CNN is dead to me

Hedgefunders are welfare queens whose investments are protected from loss by taxpayers.

[quote]Some hedgefunders bought it in January and are now turning it into Fox News.

Source, please? CNN is owned by Warner Bros. Discovery.

OP CNN was NOT bought by any hedgefund, The new owner is Warner Bros. Discovery it is a publicly trader stock with over 56% of the company owned by Institutional investment firms like Vanguard and Charles Schwab with investors like maybe you and me through our retirement accounts, just like every other major corporation. It does have some very conservative board members such as John Malone and it is going in a new direction which does disturb me. It is important to be honest with what you post and you have not been.

Ted Turner must be appalled.

I don't know how they will end up, but getting rid of that pig Jeff Zucker was definitely the right move.

Fair. It’s not a hedge fund but it’s a soulless conglomerate which is just as bad these days.

OP, since you were completely wrong in your first post why should I take this statement seriously? ^

Some of the headlines on the web page aren't even feature page worthy. It's as bad as Yahoo News now. An embarrassment.

CNN is just as propagandistic as Fox News.

CNN is nothing like it was 20 years ago, let alone 40. It's changed owners and managers so many times, it abandoned impartiality years ago, and it enabled the rise of Trump. Total ruination of a once great brand. Fox news destroyed it, too.

I never liked CNN. I only really watched MSNBC, but they’ve been dead to me since they canceled Chris Matthews.

When I don't understand something or don't have all of the facts in front of me, I just make shit up.

[quote]and it enabled the rise of Trump.

No it didn’t. No trumpanzee would have been caught dead watching CNN.

I got my hopes up thinking they were going back to being a straight news channel which is what the country needs.

Too bad it’s just yet another media company that has fallen to the radical right.

Op you are extremely ignorant. Scratch that,

You’re fucking STUPID!

The right wing has become grotesque and suffocating every corner of the free world. I will continue to try to carve out a democratic and free space for my self but it’s getting harder and harder. But k never go back once I’m done with something. And I’m done with CNN.

Who goes around asking right wing congressmen, the most corrupt and destructive people in the universe, and asks them how they can be further accommodated?

The absolute insanity of these people.

R16 nobody cares

R6 Do conglomerates WITH souls even exist?

R17 nobody cares about your opinions

The way they sacked reliable sources, which acts like a ref for the media and the network itself, to ax them with such glee and gusto and with such haste is grotesque.

Keep in mind that we're talking about the network that kept Santorum on its payroll until 2021.

Troll post.

It’s a poke in the eye to liberal ideals.

They are daring liberals to say something.

If you miss "real" news, do this:

1. Find the "PBS" app for your FireTV, Roku, etc.

2. Sign up for an account. It's free, but they make you do it for some inane reason.

3. When you're in the mood for news, launch the app and watch the most recent episode of "PBS Evening News"

It's refreshingly non-sensationalistic.

Here is the question,

why does it all come down to CNN and the usual suspect bastard profiteers and their thrust for mergers, acquisitions and to unify all companies under the control of the same 5 executives who’s name is behind every one of these thousands of recent mergers.

Why does it all come down to one channel?

On the Sunday morning show, State of the Union, Jake Tapper lets that asshole Repug Dan Crenshaw defend Trump for taking classified documents and said the FBI didn't need to go to extremes.

Meanwhile, the FBI had asked and Trump said he didn't have anything else. Crenshaw didn't even address the fact that Trump lied and should have had the documents at his house in Florida in the first goddamn place. And Jake Tapper barely followed up with anything of substance questioning Crenshaw in an obvious dishonest response.

Listen people. We need to have 5 or 10 national news networks.

Not just one.

Start your own media companies. CNN is just a few studios now and a name brand. They sold off a lot of their assets long ago and downsized into what they are today. Compressed to the max.

How much more can the shrink? Will they just become a headline algorithm.

What’s lacking in this story is competition.

No different that Face the Nation today, r29.

People have been so buried in their smart phones that they don’t notice the right wing has been smothering and silencing all journalist outlets and shrinking them down to nothing.

This is not “market forces” or any other bull crap that sounds good enough to repeat to other people and nod along like sheep.

This shit started with Dan rather and they have been setting them up and knocking them down every since. When they can’t do that; they will just buy your damn network and can you.

It’s a crisis. But they can only do this because nobody starts new business anymore.

Why is that?

The right wing forces took RELIABLE SOURCES of all things, of all shows, that one means war.

They took that show to the town square and they hung it for all the public to see.

This is because democrats were showing gains months ago in internal polls. Rich people have been shitting themselves in private while saying republicans have this in the bag in public.

If Trumpers had their way the traditional concept of the presidency will be replaced by a Russian/North Korean style hereditary dictatorship.

News networks will praise Trump (or one of his children who succeed him as dictator after he dies) 24/7.

People in the LGBT community will be forbidden to marry, forcibly converted to heterosexuality or their birth gender and institutionalized for life or executed if they fail.

Minorities will either be expelled from the country, killed in white nationalist led genocides or enslaved as servants.

Women will go back to being property that their husbands can abuse and control to how they see fit.

Anyone who badmouths the fearless great leader that is Trump will be brutally beaten and imprisoned.

Conversion to Christianity will be mandatory. Censorship will be everywhere.

Trump's America. This is what his supporters fantasize and wish for every day.

Is it really that hard to report facts? Fact, a former POTUS stole classified documents and stashed them in his private residence.

Why he did it?

Irrelevant.

Re: R28:

Tapper only cares about news that pertains about the books his written/plans to write, denigrating the Biden administration, or bigging himself up to his 16 year old Twitter followers.

Jake Tapper doesn't have any problems with Crenshaw, Santorum, or any other lying shitheel.

I appreciate the fact checking in this thread. It’s welcomed at any and all times by earnest posters.

Let’s keep this up. M It’s a shame we don’t see such diligent fact checking when it comes to republicans and their constant lies and misinformation that people report and repeat as some sort of valid “other side” or give them any sort of legitimacy when they don’t deserve or require that to profit in money and power.

R36.

Legitimacy is not a courtesy one needs to extend to republicans. It’s an odd grace to extend given that is neither desired nor deserved by them.

How many of these rich executive pricks would gladly give up our democrat for a yacht and seat at the fascist table?

These are questions we must all be asking ourselves.

Incels. They need the cash or they would never get sex.

OP's troll post is a great example for what needs to improve. He had formed an opinion from god knows what source. He didn't check or verify the information. But he still spread it for others to take notice.

Next, he is being corrected with facts. But at that point the horses have already left the barn. He maintains that he still was right somehow, and others chime in and agree. Many feel that his heart was in the right place, right? 🙄

OP, why do you even complain about CNN's fate? It's not that you needed facts to form an opinion in the first place.

How do explain CNN taking a hard right, r43? This tact is intolerance and not even entertaining.

Facts are not right or left, right or wrong.

There's plenty of news to report without the editorializing.

CNN has always been crap.

Op is Acosta drunkposting

[quote]Fair. It’s not a hedge fund but it’s a soulless conglomerate which is just as bad these days

CNN has been part of one soulless conglomerate or another since 1996, OP. The situation is nothing new.

CNN (as part of Turner Broadcasting) was bought by conglomerate Time-Warner in 1996. Which was then bought by AOL in 2001 becoming AOL Time Warner. It was then spun off without AOL and became Time Warner again in 2003. Time Warner was then acquired by AT&T in 2018. Then, in 2021, AT&T spun off Time-Warner as Warner Media, selling it to merge with Discovery Inc.

That's about 5 different conglomerates in the last 25 years.

[quote] I only really watched MSNBC, but they’ve been dead to me since they canceled Chris Matthews.

That loudmouth had one volume setting LOUD. Yelling over everyone and never letting a guest finish a sentence. He is not missed.

[quote] Op you are extremely ignorant. Scratch that, You’re fucking STUPID!

Why? OP is right. It's not a secret.

Ted Turner is a cock.

Mary r35 needs a calmative.

Corporate media is all fundamentally conservative. Just look at who they have on as guests, always these sinister reptile war mongerers who somehow book job after job.

There’s too much consolidation going on. What ever happened to entrepreneurs?

What ever happened to the Ted Turners of the world?

R48 I couldn't stand him either he was such an asshole.

Keith Oberman was fun they need to bring him back.

What ever happened to the liberal lady that used to make the rounds and started her own website she had short red hair and I think Rachel Maddow had a crush on her.

It doesn’t take much to start your own journalistic outlet and get a large following.

Remember Arianna Huffington? Matt Drudge? Even the former escort dude Andrew somebody. He has a big following.

It doesn’t take much there should be more journalistic outlets.

R56 I can't remember her name but I think you're talking about the editor of wonkette.

I’d enjoy watching Keith stroke out erry night on camera.

For a few minutes, at least.

All cable news is biased one way or the other. It isn't new it's just opinion. MSNBC, CNN, and FOX NEWS are all opinions.

This post is not a good example of what you're trying to talk about at all, r43.

OP's post was obviously his opinion. No one with any sense would see what he wrote and think it was news. The only thing he got wrong was that he thought CNN had been bought by John Malone, given the news today about how he's behind the push to make CNN rightwing.

You're trying to make it sound like OP posted entirely fake news that isn't true on any level, and that people here are believing some kind of lie, and that's a bigger lie than anything OP said.

Jon Nicosa is a journalist who has reported CNN shakeups before they announced and has an updated list of who is getting the axe and who is being shifted elsewhere. For some reason, DL won’t let me link to his tweet, but here’s the text:

“S ource: Once the coming shakeup at @CNN is done, don't expect John Berman, Alisyn Camerota, Jim Acosta, Brianna Keilar, Jake Tapper, John King, and Don Lemon to still be at the network OR have their current show assignments."

Sounds like it’s about to become a bloodbath.

R62 has the goss!

Popping the corn as I type!

Do people actually watch Don Lemon? Who?

I demand to know who is sitting through a Don Lemon segment, much less tuning in for his show.

Don Lemon is being moved to a 3am cooking show called, "Don's Lemons". He will be replaced by Stacey Dash.

[quote] Sounds like it’s about to become a bloodbath.

Years overdue

Ironically, this is the most CNN has been talked about in years.

Is Wolf Blitzer sstill there. They should get rid of him if he is still there. I stopped watching cable news right after trump left office. I used to watch MSNBC but since I stopped watching cable news my mental health has improved greatly. Now I only read the news.

CNN and MSNBC are both failed networks with no ratings.

Meanwhile, at Fox…

Jon Nicosia has a lot of articles on the Washington Examiner and the Daily Caller so I'm not sure he's the big CNN insider he's being hyped as.

r51, the thing r35 doesn't grasp is that all the booby-traps the Republicans set up to protect their ability to govern with a plurality are ultimately going to backfire on them & leave the DEMOCRATS with an unassailable governing majority for decades.

Scenario: fall 2024. It's hard to believe, but Trump managed to outdo his previous shitshow. In 2023, Trump gets convicted of some semi-major offense, but seemingly gets "let off" with a wrist slap because he's a former President & nobody really wants to get snarled in the aftermath of trying to simultaneously imprison AND protect a man like Trump, knowing that if anything happens to him THEIR heads will roll. However... Trump's semi-victory proves to be pyrrihc... no prison, but as a result of his felony conviction, he's now ineligible to run for President in enough states that even if he won every single elector from every remaining red state, it would be mathematically impossible for him to win. His minions fight in court, but it's too late... the 2024 election happens, and he loses.

For the first time in history(?), several of the few "red" states where Trump could legally run ignore the Republican convention, and put Trump on the ballot as the Republican candidate. The lawsuits fly, Trump turns up the heat, and by this point, every mainstream Republican just wants him gone... by whatever means necessary.

Election Day 2024 arrives. Trump wins most of the states where he's on the ballot... but ultimately, wins fewer electoral votes than both Biden AND his Republican opponent (from the other states). Biden himself squeaks a nail-biting victory with a 1-3 electoral vote majority. The Democrats keep the Senate, but the Republicans manage to pull off a 1-seat majority in the House.

Trump's campaign goes nuclear and goes for broke, and his crazies attempt another "Hail Mary" pass to throw the election to the House. And almost... ALMOST succeed. Except... by this point, so many Republicans have *had* it with Trump and his enablers in the GOP, a few candidates who won as Republicans say, "enough is enough" and switch parties. Suddenly, the Democrats have a 1-seat majority. Then a 2-seat majority. Then 3, 4, and 5.

Fox News and Trump go nuclear, and start openly calling for "the people" to "take back the government" from "turncoats". It's the last straw. A week later, 17 more former Republicans have left the party... including Dan Crenshaw and half the Republican delegation from Florida. Romney and Collins switch. And, to everyone's jaw-dropping shock, after narrowly defeating Val Demmings, Marco Rubio switches, too. The floodgates fly open, and within days, the Democratic Party has supermajorities that would have been positively INCONCEIVABLE 2 years earlier.

The switch happens so fast, the Democratic Party's leaders THEMSELVES barely have time to react. What's left of the Republican Party goes for broke, and claims that all the elected officials who switched parties somehow "committed electoral fraud". To their annoyance, everyone just rolls their eyes and laughs at them. By this point, state and local Republican officials have joined the stampede for the door... and all those laws put in place to cement Republican dominance are now entrenching nominal Democrats who were elected or appointed as Republicans, but now want nothing to do with the party that's humiliated them and tainted their own reputations.

Taint.

R72 you should write fiction, you have quite an imagination.

JFC CNN was never liberal. Remember CNN Tea Party Express? They followed around the fucking GOPig bus to every city where magically, sound stages, crowds hired from Craigslist, carried "hand-made" printed at Kinkos signs all while declaring it a grassroots movement of regular people like Joe the Plumber.

It turns out the Tea Party was a Koch Bro and Phillip Morris funded project that is STILL going on.

Remember the Tea Party platform was "No social issues" so they didn't have to debate them or answer any questions. They were all screaming about the deficit!

Why the fuck is this treated like ancient history?

Jake Tapper tap dancing for the new bosses. People are furious with him letting Crenshaw just sit there and lie.

I'm sure Jake Tapper was ordered not to press him or is afraid for his job. Remember Jorge Ramos from Univision? Keith Shilling threw him out of the 1st press conference for demanding to know how Trump planned to deport 12 million people. Not a single journalist walked out? Why not? What would have happened if everyone walked out in support of him? Trump is like the rich bully everyone hates but they still want to be invited to the pool party.

Every man for himself now at CNN.

This is going to be entertaining as fuck.

[quote] Remember CNN Tea Party Express? They followed around the fucking GOPig bus to every city where magically, sound stages, crowds hired from Craigslist, carried "hand-made" printed at Kinkos signs all while declaring it a grassroots movement of regular people like Joe the Plumber.

Republican Donald Trump, a far-right demagogue who campaigned on a slew of bigoted, xenophobic policies, has won the 2016 presidential election.

What was not often acknowledged in Trump's heated race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, however, was how her campaign fueled his rise to power.

The press was given their orders: 𝐖𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐛𝐞 𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐢𝐞𝐝 𝐏𝐢𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐬𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐭𝐨 [𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞] 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦 𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐥𝐲."

In its self-described "pied piper" strategy, the Clinton campaign proposed intentionally cultivating extreme right-wing presidential candidates, hoping to turn them into the new "mainstream of the Republican Party" in order to try to increase Clinton's chances of winning.

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates "as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right." Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be "elevated" to "leaders of the pack" and media outlets should be told to "take them seriously."

On April 23, 2015, two weeks after Hillary Clinton officially declared her presidential campaign, her staff sent out a group message with information for a "strategy call." The email included as an attachment a "memo for the DNC discussion."Republican Donald Trump, a far-right demagogue who campaigned on a slew of bigoted, xenophobic policies, has won the 2016 presidential election in a shocking victory few people predicted.

What was not often acknowledged in Trump's heated race against Democrat Hillary Clinton, however, was how her campaign fueled his rise to power.

An email recently released by the whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks shows how the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party bear direct responsibility for propelling the bigoted billionaire to the White House.

𝑰𝒏 𝒊𝒕𝒔 𝒔𝒆𝒍𝒇-𝒅𝒆𝒔𝒄𝒓𝒊𝒃𝒆𝒅 "𝒑𝒊𝒆𝒅 𝒑𝒊𝒑𝒆𝒓" 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒈𝒚, 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒐𝒏 𝒄𝒂𝒎𝒑𝒂𝒊𝒈𝒏 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒑𝒐𝒔𝒆𝒅 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒕𝒊𝒗𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒆𝒙𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒆 𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕-𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒑𝒓𝒆𝒔𝒊𝒅𝒆𝒏𝒕𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒊𝒅𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔, 𝒉𝒐𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒎 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒏𝒆𝒘 "𝒎𝒂𝒊𝒏𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒎 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑹𝒆𝒑𝒖𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝑷𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒚" 𝒊𝒏 𝒐𝒓𝒅𝒆𝒓 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒓𝒚 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒏𝒄𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒆 𝑪𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒐𝒏'𝒔 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈.

The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee called for using far-right candidates "as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right." Clinton's camp insisted that Trump and other extremists should be "elevated" to "leaders of the pack" and media outlets should be told to "take them seriously."

This document was part of the tens of thousands of emails to and from John Podesta, the chair of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, which were released by WikiLeaks.

𝑶𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓 𝒎𝒆𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒈𝒆𝒔 𝒑𝒖𝒃𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒉𝒆𝒅 𝒃𝒚 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒍𝒆𝒃𝒍𝒐𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒓𝒈𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒛𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒔𝒉𝒐𝒘 𝒉𝒐𝒘, 𝒘𝒉𝒊𝒍𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑪𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒐𝒏 𝒄𝒂𝒎𝒑 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒇𝒂𝒄𝒊𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒊𝒔𝒆 𝒐𝒇 𝑻𝒓𝒖𝒎𝒑, 𝒊𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒔𝒚𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒖𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒂𝒎𝒑𝒂𝒊𝒈𝒏 𝒐𝒇 𝑺𝒆𝒏. 𝑩𝒆𝒓𝒏𝒊𝒆 𝑺𝒂𝒏𝒅𝒆𝒓𝒔, 𝑪𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒐𝒏'𝒔 𝒍𝒆𝒇𝒕-𝒘𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒐𝒑𝒑𝒐𝒏𝒆𝒏𝒕.

Leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee show that the organization, which is supposed to be bound to impartiality, sabotaged Sanders' insurgent presidential campaign, which had mobilized millions of people and inspired a massive grassroots movement.

Jake Tapper & Don Lemon know they are next on the CNN fire list. Think Wolf is safe.

Lachlan Murdoch will own all the western world media. Give it a few more years.

LOL @ R70 coming up with "Suka" . . . although it needs to be mentioned that this particular tune as well as many other Russian Hardbass tunes are meant to be rather critical of Russia's political culture. In Russian, "suka" means someone ingratiating themself to the police or the secret service by blabbing and blowing the gaff on other people in the neighborhood.

If you want some real FOX "News" tune, look up "Kakogo kak Putin" since that one is NOT taking the piss out of Vladimir.

Sarcasm, breh, sarcasm.

Beatz beatz beatz beatz

Ohhhhhhh shit, my dude, this song is hilarious. Thanks for the rec.

Jake Tapper’s light-weight interview of Crenshaw was weak. It was poor follow-up, and Crenshaw delivered numerous false and unsubstantiated statements.

Jim Acosta didn’t let Chad Wolf get way with lies about the 2020 election.

Bed Bath and Beyond

Books

I can already see the change. Briana Keilar acts like she had a personality transplant.

Jake Tapper has always been Chuck Todd with a chin.

But believe it or not, the first time I ever heard Trump’s lies actually called LIES it was by Wolff Blitzer.

Jake Tapper is an egomaniac sour puss.

If he got fucked on the reg, probably would do him good.

Because R79, that was a super melodramatic and unprofessional stunt and no journalist worth their salt would want to risk their White House credentials to help him get press.

Welll

R88, you're welcome.

How come MAGAts didn't come up with a tune like the one mentioned in R85, linked in R87, respectively?

"Kakogo kak Donald" . . . they just need to replace "Putin" with "Donald", it works perfectly with the lyrics and the tune's melody. No need to create a version in English either since MAGAts love all things Russian.

Fox News will gladly play it on heavy rotation. So will CNN, I guess.

Ha ha!

Is new intro musik, Komrade Kat!

r93. He was CANDIDATE Trump, it was a press conference and Ramos was confronting him on one of his first of 50,000 fucking lies. "melodramatic and unprofessional". Right. Why are liberals so rude?

And BTW Trump never did have a plan to deport 12 million people, did he?

"build a wall and make Mexico pay for it" was an applause line, not a policy.

Someone made Mexico pay for it but it wasn't Benedict Donald.

^ Also forgot to add, die in a grease fire.

[quote]R13: No it didn’t. No trumpanzee would have been caught dead watching CNN.

Trumpanzees already followed Trump, and didn't need convincing, R13. But what CNN did was obsessively cover everything Trump did, said, or Tweeted on a continuous news loop, unparalleled publicity for which the Trump campaign never had to pay. To be fair, CNN is not the only one that did this; MSNBC's 'Morning Joe' also gave Trump media attention free of charge. This kept Trump in the minds of everyone watching CNN, which had an effect upon so-called 'swing voters.'

Not muh anchorinooooooos!

I moved in April and finally cut my cable TV cord. Since then, it's impossible for me to 'accidentally run into' cable news as I always have done. I rarely turned it on intentionally except when I was addicted during the nightmarish Trump era. Never watching any cable news network since my move has had a very positive effect on my overall emotional well being, and it has reduced my engagement in Twitter. I guess cable news used to provoke me to go on there and lash out about political topics that cable news networks would raise my hackles about.

I suggest cutting the cord. Let CNN die on the vine. It would not be a loss to the country.

Set hackles to Raised

^That's clever.

Trump was president for 2 years before his, at the time, 4000 lies were called lies. Until Michal Cohen proved in a court of law that Trump was a liar, everything he said was a "falsehood" or a "misrepresentation".

50, 60 thousand lies later... and he's the Messiah.

Now CNN prohibits using “the big lie.” Tells you all you need to know about CNN.

How about The Large Lie?

Over the past few, years, CNN has morphed into MSNBC-lite. Problem is, they sucked at it and their ratings tanked big-time. CNN used to be my go-to news source, but I stopped watching when Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon became their central characters. Also, Anderson is looking more and more like a ferret, and he is difficult to watch.

I only watch the hurricane footage.

When Anderson Cooper gets blown, blown away, respectively by a hurricane, that is.

I'm disgusted to see that an entire TV network that provides a Constitutionally protected, vital service to the American public is going to completely alter it's focus, simply because it has a billionaire or two on it's board of directors. I know that we revere wealth over all in this country, but the our democracy depends on the accurate truthful communication of news.

I have been watching CNN for years. I have come to feel comfortable with the familiar, and dare I say, I trust them. And now to think they will be forced to gratuitously inject a POV that is wholly anti thetical to the Truth, and succumb to "both siderism" sickens me. It is a very dangerous and disturbing development and it will have an impact on the stability of our already fragile democracy.

When you look at what is on offer out here: We have MSNBC which is Left. We have Fox which is Extremist Right Propaganda, hate mongering vitriol and fear. And then there are the network news organizations like NBC, ABC, and CBS. all woefully inadequate. CNN was the last opportunity we had to get decent news coverage and in depth context.

CNN was vital. It was flawed. It was often frustrating, but it was the best we had. And they do a wonderful job on disasters. Hurricanes, fllods, fires, terrorist attacks, wars, they always got it right. Now we are facing a future with more bullshit. I'm going to start following the news through Canadian or British outlets where I can, and PBS. Because this shit sucks.

I don't like cable news at all (per my rant above), but I did feel CNN jumped the shark specifically when they paired Lemon and Cuomo as faux 'best buds' and had both of them promote 'the handoff' with their unwitty banter between their two shows. Lemon reposted his fans' videos watching and cheering during 'the handoff' and praising 'the handoff' every night. It was an unabashedly unjournalistic branded kind of entertainment and it really broke down the suspension of disbelief for me that CNN intended to be a journalistic organization and not an entertainment network.

But I guess CNN and the guys felt like they had to work with what they have. Anderson and David Muir do their pouty-swoony Instagram selfies to woo the viewers and Lemon and Cuomo can't really get away with that and so they tried another approach.

Journalism is an important aspect of a working democracy but entertainment journalism is a trap.

MSNBC would be center-left if Republicans would show up and make cogent arguments. The problem is we are in a post-truth era. And there is NO Republican platform, it is literally "what ever Don Douche says it is". It's a cult.

[quote] CNN was the last opportunity we had to get decent news coverage and in depth context.

I disagree totally.

CNN is just another cable entertainment-news network that features maybe 15 percent reporting and 85 percent opinion-based commentary.

And it is not really 'news' in a well-rounded sense that is good for public consciousness. It is myopically focused on gossip and 'palace intrigue' aspects of politics, and on violent events like mass shootings, which it exploits ad nauseam.

Old-fashioned newspapers are a useful medium of comparison.

As a child, my family subscribed to the Washington Post, our local newspaper.

The front page featured the "big stories" of the sort that are discussed on cable news networks. Despite those news networks having 24 hours to discuss anything they want, they only discuss those big salacious headlines.

Then there was an international news section, which told us what is happening around the world. This doesn't exist in most cable news programming.

Then there was the metro section—local DC metro area news. That obviously does not exist in national cable news. And local TV news is pretty useless except to inspire fear and tell people about weather, traffic and sports. Very little nonviolent community info.

Then there was—and this is the big one for me—the health and science section.

Science! If an alien were to watch cable news on almost any given day, they would think we are a scienceless civilization. There is SO MUCH to discuss, and almost all of it is ignored. Major scientific discoveries happen every day. Occasionally a NASA story will make the news, and of course a pandemic. Other health issues that affect millions? Never. Environmental news? Never. Tech developments? Rarely. Biological discoveries? Absolutely never.

Newspapers have magazines that discuss history, culture and so on. These sorts of things occasionally have a place on cable news, but always with a political agenda, whereas print news used to sometimes feature just useful information sometimes, facts about science, facts about history, and so on.

TV news doesn't teach people with objective information; it lectures with opinions.

And the worst to me is how much time is dedicated to political polling. This is done to influence voters' thoughts and behaviors. The polls change constantly and manipulate minds, and that affects the outcomes of elections.

They are not usually accurate predictors, and far more importantly than whether they are accurate predictors or not: WHY is the news reporting what has not yet happened? Sports journalists don't predict who will win a game because that is determined as the game happens. Only weather and outcomes of elections are predicted and I find the latter highly suspect and I believe it subverts democracy. Kellyanne Conway is a careerlong pollster who runs a polling company, and she does it as a form of propaganda, not to accurately predict outcomes. There should be no place in journalism for fortune telling and yet it occupies a disproportionate space in cable news.

All of these cable shows on these networks have promoted these anchors and certain reporters and contributors as celebrity-type entertainment rather than journalists who have done their research. Thus, viewers have become wrapped-up in the personalities they have been watching, and less so on substantive informational content.

While some TV news figures have journalism degrees and quality experience, a bunch of them are not highly qualified. Some don’t even have earned college degrees such as Chuck Todd and Sean Hannity. And all those hired bimbos, broadcasting based on their physical attractiveness rather than the level of knowledge and skills, hasn’t been endearing.

R114 DL has had at least 100 threads made in the past five years dedicated to the appearances of cable and network news anchors. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is a demonstrably effective means of getting people to tune in and to do free word-of-mouth advertising.

Physics says everything is relative and entropy is universal and applies to all things. Entropy is the principle that everything degrades over space and time, or, colloquially, "everything always gets worse."

From the moment the first pamphlet was printed news has always had a POV and an agenda that promoted one side over the other. The Chicago Tribune was the "Republican newspaper" the Sun Times not. The Detroit Free Press was the Democratic News paper (going alll the way back to the Anti-Abolitionists!) and the Detroit News was the Republican paper. The Wall Street Journal was the newspaper of Corporate American, and therefore Republican. The NYT used to be regarded as "Liberal" in the classic sense.(Not Leftist) San Francisco Chronicle was more conservative, thus Republican. We have had political parties generating their own news papers for decades in our past history. I think it might be interesting to read up on the history of news gathering in this country.

When the Reagan administration lifted the FCC requirement for balanced and/or equal time in broadcast reporting, partisan news outlets have increasingly grown. I watch a lot of BBC, PBS, and C-Span. I do watch a bit of MSNBC and CNN. In the early morning, I do turn on Morning Joe. Some days it is excellent, other days I am disappointed.

I once liked CNN for international news. But they largely moved away from that except during the wee hours with broadcasting based in London. They do cover the war in Ukraine with regularity.

CNN is opinions about politicians and political trends. Almost nothing else. Those opinions influence viewers' opinions. That is propaganda, not reportorial journalism.

MSNBC is strongly biased opinions about politicians and political trends, and if you listen closely, you will hear many opiners reveal explicitly that they are speaking on behalf of the Democratic party.

Fox News is propaganda issued by a corporate-political conglomerate that exceeds the propagandistic agenda of MSNBC. Fox News only features prescribed, even pre-written opinions. The same is true of local news broadcasts syndicated by Sinclair Media.

Newsmax, OANN, The Blaze and the like are outgrowths of political cults, propaganda designed to radicalize viewers into advocating or taking actions to destroy their own country.

I haven’t watched CNN since 2016. Their ridiculous both side erisms are hardly new. Not at all surprised they’d go conservative. Whatever gets eyes on.

[quote]When the Reagan administration lifted the FCC requirement for balanced and/or equal time in broadcast reporting, partisan news outlets have increasingly grown.

That’s not true. First of all, the equal time rule wouldn’t have applied to CNN at the time since it was cable. It only applied to OTA because the spectrum that carried the signal was owned by the government and rented out. And, it may surprise you that it was Democrats that pushed for the rule to be repealed and Regan didn’t want to sign it.

Partisan programming was already happening. The rule had a loophole that was exploited that allowed for one sided content. While you did have to present an alternative view 1) it was only for importantcontroversial issues and 2) it didn’t have to air at the same time as the content you wanted presented. So you could air what you wanted in prime time and the present the alternative view in off hours. So it was essentially meaningless by the time Reagan did away it.

[quote]Sports journalists don't predict who will win a game because that is determined as the game happens.

While I agree with much of what you wrote, this is patently untrue. Outlets from ESPN to Sports Illustrated to local newspapers regularly predict the outcome of individual games and entire seasons.

r6 could you name for me any major corporations that are not owned by a soulless conglomerate?

I'd really love to know.

R122 RT!

Oh, and it’s the Fairnesses Doctrine and not the Equal Time Rule.

I don't think CNN going in a more middle of the road direction will work for them but lets face it they had to try something. Splitting the left with MSNBC wasn't working for them as they continuously trailed MSNBC in the ratings. I assume both Fox and MSNBC are able to charge much more for advertising than CNN is able to charge. CNN pretty much only has large viewership numbers when some disaster happens.

They have new ownership and a lot of debt and leaving things as they were in third place is just not what new ownership does.

[quote] I'm disgusted to see that an entire TV network that provides a Constitutionally protected, vital service to the American public is going to completely alter it's focus, simply because it has a billionaire or two on it's board of directors.

Well, CNN is a business first and foremost. If their board doesn't think they make enough money, they can and should do whatever they want to raise the financial bottom line. CNN was not put in place to make the world a better place.

That's why it is so important that NPR/PBS gets the support they need. But obviously they are still heavily underfunded to inform and appeal to the entire nation. I was hoping for a non-profit to stem this expensive enterprise of a neutral true news channel. And I suppose, NPR/PBS are the best that can happen within this model.

The problem with NPR/PBS is that they are not universally respected. Like the NYT and WP, they are continuously discredited as left leaning. A stronger distinction between news coverage and opinion editorial may help with that. (Same for CNN).

Jake Tapper is slumming his 3 year old book on twitter.

Apparently, very soon, this will be Jake’s new full time job.

They need to make Anderson wear tight polo shirts to show off his muscles and big arms.

R128 That was Anderson's schtick on Instagram before the baby. Now it's all baby all the time.

David Muir has to be next, especially since ABC News put the kabosh on his sultry selfies.

Muir is good and looks good reading the news. The contributors on his show including Crispy Creme, stink

R129

OMG remember DTM’s hot selfies!!!

ABC definitely pulled the plug on those model poses.

Chuck Todd was hired based on his physical attractiveness?

I did not know that.

DTM?

More like DTF, am I right, brehs?

He’s such a penis.

- Jake Tapper’s 3 year old, looking for new representatia

CNN, too, took an oath!

A NURSE’S oath!

Jake Tapper is selling his soul !!!

Pretty much all those CNN anchors who think they are cool & famous are now a fucking joke. It would be hot if Jake quit, but he is a pussy.

The Solution to their ratings problem is to report the fucking news. We get editorializing and opinions by the boat load from the Left and the Extreme Right. But we really get very little real news content. That's a huge problem. It is about being truthful. It is about the facts. If 21 deaths occur in a mass shooting in Uvalde including 19 children, and the fucking police are there with their gear and their shields and their guns, and they wait 78 minutes to engage the fucking shooter who is using an assault rifle, and some of the dead children could only be recognized because of the shoes they wore, those are fact.s There is no "both sides. " And when the mass shooters constantly use the assault weapons and we're having mass shootings every week, then maybe the assault weapons are a fucking problem???

R137 here. I am fucking sick of people tip toeing around facts. Sllavery happened. It is an historical fact. The fucking former POTUS illegally took top secret documents and other documents to his private home. He took them in January , 2021. The way a former POTUS gets his documents is to work with the National Archives. Trump ignored the process and he ignored requests to return them. He was finally visited by federal investigators with a supoena, in June, and his lawyersigned to say yes this is all of them, when they KNEW this was untrue. So much so that the investigators told them to get a padlock for the storage room. Now we finally get agents with search warrants. This shit happened. It is very clear and straightforward. There is nothing confusing about it. The one thing I would be questioning as a citizen is WTF took them so long to retreive Top Secret, Classified documents? We need to be able to listen to the news and trust that we are getting an accurate, truthful rendering of the facts.

I agree about your sentiment that we have enough opinion, not enough simple communication of facts. Of course that's why people watch Fox or MSNBC and not PBS news hour. Facts are boring and opinion can be sexed up to great drama. It's not necessarily that facts aren't entirely unappreciated. They're just not offered enough anymore. And not requested anymore either. Even here in this thread, you see that people (OP first but others too) don't care about exact information.

I want a 24-hour cable news that does this:

7-8am: Yesterday's big headlines; today's important events

8-10am: National news with interesting reports from around the country

11-12pm: European news

1-2pm: Central American news

3-4pm: South American News:

4-5pm: African news

6-7pm: Asian news

8-10pm: Science, technology, environment, health news

11-12pm: National news daily recap

Overnight: Replays of day's news

^All of the above reported, not speculation and not opinion.

Policy briefs and analysis with historic context, scientific discoveries, medical information and developments, environmental impacts from industries and solutions, discoveries of new forms of life, discoveries made by astrophysicists.

Not idiots paid to argue with one another about idiotic lawmakers and corrupt justices.

Well, there is CNN International if you want the world view.

R141, that already exists. It’s called The Weather Channel.

Call your cable provider.

R140, your news network would last about 3 weeks when the ratings came out and you discover that your viewer numbers are only in the double digits. This is a horrible business model - and this face it, all network news is merely big business.

This is not about business, its about control.

r144, you may be right. But r140 only pointed out what HE wants. He didn't claim that to be a viable business model.

Personally, I'd say what r140 describes would be a nice streaming channel where you can get all this info on demand. There is probably not a large enough audience for that, but maybe this can be gobbled together from all the streaming apps that smart TVs offer.

[quote] This is not about business, its about control.

Huh?

The high point of cable news was the late 1980s... CNN had a mission & methodology it carried out well, and did it profitably... just like MTV. Then, people realized that even though they were profitable & popular, they could make a bit more money & grow their viewership slightly by switching to "shows". Then, their investors demanded that the audience & revenue growth not only continue, but themselves increase each quarter, and lashed out violently at the channel's management & acted like even the tiniest missed-target (during a fucking recession, no less) was a financial apocalypse. So... we ended up with "news" channels that are little more than daily cage-fights between mercenary pit bulls in designer suits.

One thing that never ceases to amaze me is that, even NOW -- with streaming -- nobody has ever managed to re-capture & sustain the essence of early-80s MTV (showing whole videos in a coherent manner, with commercials & a few seconds of pithy commentary in between). Always, inevitably, every attempt devolves into "fewer and fewer music videos, more and more shows" within months, even though "channel scarcity" with cable-company gatekeepers is no longer a problem. They launch, mutate to run up their stock valuation, get flipped to a media conglomerate, lose their viewers (who only liked them in the first place BECAUSE they showed videos), then get shut down (because the remaining viewers are perfectly happy with the conglomerate's remaining channels).

So does everyone accept that "news" = opining about politicians, social issues and violent events, and nothing more than that?

I'm really curious about whether this seems correct to people. I was brought up to think of journalism as something different than that and when I watch any cable news network, I always get a feeling it is a force for evil that factionalizes people and shuts off their minds rather than illuminating anyone.

I never and never will watch the news. it's all "infotainment" now. I read the news like an adult, thank you

Imagine being upset that your source for information about the world is going to become less biased, more fact-based and less beholden to the stock interests of international mega-conglomerates and oligarchs.

I pity any CNN personality who's contract is just about up. Can you imagine going into contract renegotiation in this environment. CNN probably opens with how much of a pay reduction are you offering.

CNN just had Mick Mulvany on to try to present the stealing of top secret government documents as just an issue for calm negotiation with the biggest grifter and liar we've ever been subjected to. That's pretty much all you need to know about the current path for the network. R151, if you think their approach is truly going to be more "fact based" you are dangerously naive.

Yum, R143. Carl Parker

r153, you sound like you don't know that Obama, Bush II and Clinton also kept "confidential documents" in their private residences after leaving office.

R155, you sound like you don't know that they didn't.

R155 is a Daily Stormer poster pushing antisemitic conspiracies on a couple of threads.

[R155], you sound like you don't know shit. Why you keep proving it all the time is beyond me.

[quote] Imagine being upset that your source for information about the world is going to become less biased, more fact-based and less beholden to the stock interests of international mega-conglomerates and oligarchs.

John Malone is one of the largest shareholders in WarnerBrothers Discovery and Brian Stelter did one of his shows about the conservative influence John Malone has in the industry, a few weeks later Brian's show is cancelled. It is sad that you believe the changes at CNN will make it less beholden to the stock interests of international mega-conglomerates and oligarchs.

Maybe Lindsey Graham will get mentioned and shown less. All cable news networks are obsessed in referencing this DJT sycophants. LG is a Fox regular.

Well, R160, and everyone else who may feel the same, all the networks...even MSNBC ask opposite viewpooints to weigh in on issues before Congress, for instance, but 99% of the time very few if any want to appear. Unfortunately Lindsey is ALWAYS willing to go on certain TV shows. There are a few others who do likewise. If Lindsey is on TV a lot it's because he is always available for a quote.

Lindsey is always on TV a lot because he is perfect for TV. He's a creepy little twerp who you can't your eyes off of because you can't believe what you are seeing a hearing, like Kellyanne Conway except with the added cognitive dissonance of seeing a creepy little old feisty schoolmarm of a gay man oppose gay rights.

He keeps people's attention by endlessly contradicting himself, unabashedly, and has no real opinions and no conscience.

He's a fixture on TV news for the spectacle of who he is, not because of his expertise, and he has become more powerful within the Senate because of his media standing. He's a pop-politics villain in the same way Buttigieg has become a hero to many.

Years ago, I dated a guy who used to be a producer on the nightly news and he told me how it works is you get a story, and you need to get reactions or a comment to fill out the segment, and you're on a tight time line and you just go to the guys you know love to be on TV. I see Lindsey as one of those guys.

I need a spotlight and another goddamn kicker light NOW!

Jake Tapper has crossed over. He is totally got his tongue up the ass of the new owners , Right leaning POS people.

Graham will go on Fox and Newsmax bashing Biden and Democrats in demeaning ways. Then on the Senate floor, he’ll be giggling, backslapping, and friendly with Democrats. He was often chummy with Kamala Harris, for example. Graham was bitter with Manchin for voting for the Biden Inflation Reduction Package. Yet, he attends Manchin’s houseboat parties. Graham is present at many socials with Democrats. Graham loves to have his name added to bi-partisan bills if such has a good chance of passing. Graham always latches onto a powerful politician for access, exposure, attention, and political gain. His fanatic allegiance to Trump is somewhat shocking given the history of the contradictions. There’s a mixture of kompromat, a schoolgirl crush, and a mechanism for power and acceptance, intertwined in that relationship.

Is it just me or did CNN seem weird and off color tonight.

Like everyone was auditioning for Roger ails?

We dumped DirecTV and cable almost two years ago. Life is better without them.

Fuck CNN right in the ass.

It’s so icky to see them all switch like that. Pamela brown has gone fill Megan Kelly. That is one witch I do not want on my bad side.

R4, Ted Turner no longer knows he's Ted Turner.

Don Lemon broke the new rules and went off on Alice Stewart tonight.

Is it worth pandering to TRAITORS for ratings???

I follow a lot of CNN reporters on Twitter, and I like to respond to them when they go full Fox. Brianna Kielar is catching Hell today on Twitter. I want them to know how I feel. If you think no one reads those tweets you're wrong. They read them, and if enough people criticize this tilt to the Right they can't ignore it.

^ You're a true warrior for democracy.

Well, Fox opiners say whatever they are paid to say and it's clear that almost no cable news personality is above it. They live for the money and the fame.

People like Chris Wallace who actually will fight and ultimately give up a job because of personal integrity are few and far between, especially when someone is at this level.

It's not new. Decades ago, Katie Couric was caught plagiariazing a personal essay about when she got her library card. Her defense, which worked with her bosses and the public, was that it was one of her writers, not she, who was responsible for stealing *the words she read about her own alleged personal childhood experience.* Her writer was fired and no one held it against her that she was caught being a total fraud.

Kaitlan Collins came out of nowhere to become an anti-Trump White House reporter for CNN. Except she didn't come out of nowhere. She came from The Daily Caller, which is farther right and more radical than Fox News is. It was founded by Tucker Carlson. The Daily Caller's former editor was found out to have been using aliases to publish his own white supremacist and racist articles. The website publishes op-eds by other white supremacists, it denies climate change, and it's a force for evil. The old guard at CNN hired Kaitlan Collins anyway because she is pretty and can read what's written on a teleprompter.

Nothing has changed except the opinions on-air newsreader/models are being told to read.

The CNN swing is just blatantly obvious. They aren't even being subtle about it.

The media is going to help the demise of this country right along. A sitting President gave a speech about how we are two clicks away from losing democracy and all the media can talk about is a Marine standing behind Joe and if the speech was good politics. Nothing about the substance.

Most of the reporters I see on Twitter spend a lot of their time congratulating each other on awards they don't deserve.

I won't weep if cable news just dies altogether.

I was a fan of Jake Tapper during the pandemic. I find him unbearable now. He endorsed Kushner's book with reweeting one of Ivanka's tweets. That was the moment I knew he had sold out and he has no integrity. Such a fucking hypocrite. CNN ratings are currently so bad, I hope even more people boycott this right-wing trash network.

Brianna Keilar is obviously also a cunt with no integrity and will say anything to save her job. Poppy Harlow last night was also unbearable. They just fired Harwood. All of these anchors can go to hell. I'm out.

I wonder if Anderson has some integrity left and will quit his job. Interestingly, Cuomo is kinda responsible for this mess when he blackmailed Zucker and gave Discovery a chance to install Licht and change the direction of the network to right-wing trash TV.

Is it really news to you guys that news readers just say what their employing corporations pay them to say?

Democrats had an online meltdown after hosts from their leftist network CNN dared question President Biden’s use of the military during his fiery primetime attack on his Republican rivals.

Hosts Brianna Keilar and Jeff Zeleny were just a few of the people upset at the commander-in-chief using Marines to back him during his speech — sparking demands for their axing and an outright boycott of the left-wing network.

“You are clearly a shill for the RNC,” one person whose Twitter bio includes a #BidenHarris2020 hashtag tweeted Zeleny just for saying that using the Marine Band was “a break with White House traditions.”

“Your sheets are showing.”

“New Day” host Keiler was first to spark the meltdown, writing, “Whatever you think of this speech the military is supposed to be apolitical.

“Positioning Marines in uniform behind President Biden for a political speech flies in the face of that. It’s wrong when Democrats do it. It’s wrong when Republicans do it.”

A minute later, the network’s chief national affairs correspondent was even more measured, stressing that “there’s nothing unusual or wrong with a president delivering a political speech — it’s inherent in the job description.”

However, Zeleny claimed, “doing it against a backdrop of two Marines standing at attention and the Marine Band is a break with White House traditions.”

Both were soon flooded by people saying they had unfollowed them as well as calls to boycott CNN over the simple statements.

“Brianna Keilar has sold her soul,” one person told their more than 90,000 followers, while others said the tweet proved she is now “straight up MAGA.”

“You know CNNs transformation into Baby Fox News is officially complete when Brianna Keilar goes MAGA,” one “vote blue” supporter said.

“Uncovering The Truth” podcaster Dash Dobrofsky also told his 109,000 followers that Keilar’s criticism proved that “CNN stands against Biden and supports Fascism.”

Others suggested that because Keilar and Zeleny had shared the same thought, it must be proof that they were under the control of right-wing forces supposedly now in charge at the network.

Former MSNBC host Keith Olberman told his 1 million followers that CNN staff “are living in dread of being Steltered” — referring to the recent axing of host Brian Stelter — “by the new right wing management.”

“Having said that,” he wrote, Keilar and Zeleny “should be fired tonight. Sorry.”

Olberman also added Poppy Harlow to the list while sharing a message condemning CNN’s “embarrassing coverage” of Biden’s speech.

Rodney Grim told his 7,000 followers that “Brianna Keilar is quiet quitting” in anger that “CNN is turning into Fox News.”

Random House vice president Benjamin Dreyer had such a meltdown, he made a glaring mistake despite being a best-selling copy-editing guru.

He accused Keilar of making an “embarrassing” mistake and “cheating” by copying Zeleny’s tweet — even though the timestamps of the messages he shared clearly showed that Keilar’s tweet was posted first.

Keilar soon addressed the backlash, tweeting, “It’s possible to agree with everything Biden said and still disagree with using Marines as backdrops for a political speech.”

[Quote]Keilar soon addressed the backlash, tweeting, “It’s possible to agree with everything Biden said and still disagree with using Marines as backdrops for a political speech.”

The dumb bitch obviously never had a problem with this when Trump, GWB, Reagan or Obama did this. But for Biden to use marines as prop it was totally inappropriate. As a journalist, she should have focused on the speech and not some dumb background shit. Disgraceful. Lost all respect for this cunt.

Brianna was a DL heroine not so long ago when she was passionately reading her staff writers' opinions about Trump and his cronies!

The way I understand this thread, you're mainly bothered because anchors are no longer paid to lean progressive. You didn't know that Jeff Zucker's payment was the same payment just for a different direction? Or did you actually know that, but in that case you deemed it OK?

Now, theyre all just Malone’s bitches

I think this is a PERFECT screenshot, and it shows EXACTLY what's wrong with the press right now:

Brianna Keilar was one of the loudest voices CREATING this criticism, and now she's REPORTING that "Biden faces criticism over Marines in backdrop of speech."

YOU did that.

FF’ed the OP for posting factually incorrect crap like this. More right wing propaganda (pretending to be left wing a la Bernie Bro style)

[quote]The way I understand this thread, you're mainly bothered because anchors are no longer paid to lean progressive. You didn't know that Jeff Zucker's payment was the same payment just for a different direction? Or did you actually know that, but in that case you deemed it OK?

Yup, that’s what I’m getting from this thread. And it’s funny because it’s not even close to what I’m watching now on CNN. DL and reality are often at odds.

Remember, it’s what you won’t see that will change the most

They didn't lean progressive, for fuck's sake. Except for Don Lemon screeching every night there were panels with left and right leaning talking heads and much more just reporting the news. They aren't leaning right they are Fox 2 now. It's blatant. But you trolls keep right on trying to make it not so. God I fucking hate you people.

DL and reality are o̵f̵t̵e̵n̵ 𝒆𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒏𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 at odds.

Yuck, it's ugly in here. *moonwalks out of the room*

Interesting watching CNN in Europe vs in America. In America, it's nearly all just American news. In Europe is about world news.

CNN’s Poppy Harlow Pushes Biden Spox Jean-Pierre to Say Whether POTUS Will ‘Apologize’ To Republicans For ‘Semi-Fascism’ Attack

CNN anchor Poppy Harlow bluntly asked White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre “Will the President apologize?” for calling the MAGA movement “semi-fascism.”

One week ago, President Biden told the crowd at a DNC event that “what we’re seeing now is either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy. It’s not just — it’s not just Trump. It’s the –it’s the entire philosophy that underpins — it’s — I’m going say something — it’s almost like semi-fascism, the way in which it deals.”

Karine Jean-Pierre changed the subject.

HARLOW: So can I — we — I understand our viewers I think fully understand the shift that Kevin McCarthy made from what he said then to what he said later on, but I asked you about the President, and what the President will say tonight. So I’m going to take it as a no, the President will not apologize.

The NEW CNN: Why won’t President Biden apologize to people committing Espionage & selling Nuclear ☢️ Secrets to the Russians?

John Harwood, the veteran White House correspondent for CNN, announced he is leaving the embattled cable network on Friday — the latest high-profile departure under new boss Chris Licht.

Harwood tweeted “personal news,” announcing “today’s my last day at CNN.”

[quote] In Europe is about world news.

I am thinking that's because CNN International is only watched by international travelers in hotels. Every European country has news channels for national viewers. I don't believe that CNN is the first-choice news channel in any country.

Jake Tapper sold his soul.

Jake Tapper is MAGA now @ CNN.

Is Erin Burnett in witness protection?

Angry right wing white men with torches are taking back the studios

CNN has shifted rightward from some of the “both sides” pretentiousness they often displayed. It is a reflection of their changed corporate focus.

Frankly, CNN has made a bad situation worse. It’s just a new angle to enhance shit-stirring.

Fox News has been the leading "news" entertainment/radicalization network for a long time now. CNN is chasing that money. Cable news companies evidently have no responsibility for the public good, just for profits in the short term.

What next? CNN replaces Don Lemon with Diamond & Silk and the MyPillow Lindell becomes a huge ad buyer?

OP- Dunkin Donuts 🍩 has been dead to me for many years- ever since a hedge fund took them over.

Are Boston Creams purposely affecting the election?

If any of these CNN anchors had any integrity, there would be a mass exodus. I think any person with integrity would leave, but these people make millions so who knows. It's just incredible that only a few months ago Tapper refused to interview any Republicans who supported the "Big Lie" and now he supports these lying motherfuckers and gives them a national platform. Keilar's rants were legendary and now she's just a spineless right-wing shill. How can you possibly justify this mental shift? They all seem to have a major case of cognitive dissonance or only care about $$$$.

R207 Again, it's not a mental shift. They are given talking points and they read scripts for a living. They espouse the ideas of the corporation that employs them and they always have. They are hired because they are photogenic and can read a teleprompter without tripping over their words and they are good at looking at the right cameras and throwing to commercials or field reporters when needed. They are technicians, not thinkers.

And Jake Tapper had the nerdy-sexy newsreader look that appealed to Americans when he was hired but now he is a haggard old man, much less photogenic with fewer job prospects if he were to leave. So he's "just doing my job." If that gets people shot in the head and thrown into a shallow mass grave, hey, it pays the mortgage!

The thing is I ha ve to watch CNN to get any actual news. MSNBC is all commentary and analysis, and Fox is a horrible joke. One thing I do notice is that if you watch CNN at different times the slant is slightly different. In general, I only watch about 5 hours of news a week, or less. And honestly no other network covers real breaking news like they do. They have done an excellent job on the war in Ukraine, and on floods, fires and mass shootings. Anytime there's a catastrophic event.

I canceled my cable finally in the spring and it is difficult to access any cable news outlet now.

It's AMAZING. It has improved my quality of life and my emotional well being.

The only thing I ever think about it now is the chilling knowledge that hundreds of millions are watching and being activated into states of paranoia and rage at all times, and I am largely clueless about when the radicalized population is swelling toward explosiveness.

Lachlan Murdoch’s babydoll anchor is Tucker Carlson. Transitioning Trey Gowdy must be a.Lachlan favorite. And the most adored and favorite guest: that is none other than the fabulous Miss Lindsey. Miss Linsey and Miss Tucker detest each other and don’t appear together. But those aging MAGAs watching on TV get some testosterone stirring and start to howling.

I was watching Fox News for a couple of minutes the other day to see if they were covering the Biden speech. Instead of the speech, Tucker Carlson was giggling like a little shit, laughing like a patient in a mental hospital and ranting about random, unrelated stuff and making crazy faces. He sounded like a complete lunatic. How anyone can listen to this madman for a whole hour every day is beyond me. This guy seems to be brain damaged and mentally ill.

R174, Will this cause Brianna to gain even more weight?

[quote] The thing is I have to watch CNN to get any actual news.

R209, why is PBS News hour not a viable alternative? Is it because they don't do breaking news, just one hour a day? Or are they too, um, sleepy for you? I dropped cable news altogether and resorted to online sources with hardly any video, just text.

[quote] The thing is I have to watch CNN to get any actual news.

R209, why is PBS News hour not a viable alternative? Is it because they don't do breaking news, just one hour a day? Or are they too, um, sleepy for you? I dropped cable news altogether and resorted to online sources with hardly any video, just text.

I watched PBS News Hour for the first time ever a few weeks ago. It was absolutely excellent!

The only thing against it is that it wasn’t flashy and sexy like the cable news channels

Their website is still not as much of right wing apologia as their cable programming. I guess the people whose widdle feelings they don't want to offend are functionally illiterate.

R210, I get a lot of news from Twitter. I follow newspapers and journalists. Here’s some. Domestic news:

President Biden @POTUS

The White House @WhiteHouse

Karine Jean-Pierre @PressSec

Ronald Klain @WHCOS

White House Chief of Staff

Secretary Pete Buttigieg @SecretaryPete

Rep. Nadler @RepJerryNadler

Representing parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn. Proud to serve as the Chair of @HouseJudiciary.

@DanRather

John W. Dean @JohnWDean

Author, Lecturer, Columnist (Justia), CNN contributor, fmr Nixon White House Counsel, fmr Goldwater Chair at Az State Un., Senior Fellow, CCLP, Annenberg USC.

Adam Goldman @adamgoldmanNYT

NYT reporter covering FBI and nat sec. Ex- @WashPost

Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes

Senior Fellow, @BrookingsInst. Editor in Chief, @lawfareblog. We love you. You’re very special. Yesterday is a very hard word for me.

International news:

BBC Breaking News @BBCBreaking

BBC News (World) @BBCWorld

Christopher Miller @ChristopherJM

World and national security reporter @politico covering Russia's war in Ukraine. 12+ years in Ukraine and Eastern Europe.

Josh Lederman @JoshNBCNews

@NBCNews Correspondent, currently in Ukraine

zaborona_media @zaborona_media

Community-focused media outlet based in Kyiv.

NEXTA @nexta_tv

The largest Eastern European media. To let the world know.

Defense of Ukraine @DefenceU

Ukraine government organization. Official page of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

Ukraine @Ukraine

Ukraine government organization Yes, this is the official Twitter account of Ukraine.

Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan

Ukraine bureau chief for The Washington Post.

Garry Kasparov @Kasparov63

Chairman of the Human Rights Foundation (@HRF). Author, speaker, 13th World Chess Champion

Julia Ioffe @juliaioffe

Founding Partner and Washington Correspondent, @PuckNews. All views my own. Void where prohibited.

Malcolm Nance @MalcolmNance

US Intelligence +36 yrs. Expert Terrorism Extremism,Russians getting ass kicked. x5 NYT Bestselling Author, Navy Senior Chief, Widower, Ukrainian Legionnaire

@ZelenskyyUa (President Zelenskyy)

Ukraine government official

Illia Ponomarenko @IAPonomarenko

Defense reporter with The Kyiv Independent

Colonel (fmr.) Vindman @YVindman

Father, Husband👉🏻@cindysuesci, retired Soldier, Lawyer, public servant & Patriot. Grateful American. #hererightmatters

Alexander S. Vindman @AVindman

Husband to @natsechobbyist. Vet. NYT Best-selling Author. Ex NSC/ WH Staffer. Advisor @votevets. Pritzker Fellow, Lawfare. Doctorate JHU 22'. #HereRightMatters

Rachel Vindman @natsechobbyist

Science:

BNO News @BNOFeed

Coronavirus, monkeypox and other health-related updates from BNO News. For other news, follow @BNONews and @BNODesk

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing

Epidemiologist & health economist. Health equity. Global health security. COVID updates since Jan ‘20

@ NOAANCEI

National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI), an office of @NOAA, is the Nation’s leading authority for environmental data.

NASA @NASA

Hundreds of millions, r210? You’re off by two orders of magnitude.

The biggest cable news audience is Tucker’s 3.2 million.

Who the hell watches 24 hour cable news channels?

Are you literally retarded? Are you in a doctors waiting room or a nursing home? There’s no reason for anyone to be watching that shit.

r218 forgot to sign. Who knew Bubble Boy posted here

R219 The only reason Fox gets high ratings, is because there's a lot of military bases, airports and hotels etc that turn their televisions to fox news. And then there's the people that actually do watch fox.

I think people often forget about that. There's a lot if televisions across the country turned to fox with no one really watching them. Some journalist should research that.

[Quote][R219] The only reason Fox gets high ratings, is because there's a lot of military bases, airports and hotels etc that turn their televisions to fox news.

I doubt a lot of these places are Nielsen families.

[quote] There's a lot if televisions across the country turned to fox with no one really watching them.

Wrong card to play. For years CNN 𝑝𝑎𝑖𝑑 local airport authorities for the 𝑒𝑥𝑐𝑙𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑣𝑒 rights to run its programming on monitors throughout their terminals to that captive audience. If you can show Fox does the same let's see it.

I've also noticed in the last several years in doctor or dentist waiting rooms the televisions that used to be set on CNN now are tuned to Food Network or House renovation shows.

Communist News Network!

Is Anderson going to stay?

r222, you're ridiculous.

R227 how am i ridiculous?

R222/R228, it's not hard to understand that many people are going to be turned off by Don Lemon, Vanderbilt Cooper and New York Cuomo.

CNN is too NYC-centric and upper class male.

My dr office has tv tuned to the local news channel. No politics. Just lots of robberies, car accidents, fires and ads for extended warranty insurance.

But seriously NOBODY should be watching cable “news.” That era has ended. .

If you need to have it on because “I’m a news junkie”…no ….. you’re not.

It hasn’t been news for 20 years.

C-Span, BBC News and Sky News.

R229 you Pennsyltucky retard, Cuomo hasn’t been on CNN for months

R232, they held onto him until they had to get rid of him.

A big reason why America is where it is in 2022 is that people don't follow local news instead of falling for fucking culture wars and other gaslighting shit Republican-leaning mass media is serving to them.

Stop

Watching

All

24

Hour

Cable

“News.”

It’s

So

1990s

Just so you know whose bidding they're doing now.

Not muh anchorinoooooos!

I watch cable news mostly during the early morning. Most weekdays it is Morning Joe. If there is major breaking news or there is a news story I want to follow, I will tune-in periodically throughout the day. So much is repeated every hour. I watch MSNBC mostly, some CNN, and BBC often late. I refuse to watch any of Fox which is near all propaganda, spin, and lies.

If you want to understand the country, including Fox News is essential.

Where can you get truly impartial news anymore? PBS...I guess?

I rarely watch CNN, unless there's a big event...like January 6, 911, or a speech to watch.

You can watch most speeches on NBC Now, which is on YouTube. There’s also ABC News Live and NBC News Now on the Tubi app for free.

Not that I’m discouraging anyone from watching other news channels.

CNN, MSNBC and PBS were the only networks two broadcast Biden's speech live. The President of the United States gives a primetime speech and most networks don't even bother anymore to broadcast his speech. Too afraid his speech could upset their Republican viewers.

More likely afraid of him having a senior moment.

I had a video Dr visit on January 6. After I hung up I looked on Twitter to see what News might be trending. That’s when i saw what was happening. I turned on tv, but Twitter was much better because it was a WTF moment. People were reporting from the scene instead of tv news anchors bloviating about it.

Some of the people reporting from inside were MAGAs and some were citizen journalist types. Fucking MAGAs were stupidly uploading their own photos to Twitter as well as to their FB & IG accounts. DUH. It was horrifying but also hilarious.

I can't watch Fox News. I feel cruddy from the sliminess.

News.

LOL.

Stopped watching CNN when they dumped Larry King.

Larry King went to Russian TV after CNN canned him. And then he did infomercials for scammy dietary supplements of the type Joe Rogan and Alex Jones sell.

CNN has long had Dana Bash, known for her softball questions to Republicans.

CNN best not have her interview Rudy Giuliani again. They don’t want her star-struck again and sit there in awe as Rudy controls the dialogue.

R251, Dana has a face for radio, not television.

Dana Bash said "the angels are crying!" at John McCain's memorial service. 🙄

Ugh Jake Tapper getting fired would be a sign from GOD!

Is Jake Tapper the new Chuck Todd?

CNN is doing much promoted scheduled special feature about the Murdochs on September 25th. The motive for this is puzzling.

There is an unannounced agenda behind this.

The new incarnation of CNN will probably make it a fluff piece.

R256 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮

That’s hilarious, r253!

I'll bet John King and Dana Bash were into rough sex.

Jake Tapper has always been a Republican, pentagon suckup. I'm not surprised by any of this shit.

Switch Jake to TMZ to cover other important events such as celebrity trans boxing.

They would kill to get Greta Van Sustern back from Fox, especially with all her Scientology Hocus Pocus

Turn this shit off. You lonely ones got addicted to CNN in 1990s because you couldn’t stand not to hear a tv on in the background every minute you’re awake. That’s neither normal or natural.

Billionaire media owners realized you’re afraid of peace & quiet and did some market research. They found baby boomers responded to multiple headlines, split screens , chyrons running at the bottom of the screen and loud voices. In the mid 20th C, that’s how important news was announced: the network would break into programming for important events. There was urgency “NBC has this [italic] breaking news [/italic] report PRESIDENT REAGAN HAS BEEN SHOT.” (That headline would then be kept onscreen so everyone would stay tuned)

Or they would do a regularly scheduled “News moment” to encourage you to watch an upcoming broadcast. “Five people killed in a horrific car accident. Find out where at 11.”

And audiences went, “Wait…my son went out with his friends. ! What if they all got into same car and went to Burger King! OMG!”

Gen X got addicted from watching the space shuttle explode on tv screens in their classrooms. “Cool! I mean…sad! Yeah real sad. It traumatized me for life!….but it was so cool to see it happen live….but it was sad….”

You were all tuned in to 24 hours News after that [italic] just in case [/italic] something exciting happened. “Oooh, a school shooting in Colorado! It’s a siege! It’s been two hours and they’re still in there!”

A“Oooh, car chase! It’s OJ Simpson. I love it! I Now I love all car chases!”

Turn off the tv. Be alone. You can handle it. Stop lining the pockets of billionaire media people manipulating you into being a slack jawed dolt dependent on cable news for a glimmer of excitement in your lives.

Stop being addicted to the sound of anchor voices. Move on with your lives. Watch PBS News Hour and BBC America for real news. If you need to hear tv voices, keep CSPAN on your tv. But it’s best to turn it off and be alone with your thoughts for a while. You won’t die of loneliness, I swear.

Newscasters should not be celebrities you fixate on and masturbate to

[quote] Newscasters should not be celebrities you fixate on and masturbate to

Except perhaps young Connie Chung

Jake Tapper is a quack now.

Lead Anchor for QNN.

I'm about to turn this thread off.

Years ago, Jake Tapper interned for Congresswoman Mezvinsky, now Chelsea Clinton's mother-in-law.

Jake Tapper needs a steady dosage of Dulcolax.

He always has a look of constipation.

CNN is using Republican commentators to respond to news stories at every turn. The network is dropping fast.

I’ve rarely jerked off to anybody on CNN and certainly not the anchors. I used to do it every so often to correspondents Martin Savidge (when he was younger and hotter) and Phil Black. More recently I’ve rubbed out a few fantasizing about Nick Paton Walsh’s thick Brit beer can cock inside me quite deeply.

R220, my mother and a lot of other elderly people or shut ins have the news and the weather on all day. My mother said it started with 9/11 and after 9/11 she just needed to keep it on , very low, "in case something happens..." She watches CNN, never ever watches Fox. But I have discovered, at least so far, that CNN online is better than the slanted bullshit that we're seeing lately. CNN online is still reporting the news.

R218 I watch most of the same ones you've listed. Right now Harry Litman, Lawrence Tribe and Andrew Weissmann are also worth following. Do you follow Barbara McQuade and Joyce Vance? Even though I can't watch her TV show, Joy Reid does some good stuff on Twitter, and so does Rachel Maddow, of course, and Lawrence O Donnell. And Acosta and Sciutto are still good. Historian Michael Beschloss is brilliant too.

I wonder how long it will take cable news to discover this and report it...if they ever do... Trump knew she was in his corner. Loose Cannon.

Tide Has Turned- Commie News Network now Conservative News Network.

Cant prosecutors file a motion to have this judge removed from the case? Seems like it is a no brainer. Or file a fucking law suit through some legal advocacy group. Let's get more aggressive about this shit. I hate being a spectator and feeling like no one is out here fighting and acting like their hair is on fire.

When the conservatives became the commies

Look. As far as I can see so far, the news online is still OK. Twitter is still OK. So of these billionaire board members on the Right want to control the TV Network I cede it. I don't care. They need to fill airtime and they want more Republican shit asses on with their talking heads. Let them. I've decided I will not watch CNN at all except for Anderson and Acosta. I can easily do without the rest. I watch TV in the evening for entertainment. I do not want to see another video of Trump's latest outrage.

They must be targeting center-right conservatives. I cannot see any MAGA Trumpist ever converting away from Fox News. If you're not full in on Trump's antics, you're not one of them. Appealing a bit more to Trumpists won't atract, just alienate viewers. But then again, giving moderate conservatives a new home away from FN should be a good thing.

They're looking for Independents who lean Conservative, and "moderate" Republicans. Also maybe conservative Dems. Yes they do exist.

Anderson Cooper still okay, Jake Tapper owes USA & his military friends an apology.

John Miller, Dr. Tara Narula Join CNN in Chris Licht's First Major On-Air Hires

John Miller was hired as chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, I sure hope that doesn't mean that pocket gay Josh Campbell will be out at CNN he has pretty close to the same title without the chief in front of it.

So he's already hiring crooked, lying pieces of shits for his conservative makeover?

John Miller used to work at ABC, worked closely with Peter Jennings.

Trump is now trumpeting CNN.

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So Fuk News becomes... What?

Brianna K already has the blonde mane...bets on whether it'll get lighter a la Fox anchors as she gets closer to Brianna KKK?

CNN has been conservative since they hired an Atlanta right wing republican as news director, and that happened way back in the 90s

Unfortunately, the market for news anchors is very small. Especially the market for left leaning anchors who get paid a million bucks a year and appear on national television. So unless they wanna end up unemployed, on a local news station in St. Louis, Missouri or a podcast with 20k followers (Hello Chris Cuomo), they have you obey their master's orders.

"Just following orders!"

Brianna K is too fat for Faux News audiences. I bet Licht will eventually fire her and replace her with a blonde bimbo.

John Miller is an outstanding reporter, so attempts to denigrate him sound really foolish.

And the medical reporter? What do you have against her? She has outstanding medical credentials and I know someone who worked with her and speaks highly of her.

I implore you to turn off cable news. It’s eating your brains. Cable news zombifies people.

Can any of you remember a time when you didn’t hear cable news as an incessant background noise? If you can remember, did you go through withdrawal? We’re you jittery? Nauseous? Cramps?

You’ll get through it. Just tell yourself “This is best for me. My brain is filled with garbage already, I don’t need more of it. I need to cleanse myself of cynical bastards who deliver opinion as news and are trying to make people like me angry and frustrated. They are fucking toxic and nefarious and I’m going to be strong and not succumb to their blandishments. ‘Oh you can tune in now and again. We won’t hurt you! Come on, just a little top-of-the-hour, ok? We miss you.’ Don’t. Before you know it you’ll be dazzled by split screens, headlines, chyrons and a sense of urgency.

Then you’re hooked again, right back into the 24 hour cycle.

Cable news and reality tv are the lowest form of entertainment. They’re cheap and they’ve destroyed television. Don’t give me any “guilty pleasure” excuses….assholes who ruined tv and radio love telling you “I’m your guilty pleasure! Come on, give in to your worst instinct. Slack that jaw! Drool! Stare! Stuff your face with chips and Oreos. You’re one of us!”

I don’t leave cable news on “incessantly” in the background.

Except when there’s an impending Royal Death.

Wouldn’t you just hate to be the LAST to know!

Erin Burnet has balls, Jake Tapper is a pussy.

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^ Interesting that the DailyMail praised CNN's coverage of the Queen's passing but lambasted FoxNews' coverage. See post R298.

"CNN is crowned the winner of American coverage of the passing of the Queen "

"This wasn’t an easy day for anyone, including broadcasting networks under pressure, but at a heart-wrenching time, it was CNN that reigned supreme."

"And so, to Fox News, with endless aerial shots of Buckingham Palace and presenters whose main words were ‘Er’ and ‘Umm’. It sounded as if they were having to Google everything before attempting to relay any information. "

R294, the word is “nauseated,” not “nauseous.”

Someone pls bring that prick Jake Tapper DOWN.

The money grabbing whore without a conscience thinks it would be "clever" for Biden to invite Trump to the Royal funeral.

This is the same guy who refused to interview people who supported the big lie after Jan 6th. His picture will appear in future journalistic papers as a prime example for journalists without any integrity that will say anything for a big pay check.

People still wonder how people could support a German fascist regime in the 30s without speaking up. You can currently watch it happen live on American television, folks.

Will CNN cancel their Gay Minstrel Show on New Years Eve?...The manless queens with their social media prop children?...

Will the new conservative bosses let Anderson & Andy perform on NYE? No drunk Donnie Lemon?

R302

One always picks the easy fight

One praises fools, one smothers light

One shifts left to right

Politics -- the art of the possible

New Boss Licht has a wife who was an Anderson Show Producer. So of course Licht wont do a damn thing about the bottom ratings of A360.

I think Anderson currently has the highest rated show on CNN after Cuomo was fired. CNN's ratings are bad, but he's still the most popular anchor.

Anderson Cooper being the highest rated anchor at CNN is like saying you are the smartest person on FOX. It's ALL bad. Also Anderson just had his secret deposition leaked. He insists on being called a News Anchor...Not a host. Such a queen.

R307 Because Cooper is still more reporter than commentator. A lot of people really do want reportorial news and not histrionic personal opinions.

I admire Rachel Maddow's analytic and rhetorical prowess, but she has been foolish and borderline hysterical a few times. Most notably, and when she really lost me, was when MSNBC announced that she had Trump's tax returns. Then her show came on and she blabbered for 40 minutes and then finally brought on her guest, who gave a disclaimer that the returns were a decade old or older, and that he only had a few pages, and they basically revealed nothing.

It was such a huge letdown and it was dramatized misleading entertainment, not reporting and not even news.

And she's one of the anchors who is an actual intellectual and not just a spokesmodel who reads a teleprompter.

CNN's anchors are mostly spokesmodels. Cooper has demonstrated that he does his best to present himself more as a journalist than as an opiner. He has cracked a few times, like when he talked about Trump peeing on his desk, but that was newsworthy because Cooper doesn't usually go there. If his ratings are the highest, the network should look at why that is and realize that viewers don't want more extremism and screaming; they want less, and they want a network they feel they can trust, not a hub of cult indoctrination.

[quote] the returns were a decade old or older, and that he only had a few pages, and they basically revealed nothing. It was such a huge letdown and it was dramatized misleading entertainment, not reporting and not even news.

And all the while during that hysterical buildup totally ignoring the democrat appointed head of the IRS possessed 100% of Trump's tax documents for the audits and had found no damning information to even anonymously leak, much less prosecute.

Dan Rather scolding Jake Tapper.

Donald Trump doesn’t pay taxes like the small people

Does Licht send his anchors right-wing talking points every day? I wonder how this works. Tapper obviously hated Trump and the insurrectionist party only a few weeks ago so how do you suddenly come up with stuff like it would be clever to invite Trump? Did he get a memo in the morning that he could mention Trump should go to the funeral?

little people*

R310 Doubtful that that is true, or it depends on what you consider damning.

The NYT got its hands on actual tax filings from someone close to Trump and they revealed that Trump paid no income taxes for many years and paid literally hundreds when he did pay.

They revealed that his allegef net worth does not comport at all with his actual net worth—or, far more importantly, if he is as rich as he says he is, then he shelters his money somewhere and does not declare it in federal filings.

They revealed that he is not a sound businessperson and made the worst possible investment decisions and bled his companies to near bankruptcy, and his fortune was saved by NBC and The Apprentice. And even then, he took his enormous profits and made poor business decisions to invest in more golf resorts even when his resorts and casinos kept bleeding money.

All of this is relevant to him being president—a president who cheats on his taxes, who defrauds banks, who pays little or no taxes while poor people pay more than they can afford, who doesn't have nearly as much money as he claims to have or else is hiding his money illegally somewhere. And most importantly, he was elected by many who believed him to be a business mogul and his tax filings reveal he is a terrible businessperson and suggest he'd make terrible economic decisions for the country.

Before the paywall, I got that he paid no federal tax returns for 11 of the 18 yrs preceding......

rarefied air indeed

Anderson, Don Lemon & Erin Burnett are not playing the new CNN game.

Erin isn’t, I’ve been watching her like a hawk

Jake Tapper is too much of a pussy to be a real man & speak the truth.

What a fucking loser.

I'd like to post this in the MSNBC thread but can't find it even when I put MSNBC in the title search.

WTF has Stephanie Ruhl done to her face?? Last night her eyes and lips were not hers. She's way too young for this kind of foolishness!

If anyone has the MSNBC thread in their thread watcher and can link it here, I'd be oh so grateful. TIA!

We don't need another far right wing propagandistic station. There's FOX. It's no loss for me, as I rarely watched it. Another draw and influence of trumpism is the last thing we need.

R322 Not just Fox. Newsmax, Breitbart, The Daily Caller, the Federalist and OANN are radicalizing extremist media networks that have been legitimized enough that their employees are invited to ask questions at White House press conferences.

[quote] If anyone has the MSNBC thread in their thread watcher and can link it here, I'd be oh so grateful. TIA!

Muriel seems to have deleted all of the MSNBC threads, I found this one but I don't expect it to last long.

Queen Lemon had to change the town of Charles’ proclamation ceremony by bringing up Meghan and her accusations of racism. He just can’t do news. He wants to gossip.

CNN Plans to Air Murdoch Documentary Originally Created for Streaming

“The Murdochs: Empire of Influence,” a seven-part documentary series previously planned for the now-scuttled streaming site CNN+, will debut on CNN”s flagship cable outlet in the fall. The original series will debut with a two-episode premiere on Sunday, September 25.

I saw on Twitter that someone was complaining because Erin Burnette devoted her hour tonight to Hunter Biden's laptop. I can't confirm. But what truly pisses me off is that there is actula news happening. The Justice department has confiscated phones and issued 30 subpoenas to Trump staffers, and there's nothing!

FOX should do a documentary on Anderson Cooper and his Eskimo Brother Andy Cohen. No Joke.

[quote] what truly pisses me off is that there is actula news happenin

There was actual news happening when the laptop was found to contain evidence of the Vice President peddling his influence to China and the Ukraine to enrich his son and under the table himself as well.

Even more news happening when the flagship media coordinated with the White House and government officials to lie to the public pretending it was Russian disinformation.

And news was happening when a year later they finally whispered the matter was real and not foreign meddling.

And I expect quite a bit of news left to happen unless they manage to again sweep the dirt under the rug. I think we can be confident the CNN of six months ago would never have allowed Erin Burnette to run this story.

What are the 30 subpoenas for?

It sounds like racketeering

RICO Suave

Ask 30 people questions about one or more incidents and you are guaranteed some will contradict others. Then you can accuse them of perjury.

Well, At least 30 subpoenas and at least two phones have been confiscated and it is all related to January 6th. DoJ issued them, not the committee. And these are to top people in groups who were close to Trump. The noose is definitely tightening. And there was even a meeting on a golf course in Virginia, between Trump and some of these players yesterday.Trump and the others meeting ...no golf clubs in sight. Some of them have websites peddling extreme right propaganda. Looks like witness tampering to me. Trump was on his golf course in Bedminster, when he was taken to a private plane flew to Virginia, and met with these guys. It was very "Tony Soprano-esque."

CNN announces that they are replacing longtime morning show New Day with a new AM program hosted by Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow and Kaitlan Collins.

New Day hosts Brianna Keilar and John Berman will be moved to different roles once the new show debuts later this year.

Looks like Brianna Keilar's outrage about the two Marines standing behind Biden didn't make a difference and she was fired anyway. Don Lemon also lost his late gigs and was demoted to the morning program.

*late night slot

Kaitlin Collins and Poppy Harlow is real bad chemistry. Here's my list of keepers: Sciutto,Berman,Anderson, Acosta, King. As for women, Dana Bash is OK. Laura Coates is excellent. They have some solid reporters out in the field they need to keep. Those reporters give them legitimacy as a news organization. And some of them are really hot.

R335, Brianna will put on ANOTHER twenty pounds over this.

🍋 says he wasn't demoted and he was asked to move to the morning and did not have to say yes because he has a contract for his nighttime show.

Mmhmm.

Poor Don was once a journalist and then he became a professional opiner and now he's been relegated to morningtime song-and-dance man to entertain a corporate executive who doesn't like liberals.

I swear someone at CNN lifts my ideas from this site...I've been saying here for YEARS that Don Lemon should host their morning program. He hosted Sunday mornings on NBC ages ago. IMO he will use this to his advantage and eventually go back to NBC or one of the big networks to be a morning anchor. I also said that he ain't getting fired either, he is a double minority and his departure would cause too much controversy.

The weasel Jake Tapper finally snagged the open primetime slot. I guess his latest right-wing ass kissing and the fake outrage about the Cuomo situation earlier this year finally paid off and he got Cuomo's 9PM slot. What a disgusting backstabbing asshole.

This morning they had on a smarmy lawyer who said the new lawsuit will never work. One thing he said was Trump stopped being the head of his company. Hello, is there anyone with a normal I.Q. that actually believes he gave up control of his company simply because he said he did. Letitia James worked years on this and has the goods.

These days, CEOs have to personally attest to their company’s financial statements. So they can’t try to disavow them or say, hey, it’s all the CFO’s fault, I had no idea.

Trump signed those statements. Hard to walk away from that. Above the signature line, it spells out exactly what he was attesting to.

Tapper will anchor the 9 p.m. hour starting October 10 and continuing until November 11.

Alisyn Camerota, co-anchor of “CNN Newsroom” in the afternoons, and Laura Coates, senior legal analyst, will anchor from 10 p.m. to midnight through the midterm elections.

John Berman and Brianna Keilar will each fill in for Tapper in the 4 p.m. hour. Wolf Blitzer will then pick up an extra hour, anchoring from 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.

I love Laura Coates. But she needs new hair and make up people. No center part! And her make up was too harsh the other day.

"Tapper will anchor the 9 p.m. hour starting October 10 and continuing until November 11."

What happens after November 11?

[quote]What happens after November 11?

TBD

November 12th, I think.

What about John King and the election night coverage? Huh? What about it?????

Seems to me there's plenty to cut yet. Ana Cabrera at 1 - 2, whoever does 11 - 12, Wolf serves no purpose. They could convert him to a talking head if he refuses to go. Let's not kid ourselves, the only people who are safe are black, because of the prevailing mood. I liked Victor Blackwell on the weekends - he had good chemistry with whoever he was paired with. Less so with Alyson Camerota, who I loved with Berman in the morning. He's quite good on his own. Great voice. I agree with the theory they're just letting Don's contract run out. There's no way CNN is taking morning's seriously. Can't be done.

I would be pissed if my boss suddenly changed my work schedule and life. Lemon now has to get up in the middle of the night and Camerota lost her day job and has to stay up late. Ugh, I need my structure and sleep.

I'm surprised Licht doesn't try to copy The Five. The Five is currently Fox News' most watched program and people seem to enjoy that format. He also didn't bring in any new anchors. So far it's just a big reshuffle.

Oh, CNN is taking mornings seriously.

Licht has said a show like Morning Joe has the power to set the day’s political agenda. He really wants that to work. His strength has been in setting up multi-talent vehicles.

That’s why it’s hard for me to understand why he attached Lemon, who doesn’t have the chops in the view of much of the industry.

Lemon can do the “lighter” segments.

Jake Tapped would fuck your boyfriend or girlfriend if it got him to the top.

Anderson got the Hurricane 🌀 coverage and he didn’t have to suck any CNN dicks like Jake Tapper did to get 9pm Election slot.

Anderson girled it up on Coberts Show tonight. ..ugh.... Go look at the Vanderbilt Family Tree. Lots of broken branches and more than one suicide.

Please bring back Chris Cuomo.

R357 = Cuomo is on NewsNation now...

Would love for Cuomo to beat Tapper’s ass in the ratings.

[quote] Please bring back Chris Cuomo.

Brooke Baldwin too.

Why did Jake Tapper get Brooke Baldwin’s show in 2020?

Who’s dick is Tapper sucking @ CNN ?

What I love about Cuomo right now is that he is advertising his new show all over CNN. LOL! I have CNN on since the hurricane stuff, and their commercials are Chris Cuomo's new show. LOLOL! It's SO Italian.

R361 Why she left CNN so abruptly is still a mystery. She said on instagram that it ‘wasn’t her choice.’

[quote]What I love about Cuomo right now is that he is advertising his new show all over CNN. LOL! I have CNN on since the hurricane stuff, and their commercials are Chris Cuomo's new show. LOLOL! It's SO Italian.

You actually think he's personally buying ads on CNN? Marketing and ad buys for a network (News Nation) would be done by the network and their ad agency.

R6362, maybe she got the memo about how the network was shifting to the Right and decided she could not play that game.

She's helping Stacey Abrams capaign right now. She and the candidate are doing these big rallies and Q & A t hings .

[quote] She's helping Stacey Abrams capaign right now. She and the candidate are doing these big rallies and Q & A t hings .

Good job

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) holds a 7-point lead in his reelection bid over Democratic challenger Stacey Abrams in the latest Fox News poll.

Fifty percent of Georgia voters back Kemp compared to 43 percent for Abrams, the survey shows. That’s a significant gain from a July Fox News poll, when Kemp was only up 47 percent to 44 percent.

For all those interested, Boris Sanchez is reporting from Ft Meyers, FL in a kid's sized black T-shirt and scruffy facial hair 😛

R368, thank you. Much appreciated. But have you also seen sweet Carlos Suarez? Adorable. And he is family. I think he is in a relationship though. He is always photographed with this one guy.

Yes r369, I saw him on CNN and thought I recognized him from local news here in South Florida, he's pretty

[quote] Boris Sanchez is reporting from Ft Meyers, FL in a kid's sized black T-shirt and scruffy facial hair

Pics please, TIA.

R368, Maroon, not black.

R365 Again, she said on instagram that is was not ‘her choice’ at the time.

Yes r372 I am now fully awake and can been its a lovely shade of marooon. He is still reporting live from Florida looking lickable as everrrr

Boris must have had gaylings jerking off all over the USA this morning.

The undersized t-shirt, the prominent guns, the scruff, the tan, the deep voice and the Adam's apple,

Deeper, Daddy, deeper . . .

Boris is back on this morning, "live" from Florida.

Today's tight t-shirt is black and he's still unshaven.

Hairy-ass arms 🤪

R377, At first, I thought he had a light colored sleeve tattoo, but it is hair.

One can only imagine how hirsute he is below the belt.

OMG. I haven't watched hurricane coverage this closely since Anderson in his prime. Boris is indescribably delicious.

Speaking CNN being dead to me, Dana Bash is interviewing Rick Scott (aka Dr. Death) and Lil Marco Rubio today. Both those fuckers voted against hurricane relief efforts for Florida. Yeah. Rubio is running for re-election. If this doesn't make you contribute to Val Demings I don't know what will.

Boris was just interviewing a man who miraculously recovered his boat in Ft. Myers. That body is BANGING. He's tall and lean AF. The slutty unisex t-shirt makes him look like he's on his way to a gay-club, it can't get better bitches LOLLLL

Bet CNN is going to have him in T- shirts as often as possible. And on the air in general as often as possible. Boris just hit the lottery in the personnel shake up.

I found him first! Remember the time that little tourist kid got eaten by an alligator at Disney world or something. THis was a few years aago. Maybe it was a weekend? Not sure. But Boris "covered" it and it was maybe one of the first times he got to carry a story.

Yes, it was 2016! I Remember.

This is a better link to the original news story.

His Instagram page has a pic of him floating in a pool shirtless.

Tanning his tits:

Let's try that again . . .

Cuomo was interviewed on Kara Swisher’s new podcast. What an insufferable egomaniacal asshole.

I’d still like to drain his lizard dry.

R388

Chris Cuomo is no more egotistical than Jake Tapper.

Except Tapper is a verified loser.

Although Tapper's still got his job.

The business logic is pretty simple. With Fox News abandoning Trump, his supporters are abandoning Fox. OAN and the like can't generate revenue. This puts a bit under half of the US in search of a news outlet. So CNN makes the business decision to capture a portion of those who dropped Fox by presenting more right wing views. Et voila.

R392 I have seen no evidence of anyone "abandoning" Fox. Fox will survive Trump and they will survive Murdoch. As long as that family owns Fox, t he business model has proven very successful. It was so before Trump and will be so after him.

Of course you haven't R393. *eyeroll*

[quote] I have seen no evidence of anyone "abandoning" Fox

None in the ratings and the demos

R395 You can sure see why they're moving Don Lemon.

Total Viewers x 1,000

Gutfeld: 2.218

Ruhle: 903

Lemon: 545

Yeah well MSNBC just said the Republicans will take the House. Of course thery never take into consideration Trump fucked history. And apparently no pundits are taking abortion or Republicans taking Social Security away a major problem.

As if for the past six years MSNBC had done 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 other than cry about Trump

Tapper didn’t do any of the unethical things Cuomo did.

Tapper is a POS scared of his irrelevance. He will do anything to keep his job…Cuomo could wipe Tapper off the map any day of the week. Remember Tapper has always been jealous of Cuomo. He has been tweeting negative articles about the brothers for years.

ABC News passed Tapper up millions of times-that’s why he went to CNN. He’s been selling his soul for years.

Hey, Chris. Or Governor.

You do realize that's one day ratings, right R395? Says absolutely nothing of the trend after the truth about Trump, GOP and Fox propaganda was exposed in a way that it became difficult for people to ignore.

Tapper has swritten best sellers, won awards and once was a SERIOUS JOURNALIST. He was probably resentful of the fact that he has been around for a while paid his dues, etc. adn Cuomo got away with a lot of shit while he was at CNN. Plus Cuomo was not much of a journalist and if he said it at least once during every broadcast, Chris Cuomo is a lawyer. Tapper has done very well. But in the past few years he has become more and more annoying and snide, IMO.

[quote] You do realize that's one day ratings, right [R395]? Says absolutely nothing of the trend

Pick any other day you'd like. Fox normally doubles CNN and MSNBC combined. Including in the younger demo. This has been true for years now.

CNN has been garbage for decades,

SHOCKING I KNOW

Cuomo is an entitled asshole who loves getting his face on camera and being famous. I can't think of one fucking thnig he ever did to make the world a better place.

[quote] I can't think of one fucking thnig he ever did to make the world a better place.

A standard to which he was never held while pushing the old CNN ideological line

Is Jake Tapper fucking Kasie Hunt?

I thought he was going after Abbie Phillips when she first started doing panels with the big kids. He was way too obviously trying to support her.

The ratings are in:

"The former CNN star’s premiere of his new show “Cuomo” on NewsNation pulled in just 147,000 total viewers on Monday night, according to figures released by Nielsen Media Research."

And this really hurts: "...in the 25-to-54-year-old age demographic most coveted by advertisers, drawing just 8,000 viewers."

Kasie is a new mother and a happily married person. So is Abbie Phillips.

Has anyone seen Laura Coates lately?

Cuomo ha said the numbers wouldn’t be big, at least at first. Kara Swisher, in interviewing him, through out the figure of 50k.

R410, If Chris wants ratings, he should book that hunky State Trooper that Andrew banished practically to Canada because he was screwing his daughter.

R412, Laura Coates is on and off these days, often - most often - doing the 9 hour. She and Alyson Camerota are supposed to handle the ten o-clock show once Don goes off to cooking segments.

Look. Imma say this one more time: All these games CNN and other TV networks play along with print and streaming and online, etc. where they want to "balance coverage" is going to come back to bite them in the ass. Because once the Neo fascists take over, and believe me this is not speculation, they will "reshape" all our sources of information, and all those san ctimonious reporters who are too busy protecting their paychecks, will discover they are serving the ends of a fascist state. The government is gonna crack down on so-called press freedom.

When it comes to press freedom (Press Freedom Index) the US already ranks low. 45th in the world.

But hey, Biden's US does better than Zelensky's Ukraine. They rank 96th!

Can’t wait for the Don Lemón Cooking Show 🍋

Pretending to be dense is unbecoming R404. But if you insist...

From Adweek "Q3 2022 Ratings: Fox News Marks 83 Consecutive Quarters at Top of Primetime Cable News Heap" - "How do those figures fare relative to the previous quarter’s and the year-ago quarter’s? Well, Fox shed -3% in total primetime viewers and -15% among primetime adults 25-54, -3% in total day viewers and -12% among total day adults 25-54 relative to the prior quarter (Q2 2022). The results were more mixed when compared to the most-recent third quarter (Q3 2021). The network gained +4% in total day viewers, but shed -11% in the total day demo, -22% in the primetime demo and -8% in total primetime viewers from the year-ago quarter."

From MSN "Fox News Notches 20 Straight Years as Top-Rated Cable News Network" - "Fox News, like its competitors, was down year over year in total-day demo averages, primetime total viewership and primetime demo averages, although its losses were less than CNN's and MSNBC's. In total-day demo ratings, Fox News was down 7% compared to January of last year, CNN was down 81% and MSNBC was down 75%. In primetime total viewership, Fox News was down 12%, CNN was down 77% and MSNBC was down 56%. Finally, in primetime demo viewership, Fox News was down 20%, CNN was down 82% and MSNBC was down 73%."

If CNN plays their cards right, you'll see their viewership go up as it attracts some of the conservative viewers that abandoned Fox News. Time will tell.

[quote]In total-day demo ratings, Fox News was down 7% compared to January of last year, CNN was down 81% and MSNBC was down 75%.

[quote]In primetime total viewership, Fox News was down 12%, CNN was down 77% and MSNBC was down 56%.

[quote]Finally, in primetime demo viewership, Fox News was down 20%, CNN was down 82% and MSNBC was down 73%."

It is CNN and MSNBC that are really shedding viewers.

All of cable is down, but CNN and MSNBC are doing far far worse.

Also: Q3 is July to September. Summer month TV ratings are always down compared to the rest of the year.

I get that it's DL and it's funny to pretend like you don't know how to read R421. Makes no difference to me. TTFN.

[quote]If CNN plays their cards right, you'll see their viewership go up as it attracts some of the conservative viewers that abandoned Fox News.

Stupidest comment ever.

CNN the eternal nemesis of the right will have to change profoundly to attract Fox's conservative viewers and there is no indication that the network is going to do that. Fox News' conservative viewers aren't looking for "balanced" reporting which is CNN's aim.

Anyone know what' really going on with Jim Sciutto? They took him off the air, and said he had some personal issue to take care of ever since he took a very bad fall while in Amsterdam on his way home from covering Ukriane a few months ago. Now as I read between the lines, it seems to me he got drunk and fell and hurt himself? Who ever made the announcement was shitty to give us just enough information to conclude that. They could have said nothing at all. Or announced he was on medical leave without further explanation. He sure never seemed like a drunk to me.

An injury in "Amsterdam" would imply heavy drugs or gay S&M

CNN this morning is pushing the GOP winning the midterms.

r339 Carlos Suarez was reporting from Florida again this morning. Damn, he's beautiful like a woman. His eyelashes are so long and luscious they almost look fake.

CNN ratings WOULD skyrocket if they featured Boris Sanchez fucking Carlos in their Tampa hotel suite like I know they're doing!

Where was her friend Jake Tapper?

Friends to your face & Twitter…then when shit goes down men like Tapper/Cooper/Blitz/Acosta are nowhere to be found.

To his credit, Chris Cuomo was the first news anchor to ask questions regarding Shitler’s election victory. Absolutely no fucking one else asked or questioned its legitimacy and its implications. FUCKING NO ONE, okay?

Rachel Maddow dug in then and continued SUCCESSFULLY to drive home the point in a daily, painstaking manner. What Chris Cuomo did was historic and took great, big Italiano BALLS. (which I’d love to suck, BTW).

R429

Big Italian Balls for the win 🏆

Lissen R429. Cuomo was the asshole who made all those people famous on his morning talk show with Allyson Camaroti. He had every shitheel who was part of the Trump campaign on his show constantly. Michael Cohen, Kelly Ann Conway, and a few more of those fat, jackasses, along with Corey Lewandowski.

[quote] Cuomo was the asshole who made all those people famous on his morning talk show with Allyson Camaroti.

Jeff Zucker was just following orders.

About Jim Sciutto, he was “directed to address a personal situation” after a fall.

Rehab.

Jesus Christ Jake Tapps

He kissed a lot of asses to get that spot. Laura Coates was doing well in that spot. Anderson can't stand him, I'd bet.

. @JakeTapper *up close and personal* is coming *on* prime time. Join him Tuesday at 9 p.m.

Wasn't Sciutto drunk as a skunk one evening when he had to fill in for someone last minute? No doubt he was a drinker. The Amsterdam bit makes me think there is sexual edge involved which doesn't surprise me. Always got a sexual vibe from him.

I think Sciutto got drunk, fell and injured himself in Amsterdam. I think his drinking is a problem, so they intervened and he went to rehab.

Jake Tapper looks older. And not in a sexy way.

Omg

I still watch John King at noon. He seems OK.

Jake is going to 9pm and he ain’t going back to The Lead.

He got what he wanted-Cuomo’s spot.

Who will win the fight?

At least they will stop having Sara Sidner on to fill in some days without a permanent host. Her heavy breathing and thirst for DRAMA to rival DL fave Clarissa Ward was driving me away from the nightly lineup.

Yeah, she's quite a performer, that Sara Sidner. Kind of the Merman of the desk.

This new 10pm-midnight format of Laura Coates and Alisyn Camarota co-hosting with a panel is so awkward. Laura totally dominates the conversation while Alisyn just sits there nodding and smiling. Who asked for this pairing in this timeslot, anyway? It’s just odd.

It won't last. Laura Coates deserves her own hour. She is brilliant. When she is on a panel about some legal issue she is fantastic.

I jdaore Laura Coates. She knows her shit

[quote] Laura Coates deserves her own hour.

That’s pretty much what she has now. Alisyn Camerota can barely get a word in edgewise. I don’t know why she’s even there.

[quote]Wasn't Sciutto drunk as a skunk one evening when he had to fill in for someone last minute?

That was John King. Sciutto may have done that on some occasion too, but John King definitely did.

King was high on the night Osama bin Laden was eliminated. He was home on a Sunday night enjoying his weed when he got called in to cover the breaking news.

Alisyn has been very f ortunate.

Jake is not wearing a tie.

What a sad little man.

I dont like Jake at all, his tone is always so harsh

He's was surprisingly ok today with Biden.

Jake is snide and his voice is too nasal. And he whines. He is the tabloid version of a journalist. I was watching Stephen Colbert with Anderson and Anderson is adorable. Totally authentic and wonderful and sweet.

Wow if it had not been for this thread I never would have known about Jim Sciutto's bizarre personal leave after his "fall".

I see now that creepy Molly Hemingway from Rupert's WSJ-Fox world has a predictably juvenile and mean-spirited tweet about it.

Nobody on line seems to know anything about this, which is odd. I bet he looks good nude.

Who is it????

Sciutto

Sciutto is low key left. It would have to be someone who is more hard left to fit the description of the person leaving.

Acosta?

Is CNN swinging too far in the opposite direction? Everybody's going.

Wolf Blitzer. Betcha. He is very old and I'm thunking they want to give him his gold wrist watch and a big party and say adios.

Let's see. Who are the big names? You have Anderson. Then everyone else. Do I think they will fire Anderson? No. But I think Anderson may leave them. He is not depending on CNN to keep him in the public eye. He has 60 Minutes, and other options, and he seems to love his podcasting. I think he wants to spend more time being a father. But if Anderson leaves CNN CNn will be in trouble because Anderson will leave a huge hole.

CNN shouldn't fire Sciutto if he is in Rehab. That's not a good look. They may want to cut him, but they better wait until next year.

I don't want it to be Jim Scuitto. I've had such a crush on him forever. And I wanna know all the sleazy details of his Amsterdam exploits. He's always given a sexual vibe. And some of these pics of him in his youth give me pause that he has been quite experimental in his past.

Dana Bash may leave. GLoria Borger. Who knows.

Jake Tapper is a pussy.

He wrote some article about injustice & called out all the Democratic Leadership in Pennsylvania. Conviently leaving out the Republican Senator.

Tapper, we know what side you are on.

Can’t wait for Tapper to go against Maddow on Monday night.

Rachel better kick that little pussy the curb.

[quote] Everybody's going.

Just the dead wood

Except it sounds like this is another execution, not a choice. But maybe I am inferring that. I am not sure Anderson is such a loss. He only seems stoked by the things that matter to him - currently grief and his mother's chattels. My own theory is a shallow man is struggling to find meaning without growth.

The person that is leaving was close to Zucker—Acosta?

Laura Coates was very cute last night in her effusive admiration for Angela Lansbury. She revealed that she’s actually named after the film Laura and not after Lara from Dr. Zhivago, heh heh. And she cleverly asserted how both Gaslight and The Manchurian Candidate are relevant in today’s politics.

The new bosses’ idea for Jake Tapper’s new 9pm show is interesting. He’s dressed casually (no tie) standing next to a screen that displays a slide show to accompany his monologue about politics. Later he’ll interview that grifter person Anna Sorokin (he interviewed Biden last night.) Has a late-night talkshow vibe.

We’ll see how long it lasts, I guess. It is different.

Acosta just got big in the past 4-5 years. Close to Zucker might be Wolf Blitzer or one of the women.

Alex Wagner beat Jake.

CNN has to realize no one likes Tapper…He is a Sunday Political Show guy, not a Primetimer.

Must kill him that Cuomo owned that slot.

CNN…please offer a better deal to Chris Cuomo.

There's far better solutions than Chris Cuomo. He's like one of those actors who is so famous they can't be subsumed into any part. Cuomo can't get over himself, makes himself I love you brother the dominant part of the show. If people want his ego trip he's currently broadcasting but the numbers are pathetic. So what does that tell you about the need for a better deal to Cuomo? He's not off air, he's just not a draw.

Tapper's ratings were actually worse than any MSNBC show 6-10pm. Let's see how he's doing without a Biden interview.

Tapper 854k

MSNBC 6PM 1.387 7PM 1.287 8PM 1.371 9PM 1.586 10PM 1.569 11PM 1.015

CNN is really fucked.

Is Chris Matthews dead…or no? We might delight in his rapid, motor mouth, take no prisoners reparteé.

Something seemed to happen to Tapper in the last few years. I don't remember him as a laugh riot but he's just become so dour and grumpy. I can't see him fronting a show without a tie. He's got no warmth. He's a scold. There's been a few times he's been called out on his tweets and he never backs down.

CNN big guns are out for the hearing. Anderson opened then Tapper and now John King. ...I know.

Is there an official thread for the hearing today?

DL Republican boyfriend Adam K will be on with Jake Tapper tonight

[quote]Is there an official thread for the hearing today?

Yes:

Asshole Dasha Burns is doing something wrong when Asshole Mary Katherine Ham protects you.

Laura Coates and Alisyn Camerota as cohosts is not working for me. Neither is trying to sell Jake Tapper as a laid-back genial host. He’s just not suited for the role. He needs to stick to reading the news.

Whoever is coming up with these ideas needs to be fired.

[quote]Laura Coates and Alisyn Camerota as cohosts is not working for me.

I like them both individually, but I agree the team-up doesn't work. There's no need for two hosts on a talking heads show, it's just awkward.

Wednesday's ratings

Erin Burnett 7PM 839k

Anderson 8PM 826k

Blitzer 6PM 769k

The Lead/Berman 4PM 739k

Tapper 9PM 737k

Lol. Even Berman has better ratings at Tapper's usual 4PM spot.

Who’s getting fired today?

R489 At 9PM Tapper is up against Sean Hannity. 2,856.

No one will fare well against him.

^Actually, Tucker Carlson is Faux News most watched program at 8PM. Cuomo did fine in the same time slot and was CNN's most watched show.

[quote]Actually, Tucker Carlson is Faux News most watched program at 8PM. Cuomo did fine in the same time slot and was CNN's most watched show.

Yes, Cuomo's show was CNN's most watched show, but that's not saying much. Tucker creamed him in the ratings.

Cuomo is still up against Tucker and how's that going?

"...Cuomo dead last among the cable news competition in the 8 p.m. hour, which was won by Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson Tonight with 2.875 million viewers—an audience roughly 20 times larger than Cuomo’s. " (Forbes Oct 4, 2022,)

^Not exactly a fair comparison when most people don't even know Newsnation exists.

Fox continues to overwhelm CNN end MSNBC combined

The best Cuomo can land is a channel nobody knows exists, but somehow he's the victim?

[quote]Not exactly a fair comparison when most people don't even know Newsnation exists

In other words, Cuomo doesn't have a following.

If Tucker or Rachel moved to Newsnation, their viewers would seek them out.

No one cares about Chris Cuomo. He's finished.

My parents loved Cuomo on CNN. They watched one of his NewsNation shows and said it was terrible, they're not watching it again.

Did Cuomo not leave ABC on good terms? It seems like he should just go back to his old job there.

From CNN Business: “When Chris admitted to us that he had offered advice to his brother’s staff, he broke our rules and we acknowledged that publicly,” the network said in a statement. “But we also appreciated the unique position he was in and understood his need to put family first and job second. However,” the network said, “these documents point to a greater level of involvement in his brother’s efforts than we previously knew. As a result, we have suspended Chris indefinitely, pending further evaluation.”

So the guy's conduct caused him reputational damage. Journalism is a business that is supposed to rely in part on ethics and standards. So why would ABC or anybody with some vestige of respectability want the guy back? Hopefully the whole world isn't ruled by the I like him/he's hot standard.

I'm not wading through 500 posts to see if this has been posted. Yet more proof - as if it was needed - of CNN's bankruptcy as a news service and that it makes it up to suit agenda.

[quote] Journalism is a business that is supposed to rely in part on ethics and standards.

Under Jeff Zucker it wasn't. Cuomo just gave Zucker what he wanted. As seen also in r501

r501 that clip is old and not really memorable considering the protest, Covid and Trump hell the US was experiencing during summer 2020. And furthermore I think most people have enough sense to know that CNN and cablenews is profit generating infotainment. Non-biased ethical journalism doesn't generating ratings.

They need to fire whoever decided CNN should be Republican lite. A lot of people turned it off when that happened and went to MSNBC. It’s good for MSNBC though. I guess if you work for CNN and are trying to improve MSNBC’s ratings, that’s…nice?

R503 Neither the age nor the impact of the clip is relevant. It's the bankruptcy of the agenda-driven reportage. Which is indicative of all media. The belief that MSNBC is not the identical "infotainment, biased" reportage. Or that the absence of "ratings" somehow ensures "nonbiased" or "ethical" reportage.

At a certain point, decimating the people their audience is tuning in to see in favor of the opposite political party is going to hurt them. But if there’s a MAGAt running it now, will they care? Fox has kept commentators who lost every sponsor and kept running them at a loss, just to continue to broadcast their political view. I’m pretty sure foreign (Russian) investors paid for that, because who can afford to run a program at a loss? They were getting paid somehow. But hopefully Putin does have the money to finance two American networks any more. All they’re going to do is destroy CNN, not turn it into MAGAt 2.0, which might be the point anyway

^ Hopefully Putin does not have the money to run two networks, sorry

The fiery inferno pic would never happen today with those words.

Far more pernicious is this type of tweet.

R508

So this Andrew Kaczynski is writing a tweet that his new CNN bosses would like because Walker was an embarrassment last night.

Him, Tapper are now 100% fools IMO.

It was Acosta 🕵️‍♀️

[quote]Fox continues to overwhelm CNN end MSNBC combined

This is kind of meaningless. Fox News viewers are overwhelmingly old people, and many of those viewers leave their TVs on nonstop. This is reflected in the advertising you see on Fox - they don't generally get big wealthy advertisers. CNN does better with the target ad audience (ages 18-54 or whatever). It's kind of similar to the way the National Enquirer used to boast about their circulation being much higher than the major newspapers, but no one cared because the National Enquirer audience was full of dumb and/or poor people.

CNN's advertisers are crap too.

This dude is kissing up to the CNN bosses.

R511

Not true.

Fox beats CNN and MSNBC in the 25-54 demo. Beats them by far individually. And still beats them combined.

Tonight is the night-

Maddow vs Tapper.

My $ is on the Lesbian.

I like the format of 10 - 11 but the ladies are tripping over each other and don't have a lot of chemistry. Berman and Camerota would be amazing in that format.

That forced handoff banter between Tapper and the 10pm ladies is painful to watch. Jake Tapper is totally unsuited for this new role the bosses have foisted on him.

Agreed, R517. Saw it tonight. Laura Coates talks too much, Camerota appears to wish she was home in bed, Jake is under pressure to deliver a kind of likeable he isn't. Painful.

See, that's why I like MSNBC at night. Or used to. I started with Anderson on CNN at 8 PM, then went to Maddow, and closed with LAwrence O Donnell. Lawrence is soothing. Laura Coates is fine as weekend anchor in the afternoon or evening. She does very well as legal analyst. But she and Alisyn together is not going to work. Alisyn and the African American guy she was on with in the afternoon were perfect. Alisyn and BErman were perfect. But the personalities of the two women together doesn't work. BTW: IS Acosta still on the air? What's his time slot right now?

Cuomo interviewed Kanye last night. What a shit show. I don't get why this guy gets a national platform. He's dumb, mentally ill, an antisemit and his music sucks.

Really?

[quote]Alisyn and the African American guy she was on with in the afternoon were perfect. Alisyn and BErman were perfect.

Did you think? I thought they just didn't click. It was cordial and polite but they didn't have a rhythm - and I like both of them, just not together. Agree, she and Berman were a natural paring. They just clicked. I used to anchor a thousand years ago in a medium market - nothing special. My sports guy and I didn't actually like each other much at all, but we were awesome on the air. We clicked. Took the viewership up about ten per cent over a couple of years. Off screen, we struggled to be polite. There was some strange vibe between us that it felt to me we were about ten seconds and strength of will away from slugging each other. Maybe we both wanted to fuck. Maybe he didn't like me because I was a fag. I never knew. But dammit we put on a good show!

What happened to Chub Kieler?

^ LOL. Careful, she has a devoted Recipe Swap Club on here.

R520, I thought Cuomo was given the boot by CNN?

He was terminated r525.

“Democratic circular firing squad” - Barrack Obama

Look who is it 👀

They can play this game all they want but they will be hurting themselves long term. Sciutto, for example has some impeccable credentials as far as the international Intel community. He has sources he has nurtured for years. A lot of them do. That's why they get a lot of exclusives . Barbara Starr is another one. That old war horse has Defense Department and military/industrial sources buried deep in the Pentagon and even guys who are semi retired, who won't talk to just anyone. She's nearly 80 and she will stay as long as she can work. She still has the best reports on any news show.

First promo for the new morning show.

The three anchors may not adhere to the rules of morning television. “You’re going to see a little more relaxed approach from these hosts,” says CNN development executive Ryan Kadro, and not only from their conversational tone. “What they are wearing [here] is probably close to what they are going to show up in,” he says.

How many episodes before you see Don Lemon in a pink apron for the cooking segment. And 𝑝𝑒𝑟ℎ𝑎𝑝𝑠 a chef's hat.

I love Don Lemon's 1973 polyester leisure suit and turtle neck! The show's intro should show him pulling up in an Eldorado.

Relaxed is not a word I associate with Kaitlin. Ugh. So essentially they want to copy the morning news on ABC, NBC, and CBS? The old fashioned Network bullshit hour? Will they feature musicians and cooking demonstrations?

Don Lemon has gone from prime time to 6AM.

Careerwise, it's supposed to work the other way around.

The Commie News Network has morphed into the Conservative News Network.

Will little Phil be taking over for Kaitlyn as WH correspondent when the new job starts?

Phil Mattingly is good at what he does, R536. Idk where you get “little Phil” from.

I like Phil. He's just a pocket little hottie.

I can get into some of CNN programs because Camerota and/or Coates slaughters them down with facts every single time! It would be farcical instead of a tragedy as to what the Dumplings are doing to our country.

What about Boris?????

Jake Tapper is not meant for Primetime!

[quote]I never liked CNN. I only really watched MSNBC, but they’ve been dead to me since they canceled Chris Matthews.

He's been making appearances again. Usually obscure times like 4AM as a political guest commentator. He's been punished for his "sins" and like all media types, it's time to return to the flock. Hey if Fucker Carlson can be fired 3 times from 3 different networks and hired by Fox, then Mathews should be entitled to at least 2 more new starts.

Bring back Chris Matthews. He’s the antidote to MAGA and knows how to be aggressive.

Looks like Tapper is ratings poison in the 9PM primetime slot and dragging the other hosts down with him. Only 523k people watched his show on Thursday. Even the morning and afternoon shows all had better ratings. I'm one of the people who started boycotting his show ever since he promoted Jared Kushners book on Twitter and started this both sides nonsense and invited MAGA Republicans on his show. Looks like most people don't appreciate this new version and his right-wing talking points and viewers are abandoning his show in droves.

Interestingly, Cuomo is already NewsNations highest rated program with 123k viewers. A couple more weeks and Tapper and Cuomo probably have the same number of viewers.

Jake's monologues are well written but they're boring as a bag of hammers. It's a bad idea. Somehow, Jake's moment passed a few years ago. He's fine but he's the next Wolf Blitzer not anything else.

[quote] A couple more weeks and Tapper and Cuomo probably have the same number of viewers.

Oh, definitely. Might not even take a couple of weeks.

Am I missing something?

"Last year, Cuomo Prime Time was regularly the network’s highest-rated hour, and drew an average audience in February 2021 of 466,000 viewers, making it the fourth most-watched show in cable news among viewers 25-54, behind MSNBC’s The Rachel Maddow Show, FNC’s Tucker Carlson Tonight and CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360."

vs

"Jake Tapper, who is now hosting the 9 p.m. hour on CNN, saw a drop off in viewers from Anderson Cooper’s 8 p.m. show on Monday night. While Cooper drew 794,000 total viewers and 155,000 viewers in the advertiser-coveted 25-54 age demographic, Tapper saw 571,000 total viewers and 113,000 demo viewers at 9 p.m."

By my math, 571,000 is still more than 466,000 even if the pecs aren't as ripped.

^You're comparing total viewers with the 25-54 demo.

Cuomo had 466k viewers in the 25-54 demo. Which is quite a lot. Tapper only has 571k total viewers and only 113k in the same demo. His numbers are really bad and he's losing more and more viewers every day.

You're right Cuomo pulled numbers closer to 750-850K generally, so I don't know why Forbes reported that.

But it's unrealistic to say he'll be equalling CNN in weeks. He debuted at 147,000 figures and the most recent figure is 123,000. So losing 44,000 viewers isn't exactly #1 with a bullet and an interesting basis to predict Cuomo will have his revenge. Looks more like CNN will have the last laugh, even in its anaemic state.

^I think Cuomo lost viewers bc there's some trouble with Verizon and they (temporarily) dropped NewsNation from their lineup. I just read that on Twitter last week and I'm not sure if the situation is already resolved, but it could explain why Cuomo lost viewers.

I also think Cuomo's ratings were higher than 850k. I think he regularly had around 1.5 million total viewers and also did well in the 25-54 demo. CNN's ratings significantly dropped after the 2020 election though. The permanent chaos during the Trump administration was obviously very good for CNN's ratings and business.

Please bring back motormouth Chris Matthews, CNN.

Google his ratings. You won't find anything that takes him over a million. He never beat Cooper (which kind of surprised me.)

Technical difficulties seems a bit of stretch but I guess the numbers will speak for themselves in the next count.

Sorry, I took my own advice and there definitely were points where he was over a million... even two at the height of the lunacy... and he did occasionally beat Cooper. My bad.

R554. Nice…but that was pre-MAGAt ratings. All pre-MAGAt ratings and post-MAGAt needs to be filtered by those two opposite lenses.

He's still a blowhard. He and Tapper are just two extremes... one's prim and sour, the other's a bombastic egotist. They need to let Michael Smerconish take the nine hour and reboot the Larry King format, with unrushed, intelligent interviews of leading figures of the day. I am increasingly liking the idea behind the ten o-clock hour. It's kind of thoughtful discussion (compared to the eye-rolling Don Lemon floundering about trying to act his way through the hour.)

Aren't you tired of the endless political jousting? I'm as bored of balance opinion all the time as I am of partisan opinion all the time. If CNN wants substance, it should be redesigning part of the line up to steal the best of PBS, not cable news. (And more podcasts of Anderson Cooper's personal journey to self-discovery isn't the answer either.)

CNN has a lot of work to do but they're a long way from understanding how much.

[quote]Relaxed is not a word I associate with Kaitlin

Agree r533. I just cannot see Kaitlin and Don getting along. Don is star of this show hunny, and he will let it be known!

Plus Don will be in athletic leisure attire, not suit and tie.

Might as well show up like John Fetterman while we are at it.

I love Don's cute outfits. Maybe Kaitlin and Don will bond over their affinity for interracial relationships

I love how in that clip at R530 and the quote: “You’re going to see a little more relaxed approach from these hosts,” says CNN development executive Ryan Kadro, and not only from their conversational tone. “What they are wearing [here] is probably close to what they are going to show up in,"

They want to be more relatable to the average viewer but they show an espresso machine, a cappuccino, a croissant, an upscale locale, and Poppy and Kaitlan all dressed up as usual.

Kaitlan is such an icy cunt, whoever thought she was a good fit for a morning show is truly insane. You need someone warm and charming and not a cunty ice queen.

Don's going to dress like Shirley Partridge?

You know, some people are anchor material and some aren't. Some are absolutely brilliant as correspondents. Kaitlin has grown a lot. She has a ways to go, but she is a journalist. A Correspondent. She is not anchor material.

[quote] Hedgefunders are welfare queens whose investments are protected from loss by taxpayers.

We prefer to reefer to that as 𝑠ℎ𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑑𝑦 𝑗𝑜𝑏𝑠.

"THIS is who CNN just hired as a commentator on guns… Someone who was awarded gun lobby “reporter of the year,” who was a regular guest on the NRA’s extremists NRATV outlet, and friend of Dana and Chris Loesch…"

Hiring somebody to talk about guns who actually knows something about guns. Intolerable.

[quote]He's still a blowhard. He and Tapper are just two extremes... one's prim and sour, the other's a bombastic egotist. They need to let Michael Smerconish take the nine hour and reboot the Larry King format,

Fuck no! That half assed Republican turned "independent" with his "both sides" bull shit is the last thing we need.

He cant even handle his own critics and feels obligated to read them on the air and popos their argument with his own silly simplistic response.

Lol r68, then you watched yesterday Smerconish show as well?

His both sides-ing was off the charts yesterday.

Jake Tapper was never anchor material.

I wasn't pushing that idea as a political reboot but a return to the classic Larry King format... people from all walks of life. Smerconish strikes me as a pretty low key interviewer, without being boring.

The one thing that surprises me out of all this ratings chatter is that Cooper's numbers seem to be the strongest for the whole hot mess of CNN.

THeir going to try to be 60 Minutes ish with the new Chris Wallace show.

His voice is annoying.

Wallace, Tapper, Wolf... CNN... the Cable Nasal Network.

I tried hatewatching the Jake Tapper evening show the other day and he was surprisingly brutal about Trump and all the election deniers.

I’m boycotting CNN completely, although I used to have them on in the background all day. Hopefully they will eventually get rid of the Liz Truss of network news and I can watch it in peace again.

When does The Don Lemon Morning Show start?

[quote]When does The Don Lemon Morning Show start?

Nov. 1.

[quote] When does The Don Lemon Morning Show start?

Bebe says the Chimp is still available if Don needs help

The Don Lemon show is going to be a disaster. Two women trying to get a word in edgewise.

I have come to the conclusion the only thing worth watching on CNN is Stanley Tucci in Italy, and the specials they do like the one on Rupert Murdoch.

Ratings don’t matter anymore. It’s all about profitability.

So let’s say CNN can make $100 in profit by being number 1. But they can make $300 in profit by being number 3, then they don’t care about the ratings.

Lowering quality and reach might not be good for ratings, but who cares because it makes more money.

It’s less expensive. So they are not paying for depth and breath of coverage. Just a tiny corner where they can frame everything in the studio and force a narrative that is manageable and cheap.

The whole model has changed.

[quote] force a narrative that is manageable and cheap.

Describing CNN clickbait from 2016 onward

What's with Jake's index finger ring?

You are spot-on r583; it explains why CNN did not send any US correspondents to the Queen's extensive jubilee celebrations last Spring.

[quote]I have come to the conclusion the only thing worth watching on CNN is Stanley Tucci in Italy,

That show is excellent. Geared to adults. The show is gentle and sweet. It meanders along. No politics. No agenda.

Wolf should never have been an anchor. Neither should Brit Hume. Both should have been content with being Senior White House Correspondents. Kaitlyn Collins joins that list.

Kaitlin Collins has one of the most annoying voices and delivery styles of anyone on TV in my memory. Erin Burnett is another one. I cannot stand to listen to either one.

R184 - Yes! Perfect assessment. Of course they're reporting exactly what the big boss is telling them to report. But when that paid reporter agrees with our own opinion, now the reporter is reporting with integrity., he's an independent reporter. He's brave etc. OMG give me a break.

[quote]the only thing worth watching on CNN is Stanley Tucci in Italy,

I also agree. It's not filled with anger, lies, hate, that all the politics seem to thrive on. It's a nice break from the news or social issued of the week turned into weekend 2 hour specials.

The Murdoch documentary is excellent. Would be great if CNN does more documentaries, we don't really need extra hours rehashing the News Event of the Day like they do on MSNBC.

Even though we have this 24/7 news cycle the American public and voters in particular are less informed today than they were 50 years ago. It's all hype qwithout context. It's all about profits.

[quote] It's all hype qwithout context.

The variety of news publications I used to follow are now little better.

When I lived in Europe I thought CNN International was excellent with news coverage only rather than pundits spinning. Was it the advent of Fox News that turned CNN into a spinmeister's haven? MSNBC already does that for the left so it seems superfluous. I would appreciate a news channel like the BBC that does only news, not spin. Currently CNN covers very few news stories. There is the News Story of the Day - like on MSNBC - where each anchor/pundit tries to spin it while totally ignoring everything else going on in the world. International coverage is non-existent now unless the US or Israel are directly involved. The rest of the world can just drop dead.

They create, nurture and feed conflict for profit. If there wasn’t 24/7 Shitker saga coverage, he’d a goner. Literally. He thrives with all the media attention because it makes his puny, ED, mushroom nub feel big.

CNN International is much better than the U.S. version. But in general, the way our media covers politics is really inadequate at best. I'm not watching political coverage anymore. I watch returns on election night. I will watch an important DoJ announcement or something the POTUS says. But as far as the way they interpret predict and analyze is is a joke. No one does disasters like CNN. Earthquakes, floods, hurricanes, terrorist attacks, wars, etc. Excellent.

I started watching CNN way back during 9/11. At the time they were always the first to get video of things on the air and their reporting was very straightforward. But thanks to FOX and all their one sided shit CNN eventually had to compete for all the rubes that wanted that. So now it's shit just shy of Fox. I think it's odd Repugs call in liberal, it's not. There's more Repugs on CNN than I can count.

[Quote]CNN International is much better than the U.S. version.

Nah, CNN International is bad. They have a slate of extremely annoying hosts like Richard Quest, Amanpour or Chatterly. They also have extremely boring scheduled programs like "Inside Africa" or "World Sports" (basically just soccer) that run for hours while you're desperately waiting for current US news.

We need a new thread.