is true.

But as Hills is hammering her point home, Trump interrupts her and the moderator just giggles at the garbage Trump is spewing.

I was molinksied.

Thank you for sharing, r118.

You don't negotiate with terrorists. You do not accommodate maga. You call em out for the scum they are. Hills worked as a public service for 40 years and realized too late maga had cannibalized the Republicans. Maga had a new game plan with no rules and no boundaries.

Hills worked in public service for 40 years and realized too late maga had cannibalized the Republicans. Maga had a new game plan with no rules and no boundaries.

R95 it wasn't just the BJ in the oral office

Bill's past were a problem for Hillary

Thick as thieves?

Yep. Dump was a lifelong Democrat until the grift came a calling.

Donald Trump, the president of the United States from 2017 to 2021, has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s.

The accusations have resulted in three instances of litigation: his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1989 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim;businesswoman Jill Harth sued Trump in 1997 alleging breach of contract while also suing for sexual harassment but agreed to forfeit her sexual harassment claim as part of a settlement she received relating to the former suit; and, in 2017, former The Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos filed a defamation lawsuit after Trump accused her of lying about her sexual misconduct allegations against him

@r128, Since you'd rather talk about Bill than Hill with your list of transgressions, let's do Trump. Oh, wait, r132 beat me to it. Thanks! Are you sure you want to do the Clinton vs Trump game? You'll lose, big time

- r95

Accused of rape. RAPE. Not just special harassment, RAPE.

Sexual harassment, spell check didn't 😂 like that term

We all lose. R133

Hillary is a good model for us all. It is rare to see a person who is an aspirational icon, especially for young women.

(^.^)

she looks like a total bitch

Still talking about it. He looks awful

No. Still being asked about it and too polite to tell these people to STFU about it. I never knew George HW Bush had a long term mistress who attended public functions with POTUS and FLOTUS until I started loitering on the datalounge message board.

The View weighs in

R141 they willingly participated in the documentary and in the clip @R140 a reporter wonders why THEY decided to talk about it now. Bill and Hillary should STFU and go away.

Logic is not a strong suit of magats.

Per R103 STFU. Unless you are privy to the most intimate details of their relationship, which none of you assholes are, keep your fucking mouths shut about what Hillary and/or Bill should or should not have done.

But we do thanks to the Clintons themselves

Hillary talks about how she dealt with Bill's infidelity

She would have looked good in Wisconsin and in 2016, but she never came. Instead she stayed with her Malibu and NYC cronies, believing the election was in the bag. The result - the country is fucked.

^ Derp, derp derp... 😜

Ok, confirmed. A whole generation of folk just need to pass away. HC and Bill and "decency" and and and....

Tiresome. Fucking tiresome. Give it all a rest.

^ Yeah, well, the problem with that is that each generation makes carbon copies of themselves

Little Rock knew and Jennifer had tapes

^ So, he was still better than any Republican President in the last 100 years

Gorg!!!!

I liked Ike.

^ That's only because you were at his inauguration and Mamie had her way with you 😜

Hey, when she took out her teeth........... MAGIC.

^ Braless Mamie with no teeth holding a can of parsley potatoes is hard to resist 😳

One of the most unattractive women ever. Also, zero fashion sense.

Now, now, our gal Mamie knew how to bring the boys to her yard...

That milkshake was curdled

Seeing how people (mostly gay man and uninformed women) still loves her at this point is hilarious.

^ Seeing how the right still hates her is hilarious 🙄

Yeah, that "basket of deplorables" really hit a nerve 😂

I prefer her in the Chairman Mao collection.

And to quote my retired hairstylist mother, "old women should never have long hair."

R165 making a post calling her beautiful is hilarious, certainly more hilarious than whatever right wing trolls said about her

^ Huh? 😂 You freaks really are nuts 🤪

@r168, Meghan Markle and AOC are beautiful, Hillary is just smart

R169 have a poster of hillary in her bedroom. And when making decision, she thought to herself, WWHCD, What Would Hillary Clinton Do. And the decision could be as trivial as which toothbrush to pick and what to have for dinner. And when talking about 2016 election, she burst out in tears saying it is the saddest moment of her life and sometimes like, "we as a country fails her", "she could have been the greatest president in history" "she has been under attack all her life".

^ Yup, totally loony-tunes 🤪

The nervous frauen on here crowing about respect who think Bill and Hill have a traditional marriage amuse.

No doubt the frauen are so nervous because they fear their own husbands are on the down-low. (And they are.)

Why she wears pants.

like her own party nominating a virtual unknown over her in 2008 R166

if only the election had been held on October 27th!

R170, If you think Meghan Markle and OAC are beautiful, then beauty truly is in the eye of beholder.

In my eyes, they are both have very odd looking features . Long, straight dark hair can work wonders to distract from googly eyes, big teeth and a ski sloped nose.