Justice David H. Souter

And he is probably gay

He's got "gay face"

I used to see him occasionally at one of the Concord supermarkets back then.

Yep, lived with his elderly mom until she died.

^ my bad, he lived with her until she entered a retirement home.

I'm fascinated by SCOTUS. Those brilliant minds! And Justice Souter is one of my champs. Talk about an American type.

He's one of us gurls. I always liked him, too. He had the grace to hang it up when he was at the top of his game.

R4/R5 No he did not. That is a rumor. He took care of her because she was sick a lot I believe.

He lived in Boston and Oxford for college/law school, then worked and lived outside of Concord.

R8

The high court nominee lived with his mother in their weatherbeaten farmhouse until she moved into a retirement residence in nearby Concord several years ago. Until Souter went to Washington to prepare for the hearings, he continued to live in Weare and visit her every Sunday

Cooter

He's really an anachronism. He had a sterling reputation when he was in DC and seems to be what everyone thinks he is. He also seems to have pretty much lived life on his own terms, which I admire, as it is fairly rare, particularly when done in a way that does not offend others. He left SCOTUS at 70 and never looked back, although he does sit on the bench with the First Circuit Court of Appeals as he is allowed to do. He is very physically active, still hiking. I can see him easily living beyond 100 years.

He was once engaged!

He is totally no frills. I was intrigued about his NH farmhouse and googled it. It almost looked like it was abandoned. I was surprised at the run down appearance...needed paint and repairs. He has many books and I read that the house couldn't support them all....so he moved. He's an interesting guy.

Souter rarely, rarely gave interviews but not too long after he retired, he gave an interview to one of the national news shows and gave a tour of his new farmhouse. As he pointed out a large storage area, the interviewer said something like "That's a very large closet you have there, Justice Souter."

Attached is an interview at The Kennedy Center with Sandra Day O'Connor. They are discussing Civics education. Very interesting.

It is also funny he has no idea who the actor Richard Dreyfuss is.

His new home is beautiful and elegant too

Another pic of him.

R11 what does everyone thing he is?/What is his reputation?

He was a Republican who retired after less than 9 full years on the Supreme Court and he retired during the administration of Obama which allowed the appointment of Sonia Sotomayor.

"It is also funny he has no idea who the actor Richard Dreyfuss is."

They're all hopeless Aspie nerds. That's why they can't retire: they wouldn't know what to do.

No computer, cell phone or TV, damn that man is missing out on some great porn, well great might be an exaggeration but he is missing out on porn.

I wish more of the Justices would follow his lead..

Wasn't this after Bush threw a bone to the far right in the form of ultra conservative Clarence fucking Thomas?

Bush was a creep.

I think reading about history is his porn.

R19 He was on the Court for 19 years. He waited to get his pension, despite coming from a wealthy family and putting a lot of money in good stocks.

R23 Souter was first then Thomas.

He can quote Charles Dickens and Henry James, but doesn't know who Lady Gaga is.

[quote]Attached is an interview at The Kennedy Center with Sandra Day O'Connor.

"The Kennedy Center" usually refers to the performing arts venue in DC. This was at the Kennedy Presidential Library.

Does he have an OnlyFans?

R27! Sorry a typo

Classy Old School New England WASP money

Oh, he knows who Lady Gaga is. Lol

R31 very doubtful

When I grow up, I want to be David H. Souter

I would call him a very eccentric man- willfully ignoring or eliminating modern convenience and tech. I admired his integrity. But I suspect he is a gay man and as such gas not lived to his potential in the drive to a more perfect Union. Somehow I think it is all related- an inability and or rejection of living in the world as it is, in part because he lacks the courage.

I feel pretty confident he has a computer by now.

Maybe he's asexual. Not every man who doesn't marry is a closeted homosexual.

r36=Miss Lindsey

R37, no, he's a closet case.

R36 I think so. I think he lives in a shimmer of discrete privilege, a half step removed from the rest of the world.

I wonder if he at least watches movies based on the classics. I can see him liking movies like Howards End, Enchanted April, and The Age of Innocence.

He makes me think of "Now, Voyager"...

R40 he did that

I respect anybody who is genuine and he certainly is. He's likely gay, but I find it refreshing that we know little of his personal life.

R42 I agree!

I don't think he is gay. I think his interests and intelligence are so far above everyone else's

MARY!

I think he is a legal version of Kornacki.

Kornacki is not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.

R1- He's not GAY

He's just a confirmed BACHELOR.

Perhaps, marriage isn't important enough to him. It will distract him from higher purposes. He's very "New England" in personality and comportment. He just might be asexual. If he was gay, the GOP would've "outed" him years ago, as revenge. They despised his liberal leaning Supreme Court decisions.

Didn’t he retire with a huge fortune? A grifted 30 million?

How exactly would he "grift" money as a Supreme Court Justice?

I highly doubt someone as squeaky clean as Souter has a dark undiscovered underbelly at this point.

Does he like getting fucked doggie style?

[Quote] As Republican ideology shifted, he kept his same moral principles.

Um what would those old gay morals be exactly? Screw poor black people but not so openly?

R49 what does the "very New England" personality and comportment mean?

He had a very interesting judicial philosophy- stare decisis. He looked at precedent alone, not textualism v. originalism. John Harlan Marshall II was the only other justice to have that philosophy. Souter voted "conservative" on many Court issues, too.

R50 he was an only child to wealthy parents. His dad was a banker. He also invested early in some New England bank stocks that took off. He had a very good stock broker. He was also a frugal New Englander. Yes, he was the richest justice when he retired.

R54, "New England in comportment and personality" just means he's a Yankee. They are known for "shrewdness, thrift, ingenuity, and conservatism." (Quoted words from Britannica.) Another good example is Katharine Hepburn.

R54 he was not wealthy growing up. Not all bankers were wealthy, although his family was comfortable. He did invest in banking stock and knew when to get out. That makes him worth $6-7 million on his own. Plus being frugal as you mentioned. Thus, once out of DC, he could dump that dilapidated farmhouse buy a much nicer property. He has wifi capability and, since he has neighbors who welcomed him, he likely kept whoever did the yard work of the previous owner.

What was his reputation in DC? Was he well liked?

I know he was kind of recluse

I believe he is a rich mamma's-boy gay. Only his FBs know for sure.

R58 he would never tell. His special friends would never tell either.

Attached is an interview with him and Margaret Warner. He discussed the Constitution. He has great wit.

Attached is a panel of Souter and Sandra Day O'Connor discussing civics education and the election of judges.

Last video.

The Harvard Law alumni of the Supreme Court are the panel.

Neal Gorsuch, Stephen Breyer, John Roberts, Anthony Kennedy, Elena Kagan, and David Souter.

Souter outclasses them all.

If he was gay, he would never tell. It would be EXTREMELY INAPPROPRIATE to discuss your personal life to complete strangers.

R60 At 1:09:00 he predicted the rise of a Trump figure

Again with this CCR fanboy bullshit. Threads on this homo, on Susan Collins, on Condi Rice, and all the other white nonsense reminiscing about "The good old days, when you could reach across the aisle and enjoy someone else's company!" It's all bullshit, and it's bad for ya. Back in that era, people were just as nasty as they are today. We all just had thicker coats of naïveté, and convinced ourselves that everyone was friendly.

Who out there actually longs for the days when people with these values were considered "reasonable adults in the room?" They were assholes then, and their kids are assholes today.

R65 maybe but Souter was really an old old school Republican. So old school almost a Democrat

Here Souter is on a panel with other New Hampshire justices

He raised me after my mother died on 9/11.

R68 I don't think a classy, intelligent, and sophisticated man like Souter would help your sorry ass

George Santos and David Souter are night and day

Eh, his moderate positions lasted only a few terms. It's true that the GOP has gone far to the right, but he also went to the Left.

OP seems to really love the guy.

R3 What was he like at the market?

He's a real Republican . It's the MAGAts who are the RINOs

I found this old Time article about Souter. He sounds like a stand up guy.

I worked with the son of one of the other justices. He said Souter just didn't get his work done. Took way too long to write opinions. That's why he retired 'early.' He just couldn't hack it. He had led a relatively low-stress life in NH, and couldn't adjust to the workload/responsibility.

R75 I don't believe that. He apparently worked 6-7 days a week.

Working as a justice 19 years is "hacking it"

I wonder what he would say about the Trump MAGA movement.

[quote]He does not own a computer, cell phone or TV, only listens to classical music/opera, has a massive library of classic literature in his NH farmhouse, and has a strong interest in civics education.

With the exception of his interest in civics, none of these things are qualities I want in a Supreme Court Justice. I admire Souter too, but I don't think someone whose life is so far removed from regular people -- like people who need a computer to do their job, or need a cell phone to get and keep a job, let alone people who will never own massive libraries or NH farmhouses -- I don't think someone like that needs to be entrusted with decisions that will effect millions of regular people in their everyday lives.

R78 I disagree. I think it good to have justices who know the law and do not change the law based on the popular culture.

Who said anything about popular culture? His life is elitist and rarefied, and far removed from everday experiences of most people. Someone like that can't relate to regular people. Maybe you can't either since you think I'm talking about "popular culture."

R80 I disagree. Just because your personal life is odd, they can still relate to people and experiences.

"I want a dyke for president. I want a person with AIDS for president and I want a fag for vice president and I want someone with no health insurance and I want someone who grew up in a place where the earth is so saturated with toxic waste that they didn’t have a choice about getting leukemia. I want a president that had an abortion at sixteen and I want a candidate who isn’t the lesser of two evils and I want a president who lost their last lover to AIDS, who still sees that in their eyes every time they lay down to rest, who held their lover in their arms and knew they were dying. I want a president with no air-conditioning, a president who has stood in line at the clinic, at the DMV, at the welfare office, and has been unemployed and laid off and sexually harassed and gaybashed and deported. I want someone who has spent the night in the tombs and had a cross burned on their lawn and survived rape. I want someone who has been in love and been hurt, who respects sex, who has made mistakes and learned from them. I want a Black woman for president. I want someone with bad teeth and an attitude, someone who has eaten that nasty hospital food, someone who crossdresses and has done drugs and been in therapy. I want someone who has committed civil disobedience. And I want to know why this isn’t possible. I want to know why we started learning somewhere down the line that a president is always a clown. Always a john and never a hooker. Always a boss and never a worker. Always a liar, always a thief, and never caught."

R82 what?

Every summer, Supreme Court Justice David Souter would drive from DC to his native New Hampshire. One day he stopped for lunch in a diner. A stranger and his wife came up to him and asked, "Aren't you on the Supreme Court?" Souter said he was.

"You're Justice Breyer, right?" said the man.

Rather than embarrass the fellow, Souter simply nodded and exchanged pleasantries, until he was asked an unexpected question. "Justice Breyer, what's the best thing about being on the Supreme Court?"

The justice thought for a while, then said, "Well, I'd have to say it's the privilege of serving with David Souter."

Looks like he belongs to the Milquetoast Society (Presiding Officer, Merrick Garland).

R75 = Log Cabinette

R85 that's rude

R75 = Ginny Thomas.

[quote] Always a john and never a hooker.

R82 I had forgotten about that poem. I really love it. Just encapsulates the whole damn predicament so brilliantly.