Was 1993's "Mrs. Doubtfire" family entertainment or an adult film?

It was practically pornographic!

It was saccharine garbage then and it still is!

It was about a lazy, ungrateful man who aided and abetted by two gay men imitated a woman to access a household with women and girls. A safeguarding nightmare and not funny anyway.

The Bridges sequence is painfully suspenseful. My delicate eight year old self couldn’t handle nail biting tension.

[quote] It was about a lazy, ungrateful man who aided and abetted by two gay men imitated a woman to access a household with women and girls. A safeguarding nightmare and not funny anyway. —Brigitte-Lechner

Literal Rape!

I remember it as a very popular family film, although there were those people who decried it as vulgar and anti-American values even then.

As a gayling, and budding theatre artist, this was my favorite scene. Ve Neill fully deserved that Oscar.

Recently revisited it. It's ok.

What I'd really like to see is the purported R, NC, and NC-17 cuts. Apparently Robin Williams was given free reign to improvise and came up with some dirty stuff that's never been seen.

Like smacking Mara Wilson in the face with a pineapple.

It's the best movie he made.

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“It was a drive-by fruiting”

This movie is so dumb, I love it to pieces.

It should've been a horror movie for adults.

Robin as Barbra was the highlight of the film:

This is what I loved about family films from back in the day. They dealt with a lot of adult themes that weren't vulgar or inappropriate, but would go over kid's heads while giving the adults in the audience something to relate to and sink their teeth into. It's always interesting watching one of these movies as an adult and seeing how you feel about the story and characters from that perspective.

9 to 5 and Tootsie were like that, too. Kids enjoyed the slapstick or sillier moments and the adults could enjoy both those moments and the most sophisticated and nuanced portions.

Sorry for double posting that clip, R6. I must've started writing my response about the time you hit the "post" button on yours.

It is a funny film and yes some of the context is disturbing, like how Sally Fields would be so stupid to allow someone who has duped her to have access to her kids.

Sally fields was groomed. Good knows what Mrs D could have done to those poor kiddies

It's too bad they nearly cut all of Polly Holliday's scenes out. She had significantly more screentime in the original.

R16. Of course, even a yahoo would know it’s Sally Field, not “fields.”

Imagine a news story about a man who'd been arrested for impersonating an old lady so he could see his estranged kids. lol

Please don't be stupid, OP.

We have enough stupid people here already.

If these threads didn't exist, we wouldn't be talking about the trans in the DL.

It's the anti-trans loons who keep this subject alive.

Yet, I'm the one with all the haters.

Makes so much sense.

Hate can be multifaceted, Cinesnatch.

🤷

I think OP is making fun of the anti-transers, Snatchie.

Little known fact, r17, the film was edited by Linda Lavin

lol, R23, you're right. I stand corrected. I jumped the gun. I can certainly be hot-headed.

But, R22, the hate I get in the DL is disproportionate to the anti-trans loons getting called out. IMO. Perhaps the regular DL'er just ignores those freaks/threads.

I've been better lately when it comes to ignoring/not commenting. But, honestly, I've put so many of these asshole on Ignore. Why do these threads keep coming (obviously not this one).

(I've managed to block all of the Royals threads, though)

My god. This trans troll is the MOST insufferable human being to ever be on DL.

R25, you're being targeted by one particular troll who uses sockpuppets, and she targets several other individuals, too. Some of the other anti-transers have joined in recently. I don't think they're all her accounts, I think they're just following her lead. They have a little list of three or four names that they always attack.

The best way to get rid of them is to change accounts every so often. I would wager that you could shake some of them off by just not signing your name, even if you keep using the same account.

Don't we already have another 1,593,375 threads on the trans thing?

Anyway, I grew up with this movie and loved it as a kid. Robin Williams was so entertaining to me, he lights up the screen. I recently caught it on On Demand and almost found myself sobbing at the end. In retrospect it's not just a zany family comedy but also a surprisingly heavy drama about divorce. The courtroom scenes are heartbreaking, especially when he says he can't live without them and that his kids are like oxygen to him. Sally Field does a great job at showing how guilty she feels, and how painful it is to be ripping them away from him, but you know it's the right choice - she doesn't hate Daniel but he is not a stable father.

There's that ending too, when the kids hear her voice and think she's returned to the house and they get all excited, only to see it's the TV making the noise, Mrs Doubtfire now has her own childrens show. And later she (Robin, in character) delivers the most beautiful monologue about divorce, on a level that children can understand. It's schmaltzy but this movie probably helped so many kids from broken homes come to terms with it. Pierce Brosnan was brilliant casting, I love the hit and run fruiting, and when Mrs Doubtfire says she saw Brosnan's competition in Sally Field's draw (her dildo), and is surprised she hasn't chipped a tooth on the thing. LOL. You all need to lighten up. This movie is magic.

It’s a great film, R28.

This anti-trans, anti-drag brigade are overwhelmingly tedious, and they making DL a crappy place to visit.

One has to scroll through literally hundreds of trans post and drag queen stuff, just because a select number of people have nothing better to do with their lives, than to harass strangers they will never even meet or share a meal with.

Now they’re targeting beloved films, and guess what? No one’s going to cancel Robin Fucking Williams or Mrs. Doubtfire, just like no one’s going to cancel Julie Andrew’s and Victor/Victoria.

These people seek to wipe out all fun and creativity, even if hasn’t anything to do with their obsession over trans.

Just sick freaking people who experience very little joy and get off on trolling others and shitting on everyone’s day.

I’ll take the bait.

Of course Mrs. Doubtfire was a family film (with adult humor). Crossdressing was often (and still can be) seen as humorous family friendly entertainment, because it was a PG joke and we’re in on it.

Drag club acts, though, are not family friendly and are meant for drunk gay men (and women). A pageant is different.

Unlike the transtapo, middle America can see context and nuance in how genderbending is put out in various media.

As a kid, I felt disappointed by the ending and now I love it. At the time, you really expected that the whole thing would bring Robin Williams and Sally Field together again a la The Parent Trap. Confronting the reality of divorce and how it’s almost always permanent made for a bittersweet, less happy ending but a more honest one.

I actually remember a film critic (I thought it was Roger Ebert, but I rewatched the At the Movies episode and he doesn't say it) mentioning how refreshing it was for the movie to go the less predictable/more realistic route by not having the parents get back together (as opposed to previous like films which would have reunited the parents).

Hey Snatchie r32, I owe you a huge apology. I said the OP was making fun of the anti-transers, but after reading his posts on this thread about the veteran's funding bill that got shot down, I see you were 100% right. OP has posted a bunch of threads about trans where he's "just asking questions," and a whole lot of comments about how Republicans are right about some things and we stupid liberal gays have "Trump Derangement Syndrome." I was wrong and you were right!

The ending was so bittersweet and lovely. I always respect a big, mainstream family film for not going the obvious route and have Williams and Field get back together. It was so obvious that they weren't meant for each other, but got some great kids out of their partnership. I knew a lot of kids who this film spoke to.

There's a really heartbreaking deleted scene and I can understand why it was deleted, but if it had stayed in, I think Williams might have been an Oscar contender. It's beautifully done.

[quote] Literal Rape!

You calling it literal rape is literal violence!

Hi R33. I can see how you thought it was satire. The internet can certainly flatten tone/intention.

Thanks for the head's up! :)

Sally Field’s character was such a FRAU in this movie.

It was a movie for fraus!

Adult film.

[Quote] 9 to 5 and Tootsie were like that, too. Kids enjoyed the slapstick or sillier moments and the adults could enjoy both those moments and the most sophisticated and nuanced portions.

I watched 9 to 5 alot as a kid and the s&m joke always went over my head.

r36 This thread was inspired by someone suggsting looney toons which featured drag and Robin Williams works, I'm assuming Mrs. Doubtfire, were meant for adults.

r33 Yes, I must be part of the other side. It's rather like the terfs, isn't it? No real separation between the terfs & the tras in that light.

r33 And as far as the tds remark goes... you have to be able to separate the wheat from the chafe.

On sites that are more right leaning, I'm as much of a spastic pest. Though I frequently get banned from those.

It is TDS if you were more obsessed about Trump having two scoops of ice cream as much as media was than you were about what he actually was doing in office. And yes, liberals are stupid when it comes to that.

If you're unable to differentiate between the various factions among the right and just blanket it all as evil because it's the right. . . you're really not making your case.

As far as the bill being wrong, 300 billion over ten years. Do you think the VA system provides quality care as is? And if not, do you think throwing more money at it is helpful without providing massive reforms the current system in place?

[quote]On sites that are more right leaning ... Though I frequently get banned from those.

A DLer after my own heart.

[quote]Sally Field’s character was such a FRAU in this movie.

Please, she was getting the Pierce Brosnan dick.

R44- NO woman 👩 was getting Pierce Brosnan’s Penis because he’s a

HOMOSEXUAL

Op are you insane ? Or posting from an asylum ?

"Sally Field’s character was such a FRAU in this movie."

Well, she was a fortyish straight woman who had an irresponsible spouse and kids, it's totally believable that a woman who was once cute and fun would go full-on frau at this stage in her life.

What isn't believable is that a Pierce Brosnan would still be interested in this woman, after she'd passed forty, had kids, and turned full-on frau.

Miranda was a an attractive middled-aged corporate executive living in Pacific Heights.

Stu was also written as middle-age former flame divorcee (did he have a job?) and was originally supposed to be played by Tim Allen.

It was believable (in the real world). Money often compensates for physical beauty disparities (if you believe Brosnan was out of Field's league).

It's perfect for a family film, in that there's laughs that can be appreciated by anyone to talk, and a serious look at how marriages fall apart for the adults. That's the thing about Daniel and Miranda, neither is a bad person at all, but they're totally wrong for each other and are bringing out the worst in each other. Because Daniel is spontaneous and kind of irresponsible Miranda is put in the position of always being the responsible one, the one who has to tell him to stop, and that's made her into a frau and a buzzkill. And because he's living with a buzzkilling frau, Daniel has reacted by becoming more childish than he'd be on his own.

So yeah, people who've been living with an irresponsible and immature partner can really blossom when they get into a relationship with a real grownup, and you know... One of the most realistic things about the movie is that they didn't match Daniel with someone else. I mean he's hilarious and likable, but hardly anyone could put up with him long-term.