FBI executes search warrant on Mar-a-Mago!

*Mar-a-Lago

^^^Home of Lardass Mango

(currently in Twitter rumor mode, waiting to see if news sources confirm)

(if confirmed, remember you heard it here first)

And the walls come tumbling down....we hope!

Mar-A-MAGALardo

yes, confirmation pls

Mel-a-Go-Go where Mel presents her cunt every night.

Confirmed by NYT and CNN! Hah!

Shitler's statement just released.

I don't see it on the NYT site. Or CNBC...

[quote]Shitler's statement just released.

He's a bigger drama queen than any gay man I've ever met.

LEGIT link pls

Well, Maggie Haberman tweeted seven minutes ago so we should continue to monitor.

Maggie Haberman is pretty legit, R11.

Erin Burnett says it's true!

Erin Burnett now reporting it on CNN.

The funniest part of that statement is that Mango Man actually thinks he was legitimately a president. Drumpf was never a REAL president.

Rachel will have to throw out her whole show!

Thank you, R13.

MSNBC is reporting it, excitedly.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH!

It’s true. Donnie is big time pissed.

So, the Orange Skidmark's MAGA-LARD-O is being searched by the FBI. The net is tightening on his MAGA-LARD-O ass!

....

MSNBC is calling it a "Raid".

"They even broke into my safe!" whines Donald.

My heart bleeds.

That's Trump's own words, R26.

Trump took sensitive paperwork with him to Land o Lakes to sell to the highest bidder.... That thing of him just finding he had taken items from the Oval Office, a few months ago, alone should be enough to disqualify him from the presidency

Those, not that's. I apologize, I am so excited.

Does Donald feel *violated*?

Because I hope he feels violated.

[quote]“After working and cooperating with the relevant government agencies, this unannounced raid at my home was not necessary or appropriate."

LMFAO. Insane shit-stain.

Whatever are you referring to, R32?

Big news day! Sad about Olivia but this fucker is getting his comeuppance.

Eric Trump:

We truly live in a third world country!

[quote] Whatever are you referring to, [R32]?

Did you skip reading anything before that?

[quote]Big news day! Sad about Olivia but this fucker is getting his comeuppance.

On top of the Anne He he drama... it's all too much!

Hide the illegal workers!

Shitgibbon is served.

R32 = Kim Guilfoyle.

Have another line of coke, bitch.

[quote] Erin Burnett says it's true!

I’m going to Dubai!

[quote] We truly live in a third world country!

Florida *is* a third world dictatorship.

R8, let me guess (because I sure as hell won't read his garbage): He's the most persecuted human in the history of the world.

R32: Cry harder, fucking MAGA princess.

STILL not on the NYT site.

Go ahead, proceed at a glacial place, you know how that thrills me.

My skin is crawling with glee!! Finally, what he did to our country is gonna catch up to his broke, lard ass.

Look out for flying ketchup!

Fox News is reporting that Mar A Lardo is "Under Siege"!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Donald isn't dumb enough to hide incriminating evidence in his own home. Or is he?

He is

Merry Pedo...trump and company..

I hope they checked the toilets.

Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV... Safe!

This made my day!

[quote]STILL not on the NYT site.

They're busy getting reactions from Qanon supporters in the Villages.

Holy shit, CNN is reporting Dump was in NY and is currently staying at Bedminster. I truly hope they found what they were looking for and he didn't move anything to NY or NJ.

Fuck off, R32 MAGAT.

Block r32, Melanoma is sad that they trashed her massage oils.

agreed R60

Does R32 know he's absolute scum or do we have to tell him?

Are you fucking kidding me? So you white trash cockroaches just pretend Trump wasn't the biggest piece of Fascist shit to ever be "elected"? That you and your fellow terrorists couldn't accept he LOST and tried to steal the election by KILLING MoC and the VP, because he's always been a sore loser and parasite?

You people are fucking sick. You actually think you're above the law. Go live in Somalia, you cunt. You don't belong here.

Grab him by the pussy.

Freepers are losing their shit.

Now maybe people will now STFU about Merrick Garland not doing anything.

Now I feel better and I will block 32 as well.

Yeah sure, R32. Nothing like a President leveraging the power of the government and legislated U.S. foreign policy and allocated funds to Ukraine to try and force the Ukrainian President into a dirty tricks propaganda scheme against his opponent, right? Is that why you’re crying big elephant tears?

August 8, 1974 Richard Nixon announced his resignation due to the Watergate scandal.

Let August 8, 2022 be another date that will stand in the history books as THE turning point in taking down this POS, his family and his corrupt conspirators.

Lock 32 up with Trump!

Fire up the Lizzo song!

The news spreads:

donald j. trump = poor perpetual victim

I hope he hid lots of documents in plain sight in there, thinking the FBI would never dare search it.

Most of the damning stuff has probably been burned or flushed by now.

SNATCH THAT WIG!

Freepers are always losing their shit.

It’s funny that NOW they think it’s banana republic time but didn’t recognise any similarities during Trump’s actual presidency like maybe when Barr completely obfuscated the Mueller Report or when Trump incited violence at the capital?

Also that after Whitewater and Benghazi they refer to THIS as a fishing expedition.

Do they honestly believe Trump is some Boy Scout? Like they don’t see the crime and corruption at all?

This should have been done sooner.

FBI returns electronic devices back to Trumps personal lawyer, then a few days later they raid Lardo's castle. 🧐

I'm sure he did r73. Probably in a big file labeled "high crimes and misdemeanors."

These conspirators are nothing if not super competent.

CNN: A sources says the raid began early Monday morning and it continued throughout the day. Law enforcement personnel appeared to be focused on Trump's offices and personal quarters.

[quote]Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV... Safe!

Peeing hookers, real estate scams, three wives, mushroom dick exposed, used Depends clogging the toilets, empty ketchup bottles, TV on Faux News all day.....should have never thought running for president was a good idea!

Wow r79, and it just came out now? I’m surprised it didn’t leak this morning.

I hope they busted right in and broke the doors down.

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I knew Marjorie Merriweather Post was running guns or something out of there.

The thread at Free Republic has been pulled.

August 8th! Make it a national holiday!

Is anyone watching Fox? Have they mentioned Hunter Biden yet?

CNN: Search warrant was related to the investigation into the handling of classified materials taken when Trump left the White House in January 2021.

Big raid! Beautiful raid! Best raid EVER!

I'd give up sugar for a week if I could read the sworn affadavit that was presented to the judge who signed the search warrant.

NYTimes:

[quote] Is anyone watching Fox? Have they mentioned Hunter Biden yet?

"Guest says this undermines faith in the peaceful transfer of power"

Have they checked Melania's poosay for hidden documents?

That's a big job, r93. They've sent for more men.

This is a rare treat and hope that there's much more to come.

Dear god, can SOMETHING come from this?!

[quote] Senior White House officials found out about the FBI’s Mar a Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar

Man, the WAPO is way behind. I just looked at their website and not a word.

Old article but Trump wanted war with the FBI - he got it!

Big Baby Trump is crying about Hillary again and her emails saying nothing ever happened to her...uhh she testified, twice for over 12 hours and it was found she did not violate the law...you fucking oragne turd. I hope tbey BURY him and his whole family.

Did they find the box with the balls of the castrated Republican congressman?

Would love to know where that "guest" was on Jan 6 r92. Would seriously love to know.

It's breaking news on the front page of The New York Times online edition. I can't wait to read the Daily Mail's reporting later. Although they're conservative, it doesn't stop them for going after a good story with all the sensationalizing we expect from that tabloid.

R93 R94 They're waiting for hazmat crew to dredge it.

I hope they remember to pick up all the classified documents Donald stole last year.

Were they able to free Barron?

The Daily Mail is right wing asswipe.

[quote] The search, according to two people familiar with the investigation, appeared to be focused on material that Mr. Trump had brought with him to Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence, after he left the White House. Those boxes contained many pages of classified documents, according to a person familiar with their contents.

[quote] Mr. Trump delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by officials with the National Archives for many months, only doing so when there became a threat of action being taken to retrieve them.

[quote] Mr. Trump was known throughout his term to rip up official material that was intended to be held for government archives.

This and Alex Jones' texts turned over to the January 6 committee....very nice. Very nice, indeed.

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[quote]I hope they remember to pick up all the classified documents Donald stole last year.

See R88.

Agreed, r107, but they break a lot of stories first and have the best photos.

Zay actialley call me a hoar !

It's right wing, but it but they don't let that get in the way of a good story which I wouldn't say about Fox news.

I am so delighted that this was made public.

Teflon Don is getting what he dearly longed for…a powerful government that people fear and respect.

Except it’s not happening in the way he envisioned.

For the right wing MAGAs on this thread. Pres. Biden had no part in ordering this raid. He takes no part of running the DOJ. If you want to blame someone for this decision you can blame the head of the Justice Department.

fucking Fox is already spinning this as "banana republic" rather than the fact that TRUMP STOLE 15 FUCKING BOXES OF CLASSIFIED MATERIAL which is a clear crime

they're of course saying Biden and the DOJ/FBI are corrupt/politicized and that Trump is a victim

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But what what what about her emails?

r117 Or the head of the FBI, who was handpicked by Trump.

It could be related to tax fraud. Or passing state secrets to the Russians. Or maybe he’s been raping his grandkids. Really hard to guess.

Lock them up now and sort it out later!

[quote]The thread at Free Republic has been pulled.

There's a couple of others there.

FBI reported when they arrived at Mar a Lago hearing many toilets flushing.

R122 CNN has reported it's about the stolen classified info

and Fox is whining they took 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago lol

[quote] I am so delighted that this was made public.

Trump himself disclosed it. I don't think the FBI is required to inform anybody when they execute a search warrant.

Even negative attention turns Trump on, the sick bastard.

I have to believe Mar-a-Lago has its own surveillance cameras.

Would it surprise anybody if Trump released those publicly?

[quote] Would love to know where that "guest" was on Jan 6 [R92]. Would seriously love to know.

It's not hard to guess, R102

[quote] Sexton was born in Manhattan, New York on December 28, 1981. He has a bachelor’s degree in political science from Amherst College.

[quote] Sexton is a former Central Intelligence Agency officer first joining as an analyst in 2005. His assignments include the Al Qaeda-focused Counterterrorism Center (CTC) and the Office of Iraqi Analysis[4]

[quote] In 2011 he joined The Blaze as a national security editor and later worked as a contributor and eventually became a permanent anchor on Real News.[5] Sexton has filled in for Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck.

The FBI probably took those as well R128, Della. It's evidence involving national security

He loves to paint himself as a victim. Always a victim....poor bastard.

oopps, meant to add at r128, release them to show the FBI entering his safe and then whining about it.

I’d love to watch video of the FBI trashing dumps bedroom

Those nasty, nasty men defiled my gorgeous hideaway!

Wonder if he had sold classified info to someone or there was evidence he was about to. Something specific set this raid off.

As you probably know, r130, the question would be whether the affadavit supporting the request for search warrant particularized, for probable cause, the Mar-a-lago surveillance cameras as things to be siezed and searched.

I know that was awkwardly phrased but I still think it's a question.

Is FoxNews having a meltdown?

The search warrant would have been based on work done at DOJ, who would have applied to a federal judge, who would have reviewed the application and signed the search warrant, which was then executed by the FBI. Within DOJ, that search warrant application would have been created by career staff (not political appointees), and then reviewed by many levels of supervisors, likely including the Attorney General personally.

Popehat on Twitter (who is trustworthy, unlike a lot of hype viral Twitter accounts), noted two more things that stand out: the feds would need a good reason why the search was likely to turn up evidence now, so there had to be a reason why they thought Trump hadn’t yet destroyed everything (strange to me). Second, and more importantly, the feds would not have proceeded with a search warrant now if they were still uncertain or trying to decide about the appropriateness of bringing a case against a former President. DOJ would have spent a long time and many discussions deciding whether for policy reasons (like preserving the appearance of political impartiality), they should avoid going after Trump. They would have made that call before taking such a public step. So the green light is on.

“One thing is very clear. Garland would not have authorized this raid, and no federal judge would have signed off on it, if there weren’t significant evidence to warrant it”.

-David Axelrod, CNN Senior Political Correspondent

I would love to see trump in handcuffs..."escorted" out to a squad car.

Did they find anything interesting?

Lock him up!

Ben Collins:

[quote]The posts on these pro-Trump forums tonight are as violent as I've seen them since before January 6th. Maybe even moreso.

Oh boo-fucking-hoo!

FoxNews are talking about Hilary's emails and Hunter Biden in relation to the raid. Huh?

Garrett M. Graff

[quote] THREAD: “What’s the difference between this and Watergate?” Donald Trump raged in a statement Monday night after FBI agents.

[quote] Well, as a Watergate and FBI historian, four things stand out to me:

[quote] 1) The idea the FBI launched a raid on a former president would have been approved and monitored at the highest level of the Justice Department; hard to even imagine how high the bar of probable cause must've been for the Bureau to initiate such a politically sensitive search....

[quote] 2) A search warrant means an independent federal judge ALSO signed off on the probable cause and, independently, believes evidence there was likely a crime committed AND that more evidence would be found at Mar-a-Lago. That's huge too.

[quote] 3) The fact the search apparently didn't leak until basically when word came from Donald Trump himself shows the FBI and the Justice Department conducted this search by the book and a high degree of integrity. No leaks? Impressive. Surely only a small team knew inside DOJ....

[quote] 4) Taken together, this is one of the most significant, sensitive, and politically explosive actions the US Justice Department and FBI has ever taken—one of a tiny handful of times it's ever investigated a president.

[quote] [bold] Bottom line: The FBI & DOJ must've known they had the goods. [/bold]

Look who crawled out from under her rock, and is going on about “unchecked government power”.

r32 r37 Trump is a treasonous wannabe dictator. And you are lovingly licking his stinking asshole.

Bet they can't fit the hog into a cell with anyone else!

Maybe Donald was keeping Hillary’s server and Hunter’s hard drive at Maggot a Lardo.

r143 Yep, they're losing their shit because that place functioned almost like the White House during his regime, so it has an air of sacredness in deplorables' minds. The Q-nuts see it as the seat of his continued presidency in exile.

This as good as the Oscars live threads.

Fox is going on and on about the midterms. Claiming the FBI and DOJ are using this raid to influence the midterms....again. Trump is a former president. He's not on the ballot motherfuckers and this is not 2024 or a presidential election. Did I miss something? What does it have to do with the midterms if the DOJ raids the home if a former president? We don't care about his bought endorsements and he should be in jail anyway and not thinking about running again.

Here's the NYT story, archived (no paywall).

Trump says nothing like this has ever happened to a US President. Now he knows how we feel. We never had a President like him before.

[quote] “These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents,” Mr. Trump said in the statement. “Nothing like this has ever happened to a President of the United States before,” Mr. Trump said.

LOL at Candace Owens wanting to defund the police.

I'll believe it when I see him indicted/arrested. There have been too many "this is it" events about this shitstain, always leading to no recrimination.

If this were only about the boxes that he improperly removed from the White House in January 2021, it is not likely that they would have executed a search warrant in this fashion. It must be more than that. And if Merrick Garland signed off on this — and he did — they must be absolutely certain of the implications of the materials they were after.

R156, I've felt like that as well. However, this is different. This is significant.

[quote] This as good as the Oscars live threads.

This is why I adore DL. You are wonderful r152. Smoooch….. too bad we couldn’t have had Will Smith present the search warrant on him….

R157, current theory, from a NY Times reporter: Trump lied to the FBI and withheld classified documents months earlier when the FBI came to collect the documents he had misappropriated when he left the WH.

Donald Trump Jr. is preparing to make a statement.

Garland crawled out of his hidey-hole and spoke on television to say nobody is above the law the other day for a reason, and this was probably it. He and this current FBI would not execute a warrant on Donald Trump unless they are looking for something specific.

My guess is Trump was selling documents or going to sell them.

[quote]Trump himself disclosed it. I don't think the FBI is required to inform anybody when they execute a search warrant.

Dana Bash said a “source close to Trump” told her Trump shared the news because he believes it will benefit his 2024 presidential campaign. It certainly has riled up the MAGAts.

They need to dig up Ivana's grave and see what Donald hid in there.

There’s no way djt would willingly destroy classified/top secret documents that he had squirreled out of the WH.

[quote] There’s no way djt would willingly destroy classified/top secret documents that he had squirreled out of the WH.

He would if they made him look bad or showed he did something illegal.

I wish trump would just drop dead.

[quote] he believes it will benefit his 2024 presidential campaign

And the Old Con Man knows his easy marks very well and he's right. His moronic followers will send him their pennies. The Big Grift never ends.

[quote] Hillary Clinton should just show up on Maddow and laugh for ten minutes

The questions are WHAT documents did he steal and WHY.

This thought has occurred to me as well (albeit not as humorously). If Jared or Ivanka skip the country, the jig is up.

NoelCaslerComedy

[quote] I can’t stop thinking about Jarvanka trying to slip out of the country right now, standing there at the airline ticket counter with a Hermès scarf and oversize sunglasses, am also picturing what Vanky’s wearing.

R165, I agree. Trump destroyed many documents while he was IN the WH. He took documents that he wanted to keep—or sell.

Does this mean his MAGA crowd will now storm FBI Washington headquarters.

Trump may think this is his last chance to get the GOP on his side ahead of a big primary fight with DeSantis.

R172 I bet security will be very tight. It’s a scary time right now with all these Trump lunatics, mass shootings, and the Jan. 6 stuff.

They might also want to check Ivana’s coffin.

Me too, R167

Melanie posting at R176.

Can her coffin be exhumed? It's on trump's property...not a cemetary. I'm not sure, but it wouldn't be easy to do on private property. Which is probably why he had Ivana buried at his golf course.

I feel like any docs he wanted to steal for his own personal gain, he wouldn’t store where he lives. It would be the obvious place to look. Don’t be surprised if nothing's found and Trump adds this raid to his repertoire of Witch-hunt bitching. It’s probably what he wants.

Damn autocorrect.

How did they keep this under wraps? Is justice actually coming? Will we actually get to see this criminal cunt frogmarched in front of the world?

I need to see him go through it. A trial and a conviction. And just as he’s about to walk into jail, Biden pardons him. This is my dream. If this happens, I’ll believe America still stands a chance.

[quote] Trump shared the news because he believes it will benefit his 2024 presidential campaign. It certainly has riled up the MAGAts.

And by "benefit" he means "increase donations to"

Because of assholes like his family, R36. They literally used the govt as a cash register.

Fox News now:

Two-tiered system of justice: Trump raided, while Hunter Biden still not charged for dodgy dealings.

He should never be pardoned.

[quote] Donald Trump Jr. is preparing to make a statement.

"Me want coke!!", I'm guessing

You know this makes a Trump 2024 presidency a sure bet, right? I know you are enjoying the humiliation but this raid is red hot fuel to his base. Seriously, strap in because you're getting this idiot from 2024 - 2028.

I've heard this was about securing documents for the National Archives? What the hell could the archivists want? So not even about Jan. 6, not about his Epstein connections, not about Russian interference, it's about conversations with Kim Jong Fuckface?

Enjoy it while it lasts. This shit will buy Republican rule for the rest of your life.

No pardons for Mango Cheatolini.

FINALLY something GOOD is coming from this asshole's Presidency.

It's unfortunate that once again,we are letting the Trumps control the news cycle

HE broke the story

HIS mean "Truths" are being reported

HIS kids are making comments

HIS people are all in arms.

Meanwhile, complete silence from our side.

Did you post that verbal diarrhea on another thread, R187? The trolling talking points are unmistakable.

[quote]You know this makes a Trump 2024 presidency a sure bet, right? I know you are enjoying the humiliation but this raid is red hot fuel to his base.

His base isn’t big enough to guarantee a win.

No comment is necessary. He’s in deep shit.

You are right R191. I hate that dump is still in the news cycle. I hate it!

R179, they took boxes of documents away, according to daughter in law Lara Trump (on FOX of course).

[quote] this raid is red hot fuel to his base. Seriously, strap in because you're getting this idiot from 2024 - 2028.

His base could not get him elected in 2020. There aren’t enough of them to get him elected in 2024, no matter how red hot they are tonight.

His shitty diaper is fuller than usual.

[quote] Enjoy it while it lasts. This shit will buy Republican rule for the rest of your life.

In your dreams, traitor troll

[quote] Don’t be surprised if nothing's found and Trump adds this raid to his repertoire of Witch-hunt bitching. It’s probably what he wants.

I'll be very surprised "if nothing's found", with good reason.

Your statement here would require me conclude that Merrick Garland authorized the affadavit and request for search warrant based upon shaky probable cause and because they thought a federal judge would just say,

"Raise your right hand, FBI agent. Do you swear you're just winging it and maybe you'll find something and maybe you won't. Here's my signature."

That's not how it works. Those FBI agents are coming out of Mar-a-Lago with, as sonny Corleone in "The Godfather", "more than just their dicks in their hands."

Remember what America was talking about the weekend before 9/11? Anne Heche telling Baba Wawa on 20/20 that she was an extraterrestrial. Just sayin’.

They were looking for classified documents and you can be CERTAIN that they knew they were there before they dared to do something this daring and unprecedented. They MUST have had backup to assure them as to the presence of what they were going in to retrieve.

Trump cannot run for federal office if he is convicted of a federal crime. That can include stealing Presidential records, or making a false statement to a federal official.

My guess is that they have evidence of a direct financial/spy link between Trump and Russia. I can't imagine anything else that would rise to the level of a FBI raid on a former president's residence.

R203 That is correct and I believe the plan. I fucking love it.

R196 - sorry, I meant documents he shouldn’t have taken. He could easily have boxes of his own personal documents. I’m hoping they find shit, though.

What crimes has he NOT committed?

Someone from the inner circle has sung. That's why they knew exactly what to look for. This wasn't a fishing expedition by any means.

Yes R203!

MAGA cultists apparently gathering outside Mar-a-Lago right now to pray the FBI away.

Has Brandon commented?

No R156. This is very very different.

That's what I think, too, r208

My guess is Mark Meadows is singing like a Meadowlark.

This has to be big and important and urgent

Or the Democrats are dumb as fuck not to spend another few weeks taking victory laps around Biden getting legislation passed and handing the news cycle to Trump

r211 Yes, the White House released a statemen t saying they didn't know the search was going down.

I think the FBI, while normally silent on stuff like this, needs to come out—and soon- and tell us why this occurred.

Richmond area right wing faggot, John Reid, is losing it...

[quote]America’s third world banana republic status under Biden has now been formally reached. How many times will we allow THE SAME GOVERNMENT AGENCIES to lie and defame this particular man?!?! Every lie has been debunked and they STILL keep on coming on the attack! After 6 years of this garbage over and over to attack people large and small this is ALL corrupt political theater orchestrated by rabid partisan Democrats imbedded in the FBI and DOJ. We have watched prominent Democrat after Democrat skate with barely a question from the bureaucracy. It has to stop.

Then...

[quote]I’m just hoping the FBI finds Hillary’s mysterious vanishing email server and Hunter’s crack stash and porno laptop and transcripts of Joe’s Ukraine bribery threats in the safe at Mar a Lago….. cause I’m guessing then this whole mess would be forgotten. Democrat deceit and abuse must NOT be allowed to stand or continue. And the FBI and DOJ must be cleaned up. We know the federal government employees bragged about being “The Resistance” and they are continuing their lawlessness now. It cannot be allowed! And it never should have been allowed!

R214, “the Democrats” are not doing this.

The Democrats are not in control of FBI operations, R214.

His narcissistic wound must feel like Anne He He’s burns right now. Plates full of ketchup will be flying tonight.

I do hope Barron is holed up with mummy somewhere safe.

"Georgia conspiracy theorist now wants to defund the police."

[quote] Dana Bash said a “source close to Trump” told her Trump shared the news because he believes it will benefit his 2024 presidential campaign

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH WHUT??? Trump can’t run for office when he’s in prison. My god the ABSOLUTE DELUSION of these fucking nuts.

I’m sure they found Trump’s stash of child porn. He’s such a fucking creep.

[quote] MAGA cultists apparently gathering outside Mar-a-Lago right now to pray the FBI away.

If this is true, and someone finds a link, please post it.

Maybe this will grind trump so much, he'll have a heart attack.

I know nothing.

It's not R225

Trump is in NYC and the FBI was there this morning, they're long gone.

OTOH, MAGAts are dumb enough to do this, so never mind

It was Olivia's dying wish that Trump be brought to justice.

R218/219 - not sure the FBI operates independently of DOJ on this sort of thing

Trumper Trolls try to be stealthy, but they're as obvious as neon.

They remind me of those characters in slap-stick comedies who hide behind a prop of a potted palm and move it around a large, thinking nobody sees them.

Kaitlin Collins:

I'm told investigators visited Mar-a-Lago in recent months to speak to Trump's attorneys about material taken from the White House. Trump's attorneys showed investigators documents, though it's unclear which ones & how many. Trump was present on property at time of visit.

If true R210, I’m sure Trump will have someone pass collection plates.

Right wing queen and renowned racist, John Reid, is trying to incite violence...

[quote]Ryan Summerlin: He needs to gives the Patriots the go ahead! This country will deal with these tyrants.

[quote] I think the FBI, while normally silent on stuff like this, needs to come out—and soon- and tell us why this occurred.

I am sure every network has already filed a freedom of information request for the search warrant. If Trump doesn't release it himself.

oops, and move it around, thinking nobody can see them.

Did they touch his beer?

I'd be mad.

There's bound to be at least one MAGAt in that jury, he'll never be convicted. Just simple statistics, unfortunately.

Are the MAGATs even organized? They seem to be mentally infirm that are bussed into redneck rallies.

The FBI simply executed the warrant (as they do for DOJ search warrants). The DOJ is the government entity that applied for and received the warrant, so it’s the DOJ running this case, and which could explain what was in the warrant. But the reason no one heard about this in advance, including the White House, is most of the people who work on this don’t talk or seek fame or even post on LinkedIn. They may have moved quickly here because of the risk of document destruction or to avoid doing this too close to an election.

Who the fuck does he or any of his fucking supporters think they are? If the motherfucker took classified documents, he should get a fucking firing squad the way those cunts wanted for Obama for so much as breathing or wearing a fucking tan suit.

Who in the hell are these parasites? Are they all even American? Do they know what is to be an American? No, they're not fucking American if they think Trump should get away with every illegal fucking thing he did like a fucking third world dictator.

[quote] Trump cannot run for federal office if he is convicted of a federal crime. That can include stealing Presidential records, or making a false statement to a federal official.

Unfortunately, that’s wrong. There’s nothing in the Constitution or law to prevent a convicted felon from running or being elected president.

All the documents DOJ is looking for is probably covered in Russian hooker pee.

Wait, R241.... you are just figuring this out now?

The FBI opened Trumps safe. Problem is they can only seize the type of material they claimed to be looking for in the search warrant, if they found say kiddie porn and that wasn't what they were looking for they can do nothing with it.

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I'm still wondering if Mar-a-Lago surveillance captured the search and seizure.

I find it very hard to believe that MaL wouldn't have security cameras both inside and outside.

[quote]My guess is that they have evidence of a direct financial/spy link between Trump and Russia. I can't imagine anything else that would rise to the level of a FBI raid on a former president's residence

No, they have direct evidence that he took classified information to Mar a Lago. That's plenty right there and we already knew about that, so this isn't surprising at all.

[quote]There's bound to be at least one MAGAt in that jury, he'll never be convicted. Just simple statistics, unfortunately.

Alex Jones would like a word with you.

Protesters make their way towards Mar-a-Lago

R244, I just can't believe the fucking audacity of his cockroaches. They really think the law doesn't apply to him or them.

I’m sure they assumed they would be taped. They would have given Donnie the most perfect search warrant behavior of all time, given the risk of doing anything wrong on this one.

I am sure there are security cameras but who do they belong to, Trump or the Secret Service. If they belong to the Secret Service then they are government property not Trump's.

R249, didn't DeSantis just make it legal to run over protesters? DL Floridians, get your cars!

The crowd of elderly and Puerto Ricans should be easy to manage.

r245 WRONG. However, the kiddie porn (or evidence of other criminal activity) would need to be displayed out in the open. This is hard to do when you're searching for documents.

Most Floridians are MAGaTs, unfortunately.

R245 they can seize anything in plain sight that's clearly evidence of a crime, even if it's not what they are looking for. The problem with something like kiddie porn is that unless it's explicit photos splayed out for anyone to see, it's not likely their going to find anything like that in plain sight.

If they were permitted to seizde computers though, maybe.

^ they're

Live view of Mar-A-Lago now

[quote] I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I'm still wondering if Mar-a-Lago surveillance captured the search and seizure.

So what if surveillance captured the search & seizure? The FBI agents should have body-worn cameras, anyway. As long as the warrant is valid and the search did not go outside of what the warrant allowed, should be good.

Agreed r251

and that's a very good question, r252. I have to think cameras are in MaL since before Trump was President, but that bastard probably granted them to the authority of the SS so he could bill the government for them.

Kevin McCarthy vows revenge:

R245, please go back to law school. The Supreme Court’s “plain view” doctrine contradicts your assertion.

Live feed from outside Mar-a-Lago!

Kevin must be confusing himself for someone who'll come out of this relatively unharmed.

Criminals R262 lashing out at authorities. How quaint.

[quote] WRONG. However, the kiddie porn (or evidence of other criminal activity) would need to be displayed out in the open.

R255 and others, I made the assumption that since Trump left Florida for the summer he didn't leave kiddie porn or anything else incriminating out in the open for anyone to see. Use some fucking common sense.

The trash is out cruisin' Lardo a Maggot. They think it's party time.

SuperLawer Marc Elias disagrees with you, R242.

[quote] 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

[quote] (a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

[quote] (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both;[bold] and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. [/bold] As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.

[quote]They may have moved quickly here because of the risk of document destruction or to avoid doing this too close to an election.

With the revelation about 10 days ago or so that Trump was indeed being investigated, he should have known this was coming.

Wonder where all those "arrest Merrick Garland, he's letting Trump get away with this" panic posters are right now? I remember one still posting a couple of days ago, pretending like there was no investigation into Trump when there absolutely was.

^ Except R267 you specifically speculated if they found kiddie porn. Just take the L.

Thanks, r249

He’s in denial that he is in serious jeopardy. He thinks he can run again and be untouchable. I really think he has the mind of a child surrounded by sycophants.

r269

Your guy Trump is one thing only - LOSER

R270 whether that can be applied to a President-elect would definitely be litigated in the courts. And this SCOTUS would side with Trump.

They didn't side with his election fraud claims. This SCOTUS reports to the Federalist Society and Mitch, not Trump.

It depends on what's found in the raid and what other evidence they have, r276. If something bad enough is found, or there's too much evidence to ignore and it's made its way into the papers, this SCOTUS will happily throw Trump under the bus to save the GOP.

Hannity rallying the troops: “They’re coming for you”.

Hannity telling Trumpsters to rise up because the FBI is coming for them next seems wildly irresponsible, even more so than usual. Is that the official Fox line, or is Hannity personally panicking?

And Giuliani is on Newsmax spitting all over the place R280. They really need to be censored, but no one will because there’s too money to be made.

I hope Trump has a lovely sleep at Bedminster tonight. The only thing better than the pants-shitting night terrors he’ll have would be if Ivana claws her way out of her pauper’s grave to exact her revenge.

The average Fox viewer is 65. They are not going to rise up.

R280, fomenting violence is now just a reflex action with these guys.

They say it but they don’t get out there themselves. It’s just an echo chamber.

The National Archives and Records know what documents weren't returned to them so the DOJ knows exactly what needed to be found - highly classified documents. Has Trump shared that info with unsavory leaders? Did he plan on selling them? I wouldn't put it past this sick fuck.

On the way to an impromptu Trump rally at Mar-A-Lago.

So far, the rallying cry seems to be “Fuck you!”

Does anyone here think this may specifically cause Trump to definitely run again? As in to avoid some kind of legal ramification?

What is the legality around that possibility? Anyone here know?

Donnie Small Hands is doomed. No running for POTUS. EVER AGAIN.

This guy is calling for voilence...

[quote]Ryan Summerlin: He needs to give the Patriots the go ahead! This country will deal with these tyrants.

He’s asking for permission.

If all he wanted was the information in those documents, he would have had them scanned or Xeroxed within a day or two of taking them, then returned them with "oops my bad, I thought these boxes held my collection of hamdingers."

He wanted the original documents, and I can't think of any reason why he would want the original documents, unless he was going to pass them on to someone else who wouldn't take a copy.

I hope something huge comes out of this

Trump's spies tipped him off and he fled to New Jersey. Then he had his operatives organize an impromptu protest to show he is loved.

I wonder if some clerk ratted him out. It sounds like they specifically told him the documents that were missing and he still refused to turn them over. Despicable person.

Finally some real improvement coming out of the USA.

Hopefully next up you will get rid of your horrific 2nd Amendment - or just bin your whole ridiculous constitution as a whole and start again - and join the Civilised World.

From various talking heads on MSNBC: Trump was told not to remove documents from the WH; he removed many boxes of highly classified documents. He returned fifteen boxes of documents and promised in writing to return anything else that turned up. He broke that agreement; he in fact kept quite a few classified documents. Therefore, he repeatedly demonstrated intent to mishandle classified documents. There are also those numerous photos of documents he ripped up and tried to flush.

R292, there could be a lot of information, such as recordings or readouts of phone calls, that he would never risk returning to the government because they implicated him (and/or other people) in crimes.

[quote]I hope something huge comes out of this

Yeah, his ass - from his home to prison.

Yes - hopefully they picked up more evidence of his crimes. He’s really a monster. I am embarrassed for anyone who fawns over him.

It was a pleasure to block R32 into fucking oblivion.

[quote] Hopefully next up you will get rid of your horrific 2nd Amendment - or just bin your whole ridiculous constitution as a whole and start again - and join the Civilised World.

The US Constitution is a lot more than the 2nd Amendment.

I'm not sure ditching your country's constitution is ever the first step to joining the "Civilized World."

I'm aware of that, r301. All of it is ridiculously barbaric and ought to be jettisoned for something closer to the EU's laws.

And it looks like the US may FINALLY be on its way. FINALLY. And the world finally exhaled.

[quote] Hopefully next up you will get rid of your horrific 2nd Amendment - or just bin your whole ridiculous constitution as a whole and start again - and join the Civilised World.

It was me that formed the basis of a free and democratic society when European countries were still dominated by corrupt hereditary aristocracies. This permitted the USA to prosper, which in turn led to the USA quite literally saving the UK and other western democracies from being conquered by fascists. (The US funded the British war effort right from the start, for instance, and Fed and armed the country as well).

So, you’re welcome!

If its so great, then why haven't all Western countries adopted the same constitution as the US? Because it leads to barbarity and people like your Trump.

My most favorite name for him is one someone on here originated: The Orange Shitgibbon.

The First Amendment is still very much worth keeping. Europeans do dick around with speech codes and shit far more than is healthy for anybody involved.

We can ditch the Third Amendment. I'd be happy to quarter some troops. It's a bit cramped, but we'll make do.

And what did European parliamentary government lead to?

First Amendment is awesome. I'm not a flag waver, but lets not pretend.

It’s interesting that someone’s trying to change the subject of this thread. I wonder who that might be?

"Johnny" on Twitter regarding McCarthy's threat:

[quote]Damn right. Oversight can be a bitch. As long as the GOP has the balls to go through with it in 5 months.

[quote]And they better, or this country is done unless we can succeed with the 2A to save it.

My reply:

[quote]Do you have a *big* gun, Johnny? No...yours is smaller than a muff pistol, isn't it? Sad.

I suspect Mar a Go Go is wired from top to bottom. Trump deals in blackmail, always has. Trump Tower is one big spying operation, and I suspect Mar a Lago is the same. It's like the American embassy in Moscow (and to be fair, the Russian embassy in DC). You start poking around the hidden cameras, I bet there is quite a story to tell.

R305, I’m not sure I’d feel so superior. Europeans have dazzling history of barbarity. Pretty much everything is an excuse for humans to be barbaric.

Nothing in Europe compares to America since 2016, r314. You voted in TRUMP. Nothing can be worse than that or him. Nothing.

Smart to send the feds in for the documents, as per Chuck Rosenberg on MSNBC, all documents can be seized. The agents don’t have to verify that the docs are the classified docs the archives want when they seize them. But whatever is found can be used in investigating any and all crimes. We may find more shenanigans.

Either this was a big deal and he was selling classified docs to the highest bidder, or it was just an easy way to justify a seizure of ALL documents in his possession because the big dumb ass couldn’t keep his desk organized an pissed off the Archives. You don’t fuck with librarians.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Okay Boris R315. Look no further than your own murderous dictator you fucking yahoo.

I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention, chief, but several European countries are now ruled by rightwing strongmen who succeeded in doing what trump half heartedly tried and failed to do.

Why’s that? Because European countries are always one step away from sliding back into fascist war-states. Our democratic institutions are stronger, and trump failed.

[127] Frank Figlucci on MSNBC just revealed that the FBI is required to give the former President's Secret Service security detail notice that they would be entering a former president's residence. Considering what's been revealed about the Secret Service erasing text messages, I feel certain the SS would have used that notice to get rid of anything that might reflect poorly on their Fuhrer.

Like photos of Lindsay Graham in compromising positions with underage male prostitutes?

I wonder how much notice r319. That's always the kicker. Also I assume most of the ones closest to him (meaning of course, corrupted by him) are with him in New Jersey or wherever he is, which ain't Florida right now.

Did anyone rise up? Sounds like they all went to bed.

Ken Delanian spells it ouit for us.

This also negates any support the Putin regime might claim.

Lobotomized sheep

[quote]Nothing can be worse than that or him. Nothing.

I beg your pardon, Mein Herr?

A vigil????

Are you sure it’s not antifa disguised as maga?

I’d haul out water canons.

He's trying to portray himself as a victim to energize bis base, who thrive on feelings of persecution because of the shit they've made of their lives.

Nothing will be found; Trump will look like he's under seige; he'll $ue everyone; then announce his candidacy for 2024.

Sorry Debbie, I think they probably found more than they need.

....

#329, I believe he deliberately set a "come 'n get me" trap by withholding a few boxes. Knowing they would go overboard and it would end-up a big nothingburger. He's always plotting.

I’m starting to wonder if that fat ass DeSantis dropped a dime on him. I’m up to start that theory.

r326 I'm not alone in thinking Trump is worse.

He's not called "Orange Hitler" in your country for nothing.

Girls, girls, you're both fascist banana republic shitholes. There's enough for everybody!

Hitler fan at R333. How far we have fallen.

The day he is indicted should become a national holiday.

Not at all, r335. It's not as though I am NOT the first person to say that Trump makes Hitler look like childsplay. Everyone says it - here in Britain, there in the US, they all say it every time I turn on the television and have been since 2015.

They ALL can't be wrong, MAGAT. Face reality!

Sorry but i didn't read the whole thread. what were they looking for? is this about stealing the top secret documents?

No big deal. A panty raid was conducted on Lady Lindz’s suite. Menz will be Menz.

r338 Yes, Rose.

Trump is awful but worse than Hitler?

Get back to us when he sends 6 million people to the gas chambers (not that he probably wouldn't try if given the chance).

Top Republicans and prominent conservatives reacted with outrage on Monday night to the news that the F.B.I. had searched the private residence of former President Donald J. Trump, with some suggesting that federal agents should be arrested and others hinting that the court-approved law-enforcement action against Mr. Trump was pushing the country toward political chaos.

What timeline are these people on who compare Trump to Hitler?

See, r341. You even said it yourself. He would if he could.

[quote]I’d haul out water canons.

Oh dear.

[quote] He needs to give the Patriots the go ahead!

Hey! That’s my job, back off.

It's flown under the radar because of the FBI search, but Manafort finally admitted to colluding with the Russians during the 2016 campaign.

R344 which still means he didn't, therefore I'll vote for the person who actually did as being the worst of the two.

Trump is Mussolini, not Hitler. Mussolini was an evil clown who did some terrible things, but he wasn't pathologically murderous like Hitler.

R277/R278 Depends on the timing. If Trump wins the primaries for 2024 and manages enough voter suppression to win the election, SCOTUS will absolutely side with him with the Federalist Society's enthusiastic support.

If the issue gets to SCOTUS before the primaries, they might throw Trump under the bus if that’s what the GOP wants. But they’d arguably have to violate the ripeness doctrine to do it (not that they wouldn’t). Besides that, what are the chances he’d be convicted that fast? The primaries are over 1.5 years from now. If Trump wins the primaries, the GOP will want him to win the election no matter what it takes.

Fine, r349. so he's Orange Mussolini more than Orange Hitler. Nevertheless, America and your ludicrous constitution produced him and his disgusting followers.

If you get rid of that constitution, there will be no more Trumps befouling the earth ever again, and the world, especially Europe, will thank you.

For now, I'm just greatly enjoying the fact that Trump was humiliated today.

Come on R151, America has enough crazy shitheads with or without the constitution, I'm disappointed that you have so little belief in us.

I despise the Orange Shitler so much that R330 is making me want to masturbate.

It’s amazing how Republicans cannot admit he committed multiple crimes and it’s all coming to roost. They are high on persecution Kool-Aid. Will they never snap out of their zombie-like trance? Why put all your eggs into the Trump basket? It’s suicide by stupidity.

The most delicious part of all of this is that the rubes who pay thousands and thousands to be members of this club having to process through a verifiable Pall Mall of deplorables when entering and exiting.

Trump cannot tell the masses at the gates to leave but he certainly doesn’t want them to stay!

Interesting this raid occurred after FBI whistleblowers came forward in July about internal problems. The head honchos must be scared. We'll probably see more whistleblowers come forward after this.

Possible Unenumerated documents from Trump safe:

1] The last set of nuclear codes and the detonation process.

2] The list of all American operatives worldwide and their stations.

3] The contracts for Trump Moscow.

4] The Israeli CIA packet on The Islamic State and the laptop bomb technology that was given to Lavrov.

5] The Saudi Arabia contracts and kickbacks since 9/11.

6] The Saudi documentation for 9/11.

7] Complete Russian kompromat files on ALL Republican Senators, and most Republican House members.

8] Complete copies of DJT and Trump Org Non-disclosure agreements.

9] Melania's "work" pictures.

10] DNA tests for all children, including Jr. Ivanka, Eric, Barron and Tiffany. Documentation of paid abortions.

11] Ivanna, Marla and Melania's "agreements".

12] Lists of all American weaponry in development.

I think they are embarrassed they love Trump and can’t admit he is a criminal? It’s WEIRD!!!

R358 government files on extraterrestrials and who killed JFK? They were shown to Shitler when he became President.

If he stole national security documents then he should be in jail. It’s not that complicated. The faux outrage is weak given that they complained about Hillary’s emails which was a nothing burger. They really have lost the thread and are venturing into stupidity.

The search warrant secures all manner of evidence and where it will lead, child porn, human trafficking, tax evasion, etc. We'll see what kind of snake pit of inequities Trump is harboring down there in Southern Florida, he's never been a boy scout...

The FBI seem like the only people who know how to run America properly.

You should just let them take over the white house and run things for a while. Suspend the 2024 elections altogether and just give the FBI a crack at it.

They know how to get things DONE!

Isn’t the average citizen including Republicans sick of Trump? He is a cancer.

R355 Maybe that's because they've been thisclose to getting Trump since [checks watch] 2016. If it's not one thing, it's another. And it seems like state and federal investigators are willing to pull out all the stops more or less on a hunch when you have Democrats who clearly broke the law seemingly get a pass or slap on the wrist (i.e. Hillary, Joe and Hunter Biden, Pelosi, etc)

Why are some of you too stupid to understand why Trump is compared to Hitler? And why it is a valid comparison, except Hitler was actually far more intelligent.

Trump is damaged goods now more than ever. The GOP will not put up with that shameless grifter who keeps all the donation money to himself. They will stick with DeSantis, who is part of the true GOP agenda and willing to share and behave.

Did anyone see that fucking white trash cunt NYPD who waived at Trump when he was coming out of the building? What a surprise that she's gleeful to see an actual criminal. How in the hell are we expected to respect these assholes who all worship a criminal?

I personally hope Republicans hold on to Trump’s little dick for as long as possible. Maybe they will lose the House and Senate. People will fight fanatics.

Trump ragin' tonight.

The Democrats need to make clear that no one is above the law. They just need three messages for November (jobs, law and order, and stability).

Perhaps this will be the "Al Capone tax evasion"'-like charge against Trump that will cause his downfall despite his perhaps hundreds of other flagrant illegal actions. He was notified by the government to return the documents by a certain date, he did not, and the docs were found on his property. Simple. The search warrant surely was a highly vetted one, so despite any challenges his lawyers raise to the validity of the search, it seems likely they will be struck down.

I have the feeling the Brit troll is just upset that they've been force-fed Boris Johnson's shit for the last three years in part because the UK...has no constitution.

Sorry, cuntlick. We'll keep our constitution and you can continue to eat shit. Looks like it's on the menu for you Brits for the foreseeable future.

Thank you, r366.

Just a quick reminder of what a grotesque freak Trump is - small hands, huge ass, bald head, orange face.

Trump is actually nothing like Hitler, not least because Trump is an opportunist.

And while Trump is lower than a tarantula's nutsack, if you think he's actually "worse than Hitler", you are either blindingly stupid or a disappointed Nazi.

LOCK HIM UP!!!!

R351, nice of you to visit boris

R358, where did you get this list ?

R378 you're gonna be very disappointed when you find out most people in the world who hate the US aren't Russian trolls

Actually, R380, it was a reference to Boris Johnson.

I will never understand people trying to evaluate a current threat with a past threat. Hitler's dead. DEAD! Trump's still alive. It's one think to know (your) history, but it's rather pointless to put Trump into some historical context to prove he is some sort of threat. Like duh, he is a big threat to mankind. We've established that a long time ago! Why are you still going on about Hitler vs. Trump?

Fuck you, r378. No one hates him more than I do, and the Boris's love him. I'm the furthest thing from a Boris you could ever find. I just want him and all he represents to be gone and never have an opportunity to ever, ever come back. And in order to TRULY ensure that, your constitution has to go too. Sorry, but it's true.

Sorry, it's one THING to know (your) history, ...

R382. Is right. Burn all of the historians at the stake! There should never ever be comparisons made between the present and the past! Like it's sooooo boring!

You fucking moron. How low is your god damned IQ?

r379 Hello again, Rose. The list at r358 is a joke.

Zero tolerance for deplorable threats. The moment a fucker puts a threat out there, arrest his/her ass.

Cunt alert at r385.

We have established A LONG TIME AGO that Trump is as much a threat as Hitler, and it's beating a dead horse by now to still make Hitler comparisons. If you have to be constantly reminded that a turned on plate is hot and water is wet, you kind of suck at life.

Cunts are cunting again

This is excellent!

Trump is absolutely a threat. he was helping the enemies. He wanted to remove the troops from Korea! and elsewhere in the world.

He didn't even build the fucking wall, which he said he would.

EXCLUSIVE: Trump could be BANNED from holding public office if he is found guilty of mishandling classified White House records - and the legal saga will be a 'huge' development for his 2024 hopes, legal experts warn

YES!!!!!

r332, I saw people in comments under De Santis's Twitter saying "you turned him in!" so that rumor has already got legs!

I hope Homeland Security is watching the right wing junk groups that are chatting quite angrily on social media tonight. Some of them are talking about taking up arms again!

Then you have repub politicians and right wing hosts who are further inflaming Trump voters with propaganda. Those assholes should all be charged with incitement if something does happen again

McCarthy is a real piece of shit threatening Garland tonight. 1 of the most pathetic human beings ever to be in US government

I do hope mainstream media keeps reiterating the facts that this FBI search warrant was properly predicated and carried out. We know the DOJ and FBI will not comment on ongoing investigations. We also know the Biden admin is not going to get involved either. Unfortunately this creates another "narrative vacuum" for Trump, repub politicians and right wing media hosts/commentators to fill up with lies

Why exactly should a single Democrat even abide by whatever bullshit McCarthy has planned for his temper tantrum? Dems would be stupid to not just ignore whatever bullshit McCarthy has planned since that's what that cockroach did himself along with countless other insurrectionist trash. Ignore any shit the GOP attempts. Do not attend a single bullshit committee about "Hunter Biden"

LOCK HIM UP!!

This is all so delicious!!!

The Hunter Biden stuff has been kept alive for this exact purpose. It was always simmering in the background so they could deploy it the second Trump started to be officially investigated. It's not really doing the job of distracting that they thought it would, probably because they've been jabbering about it for so long that no one cares anymore.

I can’t wait to find out which federal judge signed off on the search warrant. It would be a delightful twist if it was a tRump judge.

Donny has to return his love letters.

[Quote]Among the items Trump had to return were correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un that Trump has described as 'beautiful letters' and a handwritten letter that former President Barack Obama had left behind in the Oval Office for his successor.

r398

R400, someone already mentioned that it was a Trump-appointed one.

The only potential downside I could see is that it motivates the 2022 Republican voters, but that won't really matter. The FBI can just raid any new Senators and new House people who they suspect of corruption too.

It's so GOOD to know the FBI is on the side of JUSTICE.

R383, stick it up your mother's cunt.

You're a Trumpie-loving shit-sucker posing as a Brit.

YOUR only comments on this board have been in reference to me, r405. You seem extremely pissed right now,.

Meanwhile, I'm DELIGHTED.

I think that it is YOU who is the the disgusting Trumper, r405, and that is why you are so satisfyingly MAAAD.

I absolutely love it. Keep going!

[quote] I am NOT the first person to say that Trump makes Hitler look like childsplay. Everyone says it - here in Britain, there in the US, they all say it every time I turn on the television and have been since 2015. They ALL can't be wrong, MAGAT.

Of COURSE they can all be wrong, you idiot. Even supposing it was true that people said something so ludicrous "every time" you turn on your TV, what "people say" has nothing to do with evidence or facts, let alone truth. That's why people laugh when Trump says "Many people say..." : they know it means "I just pulled this out of my ass."

At one point "everyone" said Zeus was angry with them and that's why Athens got the Plague. At one time "everyone" said the Titanic was unsinkable. At one time "everyone" thought tuberculosis could be cured by mountain air. Please let us know if you think all of those people couldn't be wrong.

(Because a lot of people on here can't do basic Comprehension, I probably need to forestall a long argument by pointing out now that I am not a MAGAT but a lefty, who loathes hyperbole and likes evidence.)

Ey allreddy stik manee dokyoumint in poosey.

R405 is a moron.

r405, he may very well be a Brit. He said this in another thread recently:

[quote]since you live in Europe and this regards the United Kingdom, I would - with all due respect- suggest that you have absolutely no idea what goes on here

So he has no problem telling others not from his country to butt out of discussions, but then he comes into U.S. political threads like this one, and posts 100 times telling others what to think and what to do. Classic asshole.

410, thanks for the clarification.

The rest of my post still stands.

The idea that what's wrong with the US is the whole of the constitution is so fucking laughable, he's neck and neck with that French twat who thinks we've been stealing French words.

I've made no secret of being half British. That's why I loathe your violence-producing constitution, which I believe directly produced Trump and his minions.

I said EXACTLY THAT earlier in this VERY THREAD. Go look it up.

What's the other half?

Cum-sock?

Fuck and die. Your country just had the best day its had in YEARS and you're focussing on me just because I, like the rest of the world, thinks your constitution is shit?

Go fuck yourself. You're a good example of why American Democrats can't seem to win for losing.

"Fuck and die"?

That's not much of a pick-up line, I'm afraid.

Oh you're right, r415.

Let me reiterate:

Fuck

Off

And

Die

MAGAT

SCUM

I think the cum-sock is getting annoyed.

Not that the Constitution is going anywhere, but what exactly do you think getting rid of it would solve?

[quote]half British

Not a real thing.

This guy reminds me of those trolls on Twitter who got caught pretending to be American while tweeting things like "colour" and "Florida prefecture" and "is good, ja?" and so put things in their profiles like "born in Germany, raised in China, taught British English, now a happy stay-at-home mom in Boise!!!"

I just love how he's melting down as his anti-Constitution nonsense fails to, well, make sense, for one.

[quote]So he has no problem telling others not from his country to butt out of discussions, but then he comes into U.S. political threads like this one, and posts 100 times telling others what to think and what to do. Classic asshole.

Actually, it's classic European trash.

They always do that. Especially people from the UK and France. Trash America like they know it better than anyone who actually lives there while talking out of the other side of their mouth with "how dare you" attitude if someone dares to point out a negative issue about their country of origin.

But...but...Trump is worse than Hitler! Far worse!

And everyone hates the US constitution!! Everyone! My mummy! My daddy! My invisible friend, Mr. Deadjew!

R292 and R297 raise excellent questions and thoughts.

Consider Trump’s penchant for characterizing treasonous and illegal activity as extremely good or innocuous. His attempted blackmail-for-weapons extortion of Zelensky was, as he described it, “a perfect phone call.” (Ditto the eventually uncovered recording of his attempt to corrupt votes in Georgia.)

The fact that he referred to the never released communication from Kim Jong-un as “a beautiful letter” makes me think it more likely it was seditious. Trump would want to keep that out of his successor’s hands. He might keep it for vanity, but there would be no duplicates.

Ditto the only copies of very damaging dossiers about certain individuals.

The value of some documents may come, not just from the explosive information they contain; but also from the fact that no one [italic] else [/italic] has them.

R422, the “U.S. Constitution is evil” guy is a desperate thread derailer.

The lady has taken to her fainting couch.

Hold me Frank!

Can the two folks fighting up thread take it somewhere else please? Pls don’t suck up the whole thread with bickering.

Renato Mariotti (Former federal prosecutor):

Renato Mariotti (Former federal prosecutor):

Renato Mariotti (Former federal prosecutor):

A former DOJ official tells me that to get a warrant to search a fmr POTUS, investigators would have to have “overwhelming evidence.” “If you’re going to drop that type of paper you’d better be damn sure your Ts are crossed and your Is are dotted and it’s all double checked.”

Ok, please explain this to me because I am trying to comprehend why the rancid sewer rat would keep incriminating evidence, conveniently right there in his fake knockoff WH desk, knowing he is under investigation. Please believe me when I say that I fully understand his breathtaking level of stupidity, but come on!! Not one of his slobbering sycophants has the IQ of a head of lettuce to warn the Orange Slug that would be a bit unwise?

[Quote]"...unannounced raid..."

Please accept our sincere apologies Mr (former - to be clear) President. We will endeavour to announce our raids in advance in future.

Oh, wait...

Is this another first for Trump? Has any other President’s home ever been raided by the FBI?

Well, I hope they took the security video minutes before they told Trumps secret service guys they were coming over. You just know Trump being informed of this raid he scrambled to hid documents.

Richmond right wing faggot John Reid is still throwing a fit on the radio this morning calling for civil war and posting shit like this on his official Facebook page:

[quote]After 6 years of completely fabricated lies DESIGNED to cripple and then destroy Trump…. NO- I don’t trust the DOJ and ”the resistance” at the FBI to be honest. Someone needs to explain why we should trust these people who have deliberately lied for years and who have aggressively attacked Trump while also ignoring clear criminal behavior from prominent Democrats.

who cares, r436?

I hope they took the love letters between him and Putin.

Well, R432, we don’t [italic] know [/italic] that the FBI found anything in the Orange Shitgibbon’s lair.

I too don’t underestimate his hubris and stupidity.

Still, to get a warrant, the FBI had to convince a USDistrict Court judge there was a high probability that evidence of stolen documents would be found, strongly suggests an inside source tipped them off (I wonder who?); or they intercepted his efforts to dispose of “something of value” from MAGA-Lardo

[quote]Is this another first for Trump? Has any other President’s home ever been raided by the FBI?

Are we being technical, R434?

Did they get the pee tapes? Milinia not going to be happy about that.

[quote]Trump took sensitive paperwork with him to Land o Lakes to sell to the highest bidder.

That would be so on brand for him it wouldn't even be surprising, but as R439 noted, I wonder *who* tipped them off.

This is absolutely delicious. No trying to piece together some elaborate conspiracy & put Trump in the middle of it - just very clear: he stole classified information with the intention to sell it and/or trade it for favorable terms to the Saudis, Russians & god knows who else.

R441- Forget pee tapes, does he have Epstein's tapes of some of the richest, most powerful men on this planet commiting pedophilia?

The only thing that every single one of those Repub senators is going to be known for is that they failed to indict Trump in both of his impeachment trials. Trump broke the law when he tried to go after Biden through Ukraine. It's the Republicans as much as the Dems going after Trump at this point. That comment Eric made about being stabbed in the back was very telling. The Dems wouldn't be considered to have stabbed him in the back, they are just doing their damn jobs. It's the Republicans who are now having to work to remove the filth. They are going after Trump and the whole family knows it.

It's being reported that they broke into his safe. This is more than about those boxes of documents he stole.

[quote]All of them should be shot on site.

Where should that be, R432? At Mar a Lago or another location?

That would truly be a sight to behold.

Consider Trump’s penchant for characterizing treasonous and illegal activity as extremely good or innocuous. His attempted blackmail-for-weapons extortion of Zelensky was, as he described it, “a perfect phone call.” (Ditto the eventually uncovered recording of his attempt to corrupt votes in Georgia.)

His use of superlatives has circled around to bite him in the ass, R423. He would never hide anything if he thought it was going to incriminate him.

Did Trump have some blackmail info inside that little safe of his?

Live in fear, Lindsey Graham.

You can see now why they haven't indicted Rudy yet. He was totally involved in this Ukraine crap.

The simple response to these crocodile tears:

"But her emails!"

In the morning light I am still hoping that this is something more than he just took some classified documents with him when he should not have.

Biden just won the biggest victory of his career and should be taking victory laps and he and prominent Democrats should spend these next two weeks working the news cycle and explaining all the wonderful things contained in the Inflation Reduction Act, with particular aim at-risk Congressional seats where that message can help.

Instead it seems that we have:

(a) Allowed Trump and his supporters to take over the news cycle (yet again) as FBI and Democrats can't really comment while Trump gets to bitch and moan and spread lies

(b) Energized the GOP base that was starting to slip from Trump's grip and feeling defeated once Manchin caved

(c) Created a scenario where independent voters may feel the FBI was being vindictive because taking some documents unrelated to Jan 6th or other prosecutable offenses is just not going to seem like that big a deal. Yes, it is illegal, but it seems relatively minor in the scheme of things, especially if there is no evidence he was trying to sell them, just wanted them as souvenirs

They will destroy each other. That thought makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I’m sorry R450 ?

Let’s take it down a notch.

Suppose you work for a government contractor that has top secret clearance. You quit and take several boxes of secret files with you (files that might jeopardize the security of the United States if they ever fell into the wrong hands).

The company contacts you (and your lawyers) desperately trying to get them back. You return some, but hold on to several Top Secret classified documents as “souvenirs.”

Orange Con grifting. Were information in classified documents being sold to foreign sources and crime syndicates in exchange for $$$$$$?

Feds we’re tipped-off.

Are all these Repug politicians projecting his they may be implicated in what is in those files. Insurrection, Russian money, child trafficking. Me thinks they are protesting too much. Either way I still hope this leads him to stroke out and live the rest of his fat life in misery.

No R453

They are being cynical realists and understand that they need to react that way to get Trump's base to vote for them

R442 , when the 15 boxes of were illegally removed from the white House and taken to Land o Lakes I called my ex bf and asked him what that was about. And he told me that it was Trump taking classified material with the intention of selling it to the highest bidder. Mind you he was trained by the Soviets to be a spy for a Central American country in a civil war in the 80's so he knows his shit.

R351, if the US gets rid of this constitution, the states write a new one and ratify a new one Most of US states are in the grip of MAGAT-fouled legislatures. What do you think would come out of that process that’s any better than what’s in place now? I think it would be infinitely worse.

Michael Cohen enjoying schadenfreude.

What classified material were they? Don't they know??

Isn't there a system installed where they know what went out and didn't come back like when you check out books at the library???

r458 Yes, Rose, they know exactly which classified documents Trump stole. The National Archives keeps track of them, just like your public library.

You know, the fucker took classified documents, boxes of documents to Mar A Lago ILLEGALLY. The National Archives was pissed. Then he has lawyers "NEGOTIATING" with the National Archives? He also claims he returned some stuff. But apparently the National Archives said fuck this. Were not negotiating with a fucking criminal and in addition there were a lot of documents missing from the stuff he allegedly returned. It was not up to him to have his lawyers and other going thru those documents and deciding what to return. None of it should have been taken in the first place. I'm hoping they find evidence he was selling classified intel to foreign governments or persons. I'm also hoping they find information pertinent to January 6th. He doesn't get to have special treatment on this with his fucking "negotiations."

Does anyone think that there were incriminating documents related to Jan. 6? Btw, to me, the most heinous thing would be that he was going to sell these documents to the highest bidder. Is he that stupid? Y/y?

Who was that person who went into some building and then he left, with papers stuffed inside his sock?

Anything happen to him?

I recall reading about this report years ago.

[quote]You just know Trump being informed of this raid he scrambled to hid documents.

He wasn’t there at the time.

Worth noting that it was a local Florida reporter who broke the story ahead of everybody else.

None of the national news outlets are giving him credit for breaking this.

My feeling is that these documents were serious shit. I think if they were stuff like love letters to Kim Jong Un, the DOJ would not have conducted this raid. Unless the love letter gave top secret info on where our nukes are hidden—THAT would be something we’d want back.

I'm with another poster above: why the need to have original docs? Doesn't anyone on his team know how to use a camera and hide things in the cloud?

I'm going with the theory that Donald tried selling classified docs to an FBI plant.

Yeah, R467, it seems like there was some trigger that got pulled recently.

The official account of a member of the United States House of Representitives:

What an outrage! Our baby cannot be without his daddy. It was a difficult birth. We both love our little Donnella Lindie so much!

R462 Sandy Berger, Clinton's National Security Advisor. That's the closest thing we have to something of this magnitude of someone higher up. I believe he had a 50 thousand fine, lost his law license and 100 hours of community service. But it is so major taking things from the national archive.

[quote] You know, the fucker took classified documents, boxes of documents to Mar A Lago ILLEGALLY. The National Archives was pissed. Then he has lawyers "NEGOTIATING" with the National Archives? He also claims he returned some stuff. But apparently the National Archives said fuck this. Were not negotiating with a fucking criminal and in addition there were a lot of documents missing from the stuff he allegedly returned. It was not up to him to have his lawyers and other going thru those documents and deciding what to return. None of it should have been taken in the first place. I'm hoping they find evidence he was selling classified intel to foreign governments or persons. I'm also hoping they find information pertinent to January 6th. He doesn't get to have special treatment on this with his fucking "negotiations."

Thanks R460. I was wondering what prompted this search since the National Archives already took about 10 boxes of documents from Mar-a-Lago, so they already have proof he took stuff he shouldn't have. Wasn't aware of any negotiations or missing documents.

R451- You really think these sleazy, amoral mafia thugs won't sing like little bitches and betray each other evidently? Wait and see. It's what they do. They are known for this.

Hope his arrest comes out like this. I could actually picture that fat fuck trying to escape out a window

someone said this raid is related to Jan 6

unless he took those docs because someone told him they wanted the info on paper and he said he could get it etc for X amount of money or whatever the deal was.

R351, you know nothing of the American Constitution. Stop embarrassing yourself.

"Republicans have called the raid “politicized” and vowed to investigate Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Justice Department if their party wins control of the House after the midterm elections."

I can't imagine that they'd really do this. Wouldn't what'd come out look even worse for the Repukes?

Judge who approved FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago once linked to Jeffrey Epstein

The Florida federal magistrate judge who signed off on a search warrant authorizing the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort left the local US Attorney’s office more than a decade ago to rep employees of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

Sources tell The Post that Judge Bruce Reinhart approved the warrant that enabled FBI agents to converge on the palatial South Florida estate on Monday in what Trump called an “unannounced raid on my home.”

Reinhart was elevated to magistrate judge in 2018 after 10 years in private practice.

Months after his appointment, the Miami Herald reported that he had represented several of Epstein’s employees in connection with the sex trafficking investigation against the financier.

According to the paper, Reinhard resigned from the South Florida US Attorney’s Office effective on New Year’s Day 2008 and went to work for Epstein’s workers the following day. In 12 years as a federal prosecutor, according to his official biography, Reinhart “managed adocket that covered the full spectrum of federal crimes, including narcotics, violent crimes, public corruption, financial frauds, child pornography and immigration.”

The Epstein employees Reinhart represented, by his own admission to the Herald, included Epstein’s pilots; his scheduler, Sarah Kellen; and Nadia Marcinkova, who Epstein once reportedly described as his “Yugoslavian sex slave.”

[quote]Judge who approved FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago once linked to Jeffrey Epstein

Good ol' New York Post, the mouthpiece of the Republicans.

The thing is the news media will be all over the "investigations" of Garland and company. This feeds these Republicans. They made Trump. Giving him prime time coverage at every campaign event

Let Repugs "be all over" any "investigation" of Garland or the FBI. I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind this raid will stand up under any investigation those clowns might have.

Agree R473.

My comment should have been directed to R449.

Um R479 hasn't Dump been linked to Epstein?

Besides, this judge worked for Epstein employees, not Epstein himself, though I'm sure every single MAGAt in the country right now already thinks the judge was in cahoots with Epstein and will say so for the next several years on any social media platform that they are not banned from.

[quote]Not one of his slobbering sycophants has the IQ of a head of lettuce to warn the Orange Slug that would be a bit unwise?

If they do have the IQ of a head of lettuce they will be sure to be fired, based on past patterns.

I wonder if that magistrate has an idea, based on his Defense past, what's in some of the stuff at Mar-a-Lago that DIDN'T come from the White House.

So, basically, the FBI acted on behalf of the government library and retrieved books that were overdue.

Trump thought he could keep them and not get into trouble, but now whines that bad people took stuff that didn't belong to him in the first place.

R477, he's about as intelligent and well-informed on the Constitution as mouth-breather Prince Harry, who said last year that our First Amendment was "bonkers." Such blatant ignorance is comical.

Yeah, R484. Trump is coked out of his mind in this one

R487, stealing classified national security information is not only illegal, it might interfere with the operation of the current administration.

R489, you can also see Jizz Lane leering in the background in that video.

I hope they found his blackmail stash and leads to many Repig arrests.

Would be great if compromising photos of Miss Lindsey were found in Trump's safe.

From Brynn Tannenhill on twitter

My understanding is that much of the material found there earlier was classified at the highest levels. Special Access Program / Trigraph level stuff that only a few people get read in to. There's a special court system just for this

The fact that MAGA world is freaking out over this is sad and scary at the same time. There was obviously a crime committed here: namely 15 boxes of boxes of deliberately mishandled materials. This goes WAY beyond someone having a private server.

The idea of Trump claiming he had no idea that his "souvenirs" were classified won't wash. It was reported that the cover sheets were still attached to some documents.

Nuclear placements. Codes. Armed Forces contingency plans. Intelligence on foreign sources and suspected spies. Logs on armaments in stockpile. Blueprints of high tech weapons. Listings of intelligence staff from multiple agencies. Budget revelations. Collected data from abroad. Data on terrorists groups, domestic & foreign.

There is so much that is susceptible.

That cunt sold our country out to the highest bidders. To the third world dictators. I hate him more everyday.

Trump jumped the shark a long time ago. He's disposable. As for the people with AR-15s, they've always got some lame excuse to go postal.

Will the people who keep using the directive "Rose" in their answers to other's questions, please learn how to use it properly. It hasn't been done once in this thread.

What worries me is, can't Trump as then- president say he could declassify anything he wanted? And then argue he took whatever documents home because he lowered their importance. This is a slippery fucker we're dealing with here

The GOP establishment in Congress and the Party will support Trump for the simple fact that there is serious dirt on all of them and he has it and will use it. It goes beyond votes and maintaining office. I say let them rile the magas up, there will be much sound and fury, there may be pockets of violence, even more widespread. I say let it rip. It won't be another Jan 6, with Biden and the federal government, law enforcement and National Guard sitting watching tv.

Better yet, just leave off altogether. It's not amusing anymore.

[quote]The idea of Trump claiming he had no idea that his "souvenirs" were classified won't wash.

If he really believed that, surely that's an undeniable case for invoking Section 25? (In this case, to argue he is ineligible to stand again because S25 would have to be invoked if he were successful, on the grounds that by his own admission he can't tell classified papers and papers that have to go to the Archives from those he can take home in his lunch box.)

And they got into his personal safe!

We have a tyrant trying to regain power and that's what worries you R499? Estas bien pendeja!

R500, if he declassified all of them, there would be a record of what he had done while he was in office. He can’t simply say, I forgot to mention it, but all of this stuff is declassified.

Oh, but he’ll try that, R506!

"And then argue he took whatever documents home because he lowered their importance."

R500, he can't argue he kept documents that weren't important--why take them at all, then? Regardless of whether they're "important" or not, none of th documents are his to keep.

I hope they find the actual tape and transcript of the Zelensky call that kicked off Impeachment #1. Would be fun to see that confirmed for what it is. Plus, evidence that we was funnelling information to Lavrov/Putin. Then execute him for treason on a very special live episode of the Apprentice.

[quote] What worries me is, can't Trump as then- president say he could declassify anything he wanted? And then argue he took whatever documents home because he lowered their importance.

I’m not sure tRump can just wave his hand and say “I declassify those boxes of documents.” And he would have to have accomplished the declassification before noon on 1/20/21, which probably didn’t happen.

He needs to go to jail for this. He cannot get away with this!

Nothing happened to Hillary with the emails or laptops or servers etc....

Of course this cunt is gonna do shit like this coz he thinks they ain't got the balls to go after Hillary, they ain't doing nothing with him.

I don't wish ill health on anyone but if he died tomorrow of a heart attack, I wouldn't shed a tear.

There is no reason to take 15 boxes of classified papers to Mar-a-Lago unless he was criminally planning to sell information therein.

One can suspect “Pootin” already knows the content and has copies. “Pootin” may have had a hand in “ordering” the boxes to be brought to Mar-a-Lago. Some material may have been “sold” to other countries, adversaries, or international trafficking individuals and groups. Arms dealers may be clients,

U.S. intelligence suspected what was happening and injected agents into Trump’s transactional schemes.

R496, is that your own list? or is there a published list of what docs are missing?

There is no way he is selling them HIMSELF. he's doing it through other people. probably his crooked son in law Jared, whose dad is mosad informat/agent. Maybe those docs are for Israel.

then the cunt's response will be, they are our allies, our friends!

Eric “Date Rape” Trump’s going around saying the safe was empty.

Donald, it's never too late to pull an Anne Heche and off yourself!

We knew he had taken documents with him 18+ months ago. Why did they wait so long if these were such top-secret documents?

Agree.

My guess is that among the Top Secret “souvenirs” Trump took with him to Mar-A-Lago were video files found pursuant to the Jeffrey Epstein search warrant.

R517 The DOJ has been trying to negotiate with Trump's legal team to get the documents back. Trump hasn't complied, and the DOJ had strong reason to believe he never would. Thus, the warrant.

How many diaper changes did Hope Hicks have to make after he was raided? And who cleans up the ketchup on the walls down at Maga-Lardo?

And if the Safe is empty, it’s because some of what he stole has already been sold.

[quote] We knew he had taken documents with him 18+ months ago. Why did they wait so long if these were such top-secret documents?

There was something on CNN last night when the story was breaking as to how DOJ/FBI avoid doing anything that can be interpreted as political in the 60-90 days leading up to the elections. Now, subtract 90 days from an early November date. If that's the case, they waited until (literally) the very last moment.

The whole place is in the shape of a giant toilet:

Being gay, R514 has some of the most stylish tin hats in the QAnon chat group

He is always showing them off

On days he is not brunching with the aliens, that is

If there wasn’t a strong feeling Trump was going to share this highly classiyinfo with a third party, I don’t think they would have raided.

Also, I hope DJT still runs for president just to keep the GOP in disarray. Desantis is more scary imho because many rethugs think he’s “normal” compared to Trump.

they are no longer "top secret"

[quote]What worries me is, can't Trump as then- president say he could declassify anything he wanted? And then argue he took whatever documents home because he lowered their importance. This is a slippery fucker we're dealing with here

No. There's no "slippery slope." Certain broad classes of information related to sensitive matters are presumptive for classification. Determining that something within such a group of records is not classified is usually not done except by specific request which must be reviewed if prior to their routine release schedule (5 years, 25 years, 50, 75...) and the documents reviewed by court order to release something incorrectly classified. It's a complicated process, seen in shorthand version in FOIA requests for FBI files on, say, Frank Sinatra.

Beyond national security issues, the National Archives has very clear guidelines for preserving every fucking thing in all formats. There are records maintenance people at all levels of the Executive Office charged with ensuring compliance with preserving fucking everything.

That is why Hillary Clinton and her private email server was a serious matter, because it introduced the possibility of selection - cherry picking what to preserve and what not. Granted I never thought Clinton was being malacious in her email affairs, but the fact of her laziness, incautious disregard of security interests, and brassy "we will fi it our way" disregard for what are simple requirements for keepings records: keep fucking everything, delete nothing, throw nothing seat, and let Archives do what they will with it. Clinton, forever quick to outline the importance of Watergate in shaping her career and her respect of protocols should never have let her private server crisis happen. She knew better, she just couldn't be bothered with the pesky details.

Trump, however, is an entirely different kettle of fish. Sloppiness plays the least role; it's blatant to theft, ,"editing" of his official record and covering his misdeeds, and a fundamental contempt for any level of process.

Trump flew in Epstein’s plane and partied with him. The Republicans never flesh out their feeble distractions.

And among all their “outrage” they never acknowledge that If he committed a crime, then there are consequences. They view everything as a personal attack, but I don’t think their audience cares anymore. Trump is a fat crook and the public across all parties know this.

He should be hung for treason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R529 I'm fine with that. But it's "hanged."

Oh, please, r527. She was told to do it by Colin Powell, who also did it.

[quote]Colin Powell, who also did it

So did Condoleeza.

[quote]The GOP establishment in Congress and the Party will support Trump for the simple fact that there is serious dirt on all of them and he has it and will use it.

Not if they can discredit him, which I believe they're trying to do. Once he's discredited and loses most of his fanbase, he could reveal almost anything and it'll get shrugged off.

The other option for them is to offer him a get out of jail free card, as long as he keeps his mouth shut. If they scare him enough, he'll do it.

r517, he fought it in the courts. It was just last January that SCOTUS said he couldn't keep the remaining 5 boxes of files that he wanted. He said he had executive privilege and could keep them if he wanted, and SCOTUS reiterated that no, executive privilege isn't given to a person, it's given to the current office of the POTUS. They'd previously ruled that back during Watergate when Nixon was suing to keep documentation he had away from the archives, and they ruled against him, too.

So Trump had been told in January that he lost his case, and still held on to all this paperwork. I cannot understand why he held on to it, exposing himself to an FBI raid like this that could incriminate him even more.

R534, good, it makes it worse for him. I hope they jail him. He thinks, they won't put a former president in jail etc so he does whatever the fuck he wants. A message needs to be sent!

Link to part 2--this one is so slow.

These ppl are way out of their league.

Up shit creek without a paddle.

The GOP is fed up with Trump and his grifting ways, siphoning all the donations for himself and not sharing with them while holding his hand out for the GOP to give him more money to win "for them". That is why they prefer someone like DeSantis, who is a team player.

All they need is some sign that he truly lost the Deplorable demographic.

To be honest, I thought that by now, Fox would use the 06/01/2021 hearings to put the Deplorables off of Trump and push DeSantis as the news Deplorable leader.

Have the Republicans stopped their screaming while their hands are on their waists?

tRump is not going to let go willingly or quietly. He never has. He’s going to fight everyone and anyone, raising all sorts of hell in the process.

And remember the very prophetic words of La Senatrice in May 2016:

[quote] "If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed ... and we will deserve it."

Isn’t the question how long they hold on to a sinking ship? They need to break up with him.

Now let's take a look at those taxes...

He got Cawthorned.

How would abolishing the US Constitution prevent the rise of future Trumps? How is the Constitution responsible for the rise of Trump? Come on wise-ass, spill.

Don’t encourage him, r545. He’s probably had multiple bowel movements already.

Fox reporting that many House Repubs are meeting with Trump this evening at Bedminster.

Where's loud-mouth Junior these days? It seems Eric has taken the lead recently. He was the spokesman re Ivana's death and funeral, now he's making the rounds to condemn the FBI raid.

[quote]He’s probably had multiple bowel movements already.

I suspect he's never had one in his life.

[quote] Fox reporting that many House Repubs are meeting with Trump this evening at Bedminster.

Probably trying to find out if the kompromat on them was in those 15 boxes.

[quote] Where's loud-mouth Junior these days?

Do you even need to ask? He and his special lady are lying face down somewhere in the pool of their own sick.

Andrew Cuomo doesn't like this.

Cuomo is about to go full MAGA just like all once successful straight white males who have been ruined by #metoo do. Nothing to see here.

R551 Says something about how ineffective and self-destructive #metoo has been.

Cuomo isn't going full MAGA. The DOJ will sit on this for months. He wants the reason to come out because he knows it's bad news for Trump. It's not a good idea but he's not MAGA at all.

Sure R552.

Cuomo seems to be concerned that politicizing the DOJ will put prosecutions related to January 6th at risk.

So the House Republicans are running to lick Trump’s ass? What about asking him what crimes he may have committed?

R554 The Left creates the Right. #metoo failed.

[quote] [R554] The Left creates the Right. #metoo failed.

The FBI has Trump dead to rights on treason. How this is bad for Democrats.

R555, he’s wrong here. It would be political to make a statement. Remember Comey?

This better not just be about having some classified or recently declassified docs in his home.

It was said somewhere (CNN?) that some of the documents recovered are so sensitive that they cannot, in good conscience, publicly reveal their content. Yeah, you take that home by mistake... Sure, Jan.

Do you serious believe that presidents pack up their own stuff when they vacate the WH?

R562, did you get that talking point from 4chan?

[quote] Do you serious believe that presidents pack up their own stuff when they vacate the WH?

Do you seriously believe highly classified documents were just lying around and got picked up by movers by accident?

Cuomo is right. The longer the DOJ keeps silent the more Republicans get to control the narrative.

[quote] The longer the DOJ keeps silent the more Republicans get to control the narrative.

Yeah! It's been nearly a day!

What I dont understand is do these LITERAL traitors not know they are traitors? Please tell.me its not that they do and just dont care.

DOJ is not hurricane relief. They are conducting a criminal investigation. Sane as always. They don’t need to do press conferences until there is an indictment.

Not only do the Republicans get to control the narrative---they get to drown out the narrative about how awesome the Inflation Recovery Act (FKA as "Build Back Better") is

r560 r562 You drooling idiot, Trump stole highly classified documents involving national security and then ignored multiple requests to return them. The search warrant is completely justified.

Yup, r549…and to Cuomo’s other point, if it’s just a matter of not returning documents to the National Archive then it’s going to lead to some disappointed democrats. The buildup will have been greater than reality and Republicans will run with the persecution narrative.

R570, you’re probably the only one here who hasn’t blocked retards R560 and R562.

"The GOP is fed up with Trump and his grifting ways"

Then why, R539, is the GOP rallying behind him over this raid?

I cannot believe some people are still supporting orange cunt

I REALLY hate every member of The Five. They just ran clips from CNN and MSNBC claiming the radical Left communists are gleefully enjoying this. Also? Can somebody check Pirro's coffee mug.

Don't worry your pretty, little head, r571.

[quote] "The GOP is fed up with Trump and his grifting ways"

If so, they have an odd way of showing it.

Don’t worry, I won’t you ignorant asshole, r577.

Sure R557

Risky business, it better be rock solid. I don't like it.

According to the WSJ he returned 15 boxes in February and the FBI retrieved another 10 boxes yesterday. He really thought these documents belonged to him and he was not willing to give them up voluntarily. Damn, I hope he sold some of these documents to Saudi Arabia or other foreign countries and they will get him for treason or espionage.

[quote] did you get that talking point from 4chan?

You moron, I used this same explanation for Hillary. And IIRC for Bill. Still a Hillary lover. Nothing will change that for me.

Your conspiracy tendencies are a red flag. See your shrink.

Hmm. Just imagine the outrage if Obama stole WH documents and refused to return them. They would go ballistic and demand he be in jail. I really can’t take their faux outrage seriously.

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[quote]They would go ballistic and demand he be in jail.

They would want him lynched. Of course, they already do.

This incident only reminds me what a "punk", "pussy", "wimp", New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg is! While it is possible that Bragg is "pulling a Chuck Schumer" (although I doubt it. He probably had dinner with Trump last night) where are the balls of these men? The women are out for the head of Trump and will still bring home the bacon to fry it up in a pan.

New York Attorney General, Letitia James, is chalking up win after win with her takedown of Trump and the Trumps

The District Attorney for Georgia's Fulton County, Fani Willis ain't havin' it! You will testify or be jailed. It's your choice.

Then there's Liz Cheney. The J-6 Committee that is now referred to as; "Liz Cheney's J-6 Committee"

The women are KICKING ASS and taking no prisoners! Where are the "men"? We FINALLY got a reluctant Merrick Garland to breathe and everyone is jumping for joy?

[quote]According to the WSJ he returned 15 boxes in February and the FBI retrieved another 10 boxes yesterday. He really thought these documents belonged to him and he was not willing to give them up voluntarily. Damn, I hope he sold some of these documents to Saudi Arabia or other foreign countries and they will get him for treason or espionage.

Trump thought no such thing. He has a HUGE loan repayment coming up in the next year or two. He took documents that are valuable and that he knew he could sell that would get him the money to pay the loan payment.

Michael Cohen -

Knock, Knock

Who's there?

The fucking FBI is who's there!

I wonder if this is connected somehow to Pelosi's weird trip to Taiwan.

No, R590 - It's connected to Merrick Garland's trip to Ukraine.

Why didn’t the DOJ take the boxes when they were in My Log Oh in June?

R591, so true. The Ukrainians, despite being broke and fighting an invasion, sent a special forces team to Mar-A-Lago to plant top secret documents in a storage locker. Then they suggested to U.S. Attorney General that he should read up on U.S. law and then raid Mar-A-Lago . . . Or was it the dead president of Venezuela who suggested it . . .

I pray they find enough dirt to block Rump from running again. Is he stupid enough to hide info at Mag-A_Lardo? We'll see. Of course the bitch used the raid as a fund raiser. P.o.s..

Heaven doesn't want his ass and hell's afraid he'll take over.

Wouldn’t it be funny if they start ripping open boxes, and find they’re full of McDonald’s hamberder wrappers? #notsosecretshame

Mary asks where’s Jared?

I'll be glad when Mary Trump is gone.

Safe probably had old video tapes of snuffed, endangered animals and porn.

Here we are at the end: it just occurred to me that Donnie Boy has NO DOUBT been amassing compromising dirt on any and all that he possibly could, and probably for decades. He MUST have to keep all this delicious filth in one central location in order to hope to be able to keep track of it. So, isn't it likely to have ALL been in that safe he's complaining about? I think it's likely.

Michael Cohen would be a guilty pleasure fuck.

Trump's Secret Service got a 45 minute heads up from the FBI. Eric was informed right away and called Daddy Trump long before they actually arrived. It was not a surprise to Trump by the time it happened. Plenty of time to hide things.

Empty safe? Sure Jan.